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Title: fuel addative question
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/10/18, 01:27:30 PM
Ok fellers wit all the smarts. got a question fer ya. so i be headed up do really gonna be frigid cold northern minnesoda this weekend. i always say an ounce of prevention so.......................in your opinion would it be wise to put some seafoan and isopropal accohol (heet) in the gas right away when i get up there to prevent fuel issues. i use non oxy gas in mine!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/10/18, 01:32:42 PM
DON'T USE HEET! NO NO NO!!! Alcohol ATTRACTS water! Seafoam and even more so, Startron will take care of water in the gas....get a bottle of Startron at Flat Farm or any auto parts store! Just a capful is good!!


http://www.starbrite.com/item/star-tron-gasoline-additive?category_id=586
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/10/18, 01:53:52 PM
DON'T USE HEET! NO NO NO!!! Alcohol ATTRACTS water! Seafoam and even more so, Startron will take care of water in the gas....get a bottle of Startron at Flat Farm or any auto parts store! Just a capful is good!!


http://www.starbrite.com/item/star-tron-gasoline-additive?category_id=586
OKAY ROKEY!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks for da info.
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/10/18, 02:12:14 PM
DON'T USE HEET! NO NO NO!!! Alcohol ATTRACTS water! Seafoam and even more so, Startron will take care of water in the gas....get a bottle of Startron at Flat Farm or any auto parts store! Just a capful is good!!


http://www.starbrite.com/item/star-tron-gasoline-additive?category_id=586
so Reb, you saying i should use the heet i have to start a fire?????????? i usuatty burn all our newspaper and burnables in the firering up there anyway!!!!!!
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/10/18, 02:14:38 PM
Since it's alcohol, mix it with cinnamon and whiskey, and feed it to Boar. Fireball II.  :rotflmao:

Or run it in yer top-fuel dragster.  :cool:
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/10/18, 02:19:13 PM
Since it's alcohol, mix it with cinnamon and whiskey, and feed it to Boar. Fireball II.  :rotflmao:

Or run it in yer top-fuel dragster.  :cool:
:laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: I like the feeding it to Boar idea, he wouldn't know!! :sleazy:
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Leech~~ on January 01/10/18, 05:03:04 PM
DON'T USE HEET! NO NO NO!!! Alcohol ATTRACTS water! Seafoam and even more so, Startron will take care of water in the gas....get a bottle of Startron at Flat Farm or any auto parts store! Just a capful is good!!


http://www.starbrite.com/item/star-tron-gasoline-additive?category_id=586

Oh so Star Bright the "boat hull" cleaner company makes a better product then HEET that has been around since, like ever!   :scratch:   :coffee:
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/10/18, 05:18:35 PM
That's correct. They work in totally different ways. Go read up on it.
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Leech~~ on January 01/10/18, 05:20:40 PM
That's correct. They work in totally different ways. Go read up on it.

I did, it said: Wipe off before Harding!   :rotflmao:
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/10/18, 05:29:29 PM
Perhaps if you properly adjust the crystal on yer cat-whisker radio, there's a chance you can pick up and hear the Philharmonic from Uranus.   :shocked: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: mike89 on January 01/10/18, 06:59:27 PM
That's correct. They work in totally different ways. Go read up on it.

I did, it said: Wipe off before Harding!   :rotflmao:

he's dead......  and to old for the product!!!  dat stuff does work........
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/10/18, 07:29:23 PM
REb lied to me!!!!!!!! :confused: :confused: he said ALL auto parts have it???????? :scratch: :scratch: wellt he Reilly's in town didn't. day looked on da puter though and said they do sell it. :scratch: i get to pick it up tomorrow!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: mike89 on January 01/10/18, 07:31:37 PM
you get it at least!!!
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Gunner55 on January 01/11/18, 07:37:46 AM
We use Seafoam a lot but also have a some of the Starbrite additive here as well. Pretty spendy but it doesn't take very much, we mostly use it on equipment that might set a little longer.
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: mike89 on January 01/11/18, 07:39:34 AM
We use Seafoam a lot but also have a some of the Starbrite additive here as well. Pretty spendy but it doesn't take very much, we mostly use it on equipment that might set a little longer.


same here....
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Northerndave on January 01/11/18, 09:22:57 AM
glen, what are you using the non ox in? Your truck? sled? wheeler? auger? generator?



Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/11/18, 09:26:23 AM
glen, what are you using the non ox in? Your truck? sled? wheeler? auger? generator?
my wheeler and auger. actually i use the non oxy fuel in all my small engines, chainsaw, lawnmower, snow blower........................essentially everything cept my vehicles!!!!!! and i'm converting everything over to synthetic oil also!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Northerndave on January 01/11/18, 09:46:39 AM
Ok.

Here's my small engine and related fuel advice.

non ox is a good idea, helps keep the varnish and green crap out of your carbs while the equipment is stored for extended periods of time. Here's the downside, it is my personal opinion that non ox is more likely to have water contamination at the filling stations because it doesn't sell as quickly as regular fuels. Regular fuel is garbage, it ruins soft lines, seals, it gums in storage scenarios, I hate it. But.... it's full of alcohol, so if there is some moisture in it, it doesn't ice up because the alcohol blends with the water and it simply passes rather than turning to an ice bead or ice crystal blockage.
  When you run non ox in the severe cold, you put yourself back about 30 years, back in the old days of carrying "heet" to dissipate moisture.

If a bottle of heet is something you already have, I say go ahead and use it in your non ox fuel toys. For things like 2 stroke augers and chainsaws, I actually recommend the qt bottled pre mixed fuels such as the tru fuel brand.

In extreme cold, if you know you are going to burn some fuel with some fairly predictable run time I think regular fuel is just fine. Burn it up and refill the tank with non ox and make sure to run it through the carb really good before putting away for extended storage periods.

By the way, are you watching this weather? you sure you want to come up here this weekend? We are expecting -30 tonight up by lake of the woods, -27 friday night, -20 or so for sat-sunday nights, -24 monday night... besides being dangerously cold, that's a serious extended cool down. You know what that usually does to the fishing right? 
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/11/18, 10:09:42 AM
yea Dave i am following the weather closely. we will be mostly spearing. we should see fish as ive fished the cabin lake for 45 plus years. spearing doesnt require a bite, just curiosity. i left ALL my fishing stuff up there so i need to get it home. i'm not a fan of going up there when its this cold but the friend who's going with works such a screwy schedule, weekends are hard to fit in, he also left some stuff up there cause we planned on being there new years weekend. that didnt happen.

depending on how things shake out we my try for crappies one afternoon!

i'm also planning on putting the wheelers inside the sheds at nite with a trickle charger on them, hopefully that will "encourage" them to start easier in the morning!!!!!
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Northerndave on January 01/11/18, 10:25:15 AM
Sounds like a helluva plan!

Best of luck! Spearing would be fun and you mentioned a cabin which would be way better that sleeping on the ice in this weather, lol!
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/11/18, 10:52:38 AM
Sounds like a helluva plan!

Best of luck! Spearing would be fun and you mentioned a cabin which would be way better that sleeping on the ice in this weather, lol!
thanks..............and yea the cabin is great.....once its warm!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao:
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Gunner55 on January 01/11/18, 01:15:06 PM
Took 6-7 hrs yday for us yday & that was with it being in the mid 30's when we arrived. Thermostat was at 50 too.
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: mike89 on January 01/11/18, 02:48:12 PM
well then gunner you have chase momma around and that would have warmed ya up!!!!
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Bobberineyes on January 01/11/18, 06:00:00 PM
Great advise northerdave. I mix and go, run my 2 cycles tgen fill again,(Non oxy) when it comes to storage it's ran dry, although I've never used a bottle of heet in anything in my life. Good luck fishing Glenn , I mean spearing.. just not sure how your gonna spear crappies.. :rotflmao:
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/11/18, 06:38:14 PM
Great advise northerdave. I mix and go, run my 2 cycles tgen fill again,(Non oxy) when it comes to storage it's ran dry, although I've never used a bottle of heet in anything in my life. Good luck fishing Glenn , I mean spearing.. just not sure how your gonna spear crappies.. :rotflmao:
:smoking: :rotflmao: you need to be good............. just like the ba............ah never mind!!! :moon:

thanks.....we shall use a rod and some minners for da crappies!!!!!!!!!

personally i don't like the heet either, kinda like the starting fluid which i think is a no-no but i was in desperation mode when i bought the heet. i picked up a jug to da stuff reb recommended, that and the stabil will be going in the wheelers and auger before they even get started tomorrow!!!
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/11/18, 07:21:30 PM
You use what ya want; I go with the stuff I've TESTED, worked with, and seen tested and proven. To each his own, whatever work for ya. Like Yamaha used to say, different strokes for different folks.


http://www.amsnow.com/reviews/product-reviews/2016/06/star-tron-enzyme-fuel-treatment
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/11/18, 07:23:58 PM
You use what ya want; I go with the stuff I've TESTED, and seen tested and proven. To each his own.


http://www.amsnow.com/reviews/product-reviews/2016/06/star-tron-enzyme-fuel-treatment
:pouty: :pouty: I said I picked up the stuff you recommended, sheez! I see I said stability, meant Seafoam!! :censored: :doah:
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/11/18, 07:25:42 PM
Ya, I know ya did. Don't get bent. Didn't mean it that way. Meant whatever ya use is fine with me.
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Boar on January 01/11/18, 08:17:25 PM
glen would get upset if you thanked him for thanking him..
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/11/18, 08:44:48 PM
Everybody's upset and bent about everything lately. At this point, I don't give a rat's butt.
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Leech~~ on January 01/12/18, 07:29:05 PM
Here yeah go Glenn this should help your gas problem!  Not only does it have the word "Enzyme" like a million other products state.  :doofus:

It also has  "11 secret herbs and spices"  :laughroll:


 Swanson UltraAnti-Gas Enzyme

Item: SWU527

Swanson Ultra Anti-Gas Enzyme helps you avoid embarrassing situations


Made from gas-stopping ingredients


Use 10-15 minutes before meals



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Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Boar on January 01/12/18, 08:58:01 PM
now dats funny right there!!!!!
Title: Re: fuel addative question
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/13/18, 09:29:44 AM
Darned tootin'!  Whoops, pardon the pun.... :azn: