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So will Dan Bailey make his first FG today? I actually would like to see Zimm's face if he misses it.
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I'm guessing the crowd will go nuts when he puts one through.
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We are down so much I am talking to you guys. I would normally be mad but I actually think it is funny as he77. Maybe Zimm isn't the one to call the D.
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I'm outside doing fall stuff...I just turned the game off and the tunes on. :rocker;
Lemme know when it's over. :rolleyes:
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No kidding, penalty after penalty. Think maybe we otta go to church and help mikey chase the blue hairs..
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No kidding, penalty after penalty. Think maybe we otta go to church and help mikey chase the blue hairs..
I get Gertrude!! 😜
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:popcorn: What time does da Vikings game start! :doah:
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I'm outside doing fall stuff...I just turned the game off and the tunes on. :rocker;
Lemme know when it's over. :rolleyes:
It was over after da foyst quarter :doah:
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I'll haveta agree witch ya. Dat's when I went outside. 😒
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Well I do think Zimm should let George do the play calling for the D. He has too much to do as Head Coach. It is affecting his judgement.
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Well no reason to come back out of the woods or off the lake ice fishing this year at noon on Sundays! :coffee:
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Quit watchin at 1/2 time too many turnovers & penalties :bonk:, watched Tiger instead :cool: The season could be as good as over especially if they don't win at least 1 of the next 2 against the Rams & Eagles.
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MINNEAPOLIS -- Running off the field and to the locker room after their game Sunday, Sept. 23, at U.S. Bank Stadium, Buffalo Bills cornerback Tre’Davious White commandeered Kirk Cousins’ catchphrase and yelled “You like that?” several times.
There was plenty to like from the Bills in their 27-6 rout of the Vikings. Coming in as a 17-point underdog, they took a 27-0 halftime lead and cruised to a stunning and stunningly easy victory.
Minnesota fans let their feelings be known :taz: by booing! (dat's not nice) throughout the game.
“We didn’t give them much to cheer for,” Vikings tight end Kyle Rudolph said. “So it’s embarrassing on our part, the performance that we put forth today, and it’s a shame it was here at home in front of our fans. They deserve better than that.”
Wide receiver Adam Thielen called it “butt-whooping.” Running back Latavius Murray said the Vikings wee “punched in the mouth” and ranked it one of the worst losses of his six-year NFL career.
Told about White using his catchphrase, Cousins shrugged and said that is “pretty much the most common thing I hear on the field.”
What wasn’t common was the Vikings quarterback being outplayed by Buffalo’s Josh Allen, a rookie making his second start. Allen completed 15 of 22 passes for 196 yards and a touchdown and ran for two TDs.
Cousins completed 40 of 55 passes for 296 yards and a touchdown, but he threw for just 44 yards in the first half before piling up meaningless stats when the game was no longer in doubt.
Cousins especially hurt the Vikings (1-1-1) by losing fumbles on consecutive first-half possessions. With Buffalo (1-2) leading 7-0, Cousins lost the ball on a sack by Trent Murphy at the Minnesota 15. That led to a field goal and a 10-0 Bills lead.
Cousins fumbled again on a sack by Jerry Hughes, and Buffalo (1-2) took over at the Vikings’ 25. Two plays later, Allen threw a 26-yard touchdown pass to Jason Croom for a 17-0 lead.
“Obviously, you can’t turn the ball over and give their offense a short field,” Cousins said.
The Vikings never were able to recover from the two fumbles.
“Turnovers never help, and where they turned them over was not good,” Vikings coach Mike Zimmer said. “But the defense has to come out and stop them.”
The defense didn’t do much of that in the first half. Allen, who opened the scoring with a 10-yard touchdown run, added a 1-yard run in the second quarter for a 24-0 lead. Later in the quarter, Stephen Hauschka made his second field goal, a 50-yarder, for a 27-0 lead.
The Vikings needed a 4-yard touchdown pass from Cousins to Rudolph with 2:59 left in the game to avoid their first shutout since 2007.
The Vikings almost made history with their futility running the ball. Minnesota, with starting running back Dalvin Cook sidelined with a hamstring injury, had just 14 yards rushing. The team record for fewest in a game is 11, set in 1996 against Chicago.
“Obviously, that was a poor performance by us,” Zimmer said. “I obviously didn’t do a well enough job preparing this football team for this game. It was probably as poor a first half as I’ve seen in quite while.”
In addition to Cook, the Vikings played without defensive end Everson Griffen (knee), punt returner Marcus Sherels (rib) and tight end David Morgan (knee). Zimmer said Griffen did not attend the game to take care of a personal matter.
In the first half Sunday, the Vikings lost cornerback Trae Waynes and tackle Rashod Hill to ankle injuries. While Hill’s injury is not believed to be serious, Zimmer said Waynes will have an MRI.
The Vikings have a big game Thursday against the Rams in Los Angeles. Players insisted they weren’t taking the Bills lightly while looking ahead to the next game.
“It is the NFL, so all teams are capable of coming out and playing at a high level and being successful,” said linebacker Anthony Barr. “It wasn’t anything like that. It was just a lot of mental mistakes, physical mistakes.”
The Vikings had a number of penalties in the first half, including Barr’s horse-collar tackle of Allen as he was going out of bounds on second-and-18 on the second play of the second quarter. That led to Allen’s 1-yard run.
No, there wasn’t much to like from a Vikings standpoint. But there certainly was on the Bills side.
“It’s the first win of 2018 for the Buffalo Bills,” White said. “So, of course it is a big deal. Ya’ll like that?”
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YEA......YEA............ da bears won a game for a change, da vikes lost. gloat whilst you can Lee my man. cause it aintz gonna last long. come thursday nite dem vikes are gonna hand dem rams dere first loss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :dancinred: :dancinred: :rocker; :rocker; :happybounce:
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YEA......YEA............ da bears won a game for a change, da vikes lost. gloat whilst you can Lee my man. cause it aintz gonna last long. come thursday nite dem vikes are gonna hand dem rams dere first loss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :dancinred: :dancinred: :rocker; :rocker; :happybounce:
Hey Glenn I'm a Vikes Fan Also So......... DON'T GIVE ME NONE A YER LIP!
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The Vikings deny a report that Everson Griffen was arrested for trying to break into a teammate’s home, via multiple reports.
The Vikings defensive end is undergoing a mental health evaluation at a local hospital after an incident at a Minneapolis hotel Saturday night. :scratch:
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-vikings-deny-everson-griffen-was-arrested/ar-AAABu3s
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Thanks Lee, I wondered what was going on with him.
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Yeah, same here. :happy1: Heard something on the news but didn't catch the whole story.
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Listening to KFAN today and Florio was talking about how both the Vikes and Packs tanked after the OT game. They are going to explore how other teams did after an OT game the previous week.
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Doesn't sound like it would be the first time for him. :coffee:
Vikings' Everson Griffen arrested
By judd zulgad
February 1, 2011 — 12:42am
Vikings defensive end Everson Griffen was arrested on a charge of felony battery on Monday after assaulting a police officer and being tased near the Southern Cal campus, according to a spokesman with the Los Angeles Police Department.
In a story first reported by the Daily Trojan newspaper, the police pulled Griffen over around 4 p.m. Pacific time but he did not have valid identification on him. When police questioned Griffen, he became aggressive and attempted to run away. Griffen then assaulted one of the officers who was pursuing him. The officer used his taser on Griffen, who was arrested.
Griffen was being held at the 77th Community Police Station jail as of late Monday and his bail was set at $50,000.
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And iffin this was ordinary Joe Schmuck it wouldn't even make the local section of the local paper. :pouty:
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YEA......YEA............ da bears won a game for a change, da vikes lost. gloat whilst you can Lee my man. cause it aintz gonna last long. come thursday nite dem vikes are gonna hand dem rams dere first loss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :dancinred: :dancinred: :rocker; :rocker; :happybounce:
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Now What Were Ya Sayin Glennda? :scratch:
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Darn!
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No Vikes today so sort of out of synch, just like the D is. lol Some good games on but not sure If I should watch or get something done first. Big decision.
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Get that wood sawn. The big W is comin', ya know. HYAAA! Move 'em out! Ya want I should come up and supervise?! I wield a mean 18" chainsaw!!! ;)
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Ok I am on it boss. I do need supervision at times. See ya later.
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YEA......YEA............ da bears won a game for a change, da vikes lost. gloat whilst you can Lee my man. cause it aintz gonna last long. come thursday nite dem vikes are gonna hand dem rams dere first loss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :dancinred: :dancinred: :rocker; :rocker; :happybounce:
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Now What Were Ya Sayin Glennda? :scratch:
:scratch: :scratch: HUH!!!!!! WHAT??????? I been out in da woods fer 3 days?????? somethin happen??????
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Nope. Nothing other than more inane blathering. ;)
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Vikings' Kentrell Brothers returns from suspension, laments 'dumb decisions' :bonk:
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EAGAN, Minn. — Linebacker Kentrell Brothers returned to the Vikings poorer by $148,235.
That's how much money Brothers lost while serving a four-game NFL suspension for violating the NFL's policy on performance-enhancing substances. He rejoined the team this week.
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"The only thing I have learned is don't make dumb decisions because those situations, they hurt," Brothers said Wednesday before his first-regular season practice. "Not only am I hurt mentally but financially. I lose four game checks." :banghead:
Brothers, a three-year veteran with a 2018 base salary of $630,000, had to stay away from the team during his suspension. He spent time in his native Oklahoma and working out in Arizona.
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"That's all I could do is work out," he said. "I could do some recovery and watch the games and try to decipher the plays. But I didn't get to take my (team) iPad with me."
The Vikings have a roster exception on Brothers until Monday. If they want to activate him for Sunday's game at Philadelphia, they will need to make a roster move to create room.
Head coach Mike Zimmer said the decision to activate Brothers will come down to how he looks in practice. Brothers played just nine snaps from scrimmage in his first two seasons but has been a valuable contributor on special teams.
"It's been a tough four weeks for me, but I'm back now and I'm happy to help wherever they need me," Brothers said.
Cook out:
Running back Dalvin Cook, who said Monday his hamstring injury is "still healing,'' did not participate in Wednesday's practice. He sat out a 27-6 loss to Buffalo on Sept. 23 before returning for last Thursday's 38-31 loss against the Rams at Los Angeles Coliseum, where he carried 10 times for 20 yards, all in the first half.
Also sitting out Wednesday: corner-back Trae Waynes, who suffered a concussion against the Rams, and defensive end Everson Griffen, away from the team for personal reasons. He will miss his third straight game on Sunday. :doah:
Returning to practice on a limited basis was cornerback Marcus Sherels, who missed the past two games with a rib injury. Also limited were nose tackle Linval Joseph (shoulder) and defensive end Tashawn Bower (ankle). Tom Johnson (ankle) and safety Anthony Harris (hamstring), who sat out against the Rams, were full participants.
Sendejo appeals
Safety Andrew Sendejo said he appealed the $53,482 fine he was assessed for a Sept. 16 hit on Green Bay wide receiver Davante Adams, which drew a flag for unnecessary roughness. training-087
"I was surprised by it," said Sendejo, who added he doesn't think the hit deserved a penalty. :cry:
Last season, Sendejo served a one-game suspension for a hit and was fined for another. He latest fine was so big because he was dubbed a repeat offender.
Anthony Barr and Linval Joseph were also both fined by the NFL. Barr, a linebacker, was fined $20,054 for a horse collar tackle and $10,026 for a facemask penalty in a 27-6 loss to Buffalo on Sept. 23. Joseph, a nose tackle, was fined $20,054 for in the same game getting a personal foul for lowering his helmet. :doah:
Briefly:
Tackle Aviante Collins, out for the season after undergoing surgery Sept. 12 to repair a torn right biceps, is back at the TCO Performance Center rehabbing. "It's extremely frustrating, knowing where I would be at on this team," said Collins, expected to be the swing tackle this season. He said his "freak injury" occurred while blocking in a Sept. 6 practice.
Minnesota Vikings linebacker Kentrell Brothers (40) against the New Orleans Saints in the NFC Divisional Playoff football game at U.S. Bank Stadium in Minneapolis on Jan. 14, 2018.
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Is it just me or?????
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JOSEPH RUNNIN LIKE GLENN TO THE COUCH!!!
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JOSEPH RUNNIN LIKE GLENN TO THE COUCH!!!
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Man I get tired of listening to Aikman..
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Man I get tired of listening to Aikman..
yea especially since he has never been a vikes believer.
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It's Joe Buck that make me ill...
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Romo & Nance about made me :puke: the last Vikes game they did too. Think the way they played(Buffalo) started it but their commentary about finshed me off. :bonk: ;) ;D
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:reporter;....
Does Vikings coach Mike Zimmer think safety Andrew Sendejo is getting a reputation among NFL referees?
"Yeah," Zimmer said Monday, Oct. 8. "Probably." :taz:
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Sendejo was penalized under the NFL's targeting rules for the second time in five games this season late in the Vikings' 23-21 victory over the Eagles in Philadelphia. Identified as a "repeat offender," Sendejo could be suspended for Sunday's noon kickoff against the Arizona Cardinals at U.S. Bank Stadium.
Asked Monday if he expected a suspension, Sendejo said, "Uh, no." :shocked:
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Sendejo was suspended one game last season after a hit on then-Baltimore Ravens receiver Mike Wallace, his second such penalty that season. He also was fined $24,309 for a helmet hit on Tampa Bay tight end Cameron Brate in Week 3.
"These officials watch tape, too," Zimmer said. "I was talking to a lot of them before the (Eagles) game, and we were talking about some of the things the other team does, and I said, 'Do you have anything about us?' He said, 'Yeah, your one guy does this a lot.' It wasn't Sendejo, but it was someone else. So, they watch tape, too."
There's no question Sendejo is on the NFL's radar, and not just for his tackling style. During an Aug. 3 training camp practice, Sendejo wore a baseball cap featuring the motto, "Make football violent again." It was the same day the NFL had on-field officials address the new rules with Vikings players at TCO Performance Center.
Asked if he feels he's being targeted by officials, Sendejo said, "I don't know. I'm just out there playing ball."
Zimmer didn't think much about Sunday's penalty, assessed after Sendejo hit tight end Zach Ertz from behind after an incompletion in the end zone on Philadelphia's final drive.
"That wasn't, I mean, you can't, I don't know," Zimmer said Monday. :confused:
Vikings' Andrew Sendejo back in NFL's cross hairs after second targeting penalty.
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The NFL beefed up its rules on tackling during owners meetings in August. According to the 2018 NFL Rules book, "It is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent." On Sunday, Sendejo did initiate helmet-to-helmet contact on Ertz.
The penalty, officially for unnecessary roughness, set the Eagles up first-and-goal from the 7-yard line, and Ertz caught a touchdown pass on the next play.
George Iloka didn't think much of the call, either. A six-year veteran who started 76 games with Cincinnati before signing a free-agent deal with Minnesota in August, Iloka said defensive players don't even talk about the new rules anymore.
"Why? Can't change it, why talk about it?" the 28-year-old safety said Monday. "What are you going to do?"
The NFL defines the defenseless player rule as "if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture."
"I told Sendejo, 'I would do the same thing. Maybe hit him harder, if I could,' " Iloka said. "What are you going to do different? You're not going to let him catch the ball in front of you because of the rules.
"In situations like that, we're going to do what we're trained to do and do what comes naturally in this game of football. And if the refs want to make a call like that, I feel like it's not what football should be. That's on them, and we'll let fans keep complaining and hopefully they'll change it a little bit."
Sendejo was fined $53,482 for a penalized hit on Green Bay wide receiver Davante Adams in Week 2, double his previous fine from 2017. That could escalate again.
Said Sendejo: "All you can do is try to play by the rules and do the best you can." :banghead:
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YUP what a bunch of BS!
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At the rate they are going basketball is going to be more violent then football.
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Sendejo was fined $53,482 for a penalized hit on Green Bay wide receiver Davante Adams in Week 2
Well, I can see a fine of $53,480. But $53,482 is just a bit much! :mad1:
How do they even come up with these crazy numbers? :confused: :crazy:
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well that truly sux. news has it Hughes has a torn ACL and is out for the season!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty: :bonk: :bonk:
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Bummer!
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Ya darn it. So another first round draft pick that won't be on the field for us. What is with all of these ACL's.
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What is with all of these ACL's.
Bigger, stronger, faster.
I think with football stronger players training harder year round you end up with more repetitive stress on knee joints, which leads to more injuries. Besides Teddy, I think there have been a couple of other guys who have pulled up with non-contact knee injuries as well.
I think you see it with baseball pitchers too. They all throw so hard all the time that their elbow tendons blow out. One Tommy John surgery later and they are better than they were before.
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:popcorn: Jews boys "aint's gunna beat da (5-1) Saints next week" Dat's when you'll play a real football team fur a change :doah: :moon: :rotflmao:
Dat's when you'll get a real........... :rotflmao:
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:scratch: kinda like what happened to dem bears yesterday??????? kinda sounded like the Pats wanted to give the game away!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
morning LEE!!!!!!!!!! :nerd:
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https://www.kaaltv.com/sports/everson-griffen-to-rejoin-minnesota-vikings-after-mental-health-evaluation-nfl-football/5119482/?cat=10151
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Good news for the vikes. Bad news for da bears.
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Good for Griffin. I didn't expect to ever see him back. Hope it all goes well.
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I also hope things go well fer him. Da true test fur him will be dealing wit da future loss to "DA BEARS" :blues brothers:
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I also hope things go well fer him. Da true test fur him will be dealing wit da future loss to "DA BEARS" :blues brothers:
You do mean the "Last Place" Bears correct! :mooning: :mooning: :moon: :moon:
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I also hope things go well fer him. Da true test fur him will be dealing wit da future loss to "DA BEARS" :blues brothers:
You do mean the "Last Place" Bears correct! :mooning: :mooning: :moon: :moon:
Check back wit me on Sunday Night Leech ..... :rotflmao:
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And all dis time I thought he was yakkin' about DIS Bear's team....... :confused:
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I also hope things go well fer him. Da true test fur him will be dealing wit da future loss to "DA BEARS" :blues brothers:
You do mean the "Last Place" Bears correct! :mooning: :mooning: :moon: :moon:
Check back wit me on Sunday Night Leech ..... :rotflmao:
Well I may be on Facebook rubbing all my relatives in Chicago faces in it for a while. Hope you can wait? :confused: :rotflmao:
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"Well I may be on Facebook rubbing all my relatives in Chicago faces in it for a while. Hope you can wait?" :confused: :rotflmao:
Leechster ~~,
May I have permission ta use yer post when tings backfire on ya dis weekend. :smoking:
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"Well I may be on Facebook rubbing all my relatives in Chicago faces in it for a while. Hope you can wait?" :confused: :rotflmao:
Leechster ~~,
May I have permission ta use yer post when tings backfire on ya dis weekend. :smoking:
Sure can, but I never said the Vikes were going to win this weekend. Just that the Bears will stay in the basement! :thumbs: :happy1:
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I was so sorry to hear bout your Vikings loss. :cry:
I hope that you know that I am here fur jews guys whenever you need.
My thoughts are with you :rotflmao: during this time. I am so sorry for your loss. :moon:
Words, no matter how kind, can’t mend your heartache. :moon: However, those who care like Da 1st place Bears :blues brothers: wish you comfort and peace of mind. :violin:
The comfort of having a first place team may be taken away, but not that of once having had one. :doah: Wishing you strength and peace during this hard time. :happy1:
Regards,
Lee
PS.Feel free ta use dis button below when ya play "DA BEARS" :blues brothers:
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:happy1: :laugh: ;)Thielen's fumble & the interception that Diggs helped cause were too much, they never recovered IMO. :scratch: :sad: They actually played pretty well on both sides of the ball, despite all the starters out.
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Yes they were looking good until they shot themselves in the foot.
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I forgot about the whole game! Guess I didn't miss nothin'! :azn:
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I forgot about the whole game! Guess I didn't miss nothin'! :azn:
Spoken Like a true Vikings Fan! :rotflmao:
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:happy1: :laugh: ;)Thielen's fumble & the interception that Diggs helped cause were too much, they never recovered IMO. :scratch: :sad: They actually played pretty well on both sides of the ball, despite all the starters out.
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Shut up Forrest....just shut up!
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Dis is dedicated to all da Minnesota Vikings fans. I feel dat I may as well lay it on you's guys in advance of da game between "DA Bears" & Vikings. Darefore dis will be da new theam song dat "Da Bears"will be dedicatin ta da loosing Vikes :surrender: after "Da Bears" victory on November 18th. :blues brothers:
Rumor has it dat "Da Bears" will be putting in der practice squad at da start of da 2nd half a da game :rotflmao:
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:reporter; Report: Vikings plan to play Dalvin Cook, on a limited basis
A Week 2 hamstring injury has hampered running back Dalvin Cook for most of the past seven weeks. But he may end up getting a chance to face the team he was playing last year when his ACL tore.
According to Ben Goessling of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, the Vikings currently plan to use Cook on Sunday against the Lions. If Cook plays, he will be on a limited snap count.
Cook was expected to return three weeks ago against the Cardinals, but he ultimately was scratched.
A second-round pick who suffered a season-ending knee injury in Week Four last year against the Lions, Cook originally injured the hamstring against the Packers in Week Two. Less than two weeks later (and after missing a Week Three debacle against the Bills), Cook aggravated the injury on a Thursday night against the Rams. :banghead:
Cook has sputtered during his three appearances in 2018, a far cry from the impact he made in 2017. :undecided: He has 98 rushing yards and 107 receiving yards this year. As a rookie, he had 354 rushing yards and 90 receiving yards in four games.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-vikings-plan-to-play-dalvin-cook-on-a-limited-basis/ar-BBPgEIl
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Vikings WR Treadwell fined $13,369 by NFL for throwing helmet :taz:
EAGAN, Minn. — Vikings wide receiver Laquon Treadwell was fined $13,369 by the NFL for throwing his helmet last Sunday against New Orleans, a source said Saturday. :tut:
The fine had been expected. :reporter; When asked Friday if the NFL fines players for what Treadwell did, he said, “Yeah, they do.’’ :bonk: When asked if had gotten word then about being fined, he said, “I plead the fifth.’’ :confused:
In the 30-20 loss at U.S. Bank Stadium, Minnesota was flagged 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct when Treadwell threw down his helmet in frustration :mad1: after Adam Thielen lost a second-quarter fumble that was returned 54 yards to the Vikings 33. The penalty moved the ball to the 18, and the Saints scored a touchdown two plays later to take a 17-13 lead.
Treadwell said Friday that Vikings coach Mike Zimmer spoke to him about the incident.
“Obviously, it was an emotional play,’’ said Treadwell, in his third season. “Coach said what a coach would say, ‘It’s not acceptable.’ And I know that. I got to do a better job of controlling my emotions and (can’t) hurt the team. So that’s part of growing in this league and part of being better as a player.’’
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It looks like they made the right move with at least 1 of their 3 QB's from last season, Bradford was released by the Cardinals yday.
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Highlights: All 10 Vikings sacks vs. Lions. :happy1:
Watch highlights from the Detroit Lions vs. Minnesota Vikings game where the Minnesota Vikings defense had 10 sacks, a franchise record, :doah: against the Detroit Lions for Week 9 of the 2018 season.
VIDEO......
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/highlights-all-10-vikings-sacks-vs-lions/vi-BBPkvXv
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Thanks Lee. Just watched it again.
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Thanks Lee! Wasn't able to watch much of it yesterday. Listened on the radio while running errands. I promise not to pick on Da Bears...until their next game! :rotflmao:
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NOW PLAYING: NFL :popcorn: .....
Griffen says Vikings' 10 sacks were team effort :happy1:
Video.....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/griffen-says-vikings-10-sacks-were-team-effort/vi-BBPkQu1
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Thanks Lee! Wasn't able to watch much of it yesterday. I promise not to pick on Da Bears...until their next game! :rotflmao:
Good luck wit dat. I wouldn't have it any udder way. :happy1:
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Well sports fans! Looks like da Vikes will be sitting on da sidelines lickin der wounds dis weekend. Dis will give yous' a chance ta watch a real football team "DA BEARS" :blues brothers: .
Dat will give "DA BEARS" a chance to streeeetch der lead a-nudder game over da sleepy Vikes! :angry:
Bears are favored by 6 points. Only 6 :scratch: What a joke :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Should be thanking the Vikes for softening the Kitties up fer ya! I bet Stafford is still having nightmares about big guys in purple uniforms coming after him... :rotflmao:
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Well sports fans! Looks like da Vikes will be sitting on da sidelines lickin der wounds dis weekend. Dis will give yous' a chance ta watch a real football team "DA BEARS" :blues brothers: .
Dat will give "DA BEARS" a chance to streeeetch der lead a-nudder game over da sleepy Vikes! :angry:
Bears are favored by 6 points. Only 6 :scratch: What a joke :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
yea well the way I see it, da vikes on the sidelines not doing nuttin, by sunday night dey be in first place cause da LIONS eat BEARS!!!!!!!!!!! :mooning: :rotflmao:
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Looks like Glenn's back! :evil:
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I see where the Vikes claimed the back yday,Abdullah , who the Lions waived earlier in the week. I think he'll be able to help, 1 of the rookie backs was let go to make room, I think. :scratch:
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:reporter; Update........
Da Mighty and powerful Bears :blues brothers: V/S Da dwindling Vikes .
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:oscar: Da Game Has Been Flexed ta Sunday night!
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:tut: Don’t overthink it: As the defense goes, so go the Vikings :scratch:
MINNEAPOLIS — How have the Vikings rallied to pull themselves back into relevance after a 1-2-1 start? With defense, mostly, but also a slightly improved running game.
The story isn’t told entirely by defensive statistics; three missed field goals, for instance, cost the Vikings victory in a 29-29 tie at Green Bay in Week 2, and the Vikings are 1-3-1 when they lose the turnover battle. They also have played several games without end Everson Griffen, linebacker Anthony Barr, tackle Linval Joseph and safety Andrew Sendejo.
Some of those players have returned, and coach Mike Zimmer said he continues to tweak a base defense coming under increasingly tense scrutiny from opponents and teams hoping to achieve some of the Vikings’ recent success.
But whatever the reasons, the defense undoubtedly has improved since Week 4, when the Vikings gave up a season-high 556 yards in a 38-31 loss to the Rams on Sept. 27 in Los Angeles. They played probably their best game of the season in last Sunday’s 24-9 victory over Detroit at U.S. Bank Stadium.
As Minnesota held the Lions without a touchdown, and sacked quarterback Matt Stafford a franchise-record 10 times, the Vikings’ defense appeared to have finally become the one most expected after returning every key member of a unit that ranked No. 1 in total defense during the 2017 regular season.
“I wasn’t on that team, you know?” said defensive tackle Sheldon Richardson, who has made his presence felt since signing a one-year free-agent deal in the offseason. “We gladly would like to be the No. 1 defense in the league and all that stuff, but still got some season left and winning games is more important than what y’all’s (statistics) say.”
The Vikings head into their next game, Nov. 18 at Chicago, a half-game behind the :bow: fabulous Bears :blues brothers: in the NFC North, having won four of their past five games.
“It’s meshing together,” Joseph said after the Lions game.
The running game has improved, as well. After averaging a meager 77 yards in the first four games — during which time Minnesota ranked dead last in rushing among 32 NFL teams — they have run for an average of 104 yards in their past five games.
But the Vikings’ offense has been more than adequate, averaging 24.6 points a game with the NFL’s sixth-best passing game (374.3 yards a game) behind new quarterback Kirk Cousins. The difference the past five games has been most apparent on defense, and the biggest reason might be schematic adjustments
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:scratch: Seems strange dat no one is posting on da Vikes thread. :confused: In a way I can understand since da Vikes are unable ta capture 1st place in der Division. :pouty: Oh well I guess I'll go back to "DA BEARS" tread :blues brothers: where all da Action is! :smoking:
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Ya know Lee, I am always suspicious when I see your name on the Vikes thread.. But I have to check to see what you did anyways.... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Ya know Lee, I am always suspicious when I see your name on the Vikes thread.. But I have to check to see what you did anyways.... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
:oscar: OMG! Well, look at dis folks! Seems to actually be signs of life on da Vikes thread. What next? :scratch: Will day discover life on da moon. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Ya know Lee, I am always suspicious when I see your name on the Vikes thread.. But I have to check to see what you did anyways.... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
:oscar: OMG! Well, look at dis folks! Seems to actually be signs of life on da Vikes thread. What next? :scratch: Will day discover life on da moon. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
They already did, ya worm wanker. Whyda think they call it a blue moon?! :rolleyes:
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Ya know Lee, I am always suspicious when I see your name on the Vikes thread.. But I have to check to see what you did anyways.... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
:oscar: OMG! Well, look at dis folks! Seems to actually be signs of life on da Vikes thread. What next? :scratch: Will day discover life on da moon. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
They already did, ya worm wanker. Whyda think they call it a blue moon?! :rolleyes:
Who you callin a worm wanker :scratch: :angry2: Ya Minn. One Eyed One Horned Flying Purple People Eater :rotflmao:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18sN3tz7PkM
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Ya got worms??!! Ya didn't cook the turkey long enough, didja?! :tut:
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/40a72145-b9af-4ec2-ad56-4867d20cb0ae
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WELL!! :pouty: :pouty: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: Seems strange dat no one is posting on da Vikes thread. :confused: In a way I can understand since da Vikes are unable ta capture 1st place in der Division. :pouty: Oh well I guess I'll go back to "DA BEARS" tread :blues brothers: where all da Action is! :smoking:
that's cause I was causing a ruckus wit da deer and management lately!! :happy1:
No worries, come Monday morning da Vikes will be :party3: :party3: and da bears will be :confused: :taz: :taz: :violin: :rotflmao:
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How much are you two betting on this? Should the gaming commission be alerted? :police:
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How much are you two betting on this? Should the gaming commission be alerted? :police:
I don't wanna take :queen:'s bingo money! :happy1: :rotflmao:
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NFL player facing the most pressure in the second half.
:reporter; Brace Hemmelgarn/USA TODAY Sports
Dalvin Cook, Running Back, Minnesota Vikings:
Similar to the Texans, the Vikings now possess the passing attack to compete for a championship, and the defense is improving. Even with a loss to the Saints sprinkled in, Minnesota has allowed just 18.8 points per contest in the last five games. :happy1:
But .... the Vikings need more from their ground game. They are fifth to last with 91.7 rushing yards per game this season, :confused: and they fare just a little better, coming in at No. 19, in rushing yards per attempt (4.2). :doah:
Of course, the first step with Cook is staying healthy, as he has missed four games this season. :mad1: Minnesota needs him to do that and produce to win the NFC North. :banghead:
What's cookin wit Cook? :moon:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtkUnDsU0ws
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Must be a bears network. :pouty: :pouty:
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Hey dang that Carrie Underwood is cute. :wowza: wonder what she'd look like in a bikini and a fishing pole.
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You'll never know! :rotflmao:
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To all my close and dearest Viking fans! :lipsrsealed:
My thoughts are with you during this difficult time of loss. Please let me know if there is anything I can do.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Yer gonna get Glenn all hyped up and frothing at the mouth again, so you just knock it off, mister!!!!
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it was rigged...............dem bears had da refs in dere pocket. bribery at its finest. :pouty: :pouty:
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Yer gonna get Glenn all hyped up and frothing at the mouth again, so you just knock it off, mister!!!!
:popcorn: I tink it's to late! :doah:
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it was rigged...............dem bears had da refs in dere pocket. bribery at its finest. :pouty: :pouty:
I hate ta admit it but if der's anyone dat knows bout bribery it's one a use union guys :scratch: :scratch:
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Vikings/Bears Highlights Video!
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/soldier-field-hasnt-seen-this-much-fun-in-years-as-bears-ace-prime-time-test/ar-BBPRjpm?ocid=U147GDHP
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Aaahhhh...when does it end?! :doah:
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let him gloat reb............in 2 weeks, after 2 bear losses and 2 vikes victories he'll be in hiding!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
after all its been a lotta years ole Lee can feel this way!!!!!
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Aaahhhh...when does it end?! :doah:
:oops1: :sorry: Reb :bonk: how un-thoughtful of us to leave yer team out a da discussions. Da last place Bucks
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The revolving door of Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterbacks continues.
The Buccaneers once again benched the struggling Ryan Fitzpatrick, bringing Jameis Winston back in with the team trailing 24-7 to the lowly New York Giants.
Winston was originally benched in Week 9 after a series of bad performances, but Fitzpatrick has provided no lift at all. He was 13-of-21 passing on Sunday but had tossed three picks without finding the end zone. This is probably the last we’ll see of him, and it will perhaps be Winston’s final opportunity to show the Buccaneers that he deserves to remain their quarterback of the future.
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Ahh, go play wid yer team 'o bears!!!! And there ain't no "K" in "Bucs". :moon: 😜
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Ahh, go play wid yer team 'o bears!!!! And there ain't no "K" in "Bucs". :moon: 😜
Tanks fur bringin dat ta my attention :happy1: As you kin see I made da proper adjustments. :bow:
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OK Lee I finally checked in here. I had to say congrats on IllinoiS win.
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That huge Kirk Cousins contract is not looking like money well spent by the Vikings. :embarrassed:
:reporter; ...
By Washington Post Today at 12:04 p.m.
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Minnesota Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins (8) warms up prior to the game against the Chicago Bears at Soldier Field. Quinn Harris-USA TODAY Sports
Ten games into their season, the Minnesota Vikings look nothing like a Super Bowl team. The huge contract that they handed to quarterback Kirk Cousins in free agency during the offseason has not been money well spent.
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Cousins threw two interceptions Sunday night, Nov. 19, in Chicago, one of which was returned for a key fourth-quarter touchdown in the Vikings' 25-20 loss to the Bears, which dropped Minnesota's record to 5-4-1.
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It's not all about Cousins. He actually has put up good numbers this season. And the Vikings' biggest issue Sunday night was their inability to block Bears defensive standouts Khalil Mack and Akiem Hicks, not the play of Cousins.
But it's a bottom-line business. And the bottom line for Cousins and the Vikings is that they reached the NFC championship game last season with Case Keenum at quarterback, then said their farewell to him by signing Cousins to a fully guaranteed three-year, $84 million contract. The only way for the signing to be a success is for Cousins, a 4,000-yard passer in each of the previous three seasons for the Washington Redskins, to take the Vikings to the Super Bowl.
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There's no indication that's going to happen. The Vikings right now are not in the class of the New Orleans Saints and the Los Angeles Rams, the NFC's top teams. They can't even keep pace with the Bears in the NFC North. Chicago upped its record to 7-3 with the win.
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"I thought Kirk Cousins would outplay [Bears quarterback] Mitch Trubisky," former NFL coach Tony Dungy said at halftime on the NBC telecast Sunday night. "That has not been the case."
Cousins spoke during the week about the need to avoid committing turnovers against a Chicago defense so adept at forcing them. He did not heed his own words. :moon:
He threw an ugly interception in the final seconds of the first half. While under pressure, Cousins sailed a pass high over the head of tight end Kyle Rudolph and directly into the hands of Bears safety Adrian Amos at the Chicago 8-yard line.
Then in the fourth quarter, the Vikings trailed 14-6 when they got the ball at their 11-yard line with a little more than 8:30 to play. Cousins's pass toward wide receiver Laquon Treadwell was intercepted by Bears safety Eddie Jackson, who sprinted to the end zone. The Bears added a two-point conversion and pushed their advantage to 22-6.
The Vikings managed to make things interesting from there, all the way until an onside kick recovered by the Bears to seal the outcome in the final minute. Cousins piled up some passing yardage late. He threw touchdown passes in the final five minutes to wide receivers Aldrick Robinson and Stefon Diggs and ended with 262 yards on 30-for-46 passing.
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That's not terrible. But, in truth, Cousins's biggest flaws were on display. He couldn't get out of the way of the pass rush. And when crunchtime arrived, he committed an ill-timed gaffe.
The Vikings' season isn't over. Even if they can't overtake the Bears in the division race, they have a chance at an NFC wild-card spot. But this is a season in which much more was expected. Sneaking into the postseason isn't enough. Even winning a playoff game or two and reaching the NFC championship game isn't enough. :bonk:
Cousins was signed to be the final piece of a Super Bowl puzzle. :cool: It does not appear he will be that. :undecided: To whom $84 million is given, much is expected. Cousins is finding that out. :crazy:
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I disagree with the premise of that Washington Post article.
First, I think lack of offensive success should be blamed on the offensive line performance. Cousins is one of the most harassed quarterbacks in the league. And you have to be able to run the ball. Vikes are 31st in rushing. You need the run game to open up play-action passing. That is the job of the offensive line. How many time did you see Murray or Cook get to the line and there was no hole. Its the O-line, silly.
I don't think we overspent on Cousins. That is the new going rate for top-flight free agency QBs. The alternative is to graft a star who is good right away, pay him peanuts for the first 5 years, so you can pay the other players.
And as for Keenum, we'd probably only have 2 or 3 wins so far instead of the 5 wins (and a tie) that we got with Cousins. Keenum hasn't exactly lit it up for Denver.
And we can't underestimate the change over with offensive coordinators. It take time for everyone to figure things out. And that ain't cousins fault either.
No, Cousins was money well spent. Now we just need to figure out how to upgrade the offensive line.
P.S. I wouldn't want to be in Zim's Defensive meeting after they gave up 3.8 yards per rush attempt last night. Yes, our D strung a few plays out, and there were some tackles for loss, but the rest of the time the Bears were gashing us for 8 yards a clip on the ground when they ran north and south.
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Ah gee, what a surprise. From the Sour Grapes Gazette no less where they just lost their #1 quarterback to a season ending injury... :scratch:
I agree Steve-O. O line is and has been a problem for many moons. They are injured but as they say, it's part of the game. No one has an exclusive in that dept. Getting Morgan back in healthy condition would be a plus.
22 yards rushing last nite was pathetic. Either Cook is still not 100%, the line play sucks or both. Looks like the new offensive coordinator is still learning the ropes. Once they figured out Chicago's D couldn't keep up with the up tempo, no huddle offense it was too late.
I wouldn't buy my Superbowl tickets just yet if I were a Bears fan. Unless of course you want to watch KC or NE play LA or NO! :rotflmao: If Mack and/or Hicks go down they're in trouble. And speaking of trouble, if Trubisky continues to run like that, someone will eventually get him in their crosshairs and break him in two. Think Carson Wentz. Luckily he got the benefit of the doubt on some pretty obvious holding calls or he could've been running for his life more frequently. The Bears are a good team but young and not all that deep. Let's see how they do the rest of the season and especially in that last game.
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Da Bears have two more wins now than the Vikes. The Vikes gotta make up one win someplace before the last game of the season.
Forgetting about common opponents the rest of the wya, Da Bears have to play the Giants, Rams, and 49ers. Vikes play Patriots, Seahawks, and Dolphins.
Sadly, I like Da Bears' chances of maintaining their two game lead up into the last game of the season.
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Da Bears have two more wins now than the Vikes. The Vikes gotta make up one win someplace before the last game of the season.
Forgetting about common opponents the rest of the wya, Da Bears have to play the Giants, Rams, and 49ers. Vikes play Patriots, Seahawks, and Dolphins.
Sadly, I like Da Bears' chances of maintaining their two game lead up into the last game of the season.
correction 1 1/2 game lead!!!!!!!!!! :happy1:
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Zimmer preaches basic football, not new tricks, for Vikings offense.
Nov 19, 2018 at 10:01 p.m.
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Minnesota Vikings coach Mike Zimmer was not happy with the turnovers against the Chicago Bears at Soldier Field. Quinn Harris / USA TODAY Sports
EAGAN, Minn. -- Vikings coach Mike Zimmer figures it’s time to get back to the basics on offense.
After a shaky performance in Sunday’s 25-20 loss at Chicago, Zimmer said Monday the Vikings “have too much volume” on offense. So what did he mean by that? :scratch:
“Let’s just play football. …” Zimmer said. “Maybe we just need to focus a little bit on not trying to trick the other team quite so much.’’ :confused:
On Sunday, the Vikings had a season-low 268 yards of total offense and 22 yards rushing, their second-lowest total of the year. They committed three turnovers. :bonk:
“You want to add new plays every week and new plays and new plays and new plays,’’ Zimmer said. “If you’re not executing, it might be the best play in the world. Vince Lombardi might have designed it, but if you can’t execute it, then it doesn’t do you any good. Can’t protect for it or whatever it is.’’
Zimmer didn’t directly mention first-year offensive coordinator John DeFilippo, who calls the plays. The Vikings are 14th in the NFL in total offense and haven’t been as potent recently as they were earlier in the season. The Vikings (5-4-1) have averaged 21.3 points the past three games, two of them losses, after averaging 25.3 in the first seven.
“There’s times that we need to stick with it a little bit more,’’ Zimmer said of the running game. :embarrassed:
Turnovers were an issue Sunday after Zimmer said he had preached all week about protecting the ball. Quarterback Kirk Cousins threw two interceptions and running back Dalvin Cook lost a fumble. :embarrassed:
“I’ve asked several players if they’re listening to me or not or if they quit listening to me,’’ Zimmer said. “I didn’t ask them, ‘Did you?’ but, ‘Did these guys stop listening to me?’ :scratch: And they said no.’’
Cousins completed 30 of 46 passes for 262 yards but was inaccurate for much of the game. Zimmer said pressure wasn’t a big issue since Cousins had “a lot of clean pockets,’’ but overall he expressed confidence in his quarterback.
“Other than the turnovers, I have a hard time faulting him,’’ Zimmer said of Cousins, who has thrown seven interceptions this season and leads the NFL with six lost fumbles. :tut:
Penalty prone:
The Vikings had an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty and two flags for unnecessary roughness. :banghead:
In the second quarter, linebacker Eric Wilson was called for unsportsmanlike conduct because he said it was considered taunting to toss Chicago receiver Taylor Gabriel’s towel back at him after it had fallen off. Wilson said it was a “petty” call. :happy1:
“I think the one on Eric Wilson was off base,’’ Zimmer said. :party1:
Kendricks was penalized for hitting Chicago running back Tarik Cohen out of bounds in the fourth quarter, and Smith got flagged for a fourth-quarter hit on Bears quarterback Mitch Trubisky.
“(Kendricks) touched the guy, he was still in bounds, and then hit the white stripe and the guy kind of took a dive,’’ Zimmer said. “Harrison has got to pull off of the quarterback.’’
Asked about his penalty, Kendricks said, “I’m not a dirty player. I haven’t done that before. … You got to be smart.’’
Compton pulls himself:
After missing two games with a right knee injury, Vikings left guard Tom Compton returned against the Bears. But he didn’t make it out of the third quarter.
Compton was in for 36 plays before giving way to Danny Isidora, who was in for the final 31 snaps.
“I tried to do the best I could,’’ said Compton, returning from a sprained MCL. “I felt like things were going all right in the first quarter. Second quarter, I could kind of feel it coming on, and then by the time the third quarter hit, I just couldn’t really hold up, and I just thought we’d have a better chance to win if I came out, so I took myself out.’’
Compton said he didn’t feel “too great” Monday. He’s hoping, though, to be ready for Sunday night’s game against Green Bay at U.S. Bank Stadium.
“Hopefully, with a week of prep, I’ll be good to go,” he said. :happy1:
Looking to bounce back:
The Vikings were considered Super Bowl contenders before the season. Now, they’re in a fight to just make the playoffs. :doah:
After Sunday’s loss, the Vikings are 1 1/2 games behind Chicago (7-3) in the NFC North. If the playoffs started now, they would be the No. 6 seed in the NFC as the second wild-card team.
“We’re a good team,’’ Kendricks said. “We know that. It’s just about going out there and doing it. Quit talking about it. Just getting back to work, putting our hard hats on and no excuse. We’ve got to point the finger at ourselves, so we’ve just got to get the job done period.”
Safety Anthony Harris said the Vikings can’t dwell on Sunday’s defeat and must focus on Green Bay. The Packers (4-5-1) will show up at U.S. Bank Stadium in what looks to be a :mad1: must-win situation.
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Vikings’ Harris ranked No. 1 safety in NFL :bow:
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By Barry Amundson on Nov 19, 2018 at 10:11 p.m.
EAGAN, Minn. -- According to Pro Football Focus, the Vikings have the NFL’s top-ranked safety. But his name is not Harrison Smith.
Smith has been rated No. 1 at times in recent seasons, but the top guy in the league now, according to the analytics site, is Anthony Harris.
The four-year veteran hadn’t played enough before Sunday night’s 25-20 loss at Chicago to be considered for a ranking. But he qualifies now after intercepting two passes, defending three passes and being on the field for all 74 defensive plays against the Bears.
With a mark of 94.5, Harris was rated as the NFL’s top safety in Week 11, raising his season rating to 92.5. Smith, who hasn’t been as dominant this year as in past seasons, is No. 22 at 75.5.
“He’s having an opportunity to show what he has and to play his role, and he’s making the most of his opportunities,” Vikings defensive end Stephen Weatherly said of Harris on Monday. “It’s a feel-good story.”
In the first five games this season, Harris didn’t play a single snap on defense. Then starting safety Andrew Sendejo was sidelined with a groin injury, and Harris saw his first action as a reserve.
Sendejo has missed the past five games. George Iloka was his primary replacement in the first two games, but Harris has taken over the past three games, playing every snap in the past two.
“Each year, I’ve been making strides in getting better, and increase my role and help this team win and do positive things on the field,” said Harris, who joined the Vikings in 2015 as an undrafted free agent out of Virginia.
Harris had the best game of his pro career in Sunday’s loss. Sitting in his locker Monday were the two balls he had saved from the first multi-interception game.
“I felt pretty good, the opportunity to get my hands on a few interceptions,” said Harris, who had his first career interception Oct. 14 against Arizona and is tied with Smith for the team lead with three. “I would say it would have felt a lot better if we were able to pull out a win, but it’s just something to try to build on.”
With Chicago leading 3-0 early in the second quarter, Harris intercepted a Mitch Trubisky pass at the Minnesota 32, but the Vikings offense was unable to convert the turnover into points.
With the Bears leading 14-0 late in the third quarter, Harris returned an interception 33 yards to the Bears’ 31. This time, the Vikings came away with a field goal.
“It’s a little bit disappointing,” Harris said. “You want to take advantage of all the opportunities you get. But, you know, it’s something, this game of football, there’s going to be adversity.”
Harris started eight games in his first three seasons, filling in when Smith or Sendejo was injured. During the offseason, Harris added about 10 pounds to get to 200.
“I tried not to bulk up where it would slow me down,” he said. “So I put on a little weight while keeping my mobility. And I worked on my flexibility, being able to move better.”
Vikings coach Mike Zimmer said Harris has improved in other areas.
“I just think confidence,” Zimmer said. “He sees things and reacts. … He’s very smart. He’s good visually, kind of understanding what the offense is trying to do.”
Zimmer will need to make a decision on who starts when Sendejo is cleared to return. :scratch: Sendejo has been the regular starter since 2015 alongside Smith and ranks No. 39 among safeties this season, according to Pro Football Focus.
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Harrison Smith fined $10,026 for hit that hurt Mitchell Trubisky. :tut:
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Josh Alper
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Vikings safety Harrison Smith heard from the league this week about a hit he put on Bears quarterback Mitchell Trubisky in last Sunday’s game between the NFC North teams.
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Tom Pelissero of NFL Media reports that Smith has been fined $10,026 for the hit. Smith hit Trubisky after Trubisky threw himself to the ground at the end of a run.
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Trubisky did not make a traditional feet first slide, but the league made it a point of emphasis this season that a quarterback “not have to slide feet first to be considered to be giving himself up.” Trubisky hurt his shoulder (ouchey) on the play and did not take part in Thursday’s game against the Lions as a result.
Pelissero adds that Smith plans to appeal the fine. :angry2:
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Poor baby. Trubby got an ouwie from da Vikings. :cry: :cry:
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:reporter; Why does Vikings QB Kirk Cousins struggle when lights are bright? :cool:
Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins pushed back when asked this week about his 4-12 career record in NFL prime-time games. :doah:
His reasoning: In the NFL, each game is its own entity, and his struggles when the lights are brightest are coincidence more than anything else. :cool:
Still, whether Cousins wants to admit it or not, his struggles in such games have become a trend. It sure feels that way with his new team, the Vikings, with whom he is 0-3 in prime-time games this season.
While the three losses have come against three pretty good teams — 38-31 on the road to the Los Angeles Rams, 30-20 at home against the New Orleans Saints and 25-20 last Sunday on the road against the Chicago Bears — Cousins needs to find a way to remedy those issues against the Green Bay Packers at 7:20 p.m. Sunday at U.S. Bank Stadium.
“I feel like a little bit of a broken record because the question each week is, ‘How important is this game?’” Cousins said. “And the answer is, ‘Yeah, it’s important.’ They all are. I don’t really know how to give a different answer on it. It’s an important game. We need and want to come out with a win and there’s certainly a sense of urgency, as there is every week as we prepare.”
That sense of urgency will more than likely hinge on how Cousins performs in another pressure-filled environment. He hasn’t shown the ability to rise to the occasion in big moments this season; the Vikings (5-4-1) haven’t beaten a team with a winning record.
“If there’s a difference (with prime-time games), it’s going to be that we’re playing good football teams,” Cousins said. “We got flexed to that prime-time game last week because we were playing a really good football team. If either of us weren’t good, I don’t think we’d get flexed. If there was a difference with prime time, that would be it. I don’t know of many other differences. I certainly don’t treat them any differently.”
Perhaps the most interesting part of Cousins’ struggles in prime-time games is that he actually puts up pretty good numbers. He has completed 68 percent of his passes for 4,883 yards, 31 touchdowns and 16 interceptions. Those are money numbers.
“The untrained eye is going to look at the final score and say, ‘Well, that was not a good performance,’ ” Cousins said. “The trained eye is going look a little deeper and say, ‘Well, let’s go play by play and say how we did.’ It’s week to week, as every game is, regardless of when we play.”
Cousins is quick to point out that statistics aren’t always indicative of success, referencing how the Washington Redskins won last season on Thanksgiving Day despite his poor performance.
“It gets a little bit convoluted trying to look at a stat and pair it with a player,” Cousins said. “We’d have to go back through all the prime-time games I’ve played and talk through them because every game is different.”
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:reporter; Teams on upset alert in NFL Week 12
The playoffs are inching closer and closer every weekend, and following the Thanksgiving holiday in NFL Week 12, things are really heating up.
There are some huge match ups on the slate this week with playoff implications. There are also some intriguing contests between teams whose seasons have no intrigue aside from where they’ll land in the draft order next April.
Every game carries significant consequences, regardless. Every team is fighting for something. So, who’s on upset alert this weekend as the league moves toward its final quarter?
Green Bay Packers vs. Minnesota Vikings (-3)
If the Packers have any shot at clawing their way back into the NFC playoff hunt, it has to start this Sunday night in Minneapolis. To this point in the season, Green Bay has not won a single game on the road. And both teams are fighting like crazy to shrug off mediocrity at this point — the game is going to be incredibly competitive from start to finish.
One reason to believe the Packers have what it takes to finally win a road game this year is the burgeoning stardom of running back Aaron Jones. Fans and fantasy experts have been clamoring for the playmaker to receiver more meaningful snaps the past two years. Now he’s finally getting that kind of attention in the Packers offense. And to nobody’s surprise, he’s dominating.
Another reason to believe Green Bay will prevail is that Kirk Cousins has thrown four interceptions the past three games, including two against Chicago last week. He seems to be pressing, and the Packers have the playmakers to take advantage.
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Will be interesting to see if Cousins can take the pressure.
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If the Vikings don't start playing better then they have so far I'm going upstairs and watch some sappy dumbass Christmas movie!! :angry2: :angry2: :doofus: :doofus: :doofus:
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Is Thielen in tonite or still on limited???!?!?!?!
NEVER MIND!! :laugh:
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If the Vikings don't start playing better then they have so far I'm going upstairs and watch some sappy dumbass Christmas movie!! :angry2: :angry2: :doofus: :doofus: :doofus:
yea that one called a smurf berry christmas
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Ahh, pipe down and watch the game, ya muggins!! :cheerleader:
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geeez ya dont have to get all cranky crabie slappy pappy.
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Boary worey kissy da floory!!! :mooning: Glenn said to say that. :rotflmao:
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Can someone explain that last penalty?! GB goes into neutral zone, their penalty, kick was good at 55 yds....so they add a yd to it and haveta rekick at 56 yds???!! :confused:
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Hell even on the last try GB ruffed up the kicker and wasn't called.
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Cousins has to learn to RUN.....not tippy-toe like a little :censored: girl!!!! :angry:
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it was 51 yrds then a 5 yrd penalty to make it 56
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That's the way I remember it too, Boar. Cousins, Theilen, & Rudolph all had good games for the offense. I think #'s 93 & 99 had big games for the "D" too. Big win, now they need to figure out to win 1 of the next 2. Good to see Erin not smilin at the end of a game with the Vikes for a change. :happy1:
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Ya at least we won. Now Seattle and the Pats. Both good tests.
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Ya, if Cousins can get a bit less frustrated, and they boot that KICKER in the butt, might have a chance.
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Cousins is a great passer. I just hope he isn't a pansy.
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I think he gets a bit rattled when the crunch is on...gotta stay frosty.
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I think he gets a bit rattled when the crunch is on...gotta stay frosty.
:sorry: But I had to infiltrate dis tread ta let ya know what yer in fer! :happy1:
Da Bears plan ta give da Vikes anudder case of da Hicks-ups next month....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihbEebzAt-0
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yea i think you need to worry about your bears near future. them RAMS are gonna wipe the turf with bear hydes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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yea i think you need to worry about your bears near future. them RAMS are gonna wipe the turf with bear hydes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
I wouldn't argue dat Glennster. Da Rams are riding high at dis point. However dem's boys ain't played against Hicks & Mack on defence yet. Doze 2 boys are playin better every game. training-087 Plus Da Bears will be playin in Chicago.
Time will tell........... :scratch:
Hicks is a madman :taz: and Mack is insane! :doofus:
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I just looked and I see the Pattys are favored by 6 over the Vikes.
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I'm afraid Cousins will get steamrolled and flattened by the Pat's D....... :doah:
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Ya they are pretty darn good. If we beat them I will be impressed. Even if it's not pretty.
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I'd be :happy1: if'n they win 1 of the next 2 :cool:
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Dem Vikes are gonna win out! :happy1:
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Says Glenny the Greek. 🏈 :rotflmao:
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Says Glenny the Greek. :rotflmao:
Opa!
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:sorry: Glenn
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Dem Vikes are gonna win out! :happy1:
They need to, but that is not going to happen.
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Dem Vikes are gonna win out! :happy1:
:scratch: Too much purple koolaid?? ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
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Makes you wonder what he has in da purple koolaid. ;) :rotflmao:
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Truth serum! :azn:
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Minnesota Vikings vs New England Patriots.
:coffee: " Da Odds" :whistling:
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https://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/minnesota-new-england-odds-december-2-2018-971592?utm_source=pickpapa
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:pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: :doah: :doah: :censored: :censored: pot stirrer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: training-087 training-087 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: :doah: :doah: :censored: :censored: pot stirrer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: training-087 training-087 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Ya! :happy1: What are the odds we'll quit seeing Bears/Vikings posts??! :doofus:
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:pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: :doah: :doah: :censored: :censored: pot stirrer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: training-087 training-087 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:confused: Just tryin ta be helpful :evil:
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Ya! :happy1: What are the odds we'll quit seeing Bears/Vikings posts??! :doofus:
[/quote]
Old Chinese Proverb
"You no look.... you no see....Ok by Lee...." :rotflmao:
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Old proverb by Reb....
"You no look...you no see...you run into big fat tree"... :rotflmao:
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:pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: :doah: :doah: :censored: :censored: pot stirrer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: training-087 training-087 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
: :pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: :doah: :doah: :censored: :censored: pot stirrer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: training-087 training-087 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Now your really in trouble Lee!! ;) ;D Glenn just said you 2 are a lot alike. :scratch: :doah: :bonk: :laugh:
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Wait for it....wait for it..... :popcorn:
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:pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: :doah: :doah: :censored: :censored: pot stirrer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: training-087 training-087 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: :doah: :doah: :censored: :censored: pot stirrer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: training-087 training-087 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Now your really in trouble Lee!! ;) ;D Glenn just said you 2 are a lot alike. :scratch: :doah: :bonk: :laugh:
Could be worse! We could be just like Glenn! :rotflmao:
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I just checked and Vegas now has NE favored by 5 - 5 1/2.
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:pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: :doah: :doah: :censored: :censored: pot stirrer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: training-087 training-087 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: :doah: :doah: :censored: :censored: pot stirrer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: training-087 training-087 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Now your really in trouble Lee!! ;) ;D Glenn just said you 2 are a lot alike. :scratch: :doah: :bonk: :laugh:
Could be worse! We could be just like Glenn! :rotflmao:
oh you felllers could only wish!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :sleazy: :sleazy: :mooning: :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Thought I heard 'em say on Golic & Wingo this morning that the line was Patriots & -7. :scratch: Course they're in Hartford so maybe them's east coast odds. :confused:
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odds smodds..............dem Vikins are gonna put a beat down on da hometeam pats!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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I just checked and Vegas now has NE favored by 5 - 5 1/2.
Barry, Boar's snausage twist rulebook says you can't do 1/2's...... :tut: :rotflmao:
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odds smodds..............dem Vikins are gonna put a beat down on da hometeam pats!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
:crazy: And Chicken Little Say's.... "Da Sky Is Falling"
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:reporter; Stefon Diggs out of practice again, says he’s playing Sunday. :scratch:
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Vikings wide receiver Stefon Diggs missed a second straight day of practice on Thursday because of a we- knee injury, :cry: but he doesn’t expect the issue to be a problem this weekend.
Diggs said, via Chris Tomasson of the Pioneer Press, that he will be in the lineup against the Patriots on Sunday.
While that’s an optimistic view, Diggs hasn’t always been on the money :tut: when it comes to medical predictions. He said early this month that he would play in Week Nine against the Lions despite a chest injury, but he wound up on the inactive list on gameday.
Cornerback Xavier Rhodes also sat out practice for the second straight day as he deals with a hamstring injury that head coach Mike Zimmer called “very, very mild.” The team will practice again on Friday and issue injury designations for Sunday later in the day.
Video:.......
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EAGAN, Minn. — The Vikings have released Friday’s injury report ahead of facing the New England Patriots (8-3) at Gillette Stadium on Sunday.
Wide receiver Stefon Diggs (knee) and cornerback Xavier Rhodes (hamstring) both practiced for the first time this week on Friday and are listed as questionable.
Cornerback Mackensie Alexander (knee) was first added to the injury report on Thursday as a limited participant. Alexander also is listed as questionable.
Wide receiver Brandon Zylstra was added to the injury report on Friday and is listed as questionable.
Wide receiver Chad Beebe (hamstring) and tight end David Morgan (knee) both did not practice this week and have been ruled out.
Linebacker Ben Gedeon (concussion) and wide receiver Adam Thielen (calf) were both limited participants on Wednesday, and Thursday and are likely to play.
Guard Mike Remmers (low back), guard Tom Compton (knee), linebacker Eric Kendricks (chest) were all full participants this week.
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Oh for ^%$^#! :doah:
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Mus-ta been injuries dat dem boys received durin da bears game, come back ta haunt dem. :doah:
EAGAN, Minn. — The Vikings have released Friday’s injury report ahead of facing the New England Patriots (8-3) at Gillette Stadium on Sunday.
Wide receiver Stefon Diggs (knee) and cornerback Xavier Rhodes (hamstring) both practiced for the first time this week on Friday and are listed as questionable.
Cornerback Mackensie Alexander (knee) was first added to the injury report on Thursday as a limited participant. Alexander also is listed as questionable.
Wide receiver Brandon Zylstra was added to the injury report on Friday and is listed as questionable.
Wide receiver Chad Beebe (hamstring) and tight end David Morgan (knee) both did not practice this week and have been ruled out.
Linebacker Ben Gedeon (concussion) and wide receiver Adam Thielen (calf) were both limited participants on Wednesday, and Thursday and are likely to play.
Guard Mike Remmers (low back), guard Tom Compton (knee), linebacker Eric Kendricks (chest) were all full participants this week.
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1/2 of the team is questionable then. Darn. Hope it is all to smoke screen Belichek.
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Lee seems to be forgetting that this game is 1 of 6 that's got UPSET ALERT written all over it.
of course he's probably lookin for his book of excuses when da bears lose today!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Ya I hope the Giants beat the Bears. I'm looking for it on TV right now.
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Well da Cardinals just took care of da Packers. :dancinred: :dancinred:
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Like I said before, get RID of Bailey! A friggin' kangaroo could kick better than him!!!
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Can you say " out coached" at this point..
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Heck, half the team's sitting on the injured bench... :huh:
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Can you say " out coached" at this point..
yea no kidding. I've never seen so many non conventional plays buy a team that new England has thrown at the Vikings. :crazy:
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Giants beat the Bears too.
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It's good to see they are stretching the field finally. Zimmer has his ways of putting the choke hold in the 2nd half, we'll see..
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Just think...if dip$hit woulda made that field goal, we'd be tied now... :angry2:
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BREAKING NEWS: Packers just fired McCarthy! :shocked:
Philbin will be the interim coach...
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Yup we should have let the young Carlson stay as our kicker. We suck. And I am the eternal optimist as a Vikes fan. We need McCarthy and Rodgers or we will be lucky to be 8 and 8 for years.
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It is looking like 8 and 8 is where we will probably end up this year.
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It's good to see they are stretching the field finally. Zimmer has his ways of putting the choke hold in the 2nd half, we'll see..
Our defense did their job and held Patriots to 24 points despite the fact that they seemed to gash us for at least 8 yards on every run and 15 yards on every catch. (I don't know how Zimm's defense does that.)
But our offense is the issue. I don't know if the transition from Shurmur to DeFilippo isn't clicking yet. Why can't he design plays to fool defenses? They say we should run more, but if the offensive line can't open and holes. How's that goona work? We got two great receivers, two very good running backs, and a good quarterback and a good tight end. I hope there is money for next year to rebuild the offensive line.
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Gotta agree, Steve-O, in fact I thought the defense did a great job until # 29 went out & we had to put our kick returner & a rookie back there. That's when they had the 2 quick TD's. The O line did a decent job in the first half IMO but after they went up a couple scores & we abandoned the run, they were in Cousin's face on just about every play. I don't recall :scratch: how many sacks they had, it didn't seem like it was very many but they were pressuring him everytime he dropped back. :pouty:
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I still think Kevin Stefanski who had been our QB Coach for quite a few years should have been promoted to OC. That's what Fillipino did up until a couple of years ago. He's no mastermind OC at all. The Vikes wouldn't let Stefanski interview for another job last year so he had to stay here. What a slap in the face that must be to him. The players know him and like him. Also George Edwards is the DC but you'd never know it. The players know him and respect him too. HE should be allowed to do his job and call the plays not Zim. Zim is not as good as he thinks he is. SO two qualified people that are on the payroll could maybe turn this whole train wreck around. Zim obviously can't handle all of the things a Head Coach needs to do. Let the guys do their jobs.
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They need "chucky". ;) (Jon Gruden)
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well I sure hope our new OC gets a head coaching job somewhere!!!!!!! :crazy: :doofus: :doofus: :bonk: :bonk:
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now yur calling some one a hoe!! have u no boundaries...
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now yur calling some one a hoe!! have u no boundaries...
naw... I've just read to many of your posts, so I slip on my spelling once in a while!! :mooning: :mooning: and I have no idea what you're talking about!! :coffee:
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I'm not sure :scratch: who had the worst game between the O line, the OC, Cousins, or the refs. :confused: Not many penalties but the 1 they missed on the FG was huge IMO. :bonk: Seattle's D had a good game but we need to figure out how to run the ball better.
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Need to stop trying to run it up the middle when we know we can't do it.
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That's the old Denny Green trick that NEVER worked...run it up the middle *FLATTENED*
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Terrible game. I can't even look at Cousins anymore. Disgusting QB. Looked scared to death out there. He is partly why the line is so bad. We kicked ass last year with a worse QB and a worse OL. We are stuck with him for 2 more years. Things have gone haywire in the locker room since Zim got here. I think he needs to take a look at himself. Funny as heck that Carlson is doing so well now that he got out of Zim land.
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i dont think the place kicker issue is Zimmer.............its the special teams coach. on the radio one day they talked about this.....apparently this coach likes to mess with the kickers mechanics.
out OF coordinator needs to go away!!!!!! :confused: :confused:
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That's me walking next to the horse...
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Terrible game. I can't even look at Cousins anymore. Disgusting QB. Looked scared to death out there. He is partly why the line is so bad. We kicked ass last year with a worse QB and a worse OL. We are stuck with him for 2 more years. Things have gone haywire in the locker room since Zim got here. I think he needs to take a look at himself. Funny as heck that Carlson is doing so well now that he got out of Zim land.
I have said many times that we should have kept Keenum. I think we would have been better off. I do like Zim though and Flip needs to go. I think we did better last year because of Shurmur being the OC.
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X2 about flip needing to go. I would have had him cleaning out his desk this morning if i had any say in it.
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X2 about flip needing to go. I would have had him cleaning out his desk this morning if i had any say in it.
I'd really like the inside story on why things aren't clicking for the offense. Based on the product I see on the field, I'm not qualified to say if it is the players not executing or the coaches putting the players in the wrong spot to be successful.
You see teams make scores on the goal line all the time - either bull rush the pile forward, or use some other play fake or deception to get guys wide open in the end zone. Why can't we seem to do either?
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X2 about flip needing to go. I would have had him cleaning out his desk this morning if i had any say in it.
I'd really like the inside story on why things aren't clicking for the offense. Based on the product I see on the field, I'm not qualified to say if it is the players not executing or the coaches putting the players in the wrong spot to be successful.
You see teams make scores on the goal line all the time - either bull rush the pile forward, or use some other play fake or deception to get guys wide open in the end zone. Why can't we seem to do either?
Becuz we're the ViQueens, silly!!! :doah: :doofus:
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Flip fired Stefanski promoted to OC. :happy1: :happy1:
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Flip fired Stefanski promoted to OC. :happy1: :happy1:
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https://www.kaaltv.com/sports/vikings-fire-offensive-coordinator/5175418/?cat=10151
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Maybe Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden will come out of retirement.... ;)
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Everyone was wondering why Coach Zim would call out his offensive coordinator in public like he did a week ago.
Well, I guess we know now!
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hire McCarthy, he neexs a job!
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Maybe Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden will come out of retirement.... ;)
:crazy: :crazy: gruden is head coach of oakland!!!!!!!
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Oakland IS a retirement job, knockwurst! Oakie's californy kooks! Don't you have some liddle fish to stuff in jars anyway? You know; union stuff! :moon:
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That's a retirement job, knockwurst! Oakie's californy kooks! Don't you have some liddle fish to stuff in jars? :moon:
:bonk: :bonk: :bonk: :bonk: yepper did that last nite!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mooning: :mooning: :mooning:
and i'd say his retirement job aint fairing to well!!!!!!!
oh and retirement is discribed as not gainfully employed ya bologna brain!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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hire McCarthy, he neexs a job!
Or better yet...
DeFilippo to the Packers as their next head coach. Aren't they looking for a green head coach who Rodgers can push around?
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and i'd say his retirement job ain't fairing to well!!!!!!!
Chuckie is right on course. Tank for two years, acquire good draft choices, cut payroll. Who cares what happens in Oakland?
Then draft, spend, and build when they get to Vegas.
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Maybe they'll draft a couple of 'em for the Twinkies. :rotflmao:
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EAGAN, Minn. (AP) — When the Minnesota Vikings went all-in on Kirk Cousins as their long-sought franchise player last spring, they paired him with a new offensive coordinator considered to be part of the current wave of up-and-coming quarterback developers and innovative play-callers putting a strong imprint on the NFL.
The partnership with John DeFilippo that had so much potential lasted nine months.
Cousins and his Vikings teammates were doused this week with the cold shower of coach Mike Zimmer's decision to fire DeFilippo after just 13 regular-season games, the latest dose of the reality of this cutthroat league as well as a sobering reminder that their lagging performance ultimately cost him the job.
"It's the hard part of this business, and it was tough news," Cousins said before practice on Wednesday. "I hate seeing it happen."
Pro football's furnace of fan-driven angst over a struggling offense had been directed over the past month toward DeFilippo and his in-game decision-making, with Zimmer's public second-guessing of the play-calling only adding to the heat.
Cousins, in the first season of his fully guaranteed, three-year, $84 million contract, joined DeFilippo over the past month on the firing line.
The Vikings (6-6-1) have lost three of their past four games, with Cousins posting three of his five lowest passer ratings in those games, all on the road against postseason-bound teams.
"One of the things I did communicate to coach Flip yesterday was, 'I believe with the ball in my hand, had I played at my fullest potential play-in and play-out, we're probably not having this conversation right now,'" Cousins said.
"That's something I take personally and is certainly tough for me and keeps you up at night. But at the same time, all you can do now is go forward."
Cousins complimented DeFilippo for his "very classy and very gracious" conversation with him on Tuesday after the dismissal.
"I have a lot of respect for him as a coach. I have a lot of respect for him as a person. And I believe that his best days in this league are ahead of him," Cousins said. "I think he's a very good coach, and I think he'll be a coordinator again. I think he's head coach material, as well."
Zimmer made the move about 12 hours after Minnesota's 21-7 loss at Seattle on Monday, when the offense didn't score until 70 seconds remained in the game.
With the Vikings still, somehow, in control of the second wild-card spot in the top-heavy NFC, Zimmer decided to fire DeFilippo and make quarterbacks coach Kevin Stefanski the offensive coordinator for the remainder of the season in a last-ditch attempt to create a spark for a sputtering unit.
"It may work. It may not work. You get feelings and you trust your gut," Zimmer said. "It's no different than, it's fourth-and-8, you've got to call the blitz, you meet it head on, and you go. Now are we going to talk about Miami? Or are we going to keep talking about this?"
Ah, yes, the Dolphins (7-6), who are due in Minnesota on Sunday afternoon. They're tied for third in the NFL with 25 takeaways, a dangerous trend for Cousins and his 16 turnovers that are tied with New York Jets rookie Sam Darnold for the most in the league.
"I'd be the first one to say if I had played at a higher level, we're probably not talking about the things we're talking about," Cousins said.
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At least he manned up & admitted that his play has been a big part of it. Kind of a tough deal knowin your play was a big part of someone losing their job. It's the nature of the beast though & I'm pretty sure De Filippo won't be out of work that long. The O line has been awfully shaky the last 3-4 games too, I think. See how the new OC handles it, hope he figures out a way to get everybody settled down & in the flow to start the game.
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Lets hope something good comes happens from this.
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Now I am excited to watch the next game. I really lost some Vikings fire after that Seattle mess. I hope Stefanski does great. He has coached here for 12 years I think. He deserves this shot and the guys know him and like him.
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dats funny!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Hey had anyone heard from our pal Lee??? I figured after da Vikings downfall and his bears beating the Rams he'd be strutin like a banty rooster??? Hope all is well with him!
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that is a good question... he would have been all over that...
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Ya I have been waiting for him to rub it in.
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Yah, I was starting to think the same thing.
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Ya I have been waiting for him to rub it in.
Was thinking the same thing :shocked:, almost before the Vikes game was over. Hope he's OK. :confused:
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Two football fans were talkin bout Da Bears/Vikes game on Sunday. Da Vikes fan (in red) tells Da Bears Fan (in black)..."I wonder how I'll feel after da game if my Vikes loose" Da bears fan says: "dat's easy.... I'll show ya!"
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OOHH! Lee you are back in action. I woke up this morning thinking it was Sunday and I was trying to remember if the game was a noon or 3. Then I remembered it is not today.
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OOHH! Lee you are back in action. I woke up this morning thinking it was Sunday and I was trying to remember if the game was a noon or 3. Then I remembered it is not today.
Not ta worry my friend :tut: I have a list of meds dat just about covers everything. I hope ya are covered by medicare :scratch:
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He prolly had too much rum in the 'nog last nite, Lee. ;)
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good to see ya back Lee!!
too much rum??? no way!!!
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good to see ya back Lee!!
too much rum??? no way!!!
Oh? Tell us more...... :evil:
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Who Me??? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Not you! Mike! I wanna know how much he spiked someone's 'nog...... ;)
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Bet my owls weren't the ONLY thing hootin' last nite!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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don't drink rum, I was helping LPS!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Great job Mike.
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Well I see a three peat the next 5 days.
Vikings over da bears
Wild over da Blackhawks, and
Da Timberwolves over the bulls!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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Glenn the Greek! ;)
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Glenn the Greek! ;)
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Glenn the Greek! ;)
:happy1: :happy1:
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Well I see a three peat the next 5 days.
Vikings over da bears
Wild over da Blackhawks, and
Da Timberwolves over the bulls!!! :happy1: :happy1:
And once again.....I see dat "Glenn has lost his mind" :doofus:
Poor Glenn :doah: Once again he's out chasing dat darn banana :rolleyes:
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Week 17 Game preview: Bears vs. Vikings
The regular season finale has plenty of story lines and isn’t the end of the season story for the Bears
For the first time since I took over writing these game previews a couple of years ago, I don’t have to write a short eulogy on the season and include phrases like ‘last Bears game until September’ or ‘enjoy it because a long off season will start Monday.’
That’s right, there will be a postseason run to talk about. The stress level will be higher and there will be no guarantee of a next week but this will be fun.
But there is still the matter of Sunday’s game to talk about. The Vikings are playing for their own playoff life and the Bears have seeding implications at play.
There’s a lot of will-they, won’t-they talk surrounding the Bears are far as how hard the team will play or how much the starters will play. It’s tough to say but it sounds like there’s a good chance that we’ll see the starters for at least a half of the game.
Minnesota Vikings
SB Nation site: Daily Norseman
Game day/time/TV: Sunday, 3:25 p.m. CT, FOX
Record: 8-6-1
Last week: 27-9 win over Detroit
Bears all-time record against: 53-60-2 (including postseason)
Historical match ups: The last time the Bears won in Minnesota, it was also the last game of the season.
Back in Week 17 of 2011, Josh McCown started for the injured Jay Cutler and the ineffective Caleb Hanie. Just weeks after patrolling the sideline of a high school as a coach, he led the Bears from down 10-0 early to hit Roy Williams for a touchdown.
A Charles Tillman pick six and a Robbie Gould field goal were all the Bears needed to eek out a 17-13 win.
Last meeting: Just over a month ago, on Sunday Night Football, fans were talking about the Bears finally having their shot at a winning football team and a shot to establish themselves as a true contending playoff team. They beat the Vikings 25-20, but it wasn’t even that close.
The Vikings scored twice after the Bears were already up 22-6 to get it close.
Offense: Minnesota enters Week 17 with 16th ranked offense in terms of points and 17th in terms of yards.
Their passing offense ranks 10th in passing yards and fifth in attempts, led by Kirk Cousins (70.7 pct. cmp./4,166 yds./29 TD/10 INT) throwing to dangerous weapons like Adam Thielen (110 rec./1,335 yds./9 TD), Stefon Diggs (94/974/8) and Aldrick Robinson (17/231/5).
They account for 22 of Cousins’ 29 TD passes, the others belong to TE Kyle Rudolph (60/615/4), WR Laquon Treadwell (34/295/1) and RB Dalvin Cook (36/284/2).
Speaking of Cook, he is arguably their best offensive weapon, but certainly their most versatile. The Vikings rank 30th in rushing yards, 27th in rushing TDs and 26th in attempts, but Cook is an effective back when he’s healthy.
His numbers (122 att./576 yds./2 TD) work out to 4.7 yards per carry and his 5.4 yards per touch are a testament to his versatile game.
He actually is second on the team in rushing to Latavius Murray (138/560/6) but that’s mostly due to missing five games.
Defense: The Vikings defense is fierce, every bit as good as the Bears. They come in ranked seventh in points allowed and third in yards allowed.
They rank third in pass yards allowed, first in touchdown passes allowed but are 16th in interceptions.
Their rushing defense ranks 11th in yards allowed and sixth in touchdowns allowed.
Overall they rank 15th in terms of turnovers with 20, so average, which is surprising with the playmakers and their unit ranks overall.
Up front they boast Danielle Hunter (14.5 sacks/21 TFL/19 QBH), Everson Griffin (5.5 sk./5 TFL/13 QBH), Sheldon RIchardson (4.5 sk./6 TFL/16 QBH) and their version of Eddie Goldman in Linval Joseph (1 sk/4 TFL/3QBH/1 FF).
Their linebackers are good too with Anthony Barr (3 sk./2 PD/1 FF/8 TFL) and Eric Kendricks (108 tkl/3 TFL/2 INT/7 PD/1 FF) making plays all over the place.
The secondary is no slouch either with S Harrison Smith (3 INT/6 PD/1 FF/8 TFL), Trae Waynes (8 PD/1 INT), Xavier Rhodes (7 PD/1 INT), Mackensie Alexander (9 PD/4 sk./7 TFL) and Anthony Harris (3 INT/6 PD) all making plays.
They have 16 players with at least half a sack, a testament to the amount of different looks and blitzes they like to throw at their opponents.
Injury report: The Vikings listed eight players on their Wednesday injury report:
Full participation: LB Anthony Barr (shoulder), TE David Morgan (knee)
Limited: FB C.J. Ham (elbow), DT Linval Joseph (knee), LB Eric Kendricks (hamstring), G Mike Remmers (low back), CB Xavier Rhodes (groin), Marcus Sherels (foot)
Key match ups: The front seven against Mitch Trubisky looms large here, will Trubisky be able to recognize where the pressure will come from while keeping his eyes downfield and find where the open receiver is?
Picking apart the tough secondary of the Vikings will be difficult, Trubisky struggled during the first meeting, throwing two picks and leading the offense to just one touchdown. What did he learn from that game?
On defense, I think the match up is the Bears’ front four getting pressure on Kirk Cousins is the biggest key. Sure, I think that shutting down Dalvin Cook is important because he has the speed and the skillset to burn the defense, but Cousins makes the whole thing work.
Cousins’ struggles against winning teams and big moments is well documented. If the Bears can rattle him, like they did in the first game, then he should turn the ball over.
What to watch for: Playoff seeding; will the Bears truly go all out to keep a division rival out of the postseason or will they simply just do enough to put up a fight in the first half and then cruise in the second?
There are some really intriguing things at play.
Key stats: Cousins’ pass attempts have dropped a bit since the team fired John DeFilippo, going from 37.4 attempts per game to 24.5
The Vikings have also gotten Murray and Cook a combined 29.5 rushing attempts per game since changing coordinators.
The Vikings are 0-4-1 when they lose the turnover margin, they’ve only won the turn over margin four times
Kirk Cousins is number two in the NFL with three pick sixes thrown, just one behind Josh Rosen
Cousins is also tied for fourth with nine fumbles this year
The pick: Vikings 28, Bears 23 - Ultimately, I don’t think many Bears starters will finish this game and I think the Vikings pull it out in the end to make the playoffs. To see my analysis of the game against the spread and the total, click here to read my piece on Sports Bet Collective.
What do you think the Bears need to do to win Sunday? :scratch: Will they try? :confused:
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I think the bears can win with their second team.
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Home field and 4.5 for Viks to win this one! :happy1:
https://www.sportsline.com/insiders/50529791/uncanny-vikings-expert-releases-chicago-minnesota-pointspread-pick/?ttag=SL18_agg_cbssports_nfl_vikingsbears&fbclid=IwAR2i1DmlSYxS5AbjnzGE1bxoRz8ZCUEKEsA3br7_GMAqqcSWNJ9XfzNAZzs
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I think he is off his rocker.
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Gonna be a good game......................I hope. :rolleyes:
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I think he is off his rocker.
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Game face?
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Well I see a three peat the next 5 days.
Vikings over da bears.....................................................................Wrong! Never happen
Wild over da Blackhawks, and..........................................................Wrong! Again :moon:
Da Timberwolves over the bulls!!! :happy1: :happy1:.........................Correct
Glenn,
You best get some better bookies udder den da one yer usin! :bonk:
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Git yer popnuts and peacorn here! Hot and fresh! Step right up!!! :popcorn: :woot:
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vell 2 ouuta 3 aint bad!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: hey who sings that tune??????????? :scratch: :scratch:
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vell 2 ouuta 3 aint bad!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: hey who sings that tune??????????? :scratch: :scratch:
Ya mean Del's song? :scratch:
https://youtu.be/4rKz3G4ArpQ
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Have you been imbibing again Lee? :scratch:
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AFTER TA-MAR-RA!
Dis will be da new theme song for da Vikings fans! :happy1:
Da Town wid-out pity :rotflmao: A town in love wit da Vikings :bonk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkcvQQTe9Mw
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Or.......🏈 🐻
https://youtu.be/2Ko9TpduOhE
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I figured dat I would be remiss if I failed to bring my friends from da Nort some viewing enjoyment, as dem guys deserve to take der minds off day after ta-mar-as game.
Just sit back, relax, pop a cold one, and :.... (crap :moon:) in yer pants while you discover how great "DA Bears" :blues brothers: actually are!
I would venture to say dat 90% of yous' won't be able ta handle watchin da whole video. Da udder 10% would-a already passed out after viewing da first 10 minutes.
Note: ....
Click on da watch on You Tube (to view)
:popcorn: .....
What you see is what you get! training-087 On Sunday. :happy1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scxzKt7rfxs
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I figured dat I would be remiss if I failed to bring my friends from da Nort some viewing enjoyment, as dem guys deserve to take der minds off day after ta-mar-as game.
What you see is what you get! training-087 On Sunday. :happy1:
Apparently the confusion is running rampant in da Bears camp....ie; everything is "normal"... :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Oh, the game IS Sunday...day after ta-mar-a..... ;)
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I have to admit, I watched it Lee.
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I have to admit, I watched it Lee.
Reb,
I was gunna post some a dem Bucs highlights fer ya, :bow: But day ain't none :doah:
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HEY! :taz: As Lee would say.....
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Pain and destruction is on da way to Viking Land. Once da game is over on Sunday you may want ta call.... 1-(800) Vikes suck. Day will try ta give ya some needed support.
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awe...…...go play wit your nite crawlers!!!!!!!! :mooning: :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: dem bears are gonna go back to Chicago wit dare widdle tails between there legs...…….den da following week dere gonna be sooooo scared when da Vikings plane lands theres gonna be a toosommy in lake Michigan!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Think it'll end up reminding me of what happened to "Ted" in the movie.... :evil: ;)
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:reporter; Bears favored by 5.5 :cheerleader:
After you figure in da MINN "fear factor" :scratch: Who knows how high it will go :confused:
https://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/chicago-minnesota-odds-december-30-2018-971852
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:reporter; Bears favored by 5.5 :cheerleader:
After you figure in da MINN "fear factor" :scratch: Who knows how high it will go :confused:
https://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/chicago-minnesota-odds-december-30-2018-971852
:tut: :tut: :tut: :tut:
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:reporter; ....Minnesota Vikings .....Breaking News...Some guy named Rudolph.... ("da red nose reindeer")... will be out wit da flu today! :confused:
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Is this Bears propaganda?
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I believe it's called "Fake News".......................................
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:reporter; Bears favored by 5.5 :cheerleader:
After you figure in da MINN "fear factor" :scratch: Who knows how high it will go :confused:
https://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/chicago-minnesota-odds-december-30-2018-971852
Not so fast buck-O!
Home field and 4.5 for Viks! :moon:
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yea ole Lee....thee one and only pot stirrer!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :tut: :tut: :tut: :happy1: :bonk: :rotflmao:
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:pouty: :pouty: I know personally I'm about fed up with these announcers being so anti Vikings to the point it's friggin pathetic. :mad1: :mad1: :mad1:
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I have been for along time, but at this point the vikes dont deserve to go any further..
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:pouty: :pouty: I know personally I'm about fed up with these announcers being so anti Vikings to the point it's friggin pathetic. :mad1: :mad1: :mad1:
Be glad Michaels wasn't in there! He's a known Vikings hater! Aikman is just a flappy-lipped all about me know it all....................IMO. Never liked him. Shoulda stayed down south.
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I have been for along time, but at this point the vikes dont deserve to go any further..
I agree boober!! And I think cousins git paid 83 million way to much. Seen a stat he is 4-24 against teams with a winning record
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I understand the ViQueens have a defense....wonder why they didn't show for this game? :scratch: :angry2:
Gotta agree with Bobber...they wouldn't have gone anywhere, anyway. If the Vikings thru the years have been one thing, it's inconsistent.
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:pouty: :pouty: I know personally I'm about fed up with these announcers being so anti Vikings to the point it's friggin pathetic. :mad1: :mad1: :mad1:
Be glad Michaels wasn't in there! He's a known Vikings hater! Aikman is just a flappy-lipped all about me know it all....................IMO. Never liked him. Shoulda stayed down south.
Said it before, I'll say it again...
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Chuck the bunch. Wish Chucky was still a commentator!
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With rooster chasing all but over with and no purple to watch, it's time to fish...
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Who's fired first I wonder..
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Will never happen but if I had to pick 2 people to go it would be Zimmer and Cousins. Zim is a great D coach but head coach is over his head. Who ever hired De filipi should go too. Cousins is way over his head too. Not QB material.
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My opinion. The special teams coach. He has ruin more place kickers. Then it needs a huge revamp of the O- line. O coordinator should stay. No other changes needed. Super bowl or bust next year.
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With rooster chasing all but over with and no purple to watch, it's time to fish...
Gotta look at last week and the weekend as a whole here. The purple were shaky all year as they showed early on in their loss to Buffalo. I mentioned it way back when I said their season would hinge on this game. Prophetic bastard, ain't I? :sleazy:
Annaway, water over the dam. Lotsa good MN sports to follow. Gopher football munched Georgia Tech. While I'm not a fan of the rah-rah stuff that Fleck does, I can't argue with success either. Gopher men's BB got Eric Curry back on the floor today. Big brace on his knee. Even though they played Mt. St. Mary's, he looked better than I expected, 4 pts. & 6 boards. They may surprise, they may disappoint but they have talent and are deeper than last year. They were a helluva a lot more fun to watch than the Vikes today. The Gopher women's BB might be the team to watch tho. Ranked #12. 12-0 and haven't played all schlubs either. They pounded Bucky 74-56 Friday nite to start the B1G season. Lindsay Whalen has them playing D and for someone who's never coached you'd never know it. Was a fan back when Whalen played for the Gophers, when she played for the Lynx, and still am. Livestream most of the games that aren't on network TV and that's a lot of them. Gopher hockey split. Still trying to develop an identity. I hope Motzco kicks some @sses after their lackluster performance against Ferris St. & losing at home Saturday nite. Still too much of Donnie & Guentzel's influence. 14 pretty passes, no shots on goal to show for it, then let 'em go down the ice & score on ya. Shoot the damn puck and hit the bastards on defense rather than watching them skate by! :rotflmao:
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Hey Dotch, :offtopic: :offtopic: start a gophers thread of your own. :happy1: :tut: this is a vikes Dore loser thread. :rotflmao:
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go Dotch!!
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I love billiards...anyone wanna play pool? $20 a game...that's a sport!
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I love billiards...anyone wanna play pool? $20 a game...that's a sport!
huh??? :offtopic:
Ok but $ 30 bucks a game foosball!! :sleazy:
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I love billiards...anyone wanna play pool? $20 a game...that's a sport!
used too back when I played a ton!!! :happy1:
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This oughtta get Glenn revved up. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
OK; back to the *GAG* Vikes.
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This oughtta get Glenn revved up. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
OK; back to the *GAG* Vikes.
yea yea pools for people that figure out eye hand coordination with foosball
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Wow. Kinda schocked. Watching the Sunday nite game, half time portion. They talked about head coaches, they think/ figure ok Zimmer may be on the block. :confused: well if he goes so should the GM, Speilman.
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bring it sucka! :smoking: :rotflmao:
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Ya, we might as well finish off THIS thread!!! No need to keep it going!! :rotflmao:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2813253-mike-zimmer-says-he-wont-resign-or-retire-as-vikings-hc-after-missing-playoffs
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2018/12/30/18162051/vikings-stink-it-up-at-home-to-end-a-season-of-disappointment
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May as well hang up my 22 Smith jersey for the year. I can't wait to listen to KFAN. I am going to push the 6 banger Ford to get to Spee Dee and then back home quick.
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Next year...always next year... :pouty:
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I ain't gonna say I told ya.....OH HELL I AIN'T......"I TOLD YA!"
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looks like 3 teams are already looking for new head coaches.....cinncy, Denver and Miami!!!!!!
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And Jets head coach is gone.
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Since has been cheese heads seam to filter this way.... hey what's McCarthy up too.. :rotflmao:
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Been waiting to hear where he ends up.
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Since has been cheese heads seam to filter this way.... hey what's McCarthy up too.. :rotflmao:
Heard this mornin that him & Oklahoma's coach are expected to be doin a lot of interviews. At least 9 jobs opening up, some estimating as many as 12
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Oofda....
https://nypost.com/2018/12/31/kirk-cousins-is-an-84-million-disaster-for-vikings/
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He'll be hearing a lot of that all off season. If they don't upgrade the O line it won't matter who's standing back there. Defense wasn't near as good as last season either IMO.
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Good article Rebs. Hit the nail right on the head. Keenum was a fighter and got the job done. Cousins is a pansy and can't handle things when they get tough...
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I think you and I agreed about that earlier this season...and I couldn't understand them dumping Keenum, he just needed seasoning, IMO. My take was he (Cousins) looked "scared" out there. I don't think he's a hardcore type enough (like a Rothlisberger) to get the job done. Kinda reminds me of a sophomore first time starting Qback in HS......and I agree with Gunner, their De sucks! All year, IMO. I never saw any really good Qback sacks handed out by them...........but, there were a lot of other probs too. They just never really "jelled"all season long. I haveta say it...typical ViQueens! :rolleyes:
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I thought the D did pretty good. I think they had the most sacks of any team or maybe second. They were on the field a lot and looking at Cousins as the QB knowing he isn't going to finish the game. That has to be disheartening. Cousins record is something like 4 wins and 26 losses to teams with above 50/50 record. That is pathetic.
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Huh! Yer right on the sacks, they had 50...! SO, don't know where I was... :doofus:
My kookalations place them third in the league for sacks....guess I better go and play wid my little Smokies for tonite and leave the Football to you. :rotflmao:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/defense
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Right you are, 4-25 for his career against teams with winning records. :bonk: Keenum was so much more mobile than Cousins along with Remers & Compton pretty much stinkin it up all season in front of him. If they don't try to upgrade the line through the draft & free agency, that young Bears D is going to eat Cousins alive.
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Word is da Vikes are having some heavy-duty talks with Hue Jackson, formally of the Browns, for their O coordinator.......stay tuned....
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I like Stefanski but the way they treated him I don't think he will stay here.
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Hard to say.
There are only 32 Offensive Coordinator jobs in the NFL and only 32 Head Coaching jobs.
I'd think a wise man could swallow his pride and accept the one that is the best career fit for him.
How many head coaches have the Browns sent through their revolving door?
Sure, Stefanski is interviewing for a head coaching job - and I hope he gets it that's what he wants. But on the other hand, if he isn't ready for all that and the Browns fire him after a couple of years, is he better off? Maybe, it depends on his next job, I guess.
Is DeFilippo better off by going from being a quarterback's coach to Offensive Coordinator, but getting fired before the season is done? It depends on his next job.
I'll expose my homerism here... I wish Stefanski the best, whether its here or elsewhere. I don't give a rat's patootie what happens to DeFillippo. And I hope the Vikings get their offense coaching squared away to the point where the team is living up to their full potential.
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:sorry: Guys! But it seems dat as I've become a member of da ageing population. I loose track of some stuff. :crazy: As we enter da stage of da football playoffs I'm a bit confused. :confused: I'm trying to find what team da vikes are playing dis weekend? Also are day at home or on da road? Last but not least what's da update on der injury report fur dis weeks game.
I know dat dem guys had a lot of injuries last week after day played that udder team. I can't remember who day played but I heard dat day got der :moon: kicked! :sad:
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oh LEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty: :pouty: I found there weekend schedule real easy. there gonna be playing at this place called Largo...………...you know TRUMPS golf course in florida!!!!!!!!!! :mooning: :mooning: :moon:
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https://youtu.be/Ru2tsT32pHA
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Make sense to me.
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Special teams is already practicing.....:doah:
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I think the Vikings should draft the whole Alabama offensive line.
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That Clemson line ain't to shabby either!
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I heard glenn came up with a new Minnesota football hat... ;)
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Heard it on CCO the other day & haven't seen anything here so thought I'd bring it up. What do you think of Gary Kubiak as assistant head coach & offensive advisor for Zimmer? :scratch:
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:happy1: :happy1: can't hurt. Better then flippo!
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What about Stefanski? Thought his title was OC. :scratch:
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What about Stefanski? Thought his title was OC. :scratch:
yea he still is.
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Not sure what to think yet.
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Watched a little of Kiper's & McShay's mock draft on ESPN last night & they had 'em taking an OT from Ole Miss in the 1st round. :scratch:
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Ya I don't know what to think about this Kubiak thing. Sounds like they are already watering down Stefanski's job to me. Who knows Kubiak may be our next head coach. They also hired his son for QB coach.
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Seen that too. :confused:
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Ya I don't know what to think about this Kubiak thing. Sounds like they are already watering down Stefanski's job to me. Who knows Kubiak may be our next head coach. They also hired his son for QB coach.
speilman best be the first one out the door ahead of Zimmer if kubiak becomes head coach.
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I gotta believe it is Zim's idea. I think Zim is looking for his football soul mate after Tony Sparano died. Its not like Spielman is going to hire another OC right after he just hired one.
I also heard - if you believe what they say on the radio - that Stephanski and the Kubiaks go way back, so you might not have to worry about these guys not being on the same page.
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Just read where Stefanski & Kubiak's boy were together with the Vikes in 2013-14. Mentioned bringing his TE & OL coaches with him too.
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:reporter; Vikings pick up option on Bears Kicker!
2/15/19
Say what......? :scratch: I'll say it twice...."Vikings pick up option on Bears Kicker." :doah:
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Mac Percival? :rotflmao:
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:reporter; Vikings pick up option on Bears Kicker!
2/15/19
Say what......? :scratch: I'll say it twice...."Vikings pick up option on Bears Kicker." :doah:
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Is this true or a joke? Just wondering. We should have kept Carlson and given him a chance.
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I think it's a joke. Bears don't want him either. Just Lee jerking our chain. The special teams coach they had is gone. Story had it he liked messing with the kickers mechanics.
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I wondered since there aren't many kickers that are good enough to hit a target like an upright 4 times in one game.
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:reporter; Agent: Vikings WR Thielen won't hold out for contract :Clap:
By Field Level Media Today at 1:16 p.m.
:coffee: ....
Minnesota Vikings wide receiver Adam Thielen walks to the sidelines during the second quarter of the NFL Pro Bowl football game at Camping World Stadium Jan. 19. Reinhold Matay / USA TODAY Sports
Wide receiver Adam Thielen's $5.85 million salary for 2019 puts him among the lowest-paid No. 1 receivers on any team.
And with two years left on the four-year, $19.25 million contract he signed in 2017, the Minnesota Vikings might consider trying to extend the contract of the productive 28-year-old wideout. Or they could wait.
His agent, Blake Baratz, told SKOR North radio in the Twin Cities on Tuesday that Thielen will not hold out to force the Vikings to the negotiating table.
"Adam's not that type of person," Baratz said. "I would never condone a player to hold out or be disruptive if it wasn't for a very valid reason, and (what's not) a valid reason, to me, is both sides working in good faith to come to a conclusion that makes sense for everybody."
The Vikings signed Thielen, who played collegiately at Minnesota State, as an undrafted free agent in 2013. He has played in all 80 games (46 starts) over five seasons and has caught 293 passes for 3,897 yards and 19 touchdowns.
In 2018, he had career highs in receptions (113), yards (1,373) and TDs (nine). The Detroit Lakes, Minn., native is a two-time Pro Bowl selection.
"This team has a lot of really good things in place for it, and I know they want to take care of Adam and I know they want Adam there and I know they want to reward Adam," Baratz said.
"What exactly that looks like and when that happens, I can't speak to yet, but I'm cautiously optimistic that everyone will come around and do the right thing.
"There's not -- no one's being greedy. Everyone understands the situation and it's really in their court. He has a couple of years left on his deal, but he's earned a significant pay raise. Not to mention what he's done on the field, he might be one of the best people in the entire National Football League and represents the city and the organization and state and frankly, the entire region unbelievably." :Clap:
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dats just da way us minnesodain born and raised fellers are. good hard workin honest fellers!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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there ya go.crop.dusting again.....
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there ya go.crop.dusting again.....
awe go stick your head in the mailbox!!!!!!!!!!!! :moon: :moon: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: ya might just locate a few things!!!!!!!!!!!! :sleazy: :sleazy: :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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dats just da way us minnesodain born and raised fellers are. good hard workin honest fellers!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
Ya!!!! :happy1:
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I'd put those union pot stirrer's towards the bottom of my list. :scratch: Chargin granny next door to blow her snow. :tut: :thumbs: :rolleyes: ;) :laugh:
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I'd put those union pot stirrer's towards the bottom of my list. :scratch: Chargin granny next door to blow her snow. :tut: :thumbs: :rolleyes: ;) :laugh:
:tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: granny........... :tut: :tut: not hardly............my kids are more then likely older then her!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ohh....so now going after the young stuff, are ya? :tut:
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Ohh....so now going after the young stuff, are ya? :tut:
:nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :cool:
of legal age!!!!!!!!!!! oh and just being a good neighbor!!!!!!!!!!!
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And you talk about me and Ms. Hot 'n fluffy next door??!??!?!? :mooning:
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I see where ESPN's reporting that they announced the extension of Zimmer's contract another year yesterday at the combine.
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well he better have a winning season or he might be.lookin for.work
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8-7-1 what more could we want? :rolleyes: :smiley:
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personally i think its a good move.......speilman on the other hand>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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It certainly is an interesting move.
Everyone was worried about Kubiak taking Stafanski's job away from him. What if the real move was to have Kubiak on staff to take Zimmer's job, should the team under-perform for Zim again.
Zim's one year extension really doesn't constitute much extra job security. AND Spielman and the Wilf's will have a year or two to evaluate Kubiak in-house.
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The article I read said that just about all the HC's that enter the season on the final year of their contract aren't back the next year. :scratch:
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I see where Sendejo & Remmers have been released :happy1: & Barr is on his way to the NYJ. Not sure :scratch: but don't think they can actually sign anybody 'til tomorrow.
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I liked Sendejo.
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I thought he played OK too, must've thought it was goin to cost too much to sign him. :confused: He'll probably catch on somewhere else. Glad to see Remmers gone though, he hasn't played very good for the last 2 seasons but he's been hurt a lot too.
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Just read that Richardson may be going to the Browns.
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He played good for them IMO, was a 1 year deal, must be > $ to resign
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I thought they were going to want to keep him.
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Hard to pay other players when your quarterback makes $84 Mil - guaranteed.
It looks like the formula for winning in the NFL is to...
A) Have Tom Brady
A1) Tank.
B) Draft a franchise rookie QB you can pay (relative) peanuts to.
C) Get good at all the other positions
D) Avoid "head case" players who sit out, demand trades, and only return pennies on the dollar when you finally have to dump them.
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Totally agree on Cousins, Steve-O, he didn't come close to playing up to that contract. :thumbs: :pouty: However there are 8 others on the team making >$ 10 mil/per & 6 of those are on Zimm's defense. :crazy: I think they had a down year as well & part of that was because they were on the field way too much. :sad:
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Totally agree on Cousins, Steve-O, he didn't come close to playing up to that contract.
Still, I think it was a decent, high priced gamble that is mitigated by Cousins' relatively short contract duration. It is hard to know how much of Cousins' deficiencies were of his own doing, weak offensive line/running game play, or ineffective offensive coordinator leadership.
- Cousins can be second guessed because he really isn't any more effective for us than he was for Washington; good numbers, but few wins.
- Zim can be second guessed because he can't get the offensive coordinator to be on the same page as him.*
- Spielman can be second guessed because he could have rolled with Keenum one more year and waited for someone like Nick Foles or someone else to become available this year.
Still, if Cousins/Stefanski/Kubiak can work together to make Cousins more successful, if Spielman can somehow shore up the offensive line, and if Zim can coach up replacements for the defenders he is losing, I like our chances...
But its too bad 'cause I like da' Bears chances even better than ours. :blues brothers:
* It will also be interesting to see how DeFilippo does for the Jaguars next season.
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Totally agree on Cousins, Steve-O, he didn't come close to playing up to that contract.
Still, I think it was a decent, high priced gamble that is mitigated by Cousins' relatively short contract duration. It is hard to know how much of Cousins' deficiencies were of his own doing, weak offensive line/running game play, or ineffective offensive coordinator leadership.
- Cousins can be second guessed because he really isn't any more effective for us than he was for Washington; good numbers, but few wins.
- Zim can be second guessed because he can't get the offensive coordinator to be on the same page as him.*
- Spielman can be second guessed because he could have rolled with Keenum one more year and waited for someone like Nick Fowls or someone else to become available this year.
Still, if Cousins/Stefanski/Kubiak can work together to make Cousins more successful, if Spielman can somehow shore up the offensive line, and if Zim can coach up replacements for the defenders he is losing, I like our chances...
But its too bad 'cause I like da' Bears chances even better than ours. :blues brothers:
* It will also be interesting to see how DeFilippo does for the Jaguars next season.
Now there's a man dat's in touch wit reality! :bow:
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Packers bolster defense with edge rusher Za'Darius Smith, safety Adrian Amos
Figured I'd post dis on da Vikes thread just ta piss off da Viking fans! :rotflmao:
GREEN BAY – Waiting until the first wave of free agency rolled through the NFL on Monday, Green Bay Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst jumped in with both feet, signing a pair of defensive starters Tuesday.
Baltimore edge rusher Za’Darius Smith and Chicago safety Adrian Amos agreed to terms on contracts with the Packers on Tuesday morning.
Both signings were reported first by NFL Network and the PackersNews.com confirmed Amos’ signing.
The Packers are counting on Smith to start at outside linebacker in either Clay Matthews' or Nick Perry’s spot. Matthews is an unrestricted free agent and the Packers are expected to release Perry later in the week.
Smith, 26, bounced back from a pair of unremarkable seasons to finish with 8½ sacks for the Ravens in a contract year. The 2015 fourth-round selection had 5½ sacks his rookie year but just 4½ the next two.
In 2018, he had a breakout season, leading the Ravens in sacks, quarterback hits (25, including sacks) and finishing second in tackles for loss (10). He finished tied for sixth in tackles.
The Packers need the 6-4, 274-pound Smith to be more than just a pass rusher, although hitting quarterbacks will be his No. 1 duty. At the combine four years ago, he ran an impressive 40-yard dash in 4.83 seconds and benched 225 pounds 23 times.
Defensive coordinator Mike Pettine will have to find out whether Smith can help him at outside linebacker or simply as an edge rusher in nickel situations. Smith was a defensive end in college at Kentucky.
The signing means that Gutekunst doesn’t necessarily have to draft an edge rusher with the No. 12 pick in the 2019 draft. It’s very possible there will be a pass rusher available at that pick and Gutekunst probably wouldn’t pass on him, but he has the option of taking the best player available and waiting until later to take another pass rusher.
In Amos, the Packers are getting a mid-level starter who started all 16 games last year and had 73 tackles, a sack and two interceptions. He also had nine pass break-ups and a forced fumble.
At the combine in 2015, the 6-foot, 218-pound Amos ran the 40-yard dash in 4.56 seconds and registered a 35 1/2 -inch vertical leap.
Amos, a fifth-round pick, played second fiddle to safety Eddie Jackson on the Bears’ outstanding defense. Jackson made more big plays than Amos, who in four years has just three interceptions.
The Packers will expect him to start, but they are still going to have to make another move at the position because they do not have an established ballhawk in the deep middle. It’s possible they’ll move cornerback Josh Jackson to safety, but he would need a lot of training.
It’s unclear whether the Packers have submitted a restricted free agent tender on safety Kentrell Brice, who has battled ankle injuries the last two seasons. Brice would make $2.025 million if the tender is made and so with this signing it’s possible the Packers will take a pass.
Josh Jones, a second-round pick in 2017, remains an option at safety, too. Pettine also could keep cornerback Tramon Williams at safety after the veteran bailed him out last year when injuries struck the position.
This article originally appeared on Packers News: Packers bolster defense with edge rusher Za'Darius Smith, safety Adrian Amos
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... and waited for someone like Nick Foles or someone else to become available this year.
The cost of quarterbacking is going up... Nick got $88 Mil with incentives going to $102 Mil over 4 years with $50 Mil guaranteed to play for the Jags.
...And Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan will both make more than Foles and Cousins to resign with their teams.
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I will be sticking pins in my Trubisky doll... :rotflmao:
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Just seen Barr is sticking with the Vikings, not signing with the Jets. Look out baby tubby. :sleazy:
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IMO if we don't do a major OL upgrade we're doomed for a repeat. :thumbs: :pouty: FA's or draft :scratch:, probably need help from both. :sad:
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Right on Gunner.
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I seen 1 report that it wasn't until Barr heard that the NYJ planned to use him as an edge rusher that he changed his mind. Another said him leavin was just a ploy to get a better deal with the Vikings & that is why none of the details of his deal with them were ever released. :confused: Think they used up most, if not all, of their cap space to sign him so it'll be interesting to see how they go about the OL issues.
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i heard he took less money to stay with the vikings???????????
suxs to hear murray left!!!!!!!!!! :confused: :confused: liked him as a running back.
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Yep, and Murray was a good interview on the radio; very well spoken and candid.
Cook better be healthy and productive this year.
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AND the fact that he is a good interview makes me like him even better. Intelligent fellow. On the other hand Treadwell can't hardly read and write, or talk with much correct grammar. That worries me. And it should worry him too. Get back to school Laquon.
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On the other hand Treadwell ...
I posted Cordarelle Patterson's receiving stats over on the Bears' thread. Cordarelle was no world beater, but compared to Laquon...
Treadwell:
2016, Vikings, 1 catch, 15 yards, catch percentage 33.3%
2017, Vikings, 20 catch, 200 yards, catch percentage 51.7%
2018, Vikings, 35 catch, 302 yards, catch percentage 66.0%
The only difference between Treadwell and Patterson, is that Treadwell's numbers are trending up.
That and Treadwell is cheap. Laquon is still on his rookie deal and Patterson just signed for $10 Mil wit' 'da Bears. :blues brothers: Good luck.
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i heard he took less money to stay with the vikings???????????
suxs to hear murray left!!!!!!!!!! :confused: :confused: liked him as a running back.
I never heard any #'s on the NYJ's offer, I see now they're reporting it was for $14-$15/ per. His new deal with the Vikes could be worth $77.5 mil after incentives. Might be a longer deal now or more guaranteed too. Havta agree on Murray. :sad:
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They must not of wanted Murray back :pouty: :thumbs: as I did some checking, he made $5 mil last season & signed for $14.4 for 4 with the Saints. Saints lost Ingram though too, sure that played into it.
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holy moley...........the vikings now have 1 offensive lineman that has a total of like 361 snaps of experience in the NFL on there roster.......... easton and compton signed elsewhere. hope cousins has good medical coverage. :doofus: :doofus: :doofus: :doofus:
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I hadn't heard that but I'm not real surprised as I'm not sure they really wanted them back. Especially with the amount of $'s it was going to take to sign 'em. Reiff & Elflein were by far the best on the OL last season anyway. Not sure :scratch: they can get enough help, as you need some depth too, in the draft & with FA's, hope so or 8-7-1 might look good to us next season. :pouty: :thumbs:
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Easton was hurt a lot last season, I see where he signed a 4 year deal with the Saints.
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I heard they finally drafted a new kicker, with what the budget allowed.....
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well.................while you guyz are making fun of da vikings kickers............i'll report real news. :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: seen where they signed a running back from detroit?? sounded like he was in minnesota once, i dont remember dat?????????
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Do I haveta do everything around here???!! :confused: :rotflmao:
https://www.vikings.com/news/minnesota-vikings-sign-ameer-abdullah
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Abdullah started last season on Detroit's team and played in 3 games. He had 1 rush for 1 yard and 3 catches for 38 yards.
Vikes picked him up and he played in 7 games. He had 1 catch for 10 yards.
He also returned 14 punts total for both teams last year.
He should get a chance to play more for the Vikes now that Latavius Murray has moved on.
But he - or Cook - won't have a chance unless Spielman figures out how to rebuild the O line through the draft and what is left of their salary cap money.
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:reporter;
Breaking News!...Breaking News!..Breaking
News!...Breaking News!
Da Chicago Bears are considering purchasing Da Minnesota Vikings. Da plan is ta use da vikes as a practice squad. It seems dat Da Bears have been spending a lot of money replacing all of der exploding tackling dummies. Day figured it would be much cheaper just ta use da X Vikings players fur practice. Dis way day kin just tro um away after a few tackles!
"Da Bears" :blues brothers:
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And awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay we go....................................
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We need to get the phone number of those party girls for Lee. :sleazy:
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We need to get the phone number of those party girls for Lee. :sleazy:
Ya, Bertha Butt ....one of the Butt sisters. :censored:
https://youtu.be/BCV6paTXyCU
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Sherel's leaving........ :doah:
https://www.kaaltv.com/sports/rochester-minnesota-native-marcus-sherels-leaving-the-vikings-for-the-new-orleans-saints-nfl-football/5287709/?cat=10151
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Seen that to. Really suxs!
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We need to get the phone number of those party girls for Lee. :sleazy:
Ya, Bertha Butt ....one of the Butt sisters. :censored:
https://youtu.be/BCV6paTXyCU
Very thoughtful of jews guys! :doah:
Fortunately I have my own stable of ladies dat outclass yer scroungy offerings! :happy1:
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Sherel's leaving........ :doah:
https://www.kaaltv.com/sports/rochester-minnesota-native-marcus-sherels-leaving-the-vikings-for-the-new-orleans-saints-nfl-football/5287709/?cat=10151
Wondered :scratch: if he might not be after they re-signed Abdullah as that was his main duty last season when Sherels was hurt. I agree, hate to see him go, he did a good job, hardly fumbled, & was a Rochester native. Wasn't he? :scratch:
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Glad he is still playing but sad to see him go. He was almost cut every year but hung in there and was a positive member on the team. Good luck Marcus.
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Sherel's leaving........ :doah:
https://www.kaaltv.com/sports/rochester-minnesota-native-marcus-sherels-leaving-the-vikings-for-the-new-orleans-saints-nfl-football/5287709/?cat=10151
Wondered :scratch: if he might not be after they re-signed Abdullah as that was his main duty last season when Sherels was hurt. I agree, hate to see him go, he did a good job, hardly fumbled, & was a Rochester native. Wasn't he? :scratch:
Yup.Went to my old high school. :cheerleader:
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Seems like the Vikes are losing more than they're adding. :doah:
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He is a great guy. Hope him the best.
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where da hell is LEE!!!!!!!!!! :pouty: :confused: :confused: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
I see the vikings signed this Kline guy for the O-line!!!!!!
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Guessing he's still ogling yesterday's fishing pictures... :rotflmao:
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Guessing he's still ogling yesterday's fishing pictures... :rotflmao:
Either that or ogling the Bears' free agent acquisitions... :rolleyes:
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The Vikes had another OL here the other day after Kline. Never heard how that went.
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I see where they annouced Tuesday that they added another year to glenn's buddy contract. ;) ;D GM Speilman signed through 2020. I didn't see any other OL signings other than Kline, LPS. It said he wasn't rated the best but was at least able to be on the field for almost all the Dolphins games last year. That has been a big issue the last 2 seasons for OL IMO.
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It came across the TV last night where they signed Sean Mannion to back up Cousins. He was back up for the Rams the last 4 seasons.
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I hope that is a good thing. :happy1:
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It came across the TV last night where they signed Sean Mannion to back up Cousins. He was back up for the Rams the last 4 seasons.
You'll get yer first look at him during da first quarter of da Bears/Vikes game. Dat would be after Khalil Mack knocks Cousins out of da game!
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It came across the TV last night where they signed Sean Mannion to back up Cousins. He was back up for the Rams the last 4 seasons.
You'll get yer first look at him during da first quarter of da Bears/Vikes game. Dat would be after Khalil Mack knocks Cousins out of da game!
Mack is gonna get SMACKED before da vikes game and be in rehab so............................ :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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It came across the TV last night where they signed Sean Mannion to back up Cousins. He was back up for the Rams the last 4 seasons.
You'll get yer first look at him during da first quarter of da Bears/Vikes game. Dat would be after Khalil Mack knocks Cousins out of da game!
Mack is gonna get SMACKED before da vikes game and be in rehab so............................ :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Now dat's not a very neighborly attitude ta take! :pouty:
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It came across the TV last night where they signed Sean Mannion to back up Cousins. He was back up for the Rams the last 4 seasons.
You'll get yer first look at him during da first quarter of da Bears/Vikes game. Dat would be after Khalil Mack knocks Cousins out of da game!
:tut: So who's Trubitsky's back up? :scratch: :evil: Guess we'll find out Hunter & Griffen knock him :crazy:
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It came across the TV last night where they signed Sean Mannion to back up Cousins. He was back up for the Rams the last 4 seasons.
You'll get yer first look at him during da first quarter of da Bears/Vikes game. Dat would be after Khalil Mack knocks Cousins out of da game!
:tut: So who's Trubitsky's back up? :scratch: :evil: Guess we'll find out Hunter & Griffen knock him :crazy:
I tink it would be just a direct snap ta Mack as he would love ta multi-task and ram through da MN. 7 walls of silly putty :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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It came across the TV last night where they signed Sean Mannion to back up Cousins. He was back up for the Rams the last 4 seasons.
You'll get yer first look at him during da first quarter of da Bears/Vikes game. Dat would be after Khalil Mack knocks Cousins out of da game!
:tut: So who's Trubitsky's back up? :scratch: :evil: Guess we'll find out Hunter & Griffen knock him :crazy:
That's right, it's still that Chase guy isn't it? Wonder :scratch: how fast he is? :sleazy: :sleazy: :mooning: ;) :smiley:
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:reporter;.... Adam Thielen agrees to four-year extension :happy1:
:coffee: ....
Vikings receiver Adam Thielen has agreed to a four-year extension, Thielen’s agent, Blake Baratz, posted on social media Friday. The deal is worth $64 million with a max of $74 million.
:popcorn: ....
Thielen will get $35 million guaranteed, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Media.
Thielen was entering the third season of a four-year, $19.246 million base deal, and Baratz said in February he was confident of getting an extension worked out with the Vikings for Thielen.
Thielen, 28, has 293 receptions for 3,897 yards and 19 touchdowns in his five seasons. He topped the 1,000-yard mark each of the past two seasons and earned Pro Bowl honors both years.
Thielen caught 113 passes for 1,373 yards and nine touchdowns last season in playing all 16 games.
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:Clap: Good to hear, hes one of the handful that plays with a lot of heart.
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:happy1: Glad to hear this, I didn't think it was going to be a problem as he wanted to stay & they wanted to keep him. Still :cool: to hear they got it done. :smiley:
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yup good thing!
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Quality attitude! Great guy.
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Yep dat guys a play maker dat's fur sure. Always appreciated his effort. Especially in crunch time. :happy1:
note: (except when day play "Da Bears") :blues brothers:
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Don't get me wrong, I like Thielen a lot, but its too bad he isn't 350 lbs and can block.
Just sayin'
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they zhould hqve offerd thor bjornson the mkh tain a job wen he was here.
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they zhould hqve offerd thor bjornson the mkh tain a job wen he was here.
I wish HD would get dat dam spellcheck fixed! :angry2:
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they zhould hqve offerd thor bjornson the mkh tain a job wen he was here.
I wish HD would get dat dam spellcheck fixed! :angry2:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: so you flunked boaranze?!
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I passed it. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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April 26, 2019 12:31 AM
EAGAN, Minn. (AP) - The Minnesota Vikings selected North Carolina State center Garrett Bradbury with the 18th overall pick in the NFL draft on Thursday night, using their first-rounder on an offensive lineman for the first time in seven years.
With the front five again their position of greatest need , the Vikings could hardly have had the board fall to them any better. Alabama tackle Jonah Williams, who could wind up as a guard in the NFL, was the first blocker off the board at No. 11 to Cincinnati. Boston College guard Chris Lindstrom went to Atlanta at No. 14.
Then the Vikings had their pick of the rest, with Florida tackle Jawaan Taylor, Oklahoma tackle Cody Ford and Washington State tackle Andre Dillard all available.
With the 6-foot-3, 306-pound Bradbury, the Vikings got a mobile anchor and a natural fit with the zone-blocking scheme they'll be favoring to try to generate more of a running game and keep the pressure off quarterback Kirk Cousins. Pat Elflein, who has been the starting center since being Minnesota's third-round draft pick in 2017, becomes a strong candidate to move to guard, his primary college position.
The Vikings did not go with another cornerback. General manager Rick Spielman even joked this week at his pre-draft news conference that his wife told him not to come home if the Vikings were to use that precious first-rounder on another player at the head coach's favorite position, where Mike Zimmer has helped develop several draft picks into standouts over the last five seasons.
Last year, the Vikings passed on a deep class of interior offensive linemen to take cornerback Mike Hughes out of Central Florida with the 30th overall pick. Hughes showed plenty of promise , returning an interception for a touchdown in his NFL debut, but he tore the ACL in his left knee six games into his rookie season.
With Hughes coming off his injury, Holton Hill suspended for the first four games this year and Trae Waynes entering the final season of his contract, cornerback wouldn't have been an indulgent selection. But the need up front, after a so-so first season under Cousins, was too glaring to ignore.
The only other time in the 13 drafts the Vikings have had with Spielman that they made an offensive lineman their first pick was 2012, when tackle Matt Kalil went to them at No. 4 overall. He made the Pro Bowl as a rookie, but his five-year tenure with the team was mixed at best. That was the first draft with Spielman as the final decision-maker. When he was vice president of player personnel before his promotion, Spielman shared authority with the head coach.
The Vikings have only used a first-round selection on an offensive lineman three times in the past 30 years: Kalil, Bryant McKinnie (2002) and Todd Steussie (1994). They were each picked for at least one Pro Bowl. Two of the three others taken in the first round in Vikings history, Randall McDaniel (1988) and Ron Yary (1968), are Pro Football Hall of Fame members.
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:cool: Watched the video of Zimmer's news conference after the pick & he seemed very high on 'em. Athletic, quick, tough, & smart were all adjectives used to describe him more than once. :applause: :happybounce: :happybounce: He kinda joked with reporters about not takin a corner 2 or 3 times. Was wonderin :scratch: who was most likely to stay at center too, Bradbury or Elfein? :confused:
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Would like to see that Gunner. Looks like Elfein will go to guard which is what he played in college. I didn't know that. He did a great job at Center.
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Yeah, I wasn't aware that he played mostly guard in college either LPS. Thought he did such a good job at center as a rookie that it was his normal position, then he got hurt last season. :sad:
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The Minnesota Vikings selected North Carolina State center Garrett Bradbury with the 18th overall pick in the NFL draft on Thursday night...
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Rounds 2 & 3 tonight starting at 6. They go faster now than they did last night. SO Chicago didn't have a pick last night due to the trade to get Mack. Saturday it gets started at 11 am I believe. We pick at 50 but you never know when a deal will be made to move up some. I will keep an eye on it as long as the wife allows it. LOL She is a huge Vikes fan like me so she is pretty good about it.
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https://youtu.be/EVU9HHS0ftk Check these Bradbury highlights.
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listening to my favorite radio station driving in this morning, bob sansavere was on and talking about this guy. they said the only knock hereally had was he gets called for holding frequently.
Michelle Tafoya is on that morning show a fair amount too, but wasnt this morning.
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I usually have KFAN on. Sometimes I listen to old 1500 KSTP which then went to ESPN and is now SKOR North. Don't know what that means. Some one must have bought them out or they just joined another group. ???
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The article I read said he played TE in high school & started 13 games at guard his 1st season at NC St..
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I read that he started every game with no injury time outs in college. That is a plus. Also he graduated in 3 years since he is very smart and got his degree earlier.
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I read that he started every game with no injury time outs in college. That is a plus. Also he graduated in 3 years since he is very smart and got his degree earlier.
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Looks like we got a TE tonight.
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A RB from Boise St too in the 3rd round
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http://www.startribune.com/four-trades-mean-vikings-will-start-saturday-with-nine-more-picks/509150632/
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I see where they got a tackle, guard, & a couple WR's later on. Read where they thought the guard could help right away but the tackle was expected to need a little work. Some depth was needed at WR :happy1: & maybe convince Treadwell that he needs to hold on to the freakin ball. :pouty:
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Someone needs to send Treadwell a jar of stickum. :rolleyes:
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Someone needs to send Treadwell a jar of stickum. :rolleyes:
:happy1: It looks like they might've given up on him. Seen yday where they opted out on signing him to a 5th year option, might be why they took a couple WR's late in the draft.
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:happy1: :happy1: Too bad for him too. Just didn't seem like he got it.
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Yah too bad. They definitely gave him plenty of opportunities.
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Yah too bad. They definitely gave him plenty of opportunities.
Size & speed but couldn't focus enough to hold on to the ball when they needed him too :scratch:. A first round pick too! :doah: Ouch! :bonk:
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I probably already said this but I am excited about the picks this year. Even our last picks are pretty smart guys that can maybe surprise us as back ups. I like Irv as a TE too. I think he will add a new dimension. AND the RB Mattison I guess is a tough guy to tackle. That all along with Bradbury is all positive for me. I'm thinking about 10 wins and that could win the division. Remember Chicago now has Patterson. Man I liked him although he wasn't the brightest bulb on the tree I guess. He could hurt us.
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Duluth, MN - A 7 year old boy was at the center of a court room drama yesterday when he challenged the court’s ruling of who should have custody of him.
The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents, and was initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with child custody law and regulation requiring that family unity be maintained to the highest degree possible.
The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beats him more than his parents, and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge then suggested that he should live with his grandparents, the boy cried and then stated they beat him also.
After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life for them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him.
After two recesses to check legal references and confer with the child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the Minnesota Vikings, whom the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone. #HookLineAndSinker
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Read a pc yday where they said it would've cost 'em> $10 mil to keep Treadwell, no wonder they're letting him walk. :crazy: :happy1:
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NFC North win totals: Vikings a sleeper! :rotflmao:
:coffee: .....
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/MIN/minnesota-vikings/
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Vikings will win back the division. Chicago has a good team but it will falter this year. Still a strong chance for no. 2 with the cheese heads no. 3. Detroit has a way's to go yet. SKOL!!!! good luck.
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Vikings will win back the division. Chicago has a good team but it will falter this year. Still a strong chance for no. 2 with the cheese heads no. 3. Detroit has a way's to go yet. SKOL!!!! good luck.
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Well I hope I'm right. The question mark will be our offensive line. Some improvement with the draft and we will see if they can make a difference this season. We have one of the best defenses in the NFL plus the best two recievers in the NFL as well. I'll give the bears credit for a great season last year though. Cousins had his first year with the Vikings and it's hard to step in and succeed as much as the fans would have wanted until he gets used to the offense. Still he had great numbers. good luck.
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Yup I agree RH. The D line is going to be awesome I think. The O line has to be an upgrade. Gonna be a great season. Got some great draft picks. :happy1: :happy1:
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Yup I agree RH. The D line is going to be awesome I think. The O line has to be an upgrade. Gonna be a great season. Got some great draft picks. :happy1: :happy1:
Got to agree, guys, they've got to be able to protect him & give the WR's a chance to get open. A better running game wouldn't hurt as they weren't very good at that last year either.
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Kubiak being there should make a difference too. He's been there done that.
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Yes, lets hope Kubiak and Stefanski and Zimmer are all on the same page and it is also the right page.
2 of the past 3 years this has not been the case.
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Exactly Snow. Lots of egos there. Hope they put them aside and kick some ass on the field.
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Try this out for a fun Vikes game. https://youtu.be/QSwTH8gCJHY
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https://youtu.be/Z690_JNJQdk This was one of my favorite seasons. Favre was great and the team loved him.
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That was a great game. Still think Favre was the best in the game even though I am a Viking game. good luck.
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This is the one with Brett fooling around before his second game with us. That is what got the team on the same level as him. He made it fun. https://youtu.be/do311h7D_B0
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Time to get it together, guys..............
EAGAN — Mike Zimmer looked on with exasperation during Wednesday’s Minnesota Vikings practice as the offense did pretty much whatever it wanted against his vaunted defense.
Whether it was because Kyle Rudolph tip-toed a touchdown reception in the back of the end zone or Adam Thielen caught one wide open, Zimmer was none too pleased with the overall effort of the D.
Less than a week into full practices it has become an alarming trend for Zimmer and instead of letting it fester, he took to the podium after Thursday’s walkthrough to voice his discontent.
“We need to play a lot better,” the Vikings’ head coach said. “I feel like the offense has got a lot of grit and fight, and I haven’t seen much out of the defense yet. That’s my major concern at this point.”
Maybe it shouldn’t come as a surprise that the offense has operated with more attention to detail. There are a lot of moving parts on that side of the ball, especially with offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski and adviser Gary Kubiak teaching a new scheme. For the offense, there’s no time for messing around with so much to learn and Week 1 a little more than a month away.
The defense, on the other hand, has been roughly the same thing for the past six years. Add in the fact that Minnesota finished in the Top 5 of total yards allowed for three straight years and switching it to autopilot from time to time seems understandable.
“As I’ve told a few of them, they’ve been together for quite a while now, and they think they’re pretty good, so maybe they just go out and practice and there’s no intensity level,” Zimmer said.
“They aren’t making mistakes because they’ve been in the same defense for six years now; it’s just a little bit of, maybe, complacency, like, ‘Hey. We are in the Top 5 in defense every year.’ ”
In the interest of fairness, the defense isn’t allowed to tackle during training camp, meaning the offense probably has at least a couple of extra seconds to work with on any given play.
There’s also the fact competition is scarce with most of the starters know exactly where they stand, whether it’s Linval Joseph at nose tackle, Everson Griffen and Danielle Hunter at defensive end, Eric Kendricks or Anthony Barr at linebacker, or Harrison Smith, Xavier Rhodes and Trae Waynes in the secondary.
“I just think they need to get more competitive,” he said. “We need to come out here and compete every day. In all the situations, the offense has won every time, so if they want to be great on defense, they’ve got to play with a chip on their shoulder. I haven’t really seen that yet.”
His players took the comments to heart, performing much better during Thursday’s practice, and owning their previous mishaps afterward.
“If he says we’ve got to step it up, we’ve got to step it up,” Rhodes said. “There were some things we needed to correct. We had some errors in some situations and periods of the practice.”
“He knows what it looks like when it’s right,” Smith added. “I think he was talking about a mentality and I think we’re going to get that right.”
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Zimmer wants a Super Bowl win bad. He said to a reporter that some coach will win a super bowl here and I want that coach to be me. He has the staff now, coaches now, and better players now. Can't afford to lose the close games we lost the last couple of years. good luck.
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Time to knuckle down and play every game like it's the last. No more of this chokin' and boo-boo's crap.
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i know all you auld pharts where more then likely in bed already :rotflmao: :rotflmao: but after the 10 pm news i watched on channel 4 a vikings training camp segment.
they interviewed Cousins, SPielman and Hunter. holy moly is that Hunter built like a freight train. no way would i wanna get tangled up with that dude.
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there first preseason game is this friday night a 7 pm.
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Thanks for the reminder Glen!! good luck.
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i know all you auld pharts where more then likely in bed already :rotflmao: :rotflmao: but after the 10 pm news i watched on channel 4 a vikings training camp segment.
they interviewed Cousins, SPielman and Hunter. holy moly is that Hunter built like a freight train. no way would i wanna get tangled up with that dude.
Seen it too, but it was Sunday morning. Probably before you were awake though :scratch:, 9 maybe 10. ;) :laugh:
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Vikes vs Saints. Predic: Ho-hum game. :coffee: 🏈
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i know all you auld pharts where more then likely in bed already :rotflmao: :rotflmao: but after the 10 pm news i watched on channel 4 a vikings training camp segment.
they interviewed Cousins, SPielman and Hunter. holy moly is that Hunter built like a freight train. no way would i wanna get tangled up with that dude.
Seen it too, but it was Sunday morning. Probably before you were awake though :scratch:, 9 maybe 10. ;) :laugh:
:tut: :tut: :tut: oh i was awake...........just not running at full capacity at that point!!!!!!! :mooning: :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Vikes vs Saints. Predic: Ho-hum game. :coffee: 🏈
so :tut: :tut: its football!!!!!!!!!!! :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :rocker; :rocker; :happybounce: :happybounce:
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What are you babbling about now?! :confused:
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i know all you auld pharts where more then likely in bed already :rotflmao: :rotflmao: but after the 10 pm news i watched on channel 4 a vikings training camp segment.
they interviewed Cousins, SPielman and Hunter. holy moly is that Hunter built like a freight train. no way would i wanna get tangled up with that dude.
It didn't say replay in real small letters up in the righthand corner, did it? :doah: :rolleyes: :rotflmao:
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i know all you auld pharts where more then likely in bed already :rotflmao: :rotflmao: but after the 10 pm news i watched on channel 4 a vikings training camp segment.
they interviewed Cousins, SPielman and Hunter. holy moly is that Hunter built like a freight train. no way would i wanna get tangled up with that dude.
It didn't say replay in real small letters up in the righthand corner, did it? :doah: :rolleyes: :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: nope!!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I heard a reporter last year say that his body is like a Greek God.
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Jimmy the Greek? :scratch: Musta been all that Jamaican food.......
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HE's got a ways to go to catch me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dancinred: :rocker; :super smiley: :super smiley: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :doah: :confused:
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Sleepin....................er dreamin while @ work again, huh? :rolleyes: :laugh:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1: You go Glenn!
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i know all you auld pharts where more then likely in bed already :rotflmao: :rotflmao: but after the 10 pm news i watched on channel 4 a vikings training camp segment.
they interviewed Cousins, SPielman and Hunter. holy moly is that Hunter built like a freight train. no way would i wanna get tangled up with that dude.
So when did you start gettin FSN again? :scratch:
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i know all you auld pharts where more then likely in bed already :rotflmao: :rotflmao: but after the 10 pm news i watched on channel 4 a vikings training camp segment.
they interviewed Cousins, SPielman and Hunter. holy moly is that Hunter built like a freight train. no way would i wanna get tangled up with that dude.
So when did you start gettin FSN again? :scratch:
:crazy: :crazy: :confused: read my post.......it was on CHANNEL 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WCCO!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:doah: :doah: i thought you had to go get ready to pretend to go fishing???????????????????? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: cause dotch said you couldnt catch a cold!!!!! :mooning: :mooning:
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NO way! :thumbs: I don't ever read everything you :doofus: post :tut:, too much :bs:. ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :oops1: :bonk: Thought it was FSN where I seen it. :doah: :rolleyes: :smiley:
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:doah: :doah: i thought you had to go get ready to pretend to go fishing???????????????????? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: cause dotch said you couldnt catch a cold!!!!! :mooning: :mooning:
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Doing it now, ya clown! 🤡 Besides, Dotch only gets sheephead......now get to work! :moon:
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NO way! :thumbs: I don't ever read everything you :doofus: post :tut:, too much :bs:. ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :oops1: :bonk: Thought it was FSN where I seen it. :doah: :rolleyes: :smiley:
:crazy: :crazy: :pouty: :pouty: :pouty: :pouty: OK Reb!!!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:tut: :tut: :mooning: :mooning: Another of those hardly any work, work, work gettin done days, huh? :shocked: :rolleyes: ;D
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:tut: :tut: :mooning: :mooning: Another of those hardly any work, work, work gettin done days, huh? :shocked: :rolleyes: ;D
for now!!!!!!!!!! :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :rotflmao:
some days i start trouble...........some days it comes to me. right now......i'm waiting for it!!!!!!! :happy1:
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I am looking forward to the Vikes game Fri night.
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Da Bears Are Lookin Forward Ta Da Vikes Games Dis Year! training-087
Just anudder Bears trick play aginst dem Vikes :rotflmao:
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Click on fur da action play...... :happy1:
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:sorry: Glenn! I didn't realize dat it would hoyt ya dat much :blues brothers:
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Click on fur da action play...... :happy1:
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:sorry: Glenn! I didn't realize dat it would hoyt ya dat much :blues brothers:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :mooning: :mooning: you gotz your own tread for da fuzzy bears..........dis is da mighty vikings thread!!!!!!!!! :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :rocker; :woot:
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And MIGHTY it is!
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No surprises here...
Vikings Release 1st Unofficial Depth Chart of the 2019 Season (https://www.vikings.com/news/vikings-release-1st-unofficial-depth-chart-of-the-2019-season)
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Dont forget: Lee is an even bigger packer fan!!!!
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Oh Lee is a packer backer?
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Oh yes!!! He even has one of those cheese head hats
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That's not a hat. That's his head. :rotflmao:
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NO way! :thumbs: I don't ever read everything you :doofus: post :tut:, too much :bs:. ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :oops1: :bonk: Thought it was FSN where I seen it. :doah: :rolleyes: :smiley:
Guess :scratch: I may have watched the program I was talking about on FSN as they have a Vikings Game Plan show on everyday. It sure sounded like the 1 you watched, glenn, not sure it was though. :confused:
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In CAWchester?! Sherels is from here, though................:shocked:
https://www.postbulletin.com/news/local/thielen-and-sherels-opening-workout-facility-in-rochester/article_91341ee4-b889-11e9-8fc5-b7bd9dc9198b.html
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I heard on KSTP 1500 which is Skor now that Jake Browning has been getting more snaps than Sloter. They must be liking him. SKOR has all Vikes stuff from 2 -4 everyday. Have it dialed in on my I phone and can bluetooth it in my new truck. :sleazy: :happy1:
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Reminder, Vikings tonight 7pm on Channel Fox 9. good luck.
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Except on my DirecTV! :angry2:
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Found it! Ch 14....suppose to be a chick flick movie on there.... :confused: Stoopid DirecTV!
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it's on direct here.............
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:doofus: I'm busy, besides it's only preseason. :doah:
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Found it! Ch 14....suppose to be a chick flick movie on there.... :confused: Stoopid DirecTV!
chick flick over football?? :scratch: :censored: :censored: you need to see a shrink. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Boy, you can't even understand the simplest statements anymore! :doofus: :smoking:
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Boy, you can't even understand the simplest statements anymore! :doofus: :smoking:
oh I got it all right, I just chose to go down a different avenue!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Yer always down a different avenue! The dead end street! :rotflmao: :moon:
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Minnesota Vikings - Biggest Flaws :doah:
:coffee: ......
The roster in Minnesota is one of the most complete in the league, especially on defense. Going into the draft, the team’s biggest weakness was offensive line, particularly center, but the Vikings fixed that by drafting top center Garrett Bradbury in the first round. It’s time for Minnesota to bring it all together, and that requires Kirk Cousins playing much better against great teams like "Da Bears" :blues brothers: :bow: and in prime time than he’s done throughout his :mad1: career.
Author's Opinion.....
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"It's not easy to start da season knowin dat yer already garenteed two losses aginst DA Bears" :banghead:
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Minnesota Vikings - Biggest Flaws :doah:
:coffee: ......
The roster in Minnesota is one of the most complete in the league, especially on defense. Going into the draft, the team’s biggest weakness was offensive line, particularly center, but the Vikings fixed that by drafting top center Garrett Bradbury in the first round. It’s time for Minnesota to bring it all together, and that requires Kirk Cousins playing much better against great teams like "Da Bears" :blues brothers: :bow: and in prime time than he’s done throughout his :mad1: career.
hey Lee...................go play with your worms!!!!!!!!!!! :tut: :tut: :mooning: :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: you do know that report is currently on MSN's homepage right. it also has your boo boo bears weakest link??????? it was the whole team!!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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There definitely need to be a different Chitown, city of crookedness, thread somewhere... :rolleyes:
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There definitely need to be a different Chitown, city of crookedness, thread somewhere... :rolleyes:
This?
Da Bears News (http://mnoutdoorsman.com/forums/index.php?topic=35939.msg307235#msg307235)
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So far yous' guys are showin dat da Vikes fans are puttin up a bedder defence den da Vikes team can on da field :happy1:
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Vikings traded a fifth round draft pick for a new kicker. I watched the interview. This guy can punt and kick well. Vikings may get rid of Bailey and the punter opening up another roster spot. good luck.
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Vikings traded a fifth round draft pick for a new kicker. I watched the interview. This guy can punt and kick well. Vikings may get rid of Bailey and the punter opening up another roster spot. good luck.
Well, finally! 🏈🏃♂️
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Vikings traded a fifth round draft pick for a new kicker. I watched the interview. This guy can punt and kick well. Vikings may get rid of Bailey and the punter opening up another roster spot. good luck.
Brilliant move! Kaare Vedvik can push place kicker Bailey AND punter Wile in practice, but will probably put Wile out of a job because Vedvik also is a holder.
But watch out next year. This is a lot of reckless speculation, but it Vedvik hits longer fields goals in practice than Bailey, and maybe Zim uses Vedvik for long ones during the season and Vedvik hits them, why wouldn't you cut Bailey next year and find a new holder. Or maybe Bailey figures things out and stops missing fields goals and everyone is happy.
Yes, good luck.
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I think giving up a 5th round draft pick means Bailey is gone. They must of done a lot of research on this guy to do this. We will see. good luck.
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https://www.vikings.com/news/vikings-dan-bailey-goes-7-for-7-kicks-training-camp
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:scratch:
https://www.vikings.com/news/vikings-dan-bailey-goes-7-for-7-kicks-training-camp
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Sure seems like that is the motivation he needed. :happy1: :happy1:
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Yeah, and Zim isn't taking the pressure off.
It looks like Wile is the next odd man out and Vedvik will get the punting job. And it is often the punter who holds for place kicks, but the Vikes are putting receiver Chad Beebe in that role, which leaves Vedvik available to kick field goals if Bailey wilts. Good luck.
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I can see that scenario happening SO.
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Vikes vs Seabirds here at 7:00 tonite..................🏈
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I agree with SteveO. Thanks Reb. I'll be watching. good luck.
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Tuned in for the game. Go Vikes!!
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Same here!
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So where's the Gunner Vikings Replay Wrapup? :scratch:
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Good game. I just read a great story in the Strib: "The day Brett Favre became a Viking". One of the most exciting days ever as a Vikes fan for me. I tired to post it buy it is a Chrome html and I couldn't figure out how to change it to get it on here.
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Good game. I just read a great story in the Strib: "The day Brett Favre became a Viking". One of the most exciting days ever as a Vikes fan for me. I tired to post it buy it is a Chrome html and I couldn't figure out how to change it to get it on here.
I couldn't either, because of copyright laws on it................
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Ok thanks for trying. What a great story. They said how he was so good at getting his hand just right so when he slapped guys asses that it stung and that is funny as heck. I remember exactly where I was at when Mark Rosen on KFAN who had the exclusive, said well Brett Favre just landed in MN in Ziggys jet. I wasn't even that big on it but when Rosen said that I had electric impulses going through me like goose bumps. I had to stop what I was doing and think about it. What a great year of fun football. Should have gone all of the way too. He has never looked back at that Saints game on tape. I would love to hang with him for a few days and drink beer and shoot critters on our UTV's.
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I did that little slap to a waitress when she bent over once. Showed me a football move.
She Clothes-lined me. :doah:
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I did that little slap to a waitress when she bent over once. Showed me a football move.
She Clothes-lined me. :doah:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Ya I bet. That don't fly no more. I would have like to see it though.
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It's true. Knocked me right over in my chair. My buddies still mention it now and then. :angry:
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So where's the Gunner Vikings Replay Wrapup? :scratch:
I wasn't able to see the whole game. ;) :drinking: :laugh:
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That'll teach ya...
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It apparently didn't do much good!! :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:tut: Piffle!! ;) :smiley: Just EARLY pre-season, most of the minutes played were by guys who won't be around at the end or will end up on other teams. :mooning:
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Friday Football Feast on KFAN now. Good stuff with the roster changes. Game at noon tomorrow.
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:tut: Piffle!! ;) :smiley: Just EARLY pre-season, most of the minutes played were by guys who won't be around at the end or will end up on other teams. :mooning:
Mike Tirico had an interesting idea he shared on the radio this morning.
Two preseason games is enough to prepare the teams with game speed action.
For the other two weeks...
Since teams are doing more and more organized scrimmages with other teams - formalize the process. Host one three day scrimmage at one city, then your team travels to another city for the second week. You have two days of closed practice and then you open up your home stadium to fans for the third day of organized practice. Charge them $10 and let them buy all the overpriced beer and concessions they want. Since it is practice, the QBs will be wearing red shirts and won't get hit, but at least you'll get to see them play/practice - unlike most preseason games where the started see little or no playing time. Then, if you really want to practice at game speed, play a 30 minute real-time game using the backups to evaluate the back half of the roster.
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https://www.kaaltv.com/sports/ex-nfl-lineman-barry-bennett-death-latest/5467690/?cat=10151
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Ya preseason is sort of fun to see other players but let's play football.... SO I just looked and we play 5 of our last 9 games of the season at 8 pm. That is BS!!! Big time. Has any other team ever had to do that at???
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https://www.kaaltv.com/sports/ex-nfl-lineman-barry-bennett-death-latest/5467690/?cat=10151
that's just 7 miles from me... super sad..
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On the above post regarding the couple getting murdered, I see that the son has been arrested in Mexico. On the game this Saturday, the Vikings won again but it was won by the QB who I think could be a starter on most NFL teams. Kyle Sloter. The guy just gets the team going and makes great plays. Love watching the guy. Ya he come's in late in the game but always has great numbers. This kid is going to be a star in time. Cousins sucked and so did Manion his no. 2. good luck.
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I agree 100% RH. Noone looked like they were even having fun with Cousins out there. Mannion not any better. BUT when Sloter gets on the field everyone's heads are up and they have fun. That leads to points. PLUS I have never heard a starting QB apologize for bad play during a preseason game like Cousins did. Too bad Zimmer is so hard on Sloter. Just like he treated Carlson the kicker last year who went on to kick 16 of 17 for Oakland after we fired him. Maybe Zim needs to get his head out of his azz.
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the town of Long Prairie is taking that man's death hard, he was a very loved and admired man here...
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Sad deal Mike. They talk all about the man but don't say anything about his wife.
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she was a quiet lady, always nice but quiet.. they raised their family and then adopted 2 kids.. and now you know then rest of the story.. it will be a larget funeral for sure..
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On a lighter note, anybody else hear the news outta the Redskins camp. :scratch: Their hotshot #1 pick from Ohio St. got beat out for the starting QB job by Case Keenum. I thought he kind of got a raw deal after the year he had. It was easy to tell Zimmer wasn't a fan of his & I'm not sure why. :confused:
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Ayup....
https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2019/08/26/denver-broncos-ex-qb-case-keenum-will-start-for-washington-redsins/
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yrah that case keenum deal ill nevernunderstand...took us all that way to be dumped
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And we have the Redskins in Week 8! :happy1:
The NFL is funny that way. Guys like Matt Cassel, Brian Hoyer, and Jimmy Garoppolo get handed the starting jobs with big $$$ contracts just because they had a couple of good games playing for the Patriots.
I think coaches like Zimm don't like QBs like Keenum because they have too much gunslinger in them - despite demonstrating that they can win games in the NFL. That is also the reason I think Sloter will get cut. Sloter might have some of the "It Factor," but Mannion's past experience will carry the day.
I think coaches and GMs are more comfortable going with the "consensus best" quarterback, i.e. Cousins. That way if things don't work our, its easier to say, "It ain't our fault. EVERYONE was wrong on this guy."
Actually, I get it that Teddy Bridgewater was a big gamble coming off his leg injury, but I'd take Teddy compared to what I've seen out of Cousins so far. Cousins strikes me as Christian Ponder 2.0. 'I need to play better. We won't win if I don't play better. We'll look at the film and correct the mistakes." It was a pre-season game for cripes sakes!
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I do drink the Purple Kool Aid. Love the Vikes and don't miss a game. People don't call me during the game neither. LOL My wife is just as big of fan as I am and that makes it twice as much fun. We both got actual jerseys last year. A 19 and a 22 for each of us. Cool to see which one we each pick for game. BUT I am not looking forward to Cousins at all. I feel like he is someone elses QB playing for us to help out. I don't want him to help out. He ain't going to get us there so let's work on a QB that we may have for a few years is Zim's ego doesn't ruin that too. As in Sloter.
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HEY!!! It just dawned on me. Our new QB next year is Andrew Luck!!!! We can slog through this season with something to look forward to. Luck is tired of being hurt and rehabilitating. SO he gets a year to rest and get better. Our O line gets a chance to improve. THEN next year we do a Favre like move and announce that Luck is just landing on Ziggy's jet and he is a MN Viking!!!! You can all congratulate me next year. Yes Thank You in advance.
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Purple koolaid appears to be heavily spiked!! :doofus: :tequila; :drinking: :tequila; :drinking: :tequila; :drinking: :rotflmao:
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Sounds just like every year...."Just wait 'til next year"...
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HEY!!! It just dawned on me. Our new QB next year is Andrew Luck!!!! We can slog through this season with something to look forward to. Luck is tired of being hurt and rehabilitating. SO he gets a year to rest and get better. Our O line gets a chance to improve. THEN next year we do a Favre like move and announce that Luck is just landing on Ziggy's jet and he is a MN Viking!!!! You can all congratulate me next year. Yes Thank You in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX3ll_cCkqg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX3ll_cCkqg)
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Sounds just like every year...."Just wait 'til next year"...
And only in Minnesota do you hear "just wait 'til next year..." BEFORE this year even starts!
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Sounds just like every year...."Just wait 'til next year"...
And only in Minnesota do you hear "just wait 'til next year..." BEFORE this year even starts!
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:tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: DA SUPER BOWL all da way this year................................. :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :blues brothers: :blues brothers: :rocker; :rocker; :rocker; :rocker;
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I think Zimmer has a contract through2020 and so has Spielman. This season is a get it done or your out season for them. They have good coaches and a great defense. Last year to be fair to Cousins, it was his first with the team and the getting used to part, but he had great numbers even with the terrible O line. So as my favorite president always says "We will see what happens". Every year I am one of those "this is the year" couch potato experts. good luck.
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Sounds just like every year...."Just wait 'til next year"...
And only in Minnesota do you hear "just wait 'til next year..." BEFORE this year even starts!
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:tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: DA SUPER BOWL all da way this year................................. :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :blues brothers: :blues brothers: :rocker; :rocker; :rocker; :rocker;
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Been seein a lot of reports of this USWNT member kickin a 55 yd field goal in a tryout for the Eagles & that she is now considerin trying it as she's had quite a few teams show some interest. What do you guys think? :scratch: A female soccer player kicking FG's for the Vikes. :crazy: Yes? No?
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maybe??????????? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: its one thing kicking field goals on a practice field. somehow i think its a bit different when you got 11 guys running at ya!!!!!!!!!
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It's gonna happen sooner or later. I'm not sure if I want that much change. Will we get to see her in her underwear in the locker room just like they show the guys???? :sleazy: I mean really. There are some issues that may need to get smoothed out.
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maybe??????????? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: its one thing kicking field goals on a practice field. somehow i think its a bit different when you got 11 guys running at ya!!!!!!!!!
:scratch: That depends, who's doin the runnin :confused:, if they run like you :rolleyes:.............................................. & me ;) ;D then it'd be pretty EZ.
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It's gonna happen sooner or later. I'm not sure if I want that much change. Will we get to see her in her underwear in the locker room just like they show the guys???? :sleazy: I mean really. There are some issues that may need to get smoothed out.
I'll gladly handle that end of it.... :whistling: :police:
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Vikings at Bills right now, guys!!! Final PS game!! :cheerleader:
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What make's it even better is the Slotter is starting tonignt!!! Awesome. good luck.
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We'll see how he does.....
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I dunno why, but found it so boring I switched to a movie after the first quarter... :rolleyes:
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Well Sloter did pretty good. Too bad the special teams didn't do better to stop the big run backs.
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THEY LOST???!! What the......???! :confused:
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Yes, and I'll bet that made Zimm the happiest man on the field cause now he can spend all of next week :taz: about how they need to improve and what mistakes they can't afford to make.
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Fast forward to January:
cause now he can spend all of next week :taz: about how they need to improve and what mistakes they can't afford to make.
;)
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I watched almost all of the game except the end when we lost. What happened?? Thought we had it in the bag. Sloter did well I thought. Good stats except the one intercept and he moved the team. Probably shouldn't of had that cocktail in bed watching the game. good luck.
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Well maybe they know more than us couch potato's but they waived Sloter :angry2: :angry2: :angry2: :angry2: :angry2:. good luck.
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Yup, performs well, throws well....another typical Viking fudge up. Maybe they need to WAVE BYE to Zimmer! That's exactly why I followed half of the team when they were traded years ago to Tampa Bay, and never looked back. They went on to the Superbowl and also twice to the playoffs, winning the championships....while the Vikings were ground into the dirt. I'm already watching the Bucs games....why is it, Minnesota can't have a professional sports team without some stoopid type of ball up???!!! :confused:
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Well maybe they know more than us couch potato's but they waived Sloter :angry2: :angry2: :angry2: :angry2: :angry2:. good luck.
Darn. I hope he does great wherever he ends up.
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I heard he went to the Cardinals. On the Viking facebook page comments seen to get into that his problem was at practice. We only seen him in 3rd or 4th quarter game time. Well to me what I saw was that he played good enough to win every time. Hope he lands somewhere and has success. good luck.
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SO we are stuck with no chemistry Cousins. (hope he proves me wrong) and boring Mannion. Gonna be a long season.
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SO we are stuck with no chemistry Cousins. (hope he proves me wrong) and boring Mannion. Gonna be a long season.
We better order an extra gross of popcorn. :rolleyes:
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Bumping Browning up? And hopes on Vednik? An almost entirely new rookie team, that's never played together? I better get a gross of Dorito's, too.....
https://www.twincities.com/2019/09/01/vikings-fill-out-practice-squad-including-signing-quarterback-jake-browning/
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heck yes!!! :happy1:
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That is great Boar! How much fun is that going to be???? :happy1: :happy1:
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At least he is only losing $25.00
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https://www.vikings.com/news/vikings-sign-wr-josh-doctson
I'm afraid they're gonna get whomped on Sunday by Atlanta.... :doah:
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Gonna be interesting for sure.
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We are playing at home so that's one atvantage. Going to be crazy loud. good luck.
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I'm afraid they're gonna get whomped on Sunday by Atlanta.... :doah:
Reb... spoken like a true Minnesotan who has had his heart stomped on and hopes dashed countless times by the lads in purple.
There is always next season. Or the season after that when Cousins' contract expires. :bonk: :rotflmao:
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Ya, and to top that off, no young QB for the future that I can see. This is why I didn't like them cutting Slotter. Are they hoping they will luck out in the draft or are they going to get QBs who are veterans later and hope for the best every so many years. We need a QB that will be us for years, not just for one contract. good luck.
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I'm afraid they're gonna get whomped on Sunday by Atlanta.... :doah:
Reb... spoken like a true Minnesotan who has had his heart stomped on and hopes dashed countless times by the lads in purple.
There is always next season. Or the season after that when Cousins' contract expires. :bonk: :rotflmao:
No, that's becuz as a lontime BUCS fan, the Falcons were their big rivals....and always good. Always seemed to smack the Bucs good. Without Ryan, we'll see......
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Ryan not playing Reb? good luck.
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I don't think he is, RH...they've been doin' the QB flip....kinda like another team.. :whistling:
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OK, I thought he was injured. I always liked Ryan. Great competitor. good luck.
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Ya, and to top that off, no young QB for the future that I can see. This is why I didn't like them cutting Slotter. Are they hoping they will luck out in the draft or are they going to get QBs who are veterans later and hope for the best every so many years. We need a QB that will be us for years, not just for one contract. good luck.
Maybe Zimm is more like Childress than we'd like to admit.
Brett Favre IS TO Mike Childress
AS
Case Keenuym and Kyle Sloter ARE TO Mike Zimmer
Perhaps neither coach likes gun-slinger quarterbacks.
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I think I sense an uptick in dissatisfaction with the Vikes here.... :scratch:
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And the season hasn't even started yet! :rotflmao:
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Maybe it's already over! :scratch: :doah:
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It ain't that bad yet. I will let you know Sunday late afternoon....
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It ain't that bad yet. I will let you know Sunday late afternoon....
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Game wrap up....the good and bad. 🏈
https://thevikingage.com/2019/09/08/minnesota-vikings-best-worst-week-1-vs-atlanta-falcons/
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:happy1: :happy1: Sure turned out to be a fun game.
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Lee sure seems to be noticeably absent??? :scratch: :scratch: :rotflmao: tink he's scared!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao:
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Ya that was a fun game to watch. Only one game and on we go. Only 10 passes thrown and that should say something about our offense and how it's changed. That is the result of Kubiac comming on the team I believe. He is huge on the run attack. Of course our defense was great as usual. Next week is the cheeseheads on their turf. Would love to see the Vikings destroy them. good luck.
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...That is the result of Kubiac comming on the team I believe. He is huge on the run attack. ...
It will be interesting to see what happens when the run attack stops working. Then what? :confused:
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There was a guest on KFAN this morning that is an NFL expert??? He said what we finally learned is that the less Cousins is involved in the offense the better we will be. ???? But we will have to use him eventually.
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That analysis may be a bit premature given a sample size of 1.
There were plenty of excuses for why Cousins didn't wow us with wins last year despite his gaudy numbers: bad O-Line, O-Line coach died before the season started, bad O-coordinator hire, Dalvin Cook injuries. Any QB looks better when there is an effective running game and everything I mentioned conspired against their running attack.
NFL experts also say you generally have to wait for Week 4 before you really know what you have. There is still time to see if Cousins can translate good throwing statistics into wins. 3 more games to go until we know.
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Power ranking in the NFL has the Vikings at no. 3 behind the Patriots and Kansas City. So they think the Vikings are damn good this year. To me it's all about injuries at this point. Remember they hired Kobiak. The guy is all about the run. It showed this week. Once you have a run game established the passing to recievers will be easier. Last year they knew we had to pass so the defences keyd on that. Every game. I go by the last game of the season. Any NFL team can beat any other NFL team. Doesn't matter who you play. This year the coaches know and the players have to get it in their head that each week you play as if it's the super bowl. We are better this year. good luck.
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That analysis may be a bit premature given a sample size of 1.
There were plenty of excuses for why Cousins didn't wow us with wins last year despite his gaudy numbers: bad O-Line, O-Line coach died before the season started, bad O-coordinator hire, Dalvin Cook injuries. Any QB looks better when there is an effective running game and everything I mentioned conspired against their running attack.
NFL experts also say you generally have to wait for Week 4 before you really know what you have. There is still time to see if Cousins can translate good throwing statistics into wins. 3 more games to go until we know.
As long is there isn't an uptick in his fumbles, keeping him at the #1 spot in the NFL for them. :rolleyes:
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Just lookin & their LT Bakhtiari didn't practice yday, back issues. Look out Erin, here comes #'s 97 & 99. ;) :smiley:
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I just heard Synikin or however you spell his name. They guy from GB that is on KFAN a lot. He just said that if Baktiara doesn't play the Packers will lose. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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MEH........the vikings are gonna kick there :moon: :moon: :happy1: :happy1: no matter who plays or dont. :happy1: :happy1:
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MEH........the vikings are gonna kick there :moon: :moon: :happy1: :happy1: no matter who plays or dont. :happy1: :happy1:
So hows come you took the enemy in da pool then? :scratch: :confused:Just lookin & their LT Bakhtiari didn't practice yday, back issues. Look out Erin, here comes #'s 97 & 99. ;) :smiley:
Forgot to mention Erin's good buddy # 55. ;) :laugh:
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MEH........the vikings are gonna kick there :moon: :moon: :happy1: :happy1: no matter who plays or dont. :happy1: :happy1:
So hows come you took the enemy in da pool then? :scratch: :confused:Just lookin & their LT Bakhtiari didn't practice yday, back issues. Look out Erin, here comes #'s 97 & 99. ;) :smiley:
Forgot to mention Erin's good buddy # 55. ;) :laugh:
reverse phsycology..............pick the team you dont want to win. especially with a reward if your right........the other teams automaticly wins!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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Gunner, he just did it to PYO. ;)
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Gunner, he just did it to PYO. ;)
:scratch: :laughroll: :laughroll: :super smiley: :super smiley: :tut:
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Just lookin & their LT Bakhtiari didn't practice yday, back issues. Look out Erin, here comes #'s 97 & 99. ;) :smiley:
I just heard Synikin or however you spell his name. They guy from GB that is on KFAN a lot. He just said that if Baktiara doesn't play the Packers will lose. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
Vegas might know somethin we don't :scratch: as GB is still favored by 3. Havta see what they say tomorrow.
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:scratch:
https://www.sbnation.com/sports-betting-odds-gambling/2019/9/11/20860176/packers-vikings-2019-odds-nfl-betting-preview
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There was a guest on KFAN this morning that is an NFL expert??? He said what we finally learned is that the less Cousins is involved in the offense the better we will be. ???? But we will have to use him eventually.
I read or heard that same thing said. I think what they are saying in that, is that they want Cousins to be "a part" of the offense and not have to rely on him to be "the offense"...basically be a game manager and not try to be "the guy". I agree for the most part with this. With all of the capable weapons we have on the offense, just distribute the ball around and make good sound decisions to put points on the board and then let the defense loose to run havoc on the opposing offense to keep their points off the board. I think this is what Zimmer has been wanting from this team since he came here.
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Just lookin & their LT Bakhtiari didn't practice yday, back issues. Look out Erin, here comes #'s 97 & 99. ;) :smiley:
I just heard Synikin or however you spell his name. They guy from GB that is on KFAN a lot. He just said that if Baktiara doesn't play the Packers will lose. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
Vegas might know somethin we don't :scratch: as GB is still favored by 3. Havta see what they say tomorrow.
that simply means GB is the home team by the 3 point spread. Based on how each team played last week I can't believe the odds are that close. :crazy:
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:happy1: Me too, 'specially with their LT hurt. :crazy: Bet Zimmer will have 'em checking to see how healthy he really is, if he's even in there, early. :sleazy: :tut:
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Well, :confused: :doofus: :shocked: that's not a good start. :pouty:
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"And there he kicks it.....missed!" Off to another blazing start. :censored:
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Down 14-zip. Gonna be a looonnnngggg game if this crap keeps up. Think I'll watch the Twins game Reb will watch tomorrow! :rotflmao:
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Down 14-zip. Gonna be a looonnnngggg game if this crap keeps up. Think I'll watch the Twins game Reb will watch tomorrow! :rotflmao:
:super smiley: :super smiley: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll:
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Turnover!!! :party1: Gonna switch to the "Brady Bunch Renovation" for some real excitement. I can watch the live Twins game tomorrow.... :rotflmao:
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Must be a good game. Three posts come in at the same time. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Cousins, what an idiot. :confused: :confused: :tut: :pouty:
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Screwed themselves. Held the Cheeseheads scoreless in the 2nd half and waste a stellar effort by Cook. Pretty lame. :doah:
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I have never had less enjoyment watching a Vikes game than I do with Cousins at QB.
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I have never had less enjoyment watching a Vikes game than I do with Cousins at QB.
I hear ya lps, not sure what his final #'s were but at one point our 84 million dollar man was 5/17... I picked the wrong day to not take my blood pressure pills!
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Too many boo-boos made, too. Cousins was getting rushed more than he should have, but he also made some nitwit passes all thru the game. Depending on Cook so much, flip to leftside and do a sideline run was getting old. I'm surprised Cousins didn't pull a rookie QB move and throw cross-field for an interception, too... oh, and why do the VQueens have SOOOO much trouble finding someone who CAN kick?! :rolleyes:
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How quickly yous' turn yer backs on dem Vikings when tings don't go yer way! :moon: :scratch:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: good to see ya post Lee!!!
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Cousins, what an idiot. :confused: :confused: :tut: :pouty:
:happy1: That last INT was :bs: :bonk: :thumbs: :pouty: :cry: Waaay too many penalties too. :tut: :sad:
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Cousins, what an idiot. :confused: :confused: :tut: :pouty:
:happy1: That last INT was :bs: :bonk: :thumbs: :pouty: :cry: Waaay too many penalties too. :tut: :sad:
STOOPID penalties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :taz: :pouty: :pouty:
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Fell apart in the first quarter but then started to wake up. Cousins can make some big plays but when he screws up it's huge. That last pass was the dumbest play I have seen in years. Even if we won the game on that play it was still stupid. 1st down on the 8 yard line and we take a risky pass while our run game was doing great?? Could have run the ball a couple of times first. Diggs dumb penalty with his taking off his helmet was also stupid. Can't make these type of mistakes. They cost games. Didn't think the officiating was that great also though. Oh well, it's one game with Oakland next at home. One game Cousins is hated and the next he's a hero with a lot of fans. My judgment will be made at the end of the season. That's when it counts. Rogers is still the best QB playing though. Cousins hangs on to the ball too long and should get out of the pocket more often when rushed. good luck.
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Naw, RH, I'll make my judgement now - and be happy to admit it if I'm wrong later, but...
As Denny Green :afro: might say about Kirk Cousins if he were still around: He is who we thought he was. :embarrassed:
Kirk's a .500 QB who doesn't win the big game. I know 2019 is a small sample size, but sounds like our season so far, eh? :censored:
We had a couple high-risk QBs in house in Case Keenum and Teddy Bridgewater. Last year Case stunk it up in Denver, but this year he is rated 6th in ESPN QBR Quarterback Rating. (For the record, Kirk is 31st this year, just ahead of Ryan Fitzpatrick in Miami. :puke: ) And now Teddy will get his shot for the Saints with Brees out. :happy1:
I'm just a stupid, ignorant fan, but I would have taken a risk on either of these two guys instead of paying top dollar for a historically average player. :doah:
I wish you the best, Kirk, because the Vike's and their fans are goona need it - and then some. :undecided:
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That's fine Mike. I'm just a couch expert fan. Suffered through many seasons with expectations and then the roof caved in every time. Who knows maybe this season will be the same. But the reason I'm more optimistic is with the addition of Kobiak the run game is much better and it showed the last two games. Too bad they didn't use it on the last drive with 1st down and 8 yards to go. Dumbest play I have ever seen as a Viking game. Or that I remember [senior citizen]. Another reason was the way the offense came back from a 3 touchdown deficit, something a few seasons ago would of been the end of the game. I'm not a Cousins fan for reasons I have stated before. I would have liked to keep Keenum. He knew our system and could move out of the pocket if needed. What get's me is our kicking game. Every kick [field goal and extra point] I have no confidence. So from this point on it's about getting it right, and hopefully no large amounts of injured players. Look at the Saints and Pittsburg for example. If Cousins get's injured I have no confidence in our back up at all for example. Where are our young prospects? Sloter is gone. Big mistake in my opinion. good luck.
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:scratch: :scratch:I made no comments... just sayin!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Sorry Mike, I had another post in mind which was good and had your name in my senior brain instead of Steve. good luck.
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:scratch: :scratch:I made no comments... just sayin!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Ya, but we know what yer thinkin'... :rotflmao:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBQalkIeE7s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBQalkIeE7s)
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: good one. good luck.
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Sorry Mike, I had another post in mind which was good and had your name in my senior brain instead of Steve. good luck.
hey we are good!! I just had to do that!! and good luck with senior moments!!! they can fun too!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Cousins should pro rate the games he has played and walk away. He should get into marketing. He is a bad to average QB that just happened to be in the market at just the right time. He marketed himself for an unreal amount of money and found a sucker in Spielman. He looks scared out there to me and being a QB doesn't seem to be his niche to me.
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I miss Keenum!
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i miss farvre
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i miss ponder!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty:
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The Jets need Cousins now with their QB's out of action.
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The Jets need Cousins now with their QB's out of action.
the way cousins played.......the vikings would have to PAY the jets to take him!!!!!!!! :confused: :doofus: :surrender: :surrender:
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I miss Jeff George.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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i miss ponder!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty:
You mean you miss Ponder's wife, don't you? :scratch: ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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i miss ponder!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty:
You mean you miss Ponder's wife, don't you? :scratch: ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:wowza: :sleazy: :sleazy: maybe!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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i miss ponder!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty:
I know this is a lot of words, but...
2011 was a VERY BAD year to be desperate for a quarterback.
Here are the QBs that were drafted and free agents.
I'm not saying I liked the Ponder pick, but who else would you have wanted instead?
Pretty slim pickins.
Quarterbacks Drafted in 2011
Round 1, 1st pick - Cam Newton (Panthers)
Round 1, 8th pick - Jake Locker (Titans)
Round 1, 10th pick - Blaine Gabbert (Jaguars)
Round 1, 12th pick - Christian Ponder (Vikes)
Round 2, 35th pick - Andy Dalton (Bengals)
Round 2, 36th pick - Colin Kaepernick (49ers)
Round 3, 74th pick - Ryan Mallett (Patriots)
Round 5, 135th pick - Ricky Stanzi (Chiefs)
Round 5, 152nd pick - T.J. Yates (Texans)
Round 5, 160th pick - Nathan Enderle (Bears)
Round 6, 180th pick - Tyrod Taylor (Ravens)
Round 7, 208th pick - Gred McElroy (Jets)
Free Agents Available
Peyton Manning, QB, Colts. Age: 35. Re-signed with Colts (5 years, $90 million)
Michael Vick, QB Eagles. Age: 31. Franchised by Eagles
Matt Hasselbeck, QB, Seahawks. Age: 35. Signed with Titans (3 years, $21 million)
Caleb Hanie (RFA), QB, Bears. Age: 25. Re-signed with Bears (1 year)
Vince Young, QB, Titans. Age: 28. Signed with Eagles (1 year)
Marc Bulger, QB, Ravens. Age: 35. Announced retirement
Billy Volek, QB, Chargers. Age: 35. Re-signed with Chargers (2 years)
Alex Smith, QB, 49ers. Age: 27. Re-signed with 49ers (1 year, $5 million)
Bruce Gradkowski, QB, Raiders. Age: 28. Signed with Bengals (2 years)
Luke McCown, QB, Jaguars. Age: 30. Re-signed with Jaguars (1 year)
Seneca Wallace, QB, Browns. Age: 31. Re-signed with Browns (3 years, $9 million)
Kerry Collins, QB, Titans. Age: 38. Signed with Colts
Tarvaris Jackson, QB, Vikings. Age: 28. Signed with Seahawks
(Decent backup quarterback in the NFL. No one aside from Brad Childress thinks he can start.)
Troy Smith, QB, 49ers. Age: 27.
Chad Pennington, QB, Dolphins. Age: 35.
Dennis Dixon (RFA), QB, Steelers. Age: 26. -- Tendered by Steelers
Derek Anderson, QB, Cardinals. Age: 28. -- Signed with Panthers
Drew Stanton, QB, Lions. Age: 27. -- Re-signed with Lions (1 year)
Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware. Age: 23. -- Signed with Dolphins
Nate Davis, QB, Colts. Age: 24.
Rex Grossman, QB, Redskins. Age: 31. -- Re-signed with Redskins
Jim Sorgi, QB, Giants. Age: 30.
Matt Moore, QB, Panthers. Age: 27. -- Signed with Dolphins (2 years)
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i miss ponder!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty:
Very funny Glenn.
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Steve O that is a fun list to Ponder. LOL I forgot all of those guys were in the same year.
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Been listening to P.A. and his analysis of the QB play. I might have to back away from some of my rhetoric.
Specifically, although that last pass was inexcusable, Kirk is also doing many of the small things right. He is still a work in progress - which is sad to say for a QB in his 8th year, but he is our work in progress.
Probably best to wait until after Week 4 to see what we got or who he is this season. The Raiders should be a win - if the team doesn't look past them, and the Bears will be a touch road division test. I guess it isn't any time to panic if you loose two road games to your toughest division rivals, but the best teams find a way to win some of those.
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I like listening to PA also. Don't think Cousins will make a stupid play like that again. Will he make some bad throws, sure, but that one wasn't just a bad throw it was [like he said himself] something that should never happen. Ya we should beat Oakland [should]. I don't think much of the Bears offense this year so far but their defense is good. Zimmer and Spielman have their butts on the line also this season. good luck.
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for it wasnt the play that botherd me but the dick who called it. 1st and goal, and a pass play, after they ground pounded it all the way ther. com on! pound it it cook woulda scored!
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What Boar said.
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for it wasnt the play that botherd me but the dick who called it. 1st and goal, and a pass play, after they ground pounded it all the way ther. com on! pound it it cook woulda scored!
I didn't see an issue with it. :laughroll: :snow5: :nerd: :nerd:after all I won!! :sleazy: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Do we know who called the play??? Offensive cordinator or Cousins? :crazy: :angry2:good luck.
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The call didn't bother me. Some work some don't. BUT to throw it to a double covered man who you can't even see he is covered so good is idiotic. A rookie I could see doing it but not an 8 year veteran. It wasn't the last play of the game. It was first down. We had 3 more chances from the 8 yard line. Until Cousins put his touch on it.
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Barry has a good point.
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No, the play call was fine. The problem is the pass rusher did NOT bite on the play-action run fake. He just kept coming. It was just good defense. Throw the ball away and play another down; situational football.
After the game Cousins took full responsibility for his error. It reminded me of a Christian Ponder post game press conference.
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Ponder also was very intelligent, just not too football intelligent. Wrong line of work for both of them. But Kirk got the money.
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We came back largely because of the run. Mattison is averaging 5 yards per run. CJ Ham could of made a few yards as well. first down and on the 8 in my opinion should have been a run an a couple of downs. You don't throw to a guy who was well covered like that. But that's part of being a fan, you can praise when things are going well and complain about it when things go sour. I'll be on the edge of my couch on Sunday. Usually I don't start with a beer or cocktail at noon but after the 1st quarter last Sunday I told my wife I need a cocktail right now LOL. good luck.
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I did the same thing RH. It's the stress. LOL I am looking forward to the game but guarded about it. Of course the sports guys on the radio are laughing about what if in the last few seconds of the game Carlson kicks it through for a win for Oakland. I would laugh too even though I want the Vikes to win of course.
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Carlson actually missed a field goal today, but he is doing great with the Raiders and I'm happy for him. Even Zimmer said "We probably pulled the plug too soon on him". I had to work today so I only got to watch the end of the 3rd quarter and all of the 4th. They looked good today. the run game was great and our defense played solid for the most part. Cook is a awesome RB. Mattison is looking good also. Our O line playing well also. So it's the Bears next Sunday at 3:30 pm at the Bears. Good luck.
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I see where they're sayin Beebe could miss quite a bit of time with torn ligaments in his ankle :sad: so they've re-signed Treadwell. No surgery planned for now, going to look at it again in a week & go from there. No word yet on who'll take over returning punts.
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I read that we have to pay him for this year whether he plays or not. May as well use him. I hope he does great.
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I see where they're sayin Beebe could miss quite a bit of time with torn ligaments in his ankle :sad: so they've re-signed Treadwell. No surgery planned for now, going to look at it again in a week & go from there. No word yet on who'll take over returning punts.
:reporter; Never frettttt..... :tut:
"Da bears" will return yer punts....After day strip da ball from yer punt returner! :blues brothers:
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AND Like Greg Coleman said "don't have a receiver be a snap holder. If they get hurt you lose 2 positions. That's exactly what we did. Actually 3 as he ran back kicks too.
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HEY!!! the Vikes brought back Marcus Sherels. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1: That is great news. Chicago may as well not even show up now.
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And I was saying Sunday I wished they wouldn't have signed this great talent away....he's back!!! Yay! :happy1: :dancinred:
Rochester native Marcus Sherels has been re-signed by the Minnesota Vikings. The 31-year-old Sherels is the franchise's all-time leading punt returning.
EAGAN — The Vikings on Tuesday brought back some familiar faces.
That includes Rochester John Marshall and University of Minnesota graduate Marcus Sherels.
Due to an ankle injury to Chad Beebe, the Vikings re-signed wide receiver Laquon Treadwell, who was waived on Aug. 31, and brought back punt returner Sherels, who played with them from 2010-18.
To make room on the roster, the Vikings placed Beebe on injured reserve and waived linebacker Devante Downs.
Beebe suffered an ankle injury in Sunday’s 34-14 victory over the Oakland Raiders, and a source said an MRI revealed he has torn ligaments. Surgery might not be needed, but Beebe must miss at least at least eight weeks while he is on injured reserve.
Sherels was not offered a contract by the Vikings when he became a free agent last spring. He signed a one-year deal with the New Orleans Saints, but was waived at the end of the preseason and an injury settlement was reached. Sherels is now healthy.
Beebe was the Vikings’ No. 3 receiver and their punt returner. Treadwell will provide depth at receiver and Sherels, who also plays cornerback, will return to the role in which he has excelled.
The 31-year-old Sherels is tied for first in Vikings franchise history with a 10.4 yard career punt-return average (208 for 2,171 yards) and holds the franchise record with five career punt return touchdowns. He ranked second in the league from 2012-15 with 1,230 punt return yards and was tied for second in that same four-year span with three punt return scores.
Treadwell, a first-round draft pick in 2016, underachieved in his first three seasons with the Vikings, making just just 56 catches for 517 yards in 31 games.
However, Treadwell knows the system and could fit right back in with the Vikings, who are short on receivers. The only other healthy receivers on the roster are starters Adam Thielen and Stefon Diggs, and rookie Bisi Johnson.
Treadwell is expected to practice Wednesday and be in uniform for Sunday’s game at Chicago. He is a native of Crete, Ill., a Chicago suburb.
Beebe was hurt with 3:14 left in the third quarter Sunday when he was called for an illegal block above the waist on Raiders linebacker Vontaze Burfict. He was limping after the play and then replaced by Johnson.
Treadwell had an amicable departure from the Vikings last month. He told the Pioneer Press then he was impressed with how Vikings general manager Rick Spielman handled his exit.
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I heard 1 of the TV guys say that when 1 of our O lineman(Kline(?)) got hurt early on Sunday & had to leave the field that the player replacing him was 1 of only 2 subs we had for that position then. I'm not sure :scratch: if that is 'cause of injuries or depth of the roster but that will NEVER make it very far during the season. :doah: The last 2-3 seasons over 1/2 of our starters there have been out before the season is 1/2 done. :bonk: :tut:
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Ya that doesn't sound like very good depth at all.
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:scratch: They must've meant just for that game as I found 9 OL on their active roster. :happy1: :cool: Plus 1 on the practice squad.
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With the way last nights game ended, it's a good day to be a Vikings fan. :happy1: :cool: Kind of reminded me of our game at Lambeau, when GB didn't even try to run from the 1 :tut: & gettin picked off instead. :crazy:
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Lookin for another big game from the Dalvin Cook & the O line. Still won't be EZ & might need to run the ball 40 times or more to keep Hicks & Mack off Cousins. All the RB's need to have a good day picking up the blitzes too. :cheerleader:
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:reporter;
This just in... Minnesota Vkings.... Breaking News!
:doah:
9/29/19 11:01am
Dalvin Cook expected not to play today :pouty: .....Out with flu like symptions. :puke:
Stay tuned for more Fake News!..... :bonk:
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:doofus: your scared aint ya Lee!!!!!!!!!! :super smiley: :laughroll: :laughroll: i'd petition the league to allow like 14 defenders on the field to help stop him!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Wa hoppenin :confused: :coffee:
Is it like Da Bears are makin it look easy. :scratch:
Or
Is it like da vikes are makin it look easy :rotflmao:
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Wa hoppenin :confused: :coffee:
Is it like Da Bears are makin it look easy. :scratch:
Or
Is it like da vikes are makin it look easy :rotflmao:
its da crooked officials!!!!!!!!!!!! :doah: :doah: :censored: :confused:
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Cousins sucks!!! :confused: :confused: :angry2: :pouty:
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Hoo boy....think I'll watch a movie. :rolleyes:
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The guy can't get rid of the ball or hold on to it. Good QB's throw the ball away while under pressure or make a quick pass. good luck.
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Question answered.
Don't worry about coming out of the woods Sunday afternoon, this fall! :undecided:
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What a boring @$$ game. Three words describe the Vike's performance: Stink, stank & stunk. :angry:
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Then to top it off gotta listen to Tony Homo! :doofus: :puke:
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And I used to get crap for following the GOOD players from the Vikes down to Tampa Bay... they were just like this today, and every other year. At least TB won a SB and a Division. :rolleyes:
O, and Lee................. :bow:
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Wa hoppenin :confused: :coffee:
Is it like Da Bears are makin it look easy. :scratch:
Or
Is it like da vikes are makin it look easy :rotflmao:
its da crooked officials!!!!!!!!!!!! :doah: :doah: :censored: :confused:
I didn't know dat day were in a union.....Tanks fur da heads up! :happy1:
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Zimmer thinks he is such a tough guy. Well he sure doesn't know how to show it on the football field. Cousins SUCKS!!!! Anyone who is responsible for him being here for that much money should get fired along with him!!! We are sunk!! I really do thing Kuviak is here to end up being our head coach. Make Zim D guy with supervision. OR just let him go. I am not impressed with him anymore. You do realize our season is over!!!!
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Wa hoppenin :confused: :coffee:
Is it like Da Bears are makin it look easy. :scratch:
Or
Is it like da vikes are makin it look easy :rotflmao:
its da crooked officials!!!!!!!!!!!! :doah: :doah: :censored: :confused:
I didn't know dat day were in a union.....Tanks fur da heads up! :happy1:
:crazy: :doofus: :scratch: :scratch:
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SKOL!!! you guys shoupd bebashamsed. our team!!! skol!!!!
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you guys shoupd bebashamsed our team!!!
We are! :puke:
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I will enjoy the bashing on KFAN this morning.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/kirk-cousins-is-the-problem-in-minnesota-and-adam-thielen-knows-it-030528155.html
this is interesting!!
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Too much room for their WR's on the 1st series, Cousin's fumbles, then he missed Thielen when he was wide open on the only deep shot of the 1/2. :thumbs: :pouty: Then they wait 'til there's only ~ 6 minutes left to go no huddle & throw some quick passes to Diggs. :crazy: :tut: :doofus: :bonk: 'Bout turned it at 1/2 time, should've. :mad1:
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Zimmer's big ego is in his own way now. He treated Keenum like crap as he won game after game and everyone in the locker room liked him and they all got along great. Just like Carlson the kicker that no it all Zimmer kicked off the team. I like Bailey kicking but Zimmer blew it on Keenum and now he has noone else to blame other than himself and Spielman. There was one play where Cousins was rolling out to the left. He was 2 yards ahead of the nearest defender. He just noticed him behind him and he sort of twitched big time like oh oh that guy is going to get me. He is scared out there.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/kirk-cousins-is-the-problem-in-minnesota-and-adam-thielen-knows-it-030528155.html
this is interesting!!
Seen that early too, mike. Not like Thielin either, he's usually pretty quiet. Their backup QB outplayed Cousins badly.
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Ya I wouldn't even want Cousins as a backup. He is doing exactly what the Redskins fans said he would do here.
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Ya I wouldn't even want Cousins as a backup. He is doing exactly what the Redskins fans said he would do here.
And in other news...
Case Keenum is doing in Washington exactly what the Vikings front office staff was afraid he'd do here if we kept him. :bonk:
Still, I think I'd rather have Case at $7 Mil (with a ton of money to pay a beefed up offensive line) than $28 for a "game manager" and an O-line that is still over-matched after two years of being identified as the teams biggest liability. Thanks, Spielman.
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I'd like to think Case would be playing behind a better team here but maybe not...
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Wa hoppenin :confused: :coffee:
Is it like Da Bears are makin it look easy. :scratch:
Or
Is it like da vikes are makin it look easy :rotflmao:
its da crooked officials!!!!!!!!!!!! :doah: :doah: :censored: :confused:
I didn't know dat day were in a union.....Tanks fur da heads up! :happy1:
:crazy: :doofus: :scratch: :scratch:
I agree. And the last time I bow to him.
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Zimmer's big ego is in his own way now. He treated Keenum like crap as he won game after game and everyone in the locker room liked him and they all got along great. Just like Carlson the kicker that no it all Zimmer kicked off the team. I like Bailey kicking but Zimmer blew it on Keenum and now he has noone else to blame other than himself and Spielman. There was one play where Cousins was rolling out to the left. He was 2 yards ahead of the nearest defender. He just noticed him behind him and he sort of twitched big time like oh oh that guy is going to get me. He is scared out there.
Told ya that when they first got him!!! Evident as hell then! He's a wusscake! Reminds me of a certain QB that was always laying down instead of running it... :rolleyes:
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Don't be so down and out boys. :pouty: Da Vikes will still have a chance ta redeem dem selves when day...... "play Da Bears again!" :doah:
NFC North W L T
Green Bay Packers Packers 3 1 0
Chicago Bears Bears 3 1 0
Detroit Lions Lions 2 1 1
Minnesota Vikings Vikings 2 2 0 :embarrassed:
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How about Kansas City!!! :shocked:
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How about Kansas City!!! :shocked:
:happy1: NE had a hard time with the Bills too. TB beat the Rams, Saints & Teddy beat the Cowboys, & the Browns beat the Ravens in Baltimore. :scratch: :crazy:
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Ya! :cheesy:
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Don't be so down and out boys. :pouty: Da Vikes will still have a chance ta redeem dem selves when day...... "play Da Bears again!" :doah:
NFC North W L T
Green Bay Packers Packers 3 1 0
Chicago Bears Bears 3 1 0
Detroit Lions Lions 2 1 1
Minnesota Vikings Vikings 2 2 0 :embarrassed:
:tut: If you try out for their open QB spot, we'd have a real good chance of winnin. 'Cause I don't think Daniel is gonna make it 'til we play again. :evil: :nerd: :nerd:
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USA TODAY Sports
CHICAGO 16, MINNESOTA 6
:pouty: ....
VIKINGS (2-2): It's obvious Minnesota goes as its running game goes. With Dalvin Cook tearing it up, the Vikings are highly competitive. But when the Vikings run into a great defense such as Chicago's, Kirk Cousins eventually has to make throws. Of course he is capable, but when Minnesota doesn’t have balance in its attack, its quarterback and work-in-progress offensive line are exposed. That makes Minnesota one of the most transparent teams in the league. In Week 4, Cook and Alexander Mattison combined for just 40 rushing yards. Even with Stefon Diggs (seven catches for 108 yards) thriving, the Vikings once again showed us what they truly are. GAME GRADE: C-minus | NEXT GAME: at Giants (Sun.)
-- Matt Williamson
:bow: ......
BEARS (3-1): Sometimes there's such thing as a good injury. That's a brutal thing to say about Mitch Trubisky, but Chicago's offense is better without him in the lineup. Chase Daniel (22-for-30, 195 yards, 1 TD) took over early in the first quarter, when Trubisky was ruled out with a left shoulder injury. Daniel is never going to wow us. He won’t make difficult throws like Trubisky can. He won’t make big plays with his legs like Trubisky can. But he can play winning football with this supporting cast because he is smart and efficient. In a nasty defensive struggle, Daniel’s ball placement and decision making (especially compared to Trubisky’s) really stood out in a positive light. GAME GRADE: B + | NEXT GAME: at Raiders (Sun.)
-- Matt Williamson
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If you listen to sports talk radio, most folks are ready to throw in the towel on Cousins.
What say ye?
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Like minds think alike. I tuned in here to see if there was any Vikes talk. :happy1: Ya I soak up the Cousins bashing. I'm sure he is a nice guy. BUT when you are a high paid athlete you open yourself up for criticism. Cousins was in a unique position by being the only Veteran QB available at the time we got him. He is one heck of a salesman and got way over the price that he is actually worth. He is getting roughly $2 mil a game I believe. I think he knew that if he got that kind of money that he is done when it is over. I bet he was shell shocked when he did get that much. Well I think he is just going with the flow just waiting to get all of these games done. Then he can laugh every day the rest of his life knowing what he got... There is not much Viking in Cousins. And how long will the Wilf's let this go on? I think some heads are going to roll on this like Spielman and maybe even Zim. Although Zim can say it was Spielmans job not his to buy players. Now they are afraid to bench him or they will really look stupid. I think Mannion is no fireball but would like to see what he's got. We have no QB on our roster. ???????
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I agree. Don't forget all the training camp he had to get it together, too.... :thumbs:
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Here is something to think about. I wonder what Mike McCarthy is doing now for fun??? He's the Packers last Head Coach ya know.....
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KFAN is going to have some juicy stats on our QB next.
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Every year when a player isn't doing what is expected from him the fans, including me get tough on them. Why not, they get big money and we want a win. Cousins didn't ask to come here, the Vikings did. They gave him a contract nobody could refuse. That being said Cousins against winning teams is something like 5 wins against 25 or more losses. Not good. He holds the ball too long. He doesn't throw the long ball enough. ect. In his defense and there is not much, the O line didn't help him much but then again those fumbles didn't help the team. Remember against the Packers he said he has to protect the ball. Didn't learn from that statement I guess. I also think that the Bears coaching staff did a much better game plan than our staff including Zimmer. Many games ahead. good luck.
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Maybe they should bring back Les Steckel and do locker room prayers again.... :rolleyes:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Hey! This place might have a coach free...... :scratch:
https://kttc.com/news/iowa-news-from-the-associated-press/2019/10/01/grinnell-cancels-season-after-losing-11-players-to-injuries/
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Well, there is always next year.
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Yup, heard that before....
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Well, there is always next year.
Isn't that the Vikings victory chant?
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Come on boys! :tut: Yous' guys need ta lighten up :tut: Da season is way early. SOooooo, pull yourselves ta-gedder. :crazy: Us bear fans :blues brothers: are depending on yous' ta defeat dem Packers Please! :bow:
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Ha! And Glenn's gonna invite us all over for his WF 'sketti, too! :doofus:
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Yes, Lee is right. Way too early. Lot of things can happen. The other teams in our division mostly play the same schedule as we do except a game or two. Injuries will play a part and the other teams will loose games as well. But it does look like a year where all of the teams in our division are doing well up to this point as far it's a tight race so far. Not like in some divisions where they have some 0-4 stats. good luck.
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Yup that's right. Early in the season.
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Come on boys! :tut: Yous' guys need ta lighten up :tut: Da season is way early. SOooooo, pull yourselves ta-gedder. :crazy: Us bear fans :blues brothers: are depending on yous' ta defeat dem Packers Please! :bow:
Ok, but only under one condition. We trade our starting QB, for your backup. Even up.
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Come on boys! :tut: Yous' guys need ta lighten up :tut: Da season is way early. SOooooo, pull yourselves ta-gedder. :crazy: Us bear fans :blues brothers: are depending on yous' ta defeat dem Packers Please! :bow:
Ok, but only under one condition. We trade our starting QB, for your backup. Even up.
Hey Glenn!
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Do we still get a WF 'sketti dinner? Mikey told me to ask. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Sure has been a lot on Facebook the last two days about a trade rumor about Diggs going to the Patriots. Fake news??? Has to be but sure is a lot of talk. Diggs was listed absent from practice today with no reason. It has to be just a rumor. If not they would have to get a ton for him. But they are light on recievers just like the Patriots. I say BS. good luck.
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I heard there was some rumors going around but didn't hear what they were. I sure wish we would have got Garroffalo from the Patriots when the 49ers got him. So what are we supposed to be getting from them if this Diggs rumor is real?
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HEY!!! YOU MEAN TOM BRADY IS COMING TO THE VIKINGS???? RIGHT ON!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: I suppose we will get a first or second round draft pick too.
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*JUST OUT* (6:00 PM) *NO TRADE FOR DIGGS*
https://thespun.com/nfl/nfc-north/minnesota-vikings/nfl-insider-has-update-on-stefon-diggs-trade
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Well you took the fun right out of that. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: So no Brady you are saying??
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I'll answer with a Glenn retort: Maybe. :pouty: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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*JUST OUT* (6:00 PM) *NO TRADE FOR DIGGS*
https://thespun.com/nfl/nfc-north/minnesota-vikings/nfl-insider-has-update-on-stefon-diggs-trade
:happy1: He's just in the 2nd year of a 5 year deal, so I don't think he's going anywhere. Zimmer might :scratch: be gone before he is IMO. :doah: ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
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I'll be willing to listen to Diggs' mea culpa, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for it. Here is his contract.
Stefon Diggs signed a 5 year, $72,000,000 contract with the Minnesota Vikings, including a $15,000,000 signing bonus, $40,007,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $14,400,000. In 2019, Diggs will earn a base salary of $8,900,000, a roster bonus of $468,750 and a workout bonus of $100,000.
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Good work on the stats Steve. Didn't make sense to me to trade him, but there was a ton of speculation about it. It started from what I saw about a emoji that had no face on it. To me I thought it meant no comment [about not getting enough passes or passes thrown]. good luck.
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/vikings-reportedly-tell-team-interest good luck.
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I would have liked to read that RH. But CBS deleted it evidently. Darn.
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I would have liked to read that RH. But CBS deleted it evidently. Darn.
Knowing CBS, they probably reported something else without facts! :coffee:
Please someone, find a news clip where the Vikings traded Cousins! :happy1: :happy1:
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The article said that Diggs was on the trading block at one point. It said that Diggs was very upset over the Bears game. that may have been the reason he was a no show at practice on Wednesday. Anyway the team told the players that he won't be traded. Diggs brother also said he may get traded. So according to the article the rumor was true but it's in the past now. He does get emotional. I remember the stupid penalty he took after he scored a TD and then took his helmet off which cost the team. I do like it when players get emotional in a productive way but not getting a penalty. good luck.
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I saw rumblings about a trade involving Brady for Diggs on Twitter several days ago. The Tweet was totally fabricated just to get a reaction. My involvement on Twitter is primarily ag related but you learn real fast on that medium to take everything with a grain of salt as there are basically no filters. It's a free for all reminding me of the old DNR forums! :rotflmao:
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I would have liked to read that RH. But CBS deleted it evidently. Darn.
Click on the NFL in the blue at the top LPS & it's there.
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I wonder who the team was. Remember this last offseason Diggs brother who plays for the Redskins took a pic of our Diggs in a Redskins jersey. Maybe they are interested.
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Some of the stuff I read they were talking the eagles but wasn't likely until AFTER the Vikings play the eagles.
Just another over paid football player whining he's not getting the ball enough. :pouty: and I loved his sticky hands commercial. :pouty:
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Sounds like they'd be in the running for someone who can catch the ball. Read a graphic somewhere (Twitter? :rotflmao:) where they were tops in the league for catches muffed that should've been made.
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Talked to a guy I know who follows football like crazy. Lives for it. He heard the Vikings wanted a no. 1 draft pick for him. So if that was the case it would be a loosing team that he would be traded to. Must of fell apart. Can always make a deal next year if that's the case. good luck.
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I would have liked to read that RH. But CBS deleted it evidently. Darn.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/vikings-reportedly-tell-team-interest good luck.
I fixed the link...
Vikings reportedly tell team interested in Stefon Diggs that the receiver will not be traded (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/vikings-reportedly-tell-team-interested-in-stefon-diggs-that-the-receiver-will-not-be-traded/)
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How would you like to be a head coach of a professional sports team?
Coaches know there is no substitute for talent. You can't coach it into players, so you need to put up with the antics of athletes who have been coddled their whole lives and now feel entitled to all that money, whether they put in a full day's work or not.
Last time I checked, this is a team sport, and everyone relies on you to be there everyday, not just Sundays.
However, the better you are, the more rope you get.
But what do I know?
Good luck. Indeed.
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Yup a bunch of Divas used to getting their behinds kissed. Although they aren't all like that. BUT yes some are.
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My fear is if they don't throw the man some balls soon, he will be the one looking for a trade! :doah:
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So I switched to HD cable with a DVR here so I could watch the Vikes game this weekend. As you know Dish and Fox are squabbling. No matter who's fault it is its not on so bye bye Dish. They just got done hooking it all up. So clear it is kind of weird. Well I am on the phone canceling my Dish service. The cancel service area has a 24 minute wait. I don't think a company wants that department to be that busy.
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Not the first time Dish and Fox went at it. The first time they did it I switched to cable. Friend of mine said to use a ap like Hulu. Checked it out and we saved almost $180 per month. Have to have a smart TV. Get all the games plus a ton of channels. Also got a antenna and hooked it up. Get all the local channels and movies ect. Total $48 per month. I will never look back. good luck.
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Here is Diggs getting interviewed today. Not a happy guy. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/stefon-diggs-on-trade-rumors-there .good luck. Looks like after I clicked it on here it didn't work. Maybe Steve can work his magic again.
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Here is Diggs getting interviewed today. Not a happy guy. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/stefon-diggs-on-trade-rumors-there .good luck. Looks like after I clicked it on here it didn't work. Maybe Steve can work his magic again.
Stefon Diggs on trade rumors: 'There's truth to all rumors,' unclear if Vikings 'want me' (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/stefon-diggs-on-trade-rumors-theres-truth-to-all-rumors-unclear-if-vikings-want-me/)
Diggs didn't exactly deny that he's at odds with the team, responding to a question about trade rumors with this: "There's truth to all rumors."
"I won't be speaking on that," Diggs added, per The Athletic. Later in his media session, however, the wideout returned to the subject, saying, "I feel like there's truth to all rumors, regardless on what it is -- good or bad. I can't say what's real and what's not."
Asked whether he's requested a trade, Diggs said he personally hasn't communicated anything like that to the Vikings. But he also wouldn't rule out that his agent had done so for him.
"I haven't spoken to him," Diggs said. "You got to talk to him."
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I read that even in the preseason workouts he had something bothering him. Maybe it is the run first philosophy in general that is bothering him.
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In general I think if you are on contract and accept the contract and getting paid better than Thielen then you should do all you can to help the team, not just yourself. It's not good to have a disgruntled worker in the workplace. Not in a company or a NFL team. Especially if your getting millions. It's not about one person, Diggs is not the head coach nor any coach. You get a play called and it gets excecuted. This complaining will do him no good in the future. Teams will think, yes he will help our team, but is it worth his emotional outbursts that could disrupt the team. The Patriots don't put up with those antics and the Vikings should do the same. good luck.
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Another Randy Moss type problem? :scratch:
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i'd bench that whiny little brat!!!!!!!!!! show him. :happy1:
but den i guess thats why i'm not an NFL head coach!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Thank god! :doah:
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Thank god! :doah:
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https://sports.yahoo.com/cfl-quarterback-claims-rejected-vikings-172728990.html
say what????
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Ya....say what? :confused: :bonk:
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https://sports.yahoo.com/cfl-quarterback-claims-rejected-vikings-172728990.html
say what????
Typical Vikings. Typical NFL.
Spielman says, "I paid Kirk $84 Mil, therefore he is better than you (Bo Levi Mitchell), because I can't be wrong, until they fire me, and then its still Kirk's fault and not mine, because he is the one who sucked, not me."
Wasn't that also a problem with Ponder? Weren't they afraid to have a legitimate quarterback competition because they were afraid they'd shatter his confidence? Or was that Bridgewater? I forget.
This is the hallmark of a wussie front office. Spielman is gone after this year and - for good or ill - they'll send Zimm packing with him.
And that doesn't necessarily mean that Kubiak will automatically be the next coach either. When they get a new GM, that guy usually gets to pick his own head coach. If not, that tells you the disfunction in the organization goes all the way to ownership.
Good luck. There is only 1 3/4 seasons left in the Kirk Cousins era.
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Any good organization would have given him the job since he said "I'm gonna take his job". That is what a good applicant should say. I was hired for a job out of many applicants once because I said when asked what I saw as my future if hired, I said, "I want your job". to the Supervisor. They smiled and I got the job. Was there for 11 years and enjoyed it.
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Ya, we had a guy who was interviewed and I was the meat manager so they sent him to me after they talked to him to see what I thought. I asked him if he would like to be a meat manager down the line or soon if a opening came up. He said no, I don't want to be a part of management. He said I like to come here, punch in, and given a meat list to cut for the day and get it done. I told the store manager to hire him. I have seen too many wana be managers in my time that just don't pan out.
He turned out to be one of the best workers they ever had. Never a problem and worked his arse off every day. I liked his honesty and work ethic. Down the line we see guy's who can step up. But they also have to have that same work ethics. Kind of like football.
I'm just a couch potato "expert" and follow the Vikings only for the most part. I like the guy's attitude saying I would go there and take Kirk's job. Great attitude but he has to prove himself just like any other back up. If it's true that the Viking guy say's no, no, no we don't want that. Well that's the wrong thing to say. It's not often a back up QB takes over the starting job coming to camp. It take's years or a bad injury. So good attitude but not reality. Not defending Cousins but he had awesome stats last year. Still we didn't go all the way. What would he do if we had a O line like the Patriots and the same great recievers we have now along with our running backs. None of what we are saying now would be the same. It's not about one guy, it's about the whole team, coaches and staff. It's early, 2 and 2. good luck.
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Well put, RH! :happy1: And I agree... I found the "show dogs" to be the ones that couldn't do and didn't WANT to do the real work. Buncha whiners. I hate crybaby's.
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Well, it looks like Diggs got fined by the Vikings for missing practice and meetings. Press asked Zimmer if he will play this Sunday. He said we will see. They asked Zimm how he looked in practice. Zimm said I have to look at the tape. So it continues. When is the trading deadline anyway? good luck.
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Ahh....so he'll miss more, they'll fine him again.....reasons on both sides to now fly the coop.
That's the way I see it. Set it up; give yerself an excuse. Bye-bye birdie.
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So they still have time with Diggs. Oct. 29th at 4pm is the deadline for trades. I hope if they trade him it will be a team that will have a poor record and demand a 1st round draft pic for him. If not a 1st round pick then they should get a couple of established O lineman and draft picks. His attitude should not be accepted if he keeps this up. Fining him won't make him a happy camper. good luck.
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So they still have time with Diggs. Oct. 29th at 4pm is the deadline for trades. I hope if they trade him it will be a team that will have a poor record and demand a 1st round draft pic for him. If not a 1st round pick then they should get a couple of established O lineman and draft picks. His attitude should not be accepted if he keeps this up. Fining him won't make him a happy camper. good luck.
We all know who usually ends up gettin these guys, the team everybody loves....................to hate. B & B/NE & they never give up high draft picks for 'em. :tut: I still say that with Diggs's contract that Zimmer & maybe Speilman are both more likely gone before he is.
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Just heard 1 of their (ESPN Sportcenter) experts, Louis Riddick a former NFL player & front office guy, say that the Vikings are not utilizing the guys who are getting most of the $. He went on to say that if the HC, OC, & GM aren't all all the same page :tut: something needs to & will change, especailly if they lose to the Giants. :sad: The Wilfs will not be happy. :angry2:
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Boy he's got that right!! Read yesterday about the Vikes trading to get Foles who was available in the draft when we got Ponder I believe he said.. Or Josh Rosen I have also heard as a target for the Vikes too. Now everyone is calling the Vikes for trades with Diggs.
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If they trade him, I think :scratch: I might turn into a NE fan. :tut: :sad: :mad1: Maybe even a Bears fan or worse of all a GB fan. :rolleyes: :pouty:
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How can you speak such debauchery and filth?! This is a wholesome family site!!! :censored:
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See, even the fans are on the verge of a revolt. :sleazy:
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So they still have time with Diggs. Oct. 29th at 4pm is the deadline for trades. I hope if they trade him it will be a team that will have a poor record and demand a 1st round draft pic for him. If not a 1st round pick then they should get a couple of established O lineman and draft picks. His attitude should not be accepted if he keeps this up. Fining him won't make him a happy camper. good luck.
We all know who usually ends up gettin these guys, the team everybody loves....................to hate. B & B/NE & they never give up high draft picks for 'em. :tut: I still say that with Diggs's contract that Zimmer & maybe Speilman are both more likely gone before he is.
I don't think draft pics would be the choice with NE. They would be low pics in any round since they have such great winning records. If it would be them it would be players since they have so many good ones in my opinion. If the vikings want a no. 1 pick they would trade him to teams like Miami for example. They got till Oct. 29 to decide if at all. Who knows Diggs and Thielen may get a lot of passes today since I heard that the Giants defensive backs are terrible. good luck.
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I will stop watching football before I become a packers fan.
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That would be a tough pill to swallow. I like John Deere tractors but don't want my favorite NFL team being the same color as a tractor.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Wait a minute.....what's purple? Oh ya, the team coach. Goofy grape.
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See, even the fans are on the verge of a revolt. :sleazy:
:happy1: Been a diehard Viking fan since I was young but they are workin on making me change my mind. :bonk: :tut: :angry2:
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Really hard :scratch: for me to believe that the way Miami is tankin in order to get the top pick that they would be willin to trade away a #1. Now 1 of the 3 teams(NYJ, Broncos, & Cinn) that are trying to win but can't, I might believe. :rolleyes:
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We should win this game handily. Kurt Warner said all of the Vikings fans will be happy after this game. He said we will see 275 yards passing and about 28 passes today. Will make everyone happy.
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We should win this game handily. Kurt Warner said all of the Vikings fans will be happy after this game. He said we will see 275 yards passing and about 28 passes today. Will make everyone happy.
:happy1: Cousins has that at 1/2 time. What a difference, the Offense has been on the field most of the 1/2. :cool:
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Really hard :scratch: for me to believe that the way Miami is tankin in order to get the top pick that they would be willin to trade away a #1. Now 1 of the 3 teams(NYJ, Broncos, & Cinn) that are trying to win but can't, I might believe. :rolleyes:
:scratch: Forgot that the Skins & Cards are in the same boat. :bonk:
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-fine-wr-diggs-more-than-dollar200000/ar-AAIlWty?li=BBnb7Kz
interesting...
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I missed the second half....Gunner, ya got a synopsis? Anyone? Bueller? ;)
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Second half we played well, especially the defense. Giants had good chances to score but they screwed them pretty much themselves with the help of our defense. Great game. Thielen was the star of the game with Cook tied right there with him. good luck.
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Thanks, RH! How'd we do on penalties today?
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Too many. Some on the defensive backs that could of gone either way. Still have to work on those. good luck.
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I was glad to see them throwin on 1st & 2nd downs right from the beginning. :happy1: Good to see 'em rollin Cousins out too & get him away from the pressure. In the 2 games we've lost the O line & the backs haven't done a very good job giving him time to throw. Cook in particular sucked in the Bears game, hardly even touchin his guy a few times. :sad:
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I got a sneaky feeling the Diggs saga ain't a think of the past yet. :bonk:
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:pouty: I can't believe dat DA Bears :blues brothers: are tied wit dem low life Vikes :rotflmao:
Da best part is dat we will pass dem boys up in da standings next week wit out even having ta suit-up. Da Bears gunna jest sit and watch tv to see um um loose. :moon:
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:pouty: I can't believe dat DA Bears :blues brothers: are tied wit dem low life Vikes :rotflmao:
Da best part is dat we will pass dem boys up in da standings next week wit out even having ta suit-up. Da Bears gunna jest sit and watch tv to see um um loose. :moon:
suck it up bucko!!!!!!!!!!!! :mooning: :mooning: by da end of da season your mighty teddy bears will be lookin up at them vikings sitting on the top of da division!!!!!!!!
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Love my Vikings but I didn't think our division was going to be up in the air for any of the teams in it. All four have a shot. I'll be more of a believer if the Vikings beat the Eagles this coming Sunday. If you want to go to the playoffs you have to beat the good teams. good luck.
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Hope they're ready to protect Cousins from that Eagle's solid defense...............
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Yup it will be a good test for us.
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there's a blurb on MSN that says Zimmer's job is on the hotseat if the team doesnt start doing better.
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We kinda figgered that. Jay Gruden went bye-bye the other day.
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there's a blurb on MSN that says Zimmer's job is on the hotseat if the team doesnt start doing better.
Been sayin that since the Bears game & the Diggs saga started. Zimmer & maybe Spielman should be movin on before they trade Diggs IMO. :tut: :bonk:
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We kinda figgered that. Jay Gruden went bye-bye the other day.
cant blame the head coach for the QB being incompetent!!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty:
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:bonk: Sure can :doofus:, Cousins isn't calling the plays. :tut: :thumbs: :pouty:
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:bonk: Sure can :doofus:, Cousins isn't calling the plays. :tut: :thumbs: :pouty:
you been watching????? cousins hasto execute the play!!!!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: :doofus:
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:bonk: Sure can :doofus:, Cousins isn't calling the plays. :tut: :thumbs: :pouty:
you been watching????? cousins hasto execute the play!!!!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: :doofus:
Still hard for him to do with 1 guy around his neck & another grabbing at his ankles!!! I seen 3-4 plays where Cook wiffed on his guy against the Bears. :tut: :bonk:
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:bonk: Sure can :doofus:, Cousins isn't calling the plays. :tut: :thumbs: :pouty:
you been watching????? cousins hasto execute the play!!!!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: :doofus:
Still hard for him to do with 1 guy around his neck & another grabbing at his ankles!!! I seen 3-4 plays where Cook wiffed on his guy against the Bears. :tut: :bonk:
:pouty: :pouty: dont you need to mow the lawn!!!!!!!! :pouty: :tut: i know you dont need to clean fish!!!!!!!! :moon: :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:happy1: :rolleyes: Just finished mowing 'bout an hour ago & cleaned :fish2: yday. :tut: :mooning: So it's HH now. ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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mowed, painted, yup HH!!
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Me too! Just finished mowing the back forty...iced tea HH! :toast:
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:coffee: ......
Rumor has it dat da Vikes locker room was sprayed wit dat flu virus by an Eagles fan. :doah: Dis in hopes dat da Vikes will begin ta show da ill effects just after half time. :puke:
:reporter; .....
Dat's da story goin round on da internet anyhow. :scratch: We'll just have ta see how dis story unfolds! :confused:
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So THAT's where I got it! :angry2:
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:coffee: ......
Rumor has it dat da Vikes locker room was sprayed wit dat flu virus by an Eagles fan. :doah: Dis in hopes dat da Vikes will begin ta show da ill effects just after half time. :puke:
:reporter; .....
Dat's da story goin round on da internet anyhow. :scratch: We'll just have ta see how dis story unfolds! :confused:
Dis could work as an advantage fur da Vikes :happy1:
I mean like when Da Eagles deffensive line rush da QB.... Da Vikes offensive linemen will :puke: in der helmits.
I tink :scratch: I may even have ta watch dis game :rotflmao:
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:coffee: ......
Rumor has it dat da Vikes locker room was sprayed wit dat flu virus by an Eagles fan. :doah: Dis in hopes dat da Vikes will begin ta show da ill effects just after half time. :puke:
:reporter; .....
Dat's da story goin round on da internet anyhow. :scratch: We'll just have ta see how dis story unfolds! :confused:
Dis could work as an advantage fur da Vikes :happy1:
I mean like when Da Eagles deffensive line rush da QB.... Da Vikes offensive linemen will :puke: in der helmits.
I tink :scratch: I may even have ta watch dis game :rotflmao:
If I'm a betting man you watch all the vikes games.. :happy1: :happy1:
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Hot Toddy for Reb I think. Hope you feel better. Had to work today making time and a half union pay like I use to do when I was working 6 days a week for 20 of my 35 plus years. So I did get to see most of the second half. Really like the way they fight back and just keep fighting. They had great spirit today. Diggs did a great job today. He did drop a couple which he said he has to work on.
The play calling was good too. I really thought this was going to be a closer game. Have to hand it to our O line and also our defense. Cousins said he need to play angry and I hope he is pizzed off every game from now on. Good luck.
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:coffee: ......
Rumor has it dat da Vikes locker room was sprayed wit dat flu virus by an Eagles fan. :doah: Dis in hopes dat da Vikes will begin ta show da ill effects just after half time. :puke:
:reporter; .....
Dat's da story goin round on da internet anyhow. :scratch: We'll just have ta see how dis story unfolds! :confused:
:popcorn: .....
Well if dat rumor was true da person dat started it should be ashamed. :pouty: It was quite obvious dat da vikes mus-ta got der flu shots much pryor to da game! All dem boys need now is a Chicago Bears & a Green Bay Packer shot. Dat's since day can't beat e-der of dem. :doah:
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Great to see the big games from Diggs,Thielen, & Cousins yday but the O line had a very good game too IMO. Especially having 2 starters hurt, Mattison was good too :happybounce: :cheerleader:
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Yup fun game. When they started coming back I thought oh no here they come. But the D put the stop on them and the O kept driving. None of that prevent D that gets us beat.
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Agreed. Crummy day outside here so it was fun watching them beat up on the Eagles, especially after their fans behavior a few years back. :happy1:
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Yup fun game. When they started coming back I thought oh no here they come. But the D put the stop on them and the O kept driving. None of that prevent D that gets us beat.
I thought they kind of shot themselves in the foot with the fake FG just before the 1/2. Was gettin a little worried too when they made it 24-20 but those next 2 possessions where we had long drives & got the TD were awesome. :happy1: Zimmer made some good calls on his defense as well & they were able get in Wentz's face then too. :cool:
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:confused: friggin Packers won!! :angry2: :angry2: :pouty: :pouty:
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:confused: friggin Packers won!! :angry2: :angry2: :pouty: :pouty:
:tut: :thumbs: More like were given the game!! Those 2 calls of hands to the face on the Lions DE were :bs:, replay clearly shows his hands were on his shoulders both times. :taz: :pouty: There was a pass interference on a deep pass that should've been called on GB too. :mad1: Even the official in the booth agreed that the guys on the field screwed up those calls. :doah: Quite a bit on this on the early sports talk shows so I'm curious to see what the league has to say about it. :rolleyes: Even Jason brought it up on WCCO just now. 1 TD instead of all those FG's & it wouldn't of mattered. :sad: Sure hope that group of officials aren't doin any Vikes games later on this season.
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I remember a game we played there a couple of years ago. The Packers would get right up to the line and snap the ball so penalties would go in their favor since noone had time to see the replays. Drove me nuts. They never did go back and show us the replays.
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All the teams will try that now but not very many other teams get so many :bs: calls as those %#@~?>< Cheeseheads! :banghead: :taz: :puke: :angry2:
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All the teams will try that now but not very many other teams get so many :bs: calls as those %#@~?>< Cheeseheads! :banghead: :taz: :puke: :angry2:
that cause Erin is a big baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused: :doofus: :pouty:
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I think the rule book is about 750 pages long and way to many "infractions" are up to the whim of the guy with a flag.
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What a joke. Really frustrates me when the refs rule the game instead of the players. Lions were robbed. Seems like Brady and Rodgers get better calls to help them. good luck.
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42 to 30 and the Vikings win. Great game. Have to say Cousins is looking better in my eye's. We have a good team. good luck.
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I agree RH.. Good to see he blended in with the team..
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We have the buy next week so everyone should come back healthy. good luck.
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We have the buy next week so everyone should come back healthy. good luck.
:tut: :tut: sorry Reiny, we play the Redskins Thursday nite this week. The Vikings bye isn't till around turkey day.
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Did you see the end of the game when Cousins was tryin to kneel to kill the clock? One of their D lineman took a bit of a cheap shot :tut: & hit Cousins more than he should've. Cousins got PO'ed & got in his face until 1 of our O lineman seperated 'em. I like seein him get fired up like that 'cause I think he plays better when he's a little chippy. Even heard Zimmer tell a reporter last week that might've been the reason, the LB who mouthed off before the game, he played so good. Great game for the offense :happy1: :cool:, not so sure about the defense though. :doah:
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Ya Cousins is a nerd so to see him actually get mad is almost funny. BUT if that is what makes him play better so be it. I think keeping Zimmer as far away as possible from the offense and special teams the better. He has hard enough time just tending to the defense. Good win team!!!
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:happy1: Yeah. I'm not so sure :scratch: Zimmer doesn't have a picture of Wood Hayes on office wall. ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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I thought it was hilarious when the cameras turned to the fans and seen all those referee jerseys. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:happy1: Seen a bunch of 'em in refs jerseys & clown faces, others with the full face stockin caps over their face too. :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh: They were extra rowdy with every call that didn't go their way to start too, until that long drive in the 3 rd quarter when we started to pull away. :crazy:
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Fun game. I kind of wish we would have kept Cordarrel Patterson just to run back kicks.
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Fun game. I kind of wish we would have kept Cordarrel Patterson just to run back kicks.
:scratch: :scratch: reminds me :scratch: i didnt see Sherels in the game???????? :scratch: :doah:
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Me neither, think :scratch: Abdullah & Hughes ran back everything. Sure hope Thielen's not hurt too bad, those hammies can take a while to comeback from though as it's EZ to re-injure them if they push it. Liked what I saw out of the rookie Johnson though :happy1: & was glad to see Rudolph get more involved too.
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Yep Glen you are right about the bye week. My daughter told my wife that it was a bye week next week. I had to call her and told her she is spreading fake news :rotflmao:. I think they could afford to rest Thielen this Thursday with the Redskins coming to town. Bisi Johnson is doing a good job in his place. But I know he want's to play if he can. Great to see Bridgewater get another win yesterday. Really liked him when he was here. Great character and a good man. The Bears offense is terrible. Starter comes back from injury and was a complete failure. Defense played tired at the end of the game and maybe even sooner. This keeps up they are done. good luck.
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Yep Glen you are right about the bye week. My daughter told my wife that it was a bye week next week. I had to call her and told her she is spreading fake news :rotflmao:. I think they could afford to rest Thielen this Thursday with the Redskins coming to town. Bisi Johnson is doing a good job in his place. But I know he want's to play if he can. Great to see Bridgewater get another win yesterday. Really liked him when he was here. Great character and a good man. The Bears offense is terrible. Starter comes back from injury and was a complete failure. Defense played tired at the end of the game and maybe even sooner. This keeps up they are done. good luck.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: maybe she told your wife that cause she new we were playing the redskins!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
but those are the games that scare me most. i'll be watching it from a hotel room in Bismarck!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gonna pack a snow shovel? ;) :rolleyes: :smiley: J/k just checked the 10 day for out there & it looks like it's 'sposed to be nice. Upper 50's on Friday.
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Say what??!!! :angry2:
Oct 22nd
Sherels released by Vikings
EAGAN — The Minnesota Vikings released Rochester native and long-time NFL punt returner Marcus Sherels on Tuesday.
With Mike Hughes having taken over as the punt returner in last Sunday’s 42-30 win at Detroit, Sherels was inactive. He also plays cornerback, but was deep on the depth chart at that spot.
A source said Monday there was a strong chance the Vikings would sign wide receiver Davion Davis off the practice squad. With the move made on Sherels on Tuesday, Davis remained a candidate to be signed and be available against the Redskins.
Sherels played with the Vikings from 2010-18 and was not offered a contract last March as a free agent. He was re-signed Sept. 24 after punt returner and receiver Chad Beebe was placed on injured reserve with an ankle injury. In three games, Sherrels returned six punts for a 5.5-yard average.
Sherels was asked by the Pioneer Press on Monday about the possibility of being cut.
“I don’t know,’’ he said. “I’m just taking it day by day and helping any way I can. … You can’t really worry about those things.”
Sherels is the leading punt returner in Vikings history with 2,480 yards. He has a career average of 10.5 yards per return.
The Vikings don’t owe Sherels any more money on his prorated minimum contract of $930,000. When he signed Sept. 24 as a vested veteran for the rest of the season, he was guaranteed 25 percent of his salary for all remaining games but he already has earned that 25 percent.
THIELEN HOPES TO PLAY THURSDAY
Vikings wide receiver Adam Thielen isn’t giving up in his quest to keep his consecutive games streak alive. Thielen, who has played in all 87 games in his six-year NFL career, suffered a hamstring injury at Detroit. He didn’t practice Tuesday.
“I don’t know what the percent chance is (on playing), but I feel great,’’ Thielen said before the workout. “Obviously, it’s a short week, so I’m doing everything I can to try to play. It’s come a long way in the two days since the game, so I feel good and am very hopeful for the game.’’
Thielen had an MRI on Monday. A source said afterward that the injury isn’t serious but that Thielen wasn’t expected to play against the Redskins.
“Obviously, as a competitor, as an athlete, you want to play,’’ Thielen said.
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Thanks Reb. Didn't know about Sherels being cut. Makes sense though. good luck.
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Bummer. Doesn't say if BEEBE is back though.
There's been alot of wheeling and dealing in the no fun league that past few days.
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Ten years ago Sunday,
:bow: Brett Favre descended from a clear blue Minnesota sky. :happy1:
An angel landing in a private jet, after years of playing the devil. Vikings fans, the media — shoot, the entire states of Minnesota and Wisconsin — lost their collective minds. :crazy: The Star Tribune's Michael Rand wrote an oral history of that remarkable day — Aug. 18, 2009 — and the Favre Frenzy that came before and after it. :cheerleader:
:coffee: Full Story ......
http://www.startribune.com/the-day-brett-favre-became-a-minnesota-viking-10-year-anniversary/523002451/
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I remember exactly where I was when Rosen said Brett Favre is landing in Ziggy's plane right now. I had to pull over and catch my breath.
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I had to pull over and retch.
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My thought when I heard Favre was coming wasn't that he couldn't play. I just thought that he slit his own throat because he could have made millions playing out the Packers legacy on commercials and endorsements for the rest of his life. :crazy:
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I really wasn't even looking forward to it but when it happened something came over me and I was excited as heck! What a great and fun season that was!
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Sure was! I was in total disbelief when it actually happened. Some of the Packers fans I knew were in absolute tears, literally. They went so far as to tear down their Brett Favre shrines in their basements! :rotflmao:
I still about puke though when I hear these TV guys gushing about what a great guy Sean Payton is. He should've been kicked out of the NFL for good after all the BS the Saints pulled in that playoff game! That may be OK for ultimate fighting but it has no place in the NFL. Then when he's the same guy who gets whacked on some missed calls in a playoff game himself, he whines like a baby and gets pass interference rules changed. :confused: Those changes have made some of these games almost unwatchable with all the replays, delays, thumb twiddling, etc. :bs: If all we're going to do is watch replays, I have better things to do. Like watch a replay of the entire Gophers game! :rotflmao:
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Viking Jim Marshall ran the wrong way 55 years ago this week :pouty:
In this week's installment of "Wayback Wednesday," Tracy Briggs shares the story of a Minnesota Vikings player who became famous for running to the wrong end zone after recovering a fumble.
:coffee: Article.....
https://www.jamestownsun.com/sports/football/4734079-Viking-Jim-Marshall-ran-the-wrong-way-55-years-ago-this-week
:doah: Video..... click on da watch on You Tube feature
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWrUiRvvBmw
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Poor guy. He ain't gonna live that one down. LOL Hope he has a good sense of humor. At least we got 2 pts as a safety and they had to kick the ball to us.
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I remember that it happened but never saw it. In the battle of the game I guess anything can happen. He will remember that the rest of his life. But more than that he can remember being one of the best of the Vikings defense of all time as well. good luck.
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Thielen rulled out for tomorrows game against the skins. No surprise to me. Why play him. We should rule that game. But you never know it's the NFL and anything can happen but I think we will win and go 6 and 2. good luck.
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Yah, hopefully it is not a repeat of the Bills game last year. :pouty:
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Viking Jim Marshall ran the wrong way 55 years ago this week
I heard some interesting Jim Marshall stories on the radio a year or so ago. I think it was Chuck Foreman telling them, but I could be wrong. I hate to misquote.
Jim Marshall was the undisputed team leader on defense and in training camp. And Bud Grant was pleased to let Jim serve in this capacity. If someone needed to "get away" from training camp for a few hours and was going to sneak back in after curfew, they cleared it with Jim first. When it was time to break camp in Mankato and head to Eden Prairie, Jim started the vehicle convoy by pulling out a .45 Colt and shooting it in the air.
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Well that game wasn't pretty but we came out with a win. That's the main thing.
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I would have to agree
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Any of you guys catch ex-Vikings offensive lineman, Alex Boone, trash Adrian Peterson on the radio. Here is a link to the article. It is short and worth a look if you didn't hear Boone's quotes.
Ex-Viking Alex Boone Rips 'Self-Centered' Adrian Peterson's Attitude (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2859403-ex-viking-alex-boone-rips-self-centered-adrian-petersons-attitude)
After that, it was interesting - maybe even instructive - to observe which current Vikings sought out Adrian Peterson after the game for hugs, congratulations, and photo ops. Clearly Peterson was/is a polarizing player.
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Ya, I read that about Boone's comments and if true it doesn't bode well for Peterson. Correct me if I'm wrong but [I didn't check back ] but didn't the undefeated 49rs win against the skins 9 to 0?? The skins have a good defense and it showed last night. Could have been a lot tighter if Keenum stayed in the game. That rookie QB of there's is not ready to be a starter. So we scored 10 more points than the 49rs did.
I was expecting a lot more scoring from us but didn't know anything about their defense. Our defense played well with an exception of a few missed play's. Rhodes made a stupid penalty in the game . So obvious that anyone could of called that on him. He needs to play smarter. Our kicker nailed it for us. And for the first time we never had to punt the ball. I also have to say that Zimmer made a bad call in our 40 yard line going for a 1st down on the 4th down play. Glad our defense held. good luck.
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they also need to do something about ELFLIENS HOLDING!!!!!!!! :confused: :confused: :doofus:
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Ya, I read that about Boone's comments and if true it doesn't bode well for Peterson.
That's what I thought, but when I saw how many folks warmed up to Peterson after the game, it was clearly not the case.
Again Peterson IS polarizing; whether you criticize him for what he did to his son (while getting paid for not playing the whole year) or praise him for his overall hall of fame rushing career.
Clearly teammates from Peterson's glory days came to his defense and new Vikings stars like Cook and Diggs also seem to hold him in high regard. It think it has something to do with the mentality of professional athletes in a skill positions. They HAVE to think they are the best and this is a thought process that does not fit into my simple, lunch pail, work-a-day brain. It is clear Cook and Diggs have something in common with Peterson and maybe I have something in common with Boone (which certainly isn't athletic prowess).
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they also need to do something about ELFLIENS HOLDING!!!!!!!! :confused: :confused: :doofus:
I didn't see the plays, but I heard one call on the radio. Pete Bursich made a comment after one of them where he said Randal McDaniel make a career out of taking out defensive linemen in a similar fashion. He didn't see anything wrong with it and that it was a ticky-tack call. However, if the refs are going to consistently throw the flag, he will have to adjust.
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A lot of them were legit. It was like a broken record, stalling drives and keeping them out of the end zone. "Holding, #65". He's digressed especially since he got injured. Must be the pay cut he took since he left Ohio St.! :happy1:
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I heard the interview with Boone. I think it is probably right on point too. I can see athletes admiring Adrian's toughness but he is not the brightest bulb on the tree. Adrian was taught as a little kid that he had to take the ball and run or he would probably get a whipping from his Dad if he didn't do well. And that if he "done good" everyone loved him. (And his Dad looked good too) That is all he knows and how sad that is. Now as he is getting old it must be hard for him to wonder what he will do when football is over for him.
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they also need to do something about ELFLIENS HOLDING!!!!!!!! :confused: :confused: :doofus:
I hate effin holding too! To many effin holding calls on this team! :tut:
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:azn: :shocked: :shocked:
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I am not defending Adrian in any way neither. All of the kids he has is very low class if not worse. They joked today on the radio that some athlete (I didn't catch who it was) took some time off cuz his wife was having a baby. Paternity Leave. SO what if Adrian utilized that? He would have been gone for half a season with all of the kids being born from him. LOL And now he is out of money so he is actually working for a paycheck that he needs.. Sorry situation all the way around for Adrian. He went through millions of dollars and probably doesn't even own his house free and clear.
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:clap:
and whipping his kids........
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so I hear a Viking player was arrested for 4th degree DWI and carrying with out a permit.. I think Jayron??
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Darn it...
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so I hear a Viking player was arrested for 4th degree DWI and carrying with out a permit.. I think Jayron??
yep....according to the #4 website......JERON Kearse. to bad I liked watching him.
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In jail, with no bail...he ain't gonna sail.... :doah:
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/vikings-jayron-kearse-arrested-sunday-morning-on-suspicion-of-two-charges
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there ya go Glenn read the name!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1:
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there ya go Glenn read the name!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1:
Look out! He'll call ya "picky wicky"! And that, comin' from a dinky winky.... :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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there ya go Glenn read the name!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1:
whatever...…. :pouty: :pouty: picky wicky dolittle!!!!!!!!!!! :mooning: :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:laughroll:
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so I hear a Viking player was arrested for 4th degree DWI and carrying with out a permit.. I think Jayron??
yep....according to the #4 website......JERON Kearse. to bad I liked watching him.
I didn't send the one above!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:popcorn:
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He has been getting pretty good too. SO what did he need a loaded gun for? I wonder if he has any other felonies to where he shouldn't have it?
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Believe it or not, it's pretty common for athletes and stars to carry....I'm just not sure why... :confused:
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In answer to my own question.
As a 14-year-old in 2008, Kearse was among several others in his home city of Fort Myers, Fla., who robbed two females at gunpoint at their victims’ residence.
Addressing the felony case, Kearse told the Anderson (S.C.) Independent Mail a few days before that 2016 draft, “When I did that at 14, my mom was crying. She was hurt. When I was going off to college, she was happy, she was proud of me. So I just always wanted to make sure that whatever I did, I was able to put a smile on my mom’s face.”
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Hoo boy................
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Believe it or not, it's pretty common for athletes and stars to carry....I'm just not sure why... :confused:
It is a thing. Remember that Jim Marshall story (told by Chuck Foreman) that I referenced last week?
I just googled "NFL Player Airport Gun" and the top six results referenced five DIFFERENT players arrested at airports for carrying loaded guns. The other link link in the top six was about two college players who got caught.
We all like watching football on Sundays, but they ain't the brightest bulbs in the drawer nor are they a bunch of choir boys either.
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Oh no, they must all be choir boys......aren't they?
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/
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Very interesting link.
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wow looks at all of those arrests. Sure see a lot of domestics. As far as carrying a gun, I can see it being a well paid player. However, get a permit and follow the rules. Don't get it. They must think they would never be checked. good luck.
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Just thought I would mention LPS sent my grand prize. Received it today. Thanks sir
Now if some other person I won't mention would cough up his donation. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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hea a perfectionist, his sausage takes time. time to figure out the right ratio of exlax so its a continuous flow.
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Well, don't send THAT one to HD!!! :doah: Send him the good stuff!
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hea a perfectionist, his sausage takes time. time to figure out the right ratio of exlax so its a continuous flow.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
i'll send ya rebs address!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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hea a perfectionist, his sausage takes time. time to figure out the right ratio of exlax so its a continuous flow.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
i'll send ya rebs address!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
Where do you want the tanker to unload? :evil:
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HEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYY LEE.......................did ya see where Kirk Cousins was named offensive player of the month in the NFL!!!!! :smoking: :sleazy: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred:
have ya also looked at da power rankings>>>>>>>
vikings #5
da bears #21........................... :pouty: :pouty: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:sorry: :sorry: its rebs fault!!!!!!!!!! :sleazy: :sleazy:
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HEY! Keep me outta this! I'm doing tummy stretches in conjunction for lunch right now....
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Vikings’ Zimmer ‘ticked off’ with news of safety Kearse’s arrest (https://www.foxsports.com/north/story/minnesota-vikings-mike-zimmer-jayron-kearse-mike-hughes-103019)
“I’m very, very ticked off,” Zimmer said on Wednesday. “Since I’ve been here the last six years, I’ve worked extremely hard to clean up the reputation of this organization and this team off the field. We’ve put in a lot of resources for them to not have these kinds of issues, and for them to do that is really idiotic.”
Two other people were in the car with Kearse, including Vikings cornerback Mike Hughes. After Kearse failed a preliminary breath test, according to the criminal complaint, the second officer went to check on the male passenger, Hughes, who had the door open and was vomiting. That’s when the gun was discovered.
“I feel like he let me down. He let the team down. He let his teammates down, the organization down,” Zimmer said.
Kearse apologized for his actions while speaking on Monday to reporters.
“It’s not a reflection of who I am as a person or what this organization stands for,” Kerse said. “The team and these fans deserve better. I definitely take this matter seriously, and I’m sorry for putting anybody in harm’s way and I will go through all the necessary steps to improve myself.”
Really? :confused:
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It has DUMB ASSES written all over it.
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Man that missed extra point best not cost the vikes the game. :angry2: :angry2: :pouty:
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I noticed Kearse is playing today.
Anyone else notice the gray camo sweatshirts there wearing? Noticed it in other games too.
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Those are for the Salute to Service campaign.
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Those are for the Salute to Service campaign.
:happy1: :happy1: :happy1: :USA: :army: :ustroops:
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Cousins sucks!! :angry2: :angry2: :confused:
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How about them Chiefs!
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The Vikes just plain out sucked today. That is all. :thumbs:
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Even further proof that Zimmer is over his head as a Head Coach. Why did he call another time out that led to them making points. Otherwise we had stopped them. DUH!!! Would make a great D Coach as that is his thing. AND Cousins is not the QB for us. He is a pussy that did act like an agressive QB for 4 games but that is not his style. He should retire, give us some money back and go and be a Sunday School teacher. No offense intended neither. I just think he would be great with kids and showing them how to be nice people.
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ON A Side note.....da fudge packers are getting 19 zippo at the moment.
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The thing that might hurt us is the fudge is 3-0 in the division.. We just gave up way too many big plays today, hard time of tackling and yes I couldn't agree with you more lps. Maybe soon we'll truly see why Kubiak is around.
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Looks like everyone in the division lost.
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I have said this before and still think we should give McCarthy whatever he wants to be our Head Coach. He knows how it works...
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From this:
HEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYY LEE.......................did ya see where Kirk Cousins was named offensive player of the month in the NFL!!!!! :smoking: :sleazy: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred:
have ya also looked at da power rankings>>>>>>>
vikings #5
da bears #21........................... :pouty: :pouty: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:sorry: :sorry: its rebs fault!!!!!!!!!! :sleazy: :sleazy:
to this:Cousins sucks!! :angry2: :angry2: :confused:
in 3 days? :scratch: :rolleyes: :crazy: :pouty: :bonk: :laugh: :laugh:
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I didn't name him offensive player of the month. :mooning: :mooning: :tut:
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:doah: Sure looked like you :evil: had fun pointing that out to Lee though. :shocked: :nerd: :nerd:
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I have to agree with Bobber in that they gave up way too many big plays on defense. That long run was made without anyone hardly puttin a hand on him & at least a couple of the long passes to Hill were when there was nobody around. :bonk: Granted Cousin looked bad especially early on but he ended up with 3 TD's & if the ground game does anything that's usually enough. They didn't change the game plan for running the ball quick enough either IMO but kept tryin to run right at their 9 man front & that didn't work from the get go. They should have let Cook run out wide to better use his speed, preferably away from Elflien's side. Even with as bad as they looked I thought they were going to pull it out of their backside until the 27 yard shanked punt. :doah: :pouty:
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... AND Cousins is not the QB for us. ... He should retire, give us some money back and go and be a Sunday School teacher. ... I just think he would be great with kids and showing them how to be nice people.
Good QBs are hard to find. I'm still waiting to see which free agent QB would have been a better option. It wasn't Case K. It might have been Teddy B. - he did well enough for New Orleans in relief of Brees - but the book won't be written on Teddy until he is the starter for a new team and plays a full season. Otherwise, drafting rookie QBs is as much of a crap shoot as ever. You can't say what the answer is until AFTER you have it.
Still, I think its funny how our sports teams end up with "Minnesota Nice" stars. I'm thinking that Kirk Cousins, Joe Mauer, and Zach Parise could host their own Holiday Special on WCCO.
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Yup, great team loss. Defensive secondary has become a liability. Anthony Harris got faked out of his jock and fell on his @$$ on that touchdown run. He has to make that play. He's paid to do that. Never been a big Tre Waynes fan and he continues to get his backside burned when he doesn't get called for interference. Rhodes is a half step slower than he was last year. Smith is still stud but he can't do everything back there to cover for others sloppy play. When he came in free on that blitz late in the game Moore must've about crapped. Cousins bad throws in the first half, not good. Guy can play but he doesn't always execute up to his big $$$$ contract. O line continues to stink. Elflein needs to go back to Ohio St. to learn how to block or get traded to Green Bay where holding is allowed. Only bright spot was the defensive line. They deserved better from their teammates.
Was a pleasure watching the Fudge get beat tho. They still get by with more holding than any other team I know. Refs: Here's a clue. When a defensive lineman with a full head of steam comes to a momentary stop when he's blown by the offensive lineman, guess what just happened? How the refs don't see it or why they choose to ignore it is beyond me. :confused:
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The article I read blamed most of the offensive problems on Stefanski, sayin he didn't follow Kubiak's game plan very well. :tut: Just a little better run game in the 1st 1/2 would've helped Cousins a lot IMO by opening up a lot of the play action stuff they like to do too.
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The article I read blamed most of the offensive problems on Stefanski, sayin he didn't follow Kubiak's game plan very well.
Not slamming you, Gunner, but which article did you read? I'd like to look at it too.
Hearing how tight-lipped NFL coaching staffs are, I'd be hard pressed to believe anyone in the media REALLY knew what Kubiak's game plan was or if Stefanski followed it or not (unless some player or coach threw Stefanski under the bus off the record). The player's still have to execute the plays Kubiak wants them to execute. And if they don't, I'd imagine its Stefanski's job to figure out something on the fly that will work. And you gotta believe Kubiak is on the headset too.
I'm dubious of the article, that's all I'm saying.
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Just heard a guest call in to KFAN and he said the Vikes need to have Rhodes cover big tight ends like Kelse. Kelse isn't fast but is strong and I agree that it would have been great to have Rhodes shadow him. He is big and strong but not as fast as he used to be. Have faster guys cover the outside.
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Had to do some digging Steve-o but I found it again. The title of the article is "Vikings Offense Stalls in KC: Game Notes", it's in The Dailynorseman & looks like the author is some wludford. Check it out & I agree Kubiak has constant input on every play called. :scratch:
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Just heard a guest call in to KFAN and he said the Vikes need to have Rhodes cover big tight ends like Kelse. Kelse isn't fast but is strong and I agree that it would have been great to have Rhodes shadow him. He is big and strong but not as fast as he used to be. Have faster guys cover the outside.
Heard 1 of the guys doing the game mention this too yday when they made 1 of their key 1st downs late LPS. They lined Kelce up outside like a WR & that put a much smaller, 5' 11" - 185 lbs, Mackensie Alexander on him. Kelce goes 6' 5" - 260 #'s, he just turned right in front of the DB & caught the pass. DB couldn't even reach the ball. :confused:
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Sure hope that those 3 plays Thielen played Sunday doesn't set him back too far. We need him out there. They are gonna have to play a lot better than they did the last game to beat the Cowboys on Sunday night
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Sure hope that those 3 plays Thielen played Sunday doesn't set him back too far. We need him out there. They are gonna have to play a lot better than they did the last game to beat the Cowboys on Sunday night
hey........Treadwell did good!!!!!!!! :smoking: :sleazy: :happy1:
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Sure hope that those 3 plays Thielen played Sunday doesn't set him back too far. We need him out there. They are gonna have to play a lot better than they did the last game to beat the Cowboys on Sunday night
hey........Treadwell did good!!!!!!!! :smoking: :sleazy: :happy1:
I know! That's when I knew we were really in trouble though :scratch:, he was our leading receiver at 1/2 time. :shocked:
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I would like to see him turn the corner and become a great receiver. :confused:
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I didn't watch the game until the second half. I agree With the coments above. Could someone tell me why the Vikings called that one time out in the second half that just didn't make sense to me. Still confused what happend. Seemed like the defense was doing a good job and then that time out by Zimmer maybe? I was attacked by grandkids during this and didn't get the why. All I know is I was pizzed off. good luck.
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Ya that that pizzed me off too. I heard on the radio that Rhodes was playing on the side of the field by the coach and he put up his hands like, what am I supposed to do now? Then Zim called it. I think Zim maybe over thinking things and now he has the D confused.... This has happened before. Nice to hear you were having fun with the Grandkids RH.... :happy1:
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Well, I didn't get it either, guys. :confused:
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Thanks LPS. Didn't Rhodes get pulled from the game in the second half? I thought he did but could be wrong. He is just not worth the money he is getting paid this year. good luck.
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He may have. They should have had him cover Kelce the whole game. I think Rhodes is good covering the big guys that aren't so fast. He is a fighter.
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He may have. They should have had him cover Kelce the whole game. I think Rhodes is good covering the big guys that aren't so fast. He is a fighter.
Yea if he don't get caught and called for holding. :confused: :doofus:
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He may have. They should have had him cover Kelce the whole game. I think Rhodes is good covering the big guys that aren't so fast. He is a fighter.
Yea if he don't get caught and called for holding. :confused: :doofus:
Just like holding on the O line, they can call that :bs: on EVERY play if they want. :rolleyes: Ref's discretion on both, they may call something on 1 play & let the same thing go on the next. Did hear 1 announcer say earlier this season though that Rhodes had the most penalties per times thrown at of anybody in the league. Not sure :scratch: he really has changed how he plays, as he's always been a physical type player, as much as it's that the refs have changed the way they call it & he hasn't adjusted to that. :sad:
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Another 1 they were talkin about the other day was the new rule where the coach can challenge a play that no PI was called on but he thinks there was some. I'm not sure how many times they've been asked to review it this season but they haven't overturned the original call even once this season so far. :scratch: :bonk: :thumbs: :pouty:
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Going back to that time out call. According to a fan on facebook on the Viking page it was on 3rd down and the Viking defense rushed the QB and caused a fumble by the KC QB Moore. and it was at that moment Zimmer called the time out when we could have recovered that fumble. It was the fans on that page that said that time out sealed the game for KC. Just like going for a first down on fourth down in our own end. Stupid. Don't like it when it's the coaches that help cause a loss for the team. I think at that moment the defense had momentum and that stupid time out let some air out of that mementum. That's twice now that Zimmer made stupid calls. good luck.
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Ya I'm kind of worried about ol Zimmy. I have liked the guy but his half of the team has cost us some games. I was mad at Cousins but the O put up 23 points. The D gave up 24. SO who's fault was it? The Green Bay game we finally scored some points but the D already gave up 21 points early in the first half. Who's fault was that? He needs to worry about his own half and leave the whole O to someone else and quit calling time outs.
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Just read about how Odell Beckman Jr is frustrated in Cleveland. We all knew that would happen. Do you think he has matured and would fit with Cousins as a Viking? Would he get along with Diggsy and Theilen. It just may work in a weird way. I don't want a diva, Diggsy is enough. BUT just maybe it would work. Like this Sunday at Dallas.... I know that wouldn't happen BUT!!!
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They will need to play a lot better on both sides of the ball to win this week & I expect they will. The Boys played pretty well in their last game so I'm hopin they can't do it 2 weeks in a row. It would be a big W for us.
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As I have mentioned before we are getting the big screw job on this schedule. 4 out of our last 7 games are at night. That is BS and noone else has such a bad schedule as us. Stefanski said the team doesn't like it neither. Sit and wait all day and he said the clock is in slow motion as they wait to play the game.
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Ijust realized from watching the Vikes Gameplan on TV. All of the away games that we play the rest of the year are the night games. Talk about a rigged deal against us.
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Nite games suck. I don't know about the pros and the stadiums, but when I played city league and we had nite games, I hated it. Try to see that ball in the air against the glare of lights...sure glad I wasn't a receiver.
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City League??? You mean badminton? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Don't you and Del have some cheesecake to souse up? :moon:
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Most complete game they've played in a some time. :happybounce: :party1: Rudolph had a big game, the 1st TD catch was awesome. :cool: Cook was big running the ball & on the screens as well. D had a great game too stoppin Zeke. They didn't seem to miss Wayans that much either as Hughes had a good game after he settled down. :Clap:
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Quite a few guys who don't normally see that many minutes had good games too. Dozier played well after Kline went out, Mattison was great when Cook needed a break, & Smith was good at TE as well. The young guy, Jaleel Johnson who's from U of I by the way, who played most of Joseph's minutes had a really good game too. :cool: :party3:
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Ya that was a fun game. I too thought the O line did good. Cousins moving instead of standing still helps them a lot I think. Great to see this win without some key players in.
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Another 1 who had a big game & doesn't get much recognition is our FB, C J Ham. :applause: He might still be tryin to get that silver & blue paint off his helmet. ;) :happy1:
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Seen somewhere that Joseph had knee surgery a week ago yday. Hope he's not out too long, he's a rock in the middle of the D line. Haven't hear much on Thielen either. :scratch:
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CHICAGO BEARS :bow:
BEARS :blues brothers:
Sun, Dec 29
1:00 PM ET
AT......
MINNESOTA VIKINGS :thumbs:
"Da Day Dat shall live in infamy.!"
As da walking wounded Bears defeat dem over confident Vikings
You Guys Kin "Kiss Yer :moon: Good Buy" :rotflmao:
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Someone said the next few games are all nite games.... :scratch: I see tomorrow's is at noon....
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After this game and the by week, of the remaining 5 games, 3 of those will be night games and 3 of those will be home games. good luck.
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Ohh...thanks, RH.
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I see where Harris didn't practice late this week & is out too. Kearse is expected to fill that spot. So that makes 4 starters out(Thielen, Joseph, & Kline) as well for today. The backup center went down during practice too this week & is out for the season. He was expected to see some minutes at Klines spot today. Hope they keep it together today & that the bye week can't get here quick enough.
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Well, Denver's banged and bungled up, too. Flacco's out, and their backup Q, too. They've had a lousy season so far. BUT, Denver, with the ol' BEARS De coordinator, Fangio, which always gave the Vike's probs, Cousin's either best get some great blocking or learn to roll and run.... :rolleyes: Could be an interesting game. I'm looking for lotsa penalties...
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:happy1: Been pretty good when he's rolling out lately. Easier for the O line too IMO. :cool:
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:happy1: Been pretty good when he's rolling out lately. Easier for the O line too IMO. :cool:
There's the key phrase...."lately". Could be an interesting game! :smiley:
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Wow. Just wow. That had to be the most putrid first half performance by a Vikings football team I've watched since the days of Les Steckel. They just phoned it in. Toss in yet another haphazard flag happy officiating crew and this game is practically unwatchable unless of course you're a Bronco's fan. Shoveling screenings at my buddy's place this morning was a blast compared to that. :sad:
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$#@! dang it!!! I had in my head it was a NITE game, just tuned in... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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It's like Twins baseball Rebs. You can watch it live again tomorrow... :rotflmao:
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It's like Twins baseball Rebs. You can watch it live again tomorrow... :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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It's like Twins baseball Rebs. You can watch it live again tomorrow... :rotflmao:
Ya, I......wait, why would I want to? :scratch: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:bump: :whistling:
Well, Denver's banged and bungled up, too. Flacco's out, and their backup Q, too. They've had a lousy season so far. BUT, Denver, with the ol' BEARS De coordinator, Fangio, which always gave the Vike's probs, Cousin's either best get some great blocking or learn to roll and run.... :rolleyes: Could be an interesting game. I'm looking for lotsa penalties...
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Well, you can skip the 1st half at least Rebs... :rotflmao:
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Was getting ready for a rant against the Vikings but wow what a second half. Got to give it to our defense in the last minute of the game. Lost a few more hairs on that drive. 8-3 and into a bye week. I'll have to check facebook for Zimmers locker room speech. Should be a good one. After this rest on the bye week I hope Thielen will be back and everyone in good health. good luck.
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Kearse was key at the end when Smith went out with his hamstring injury. They were throwin at Kearse the minute he got in the game on that last series. Wayans had a big play in the end zone too. They had some big guys catchin the ball who gave our DB's fits the whole game.
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Super bowl or bust!! :nerd: :nerd: :dancinred: :rocker; :rotflmao:
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:scratch: I think the Broncos got just what they asked for after they came out with 8-9 guys at the line tryin to take Dalvin Cook out of the game. It worked for the 1st 1/2 but Cousins made 'em pay by goin 29/35. :cool: Diggs, Rudolph, Johnson, & Cook caught 21 of those 29 completions. Vikes were really lucky that those 3 turnovers only cost 'em 3 pts too. :happybounce:
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just read on the interweb that longtime kicker Fred Cox passed away.!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty: :pouty:
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Ya I seen that Glenn. That is sad. Haven't seen or hear of him for years. Would like to know what he did after the Vikings ect. Class act. good luck.
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i know he and another guy invented the nerf football!!!!!!
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They said he has been in hospice care for awhile. They also said liver or kidney damage was the main issue. Can't remember which one.
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MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - Former Minnesota Vikings kicker Fred Cox, one of the last of the straight-on placekickers and a standout on several conference championship teams, has died. He was 80.
Cox’s wife, Bonnie, announced the death through the Vikings without providing details.
Cox, who also co-created the Nerf football, scored a Minnesota-record 1,365 points in his 15 seasons, often kicking in nasty conditions because the Vikings played outdoors during his career from 1963-77. When he retired, he was second in NFL history in scoring behind George Blanda - who also played quarterback - and had made 282 field goals.
Cox was one of 11 Vikings to play in all four of the team’s Super Bowls, all defeats. He kicked in 18 postseason games.
The Vikings called Cox “one of our proudest legends, a respected teammate and friend. Fred's football career as the Vikings’ all-time leading scorer set the stage for a life where he went on to achieve great things in business and in his community. Fred's positive energy, strength in his faith and passion for life will be missed.
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https://people.com/sports/former-vikings-kicker-fred-cox-dies/
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HEY LEE. Can you say FIRST PLACE VIKINGS!! :rotflmao: :happy1: :sleazy: :sleazy:
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:happy1: Yeah, especially since the Vikes didn't play it sure was a fun Sunday to watch football. Ol Erin :cry: is probably still pickin sod out of his teeth after goin 20/33 for only 104 yds. :smiley: Glad we don't have to play SF but I see they play the Ravens next week & that should be a good 1. Really enjoyed watchin the Cowboys suffer too, they couldn't do anything in that NASTY weather. :cool:
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The ex-Hawkeye TE of the 49ers just about beat them Cheeseheads all by himself. :applause: :cool: :happy1:
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Ya some good games yesterday. The GB game is the one I was most interested in. Too bad it was so late. I made it to the end of the 3rd quarter. Fun to see Erin get handled... :rotflmao: You can tell he is pissed off but couldn't do anything about it. LOLOL
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Ravens/Rams tonight, might be a good 1 too.
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Did some yard work yesterday but got to watch some of the Cowboy game. Don't like the Cowboys but was rooting for them to stick it to the Pat's. Didn't make it all the way through the cheesehead game. We are now tied with them but they did beat us once this season so it's a must that we beat them next time or gain on them. good luck.
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Thing is the Packers have a cream puff schedule the rest of the way. :pouty:
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yir a cream puff, cream puff head
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yir a cream puff, cream puff head
Yea well cookie said your a DORK!! :rotflmao:
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cookie knows better cream puff, i sent him dominos!
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cookie knows better cream puff, i sent him dominos!
it wax good too!! :nerd: :nerd: :mooning:
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cookie knows better cream puff, i sent him dominos!
it wax good too!! :nerd: :nerd: :mooning:
wax??????????????
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you wouldnt know, i told the delivery guy, if theres a big muffin headed, lawn nome in the room call security
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you wouldnt know, i told the delivery guy, if theres a big muffin headed, lawn nome in the room call security
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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cookie knows better cream puff, i sent him dominos!
it wax good too!! :nerd: :nerd: :mooning:
wax??????????????
Yea ok Reb. :confused: :tut: :doofus: :thumbs: :pouty: :rotflmao:
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Thing is the Packers have a cream puff schedule the rest of the way. :pouty:
:doah: Here we go again :violin: :violin: :violin: :cry: :cry: :cry: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: Bears might've beat'em yday. :rolleyes:
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holy crapper are the ravens putting a beatdown on the rams!!!!!!!! :scratch: :doah: :shocked:
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It's starting to look like it doesn't really matter what 30 of the 32 teams do from now on as it's shaping up to a 49ers/Ravens SB. They play on Sunday so that'll be good to see how that comes out. Seattle might have a say in it all as they've already beat SF once & play 'em again on the last MNF game of the year. Hope not as I don't care for Pete Carroll at all. Both Seattle & SF have a pretty tough schedule left though, it should be interesting.
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I read that Theilen has been out since Game 7 against Detroit! That flew by fast. I hope they let him heal and not rush it with him. We will need him but not till he is 100%. The D needs to step up to help the Offense.
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It's starting to look like it doesn't really matter what 30 of the 32 teams do from now on as it's shaping up to a 49ers/Ravens SB. They play on Sunday so that'll be good to see how that comes out. Seattle might have a say in it all as they've already beat SF once & play 'em again on the last MNF game of the year. Hope not as I don't care for Pete Carroll at all. Both Seattle & SF have a pretty tough schedule left though, it should be interesting.
Interesting...I really like Pete Carroll and the Pukehawks...... ;)
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Big game with them on Monday. Hard to stop Wilson. :crazy:
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Despite giving up more than 200 yds on the ground :banghead:, we need Linval Joseph back as he's a stud in the middle of the D line, & having all those turnovers we still had the ball with plenty of time on the clock(~ 3 minutes) to win the game. :crazy: When Cook & our LT went out the offense changed IMO. :pouty: Cousins wasn't as sharp in the 2nd half either, mostly because of their pressure. :cry: They don't lose at home very often 'specially since Wilson joined 'em. We need to get Thielin, Joseph, & now Cook back & figure out why our Special Teams leads the league in fumbles. :censored: :bonk: :sad:
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Watched the first half and fell asleep LOL. Very few games that are on late I make it through. I looked at a few Viking threads on facebook and it seems that Rhodes got some real heat from the fans. Almost all replies were about getting rid of him or benching him. Guess he made some stupid penalty or more. I've seen him do that as well. Why even play him since I"ve read that he will not be with the Vikings next season. good luck.
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He had a bad game but his hit forced the last fumble of theirs & givin us the ball so we had a chance win. I read they went 4 for 4 when they threw his way & he's had a bad year. Plus he's gettin big money, 5 year/$70 mil, which he just signed last year so he's not a UFA 'til 2023.
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Thanks Gunner. That's the internet for you. 3 people on the Viking face book site said it was his last year. Maybe they just wished it was his last year. good luck.
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yeah hes had a bad year, more pas interference calls than ive ever seen from him. he had a personal foul forn15 yards on 3rd and long that they scored on. hes a great player but needs to tighten things up
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He actually had that penalty that gave them a first down when we had stopped them. They then went and scored a TD. Later on with Smith right in front of him he let a guy run right past him and score a TD. He kept looking at Smith as if it was his responsibility but it was all on Rhodes. He does that about once a game now. I went to bed during the 3rd quarter. Pathetic.
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Not so sure :scratch: that him & Smith were on the same page on that play. I'm sure Rhodes thought he had help deep on that play so he let his guy go. Really loud there & that might've been a factor.
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Yep, what gunner said. Smith was supposed to be there over the top. Just some bad communication on that one.
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Yep, what gunner said. Smith was supposed to be there over the top. Just some bad communication on that one.
:happy1: After the play was over the cameras showed him & Smith talking on the bench, I even seen Smith nodding his head agreeing with Rhodes. I will admit that the penalty Rhodes had was :imstupid: & couldn't of come at a worst time. :tut: :pouty: But you don't win many NFL games when you have 4 TO's, 3 fumbles(Cook, Mattison, & the 1 on the kickoff)/1 int, even if your at home let alone a place like Seattle.
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That was my take too when I was watching the game, Gunner. But yesterday I listened to Ben Leber's analysis on KFAN and he tended to put the blame for that play on Rhodes.
Smith might have been nodding his head to Rhodes as if to say, "Yeah, yeah... etc. etc."
First of all, Rhodes had to have seen Smith at the line. You can't offer "over the top safety help" if you are up on the line of scrimmage. Second, Smith picked up the a receiver in coverage right off the line - either the tight end or slot (I can't remember), so I can't assert that Smith was out of position on the play.
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That could easily be Steve -o as # 22 doesn't make mistakes very often & that's why he's 1 of our leaders on defense. But I'm still willing to bet that the % of games won when you have 4 TO's is near 0, 5% at best, even if it's a home game. They lost & it was a tough game to lose so everyone wants to point a finger at somebody. :tut: :thumbs: :pouty:
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That could easily be Steve -o as # 22 doesn't make mistakes very often & that's why he's 1 of our leaders on defense. But I'm still willing to bet that the % of games won when you have 4 TO's is near 0, 5% at best, even if it's a home game. They lost & it was a tough game to lose so everyone wants to point a finger at somebody. :tut: :thumbs: :pouty:
yea well i blame seattle for NOT scoring 42 points!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused: :angry2: :bonk: :bonk: :tut: :tut: :pouty: :pouty: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Bet :scratch: you wouldn't have liked it if it was 41 though. :sleazy: ;) :laugh:
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Nice win yday :happy1:, was a little disappointed when they scored. The defense looked better with Joseph back in there to plug the middle against the run. Hunter's big game & the change in the secondary helped the pass defense too. Good to see Cook & Reiff in there on the other side of the ball as well. Cousins had another good game(24/30) & thought :scratch: I heard 'em say at 1/2 time that his 11 completions had went to 9 different guys. :happy1: Sounds like Thielin will be back next week :cool:, hope so.
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It still feels like we are an above average, below elite-level team. Like Bill Parcells sez... You are what your record says you are. And in the case of the Vikes, I think he is right again.
Its the Vikings M.O. to kick away a couple of games they had a chance to win and either miss the playoffs or give themselves a tougher road. But I guess you could say this of all such teams with similar records. Still, its rare when the Vikes steal a game they were expected to lose. Hopefully they can get a little healthier and hotter toward the end of the season and perhaps their opponents will be trending in the opposite direction.
Apologies to Kurt Cousins - the "Joe Mauer" of the MN Vikings. Who wouldn't like a fiery leader like Drew Brees, Russel Wilson or Patrick Mahomes? But our "steady Eddie" is getting the job done for the most part. Man, I wish we would have had a healthy Thelen all season.
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:scratch: Fur some odd reason I tink yuz Vikes fans gunna be pullin fur "Da Bears" :blues brothers: in da Packers game. :happy1: OK :happy1: by me cuz we need all da help we kin get playin at Lambo :rolleyes:
Vikes/Bears Fans durin da Packer game.
:cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader:
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A Day Dat Shall Live In Infamy ........
Chicago Bears
@ Minnesota Vikings
Sun, Dec 29 1:00 PM
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A Day Dat Shall Live In Infamy ........
Chicago Bears
@ Minnesota Vikings
Sun, Dec 29 1:00 PM
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A Day Dat Shall Live In Infamy ........
Chicago Bears
@ Minnesota Vikings
Sun, Dec 29 1:00 PM
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A Day Dat Shall Live In Infamy ........
Chicago Bears
@ Minnesota Vikings
Sun, Dec 29 1:00 PM
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Dats funny... I did appreciate Howie's comments on how he thought the Vikes would run the table the rest of the season but seriously you guys, you really think they'll go deep in the playoffs.. me not so much.
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Dats funny... I did appreciate Howie's comments on how he thought the Vikes would run the table the rest of the season but seriously you guys, you really think they'll go deep in the playoffs.. me not so much.
Ya I know. I am an optimist but really I see us losing one of them just cuz. BUT maybe not!!!!
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i really think they been keepin thieland a secrete till the playoffs.
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He's in Russia. WFL.
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Are the Russians going to steal the Superbowl too? :crazy:
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Minnesota Vikings (9-4) @ Los Angeles Chargers (5-8)
Gamet on Sunday, Dec. 15, 4:05 p.m. EST
:reporter; ....
The Vikings maintained their perfect record at home in Week 14 by beating David Blough and the Lions 20-7. By rebounding from their narrow loss to the Seahawks to earn a victory against a division rival, the Vikings maintained their grip on the final wild card spot in the NFC and stayed within a game of the Packers for the NFC North lead, with a game against Green Bay coming in Week 16.
They can’t look ahead to that all-important, and potentially division-deciding game too quickly though. The Packers themselves learned the hard way how traveling out to California and taking the Chargers lightly could come back to bite you.
Los Angeles, who is eliminated, broke its three-game losing streak last week by thrashing the Jaguars 45-10 in Jacksonville in a game where Philip Rivers threw three touchdowns without an interception and Austin Ekeler rushed for 101 yards on just eight carries while racking up an additional 112 receiving yards.
This game means everything for the Vikings, as a loss would hurt their wild card chances and all but end their shot at an NFC North title. For the Chargers, it’s about making their record look better at season’s end and possibly strengthening the case to keep coach Anthony Lynn on board next season.
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Yep, all the games left will be tough. Bright side is that we get Thielen back I believe. We are pretty much healthy also which is a big plus. Our defense must give Rivers a lot of pressure. good luck.
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I really hate to say this :bonk: but I might have to root for the Cowboys today :pouty: as they're playin the Rams & they're right behind us in the WC race. Even though I think JJ is a :puke:. Shouldn't really be a problem if the Vikes take care of business today though as LA has the 49'ers in SF next week.
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I just looked and the Bears - Packers game is on Fox at noon. Man I am looking forward to that game too. Go Bears!!
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Our Guide is all messed up & it doesn't even say anybody is coverin the Vikes. :doofus: Google says different, 3:00/CBS. :cool:
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Says WCCO up this way to.
Well them bears sure aren't helping the cause. :pouty: :pouty: :pouty:
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Man with all the breaks the Vikings have had they should of put this game away already. :confused: :bonk: :confused:
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But now Cook wracked the shoulder again............ :doah:
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Yes. :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: just what we needed.
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But now Cook wracked the shoulder again............ :doah:
Smiling & laughing on the sideline soon after he came out of the medical tent though so I'm hopin it's not that bad. :scratch: Hope not we need him even though Boone has looked good since he came in.
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DirecTV doesn't even list the game!!! Says some movie is on! And who is that %$#@ announcer that keeps yapping about the "whistle blew"....whistle blows after, confuses players"...."Oh, that doesn't look good"....analyzes every second....SHADDUP!!!! :banghead:
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Greg Gumbel is the main guy & he's with Trent Green?
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It's Green..... training-087 Thanks, Gunner!
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It's Green..... training-087 Thanks, Gunner!
:shocked: What? :scratch: He's a ex KC guy. :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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Ya, I know......it's all those concussions. How about those Chiefs! :rotflmao:
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The announcers are ready to jump on the other teams bandwagon every week.. I like being the underdog even if we really aren't.
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Last I seen the pros had the Vikes favored by only 1.5 pts. I'm with you though as I really hate it when all the "experts" pick the same team 'cause their such a big favorite. :tut: A lot of those seem to end up where the underdog wins. :crazy:
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This isn't exactly a Vikes thing but we are playing Erin and the Pack so this fits. I am listening to SKOR and they are laughing cuz Erin would have to throw about 260 more interceptions in his career to catch up with Favre. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1: Unreal huh?
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I like Farve way better than Rodgers though.
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Cook is unlikely to play & Mattison didn't practice yday either. :thumbs: :pouty:
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I like Farve way better than Rodgers though.
Me too JB. Favre may be the player that I would most like to go shoot critters with.
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I would like to hunt critters with the cheerleaders. Wait....do the Vikes have any? They never show them.... :cheerleader:
I know the Packers have cheerleaders......
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Oh man when Lee sees that he may fall in love...
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farve my fave!!! and lees packers loves thier cheerleaders!!
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Wanted to watch the Rams/Chiefs game today but it's on NFL Network which I don't get on Hulu. Rams loose, Vikings are in the playoffs. good luck.
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so now that the 49ers took it to the Rams, the Vikings are in the playoffs regardless how the next 2 games turn out.
I still hope the vikes put on a beating of the Packers tomorrow nite.
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What network covers Monday Night Football?
Games are typically broadcast on CBS and Fox on Sunday afternoons, NBC on Sunday nights, ESPN on Monday nights and the NFL Network on Thursday nights (note that CBS is the parent company of CNET). Most of the Thursday night games are simulcast on Fox, Amazon Prime and Twitch.
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probably the monday football network..
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probably the monday football network..
OK, Glenn! :rotflmao:
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probably the monday football network..
OK, Glenn! :rotflmao:
he only wishes he could be like me!!!!!!!!!!!! :mooning: :sleazy: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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If that ever happens, get me to the psych ward FAST! 🏃♂️
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If that ever happens, get me to the psych ward FAST! 🏃♂️
X 2 :bonk: :tut: :tut: :mooning: :mooning: :pouty:
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:tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :sleazy: :sleazy: :sleazy: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:
what you dont want a charming personality and good looks to boot!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Our guide says the game tonight is on ESPN.
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and WCCO too..
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and WCCO too..
yepper............................
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Ya, if ya get WCCO. Only on Charter cable, ch 4.
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Cripes not booger McFarland again :surrender: :puke: :puke:
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Well, they gave the Peckers their token holding call in the 1st qtr. Doesn't bode well.
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Yea if they could only pile on some points with them turnovers. :confused: 10 ain't enough with Rogers.
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That Vikings offense better get off there ass if they expect to win.
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Cousins is a puke. Man!! How pathetic :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Boy did that game suck. And it is not cuz Cook wasn't playing neither. In three years he has been on the bench more games than he has played I think. We were getting our butts wooped early in the season by doing Zimmers run up the middle crap and keeping Cousins in the pocket. Then Kubiak and Stephanski got things moving out of the pocket to give Cousins some time and it worked great. SO last night they reverted to the way we get our butts wooped again. Keep him in the pocket so it is easier to sack him and run up the middle. DUH!!! I'm thinking Zimmer tried to help again. I still think we should dump him and get McCarthy here. AND I am done with Cousins too. He isn't the one when he can't complete 10 yard passes to open receivers.
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Got to agree, it was hard to watch but I knew we were in trouble before 1/2 time. When we got the 3rd TO, went 3 & out for only a 10-3 game. :pouty: I already knew we were in trouble. :sad: The O line sucked too as # 55, Smith, spent most of the night within arms reach of Cousins. Put couple guys on him to slow him down a little :scratch:, maybe. :bonk: The D wasn't much better as only Adams & Jones were the only ones doin any real damage but Zimmer's defense couldn't even stop those 2. :thumbs: Adams had 13 catches for 113 yds & Jones had 154 of their 185 yds on the ground. :banghead:
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Yes it was a sad game and at home as well. fourth and one late in the game while we are behind and Zimmer calls for a punt :angry2:Almost every game he makes a huge mistake with stupid calls. Rhodes had his arse handed to him the whole game also. I agree with whoever had Cousins stand in the pocket and had the runners run up the middle should be gone today. Zimmer didn't look happy in the news conference after the game and he should have been. He and his coaches were to be blamed for the loss. Where the hell was Thielen???? Cousins has this attitude during his press conference. Like he wasn't bothered at all. This is the NFL and it's one game at a time BS. good luck.
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reiny, how could he say it any other way......i mean he looked like a high school freshman at QB last nite. :confused: :confused:
and to think we have to put up with him another year. i sure hope they start looking for another QB. personally i like this Jalen Hurts from Oklahoma!!!!!!
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inagree. get a fresh young stud thats not afraid.
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'specially if they keep dinking around & putting an offensive line on the field like the one that couldn't block my grandma last nite. She's been dead since 1980. :rolleyes:
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I have been an eternal optimist when it came to the Vikes. That is what my Dad used to say to me. The last three or four years I have turned more pessimist about them.
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Da Vikings find out dat.....
Der is no Santa Claus! :confused:
BUT...
Arron Rodgers Is Fur Real! :mad1:
Feel Da Pain If Ya Dare..... training-087
Highlights Lowlights..... :pouty:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/watch/highlights-packers-best-vikings-clinch-nfc-north-title/vi-BBYi8wU
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We have the talent. We need leaders on that team. I think it was Carl Eller that went in at half time and busted up the blackboard. That's what we need. Worst game plan in quite a while on offense this game. Great teams have leaders and play their best as if it was the super bowl each time. This team does not. good luck.
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We have the talent. We need leaders on that team. I think it was Carl Eller that went in at half time and busted up the blackboard. That's what we need. Worst game plan in quite a while on offense this game. Great teams have leaders and play their best as if it was the super bowl each time. This team does not. good luck.
Hey! Relax use guys :rolleyes: . Next week yer playin "DA Bears" :blues brothers: Must I say more? :scratch: :pouty:
:oops1: :sorry: I almost forgot dat "Da Bears" Kicked yer ass already dis year! :rotflmao:
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Quirk got scared when we played them too didn't he? He needs to change to tennis I think....
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I agree with RH, I blame the coaches too. :mad1: Terrible game plan on both sides of the ball & way too slow to make any changes. Our D finally just wore out as they were on the field for almost 2/3 of the game. :doofus: :thumbs: :pouty:
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Should Cousins be upset there’s not a QB in the NFL that could do much better with an offensive line like the Vikes have?
How many times did the Pack rush 3 and get to the QB?
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Yup Gunner, the defense played their hearts out. They waited for the cavalry to come via the offense and it never did. That interception Cousins threw when they looked like they had an answer. WTF was he thinking? :angry:
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:reporter; Minnesota Vikings
(10-5. Last week: )
:popcorn: ...
Coming into Monday night's game, a lot was made about Minnesota quarterback Kirk Cousins' 0-8 record on Monday nights and 7-14 in primetime overall. Those seemed like random, meaningless stats. But, where there is smoke, there is fire. After throwing for only 122 yards, Cousins now is 0-9 in Monday night games and 7-15 in prime time. But Cousins doesn't deserve all the blame like he was getting early in the season. Cousins had played well since Week 5, but not on Monday when he was without injured running back Dalvin Cook. The Vikings are in the playoffs, but will have to go on the road. If Cook isn't available in the postseason, Cousins will have to take his game to another level, :tut: because what he showed Monday night wasn't nearly good enough. :pouty:
Caution.... Watch out fur "DA BEARS" :blues brothers:
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Da Bears? Just a speed bump on their way to the playoffs... :rotflmao:
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Da Bears? Just a speed bump on their way to the playoffs... :rotflmao:
hehehe!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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The Bears game doesn't mean a thing to the Vikes now as they're going to finish as the #6 seed no matter what. As beat up as they are I expect them to sit a lot of the starters, at least a good share of the game anyway.
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The Bears game doesn't mean a thing to the Vikes now as they're going to finish as the #6 seed no matter what. As beat up as they are I expect them to sit a lot of the starters, at least a good share of the game anyway.
the Vikings offense best play all there starters...………..they need the practice...………………………... :doofus: :doofus: :doofus: :doofus: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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it only makes sense to rest players but this our beloved vikes they will play all there starterts all game
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The Bears game doesn't mean a thing to the Vikes now as they're going to finish as the #6 seed no matter what. As beat up as they are I expect them to sit a lot of the starters, at least a good share of the game anyway.
the Vikings offense best play all there starters...………..they need the practice...………………………... :doofus: :doofus: :doofus: :doofus: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
But that's a lot like you :evil: practicing behaving & being nice more often. ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: USELESS because it's too late & won't do any good. :nerd: :nerd:
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The Bears game doesn't mean a thing to the Vikes now as they're going to finish as the #6 seed no matter what. As beat up as they are I expect them to sit a lot of the starters, at least a good share of the game anyway.
the Vikings offense best play all there starters...………..they need the practice...………………………... :doofus: :doofus: :doofus: :doofus: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
But that's a lot like you :evil: practicing behaving & being nice more often. ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: USELESS because it's too late & won't do any good. :nerd: :nerd:
:tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :sleazy: :sleazy: :evil: :rotflmao:
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The Bears game doesn't mean a thing to the Vikes now as they're going to finish as the #6 seed no matter what. As beat up as they are I expect them to sit a lot of the starters, at least a good share of the game anyway.
:rotflmao: Listen up Gunner :doah: Lots-a folks make up excuses fur der loss after da game. However, yer makin up excuses fur yer loss before da game even starts is an all time low! :crazy:
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Da Bears? Just a speed bump on their way to the playoffs... :rotflmao:
I'll tell ya what! I hope yer boys have dat same pholosiphy. Dis way when day don't see da huge pothole :doah: behind dat speed bump.......Ya get my drift!....... :tut:
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Da Bears? Just a speed bump on their way to the playoffs... :rotflmao:
I'll tell ya what! I hope yer boys have dat same pholosiphy. Dis way when day don't see da huge pothole :doah: behind dat speed bump.......Ya get my drift!....... :tut:
:confused: :confused: :doah: Lee.............Lee............Lee........... we all know that no matter what your bears will be golfing next monday anyway.....so....... :moon: :moon: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
and well..............the vikings could be joining them the following sunday or monday too!!!!!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty:
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The Bears game doesn't mean a thing to the Vikes now as they're going to finish as the #6 seed no matter what. As beat up as they are I expect them to sit a lot of the starters, at least a good share of the game anyway.
:rotflmao: Listen up Gunner :doah: Lots-a folks make up excuses fur der loss after da game. However, yer makin up excuses fur yer loss before da game even starts is an all time low! :crazy:
:shocked: :scratch: I didn't say anything 'bout us losin :bonk: :doah: :tut: Don't think Zimmer would like that, losin 2 in a row. Probably just rest 1/2 the starters at a time so we can still get the W. ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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Yup, lessee, game is at home, Da Bears ain't the Peckers & Trubisky ain't Erin Rogers. My guess is the 2nd string defensive line will use him as a tackling dummy provided the Vikings offense brings their trip wire so the defense can get off the field. :evil:
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During the bowl game last night they only had Cook & Kendricks listed as out along with Mattison & Alexander as probable for the Bears game. Read another pc yday that said they're going to rest most of their starters including Cousins tomorrow, guess we'll have to wait & see. :scratch:
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I would like to see Mannion play. So the subs will kick azz and we will want them to play all of the time. LOL Would like to see the O line subs play too.
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so what we are going to end up watching is a preseason game!!!!! :doofus: :thumbs: :confused: :doah: :scratch: oh great...……………….
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Sort of except these are guys that are really on the team, not guys that we will never see again. So a high quality preseason game. Hopefully. I wish there was NFL on today.
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I would like to see Mannion play. So the subs will kick azz and we will want them to play all of the time. LOL Would like to see the O line subs play too.
Just about everybody in the league needs more depth in the O line 'specially this time of year. So I'd like to see our backups get some experience too.
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So like I said earlier. If the Vikes win I win the family pool of picking total wins this year. We also have a total points for the year pool. I picked 396. SO if the Vikes score between 7 and 23.6 pts I win that pool too. Does not matter if they win in this pool.
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So like I said earlier. If the Vikes win I win the family pool of picking total wins this year. We also have a total points for the year pool. I picked 396. SO if the Vikes score between 7 and 23.6 pts I win that pool too. Does not matter if they win in this pool.
that sounds like a fun pool. different senerios!!!!!!!!!!! good luck !!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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:scratch: Looks like Vegas might know somethin we don't. :confused: Point spread went from Vikes -2 or 3 early in the week to the Bears -3.5 this morning according to ESPN.
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Ya it actually started with Vikes by 7 then to 1 and like you said now down by 3.5. What a switch.
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Adam Schefter was just on ESPN & he had at least 6-7 who won't play at all including both Reiff & O'Neil. Mannion is in Cousins too.
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SO, a quick question here for MR.T
Q... Mr. T... What is yer prediction for da Vikes quarterback in today's game. :rotflmao:
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:scratch: Looks like Vegas might know somethin we don't. :confused: Point spread went from Vikes -2 or 3 early in the week to the Bears -3.5 this morning according to ESPN.
yea they know cousins suxs!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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He's NOT playin so according to you that should favor MN & send the pts the other way. :bonk: :doofus: :tut:
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:laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: I just read on MSN's homepage that the cowboys might try and make a trade for Zimmer...…………….. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
only if they take cousins and we get Prescott!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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They probably want to throw Herschel in there too for Hunter. :tut: :tut: :mooning: :mooning: :pouty: :pouty: :nerd: :nerd:
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Ya it's out there. I just looked Glenn and there is a lot of chatter about it. Remember Gruden was traded from Oakland to Tampa Bay a few years back. Of course money and draft picks can be involved too. And longer contracts too.
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boy dem Vikings are off to a blazing start!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: :doofus:
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You just wait til next weekend!! Stay tuned..
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You just wait til next weekend!! Stay tuned..
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: I can hardly wait!! :confused: :rotflmao: cousins will choke like he usually does.
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Looks like cap'n Kirk is wearing the # 4 Jersey today.. :happy1:
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I wish he was back wearing a Redskins jersey. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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They lead now.... :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
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NFL.... Not for long!!; :rotflmao:
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For second and third stringers they did good against their starters. Especially the defense. Packers and Lions are still tied 20-20. Packers loose and we play them next week. good luck.
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For second and third stringers they did good against their starters. Especially the defense. Packers and Lions are still tied 20-20. Packers loose and we play them next week. good luck.
you beat me to it Reiny. I'll have to admit they didn't do to bad :happy1:
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Cheeseheads win on last minute field goal. Looks like we play the Saints right now? good luck.
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I think Bailey sure has improved. Only 2 missed FG's all season.
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Did you hear the part where they said he could double his salary today after he made the 2nd FG? That put him at 92% for the season & he earned a $1 mil bonus for 90% or better. Best season for our kicker in quite some time. :happy1: :cool: :Clap:
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No; missed that! Thanks! :dancinred:
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Or even Hunter, needed a 1/2 a sack to get another 500 g's, but your needed to sit this one out.
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Or even Hunter, needed a 1/2 a sack to get another 500 g's, but your needed to sit this one out.
the team should pay that out based on the fact he didn't play. that guy is a stud.
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Dis Is Da Day After Yesterday! :smoking:
:Photography:
Enlarge all photos fur full effect if ya can stand it! :rotflmao:
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Very funny Lee... :angry2:
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maybe it's already posted but here it is any way... I see the Vike's play at noon on Sunday
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Or even Hunter, needed a 1/2 a sack to get another 500 g's, but your needed to sit this one out.
the team should pay that out based on the fact he didn't play. that guy is a stud.
That's not much more than pocket change for the month for these guys. Besides they could've talked to him about that to see how he felt. He might've told 'em forget it, I'd rather set out or they may have settled on a figure for that bonus. :scratch:
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Very funny Lee... :angry2:
and yet da bears will be golfing next weekend and dem vikings playing a little football......do dah do dah all day long!!!!!!!! :laugh: :rocker; :rocker; :rocker; :dancinred: :dancinred: :blues brothers: :blues brothers: :blues brothers:
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Very funny Lee... :angry2:
and yet da bears will be golfing next weekend and dem vikings playing a little football......do dah do dah all day long!!!!!!!! :laugh: :rocker; :rocker; :rocker; :dancinred: :dancinred: :blues brothers: :blues brothers: :blues brothers:
I tink I'd radder be playin golf den playin da Saints next weekend. :doah: Dis could be a real BLOOD BATH! Fur you know who :tut:
Good luck ta da Vikes I hope! :pouty:
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If I'm a bettin man Lee, you and Borgie will have your purple on next weekend.. :happy1: Shhhhh, I wont tell anyone..
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If I'm a bettin man Lee, you and Borgie will have your purple on next weekend.. :happy1: Shhhhh, I wont tell anyone..
I'd bet yer right..... :whistling:
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Yep! yer boat right but, don't tell anyone. :tut:
If I'm a bettin man Lee, you and Borgie will have your purple on next weekend.. :happy1: Shhhhh, I wont tell anyone..
I'd bet yer right..... :whistling:
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ole Lee is pretty proud that his bears starting lineup BARELY beat the vikings backups!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: its ok lee!!!!!!!!!
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ole Lee is pretty proud that his bears starting lineup BARELY beat the vikings backups!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: its ok lee!!!!!!!!!
It's not like dat at all Glenn. You see, I told my wife :queen: dat if da Vikes were ta beat "DA Bears" dat I would commit suicide. When she came home from da bingo last night I told her dat "DA Bears" won. She said "I heard" and was den in a bad mood.
I'm still tryin ta figure out :scratch: if she was in a bad mood cuz "DA Bears" won or cuz she didn't win nuttin at da bingo. :confused:
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I heard Stefanski's name mentioned yday early on Golic & Wingo as somebody who might be gettin interviewed for at least 2 of the recent HC openings. Thought :scratch: they said that the Browns went after him pretty hard last season.
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I like listening to them too. Ya I heard the Browns are looking at him again and asked permission to meet him. I don't think this should be allowed until after the team is out of the playoffs. This is a huge distraction. Noone ever talks about how a couple of years ago and the Giants pretty much gave Shurmer the job before the playoff game with Philly. Remember what happened in that game???? Complete distraction. You can't interview head coaches because of that so why Asst. Coachs and Coordinators? I read the Browns have to come here instead of Stefanski going there.
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been seeing alot of conversations where there saying it might be Brady's last season in New England............... wonder if we could trade cousins for Brady!!!!!!!!! :doah: :doah: :doah: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1:
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Heard them say today that San Fran has always been Bradys favorite team as a youngster. SO as talk goes, if Grappalo chokes in the playoffs maybe they would trade him back to the Patriots for Brady in a 3 year deal.
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No way he plays anywhere else. :crazy: :tut:
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No way he plays anywhere else. :crazy: :tut:
I have to agree with you Gunner
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i though tthe same with with montana and farve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The difference with those teams is that they both had up-and-coming QBs waiting in the wings even though Montana and Favre each had a little tread left on the tires.
I don't think anyone believes the heir apparent to Brady is on the Patriots roster now.
it will be very interesting to see what Belecheck, Grady, and Kraft do this off season.
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i though tthe same with with montana and farve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd bet :scratch: the Vegas odds are better on them winnin it all again this year :crazy: than Brady puttin on a different uniform next year. :tut:
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:tut: :tut: :pouty: :pouty: awe come on youz guyz……… quit bursting my dream...…… it sure be awesome to have a Tom Brady led Vikings team then the choker we got now!!!!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty:
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That would be pretty cool Glenn. I wanted the Vikes to draft Garappolo when he was in the draft. And now Alexander and Hughes are both out for the game. SO Xavier has to play the whole game. He has to cover Thomas who is really good. Maybe Xavier will wake up and do good.... :confused:
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Saints are # 4 in the league against the run but # 20 against the pass so I expect to see a lot of play action in our game as that's what we do best. So Cook needs to have a good game for that to work. Vikes are the biggest dog of the weekend, + 7.5 last I seen. :cheerleader:
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Sure a lot of talk of Zim going to Cowboys if Vikes blow this game. ???
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Saw somthimg on ESPN this morning where the VP came out & said that there'd been no talk of Speilman &/or Zimmer not being there next season. :crazy: I think a lot of the time it's just some reporter playin like glenn. :doah: :bs: :evil: ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I saw that also Gunner. Probably true. Hope Cousins plays angry. Would be a big deal if we win. I remember how many presidents praised certain cabinet members and said that the president has full confidence and within a week they would be gone. Who knows. If we show up and look real bad then I would think the owners may think a little bit about the situation. good luck.
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Saw somthimg on ESPN this morning where the VP came out & said that there'd been no talk of Speilman &/or Zimmer not being there next season. :crazy: I think a lot of the time it's just some reporter playin like glenn. :doah: :bs: :evil: ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
i'm all for zim going to dallas…………...as long as he has to take cousins with. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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I think they're both under contract for next season yet.
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One of the few things I know about pro football is that contracts don't mean crap. :thumbs:
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My biggest concern is long term. We had Kyle Slohter and let him go. We had Bridgwater and let him go. We really do not have any young QB. What if they dump Cousins next year then what. We need to draft a young QB and work him in the system. No more QB"s that have been around for awhile. good luck.
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i'm making a bold prediction for the Vikings game tomorrow. by halftime the Vikings will be losing 24 - 3. and go on to lose 35 to 9.
Rhodes will be totally burnt crisp toast and the saints wide reciever, that Thomas, will set playoff receiving yards and reception records. :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:
And before anyone thinks otherwise it's been an :drinking: :toast: :tequila; free weekend. :mooning:
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You said earlier nothings free!!!! :scratch: :rotflmao: :toast:
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Does it really matter? The NFL is rigged anyhow.. :rotflmao: The word on the street is many want the aints to win it all.
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Sure a lot of talk of Zim going to Cowboys if Vikes blow this game. ???
Please! May be we can get a Coach that doesn't look like a Deer in head lights all the time and can give a after game interview and sound like he knew what just happen! :scratch:
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Where's the Saints vs Viqueens game thread?! :confused:
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No one?! Fine! :mooning:
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None in the Sports Forums, don't think 1 was ever started. :scratch: :confused:
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It is all in the Vikes thread Rebs.
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Well, I can't find it!!! The bet on score post? Not! :confused:
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Oh, that was just for the regular season Rebs. Now Glenn has the new game going for the playoffs.
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Somehow I KNEW it had the name GLENN all over it... :banghead:
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Somehow I KNEW it had the name GLENN all over it... :banghead:
:nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:
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Just heard 'em say that Sherels is gonna do a lot of the kick returns today. :cool: Saints cut him earlier before the Vikes picked him back up so bet he'd love to have a big game.
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GO MARCUS GO!!!! A JM GRAD!!! :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader:
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I'm pullin fur da Vikes :happy1:
However, ya may have ta get ready ta kiss yer :moon: goodbye :doah:
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Well the Vikings won the coun toss. Closes there gonna get to winning. :rotflmao:
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And there it goes........ :banghead:
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I'm pullin fur da Vikes :happy1:
However, ya may have ta get ready ta kiss yer :moon: goodbye :doah:
Well lookee who's pokin' his nose out! :rotflmao:
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Looks like the refs are saints friendly. :bonk: :confused:
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Looks like the refs are saints friendly. :bonk: :confused:
Well, why would they be vikes friendly?! That never happens! :bonk:
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Rudolph gets mugged, no call, thelen gets called for a petty :moon: hold. :pouty: and with cousins as QB how the hell they supposed to win.
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Well I figure cousins is due for a pick 6 pretty quick here. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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My oldest was telling me yesterday that the saints are 13-2 with this officiating crew.. :confused:
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Cousins sure is hanging onto that ball for a long time.... :rolleyes:
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Looks like the refs are saints friendly. :bonk: :confused:
Well, why would they be vikes friendly?! That never happens! :bonk:
Getting rid of Rhoades would help!!
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Come on dare boys :angry2: Never heard such cry baby stuff while yer team is hanging right in dare :mad1: Now cut da crap! :tut: and start ta tuffin up training-087 :doah:
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I see diggs is throwing a hissy fit again.
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I see diggs is throwing a hissy fit again.
Glenn's Quote..... "Rudolph gets mugged, no call, thelen gets called for a petty :moon: hold. :pouty: and with cousins as QB how the hell they supposed to win."
Talkin bout HISSY FITS! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao:
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:nerd: :nerd: :laughroll: :laughroll:
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Well here we go offense can't shut it down now gotta rely on our defense.
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OT...holy cowsnofski...! :shocked:
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wow......i'm speechless. maybe I need to insult cousins more!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey Glenn...need some katchup for that crow? :whistling: ;D
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I guess so on my way to the store to get another case.
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I guess so on my way to the store to get another case.
:rotflmao:
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Hey Glenn...need some katchup for that crow? :whistling: ;D
Love it!!! Glenn eat crow????? Like that has never happened before. I said to the better half....toss it to Rudolph!! :Clap: :Clap: :Clap:
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I like the way he skirted around the question if that play was made for him to catch it... ;)
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:happy1: Congrats ta all da Viking fans...Dat live in and out of da-state. :cheerleader:
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Hey Glenn...need some katchup for that crow? :whistling: ;D
Love it!!! Glenn eat crow????? Like that has never happened before. I said to the better half....toss it to Rudolph!! :Clap: :Clap: :Clap:
my reverse psychology worked. :sleazy: :sleazy:
Looks like they pack the golf clubs to San Francisco. :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Hey Glenn...need some katchup for that crow? :whistling: ;D
Love it!!! Glenn eat crow????? Like that has never happened before. I said to the better half....toss it to Rudolph!! :Clap: :Clap: :Clap:
Throw to Rudolph works every time and something they just have not done enough this year. Why, it's 3rd and 17 yards. Let's run it for 4 yard! :crazy:
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Hey Glenn...need some katchup for that crow? :whistling: ;D
Love it!!! Glenn eat crow????? Like that has never happened before. I said to the better half....toss it to Rudolph!! :Clap: :Clap: :Clap:
my reverse psychology worked. :sleazy: :sleazy:
Looks like they pack the golf clubs to San Francisco. :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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:happy1: Congrats ta all da Viking fans...Dat live in and out of da-state. :cheerleader:
So whatcha trying to say Lee, you just cant hide no mo ? You want us to schooch over and make room for ya? :happy1:
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Very proud of this team. I think they played with attitude today. Everyone including me thought they would loose. Cousins curse would rule the day and more. The reaction of the players after the game showed me they were really into this game and it meant a lot. Go Vikings!!!! good luck.
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my reverse psychology worked. :sleazy: :sleazy:
My reverse psychology is storm out of the house when they run again and fumble the ball and kick a field goal to tie the game with a few minutes to play, and go to Fleet Farm! :angry2:
It works every time. They Won! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Hey Glenn...need some katchup for that crow? :whistling: ;D
Love it!!! Glenn eat crow????? Like that has never happened before. I said to the better half....toss it to Rudolph!! :Clap: :Clap: :Clap:
I did the same GT!! :cool: Cousins even had a little trouble with the snap so that throw was :bow:. Now they're all sayin it should've been OPI at 1/2 time of the 2nd game. :tut: :mooning: :pouty:
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I seen that too gunner, just more brees backers.
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That throw to Thielen was just as good. :Clap:
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I have criticized Quirk as much as anyone. BUT he did a great job today. He hung in there, took some hits and some pressure but hung in there and did not give up this time. The D and the O both showed up at the same game and that is what it took. Great to see them get to Brees. LOLOL GO VIKES!!! AND great job by the coaching staff too!!!
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Other than the mix up on coverage between Rhodes & Smith on the long pass the defense had a great game, the offense struggled some in the 2nd half but not when it counted the most. :cool: Rhodes had some big plays after he was hurt even. :Clap: That holding call on Thielen was :bs:, I thought & the fumble wasn't really his fault as that defender put his helmet right on the ball. A couple of huge plays by Hunter & Harris on the TO's as well. :cool: :happybounce: :happybounce: :cheerleader: :cheerleader:
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Only downside was the nailbiter it was. Had to have a extra cocktail when it went into overtime. I was so hoping the kicker would miss that field goal at the end of the original game. The guy made it twice because of a penalty or something. Rudolf did push off of the defender somewhat but they didn't call it. I didn't think they would win that game but they did. Didn't think the Patriots would loose but they did. Thought the Saints would win but they didn't. Now its off to the 49rs who most think are going to win. Is this the year the teams that are favored will all loose? Crazy playoff year. good luck.
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Best entertainment and more on TV this year, IMO. :happy1:
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Zimmer called a time out way before the ball was even snapped & he was hot :angry2: when the refs didn't stop the play right away & let them kick it. 'Specially after they made it.
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Practice kick. :happy1:
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Was sure they were toast when NO tied it up & went to OT. :sad: Great to see Cook healthy & have the game he did. Helped open things up for Cousins. For those clamoring for an OPI call against Rudolph, it was pretty marginal given the amount of jostling that preceded the "push off", that on replay looked more like a "let go of me so I can catch this ball" move. Let's see if they can do it to SF next. :happy1:
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Other than the mix up on coverage between Rhodes & Smith on the long pass the defense had a great game, the offense struggled some in the 2nd half but not when it counted the most. :cool: Rhodes had some big plays after he was hurt even. :Clap: That holding call on Thielen was :bs:, I thought & the fumble wasn't really his fault as that defender put his helmet right on the ball. A couple of huge plays by Hunter & Harris on the TO's as well. :cool: :happybounce: :happybounce: :cheerleader: :cheerleader:
Regarding Rhodes and Smith...
Last time we talked about this (a couple of games back), I thought it was Rhodes' fault. Smith was on the line showing blitz and Rhodes let the guy run past. On the play yesterday, I think Smith blew it. On the receiver cut, Rhodes broke outside assuming he was going to get help inside. Smith should have been moving over in case the receive went post, which is what happened, but Smith was too late.
Fumbles...
I'm surprised there aren't more of them when you consider all the scratching, clawing, ripping, punching, and helmet sticking going on. That being said, Brees gave up an easy one when all Hunter did was smack him in the triceps. Yeah, the commentary guys used Brees' thumb injury as an excuse, but it looks like Brees got caught by surprise.
The Non-Call...
I didn't think Rudolph's contact rose to the level of offensive pass interference. The non-call was not egregiously missed and the refs were letting receivers and defenders mix it up all day. Sorry, but it couldn't have happened to a nicer team! (The only thing that would have made it better would be if it was the Cowboys. I'm sure we all remember 1975.)
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smith was coming up to cover Kamara............
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Looks like McCarthy got taken this AM by Dallas....maybe too, after that game, Zimmer's breathing easier...
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smith was coming up to cover Kamara............
I stand corrected. Now that I look at it real close, it was a wonder Smith was in the area at all. Kamara cut his route short and broke towards the near sideline where there were other Vikings defenders. Good for Smith to be able to recognize where the play was going and close the distance as soon as he did.
However, at the beginning of the play - at least the replay I saw - you can see Rhodes communicating with the other DB who was not on screen. Since there were no other receivers on the near sideline where the other DB was, I can only guess that he was expecting that DB to be playing center field while Smith was on Kamara and the other safety was up playing the run.
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Looks like McCarthy got taken this AM by Dallas....maybe too, after that game, Zimmer's breathing easier...
For some reason McCarthy always looked like the cable guy on Seinfeld to me... :huh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4z2fi2PTKQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4z2fi2PTKQ)
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the way insaw cook, he didnt make that touchdown. the ove head video clearly showed him about 10"short. finaly some go our way
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the way insaw cook, he didnt make that touchdown. the ove head video clearly showed him about 10"short. finaly some go our way
Doesn't look like it, does it? ...run the vid...
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/saints-vikings-dalvin-cook-touchdown-playoff-game-question
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his helmet clearly crossed the plain of the goal line...........there was never any real angle where you can see the ball. based on where he holds the ball it could of crossed............but there never really was a good view of where the ball was................
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It's hard to over turn tge call on field on a play like that.
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Think these would catch any fish???
In honor of the Vikings epic victory, JG’s Lures has decided to paint up a few Vikings inspired lipless baits! We will be giving these away in the Skol Giveaway this week. These baits will be clear coated and have hooks put on them before they are sent to our winner. To be eligible you must like JG’s Custom Lures page, like the original post, share the original post, tag two fishing buddies, and comment a number between 1-5000. One entry per person. We will do a random number generator to determine a winner next Saturday before the Vikes and San Francisco kickoff. Good luck and Skol Vikes!!!
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1214238583328034816 This is my attempt to copy and paste this GREAT video of all of the Sports Talk guys talk down the Vikes. Funny as heck now.
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HAHAHA!!! That's great!!!! :applause:
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:happy1: Congrats ta all da Viking fans...Dat live in and out of da-state. :cheerleader:
So whatcha trying to say Lee, you just cant hide no mo ? You want us to schooch over and make room for ya? :happy1:
:rotflmao: Listen up brozinski :angry2: I've always been a fan a-da vikes :moon: It's not my fault dat dem dare Vikes can't beat "DA Bears" :blues brothers:
An den ya got da noyve ta try and kick me below da belt. :doah:
Dat Not Nice Ma Brudder...... :tut:
(enlarge photo)
:Photography:
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PA's take from 'dis mornin'...
The Saints had one "game destroying" player on defense that Stefanski and the offense needed to account for.
The Niners' defense has FIVE such players plus Richard Sherman, who may or may not fit that category depending on how he plays on any given day.
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:happy1: Congrats ta all da Viking fans...Dat live in and out of da-state. :cheerleader:
So whatcha trying to say Lee, you just cant hide no mo ? You want us to schooch over and make room for ya? :happy1:
:rotflmao: Listen up brozinski :angry2: I've always been a fan a-da vikes :moon: It's not my fault dat dem dare Vikes can't beat "DA Bears" :blues brothers:
An den ya got da noyve ta try and kick me below da belt. :doah:
Dat Not Nice Ma Brudder...... :tut:
(enlarge photo)
:Photography:
Maybe ya should turn around and bend over so we can take better aim...do you know him? Ben Dover? :moon:
*click*
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1214238583328034816 This is my attempt to copy and paste this GREAT video of all of the Sports Talk guys talk down the Vikes. Funny as heck now.
Actually this is a TTT. (bump) I hope you guys look at this video. It is one of the best Vikings things I have ever seen. Turn up your speakers. This week the FOX guys, who I think are by far the best, are going to have to answer to this and it is going to be funny as heck!!!Z@@##!! It's kind of emotional so Aquaman may not want to watch....
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I love it! :happy1:
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I most certainly did like that LPS!!! :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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Even the crew on KFAN had the Saints winning. Meatsauce had the Saints by 40 something LOL. good luck
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I think pretty much everyone had the Saints winning. They had too many factors in their favor.
Heard the question asked many times: what has to happen if the Vikes are going to win and the answer would be to list off about a half dozen things that the Vikings hadn't done for several weeks: Big games from Cook & Thielen, superior offensive line play, pressure on Brees, turnovers on defense, big plays from Cousins, etc.
Guess what... all those things happened.
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I just heard Rosen say the 49ers arent the best run stoppers although pretty good. Theilen has a minor ankle injury from practice. :bonk: Maybe it is just hype to confuse SF. AND Diggs is sick today but supposed to be fine for the game. Hope he isn't whining..
Hey remember that memo about a year ago about how we have a jet? Where the heck is it? Is HD bogarting it? Wouldn't that be fun for all of us to fly down for the game in San Fran? Boar would have flowers in his hair I'm thinking....
Grand Forks weather said there may be some rain in that area on Sat.
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Are you maybe referring to Glenn's jet? :scratch:
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Hey I would fly in that but I would be wearing sunglasses as we boarded so noone recognized me. I have a correction to make about the weather at San Fran. It will be 57 for a high with 16 MPH winds and small craft warnings due to wind. The TV was talking about Frisco TX where the Bison will play this weekend. Still getting used to Fargo TV.
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Remember the bad calls that N.O. thinks they have gotten lately? Darn. I can't get it to paste. It was a pic of Favre in a refs uniform smiling....
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Heard 'em say thia mornin that Thielen hurt an ankle & was limited in pratice yday while Diggs has been sick so he's missed the last 2 days of practice. :rolleyes: Both are expected to play Saturday though.
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Barry said that yday.....he scooped ya. :reporter; :azn:
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:oops1: :sorry: Didn't read his post. :bonk: ;) :smiley:
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No problem...I forget about that anyway.... :bonk: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Remember the bad calls that N.O. thinks they have gotten lately? Darn. I can't get it to paste. It was a pic of Favre in a refs uniform smiling....
I saw that one too, but I couldn't paste it from twitter to here. I found this one instead...
(https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/00/06/05/16802133/5/375x250.jpg)
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Thielen had a cut on his ankle that happened in practice this week. It required stiches. good luck.
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THIS!
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That's It!!! Thanks Leech. I think that is great! Who wouldn't want to hang around with him for a few days. Shoot critters and drink beers.
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That's It!!! Thanks Leech. I think that is great! Who wouldn't want to hang around with him for a few days. Shoot critters and drink beers.
Farve doesn't drink!!!!!!!!! :happy1:
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If he was with you, he might! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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That's It!!! Thanks Leech. I think that is great! Who wouldn't want to hang around with him for a few days. Shoot critters and drink beers.
Farve doesn't drink!!!!!!!!! :happy1:
You don't say...
(https://www.si.com/.image/t_share/MTY4MTkxNDQ5NzQwNTUyMDkz/green-bay-packers-brett-favre-beerjpg.jpg)
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How would Glenn know anyway? :scratch:
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How would Glenn know anyway? :scratch:
cause i just read or heard it on the news like last week!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So, yer following Favre?! :tut:
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If he was with you, he would! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
That's more like it, Reb! ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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If he was with you, he would! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
That's more like it, Reb! ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
I was trying to be nice to the liddle feller, but that works better. :bonk: :rotflmao:
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If he was with you, he would! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
That's more like it, Reb! ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
I was trying to be nice to the liddle feller, but that works better. :bonk: :rotflmao:
:scratch: No point in it bud all you'll get for it is more :tut: :tut: :mooning: :mooning: :pouty: :pouty:. ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:banghead: :banghead: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :pouty: :pouty: :pouty: :pouty: :pouty: :evil: :smoking: :sleazy: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning:
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:reporter; Ranking the 16 potential Super Bowl matchups from best to worst :popcorn:
LET'S Hope dat der :party1: wrong. :embarrassed: :banghead:
:pouty: ...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ranking-the-16-potential-super-bowl-matchups-from-best-to-worst/ar-BBYPiMm
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:reporter; Ranking the 16 potential Super Bowl matchups from best to worst :popcorn:
LET'S Hope dat der :party1: wrong. :embarrassed: :banghead:
:pouty: ...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ranking-the-16-potential-super-bowl-matchups-from-best-to-worst/ar-BBYPiMm
From the article...
"7. Chiefs vs. Vikings: A rematch of Super Bowl IV exactly 50 years later would be pretty cool, but the Vikings aren’t very sexy."
Did they watch the game against the Saints?!? :confused:
That game had it all. If that wasn't sexy football, it don't know what is. :sleazy:
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Sure would be great if they win. :party1:
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super bowl...............there gonna lose by at least 10 tomorrow with capt choke behind the wheel!!!!!!!!
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Finished that crow already? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :bonk:
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So far it's been the year of the favorites loosing. So it's up in the air who the Vikings will play in the Super Bowl. good luck.
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Finished that crow already? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :bonk:
yep soused that bad boy up and gave it to da dog!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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:laughroll:
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:rotflmao: The dog will never trust you again.
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:rotflmao: The dog will never trust you again.
Ya, he did it now. :doah:
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Choke....choke...... choke.....
Never saw that coming?
What rock have you been living under? :rotflmao:
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Zim was way over coached again! He should just take care of D and then sit down and shut up. I do think we have good players that were not even utilized in this game. Pretty sad performance and I do think it was coaching!!!
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In the words of Dandy Don.....
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:pouty:
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Choke....choke...... choke.....
Never saw that coming?
What rock have you been living under? :rotflmao:
oh I seen it coming. :pouty:
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I thought they played OK....SF just was better. :undecided:
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Most definitely. Our o line just couldn't handle them.
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Choke....choke...... choke.....
Never saw that coming?
What rock have you been living under? :rotflmao:
oh I seen it coming. :pouty:
It's been the same all year, can't run the ball, no play action, offense really struggles. Against NO it was 40 runs for 136 yds, last night it ended up only 10 attempts for just 21 yds. :rolleyes: :sad: SF's defense got 3-4 guys back healthy & we were hurtin, 'specially our DB's. Havin to ask Harris & Sendejo to play our nickel/slot cornerback instead of their normal safety spots burned us a few times. :pouty: :bonk:
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Same old story every year. When you don't change anything nothing changes!! :crazy:
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Like I've been saying since the Denny Green days...they are the most inconsistent team I've ever seen. Choke has got to be their middle name. :rolleyes:
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This was a game that we got out coached big time. I kept yelling at the screen for Cousins to stay out of the pocket. That's not the place for him. He needed to roll out and then make the play. Whoever told him to stay in the pocket for nearly every play needs to go TODAY. Stefanski spent more time getting interviewed by the Browns than paying attention to the game plan. Why does the NFL allow this BS. Let him go TODAY. Zimmer is a good defensive coach but not a good head coach. We need a young aggressive head coach who motivates the players every game. We need a couple of young QB's who can grow with the team instead of guy's who has been around who will stay only for a few years and make their big money and go home. Didn't we go to the Super Bowl 4 times under Bud Grant? We lost but we got there. Since then it's been up and down but never on top. That's a long stretch. Coaching, Coaching and coaching. We have most of the players who can win except still the O line and some defensive back needs. Rhoads needs to go Today. Gave up another score yesterday. If we had the line the Titans have Cousins would have been a hero yesterday. It's not all on him. Cook is a great back but with this line he was running against a wall. Like I told my wife. I used to get upset and dwell on a loss like this for some time but I don't. Like LPS said, no changes, same outcome. good luck.
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Couldn't agree more RH. That Josh McDaniels that is O coordinator for the Patriots would be a good guy to have as a head coach. Young and very smart. I too used to be bothered all week until the next game when we lost. I don't anymore. (or I try not to)
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Not only the Cousins in the pocket get me pizzed off but with 9 minutes to go with 3 scores down we punt the ball :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: that to me is giving up not wanting to win. good luck.
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We did this good with Keenum. Sure didn't need to spend 84 mil and cash strap the team to get the same results we had with Keenum. Should have kept him and Sloter. Then we could go buy a big O line and other players as well. BUT Zim's bullheadedness prevented that from happening.
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I just saw on the screen of pregame talk. Kevin Stefanski offered head coach job with Cleveland. SO he was preoccupied with that whilst calling the game and we got clobbered. Just like the Shurmer and Philly distraction.
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Done deal. He took it. He's gone.
"Kevin Stefanski is an American football coach who is the head coach for the Cleveland Browns of the National Football League. He previously served as the offensive coordinator for the Minnesota Vikings."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001096127/article/browns-hiring-kevin-stefanski-as-next-head-coach
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and so it goes.................
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hope he takes cousins with him...…… Mayfield in a vikes uniform!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
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And Zim too...then I'd like to see Jon Gruden swing over this way! :happy1:
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We all know what happened to Shurmar, same will be for Steph. He just doesn't seem like a head coach to me. But then again maybe the Kubiak's will eventually take over this team.
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I almost hope the Kubiak entity is what the master plan has been.
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hope he takes cousins with him...…… Mayfield in a vikes uniform!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
:scratch: Maybe we could do another Herschel type trade & go get Mahomes? :bonk: :scratch: :rolleyes: :doah: ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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hope he takes cousins with him...…… Mayfield in a vikes uniform!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
:scratch: Maybe we could do another Herschel trade & go get Mahomes? :bonk: :scratch: :rolleyes: :doah: ;) :laugh: :laugh:
I'd go get that!! :happy1:
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hope he takes cousins with him...…… Mayfield in a vikes uniform!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
:scratch: Maybe we could do another Herschel trade & go get Mahomes? :bonk: :scratch: :rolleyes: :doah: ;) :laugh: :laugh:
I'd go get that!! :happy1:
:bonk: Bet they'd want our entire defense along with all our #1 & #2 picks for the next 5 years. :crazy:
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I saw on Facebook in the Viking thread they speculate that Rhodes, Treadwell, and Griffith wont be back next year. Griffith is more of a money issue. Treadwell is a looser and so is Rhodes. good luck.
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I hope they figure a way to keep Griffen. Another one they can't afford to lose is Anthony Harris
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We did this good with Keenum. Sure didn't need to spend 84 mil and cash strap the team to get the same results we had with Keenum. Should have kept him and Sloter. Then we could go buy a big O line and other players as well. BUT Zim's bullheadedness prevented that from happening.
That is exactly what I have been saying since before they signed Cousins. :happy1:
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Couldn't agree more RH. That Josh McDaniels that is O coordinator for the Patriots would be a good guy to have as a head coach. Young and very smart. I too used to be bothered all week until the next game when we lost. I don't anymore. (or I try not to)
Josh McDaniels was a disaster as a head coach for the Broncos. I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. The only reason he is succeeding is cause he is with the Patriots and no one on the team dares to challenge Belecheck or Brady. As long as McDaniels keeps those two happy, he'll be fine.
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sounds as though we lost are defensive coordinator to because the couldnt agree on a new contract!!!!!! :pouty:
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http://www.startribune.com/vikings-need-new-coordinators-with-kevin-stefanski-leaving-george-edwards-let-go/566937602/
:popcorn:
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http://www.startribune.com/vikings-need-new-coordinators-with-kevin-stefanski-leaving-george-edwards-let-go/566937602/
:popcorn:
So what is Kubiak's job...? Vice President of Advising Zim of What Not to Say in Press Conferences?
I'm not one of those guys who thinks we need one of those young, hot shot, innovative offensive coordinators to be our head coach. Yes, some have had success, but the verdict is still out on many. If given the choice between having Zim as our head coach and Stefanski, I'd still take Zim. In general, I think coaches and quarterbacks are given too much blame for failure and too much credit for success. However, you can always find exceptions.
It was kinda funny... In Zim's press conference this morning he said he spent an hour talking with Parcells about how to get the team over the hump. (He prolly should have had the conversation a week or so ago, but that is a different issue.) And he admitted that he did lots of things different this year. Reading between the lines he seemed to be saying that he had his player's backs more this year compared to previous seasons when he frequently called players out in news conferences.
Zim is a good coach and I never got the impression the players stopped playing for him. Further, I won'd say that Zim got out-coached Saturday - the team got out-played - and it certainly wasn't as simple as Zim allowing Stefanski to call more naked bootleg plays for Cousins. We just got beat.
Just curious - and I'm not trying to flame anyone - but if you could have anyone as a head coach for THIS roster (with next year's offseason moves), who would you guys want?
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http://www.startribune.com/vikings-need-new-coordinators-with-kevin-stefanski-leaving-george-edwards-let-go/566937602/
:popcorn:
So what is Kubiak's job...? Vice President of Advising Zim of What Not to Say in Press Conferences?
I'm not one of those guys who thinks we need one of those young, hot shot, innovative offensive coordinators to be our head coach. Yes, some have had success, but the verdict is still out on many. If given the choice between having Zim as our head coach and Stefanski, I'd still take Zim. In general, I think coaches and quarterbacks are given too much blame for failure and too much credit for success. However, you can always find exceptions.
It was kinda funny... In Zim's press conference this morning he said he spent an hour talking with Parcells about how to get the team over the hump. (He prolly should have had the conversation a week or so ago, but that is a different issue.) And he admitted that he did lots of things different this year. Reading between the lines he seemed to be saying that he had his player's backs more this year compared to previous seasons when he frequently called players out in news conferences.
Zim is a good coach and I never got the impression the players stopped playing for him. Further, I won'd say that Zim got out-coached Saturday - the team got out-played - and it certainly wasn't as simple as Zim allowing Stefanski to call more naked bootleg plays for Cousins. We just got beat.
Just curious - and I'm not trying to flame anyone - but if you could have anyone as a head coach for THIS roster (with next year's offseason moves), who would you guys want?
BURNSIE!!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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http://www.startribune.com/vikings-need-new-coordinators-with-kevin-stefanski-leaving-george-edwards-let-go/566937602/
:popcorn:
Just curious - and I'm not trying to flame anyone - but if you could have anyone as a head coach for THIS roster (with next year's offseason moves), who would you guys want?
BURNSIE!!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
Yes! :happy1:
“Let me say something: As long as I’m in this f***ing job, [Bob] Schnelker will be the offensive coach.
There will be no quest—f***ing about that. No f***ing questions about that.
I don’t like to name names after a f***ing, after a f***ing game.
But we can’t be responsible for the blocking, we can’t be responsible for the f***ing guys jumping offside,
we can’t be responsible for fu—we get down there, and it was a dumb play by [Alfred] Anderson.
I love Anderson.
But it was a dumb f***ing play when his shoe was coming off, up to the line of scrimmage, we were hollering to take [a] timeout.
We had a f***ing trap play called, and his f***ing shoe comes off.
That ain’t Bob Schnelker’s fault.
We had another f***ing trap play, and if [Rick] Fenney picks up his f***ing feet, he walks in.
We got the f***ing pass to AC [Anthony Carter] out there in the flat, and that ball’s thrown low.
That ain’t Schnelker’s fault.”
But seriously, of today's coaching pool, who would you want? :confused:
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I'm ok with Zimmer. I just wish he would let the OC alone. Why even have a DC when it seems that Zimmer makes most or all of the calls. I get it. They need one to work with the players in practice and more. The last game's play calling was terrible. I am no football expert but when you keep Cousins in the pocket pretty much all game you will lose. He is not a good pocket passer with the performance of the OL that day. Even Cook was running into a brick wall all game. Didn't take atvantage of our recievers and so on. Sure Cousins didn't have much time to pass, and that again was the result of our OL play that day. No QB could win that day with that line. Also Spielman made a great move getting our center in the draft. Now he needs more big body's. We do have a couple others we got in the draft who will step up next season. Rhodes needs to go period. Same with Tray Wanes. I would like to see Kubiak get the OC job. But would he want it? I think that is their first choice and then there is Shurmer. As far as seeing a better head coach right now that's available? Don't see one. good luck.
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1. No phone calls, interviews or anything until the party (coach) in question is done for the season. No exceptions. I believe we would have seen a different game on Saturday if this was in place.
2. I know he's currently not coaching, BUT I'd like to see Tony Dungy as HC. One of the dumbest things the Vikings ever did wrong was to let him go and keep Dennis Green. My two cents on that. :happy1:
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Please, just run, run, run off to Cleveland! 2 yards at a time! :happy1:
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1. No phone calls, interviews or anything until the party (coach) in question is done for the season. No exceptions. I believe we would have seen a different game on Saturday if this was in place.
2. I know he's currently not coaching, BUT I'd like to see Tony Dungy as HC. One of the dumbest things the Vikings ever did wrong was to let him go and keep Dennis Green. My two cents on that. :happy1:
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EXACTLY why I followed some of their best players down to Tampa Bay and became a Bucs fanatic for ten years! All the way to division champs in 2002 then 2003 Superbowl champs, whupping the raiders the same year 16 years ago today!!!!!!!! :happy1:
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Couldn't agree more RH. That Josh McDaniels that is O coordinator for the Patriots would be a good guy to have as a head coach. Young and very smart. I too used to be bothered all week until the next game when we lost. I don't anymore. (or I try not to)
Josh McDaniels was a disaster as a head coach for the Broncos. I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. The only reason he is succeeding is cause he is with the Patriots and no one on the team dares to challenge Belecheck or Brady. As long as McDaniels keeps those two happy, he'll be fine.
That's right I forgot about that.
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I'm ok with Zimmer. I just wish he would let the OC alone. Why even have a DC when it seems that Zimmer makes most or all of the calls. I get it. They need one to work with the players in practice and more. The last game's play calling was terrible. I am no football expert but when you keep Cousins in the pocket pretty much all game you will lose. He is not a good pocket passer with the performance of the OL that day. Even Cook was running into a brick wall all game. Didn't take atvantage of our recievers and so on. Sure Cousins didn't have much time to pass, and that again was the result of our OL play that day. No QB could win that day with that line. Also Spielman made a great move getting our center in the draft. Now he needs more big body's. We do have a couple others we got in the draft who will step up next season. Rhodes needs to go period. Same with Tray Wanes. I would like to see Kubiak get the OC job. But would he want it? I think that is their first choice and then there is Shurmer. As far as seeing a better head coach right now that's available? Don't see one. good luck.
Yes, from the outside looking in, it seems like Zim can be a meddler. And I think that is part of what Kubiak does - he tempers Zim. Zim used to have Tony Sparano to use as a sounding board for all things offense. Zim was kind of lost from an offensive perspective with DeFilippo the year Sparano died.
Yes, I'd love to have Shurmer back as OC. There are plenty of examples of OCs who got hired as head coaches, but didn't make it, and are now OCs or offensive consultants again: Scott Linehan, Brad Childress. I'm sure there are plenty of others from other teams in the league too. (Sadly, I just saw an article that says Shurmer is signed as the Bronco's OC.)
In terms of play calling Saturday... It has to be more complicated than we armchair quarterbacks make it out to be. I just think our offensive line got out-played and Cousins ain't they kind of guy who can win a game by himself. And there ain't many QBs in the league who can win games by themselves: Rodgers, Mahomes, Jackson, Wilson, and maybe Brees. I don't think I'm missing anyone.
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1. No phone calls, interviews or anything until the party (coach) in question is done for the season. No exceptions. I believe we would have seen a different game on Saturday if this was in place.
2. I know he's currently not coaching, BUT I'd like to see Tony Dungy as HC. One of the dumbest things the Vikings ever did wrong was to let him go and keep Dennis Green. My two cents on that. :happy1:
Yes, and when Brad Childress was coach, they also let Mike Tomlin get away - who (as a defensive-minded head coach) had immediate success.
And so as not to let lightning strike three times, they fired Chilly and promoted DC Leslie Frazier to head coach.
Frazier was a good coach and a nice guy, but not the right head coach for the Vikes at the time.
Now Frazier is doing well again as the Bills DC.
Would Jason Garret be better than Zim?
Would you have preferred McCarthy or Rivera?
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1. No phone calls, interviews or anything until the party (coach) in question is done for the season. No exceptions. I believe we would have seen a different game on Saturday if this was in place.
2. I know he's currently not coaching, BUT I'd like to see Tony Dungy as HC. One of the dumbest things the Vikings ever did wrong was to let him go and keep Dennis Green. My two cents on that. :happy1:
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EXACTLY why I followed some of their best players down to Tampa Bay and became a Bucs fanatic for ten years! All the way to division champs in 2002 then 2003 Superbowl champs, whupping the raiders the same year 16 years ago today!!!!!!!! :happy1:
TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I hope they figure a way to keep Griffen. Another one they can't afford to lose is Anthony Harris
:scratch: Griffen's been with the team the longest, is what I read. :confused: He'd like to stay & play 3-4 more years so he can retire as a Viking but knows that might not work out.
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1. No phone calls, interviews or anything until the party (coach) in question is done for the season. No exceptions. I believe we would have seen a different game on Saturday if this was in place.
2. I know he's currently not coaching, BUT I'd like to see Tony Dungy as HC. One of the dumbest things the Vikings ever did wrong was to let him go and keep Dennis Green. My two cents on that. :happy1:
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EXACTLY why I followed some of their best players down to Tampa Bay and became a Bucs fanatic for ten years! All the way to division champs in 2002 then 2003 Superbowl champs, whupping the raiders the same year 16 years ago today!!!!!!!! :happy1:
TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Ya, and look what happens with 'em when I come back!!! Same ol' thing!! :bonk: :mooning:
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Steve-o. I would have personally love to see Mike McCarthy as Vikings HC. Too bad he went to Dallas.
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1. No phone calls, interviews or anything until the party (coach) in question is done for the season. No exceptions. I believe we would have seen a different game on Saturday if this was in place.
2. I know he's currently not coaching, BUT I'd like to see Tony Dungy as HC. One of the dumbest things the Vikings ever did wrong was to let him go and keep Dennis Green. My two cents on that. :happy1:
Yes, and when Brad Childress was coach, they also let Mike Tomlin get away - who (as a defensive-minded head coach) had immediate success.
And so as not to let lightning strike three times, they fired Chilly and promoted DC Leslie Frazier to head coach.
Frazier was a good coach and a nice guy, but not the right head coach for the Vikes at the time.
Now Frazier is doing well again as the Bills DC.
Would Jason Garret be better than Zim?
Would you have preferred McCarthy or Rivera?
I wondered about them too SO. I wanted McCarthy.
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sounds as though we lost are defensive coordinator to because the couldnt agree on a new contract!!!!!! :pouty:
Just read a SI article that said that Zimmer's kid has a good chance to take over as DC along with Kubiak's kid takin over for Stefanski. :scratch: The author was the 1st to report, ~ 12/25, that Edwards was leaving so he's got some good sources. :confused:
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nep·o·tism /ˈnepəˌtizəm/
noun
The practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs.
Zim better be right - because everybody's a$$ will be on the line: Zim, his kid, Kubiak, HIS kid, Spielman, and even Cousins - 'cause he prolly makes more that the first five guys put together. It will be interesting to see who gets contract extensions this off season.
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Watched an late nite NFL Talk show last nite..(total access?) Anywho, two analysts were talkin' and saying Stefanski was the one who kept the O together, and it's his credit that Capn' Kirk improved as much as he did. Also said he's analytical, and was able to use that to figger out how the Vikes could do better, with all those qualities, that's why the Browns hired him.... :rolleyes:
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Lots of $ tied up in Zimmer's defense so not a lot of cap space left for the offense. :rolleyes: Thielen, Diggs, Rudolph, & Cousins are getting a good share of that.
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Sideline reporter and former Vikings linebacker Ben Leber suggested that Diggs might make good trade bait. Diggs more so than Thielen because Diggs is faster.
He also noted there was so much cap space tied up in QB and WRs, which didn't make sense for a team that wanted to make the run and play action pass a major part of its identity.
You have to give up something good to get something good, and sometimes you have to find that next guy to replace him and coach him up.
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Sideline reporter and former Vikings linebacker Ben Leber suggested that Diggs might make good trade bait. Diggs more so than Thielen because Diggs is faster.
He also noted there was so much cap space tied up in QB and WRs, which didn't make sense for a team that wanted to make the run and play action pass a major part of its identity.
You have to give up something good to get something good, and sometimes you have to find that next guy to replace him and coach him up.
:happy1: Belichick & the Patriots did that all the time, he refused to give anybody top $. He'd find somebody else who could get it done. It's 1 of the major reasons they've been so successful, that & he had control of personnel decisions.
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Sideline reporter and former Vikings linebacker Ben Leber suggested that Diggs might make good trade bait. Diggs more so than Thielen because Diggs is faster.
He also noted there was so much cap space tied up in QB and WRs, which didn't make sense for a team that wanted to make the run and play action pass a major part of its identity.
You have to give up something good to get something good, and sometimes you have to find that next guy to replace him and coach him up.
:happy1: Belichick & the Patriots did that all the time, he refused to give anybody top $. He'd find somebody else who could get it done. It's 1 of the major reasons they've been so successful, that & he had control of personnel decisions.
i think they should hire reb and del to run the vikings!!!!!!!!! :nerd: :nerd: :super smiley: :super smiley: :super smiley: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll:
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Maybe the Patriots would take Diggsie off our hands in exchange for some help with our O-Line, D-line and/or draft picks.
Still, you hate to deal with Belicheck, cause you're afraid he knows something you don't, and you don't want to get stuck with damaged goods.
What ever happened to the days when Spielman would fleece teams in trades: Sidney Rice, Percy Harvin? I wish there was more.
Lately it seems we've been the ones getting fleeced. Kicker Vedvig comes to mind immediately.
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They are going to do something with that cap space. So far I see Rhodes, Rudolf, and Griffith gone. Hate to see Diggs gone. He has a bad attitude at times [penalized 15 yards for throwing his helmet] pouting on the sidelines. But he makes up for it with some great plays and always wants that ball. good luck.
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I am sad to see Stefanski go. As mentioned above I do believe he did keep the O guys together. He has known them for a long time in his different positions here. I think he is just another O coordinator that is tired of Zimms crap. That is a big problem that we still have I think. We are now down to hiring their kids cuz noone else really wants to work with him.
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Sideline reporter and former Vikings linebacker Ben Leber suggested that Diggs might make good trade bait. Diggs more so than Thielen because Diggs is faster.
He also noted there was so much cap space tied up in QB and WRs, which didn't make sense for a team that wanted to make the run and play action pass a major part of its identity.
You have to give up something good to get something good, and sometimes you have to find that next guy to replace him and coach him up.
:happy1: Belichick & the Patriots did that all the time, he refused to give anybody top $. He'd find somebody else who could get it done. It's 1 of the major reasons they've been so successful, that & he had control of personnel decisions.
i think they should hire reb and del to run the vikings!!!!!!!!! :nerd: :nerd: :super smiley: :super smiley: :super smiley: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll:
Oh, stop it! :tut: I don't know enough to run them, but I'm sure Delmar would look it up. ;)
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I think with Stefanski it's more about wanting a head coaching job than working with Zimmer. That's what all of these coaches want to be. A head coach. Stefanski knows he is going to get the No. 1 pick in the draft and I think he will pick LSU's QB. Plus he is taking the Vikings DC and defensive back's coach with him which he has known for a long time. Shurmer left also to be a head coach and now he is available for OC but probably go to Denver. good luck.
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I am sad to see Stefanski go. As mentioned above I do believe he did keep the O guys together. He has known them for a long time in his different positions here. I think he is just another O coordinator that is tired of Zimms crap. That is a big problem that we still have I think. We are now down to hiring their kids cuz noone else really wants to work with him.
Despite the fact that the Vikes go through O-coordinators like nobody's business, I don't think there is a shortage of people who would want to work with Zim.
I don't think we give Zim enough credit. Everyone gives him grief for "forcing" his offensive coordinator to stay dedicated to the run. He knows better than anyone what Cousins' limitations are and understands that without play action, Cousins isn't very good.
Yes, losing Stefanski will be a hit - just like it was a hit when we lost Shurmer - but all teams take hits. The fact that the Vikes keep losing offensive coordinators as head coaches indicates that maybe Spielman and Zim are doing something right. But unfortunately hires like Norv Turner and DiFilippo shoot my argument down.
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:scratch: I don't see Rudolph leavin, Diggs maybe, depending what they can get for him. :confused: A lot of good WR's in last nights game & I think it's 1 of the stronger positions in the upcoming draft, so why pay Diggs his $14.4 mil/year. :tut: :bonk:
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:scratch: I don't see Rudolph leavin, Diggs maybe, depending what they can get for him. :confused: A lot of good WR's in last nights game & I think it's 1 of the stronger positions in the upcoming draft, so why pay Diggs his $14.4 mil/year. :tut: :bonk:
Patriots might pay Diggs $14M so Brady has someone to throw to. Just sayin.
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I think we have the 25th pick in the first round. Don't know about the rest of the picks. So for us to get a decent QB for a pick is slim but they could trade upward. Someone could want Diggs bad enough to give the Vikings a better spot but it would involve some players as well if it was me to make the deal. But that's what is fun about being a fan and wishing and wanting and guessing what will happen. good luck.
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I can't see us trading up to get a QB unless the deal is too good to be true.
I'd rather find a stud for the o-line and worry about a QB next season when Cousins comes off the books.
A big part of the winning formula these days is getting a good QB on a rookie deal so you have money to spend on other assets. If you plan to "red shirt" a rookie QB, that is one less year your window is open for building a team around him.
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I even enjoy the draft and the hype up to it. At least we can think about the team improving. I do watch it too. We have this Jake Browning guy on our practice squad that the Vikes just gave an extension or something like that. He played in Washington and I don't know anything about him. Zim will be intimidated by him if he looks good in preseason and get rid of him.
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:scratch: I don't see Rudolph leavin, Diggs maybe, depending what they can get for him. :confused: A lot of good WR's in last nights game & I think it's 1 of the stronger positions in the upcoming draft, so why pay Diggs his $14.4 mil/year. :tut: :bonk:
Patriots might pay Diggs $14M so Brady has someone to throw to. Just sayin.
Not really what Bill does much :tut: but I believe Kraft is more in favor of keepin #12 or havin him retire than BB is & he writes the checks. :scratch:
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so, i see where 5 more vikings were added to the pro bowl roster.
mr choke cousins
griffen
ham
hedricks, and
burnt toast rhodes........... how the hell he get there :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: noone else in his position across the league wanted to go???????????????????????????????
the other 3 deserve to go !!!!!!!!!!!
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i suppose guys on the SF team have declined to appear so that opens more spots for others to participate. It may inflate his worth so maybe we can trade him.
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Players that are playing in the super bowl never play in the pro bowl, ever since the pro bowl is prior to the big one. Risk of injury is the main reason.
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so, i see where 5 more vikings were added to the pro bowl roster.
mr choke cousins
griffen
ham
hedricks, and
burnt toast rhodes........... how the hell he get there :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: noone else in his position across the league wanted to go???????????????????????????????
the other 3 deserve to go !!!!!!!!!!!
Just read the other day that Trae Waynes was their only CB the graded out to be in the top 50 in the league, so :scratch: :confused:
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In my opinion they should get rid of the pro bowl. Every year the same thing. Top players don't play for one reason or another. Why should they. Risk of injury as been said is the top reason. Just name the players to the pro list of the year and honor them that way. The game is a joke that hardly anyone watches anymore. Rhodes to the pro bowl :bonk: :bonk: :bonk:. good luck.
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Pro bowl is a joke. Should just turn it into a big celeb picnic.
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I rarely ever watch it. I may tune in for a few minutes just to see the festivities. They should eliminate the game and just show them having fun. Well I guess that is what it is.... They enjoy bringing their families, seeing other players, and just having fun. That's what Alex Boone was just talking about. Plus they get paid good for it too.
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Me too. I like watching the competitions that they have prior to the game. That is more fun to me.
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Pro bowl is a joke. Should just turn it into a big celeb picnic.
better then the hallmark channel, or dancing with the stars, or the bachelor, or survivor or, ellen or general hospital,. or.................... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Pro bowl is a joke. Should just turn it into a big celeb picnic.
better then the hallmark channel, or dancing with the stars, or the bachelor, or survivor or, ellen or general hospital,. or.................... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Well, quit watching them then, ya silly goose!!! :doah: :rotflmao:
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i dont......wifey does............ :puke: :puke: :surrender: :bs:
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Pro bowl is a joke. Should just turn it into a big celeb picnic.
better then ... dancing with the stars .... or.................... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
You sure about that?
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:scratch: Thought I seen somethin about Kubiak going to be named OC scroll across the screen on ESPN yday. :confused:
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I saw that also Gunner. Looks like he is in as OC. Good move by the Vikings. good luck.
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as long as cousins is the QB............noone is going to make it better!!!!!!! :bonk: :bonk: :pouty: :pouty:
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Read that today in the Albert's Leaf lamb box liner. Like the continuity aspect now let's get some offensive linemen who aren't so offensive! :shocked:
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I don't think us fans will ever have enough information to separate Kubiak's and Stefanski's contributions to last years successes and failures.
And yes, we won't find a better QB than Cousins for next year.
I think it is on Spielman now to draft, trade, buy, or keep the players to fit Zim's system and make it better.
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Kubiak had some serious health issues at the end with Denver & that is why he left. I hope there's no re-occurence with this new job.
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Yep, go figure. I just turned on the toobe, turned the pro bowl on. Guess who the QB is?! Yep our own mr choke, cousins. First play I see, he fumbles and the AFC, runs it back for a defense TD. :pouty: :doofus: :doofus:
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He fumbles twice and throws an INT!!🥴🥴
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Did you expect anything else?? :crazy:
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Did you expect anything else?? :crazy:
no. Can't believe he was even there!! :doofus: :doofus: :thumbs:
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Well, quit watching it, ding dong!! :bonk:
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Well, quit watching it, ding dong!! :bonk:
:tut: :tut: awe... You know what!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Me like football 👍 can't help if he was there :confused: :doofus:
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Well then, football this! 🏈
https://www.today.com/news/tim-tebow-demi-leigh-nel-peters-tie-knot-south-africa-t172179?amp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE=&cid=referral_taboolafeed
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Well now he can finally lose his cherry. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I'm betting he ain't a virgin anymore..... :sleazy:
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I'm betting he ain't a virgin anymore..... :sleazy:
Looks like she was worth the wait...
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... just sayin'
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:scratch: Well yeah, 2017 Miss Universe! :hubba: :wowza:
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Well, she was Miss Universe.....and he was Mr Dork..... :rotflmao:
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Well, she was Miss Universe.....and he was Mr Dork..... :rotflmao:
:pouty: :pouty: :pouty: where's your diversity training bubba?????????? :pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: :tut: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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It was left on a wandering camel somewhere.....🐫 What's diversity got to do with Tebow? :scratch:
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It was left on a wandering camel somewhere.....🐫 What's diversity got to do with Tebow? :scratch:
well............. :tut: :tut: :tut: calling Tebow a dork.....and she is from south america.........isnt very diverse appropriate!!!!!!!!!! :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Since when have you become politically correct and appropriate???! :laughroll:
Danged pot stirrer!!! :mooning:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Since when have you become politically correct and appropriate???! :laughroll:
Danged pot stirrer!!! :mooning:
about 10 seconds before i posted that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Since when have you become politically correct and appropriate???! :laughroll:
Danged pot stirrer!!! :mooning:
about 10 seconds before i posted that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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so did anyone else watch the Pro Bowl????????? they tried a new rule in the game that i thought was pretty cool. apparently statistics show the majority of concussions come on kicks and/or punts.
not sure as i didnt catch it but if the team is losing, and scores and is still behind with only so much time left on the clock, maybe 3 minutes, maybe 2????? instead of doing this off side kick stuff, which isnt very successful the team gets the ball on the 25 yardline. its considered a 4th and 15 yards for a first down. if you complete the 15 yards or first down you keep the ball. if not the opposing team gets the ball.
of course thats when our choke of a QB threw an interception!!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty:
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So, yer concussion was from a punt to the head? :bonk:
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So, yer concussion was from a punt to the head? :bonk:
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Man, I hope they don't replace the on-side kick play with 4th and 15.
First, what was the old success ratio for on-side kicks before they changed the rules. Not very good, but they were successful occasionally in desperation scenarios.
After they changed the kick-off rules - kicking team can't overload one side of the ball and can't run up to the kick - onside kicks are virtually never successful now.
If they change the rule, what are the odds of converting 4th down and 15 yards to go?
How about if you are an elite passing offense playing against a "prevent" defense that is back on their heels after just allowing a score?
I don't know the exact answer, but I'll bet the odds of converting on 4th and 15 are better than on-side kicks ever were.
I know I'm a scarred and jaded Vikings fan, but I can see this rule adding two additional losses to our season every year. :doah:
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i like it!!!!!!!!!! just to be clear its not the opponents 25. its the same 25 yardline iffin the kicker kicks it out of the end zone.
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It's official, Gary Kubiak is the new OC for the Vikings. Great move in my opinion. good luck.
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Yup I liked Stefanski but Kubiak is tried and tested. Great move.
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After batteling brain cancer for 2 years Chris Doleman is dead at 58. Loved watching him play. One of the greatest of all time. good luck.
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Darn right. RIP Chris
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Was listening to SKOR North which is old KSTP 1500 radio. Online it is just SKOR. I go back and forth from KFAN to these guys. It is Vikings talk from 2 - 4 every afternoon. Usually goes later than that. Still talking Vikes now. They are talking Doleman stuff too. They had an interview with Darin Nelson and asked him about Doleman. He said he was fun in the locker room and that at one time he started to carry a briefcase. Noone was going to say anything to a tough guy like him but they wondered what was in the briefcase. It was lunch!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: He also said that when the D line did their running drills it was funny cuz Doleman was so far ahead of all of the other guys as he was so fast and athletic. LOL
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last night on the #4 news they showed a clip of when Doleman was back in Minnesota for some team activities. holy crap did he look tough. looked like it was right after his surgery, he had slurred speech. was really tough to see that!!!!!
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Ruesse said the first time Doleman was here he was not a very nice person. Young and tough but when he came back the second time he was the nicest guy. Must have been less pressure on him then. ??
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I just happened to see Dalvin Cook and some other NFL players are on Rachel Ray making SB food.
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I just happened to see Dalvin Cook and some other NFL players are on Rachel Ray making SB food.
:bonk: :bonk: :banghead: :banghead: you need to find something useful to do..volunteer whatever :confused: if your resorting to watching that!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I just happened to see Dalvin Cook and some other NFL players are on Rachel Ray making SB food.
:bonk: :bonk: :banghead: :banghead: you need to find something useful to do..volunteer whatever :confused: if your resorting to watching that!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:happy1: :tut: & if you need somethin to do...........................get to work! :rolleyes: :sleazy: :nerd: :laugh: :laugh:
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Ruesse said the first time Doleman was here he was not a very nice person. Young and tough but when he came back the second time he was the nicest guy. Must have been less pressure on him then. ??
I heard Chris Carter on a radio interview talking about Doleman last night. I didn't catch all of it, but Carter was talking about a pilgrimage they were on together to the Holy Land, re-baptized in the Jordan River, etc. My guess is that somewhere along the way Doleman might have had a conversion of sorts which changed his perspective and outlook on life. RIP
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I just happened to see Dalvin Cook and some other NFL players are on Rachel Ray making SB food.
:bonk: :bonk: :banghead: :banghead: you need to find something useful to do..volunteer whatever :confused: if your resorting to watching that!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:happy1: :tut: & if you need somethin to do...........................get to work! :rolleyes: :sleazy: :nerd: :laugh: :laugh:
i am!!!!!!! :mooning: :mooning: HD hired me as a full time pot stirrer!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :sleazy: :evil:
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:scratch: He better renegotiate your contract 'cause your overpaid. ;) You should be payin him! :doofus: :sleazy: :laugh:
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I just happened to see Dalvin Cook and some other NFL players are on Rachel Ray making SB food.
:bonk: :bonk: :banghead: :banghead: you need to find something useful to do..volunteer whatever :confused: if your resorting to watching that!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Actually I turned on the TV after my trip to town and there was Cook. I saw him first and then Rachel... It was a good show too.
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I watch Rachel once in a while. :smiley:
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she can be funny and fun to watch... I see once in awhile too..
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I haven't seen her for awhile. I see she really packed on the pounds. That is a sign of a good cook.
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I watch Rachel once in a while. :smiley:
yea well you i understand!!!!!!!!! :doofus: :doofus: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Ya, you wouldn't like her. She doesn't open cans of 'sketti or eat lotsa slopsa pizzas! :mooning:
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I like Rachel myself. She was slimmer awhile back when she was married. I believe she went through a divorce some time ago. The last time I saw her she wasn't as heavy so maybe she's back on the dating scene. I have made some of her recipes and they turned out good. good luck.
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Huh! I just saw them on TV saying they were still married... :scratch:
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Number one I do like her show, just haven't watched it much lately for no reason at all. I like the 30 minute meal deal and may watch that more often. She laid taco chips on a cookie sheet, shredded a rotisserie chicken from the store. Then covered it with cheese, then picante type sauce, then more cheese jalapenos, etc. Then baked it for 15 minutes. Looked great! And the word on the street has always been that her and her husband always had an open marriage and would see other people. Can't see that working for long and wondered which one instigated that arrangement.
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I wax just giving you crap LPS cause I knew It get Reb all worked up. :sleazy: :snow5: :laughroll: :laughroll:
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You were in on that open marriage thing program with her weren't you? So Vikes thread so I am saying 10 wins this year.
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You guys are a buncha meenies! :angry: :mooning:
I'll take Giada, you can have Rachel.... :evil:
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Ya she is pretty hot. Daughter of millionaire movie people. AND she was having an affair with Bobby Flay and they tried to pay her husband money to keep it quiet so it wouldn't hurt her millions of dollars business. I am not real fond of her and Bobby Flay now. SO how about this new young breath of fresh of air Molliy???? Young married very smart and talented girl. Just had a baby and has a nice looking family. ???? Oh ya Vikes thread so I hope we keep Dalvin Cook...
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Ya she is pretty hot. Daughter of millionaire movie people. AND she was having an affair with Bobby Flay and they tried to pay her husband money to keep it quiet so it wouldn't hurt her millions of dollars business. I am not real fond of her and Bobby Flay now. SO how about this new young breath of fresh of air Molliy???? Young married very smart and talented girl. Just had a baby and has a nice looking family. ???? Oh ya Vikes thread so I hope we keep Dalvin Cook...
don't care for either one..........
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Ya she is pretty hot. Daughter of millionaire movie people. AND she was having an affair with Bobby Flay and they tried to pay her husband money to keep it quiet so it wouldn't hurt her millions of dollars business. I am not real fond of her and Bobby Flay now. SO how about this new young breath of fresh of air Molliy???? Young married very smart and talented girl. Just had a baby and has a nice looking family. ???? Oh ya Vikes thread so I hope we keep Dalvin Cook...
:happy1: way to keep on topic!! :rotflmao:
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...said the pot stirrer as he called the kettle black... :bonk:
I thought Bud Grant was great! :rotflmao:
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Ooohhh, don't call him black!!! :doah:
How about that Fran Tarkenton! 🏈
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: I liked Joe Kapp too.
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How about those chiefs!
:dancinred: :cheerleader: :dancinred: :cheerleader: :dancinred: :cheerleader: :dancinred: :cheerleader: :dancinred: :cheerleader: :dancinred: :cheerleader: :dancinred:
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How about those chiefs!
:dancinred: :cheerleader: :dancinred: :cheerleader: :dancinred: :cheerleader: :dancinred: :cheerleader: :dancinred: :cheerleader: :dancinred: :cheerleader: :dancinred:
:pouty: :offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic: :pouty: :rotflmao:
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BITE ME! :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning:
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Vikes add Dom Capers as Senior D Assistant!
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:happy1: Another set of eyes, a lot of experince, take a little off Zimmer's shoulders. :cool:
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Vikes add Dom Capers as Senior D Assistant!
as long as we got the CHOKE........ cousins, the vikings could hire god.........and we aint going to no super bowl!!!!!!!!!! :confused: :confused: :evil: :pouty: :pouty:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Vikes add Dom Capers as Senior D Assistant!
as long as we got the CHOKE........ cousins, the vikings could hire god.........and we aint going to no super bowl!!!!!!!!!! :confused: :confused: :evil: :pouty: :pouty:
:tut: Why don't start cheerin for Erin? :pouty: ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Maybe :scratch: you like :sleazy: him better? :nerd: :nerd:
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well when it comes to winning big games that the QB needs to step up..........Erin is way way way up on cousins.................
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:wowza: :wowza: Yup, man crush, I knew it. :kiss: ;) ;D ;D Not so hot this year with all those 49 ers hangin on him every play. :tut: :mooning:
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well when it comes to winning big games that the QB needs to step up..........Erin is way way way up on cousins.................
:confused: 2019 NFL Playoffs, Vikings & Cousins 1-1.............................GB & Erin 0-1 :tut: :mooning: :nerd: :nerd:
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I just hadda make a Cap'n Kirk meme...........:rotflmao:
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well when it comes to winning big games that the QB needs to step up..........Erin is way way way up on cousins.................
:confused: 2019 NFL Playoffs, Vikings & Cousins 1-1.............................GB & Erin 0-1 :tut: :mooning: :nerd: :nerd:
:pouty: :pouty:how many SB'S has the choke got????? what are there total playoff records. :scratch: :scratch: whoopdydoo just one year. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
cousins has never even got to the NFC championship game..........unless he bought tickets!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:tut: Not much of a chance in DC, 1 game with a 9-7 team. Rodgers is 10-8 all time in the playoffs & he's 'bout done the way he looked this season. They can't protect him & he doesn't have anybody to throw to. :tut: Give him another 15 shots at it & see what what happens. :scratch: YOU LIKE THAT? ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:tut: Not much of a chance in DC, 1 game with a 9-7 team. Rodgers is 10-8 all time in the playoffs & he's 'bout done the way he looked this season. They can't protect him & he doesn't have anybody to throw to. :tut: Give him another 15 shots at it & see what what happens. :scratch: YOU LIKE THAT? ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:mooning: :mooning: aint gonna ever happen!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mooning: :mooning: :evil: :rotflmao:
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:dancinred: :dancinred: :blues brothers: :rocker; oh boy........oh boy.....oh boy.........i just read a football article on MSN. dere's a rumor that the vikings may trade MR CHOKE........COUSINS to san diego and go out and resign Teddy Bridgewater. :happy1: :happy1: :cool:
oh boy...............oh boy.......... :reporter; :happybounce: :happybounce: :happybounce: :dancinred: :dancinred: :blues brothers: :blues brothers: :rocker; :rocker; :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3:
that actually happens...i'm going a a 3 day drunk!!!!!!!!!! :drinking: :drinking: :drinking: :drinking: :tequila; :tequila; :drinking: :rotflmao:
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I've been hearing that too. And Shanahan from San Fran wanted to get Cousins before we did. So a trade for Garapalo is possible too. I would like that and to also have Teddy for backup. Long shot. Would be fun to have Teddy back but man I worry about him getting hurt.
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Can't see it happening but it would free up a lot of cap space. I think they will go with Cousins for one more year. good luck.
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:crazy: There's a better chance of them re-signing Favre IMO. :thumbs:
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Sporting News Ranked the top Free Agent QBs...
Ranking 2020 NFL free-agent QBs, from Tom Brady to Drew Brees to Ryan Tannehill (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-free-agent-quarterbacks-2020-ranking/jexwo8bxito918v7j5llki551)
Even if they could find someone to take Kirk off our hands in the last year of his deal, I don't think the options are as appealing as everyone makes them sound.
Dak Prescott, Cowboys, Age: 26 - Cowboy's will Franchise Tag Him
Drew Brees, Saints, Age: 41 - I'll bet he retires if the Saints don't want to sign him back.
Tom Brady, Patriots, Age: 42 - Don't know where he will end up, but I don't think he'd want to be in Minnesota and I wouldn't want him either.
Ryan Tannehill, Titans, Age: 32 - Titans can't/won't let this guy go.
Jameis Winston, Buccaneers, Age: 26 - Wouldn't touch him.
Philip Rivers, Chargers, Age: 38 - He reminds me of a much older Kirk Cousins - usually good, but never great.
Teddy Bridgewater, Saints, Age: 27 - He is the devil we know! I still think he has plenty of up-side, but I don't know if he would come back after being let go after the injury. My favorite option.
Marcus Mariota, Titans, Age: 26 - Another guy I wouldn't touch. Benched for Tannehill.
Case Keenum, Redskins, Age: 31 - I was on the Keenum bandwagon after Kirk stunk up Year One of his three year deal, but I've since gone cold on Case. He and the Vikes caught lightning in a bottle for the better part of half a season, but I that ain't happening again.
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Ya I pretty much agree. I am not a big Cousins fan but there are not many options. Of course it would be fun to draft someone but that is not an instant winning deal neither.
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Yep, the best formula for NFL success is to draft a "Franchise QB" on his rookie deal so you can outspend the other teams for the best position players.
But drafting a QB is no sure thing. 1/2 of them don't pan out at all, and of the ones that do, only a select few are good enough to lead a team through the playoffs in their first couple of seasons.
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:confused: :confused: :pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: :censored: :doah: :doah:
awe youz guyz are nuttin but a bunch of negative nellies!!!!!!!! :confused: :confused: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :pouty: :pouty: :pouty: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Sarah Huckabee still holding on line #1....... :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Oh boy, she would have fun with our Glenn once she got her mitts on him.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Oh boy, she would have fun with our Glenn once she got her mitts on him.
:smoking: yea i'd take a run at her once!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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So what do you all think about the Cousins to SF trade? I am all for it. This doesn't seem like the team for him. Maybe we get Garapalo? Man he was really talked up during the draft. Has a great winning percentage. I did hear them say he doesn't throw well outside of the hash marks. Maybe that can be fixed?? Or do they try to get Teddy back? Can't help but like him but is he that good??? Maybe. Hasn't happened that but looks highly possible now.
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i heard a little bit about that this morning on the radio.........cousins for Jimmy............... HELL YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bow: :bow: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :dancinred: :rocker; :rocker; :rocker; :rocker; :rocker; :rocker; :rocker; :blues brothers: :blues brothers: :blues brothers: :blues brothers: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3: :party3:
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:oops1: :sorry:
i may have got a bit carried away!!!!!!!!!!! :sleazy: :confused: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I'm with ya Buddy!!
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:scratch: :banghead: :thumbs: No way! :rolleyes: That means Zimmer, Spielman, & the Wilfs all have to publicly admit they f***ed up by signing him in the 1st place! :tut: :pouty: Not happenin IMO, egos are way too big. :crazy:
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I'm with gunner. I think if the o line could give him some time he would be better.
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:doah: :pouty: awe come on.....at least humor me!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:doah: :pouty: awe come on.....at least humor me!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
OK ...............................HERE!! :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :super smiley: :super smiley: :super smiley: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll:
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:doah: :pouty: awe come on.....at least humor me!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
OK ...............................HERE!! :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :super smiley: :super smiley: :super smiley: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll:
:pouty: :pouty: :doah: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Lotsa wasted space there.... :coffee:
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🏈 this'll make Glenn shoot tears everywhere. ;)
https://kttc.com/2020/03/12/nfl-teams-curtailing-or-stopping-scouting-operations/
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🏈 this'll make Glenn shoot tears everywhere. ;)
https://kttc.com/2020/03/12/nfl-teams-curtailing-or-stopping-scouting-operations/
only if the vikings keep cousins!!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused: :pouty: :pouty:
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🏈 this'll make Glenn shoot tears everywhere. ;)
https://kttc.com/2020/03/12/nfl-teams-curtailing-or-stopping-scouting-operations/
only when the vikings keep cousins!!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused: :pouty: :pouty:
Had to...............................................fix it for ya. :evil: ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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🏈 this'll make Glenn shoot tears everywhere. ;)
https://kttc.com/2020/03/12/nfl-teams-curtailing-or-stopping-scouting-operations/
only when the vikings keep cousins!!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused: :pouty: :pouty:
Had to...............................................fix it for ya. :evil: ;) :laugh: :laugh:
ain't it past your bedtime. :pouty: :tut: :rotflmao:
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:sleazy: :nerd: :nerd:
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Vikes release Rhodes and Joseph!
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Vikes release Rhodes and Joseph!
you sure you got that right??? :scratch: shouldn't it say Rhodes and Cousins. :confused: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Vikes release Rhodes and Joseph!
you sure you got that right??? :scratch: shouldn't it say Rhodes and Cousins. :confused: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:tut: TE Morgan too, they freed up nearly $19 mil in cap space with Rhodes & Joseph being released. Going to cost 'em a little over $7 mil in dead money though. Knew Rhodes was gone but they were a little unsure of Joseph, last I heard.
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So what does the dead cap space really mean? We save that money but doesn't raise what we can spend?
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It's money that they spend on players who are no longer on the team but still counts against the salary cap. Mostly guaranteed money like the $28 mil they'd have to pay Cousins this season to not be on the team. :evil: :nerd: :nerd: There's some buy out clauses in some of the contracts too but I'm not sure :scratch: how that counts against the cap.
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So this is appx. Rhodes is due 12 mil and that means 8 mil for us in cap space and there is 4 mil in dead cap space. Maybe it was Joseph but just as an example. What does that imply?
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:nerd:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1: There is fun in the offseason!
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It begins. Rhodes and Linval Joseph have been released. Clearing cap space. Glad Rhodes is gone but there is a chance that Joseph come's back if they agree to a salery change. good luck.
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Good ridden to Rhodes!!
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I agree on Rhodes, he was due $12.9 next year & that's way too much for a CB who ranked very near the bottom of the league. They still owe him $4.8 so they save a shade over $8 mil on the cap. The #'s I found on Joseph were $10.5/$2.4 mil & I agree with RH that they could easily bring him back as he played pretty well again last season but only if he's willin to sign for less.
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This will make Glenn happy. Vikings reach deal for a two year extention with Cousings. This will give the Vikings more cap space. good luck.
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This will make Glenn happy. Vikings reach deal for a two year extention with Cousings. This will give the Vikings more cap space. good luck.
:taz: training-087 :banghead: :banghead: i just read that!!!!!! awe gawd.......... :doah: :puke: :surrender: :surrender: :surrender:
there goes any chance the vikings go to the super bowl!!!!!!!!!!!! :shocked: :surrender: :surrender: :censored:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Not much we can do about it. Just watch and cross our fingers. SO now maybe we will get a young QB. This is Zim and Spielmans last ditch effort.
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This could be a smoke screen so SF gives us a better draft pic for him.
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Maybe get a young QB in the draft to work under Cousins for a couple of years? good luck.
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The deal...
"According to NFL Media's Ian Rapoport, it's a two-year extension worth $66 million. Coupled with the final year of his deal in 2020, the total value is $96 million over three years, including $61 million guaranteed."
"Cousins' new deal will add $10 million to Minnesota's cap space, according to Tom Pelissero."
So doing some math...
Kurt originally signed a unprecedented $84 million, fully guaranteed contract. He was scheduled to make $29.5 million guaranteed in 2020.
The new deal is worth $96 million ($29.5 for 2020 + $66 for the extension), but now only $61 million is guaranteed over the next 3 year - not the full $96 million.
And assuming $29.5M of the $61M is still guaranteed for 2020, that means that only $31.5 million of the $66M extension is guaranteed.
What does all of this mean? I think it means it will be easier to get rid of Cousins in the last year of his extended deal if things don't work out.
And with the salary cap going up with 17 games, $30 million per year will likely be the going rate for a slightly-above-average QB.
Plus, if the team gets $10 million in salary cap relief this year, it seems like a pretty team friendly deal to me. With no one better on the horizon to replace Kirk, this deal makes sense to me.
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it looks like there going to be putting the franchise tag on Harris..........and signed Ham to a 3 year extension!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
now iffin they could get rid of the "CHOKE".!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Now if we can trade Diggs for an above average offensive lineman, invest a first round draft choice in another offensive lineman, I'm starting to like our chances again.
Yeah, I know there are some open roster spots on the defense, but now its time for the Vikes to fill some of them with non-first-rounders and let Zimm coach 'em up.
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Well Diggs got sent to Buffalo for 3 draft picks this year and 1 next year.
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Well Diggs got sent to Buffalo for 3 draft picks this year and 1 next year.
Buffalo Bills to acquire Stefon Diggs in trade with Minnesota Vikings, per report
:coffee: ....CAN YOU DIG IT!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/buffalo-bills-to-acquire-stefon-diggs-in-trade-with-minnesota-vikings-per-report/ar-BB11hIhu?ocid=hplocalnews
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Oh well. Have fun in Buffalo with 6' of snow every year.
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Well Diggs got sent to Buffalo for 3 draft picks this year and 1 next year.
One of those picks is the Bill's 1st round pick though. WR is 1 of the deepest spots in this years draft & I'm betting they're talkin to at least a couple of 'em already.
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With Rhodes already gone :happy1: along with Waynes & Alexander both FA's they are in need of some depth in the defensive backfield too. McShay has 'em takin a DB in the 1st round. :scratch: Kind of hopin they sign a FA too.
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Well Buffalo had the 22 nd pick and we have the 25th I think so two first round picks are always nice. The other extra picks will be great also. I think this is a good move for the team. Diggs seemed moody and not happy last year. He wanted more play time so now he has it. Harris I think will be traded also even though he was named protected player. That's another rumer. Has to do with cap space and a lot of teams have interest in him. Maybe even more draft picks to come. good luck.
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Oh well. Have fun in Buffalo with 6' of snow every year.
Spielman Strikes Again!
Bills get Diggs and Vikings seventh-round draft pick in 2020.
Vikes get the Bills first-round, fifth-round and sixth-round picks in 2020 and a fourth-round pick in 2021.
I'd say the Vikes got the long end of the stick in this deal.
How long do you think it will take before Diggs becomes a frustrated malcontent in Buffalo? We should start a pool.
This move is almost Bellichekian! I think this is why the Vikes keep Spielman. He also maximized the value trading Percy Harvin and Sydney Rice.
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I would think noone is enjoying this and laughing harder than Case Keenum. We have spent over 100 million dollars on a QB that Zim and Rick thought was going to light it up here. Just cuz Zim didn't like Case! Trying to do better than the year Case was here. Ain't gonna happen for many years the way I see it. Now we are in complete rebuilding mode. Not much going to happen here until we get a real QB and the team gets back to the attitude and chemistry we had 3 years ago. We aren't even close to that now. As we saw, players are confused about what their assignments even are, especially on the D. Coaches have come and gone to no avail. What is the common denominator? Zim and Rick.
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Oh well. Have fun in Buffalo with 6' of snow every year.
Spielman Strikes Again!
Bills get Diggs and Vikings seventh-round draft pick in 2020.
Vikes get the Bills first-round, fifth-round and sixth-round picks in 2020 and a fourth-round pick in 2021.
I'd say the Vikes got the long end of the stick in this deal.
How long do you think it will take before Diggs becomes a frustrated malcontent in Buffalo? We should start a pool.
This move is almost Bellichekian! I think this is why the Vikes keep Spielman. He also maximized the value trading Percy Harvin and Sydney Rice.
Pretty good for a guy you drafted in the 5th round. I seen somethin where Weatherly signed with the Panthers too. Too bad, I thought he was starting to play good for us. :pouty:
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Diggs is a really good receiver, but I'll bet he's a real pain in the neck. Teammates will always say the right thing. He just wants to win. He cares too much. Bla. Bla. Bla. But I'll bet his petulance wears on folks.
I heard that Buffalo is also a team that is trying to establish the run first to open the passing game. And I can't say that Josh Allen is any better than Capt. Kirk.
He might have jumped out of the fry pan into the fire.
You want outta Minne, Diggsie? Good luck.
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I heard Weatherly was the Vikings union rep too?? :scratch:
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Yeah.................so? ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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Diggs is a really good receiver, but I'll bet he's a real pain in the neck. Teammates will always say the right thing. He just wants to win. He cares too much. Bla. Bla. Bla. But I'll bet his petulance wears on folks.
I heard that Buffalo is also a team that is trying to establish the run first to open the passing game. And I can't say that Josh Allen is any better than Capt. Kirk.
He might have jumped out of the fry pan into the fire.
You want outta Minne, Diggsie? Good luck.
Can't disagree Steve-O. The grass is always greener, until you get there and find out it isn't.
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Just heard Traes Waynes went to Bengals. No details. They gave him 14 mil a year I think is what they said. So huge rebuilding project.
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I still question our paying Barr 15 mil this year and 20 mil next year.
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I still question our paying Barr 15 mil this year and 20 mil next year.
That's about what most of those LB/DE who can rush the passer are gettin these days. :crazy:
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personally i think Barr is worth it. kinda suxs to see Waynes go though.......... and Wewatherly, but.......dats life!!!!!!!
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Alexander's a FA also & could be leavin as well. That leaves only Hughes & Hill with any experience at CB. Good thing Harris & Smith are good behind 'em. That really puts a cramp on Zim's defense when you don't have a corner that can play man coverage so the safeties, Smith in particular, are forced to play deep almost all the time. :pouty: I'd be real surprised if they don't sign a FA DB because of that.
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And we don't even know if Hughes will pan out yet.
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I thought he looked good most of the time last season until he started getting hurt.
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Sure hope he gets healthy.
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Hill is 6' 2" & ~ 200 lbs like Waynes is so they both matched up better with the 6-3 210-220 WR's in the league these days. Where as both Alexander & Hughes are quite a bit smaller,~ 5-10/180-190, & givin up a lot in size.
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Zim sure likes Hill to keep him around so hope he does great! I think he is a scrapper.
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well Joseph is on his way to da Chargers!!!!!!!!! :doah: :doah: he was a beast in the middle of that D-line!!!!!
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Bummer!
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Ya hoped that we would make a deal with him.
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$17 mil/2 years, I just read. More than we were willin to go & probably only playin 1st & 2nd downs usually.
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So this Foles thing with Chicago. I kind of like him and when we got Cousins he was a possibility. Don't like him in a Bears uniform.
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looks like were getting ravens DT mixheal pierce
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Looks like it's gonna be $27 mil for 3 years with $18 mil guaranteed which is really close to what Joseph was due this season. :cool: Pierce is 4 years younger though. I see where they received an extra 3 extra picks for the FA players they lost to begin last season, 1 of which is a 3rd rounder. So 10 picks overall. :happy1:
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Plus the extra pics from the Diggs trade. I wonder if Spielman will move up this year to grab someone with all that draft capital?
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Plus the extra pics from the Diggs trade. I wonder if Spielman will move up this year to grab someone with all that draft capital?
Not so sure if they'll move up or not :scratch: as I read an article where Spielman really likes those late round picks & has had real good results with 'em. They had 6 picks last year that were 6th round or later & 5 of them made the team. The 6th made the practice squad. :happy1: I believe they said that they have five 7th round picks this year & 11 or 12 picks total, depending on who you listen to. I see they now have Alexander signing a 1 year deal with the Bengals so we're really thin in the secondary now. :doah: The OL can use help too, like always, but I read that Reiff could be a cap casualty as well.
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I guess I was thinking about that year when Spielman moved up to snag three players in the the first round.
The advantage to doing that, is the team has the 5th year option on the rookie contract. So if they are good, you get to keep em for an extra year.
Turns out the year I was thinking of was back in 2013 when they drafted Sharrif Floyd, Xavier Rhodes, and Cordarrelle Patterson.
Now that I look at the names, with the departure of Rhodes, the players are all ancient history. Floyd (injury?) and Patterson (???) never reached their full, but I do remember everyone universally praising Spielman for snagging three starters in the first round.
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Looks like Everson Griffen is leaving the Vikings for sure. His agent said talks have broken off and Griffen is heading to the Browns or Dallas who have interest in him. Sad to see this guy go but that's the NFL. good luck.
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Man we are looking at a new team when this all settles. More and more I hear people talk about trading Smith cuz he is getting old and worth a lot. Hate to see that happen.
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I haven't heard that yet but anything is possible in the NFL. Hate to see that happen. I think that won't happen though. good luck.
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Sendejo gone to the Browns. I really liked him. Good tough football player.
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boy sounds like wer getting an entire new team in purple next year
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I'm sure a lot of these moves are just because they have no cap space. I'm of the belief that they were hopin to resign some of them, Joseph & Griffen to name a couple, but just couldn't make the #'s work. Other teams showed more interest so they're gone. :pouty:
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I see they just signed a FA WR from the Titans. :happy1: :cool: Tajae Sharpe(25) signed a 1 year deal, he had just 25 catches for 399 yds last season, his 4th with Tenn. He got in 15 games but only started 6 last season.
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I see they just signed a FA WR from the Titans. :happy1: :cool: Tajae Sharpe(25) signed a 1 year deal, he had just 25 catches for 399 yds last season, his 4th with Tenn. He got in 15 games but only started 6 last season.
NOW...…….iffin we only had a QB!!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty: :pouty:
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I see they just signed a FA WR from the Titans. :happy1: :cool: Tajae Sharpe(25) signed a 1 year deal, he had just 25 catches for 399 yds last season, his 4th with Tenn. He got in 15 games but only started 6 last season.
NOW...…….iffin we only had a QB!!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty: :pouty:
:scratch: Only 1 left out there now is the 1 that left the team that signed Brady. Bet you'd like him :doah: , even if he threw 40 INT's next year. :crazy: :doofus: :pouty: :pouty:
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Kiper now has 'em takin a Baylor WR, Mims, & Iowa DL Epenesa in the 1st round.
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I see they just signed a FA WR from the Titans. :happy1: :cool: Tajae Sharpe(25) signed a 1 year deal, he had just 25 catches for 399 yds last season, his 4th with Tenn. He got in 15 games but only started 6 last season.
NOW...…….iffin we only had a QB!!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty: :pouty:
:shocked: Don't worry, bud, you still have 3 more years to join his fan club. :sleazy: ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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Kiper now has 'em takin a Baylor WR, Mims, & Iowa DL Epenesa in the 1st round.
If we just signed a WR from the Titans, I can't see us drafting another one in the 1st round, when - apparently - WR position is deep in this draft.
This is Zimm, remember? He's goona want another corner back. I still don't think we have enough offensive linemen and the defensive line still needs help. All that being said, we'll probably draft a hybrid linebacker.
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His career stats: 47 games played, 92 catches for 1167 yds in 4 years. That doesn't really sound like a guy who's going to replace Diggs to me. :scratch: I do agree on needing help at CB too but their record with drafting those that high isn't very good. :tut: :pouty:
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Yes, Diggs is hard to replace, buy you can't give big contracts to your QB, TE, RB, some O-Line guys AND pay two receivers high end contracts - especially since Zimm/Kubiak want to run the ball. Something has to give. And the guy with the biggest mouth and the biggest paycheck is usually the first to go.
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I think the Diggs trade was a good 1 but they still need a WR that can stretch the D IMO. If not they'll be facing a lot 8-9 man fronts on the early downs & facing a lot of 3rd & longs with Thielen gettin double teamed most of the time. Tough to make a livin doin that in the NFL. Rookie deals aren't usually that expensive either.
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Granted their recent historyof drafting WR's in the 1st round is the best either. Just look at Harvin, Patterson, & Treadwell but I don't think they have any choice if they are going to score at least 20 a game. Which with the # of defensive FA's that have left they will have to do to win IMO. :scratch:
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First round wide receiver draft picks...
1965 Jack Snow (*who?*)
1967 Gene Washington (*win*)
1998 Randy Moss (*big win*)
2005 Troy Williamson (*big bust*)
2009 Percy Harvin (*win - head case, but he played good for us and we traded him at the height of his value*)
2013 Cordarrelle Patterson (*meh - dynamic when he got the ball in space/kick returns, but was a bust as a receiver*)
2016 Laquon Treadwell (*bust*)
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My bet is that they will take a offensive lineman in the first round. Lots of receivers available this year but that's my guess [and hope]. good luck.
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First round wide receiver draft picks...
1965 Jack Snow (*who?*)
1967 Gene Washington (*win*)
1998 Randy Moss (*big win*)
2005 Troy Williamson (*big bust*)
2009 Percy Harvin (*win - head case, but he played good for us and we traded him at the height of his value*)
2013 Cordarrelle Patterson (*meh - dynamic when he got the ball in space/kick returns, but was a bust as a receiver*)
2016 Laquon Treadwell (*bust*)
I remember Jack Snow playing for the Rams. Drafted by the Vikings but traded to the Rams before he ever played for the Vikes. Not sure who/what they got in return. Had a decent career. Think he wound up ~ #30 all time on receiving yards. Considering he played fewer game seasons that's not all bad.
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I see where Rhodes signed a 1 year deal with the Colts, bet he didn't get anywhere near the $12.9 mil he was due if he stayed a Viking. Also heard that Goodell sent a memo to all 32 teams that the league is going ahead with plans for a 4/23 draft, so get ready. No fans or players will be allowed to attend. They will have to do it outside of team facilities that are all closed now & if teams criticize the league's decision they can be disciplined.
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I see where Rhodes signed a 1 year deal with the Colts, bet he didn't get anywhere near the $12.9 mil he was due if he stayed a Viking. Also heard that Goodell sent a memo to all 32 teams that the league is going ahead with plans for a 4/23 draft, so get ready. No fans or players will be allowed to attend. They will have to do it outside of team facilities that are all closed now & if teams criticize the league's decision they can be disciplined.
Great I was hoping they could think of a way to keep the draft going.
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yea but who does Goddell think he is threatening to fine and discipline teams or individuals that critize this!!!!! :confused: :confused: :doah:
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:kingscourt: Kind of what I thougt too but he speaks for the owners, they hired him & just gave him a big fat new deal. :bonk: :sad: :crazy:
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I see where Rhodes signed a 1 year deal with the Colts, bet he didn't get anywhere near the $12.9 mil he was due if he stayed a Viking.
Looks like Xavier will get around $5M for a one year deal. PLUS 'da ViQueens get to play 'da Colts 'dis year.
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Looking forward to seeing him against us. He will provide yardage fro us through his dumb penalty's. good luck.
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:kingscourt: Kind of what I thougt too but he speaks for the owners, they hired him & just gave him a big fat new deal. :bonk: :sad: :crazy:
doesn't give him the right to limit someones opinion. i'm convinced someone will mouth off...…..and any fine or discipline will be challenged....and rightfully so!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree but he has the final say in all that :bs: so. :scratch: Personally I think it looks kind of bad for the league to go about their business when none of the other sports are able to. :tut: :crazy: All about $$$$.
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As long as they are following safe and health quidelines it should be ok I would think. Kind of like a conference call type thing isn't it? Not sure.
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A couple more signings yday, they resigned backup OL Dozier, & RB Abdullah to 1 year deals. :happy1: :cool: Both had good seasons last year IMO.
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Dems Was Da Days Back Den :bow:
Enjoy :happy1:
***Click da watch on you tube feature :bonk:
The best play All Day had against all 32 teams. *Not* the longest against each team. Not all plays are running plays. These are meant to be Adrian's best plays, so I did my best to avoid ones where he goes untouched past a bunch of great blocks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJUAIwLBo50
***Click da watch on you tube feature :doah:
Was gunna post da Walter Paton highlites But dat would make Peterson's look like crap! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Thank you Lee. Man was that fun to watch. I was cheering and laughing the whole time. Threw me for a loop in the New Orleans clip. LL I think the Favre year was my favorite. I love to watch the You tube of that years games too. Thanks again.
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Just heard on KFAN that Tarvaris Jackson was killed in a car accident. So sad. He was a good guy too.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/report-longtime-nfl-qb-tarvaris-jackson-dies-in-car-crash-134849459.html
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Fran was on the KFAN and said he really likes Jalen Hurts. I have been watching highlights of him and an interview. Seems like a darn good kid and pretty durable it seems. Everyone says 2nd or 3rd round material. Heck I would take him with our first pick. Throws good and runs good.
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Fran was on the KFAN and said he really likes Jalen Hurts. I have been watching highlights of him and an interview. Seems like a darn good kid and pretty durable it seems. Everyone says 2nd or 3rd round material. Heck I would take him with our first pick. Throws good and runs good.
I loved watching him in college. His throwing is a bit suspect though I think.
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Viking/Packers on right now. Favre’s first game against the Packers on Monday night football in a Vikes uniform. Good stuff...
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I started watching that game on Utube last night. Will finish it today. Man that is fun football. I am watching every game from that year in order. The Pack game is game #4 of the season.
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Fran was on the KFAN and said he really likes Jalen Hurts. I have been watching highlights of him and an interview. Seems like a darn good kid and pretty durable it seems. Everyone says 2nd or 3rd round material. Heck I would take him with our first pick. Throws good and runs good.
I loved watching him in college. His throwing is a bit suspect though I think.
He threw for 3800 yds & completed 70% of his passes last year at Oklahoma, rushed for another 1300 yds. They were talking about where he'll go in the draft this am & Kiper is now sayin he'll be gone by the end of round 2. NE & Pittsburgh were mentioned as possible landing spots. With Cousin's new extension I'd be really surprised if the Vikes draft a QB & if they do it'll be late IMO.
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I think you are right Gunner. But it would be fun to see them change things up a little.
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Cook's been talkin to the Pioneer Press about Diggs gettin traded too. Kind of sounds like they were friends to me. :scratch:
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Thanks for the update. Since I've been sheltering-in-place I haven't been getting my sports radio fix during my commutes.
I guess this isn't surprising. "Skill" players are always worried about getting paid and getting touches and often times their mercurial attitudes often make them lightening rods for controversy and criticism.
But reading the article, is sounds like Cook gets it. He knows business is business. Yes, he is missing a friend, but I guess I take him at his word that he doesn't know specifically why Diggs wanted out.
In other topics related to star players wanting off teams when they might have been better off staying ...
I heard a Jim Hanneman Timberwolves interview over the weekend. He related a story where he had a chance to have an impromptu interview with Stephon Marbury. He says they had a great conversation and Stephon admitted regret for not sticking it out with the Wolves when he and Garnett were poised to be a force to be reckoned with in the West Division for years to come. :doah:
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I always thought Diggsy's frustrations were that he is running down the field the whole game and Quirk isn't throwing him the ball even when he is wide open. Can't deny he was open quite a few times when Quirk didn't throw to him. He relishes catching the ball when guys are on him. I see it partly Quirks fault that Diggsy left here.
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Zimmer had a big hand in getting Kubiak, Stefanski, & Cousins to think like that too IMO. :tut: Cousins lack of confidence in the O line's protection factored in there as well.. Sure Cousins could've done a lot better job of getting him the ball but Diggs getting in Zimm's doghouse fairly early in the season wasn't a good thing either. Josh Allen has a really strong arm & throws the deep ball very well, better than the touch passes in fact. I wouldn't be surprised to see Diggs have a big year in Buffalo.
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And so Josh Allen's career completion percentage of 56.3 is going to make Diggs the household name he wants to be?
Good luck.
Yes, it drives receivers bat-$#!t when quarterbacks miss them when they are running wide open, but I'll hazard a guess that it might have been Cousins' even-keel, unemotional, golly-gee-wizz leadership style that caused Diggsy so much frustration. After all, Diggs did just get paid here.
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If you listen to any of the WR's on TV now they'll all tell you they're open on every play too. :doah: That was the knock on Allen coming out college too, low %/no touch, & probably the main reason he fell to the Bills in the draft in the 1st place. I don't think anybody expected the Bills to have the season they did last year either. That being said I have to agree with you about Cousins leadership style drivin Diggs :crazy:.
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Thanks for the update. Since I've been sheltering-in-place I haven't been getting my sports radio fix during my commutes.
I guess this isn't surprising. "Skill" players are always worried about getting paid and getting touches and often times their mercurial attitudes often make them lightening rods for controversy and criticism.
But reading the article, is sounds like Cook gets it. He knows business is business. Yes, he is missing a friend, but I guess I take him at his word that he doesn't know specifically why Diggs wanted out.
In other topics related to star players wanting off teams when they might have been better off staying ...
I heard a Jim Hanneman Timberwolves interview over the weekend. He related a story where he had a chance to have an impromptu interview with Stephon Marbury. He says they had a great conversation and Stephon admitted regret for not sticking it out with the Wolves when he and Garnett were poised to be a force to be reckoned with in the West Division for years to come. :doah:
That was the one chance the T Wolves had at getting me as a fan. And it never happened. :pouty:
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I seen on Facebook that there are trade talks beween the Vikings and the Browns. Target, Odell Beckham Jr.. Says right now it's a 2nd and 5th round draft pick in next years draft. Great talent vs. another drama queen which he has both plenty of. If it's a drama queen I say no regardless of his talent, but I don't know that much about him as far as that, just what's reported. good luck.
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When I turned on KFAN they were talking about him. I wondered why. He sure is a good receiver. BUT like you I hope he doesn't act like a drama queen it he comes here.
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Hey, if the Browns trade him, that would be 3 different teams in 3 years.
Especially considering how much talent he has, that speaks of nothing but trouble.
And note how the price has gone down on him since the trade to the Browns last season.
"... sees the Browns acquire Beckham and defensive end Olivier Vernon in exchange for right guard Kevin Zeitler, safety Jabrill Peppers, Cleveland's 2019 first-round pick (No. 17 overall) and a 2019 third-round pick (No. 95 overall)."
And OBJ is even more mercurial than Diggsie.
Heck, I'd give 'em a 5th round pick just so we don't gotta take him.
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Great WR but a lot of headaches. :crazy: :pouty: Maybe :scratch: if they put it in his contract that in order to get his $ he has to behave. :doah: I doubt he'd sign a deal like that unless he wants out of Cleveland really bad, still................................ :confused:
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He wanted out of New York. And after he wants out of Cleveland, he'll want out of Minnesota. Just sayin
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Give them $1 for him like we did for Chris Carter back when he was a problem child. That woke him up. He straightened out when he got here knowing how low his price got.
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When I turned on KFAN they were talking about him. I wondered why. He sure is a good receiver. BUT like you I hope he doesn't act like a drama queen it he comes here.
the Vikings got rid of Diggs because of his behavior...….Vikings would be stupid to bring that head case here!!!!!!
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Can the Vikings even afford this guy. I heard his salary is around $16 million?? He would have to take a cut in pay. good luck.
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I agree Steve-o, he's just like AB & there's not much interest being shown in him either. They're both :crazy: :pouty: The way Zimmer is I'd be :shocked: if they sign him. :scratch: Spielman must have an OK of some sort though for it even to be getting discussed. :confused:
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Give them $1 for him like we did for Chris Carter back when he was a problem child. That woke him up. He straightened out when he got here knowing how low his price got.
That's one good way to deal with a problem child. Take away their allowance! :happy1:
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Now I see that that trade may not happen. Has to do with how much money he wants of course. good luck.
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Haven't heard a thing on the OBJ deal. Was a major talker yesterday.. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Looks like maybe OBJ's people may have started this.
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Hear it was false
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They had a clip on this morning of the Browns GM & he said that there was no truth too it & certainly wasn't started by anyone in their front office. So I believe LPS is spot on.
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Prolly just sports talking heads trying to find something to talk about all day.
Tomorrow it will be something else.
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Ya Steve, I'm getting sick of all of the draft predictions every day. They are bored. Some people really are missing sports for sure. I'll just go out and fish more. But I do like it when there is actual news from the Vikings. Very interested in the 12 draft picks with two first round picks. good luck.
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I usually turn on KFAN or SKOR North when I am on the computer or doing other projects. It is usually fun too. BUT now it is getting over the top wasted talk. That has to really be hard for them to sit for their whole show and talk about the same ol things.
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Before all this crap hit the fan a small group of us used to gather at the office and play the initals game on Friday mornings. Looking forward to getting the chance to do that again. :happy1:
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They (sports talk show hosts) throw more crap against the wall then internet trollers. Which, if you think about it is really saying something.
I couldn't care less what the Vikings do. When and if a season rolls around I guess we will see who they lost and who they got.
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So isn't the NFL draft this week?? What day??
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Starts Thursday, looked at Kiper's latest mock draft today & he had 'em takin a WR from Ariz St 1st, a CB from Utah 2nd. It also had the 1st OL to go being the Hawkeyes Jr tackle Tristan Wirfs
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Looking forward to it. Will be at home anyways. I remember the first time I sat and listened to the Draft. I stayed awake all night and it is slow. A pick every 15 minutes I think. The Vikes were at the end of the draft that night. I hung in there. Well it comes to the Vikes pick which was late 20's or early 30's and here they traded their draft pick so no pick that night. LOLOLOL BUT I will be watching. Sting song!!
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what do ya mean home anyways??? yer retired ya rascal!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Looking forward to it. Will be at home anyways. I remember the first time I sat and listened to the Draft. I stayed awake all night and it is slow. A pick every 15 minutes I think. The Vikes were at the end of the draft that night. I hung in there. Well it comes to the Vikes pick which was late 20's or early 30's and here they traded their draft pick so no pick that night. LOLOLOL BUT I will be watching. Sting song!!
Yes, I remember that draft. That sucked SOOOOO much.
I think it was 2017. Our top three picks that year were Dalvin Cook (2nd rnd), Pat Elflein (3rd rnd), and Jaleel Johnson (4th round).
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I think that is the one S-O. Waited all night. I will stay up till the end this year too. Something to look forward to in this time of lack of things to look forward to.
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Had to look it up to refresh my memory.
We started out with the 14th pick and Spielman kept trading down and then finally out of the 1st round. It was really frustrating, but Spielman knows what he is doing.
In picks 1-13 that year, 7 of them became pro bowlers: Miles Garret, Mitch Trubisky, Jamal Adams, Christian McCaffery, Patcrick Mahomes, Marshon Lattimore, and Deshaun Watson - all off the board before the Vikings would have picked at 14.
We eventually traded down to the 41st pick (in the 2nd round) and took Calvin Cook. Between picks 14 and 41, over the span of 27 players, only 5 of them made the pro bowl - and we got one of them.
Here are the players we missed out on because we traded down: Derek Barnett, Malik Hooker, Marlon Humphrey, Jonathan Allen, Adoree' Jackson, O. J. Howard, Garett Bolles, Jarrad Davis, Charles Harris, Evan Engram, Gareon Conley, Jabrill Peppers, Takkarist McKinley, Tre'Davious White, Taco Charlton, David Njoku, T. J. Watt, Reuben Foster, Ryan Ramczyk, Kevin King, Cam Robinson, Malik McDowell, Budda Baker, Zay Jones, Forrest Lamp, Marcus Maye, Curtis Samuel, and finally Dalvin Cook.
I'm sure there are some solid football players in that list, and I don't follow the league like a lot of fantasy wonks, but as a casual fan, I don't see any household names on that list that I think we should have had instead of Dalvin Cook.
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I agree SO. I don't see anyone there that I recognize. I too think Spielman is pretty good at what he does. I do see an OL and QB lull that would be nice to address though. BUT should be a fun draft. We have a lot of ammo to deal with. :happy1: :happy1: And yes that trading down is what kept me watching now that you mentioned it. LOL
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Just remember, for all the accolades Spielman & Zimmer get they have won nothing. They do their jobs and for the most part the players are good citizens if that counts for anything.
Will they be better than the Packers & Bears in 2020? Time will tell.
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wen is the draft
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Thursday night.
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Thursday night.
dutchy, did I warn you about boar?? If not you've been warned. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I agree SO. I don't see anyone there that I recognize. I too think Spielman is pretty good at what he does. I do see an OL and QB lull that would be nice to address though. BUT should be a fun draft. We have a lot of ammo to deal with. :happy1: :happy1: And yes that trading down is what kept me watching now that you mentioned it. LOL
you guys don't recognize T. J. Watt??? He plays for the Steelers and is the brother of JJ
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The draft is Thursday night, Fri afternoon, and Saturday Boar.
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ok cool, nithin in the news but this disiese crap.. yu know the one...Glenneriea, it effects the bowels with excessive gas, neasea, and projectile bowel movments..
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ok cool, nithin in the news but this disiese crap.. yu know the one...Glenneriea, it effects the bowels with excessive gas, neasea, and projectile bowel movments..
:shocked: :shocked: :mad1: :confused: :taz: :taz: :Fish: :taz:
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ok cool, nithin in the news but this disiese crap.. yu know the one...Glenneriea, it effects the bowels with excessive gas, neasea, and projectile bowel movments..
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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ok cool, nithin in the news but this disiese crap.. yu know the one...Glenneriea, it effects the bowels with excessive gas, neasea, and projectile bowel movments..
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
:tut: :tut: :nerd:
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hey Glenn ya to admit it was darn funny!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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hey Glenn ya to admit it was darn funny!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
:tut: :tut: :tut: no it wasn't!!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty:
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Draft hours: Thursday, Round 1, 7 pm Friday, Rounds 2 & 3, 6 pm Saturday, Rounds 4-7, 11 am. Looks to be on CBS, ESPN, and NFL Network.
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I'll be watching. Hope they get a good OL player in the first round and a good future QB since they have two first round picks. good luck.
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Draft hours: Thursday, Round 1, 7 pm Friday, Rounds 2 & 3, 6 pm Saturday, Rounds 4-7, 11 am. Looks to be on CBS, ESPN, and NFL Network.
Oh goody! Real sports, sorta kinda. :rotflmao:
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I too think it would be so much fun to draft a QB and let Kubiak work with him and get him ready.
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The "experts" are still sayin a WR & CB with the 1st 2 picks, then maybe an OL & a DT, guess :scratch: we'll see soon.
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Really like the last minute trade with SF. :happybounce: SF moved up 6 spots to get their guy & the Vikes got their next to last 1st round pick & 2 more. Many were surprised to see Jefferson, WR/LSU, still there at #22, & the CB from TCU they got is thought highly of as well. :cool: I expect them to go for some help on the OL & a DT that can eventually take some of Joseph's minutes in today's rounds.
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Yep, Spielman moving down is a classic move. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't use those two new picks to move back up to get the next guy they want if they are fearful he might go before they can take 'em.
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I fell asleep and didn't get to see much of the draft. What two draft picks did the Vikings get for moving down? thanks. good luck.
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The picks they got are in the 140 range. I saw the first pick but when they traded down I went to bed. It was 8 minutes between picks last night. I think it is 5 minutes tonight so will go faster. Hope we get those linemen. Funny that GB took a QB with their first pick. I bet Erin is having a hissy fit. LLL I thought they did a great job with the draft. Didn't bother me a bit that people weren't there. I was surprised that so many of the guys drafted just sat on the couch with no expressions on their faces. Glad we didn't get any of them if they think they are too cool to show any emotions.
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Hope we find some young QB sleeper somewhere in the draft. good luck.
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Yup Barry, Twitter was crackling this a.m. with news of the Green Bush quarterback pick. I saw the one guy gave the pick a grade of D. Lots of people laughing about it and scratching their heads. Also some predictions of Erin coming here in a couple years. :scratch: Winfield Jr. is still out there. Thought maybe the Vikes would grab him but the CB they got is similar in size & speed with a slightly better vertical.
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I was hoping we could have enticed him to come here when McCarthy left GB. I would like him much better if he was our QB. :happy1:
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I fell asleep and didn't get to see much of the draft. What two draft picks did the Vikings get for moving down? thanks. good luck.
#'s 117 & 176
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I was hoping we could have enticed him to come here when McCarthy left GB. I would like him much better if he was our QB. :happy1:
Naw. It was OK for me when Brett came. He was a good ol' boy who was having the time of his life to close out his career. He was fun to watch and he has his best season ever with us. I'm less optimistic about Rodgers.
Rodgers is a prima donna pain in the arse whose skills are declining and Green Bay is hedging their bet that sooner or later he is going to start missing a significant number of games. I would not give them a D for drafting "the next best QB available" - especially if they don't have a good backup.
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I heard Erin's real last name is PITA. ;) ;D I seen it mentioned more than once, he doesn't go home to see his family anymore 'cause he can't even get along with them. :crazy:
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I go to bed early because I get up early so I hope to stay awake tonight to watch more of the draft than I did last night. good luck.
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Winfield Jr. to the Bucs. Take note Lee. This just in: Chicago Bears have just traded their first two picks for cash to re-sign Jay Cutler! It's on Twitter so it's gotta be true just like Erin Rodgers being traded to the Pats! :shocked:
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Winfield Jr. to the Bucs. Take note Lee. This just in: Chicago Bears have just traded their first two picks for cash to re-sign Jay Cutler! It's on Twitter so it's gotta be true just like Erin Rodgers being traded to the Pats! :shocked:
Hey me and Mike will believe it. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: That OL guy we got last night looks like the real deal to me. Glad we got him. I have to see who we got with the other picks cuz I went to be after the first one.
Ezra Cleveland is his name. 6'6" and 311 lbs. He may come help me cut firewood. I am so glad we got him instead of trading for ol man Williams. I guess Williams didn't want to come to the Vikes I just read. Probably knew we didn't have much money.
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They got another DB from Mississippi St with their next pick & traded their last pick of round 3 to NO. I seen the 2nd pick yday but not the last 'til this AM.
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And at #89 we got Cameron Dantzler CB from Miss State. Today we have 117, 130 and 132 for picks to start with barring any trades.
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Just seen where NO traded their last 3 picks to the Vikings yday to move up & take a TE from Dayton at the end of round 3. We now have 13 picks left for today. :cool:
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Wikipedia had a great list of the picks.
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I heard Erin's real last name is PITA. ;) ;D I seen it mentioned more than once, he doesn't go home to see his family anymore 'cause he can't even get along with them. :crazy:
I see there is a Colin Cowher story about how people in Green Bay not loving Erin neither... Their QB draft pick may be playing sooner than we think.
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I see where Mattison, the RB we got from Boise St last season, is buddies with Cleveland & he was :happybounce: we took him. Cleveland's 1st phone call was to Mattison in fact & he was hopin to go to the Vikings. :happy1: :cool:
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That is great! I think he is a great pick and he was happy to be picked by the Vikings. Not like some of those thugs that just sat with a scowl on their faces.
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That is great! I think he is a great pick and he was happy to be picked by the Vikings. Not like some of those thugs that just sat with a scowl on their faces.
Have to remember there was lots of time lapse due to internet speeds. Also the TV some were watching likely had the info quicker then the internet. It doesn't matter what emotion they show, if they were picked in the first round they are instant millionaires......they are happy.
We shouldn't really care what the Packers do, Erin & Dani will supply more intrigue then the team will.
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ok so some one tell me how do they get the team hat that pickes them, if they dont already know?
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NFL will send them a handful of hats, they pretty much have it narrowed down who will draft them.
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I saw one guy was going to put his hat on but his mother took it from him and a few minutes later he put it on. Thinking mama got him the right hat or else put the right velcro team sticker on the hat.
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looks like we got a beast of a rookie QB in nate stanley. 6'4" 235.
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Yup, he's a big guy! :scratch: Know where he played, Boar? ;) I O W A! :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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NFL will send them a handful of hats, they pretty much have it narrowed down who will draft them.
In a normal year the teams will fly in the early round picks that they're interested in to have them do a workout & a interview. None of that this year though except the interview was done by computer.
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I am really pleased with our picks. I will have to read up on the QB.
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So was he the starting Qb for Iowa?
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See how you like this. I am all in on this kid.
https://youtu.be/OgJC3tnt1Yk
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So was he the starting Qb for Iowa?
He'd a bad game or 2 every year but would hang in there 'til they figured out a way to win. Rarely was he the reason they lost & tough kid too. Didn't miss much action in his 3 years of starting. :cool:
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I am really pleased with our picks. I will have to read up on the QB.
Checked their draft a little this morning & only the 2 DL they took in the 4th round got below average marks(C-) by whoever wrote that article. :rolleyes:
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he seemed great there and can be coached up, has an arm, get a good OL line and he should be golden
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he seemed great there and can be coached up, has an arm, get a good OL line and he should be golden
One thing about playing QB at Iowa, you have 1 of the best O lines in the country in front of you every year. :cool: That's kind of Ferentz's specialty & was even when he coached in the NFL with Belichick early in his career. They like the big guys who were good wrestlers in HS 'cause they understand leverage & have good footwork.
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I am really pleased with our picks. I will have to read up on the QB.
Checked their draft a little this morning & only the 2 DL they took in the 4th round got below average marks(C-) by whoever wrote that article. :rolleyes:
Yep, now its time to coach up up. Zim and his staff have had great success with the D-Line.
And it will be interesting to see who emerges from all of those pics in the secondary. Can you imagine what it is going to be like in training camp with all those new CBs competing for playing time? There is going to be some hard work happening.
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At least our draft picks appear to be bright
https://www.startribune.com/vikings-are-best-and-packers-are-worst-when-it-comes-to-nfl-draft-grades/569977772/
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just read an article on MSN about the Vikings signing Percy Harvin. he is only 31, although Speilman says they have no intentions of doing so, BUT he also said they werent gonna trade diggs either??????
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just read an article on MSN about the Vikings signing Percy Harvin. he is only 31, although Speilman says they have no intentions of doing so, BUT he also said they werent gonna trade diggs either??????
“I thought I was done, but that itch came back. I’ve been training with a former Olympian. My body is feeling good. Mentally I’m better. :scratch: My family is good. The timing is right," Harvin said.
That seems to be a low bar to have to clear. :bonk:
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Too old, too slow, not mentally in shape neither. I can't see him keeping up. Although they don't test for weed in the NFL anymore so that is good for him. I think one of youse guys mentioned that before. BUT who knows? Would be fun to watch.
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Guess who the pundits say the Vikings should sign... :bonk: :bonk: :bonk:
Former NFL spokesman Joe Lockhart: Vikings should sign ... (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/30/former-nfl-spokesman-joe-lockhart-vikings-should-sign-colin-kaepernick/) :doah:
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Ya isn't that the funniest thing you ever heard. There would be lots of seats available if they did that. I would get a lot done on Sundays then too. :rotflmao: :happy1: That seems to be the thing for the sports guys to talk about now. It is not the Vikes responsibility to make any moves to compensate for what is going on. IMO
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Yea that's why he's a FORMER NFL spokesman.
No way Zimmer brings him here. :tut: :tut: :tut:
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Kaepernick took a knee.
The NFL blackballed him.
Kaepernick sued.
The NFL paid.
The NFL can now legally blackball him without fear of another lawsuit.
The NFL would fit Zimmer with a pair of concrete boots and drop him in Minnetonka if he signed him.
Like mentioned without sports to cover these guys are making stuff up and throwing it against the wall.
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Yep. I would get a lot done to on Sundays if the did that. No way I would watch them. I would actually cheer for the packers then. :crazy:
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:sorry: But! as an outsider lookin in :scratch: Why on earth :confused: would ya cheer fur da Packers when ya kin cheer fur.........
:cheerleader:
:banghead:
"DA BEARS" :blues brothers: :scratch:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1:
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:sorry: But! as an outsider lookin in :scratch: Why on earth :confused: would ya cheer fur da Packers when ya kin cheer fur.........
:cheerleader:
:banghead:
"DA BEARS" :blues brothers: :scratch:
I would only cheer for da pack when dey played da Vikes. I would cheer for da bears too if dey signed kaperscopy.
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Bears' joint practices with Broncos no longer happening
:coffee: and more........
Alyssa Barbieri 1 hr ago
:doah: ..
As training camp gets closer, the NFL is making plans to ensure that these activities can continue amid the coronavirus pandemic.
:confused: ......
After sending a memo to NFL teams that summer training camps must be conducted at their team facilities, the league also informed teams that they will not be allowed to hold joint practices with other teams this summer.
And the NFL just sent a memo to teams informing them that they also will not be allowed :tut: to hold joint practices with other teams this summer either, per source. It had developed into a popular practice in recent years.
The Bears had planned on holding joint practices with the Denver Broncos in advance of their second preseason game, something they’ve done in the past. Given former Bears defensive coordinator Vic Fangio is Denver’s head coach, it only made sense to continue the tradition with the two teams facing off in the preseason.
Obviously, with this new memo, those joint practices won’t be happening. The NFL wants to ensure a safe environment for players, coaches and staff.
Chicago will travel to Denver to play the Broncos on Saturday, Aug. 22 in their second preseason contest.
Unlike the previous two preseasons, this one will mean a lot more for the Bears. The quarterback competition between Mitchell Trubisky and Nick Foles will begin in training camp and carry into preseason, where on-field action will help determine the Bears’ Week 1 starter against the Detroit Lions.
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The quarterback competition between Mitchell Trubisky and Nick Foles will begin in training camp and carry into preseason...
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Good Luck to Lee and Da Bears :blues brothers:
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I would bet a dollar on Foles. If I win I will send it to Glenn so he can shop at Menards... :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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x2! :happy1:
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I just read that the looters stole the trophys from the Vikings trophy case.......
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What a bunch of worthless people. :angry2: And Walz thinks that greater MN. is willing to pay to rebuild Minneapolis. Even the people in Roseau he says. Boy is he mistaken. :angry2:
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JB let me talk you off the ledge here. I am so sorry but it was a joke I saw. THE VIKINGS HAVE NO TROPHY'S! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: The trophy case has always been empty so to speak.
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Oh. Just call me a sucker. :rotflmao: Fell right into it. :crazy:
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So sorry and that wasn't what I was trying to do. LOL
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No worries. I was just gullible this morning. ;) :rotflmao:
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Oh. Just call me a sucker. :rotflmao: Fell right into it. :crazy:
we all do at one time or another!!!! :rotflmao: :happy1:
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I would bet a dollar on Foles. If I win I will send it to Glenn so he can shop at Menards... :rotflmao:
:pouty: :pouty: so I leave for a few days and I STILL get crap!!!!!! :banghead: :confused: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I would bet a dollar on Foles. If I win I will send it to Glenn so he can shop at Menards... :rotflmao:
:pouty: :pouty: so I leave for a few days and I STILL get crap!!!!!! :banghead: :confused: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I see Cook wants a new deal or he'll holdout even though he has 1 year/1.3 mil left on his rookie deal. :tut: :pouty:
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Ya I saw that too Gunner. I really like the guy too. BUT what is he really worth? Maybe a lot maybe not. They said Mattison avg about 4.6 per carry last year. That is pretty darn good too.
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it was only a matter of time before that happened.
thing with Cook he is so good catching passes out of the backfield, rated one of the most explosive backs in the league.
I say pay him...with incentives!!!!!!! :happy1:
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I don't know but assume he wants $10 million or more per year? Lets assume he gets 10. A really,really good running back is worth what......2 wins a year in this passing era? So, the question becomes is going from 8-8 to 10-6 worth 5 mil a game?
Not to me, but then I'm just a working still and it all sounds like monopoly money to me anyway.
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I heard he wants top 4 RB type money which is all $13 mil/per or more. They have NO cap space left because of Cousin's new deal so that means a lot of other good players will not get signed. The 1st to go for us is usually O lineman & D lineman. :tut: :pouty: Can't blame the guy for wantin to get paid as that position usually has a short shelf life but all I can say is GOOD LUCK! A lot of the big money deals for RB's have not worked out very well in recent years for the team that did them.
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I hope he doesn't let his agent get him too worked up about it.
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This holding out whilst still under contract is BS too. Huge distraction to the team and makes your commitment to the team questionable if you ask me.
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This holding out whilst still under contract is BS too. Huge distraction to the team and makes your commitment to the team questionable if you ask me.
totally agree. Been saying that for years. :happy1: :happy1:
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I agree too. You signed a contract. Honor it!!
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If professional athletes get paid in "Monopoly Money" terms, football contracts are written on Monopoly Paper.
Its all a game.
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don't ask them to give you their word either...
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Yeah, owners, GMs, and players...
It's just business and both sides get away with as much as the NFL parameters will allow.
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AND it is all unbelievable portions of money. Even the lowest paid are very well compensated.
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Minimum salary for a rookie who makes the team is $480,000 :crazy:
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2 or 3 years of that would set me up pretty nicely.
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And it does for them, too, if they manage their money well.
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Kirk Cousins, quarterback, Minnesota Vikings
:undecided: ......
The Vikings made another huge commitment to Cousins this offseason with a massive extension. The good news is that the deal created cap space for the cash-strapped Vikings and only keeps Cousins in Minnesota through 2022.
Sadly, as more players will learn during the 2020 NFL season, the title of superstar only lasts for so long. :doah:
The crash from NFL stardom can happen just as quickly as the ascent. Often age catches up to a player after more than a decade of hits leads to declining physical skills. Other times, players who could once excel despite a weak supporting cast around them suddenly can no longer achieve that level of greatness. :tut:
A new wave of superstars is coming this season, but it will mark the end for several of the NFL’s greats.
Here's one superstar who will fade this upcoming season.
On the other hand, the Vikings just took away a go-to target by trading Stefon Diggs and things seem to be getting even worse for this offense. :bonk:
Cousins, 31, is simply not going to keep playing at a high level with a shaky offensive line and an iffy supporting cast. Losing Diggs and the impact of his big-play ability, especially on play-action passes, will significantly hurt Cousins. Plus, running back Dalvin Cook is planning to hold out this season unless he gets a big extension. Given everything that is going on with the Vikings’ offense, we expect Cousins’ stats to take a significant hit. :doah:
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Hey, Lee...
How's that Quarterback Competition going for you's guys? :blues brothers:
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Hey, Lee...
How's that Quarterback Competition going for you's guys? :blues brothers:
I refuse ta answer dat question... :tut: On da grounds dat it may tend ta incriminate me! :doah:
:scratch: Who is dat person dat dares ta talk bout "DA BEARS" :blues brothers: On da Vikes Thread :doah:
A Bit
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Trubisky not conceding Bears starting QB job to Foles
LAKE FOREST, Ill. (AP) — Mitchell Trubisky understands why the Chicago Bears acquired quarterback Nick Foles.
That doesn't mean he's ready to hand over the starting job. :tut:
Trubisky said the trade for Foles gave him extra motivation to show he can develop into the franchise quarterback the Bears thought he would become when they moved up a spot to draft him with the No. 2 overall pick in 2017.
“That's the business we're in,” he said in a conference call on Friday. “I’ve been motivated since our season ended last year. I didn’t feel like it went the way we wanted to, and we left a lot out there. But I’m excited for this year. I think it’s going to be a good competition.”
Trubisky said he wasn't surprised when the Bears acquired Foles from Jacksonville in March or when they informed him they weren't picking up his fifth-year option for 2021.
After all, he didn't perform the way they expected last season. And the Bears stumbled, going 8-8 and missing the playoffs for the eighth time in nine years.
It certainly wasn't what they envisioned after winning the NFC North at 12-4 in 2018 — coach Matt Nagy's first season.
While a defense that has excelled in recent years performed well enough, the offense ranked among the NFL's worst. The Bears lacked playmakers to go with receiver Allen Robinson, were banged up on the line, ignored the run game and got little production from their tight ends.
That obviously didn't help Trubisky. But it doesn't completely explain why he struggled in his second year in Nagy's system.
Picked to replace Jared Goff in the Pro Bowl after the 2018 season, Trubisky's yards (3,138), completion rate (63.2%), touchdowns (17) and rating (83) all dropped from the previous year. He made too many errant throws and questionable decisions. And the fact that Kansas City's Patrick Mahomes and Houston's Deshaun Watson — who were taken later in the 2017 draft — continued to shine only magnified Trubisky's struggles.
Nagy challenged him to get a better read on opposing defenses. And the Bears made it clear they would look to bring in competition.
For that, Trubisky doesn't blame them. The same goes for their decision not to exercise his option.
“I kind of felt like I had it coming,” Trubisky said. “I put myself in their shoes — if I was looking at myself, I feel like I would have to go out and earn that fifth option, and I feel like the way I played last year didn’t merit that.”
Like Trubisky, Foles also has something to prove.
The 2018 Super Bowl MVP with Philadelphia, he lost his starting job to rookie Gardner Minshew during an injury-riddled season with Jacksonville and appeared in just four games after signing a four-year, $88 million contract.
Though Foles knows the system and has a history with Nagy in Philadelphia and Kansas City, the COVID-19 pandemic has prevented him from practicing with the Bears. Trubisky believes that gives him an edge in the competition.
“I think that advantage goes to me just because I’ve been the starter here the last two years, these are my guys, my teammates and guys I’ve built super strong relationships over the last two years,” he said.
But Trubisky also knows time is running out. General manager Ryan Pace made a bold move when he traded up a spot with San Francisco on draft night to take the quarterback, one that hasn't paid off the way he hoped. And now, Trubisky is fighting for his own job.
“All I can do is control what I can control this year and that’s go out and try to have a hell of a year with my teammates,” he said. “I love these guys to death and I’m excited about this year and whatever happens after that is out of my control. I just feel good about where I’m at right now, I feel good about this team.”
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:pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: WAYYYY :offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic: :tut: :pouty:
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Trubisky, Foles, Bobby Douglas, Tomzak.........other than McMahon does it really matter?
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So Foles was the MVP in a recent Superbowl. Doesn't seem to mean much these days. That sort of confuses me.
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This is cousin's year.. he'll light it up with nobody in the stands to boo him.. :bonk:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: But really I hope you are right. I try to be optimistic. This well be a much different team this year. I hope they gel early. The team that does that best will win.
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This is cousin's year.. he'll light it up with nobody in the stands to boo him.. :bonk:
I'll boo that choke from the comfort of my easy chair like I always do :happy1: :evil: :rotflmao:
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:pouty: :pouty: :tut: :tut: WAYYYY :offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic: :tut: :pouty:
:popcorn: I was just answering a question presented to me on dis Vikes thread by by one of yer esteemed :doah: Viking fans! :bow:
:taz:
So blow it out yer :moon:.... Yer just upset cuz now udder Viking fans are showin intrest in "DA BEARS" :blues brothers: on dis thred :tut:
Let's be honest bro! Ya can't blame-um after day kicked Da Vikes :moon: :moon: 's twice last year. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
So quit yer cryin Glenn!
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Is kicking the Vikings butt considered a big accomplishment down in the Bear den? It is a frequent occurrence and shouldn't come as a surprise lots of teams do it.
What would come as a surprise to many would be a competent NFL quarterback for the Bears. :doah:
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Is kicking the Vikings butt considered a big accomplishment down in the Bear den? It is a frequent occurrence and shouldn't come as a surprise lots of teams do it.
What would come as a surprise to many would be a competent NFL quarterback for the Bears. :doah:
As much as I hate ta admit it :bonk: Yer absolutely correct on dat! :pouty: :pouty:
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Minnesota Vikings: Dalvin Cook, RB...... :scratch:
:scratch: .......
Coming off a career year, Cook is already threatening a holdout in 2020. Cook was a difference maker for the Vikings offense, but it was also the first season in three years that he was able to stay on the field consistently. Between Cook's injury history and contract situation, he's an easy candidate for fading in 2020.
Just Sayin :confused:
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You can go down to a JUCO team and find a running back. They paid Cousins, now they gotta find some behemoths to block for him and a guy or two to catch the ball. Spend the rest of the money you save on Cook on the defensive side of the ball and take your chances.
They aren't winning the Super Bowl with or without him this year anyway.
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Dutchy, and here I thought you had your lawn chairs set up for the parade already. :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Yea they ain't ever winning a super bowl with cousins ad the QB.
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I see where the NFL & the NFLPA have come to an agreement on a couple issues needed to try to get started with their season. No preseason games but a longer training camp is 1 & everybody getting tested everyday for 2 weeks before they go to training camp is the other. Still some other things to get ironed out with the salary cap next year being a leading 1
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Pierce is opting out
https://www.startribune.com/new-vikings-defensive-tackle-pierce-opts-out-of-the-nfl-season/571933382/
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Pierce is opting out
https://www.startribune.com/new-vikings-defensive-tackle-pierce-opts-out-of-the-nfl-season/571933382/
Sounds like a well thought out decision. Good for him. (Bad for the Vikes.) But good for him!
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Read in the paper this morning the Vikings signed Cook to a new 5 year 63 million dollar contract. Now watch him get hurt today. :confused:
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so now I'm hearing the Vikings practicing social distancing yesterday, what next!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Ya good one. I don't think Cousins brings any excitement or real optimism to the team. Look at the complete opposite as in Favre. At least the team had fun with him and wanted to play for him. Almost any other QB in the league may do better for us except Newton. Couldn't handle that.
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I also heard on KFAM as they were bashing Cousins which was fun as heck that our time of possession was the shortest of any team since they started keeping track of it which I think they said was in 1977!
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I don’t know. Cousins kind of fits in with the Vikings tradition— have a few good games/plays and then dash our hopes. Shoulda kept Bridgewater.
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And Keenum. Would have left us more cap space to pay to improve other positions. Like the O-line.
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Bill Parcells was famous for once saying, "You are what your record says you are."
And most media football analysts figure, "You should know what kind of football team you have by the 4th game."
If we put those two things together, the best we can hope for this season is a .500 squad.
Funny... No one saw this coming. I guess we figured that...
- Zimm would do more of his voodoo to produce a top flight defense despite nose tackle Michael Pierce opting out, losing the top 3 CBs to free agency, and losing DE Hunter to injury at the beginning of the season.
- Kubiak's offense would pick up right where Stefanski's left off (and with all of Kubiak's experience and clout in the league - I almost can't believe I typed that).
- Cousins would get better with yet another year under his belt.
- The offensive line would be better without an infusion of improved talent.
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I still think getting rid of Keenum was a bad move on Zimmers part. His arrogance got in his way. He just never did seem to like Keenum. The team really liked him. Now I think the team gave up on the Kubiak/Zimmer philosophy along with Cousins as QB. I agree that an 8 game win season is the upside target now.
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I think the mistake was getting rid of Teddy - and Zimm liked Teddy. It must have been Spielman who decided they couldn't give him a contract after the rehabbed injury. Teddy has the kind of leadership you look for at the QB position.
Keenum was clutch for the Vikes that season, but I had the feeling he caught lightning in a bottle. The league was just figuring out the Diggs/Thielen tandem and they bailed out Keenum on balls he heaved out there. Keenum's biggest asset was that he wasn't afraid to fail.
Cousins probably has the best basic throwing skills, but lacking leadership and performance in the clutch, he leaves a lot to be desired.
Its kinda like the "Prevent Defense" except running it on the offensive side of the ball for the whole game.
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And now we know why Diggsy left. He was the smartest of them all. He is smiling and having fun playing football.
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I would have kept Keenum (although I missed that call from Spielman :doah:) and would have drove Bridgewater to the airport. In the Viking offense (which is offensive) Teddy had no chance at all. The Vikings were never going to get a chance at a #1 qb coming out of college. They had seen Green Bay with average players and 2 HOF quarterbacks dominating the division. Cousins was cheap and their best option at the time.
Little did we know it was Zimmer & Spielman who they should have cut loose.
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And maybe Kubiak should go with them. Diggsy may have know more about the Kubiak offense than we know too. Stefanski may have been the best of all of them.
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just read that Barr is out for the season with a torn pectorial muscle. i know some dont think much of him but he can have some good games and i like him on this team!!!!!!!
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Ouch! He is a pretty important part of the Zimm defense. Good luck to them.
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Well that seals it. Start all the kids. These guys can't stop anybody anyway might as well get them game experience.
Oh, let Cousins call his own game also. What the hell ya got to lose?
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Sounds good to me. Maybe they would have fun.
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All I kin say is "Better Luck Next Year" as dem Vikes shoot fur tree in a row dis week........... :banghead:
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After reading :coffee: back on dem recent posts here dis mornin I've come ta a conclusion...... Day should-a named dis thread........ :confused:
Da Would-a ..should-a....could-a thread! :crazy:
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You are a lot of fun Lee. :mooning: So I have a bottle of brandy bet with each of my two brothers. I have the Vikes and they gave me 8 pts.
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You are a lot of fun Lee. :mooning: So I have a bottle of brandy bet with each of my two brothers. I have the Vikes and they gave me 8 pts.
8 points? Really? If somehow you should lose head across to Wisconsin and get a couple of jugs of that cheap Brandy they like over there.
8 points.........really????
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I try to be optimistic about the Vikes but it is a challenge this year. 8 pts may not be nearly enough. ???? Vegas has Titans as 2.5 pt favorites.
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Leaves are coming down. Air is cooling off. Instead of worrying about 8 point spreads, maybe it is time to start worrying about 8 point bucks.
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But I won that 8 pt spread. LOL
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That was my point. Why would anybody get 8 points and be the home team? I was baffled you would get 8 points from 1 person let alone 2. :doah:
But you won. :happy1:
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Sorry ta hear bout yer loss. :pouty: Wit 4 losses after next week, wit no wins it's time jews guys better start lookin towards next season. :doah:
Four losses = Burnt Toast.... :doah:
An Dat's not ta mention da 2 more losses when ya play "DA BEARS" :blues brothers:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I hope they don’t win a game all season. Maybe we’ll finally get a good quarterback in the draft. I’m sick of the patchwork football team they seem to put together every year.
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I hope they don’t win a game all season. Maybe we’ll finally get a good quarterback in the draft. I’m sick of the patchwork football team they seem to put together every year.
We meaning... "DA Bears" have just da guy your lookin fur................. :sleazy:
:blues brothers:
:oscar: ........
Mitchell Trubisky #10
Position
Quarterback
Age
26
Height / Weight
6'2" / 215 lbs
Experience
4th Season
College
North Carolina
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I would be part of the "we will take Foles" program. I wanted him long ago.
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Ben Leber take from the last Vikings loss: Cousins wasn't the reason we lost the game, but he was a big reason why we were still in it.
Defense has lots of excuses: Michael Pierce opt out, inexperienced corner backs, key injuries at d-line, linebacker and secondary - but did anyone think that a Zimmer defense would be this bad?
O-line. O-line. O-line.
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Vikings vs. Texans odds, line: 2020 NFL picks, Week 4 predictions from proven computer model :doah:
Good news er Bad news.... :scratch:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/Sports/nfl/vikings-vs-texans-odds-line-2020-nfl-picks-week-4-predictions-from-proven-computer-model/ar-BB19FOtR?li=BBnbfcL&pfr=1
:angry2: .. Er... :Clap: :scratch:
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I was surprised that the Texans are 0-3 too. Gonna be a good game.
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:scratch: Thought I read somethin,Thursday or Friday, about Hunter gettin a 2nd opinion :confused: as he was feelin better & hopin he could play. :confused:
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Good we need him.
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I know I won't be sitting in front of the TV watching when it's this nice outside. Listen to them on the radio in the garage.
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Watching Sunday night football I see where the Vikings play the Sunday nite prime time game. Oh boy, getting embarrassed by seattle in prime time. :pouty: :pouty:
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I know I won't be sitting in front of the TV watching when it's this nice outside. Listen to them on the radio in the garage.
Still got all dem old spicy :sleazy: magazines in da garage I spoze :tut: Well.... ta each his own but ta not watch da game! :crazy:
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:happy1: Startin to like the rookie WR from LSU, another good game yday. Good hands, nice size, seems to be catchin on pretty quick too. :cool:
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Ya he sure seems to be a gamer. He is handling the NFL just fine.
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I watched Jefferson play in college a few times, he was lights out. On the radio after the game greg Coleman interviewed him, compared him to Moss and Carter.
That post game show after the game is pretty interesting.
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Last week they said he broke Randy Moss's one game Rookie record. :happy1:
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He is a long, long ways from Moss or Carter. Let him actually do something of significance for a couple of years before giving him that status.
Coleman blows more smoke then Cheech & Chong in their prime
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He WAS better than Moss as a Rookie for one game. That's all I said. AND I have a hard time enjoying Coleman too.
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He is a long, long ways from Moss or Carter. Let him actually do something of significance for a couple of years before giving him that status.
Coleman blows more smoke then Cheech & Chong in their prime
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: I agree about Coleman. :rotflmao: and I just repeated what they said, didn't say a agreed. :happy1:
I like listening to people blow smoke and giggle. We read boars posts right :rotflmao: doesn't mean I believe it. Hell Ive listened to management for years :rotflmao:
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yes yu do....
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yes yu do....
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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He is a long, long ways from Moss or Carter. Let him actually do something of significance for a couple of years before giving him that status.
Coleman blows more smoke then Cheech & Chong in their prime
Sure hope he doesn't have the off the field issues that Moss & Carter had when they came into the league as he won't be around long enough to do us much good, Zimmer won't put up with it. Seen him a bunch in college too as they had a real good team & was on national tv a lot.
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yes yu do....
:bs: :tut: do not. :mad1: :moon:
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uh huuuuh.
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Damn, Cook just came up limping. :confused: :pouty: :censored: :doah:
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It's Over!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WChTqYlDjtI
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With cousins as qb it never really started. :doofus: :pouty: :pouty: :confused: :confused:
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Vikings vs. Seahawks
highlights | Week 5
:pouty:
Fur Dem Dats wantin ta feel da pain. :mad1:
VIEW HERE....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-vs-seahawks-highlights-week-5/vi-BB19VCPv
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there sure was alot of 2nd guessing with the commentators on the TV last night doing the game about why they ran the ball instead of kicking a field goal. something i questioned also. they gave a live shot and it was pouring rain, if that had anything to do with it! :scratch: :scratch: to many things to go wrong with a really wet ball???? but they were also running the ball lights out all night????
anyways i liked the outcome, made 16 bucks on a little family football pool!!!!!!! :evil: :bow: :happy1: :happy1: :rotflmao:
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We do have a lot of young guys that will get better with time. BUT on KFAN yesterday they said that since Cousins has been here he has played 19 games with teams that had a .500 record or more. Guess how many of those games Quirk won? I guessed 7. But no the answer is: 3! Think about that for awhile. And they aren't even grooming a second QB. Huge flaw in the program!
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i've been saying this all along, Cousins chokes in big games. :confused: :confused: yea i get he doesnt have much help on the offensive line but sheez!!!!!!! :embarrassed: and they just extended his contract????? :doofus: :doofus:
and your right LPS........i'm not sure i could name there backup QB?????????
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:scratch: :rolleyes: The rookie from Ia, Stanley! :doah:
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Yup either Stanley or Browning. Not Mannion. Better be getting those guys warming up if they want to save the team. They have given up on Cousins.
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The defense hasn't been much better & has to be near the bottom of the league overall. :pouty: They struggle against the run without Barr & a good NT, the pass defense with the young corners as well as not much of a pass rush without Hunter isn't much better. :sad:
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just read that the vikings traded the defensive guy they got from jacksonville to baltimore for 2021 draft picks................... to bad they couldnt throw cousins in with it. :pouty: :evil:
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Geez Glenn.....look for the silver lining. With the defense weakened the other team will score faster, offering your boy Cousins more chances to move the ball.
Silver lining Glenn, look for the silver lining. :laugh:
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Geez Glenn.....look for the silver lining. With the defense weakened the other team will score faster, offering your boy Cousins more chances to move the ball.
Silver lining Glenn, look for the silver lining. :laugh:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: how could i even think so one sided!!!!!! :evil: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :imstupid:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Ya it is ugly and not gonna get any better soon. Now Hunter went in for surgery on his neck and may not want to stay with the Vikes neither.
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damn it!!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :taz: just read on KSTP's web site Matt Blair passed away. he was 70. now that was o good football player. :pouty: :sad: :embarrassed: :doah:
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RIP............
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Heck ya. He was a great Viking! RIP Matt. #59. I just read his stats. I forgot how good he really was. More sacks than any other linebacker on the Vikes. More blocked kicks than anyone else too. Even blocked a punt and 2 or 3 field goals. LOL Most of us probably saw every one of them!!!
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Yeah, MN had the linebacker thing going on for a long time.
Blair: 74-85
Studwell: 77-90
Doleman: 85-99
I bumped into Matt Blair once... literally... I was a teen and it was like hitting a brick wall.
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Studwell!! if he didn't have blood on him he wasn't playing!! what a beast!!! met him once and a few other Vikings one time in a bar... fun and interesting!!!
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just read that the vikings traded the defensive guy they got from jacksonville to baltimore for 2021 draft picks................... to bad they couldnt throw cousins in with it. :pouty: :evil:
:scratch: IMO #8 & Zimmer will be leaving at the same time as he is Zimm's guy. Probably be about the same time they go see what Childress is doin these days. :doah: :evil:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Ya it is ugly and not gonna get any better soon. Now Hunter went in for surgery on his neck and may not want to stay with the Vikes neither.
:scratch: Just read a pc where they said that he liked it here 'cause he could've got more $ on his last deal if he acted like he was thinkin about leavin so........................................... :confused:
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just read that the vikings traded the defensive guy they got from jacksonville to baltimore for 2021 draft picks................... to bad they couldnt throw cousins in with it. :pouty: :evil:
:scratch: IMO #8 & Zimmer will be leaving at the same time as he is Zimm's guy. Probably be about the same time they go see what Childress is doin these days. :doah: :evil:
you should probably include speilman on that list!!!!!! :happy1:
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If they bring Childress back I might turn into a Bear's fan or even a GB. :crazy: :thumbs: :pouty:
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If they bring Childress back I might turn into a Bear's fan or even a GB. :crazy: :thumbs: :pouty:
As far as I know Chilly Dog isn't even coaching is he? A couple years ago he has a "associate OC" tag but I don't think that lasted either.
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Yup me too. Last I heard he was an assistant of something for a team.
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He was with the Bears as a consultant & senior assistant on offense last, 2018-2019, & just retired finally this April. Before that him & Nagy were with Andy Reid in KC with the offense.
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I just realized dat da Vikes are having a by week. Dat's one way of not loosing I guess. :confused: Hope use guys are able ta see DA BEARS game dis week. :blues brothers:
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:scratch: :scratch: someone say something???? :doah: :scratch: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: :scratch: someone say something???? :doah: :scratch: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
And ta tink. :scratch: I was just gunna send ya one-a dem dare Chicago Bears Helmet Lamps. :doah:
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:scratch: :scratch: someone say something???? :doah: :scratch: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
I didn't hear nothing!!! :rotflmao:
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:scratch: :scratch: someone say something???? :doah: :scratch: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
And ta tink. :scratch: I was just gunna send ya one-a dem dare Chicago Bears Helmet Lamps. :doah:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: guess i just blew that one!!!!!!!! :pouty: :confused:
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KC, yep thats what I was trying to think of.
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Since I get in da woods, I wanna get my pick in for da vikes and Detroit.
Vikes 54.
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:popcorn: .... :rotflmao:
Ho! ya better watch out... Ya bedder not cry :cry:.....Ya bedder watch out....I'm tellin ya why..... :reporter; "Da Chicago Bears are cummin ta town"..... We'll trick yer lousy defense :doofus:.....While yer boys are not awake :moon:......Yer team is on a downward slide......While Da Bears have come awake......Hoooo! ya bedder watch out....... Ya bedder not cry :lipsrsealed:..... Da Chicago Bears will poke yer eye!...... Just tellin use bums......Da reasons why......Da Chicago Bears are commin ta town!
:blues brothers:
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Ho! ya better watch out... Ya bedder not cry :cry:.....Ya bedder watch out....I'm tellin ya why..... :blues brothers:
I'll tell you's what's sad...
Dat 'da bunches of us here don't have any t'ing else to look forward to except braggin' rights for dis next game... :doah:
Dat and next year's draft. :banghead:
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Oh no we are down with the lowly Bears again. :confused:
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Yeah, Sunday Night Football broadcast said either team only has a 16/17% chance of making the playoffs.
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Yeah, Sunday Night Football broadcast said either team only has a 16/17% chance of making the playoffs.
Why did ya have ta go and post dat! Don't ya know dat all da guys on here are livin in a fantasy :doofus: world. :banghead:
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Q: How do you know the Minnesota State Police are seriously enforcing the Speed Limits into Minneapolis.
A: For the first offense, they give you two Vikings tickets. If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Q: How do you know the Minnesota State Police are seriously enforcing the Speed Limits into Minneapolis.
A: For the first offense, they give you two Vikings tickets. If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.
(https://pics.me.me/what-bears-fans-see-whateveryone-else-sees-nfl-memes-mnf-11443294.png)
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Both good ones. :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:popcorn: Let's set da record straight .........
After "Da Bears" :blues brothers: defeat dem training-087 Vikes on Sunday I just wanted ta let ya guys know! Dat yer welcome ta jump on "Da Bears" band wagon. :happy1: Dis will be a fun ride fur ya's. as dem Bears continue ta rip true da rest a-da season schedule.
Don't feel bad :pouty: about being knocked out-a-da playoff schedule. Ya need ta get used ta-da idea dat facts are facts an dat's a fact JACK !
I just wanted ya ta know :scratch: dat we here in da flatland hated ta bring ya da bad news but, you's guys never really figured ta make da playoffs no-how!
Just remember "Dat Ders Always Next Year" :doah:
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Vikings might not make the play-offs but the Bears will still have Trubisky & Pace. :sleazy:
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Vikings might not make the play-offs but the Bears will still have Trubisky & Pace. :sleazy:
Ya Den What! :scratch:
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:blues brothers:Don't Look Now Butt......... :moon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTYJryNgLH8&feature=emb_logo
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That is just sick!!! :confused:
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:reporter;Just ta show dat ders no hard feelings :pouty: I am tak-in new Bears Fan Applications!
Feel free ta sign up here...... :rotflmao:
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So obviously you don't think there will more than 10 new recruits. :sleazy:
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So obviously you don't think there will more than 10 new recruits. :sleazy:
Don't know yet....So far yer da only one ta jump ship ;)
Feel free ta sign up here...... :rotflmao:
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That's fake news! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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:oscar: Let us as da close nit group dat we are, take a moment out ta review da most enjoyable game of da season. :smoking:
Bears vs. Vikings Week 15 Highlights | NFL 2020
Strap yourselves in and hang on fur da ride! :happy1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saWXy4a-FQQ&feature=emb_err_woyt
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:pouty: :doah: hmm any odder minnesota resident get this utoobe video??? :scratch: I can't. :confused: :smoking: :sleazy: :evil: :rotflmao:
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Article on MSN says cousin's time in minnesota is running out. Sounds as though the 49ers coach shanahan gas a love affair with cappin kirk. They sound like there gonna part ways with Jimmy cause he's always hurt.
Sounds like there will be 5 QB's drafted early and a big QB carasual with current QB's. Prescott would be good in purple. :sleazy: :happy1:
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A grinch story on Christmas Eve? I see a lump of coal in your future Glenn. :pouty:
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A grinch story on Christmas Eve? I see a lump of coal in your future Glenn. :pouty:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: thats what the vikings got for a QB. a lump of coal!!!!!! :evil: :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
seriously though i know its not all on him, for some reason we cant find the right offensive linemen. :doah: and with all the injuries and players we lost on defense. i've watched other teams that got our defensive guys and there doing pretty good elsewhere. :pouty:
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I see that too Glenn. Other coaches seem to motivate them just fine.
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Well you fellers getting ready to watch the Vikings get a good whooping this afternoon. :pouty: :confused: think Kamara is going to have a field day. Ge sure is fun to watch.
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Bite your tongue fella! :rotflmao: Now I hope we kick their ass.
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Well in anticipation prior to the game, wife and I just got done watching Alvin and the chipmunks and the sqweekuel. Still funny as all get out.
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We just watched The Family with DeNiro. Great show. Kind of like the one you just watched Glenn. :happy1:
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Kamara, off to the races. :confused: :pouty: gonna be a long afternoon.
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Yup and if a team wants to win and they have 38 seconds left you would think they would at least try to get some yards not pass for 7 yards in the middle of the field. ?????
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Good lord, I'm pretty sure Glenn coulda had several td's against the Vikes today. Missing the big was guys was the difference..
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MINNESOTA (6-9) AT DETROIT (5-10) (Sunday, 1 p.m. ET)
TV: FOX Line: Minnesota -7
What you need to know: :confused:
:coffee: .....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-week-17-picks-and-preview/ss-BB1cpgpv?li=BBnbfcL#image=5
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Jefferson already beat Moss's receptions with 79 and needs 47 yards receiving to meat Moss's yards record.
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MINNESOTA (6-9) AT DETROIT (5-10) (Sunday, 1 p.m. ET)
TV: FOX Line: Minnesota -7
What you need to know: :confused:
:coffee: .....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-week-17-picks-and-preview/ss-BB1cpgpv?li=BBnbfcL#image=5
It's the battle of the basement. Not where we expected to be.
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I see Minn let the Special teams coordinator go
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Jefferson already beat Moss's receptions with 79 and needs 47 yards receiving to meat Moss's yards record.
and now he has the record for vikings rookies AND the NFL yardage record for rookies surpassing Antone Godwin, i belive??/
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I see Minn let the Special teams coordinator go
i thought i heard last nite on the news Kubiak retired also????????
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could be
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Jefferson already beat Moss's receptions with 79 and needs 47 yards receiving to meat Moss's yards record.
and now he has the record for vikings rookies AND the NFL yardage record for rookies surpassing Antone Godwin, i belive??/
:scratch: :doah: I think you mean Anquan Boldin.......................................... don't you? :doofus: :sleazy: :nerd: :nerd:
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I see Minn let the Special teams coordinator go
The way they performed this year you couldn't tell they even had one.
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I see Minn let the Special teams coordinator go
The way they performed this year you couldn't tell they even had one.
I do hope some sports writer writes the story of what went wrong with the Vikes' special teams. I'm certain the story goes much deeper than "Zim hates kickers."
And it was more than just Bailey missing kicks. The Viking's offense had the worst average starting position of any team in the league meaning our defense had fewer stops and our special teams were out-played and out-punted by virtually every other special teams unit they faced.
Now add to it the Spielman/Zimmerman decision to cut 2018 5th round draft pick Dan Carlson and then traded another 5th round draft pick to get Kaare Vedvik in 2019 - only to cut him 2 weeks later. They did sign Bailey as a free agent, but that is a lot of draft capital to have spent in recent years on kickers and have nothing on the roster to show for it now.
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The team just isn't good, nor is it deep. Lose a couple guys and everything suffers. I just can't understand how Spielman isn't being help responsible for the lack of depth. He is quick to take the credit for stockpiling draft picks but he isn't getting the players the coaches need. Time to name him "The Teflon man" the way responsibility & blame slides off him.
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Jefferson already beat Moss's receptions with 79 and needs 47 yards receiving to meat Moss's yards record.
and now he has the record for vikings rookies AND the NFL yardage record for rookies surpassing Antone Godwin, i belive??/
:scratch: :doah: I think you mean Anquan Boldin.......................................... don't you? :doofus: :sleazy: :nerd: :nerd:
yea dat guy!!!!!!!! just keeping you on your toes!!!!! :mooning: :sleazy: :rotflmao:
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OK Vikings fans...
If you could only dump one and have to keep the other, who would you keep? Spielman or Zimmer?
And if you dump Zim, who would you want to replace him?
:popcorn:
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That is one heck of a good question. I have to think about that for awhile.
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BOAR!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:
on a serious note.........if you dump one.........you dump both.
i wouldnt dump either. there are alot of things this past year that were just not normal. to many injuries.
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I think we have to wait one more year before we do any knee jerk reactions on this. Even though I have said fire them during the season it was emotions talking.
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I consider myself a casual fan. I don't really care when they lose and don't get to jacked up when they win. For me they are tied at the hip. One goes they both go. Speilman has done nothing to the point that I would think he has done a exceptional job. This year shows the lack of depth on the team. Zimmer has kept them on the straight and narrow off the field or at least kept the police blotter from becoming public.
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get rid of speilman, make zim def coach only, get new head coach
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I would go along with that. Head Coach does seem a little over Zim's head to me.
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Yes, that is a very interesting take. Trouble is, the ego of a fired coach is too big to step down and take a lesser role on the same team. Look at Leslie Frazier. Great guy, but maybe not cut out to be a head coach. He went back to what he is great at and now the Buffalo Bills are in the playoffs and the Vikings aren't.
Still, just think... If Zim would have backed down as head coach to run the defense and Spielman/Ziggy had the foresight to promote Stafanski to head coach and offensive play caller - now that would be a great combo platter!
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Exactly the scenario that I think would have been best for all Steve. I feel bad for Stefanski not being able to coach this weekend. I am kind of a Cleveland fan cuz he is there now. :happy1:
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The Zim/Spieman era has been in and out. IMHO, it has taken the Vikings organization a long time for them to recover from hiring Brad Childress in 2006 and letting Mike Tomlin walk in 2007.
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If Chilly was as good as he thought he was we would have a couple of Super Bowls by now. Turns out he wasn't all that good.
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lota of stuff in the news that Deshawn Watson had his fill in houston.
wonder if we could trade cousins for watson!!!!!!!1 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Who else would Houston have to throw in?
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: I was thinking the Vikings would have to throw in Cook to make it work. :rotflmao:
But iffin it could, JJ Watts would be nice, to answer your question. :happy1:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: I was thinking the Vikings would have to throw in Cook to make it work. :rotflmao:
But iffin it could, JJ Watts would be nice, to answer your question. :happy1:
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lota of stuff in the news that Deshawn Watson had his fill in houston.
wonder if we could trade cousins for watson!!!!!!!1 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Maybe :scratch: if you agreed to pay for 1/2 the new deal ;) :laugh: :laugh: that he just signed in Sept. It was ONLY for $156 mil/4 years & just shy of $74 mil guaranteed. Vikes have no cap space & that was the main reason so many left this year.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: I was thinking the Vikings would have to throw in Cook to make it work. :rotflmao:
But iffin it could, JJ Watts would be nice, to answer your question. :happy1:
:scratch: You been hangin out & vapin with that new guy? ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: I was thinking the Vikings would have to throw in Cook to make it work. :rotflmao:
But iffin it could, JJ Watts would be nice, to answer your question. :happy1:
:scratch: You been hangin out & vapin with that new guy? ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
:rotflmao: Yea so......
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Vikings: What could Minnesota get in return for Kirk Cousins? :confused:
:scratch: .... View ..... :scratch:
:coffee: ......
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-what-could-minnesota-get-in-return-for-kirk-cousins/ar-BB1dgrIq?li=BBnbfcL&pfr=1
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I have not been a Kirk lover but he is getting better every year and he is not why the Vikings are not winning.
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Kirk's they devil they know.
Deshon Watson is the QB out there with all the upside, but if what the Lions got for a tail-end-of-his-career Mathew Stafford is the going rate, then Watson should get more.
The Vikes have too many holes on the roster to give up that many first round draft picks.
Besides Deshon, who else would you want? :confused:
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Here Come the Cousins Trade Rumors
Update :coffee:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/here-come-the-cousins-trade-rumors/ar-BB1diAjc?li=BBnbfcL&pfr=1
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Here Come the Cousins Trade Rumors
Update :coffee:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/here-come-the-cousins-trade-rumors/ar-BB1diAjc?li=BBnbfcL&pfr=1
And here is the money quote...
"What does make sense is for the Vikings to extend Cousins in a reasonable deal, maybe even convince him to take a Tom Brady, below market deal, now that his family’s financial security is well in hand for generations, provide continuity and stability the rest of his career, and give him and the team a better chance at winning a Super Bowl. In any case, using a signing bonus to push more salary cap into future years when the salary cap will be higher, allowing the Vikings to keep or acquire more talent this coming year."
I wonder... would you guys have done the Goff deal? Would you have traded Cousins for Goff, two #1s and one #3 draft pick?
Maybe the Niners are willing to make a similar trade with us now.
We'd have to overpay to get Watson. How about if someone overpays us to get Cousins. Just sayin...
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:happy1: :scratch: I seen an article which said that Shanahan is still a fan of Cousin's from their days at Washington but it also said that Lynch is known for gathering draft picks so he was unlikely to do a similar trade. It went on to say that he'd been quoted as saying that he thinks the Rams gave up to much in the Goff/Stafford trade & it would hurt them down the line which in turn would be a plus for the 49er's.
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Accuracy & credibility has gone out the window in journalism. Today it's who can throw some mud against the wall and get it to stick. Mention enough players & teams and you eventually will get close. In the meantime the players family and friends have to read this crap and answer questions about it.
Maybe a rumor that X writer is about to be fired is due to be leaked out.
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Here Come the Cousins Trade Rumors
Update :coffee:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/here-come-the-cousins-trade-rumors/ar-BB1diAjc?li=BBnbfcL&pfr=1
And here is the money quote...
"What does make sense is for the Vikings to extend Cousins in a reasonable deal, maybe even convince him to take a Tom Brady, below market deal, now that his family’s financial security is well in hand for generations, provide continuity and stability the rest of his career, and give him and the team a better chance at winning a Super Bowl. In any case, using a signing bonus to push more salary cap into future years when the salary cap will be higher, allowing the Vikings to keep or acquire more talent this coming year."
I wonder... would you guys have done the Goff deal? Would you have traded Cousins for Goff, two #1s and one #3 draft pick?
Maybe the Niners are willing to make a similar trade with us now.
We'd have to overpay to get Watson. How about if someone overpays us to get Cousins. Just sayin...
this is going pain me a bit, but to answer Steveo's question ............NO!!!1 i'll admit Cousins aint a bad QB but that same article or another one i read said the Vikings are way better off building around Cousins......and i agree they need help in a few areas.
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I'm mixed on Cousins. I'm happy to roll with him.
But the Belichick philosophy is to deal a player one year too early rather than hang onto him one year too long. Sell high. Buy Low.
It all depends on which direction the Vikings brain trust wants to go. Personally, I think both their whole defense and offensive line is at least 2 years away from making a serious playoff push.
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Accuracy & credibility has gone out the window in journalism. Today it's who can throw some mud against the wall and get it to stick. Mention enough players & teams and you eventually will get close. In the meantime the players family and friends have to read this crap and answer questions about it.
Maybe a rumor that X writer is about to be fired is due to be leaked out.
It's NOT just the reporters/writers or just sports either, the networks are just as bad or worse. Listen to the same news story on CNN & then Fox News :crazy:, that'll have most of us goin :thumbs: :pouty:
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Here Come the Cousins Trade Rumors
Update :coffee:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/here-come-the-cousins-trade-rumors/ar-BB1diAjc?li=BBnbfcL&pfr=1
And here is the money quote...
"What does make sense is for the Vikings to extend Cousins in a reasonable deal, maybe even convince him to take a Tom Brady, below market deal, now that his family’s financial security is well in hand for generations, provide continuity and stability the rest of his career, and give him and the team a better chance at winning a Super Bowl. In any case, using a signing bonus to push more salary cap into future years when the salary cap will be higher, allowing the Vikings to keep or acquire more talent this coming year."
I wonder... would you guys have done the Goff deal? Would you have traded Cousins for Goff, two #1s and one #3 draft pick?
Maybe the Niners are willing to make a similar trade with us now.
We'd have to overpay to get Watson. How about if someone overpays us to get Cousins. Just sayin...
this is going pain me a bit, but to answer Steveo's question ............NO!!!1 i'll admit Cousins aint a bad QB but that same article or another one i read said the Vikings are way better off building around Cousins......and i agree they need help in a few areas.
:shocked: ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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Anything that costs more than one draft choice will hamstring us for another year or two. We need multiple new players on our team.
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Breaking News....Breaking News....Breaking News....Breaking News....Breaking News....
:oscar: Dis Just In........: Dis Just In........ :doah:
:reporter; .. Vikings insider throws water on Kirk Cousins trade speculation :confused:
:crazy: ....
While rumors continue to swirl surrounding Kirk Cousins' future in Minnesota, it doesn't look like he'll get traded this offseason.
:coffee: .....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-insider-throws-water-on-kirk-cousins-trade-speculation/ar-BB1dmUqc?li=BBnbfcL
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There never was a chance they traded him. It was just more crap started by somebody needing to publish a article. The only reason they would have traded him is if he forced his way out like Diggs did.
Now, the rumor that Spielman is working on a Zimmer for Lefleur trade with Green Bay might be true.......or maybe not. ;)
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They keep bringing us back to the love affair Shanahan has with Cousins as the basis to these trade rumors. I didn't read the thing above yet but one theory which was fun to read was Cousins to New England, so Watson to Vikes, 49ers keep Garoppolo. Fun theories but will believe it when I see it.
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A) Cousins isn't a Belichick type of quarterback, so no.
B) Watson has a full no trade, so no.
C) Niners will jettison Garoppolo if they get a chance.
Of all the things the Vikings need a quarterback isn't one of them. They have to many other issues to address to worry about without adding contract money.
Many of these rumors are started by agents & teams to further what their agenda is.
I find the rumors more funny than serious.
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There never was a chance they traded him. It was just more crap started by somebody needing to publish a article. The only reason they would have traded him is if he forced his way out like Diggs did.
Now, the rumor that Spielman is working on a Zimmer for Lefleur trade with Green Bay might be true.......or maybe not. ;)
I'm all for a Zimmer trade or change. New blood at the lead may help. :happy1:
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A) Cousins isn't a Belichick type of quarterback, so no.
B) Watson has a full no trade, so no.
C) Niners will jettison Garoppolo if they get a chance.
Of all the things the Vikings need a quarterback isn't one of them. They have to many other issues to address to worry about without adding contract money.
Many of these rumors are started by agents & teams to further what their agenda is.
I find the rumors more funny than serious.
I Agree..........they need help in other areas then QB. although i will still say Cousins wont get us to the promise land. well, maybe if he can get help on the O-line and a better defense then last year.
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As it turns pit Case Keenum had as good a chance as any quarterback as the Vikings have had recently.
Don't bring that Bridgewater crap here either. :tut: ;)
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did any one notice Fran Tarkington passed away yesterday I think it was.. some thing like 81...
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Really, no I hadn't heard he was sick. Always looked pretty good when on TV for whatever reason. May he R.I.P.
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:scratch: I looked on both channels 4 & 5 websites and it's not there. Also googled him and nothing about him passing there either.
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saw it on a sports channel yesterday afternoon late...
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maybe it's some of that false news stuff... :scratch: :scratch:
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Maybe a rumor started by a news story headline about Fran Tarkrnton’s passing...”stats” or “record” or something?
I was at a sports bar yesterday and noticed on ESPN they had a teaser about Tarkenton coming up. Didn’t catch the story, though.
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that could be the same one.. must be false, sorry fellers...
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saw it on a sports channel yesterday afternoon late...
after HH :doah: :scratch: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :evil:
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saw it on a sports channel yesterday afternoon late...
after HH :doah: :scratch: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :evil:
nope 1st beer.... :rotflmao: :happy1:
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:bow: Great news fur Glenn..... :pouty:
:coffee: ......
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-coach-mike-zimmer-responds-to-kirk-cousins-trade-rumors/ar-BB1dqAJs?li=BBnbfcL
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i just read that the NFL awards went out. rookie of the year went to Hubert of san diego!!!!! :confused: :doah: :thumbs: :thumbs:
IMO Jefferson got screwed. :taz: :taz: :taz: :banghead: :banghead:
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Darn. I was hoping for him too.
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heard Allen got passed too....
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i just read that the NFL awards went out. rookie of the year went to Hubert of san diego!!!!! :confused: :doah: :thumbs: :thumbs:
IMO Jefferson got screwed. :taz: :taz: :taz: :banghead: :banghead:
:scratch: Humphrey? :rolleyes: ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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i just read that the NFL awards went out. rookie of the year went to Hubert of san diego!!!!! :confused: :doah: :thumbs: :thumbs:
IMO Jefferson got screwed. :taz: :taz: :taz: :banghead: :banghead:
:scratch: Humphrey? :rolleyes: ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:crazy: :confused: iowgians. :rotflmao:
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:sleazy: :nerd: :nerd: Oh....................................you meant Herbert their QB! :doofus: :doah:
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After watching last night's game I can only hope the Vikings were paying attention on how to use a talented tight end. They've got at lease two of them if not three. None were used enough this past season IMO. If you look past Brady the next choice for MVP could have been either team's tight end. They both played great. :happy1: :happy1:
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After watching last nights game you should realize the Vikings have no where near the talent or coaching of elite teams.
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Was just on the phone talking to an old friend about Tampa's team. Compared to the Vikes we have a long way to go to compete with a team like them.
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Was just on the phone talking to an old friend about Tampa's team. Compared to the Vikes we have a long way to go to compete with a team like them.
It took Zimmer 3 years to build his defense.
In 2016 (Zim's 3rd year) the Vikes went 8-8, but had the 3rd best defense in terms of yards and 6th best defense in terms of points.
In year 4, 2017, they went 13-3 (Keenum caught lightening in a bottle), and the Vikes had the #1 defense in terms of yards AND points!
The Super Bowl window was still wide open when they brought Cousins in for 2018, but they slid back to 19th in offense while the defense still held a respectable 9th place ranking.
Fan's still weren't sold on Cousins, but his play along with Diggs and Cook raised the offense to #8 and the aging defense found a way to improve to 5th.
And this year the bottom fell out with the defense finishing ranked 29th.
Where are they compared to Tampa?
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I didn’t think I was comparing the Vikings as a team to either the bucs or chiefs. Just making a comment on how well their tight ends played and how I felt the Vikings under utilized their tight ends this past season. Sorry for the confusion. :happy1:
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I was replying to LPS. I think his point and my point is that the Vikings' Super Bowl windows that was wide open for 3 or 4 years is now slammed shut.
Its goona take Zim 2 or 3 years (at best) to rebuild the defense, and to your point, Markn, they also have to figure out the offensive line issues. I think the Vikings' tight ends are underutilized in the passing game because they have to stay in and block to help a below average offensive line.
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Meh, the Vikings are going to be super bowl champs next year. After all they do have Cousin's. :bow: :whistling: :whistling: :happybounce: :nerd: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
And I read this morning kubiacks kid is now the O coordinator.
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I see where they're supposed to be hiring a coach from Alabama, Karl Scott, to take over coaching the DB's too.
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We get the 4, Hunter, the 1 that opted out - Pierce, Kendricks, & Barr, of our front 7 who didn't play much last year back I think the defense will look much different. I would not be surprised to see them draft or sign a FA safety though & let Harris go. I'd like for them to build some depth on the OL, myself. Rookie deals are for 4 years these days so if they're any good they have to either pay 'em or let 'em go after that.
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Yes, the defense ought to be better with guys returning, but...
They are also getting older and make more money. The talking heads of sports radio speculate that Barr isn't the impact player that his contract warrants. Yeah, in Zim's defense, Barr mucks up a lot of stuff so other guys can make plays - so Zim is best suited to know if Barr is worth the money or not. Question is... are the other guys up to making those plays?
It still feels like the defense is two years away because the secondary is so young, raw, and unproven (and with a new coach). Meanwhile, the other player are getting up there in age:
Kendricks (6 seasons), Harris (6), Barr (7), Smith (9), Hunter (6), Pierce (5)
In two years those guys are going to be that much older and slower.
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That's a lot of talent that we are going to lose in the near future. Hope we can find replacements that we can afford.
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So maybe they aren't two years away, maybe three or four.
Or if those guys come back healthy and play well, and if Spielman can add two or three upgrades at key positions, is the Super Bowl window still open a crack? At least for next season?
:confused:
It has been Zim and Spielman's pattern: one bad year, one good year, one bad year, one good year, one bad year...
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So maybe they aren't two years away, maybe three or four.
Or if those guys come back healthy and play well, and if Spielman can add two or three upgrades at key positions, is the Super Bowl window still open a crack? At least for next season?
:confused:
It has been Zim and Spielman's pattern: one bad year, one good year, one bad year, one good year, one bad year...
Umm, the only reason there is a window at all is because they belong in the NFL. They have about the same chance of being in the Super Bowl as Detroit. Which is slim & none and slim just left the building.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-vikings-are-reportedly-signing-a-new-kicker/ar-BB1dxQ9h?li=BBnb7Kz
sounds like the vikes want a new kicker...
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Pretty sure it's a money thing. But this guy was on a practice squad for a reason. Ad it was TB was on there 3rx kicker this year.
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Kickers are weird - like hockey goalies - very streaky.
Problem is... I think the Vikings problem is Zim.
He don't understand 'em.
He don't like 'em.
He hasn't gotten one kicker to perform for him.
Good luck, Dan Bailey. Good luck, Brentt Tressler.
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Bailey got a pretty nice deal after his 2019 season. They'll most likely cut him or get him to renegotiate his contract & let them go to camp to compete for the job IMO.
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I think that we need to either keep Zim as far away from the kicker or he has to change the way he sees them if we are ever going to have a good one. Bailey is the deal right now and maybe for a few years if Zim doesn't ruin him with his mind games.
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Just a thought...
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Ain't that the truth. LOL I see we signed a new kicker. I think Bailey may be going down the road.
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Ain't that the truth. LOL I see we signed a new kicker. I think Bailey may be going down the road.
yep.... new kicker....cheaper.
just read that this. JJ Watt and the Houston Texans are parting ways........ things must be a real big mess with that team!!!!! :rolleyes:
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It may be fun to have him here for his last surge!
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I saw one article that said a likely landing spot for JJ would be Rams because of Stafford leading them to the promised land.
But I say...
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He's made his money. Will he come home to Wisconsin?
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He's made his money. Will he come home to Wisconsin?
I was going to give you some grief, but then I remembered your team went to the NFC Championship Game and ours went on vacation early. :doah:
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Kinda new this was coming but the Vikings just released Kyle Rudolff. :pouty: :pouty:
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Ya saw that. Great guy but saw it coming also. We need cash badly.
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https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-minnesota-vikings-kyle-rudolph-football-nfl?fbclid=IwAR1elUCvkraCg67y-RjguE
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https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/dear-minnesota-vikings-kyle-rudolph-football-nfl?fbclid=IwAR1elUCvkraCg67y-RjguE
wow. Talking about taking the high road!!!👍👍 What a class act.
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Class act for sure. No whining or finger pointing. Pretty refreshing when you see all the other comments made by big name pros.
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That's a bummer. Definitely a class act for sure!! :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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I was hoping he would have been awarded NFL Man of the Year. I reckon that was too much to hope for.
Certainly there are many deserving players, but I'll bet the NFL likes to give those awards to high-profile players who are going to be playing for several more seasons.
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Back in 2018 hunter signed a 5 year 72 million $ deal with the Vikings. Now I see he isn't happy and wants more. :angry2: :angry2:. WTF. Is threatening to maybe hold out, demand a trade or sit out. Let the whiney jerk sig out and not collect a check. :confused: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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I am with holding judgement on this. Yes he is great? Like Sidney Rice why didn't he just say he needed surgery and get it instead of wasting a year of our time and his by waiting? Would maybe help his career instead of playing the waiting/ hostage game with the team.
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I see where they signed a FA DT of the Giants late yday. https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2021/03/15/vikings-are-signing-free-agent-dt-new-york-giants-dalvin-tomlinson-2021-free-agency/
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Seen something mentioned about starting talks to remake Thielen's deal to all signing bonus in order to create more cap space too.
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This is going to be an interesting free agency year with a smaller salary cap and lots of teams with quarterbacks making big money.
Some teams who think they might be a player or two away from a Superbowl might be willing to shell out big bucks for the top free agents, but everyone else if going to have to divvy up what is left over. I think there will be lots of quality starter "cap casualties" who will get cut and have to settle for less money elsewhere if they are too proud to accept less money from the team they are on.
Here are the 2021 Salary Cap Hits for the top QBs (NFL Salary Rankings/ (https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cap-hit/quarterback/))
1 Matt Ryan ATL $40,912,500
2 Aaron Rodgers GB $37,572,000
3 Russell Wilson SEA $32,000,000
4 Kirk Cousins MIN $31,000,000
5 Ryan Tannehill TEN $29,500,000
6 Jared Goff DET $27,825,000
7 Jimmy Garoppolo SF $26,400,000
8 Ben Roethlisberger PIT $25,910,000
9 Carson Wentz IND $25,400,000
10 Teddy Bridgewater CAR $22,953,125
11 Dak Prescott DAL $22,200,000
12 Derek Carr LV $22,125,000
13 Matthew Stafford LAR $20,000,000
14 Deshaun Watson HOU $15,940,000
15 Drew Brees NO $12,225,000
16 Marcus Mariota LV $10,725,000
17 Baker Mayfield CLE $10,569,130
18 Sam Darnold NYJ $9,794,271
19 Kyler Murray ARI $9,763,721
20 Tom Brady TB $9,075,000
21 Taysom Hill NO $8,410,200
22 Joe Burrow CIN $8,225,031
23 Patrick Mahomes KC $7,433,381
24 Case Keenum CLE $7,333,333
25 Daniel Jones NYG $7,189,288
26 Josh Allen BUF $6,910,057
27 Tua Tagovailoa MIA $6,880,781
28 Nick Foles CHI $6,666,666
29 Justin Herbert LAC $6,040,626
30 Cam Newton NE $5,423,525
31 Jeff Driskel DEN $3,250,000
32 Lamar Jackson BAL $3,013,708
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They made a big upgrade to their secondary late yday when they signed FA CB Patrick Peterson of the Cardinals IMO. https://www.bing.com/search?q=patrick+peterson&cvid=a7ee81ff73ce4d3ba523f1c40afed9f8&aqs=edge.3.0j69i57j69i60j0l3j69i60.6632j0j1
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:happy1: :happy1: i like it!! :happy1: heard they also signed this Beebe kid too!!!!!!! on the cheap!!!!
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I like Beebe so glad they kept him.
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I see Adam T. redid his contract for the vikes..
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I heard they might do that
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Kyle Rudolph got a 2 year deal with the Giants.
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Just read that myself.
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Now what they need is for Anthony Barr to have something left in the tank and for Danielle Hunter to play is tail off whether or not he gets his contract renegotiated/extended again. (He was off most of last year due to injury and still got paid.)
We've always realized Danielle Hunter has been playing on a team friendly deal, but with the salary cap down, this doesn't seem to be the best year for a money grab.
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Now what they need is for Anthony Barr to have something left in the tank and for Danielle Hunter to play is tail off whether or not he gets his contract renegotiated/extended again. (He was off most of last year due to injury and still got paid.)
We've always realized Danielle Hunter has been playing on a team friendly deal, but with the salary cap down, this doesn't seem to be the best year for a money grab.
:confused: :banghead: :banghead: whats wrong with the players and owners honoring the contracts/agreements both parties agreed to. :crazy: :pouty: :doofus:
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The young guy, ex-Ohio St, out in SD just signed a $135mil/5 year deal, almost double Hunter's. :crazy: I'm not saying he shouldn't honor the deal he has but I'm sure that didn't help any. Agents are greedy!!
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Agents are doing their jobs.
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Yes they are and they are doing a great job. Just like Cousins deal. Who can blame him if that is how much money he can get why not do it. But it is just a game. And it makes so much money they can afford to pay these guys like this. Boggles my mind.
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Reilly Reif signed with the Bengals. I think thats where he came to the Vikings from?
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The NBA is worse!! :crazy: Granted they don't have as many players on a team but there's a BUNCH of guys in the league now that are makin almost $50 mil/year on the max deals they sign, most of which are for 4-5 seasons. The guys comin off the bench & don't even play that many minutes are getting $10-$15 mil + a season. :doah:
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The NBA is to pro sports what the Gong show was to Mensa.
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Think I went into the wrong profession. :pouty: :pouty: :confused:
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:scratch: :doah: Yeah, I know!! ;) :rolleyes: That's why I've been tellin you for years you should've been a fertilizer salesman. :sleazy: :nerd: :nerd: :evil:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Ya it is mind blowing the amount of money that is thrown around. And we can't hardly afford to sit in the stadium and watch the game.
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The NBA is to pro sports what the Gong show was to Mensa.
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:scratch: :doah: Yeah, I know!! ;) :rolleyes: That's why I've been tellin you for years you should've been a fertilizer salesman. :sleazy: :nerd: :nerd: :evil:
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Hey Glenn, maybe you could sell some fertilizer to your buddy Kirk. Or at least learn from him how to sell it.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/19/kirk-cousins-makes-another-35-million-today/
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:confused: yea not bad for a days work oh and that gunner..... He's a bad influence. Pay no attention to him. :rotflmao:
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At the end of the 2022 season Kirk will have made $193.89 over the last 7 year period! Period!!!
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At the end of the 2022 season Kirk will have made $193.89 over the last 7 year period! Period!!!
Kirk also bet on himself while in Washington. He refused contracts and they kept franchise tagging him. Smart move. He is getting paid and his results aren't a whole lot worse than anybody not named Brady.
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I see the Vikes have been busy, not only signing some Cole guy but bringing in safety Xavier Woods from Dallas and bringing back MacKenzie Alexander.
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Had to look up this Cole guy, he was the starting center for the Cardinals but the Vikings say they want him to play guard. A 3rd round pick out of Michigan in 2018 that we only gave a 6th round pick for. :happy1: :cool:
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Feels like the D is going to be pretty solid! :happy1:
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I just read Jeff Gladney of the Vikings was arrested for some kind of family assault. Could get 2-10 Years if convicted. I'm betting see ya!
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Just read that too. WHY??? Just walk away from her. Get a new girlfriend whatever. Without football it is back to a regular job. That won't be much fun anymore for him.
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Signed a LB, Nick Vigil, from LAC today to a 1 year deal. He'll take Wilson's spot after he left as a FA.
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So what's it going to be in the draft this year?
First round 14th pick should be pretty good this year with 5 QBs projected to get picked ahead of the Vikes; that is like the 9th best non-QB in the draft. However, they don't have a second round pick and they have two huge needs - offensive tackle, but with Gladney gone, they need yet ANOTHER corner back. :angry:
Or do they take the best player available regardless of position?
Or does Trader Rick swap #14 for a couple of picks in the 2nd round?
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O-line. Keep drafting until you get it right. In todays game the offenses are going to score, your teams offense has to keep up.
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Heard talk of 'em trading up to get an OT. The new GM in Denver was Spielman's assistant last year & a trade with them would move us up to #9 where they could fill that spot. Northwestern & Oregon OT's both rated as plug & play, otherwise there's a OG from USC they might be interested in. Seen talk of a DE in the early rounds too. Seems like Spielman's strategy is usually to trade down for more picks later on rather than the other way around though.:confused:
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So what are the chances of Vikes taking Lance? Who do you think will be their first pick?
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He'll be gone before they have a pick, all the experts have the top QB's gone by ~ pick 10 or 12. The OL from USC is still pretty popular as their 1st rounder according to what I've seen lately. It starts Thursday!!
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You never know with Trader Rick. Like all GMs, his selections are miss and hit. But I think he generally does a good job of moving up and down the board.
And I don't study this stuff religiously, but it seems to me, Trader Rick was ahead of the pack when it came to the value of trading down. Now every GM wants to do it.
But then there was 2013 when Spielman traded up to take his 3rd player in the first round when Cordarrelle Patterson was available at pick #29. So Rick will move up too when it makes sense.
I can almost guarantee that they have contingency plans to jump up and take Lance if he falls far enough. The only question is, how far will Lance drop and how much capital is Trader Rick willing to spend to go up and get him. And certain there will be other GMs playing the same game.
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They are all pretty sharp guys even if they don't pick who we think they should I think. Looking forward to Thursday night. Looks like 7 pm our time.
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Zero chance Lance gets beyond 7. It's a feeding frenzy for quarterbacks every year. Queens will grab a linebacker or trade back.
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Zero chance Lance gets beyond 7. It's a feeding frenzy for quarterbacks every year. Queens will grab a linebacker or trade back.
I hope you are just joking about the linebacker prediction. ;)
The only way the Vikes can trade back is if there is someone very valuable available at 14 that the Vikes don't want. And that has to be balanced against the other side of the trade - do the Vikes still think they can get the guys they need if the trade back. :confused:
I gotta tell you though, there is nothing more disheartening than waiting for the Vike's 1st round pick - only to find out at the last minute that they traded it for a 2nd, a 4th, and a 6th rounder in 2022. :doah:
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You got that right SteveO. About 10 years ago one I decided to watch the draft for the first time. Had to wait a couple of hours it seems to get the Vikes pick. I waited and waited and then they traded their pick. I sat there all night for nothing. LOL BUT it wasn't funny then. :rotflmao:
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You must be talking about the 2010 draft. That is what I was complaining about in my rant. Here is what they said then. From Bleacher Report...
"Let me start by being blunt: this was a disappointing draft for the Minnesota Vikings...
When the Vikings traded out of the first round, it was a smart decision. The cornerbacks they were targeting were off the board, so it made sense to acquire more picks and see what fell to them in the second round.
However, the Vikings should have been more aggressive in the first place. Maurkice Pouncey is possibly the best center prospect in ten years. The Vikings could have traded up to get him but instead waited around to make just a decent pick.
There was a ton of buzz around Pouncey, especially with the Vikings and Steelers. The Vikings knew exactly what they needed to do to get him, which was trade ahead of the Steelers; big mistake to not pull the trigger there.
Pouncey would have turned that offensive line into the beast it once was with Matt Birk."
Two years later, in 2012, the Vikes drafted Matt Kalil in the 1st round (4th overall pick). He was good for a year, but pretty much a bust for the Vikes afterwards. And in all the years since, the Vikes still haven't figured out how to build a competitive offensive line.
P.S. Pouncy is still playing for Pittsburg!
:thumbs: :pouty: :crazy:
Fairness in savagery... Here are the notable names from the 2010 draft.
- Chris Cook, DB (2nd round)
- Toby Herhart, RB, (2nd round)
- Everson Griffen, DE (4th round!!!)
- Joe Webb, WR (6th round)
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That was probably it. They traded so I waited for their next pick and they traded again. It was late when I gave up and went to bed. LOL
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I always thought it would make a good book to write about each team's worst mistakes.
I'll bet every team's fan base feels pretty much the same way.
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I wondered why Khalil could get to the Pro Bowl his first year and then drop so much in quality after that? Too much time spent at his pizza place?
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Zero chance Lance gets beyond 7. It's a feeding frenzy for quarterbacks every year. Queens will grab a linebacker or trade back.
Heard 1 of ESPN's NFL people say that Lance could easily turn out to be the 1st or 2nd best QB in this draft with his skill set. Only havin 1 season of D1 football though makes him a bit of a risk.
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Zero chance Lance gets beyond 7. It's a feeding frenzy for quarterbacks every year. Queens will grab a linebacker or trade back.
Heard 1 of ESPN's NFL people say that Lance could easily turn out to be the 1st or 2nd best QB in this draft with his skill set. Only havin 1 season of D1 football though makes him a bit of a risk.
We will know for sure what the NFL thinks of him in a couple of days. He seems to have the talent & smarts to go in the top 7 so i'll stick with my prediction Vikings don't get him. Pretty cool that a Minnesota kid can be rated this highly.
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they had a nice segment on him last night on the #4 news. he sure seems like a good level headed kid!!!!!!!! and to go that high possibly in the draft from a small school like NDSU is pretty sweet also!!!! :happy1:
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Just read where it's Jones or him goin @ #3 to SF according to the new $ comin in to Vegas. :scratch: :confused:
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Man I am so excited about this draft. I think we made a haul of great talent. I just ran into this on KFAN and was able to copy it. This makes Stanley look pretty good too. This is the WR we drafted in the later rounds I think. This guy looks good. https://youtu.be/1pR7m07KLqA
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They all look pretty good on paper now. But, yeah... I'm optimistic. In theory they addressed a lot of need. They even signed a free-agent kicker without wasting a draft pick on one. :happy1: Now they just have to learn, gel, and perform.
The Pikers have issues with Baby Aaron pouting in Green Bay. :cry:
The Lions will always be the Lions until they prove otherwise. What do they think they can get done with Goff that they couldn't do with Stafford? :confused:
And 'der iz hope for 'da Bears, but weez don't know how long it will take for Fields to get 'dem playin' at a high level. :blues brothers:
But the real trick will be... can Zim take last year's worst defense and turn it into one of the best this year? - minus CB Jeff Gladney - last year's 1st round pick arrested this year on assault charges. :doah: (If he plays at all, it will only be after a lengthy suspension.)
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MEH.......all you negative nelly's....... :surrender: :pouty: i'm already planning a Vikings super bowl party!!!!!!! :sleazy: :happybounce: :nerd: :nerd: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Man I am so excited about this draft. I think we made a haul of great talent. I just ran into this on KFAN and was able to copy it. This makes Stanley look pretty good too. This is the WR we drafted in the later rounds I think. This guy looks good. https://youtu.be/1pR7m07KLqA
He's fast, got good hands, & good size. :scratch: I think the 2 OL will get minutes, maybe a lot, right from the start from what I've read. As will the DE from Pitt & wouldn't be surprised to see his teammate play quite a bit as well. The only 2 who'll sit a lot is the QB & LB. Here's the rest https://www.vikings.com/draft/2021/picks/all-picks
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MEH.......all you negative nelly's....... :surrender: :pouty: i'm already planning a Vikings super bowl party!!!!!!! :sleazy: :happybounce: :nerd: :nerd: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Well you might plan it but your wife will execute it. ;) Also be sure see uses neutral colors cuz the only way Purple is the color of choice will be if Baltimore makes it.
No faith in Spielman drafting wide receivers. One was a pot head, the other was blind and couldn't see the ball. We will see, like mentioned they all look good on paper. The question becomes can they and do they want to play.
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Ya mean like Justin Jefferson and Adam Theilen? Diggsy wasn't bad neither.
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MEH.......all you negative nelly's....... :surrender: :pouty: i'm already planning a Vikings super bowl party!!!!!!! :sleazy: :happybounce: :nerd: :nerd: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Well you might plan it but your wife will execute it. ;) Also be sure see uses neutral colors cuz the only way Purple is the color of choice will be if Baltimore makes it.
No faith in Spielman drafting wide receivers. One was a pot head, the other was blind and couldn't see the ball. We will see, like mentioned they all look good on paper. The question becomes can they and do they want to play.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: i usually do most of it anyway!!!!!!!!! :doah:
LPS wasnt Thelen a walk on???????????
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That may be. He may have just tried out on his own. That sounds familiar.
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Diggs was a 5th rounder too. :Clap: This guy & Jefferson can both play in the slot which they did a lot in college. :happy1: :cool:
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I really think that guy will fit right in with our program. I see Hughes probably won't get the fifth year deal. That is fine with me. I don't think his body can handle the NFL.
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The two big O line guys is great too! That may make Bradbury better too.
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Ya mean like Justin Jefferson and Adam Theilen? Diggsy wasn't bad neither.
Taking Jefferson was the same as taking Moss. A complete no brainer when the player fell to him.
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MEH.......all you negative nelly's....... :surrender: :pouty: i'm already planning a Vikings super bowl party!!!!!!! :sleazy: :happybounce: :nerd: :nerd: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
You just aren't saying what year you are planning it for. ;) :rotflmao:
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MEH.......all you negative nelly's....... :surrender: :pouty: i'm already planning a Vikings super bowl party!!!!!!! :sleazy: :happybounce: :nerd: :nerd: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
You just aren't saying what year you are planning it for. ;) :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: NO i didnt!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Ya mean like Justin Jefferson and Adam Theilen? Diggsy wasn't bad neither.
Taking Jefferson was the same as taking Moss. A complete no brainer when the player fell to him.
One big difference IMO, Moss fell to 'em because a lot of GM's didn't think he would be able to stay on the field because he would be either suspended or in jail. With Jefferson many questioned his ability to play the same position, slot WR, in the pros because he's not real fast. He's not as big, 6-1/ 200, as they like 'em in the NFL now either. :crazy:
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The two big O line guys is great too! That may make Bradbury better too.
Read somewhere that the G from Ohio St is a little ornery most of the time. He has a nasty mean streak & likes to end the play with his guy flat on his back. Both are 6'+, over 300#'s, & have long arms, which Zim really likes.
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Sounds like fun.. :sleazy:
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The Iowa WR is a good kick returner & the Iowa St RB is a good punt returner as well. I suspect they'll both get some minutes there 1st as our Special Teams haven't been very good the last couple seasons. :pouty:
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I see Burnsie passed away. Bummer...colorful guy, may he rest in peace.
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Ya Burnsie did well. Good guy! RIP Burnsie. I guess he had quite they vocabulary. LOL
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yup RIP.............
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RIP Burnsie! Yah he liked to speak a little french. ;)
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Another colorful :rolleyes: import from my side of the border. Always liked him as a coach cause you NEVER had to :scratch: what he was thinkin. ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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RIP Burnsie! Yah he liked to speak a little french. ;)
Burnsie UNCENSORED. One last time. NSFW. Classic. :mad1::happy1: :rotflmao:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNcBFZ26lcI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNcBFZ26lcI)
Rest in peace.
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seen a blurb on MSN, that some DE from washington, a kerrigan might sign with the vikings??????? a 10 year NFL player to help with hunter!! :scratch: :scratch:
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:scratch: :doah: This guy? https://sportsnaut.com/philadelphia-eagles-sign-ryan-kerrigan/ :doofus:
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:scratch: :doah: This guy? https://sportsnaut.com/philadelphia-eagles-sign-ryan-kerrigan/ :doofus:
:confused: :pouty: yea!!!!!!!!!
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I read where Hunter redid his contract and is supposed to be reporting to mini- camp.
Sounds like Sheldon Richardson us really close to coming back to Minnesota.
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Good news.
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Yes. Good news.
Between injuries, covid, and an inexperienced secondary - what they did last year on defense wasn't going to fly this year.
Still, Zim has a way of getting Spielman et al. to find/sign/resign guys he wants for his defense.
I'd sure like to see them pay this level of attention to the offensive line.
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Suddenly, the Minnesota Vikings are Super Bowl Contenders (https://vikingsterritory.com/2021/general-news/suddenly-the-minnesota-vikings-are-super-bowl-contenders)
4 reasons why the Vikings already have the best defense in the NFL (https://thevikingage.com/2021/06/15/4-reasons-minnesota-vikings-best-defense-nfl/)
- Experience
- Talent
- Depth
- Zim!
Cue the Gjallarhorn! Book your tickets for L.A.
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/XMpL4o4ZFMU_n6lGxpWt4WCuzHo=/0x0:4727x3151/1200x800/filters:focal(1986x1198:2742x1954)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/59932413/usa_today_10355235.0.jpg)
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll:
Just curious, did we get a new QB???
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:scratch: :happy1: I heard Peyton wants to come back! ;) How 'bout him ,glenn? :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: :happy1: I heard Peyton wants to come back! ;) How 'bout him ,glenn? :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:happy1: :happy1: be a vast improvement then what we currently have. :sleazy:
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:scratch: :happy1: I heard Peyton wants to come back! ;) How 'bout him ,glenn? :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:happy1: :happy1: be a cast improvement then what we currently have. :sleazy:
With our offensive line... :confused:
He must be anxious to follow in his father's footsteps. :doah:
Vikings QB Archie Manning recalls an unbearable night at Soldier Field (https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2019-09-10/tales-from-the-nfl-archie-manning-recalls-unbearable-night-at-soldier-field)
(https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/3521bf3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3018x2120+0+0/resize/840x590!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F6a%2Fa6%2Fd70ff4ba4182b408b7228811dc1b%2Fap-683378375861.jpg)
A team trainer attends to Archie Manning after the Minnesota Vikings quarterback was sacked during a game against the Chicago Bears on Oct. 28, 1984. Manning left the game after being sacked 11 times — a new Bears record.
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:scratch: :happy1: I heard Peyton wants to come back! ;) How 'bout him ,glenn? :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:happy1: :happy1: be a vast improvement then what we currently have. :sleazy:
:crazy: Must not of cleaned out all the MGL yet. :drinking: :sleazy: :nerd: :nerd: :evil:
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:scratch: :happy1: I heard Peyton wants to come back! ;) How 'bout him ,glenn? :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:happy1: :happy1: be a vast improvement then what we currently have. :sleazy:
:crazy: Must not of cleaned out all the MGL yet. :drinking: :sleazy: :nerd: :nerd: :evil:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: havent had one since saturday afternoon..........why do you think i waited until today to donate blood!!!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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i see where the vikings offensive line coach was fired because he refused to get the covid vacine.......... this could be an interesting season!!!!!!!!! :surrender: :scratch:
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Pro Football Focus listed the Vikes as being the most improved offensive line after the draft. But that ain't saying much because the Vikes were just the 26th best (or worst :scratch:) offensive line last year.
Question is, were they underperforming because of ex-coach Dennison or now will the be worse off because he is gone.
Time will tell.
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Fffd up is what it is.
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It is NFL policy not the teams. All coaches and management in contact with the team must have to shot. Because players are protected by their unions the league can't make them get the shots yet. Our players and there are some good ones, that haven't gotten the shot, Harrison Smith, Adam Theilen etc will have to wear masks and have to travel in different planes and busses from the rest of the team. They can't eat with the teams neither. Their choice and it is their choice to not have the shot will make things more difficult for them. Imagine if one of the 25% or so of them that chose to not get the shot got the bug and they all got it how it would effect the team. There are no more covid postponements. If you team gets it it is a loss for you. We all have the choice but also have to think about how your choice effects others around you. Especially when you are making a few million a year. It could also ruin other players futures too. So it is all up to each individual as to how to play the covid game too.
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So in a sense what they are saying is that the vaccine doesn't work. Because if a no vaccinated person gets covid then they will give it to the vaccinated teams members. Then what's the point of getting vaccinated. Just don't understand why there is such a push for those that don't want it to get it. This has just gotten all f$_&ked up!
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I think it is so the others that are not vaccinated don't get it.
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Looks like the Vikes are signing WR Westbrook. Hope it is a good fit.
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I think it is so the others that are not vaccinated don't get it.
from what i understand even if you are vacinated you can get the rona.....the symptoms arent supposed to be as bad. :scratch: :scratch:
i agree with JB, lets let people make there own decisions, but unfortunetly its not happening that way. :doah: sooner or later, somehow or another the powers to be will and are trying to force everyone to get it.
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Looks like the Vikes are signing WR Westbrook. Hope it is a good fit.
His position coach with the Jaguars, McCardell, is now the WR's coach with the Vikings & that's a big reason why he wanted to come here is what I just read. He's coming off a torn ACL injury too so I hope he's healthy.
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yea I'm hearing more and more places saying to work here you have to have the vaccine... yup we are a free society here!!
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I think it is so the others that are not vaccinated don't get it.
from what i understand even if you are vacinated you can get the rona.....the symptoms arent supposed to be as bad. :scratch: :scratch:
i agree with JB, lets let people make there own decisions, but unfortunetly its not happening that way. :doah: sooner or later, somehow or another the powers to be will and are trying to force everyone to get it.
The fact that it affects others is why they are trying to protect people by requiring it. AND it will affect the bottom line which is money for the NFL.
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Your last sentence nailed it IMO, LPS. It's really just Roger takin care of all his billionaire buddies. :rolleyes: :doah:
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So in a sense what they are saying is that the vaccine doesn't work. Because if a no vaccinated person gets covid then they will give it to the vaccinated teams members. Then what's the point of getting vaccinated. Just don't understand why there is such a push for those that don't want it to get it. This has just gotten all f$_&ked up!
Heard on the radio last night that one of the vaccines MAY require a third shot. Kinda reminds me of a rookie mechanic. "My truck won't run right, ok let change the plugs, I'm 99% sure that will fix it. If not we can do the fuel pump then the injectors. If that doesn't get you up and going I have a new crate motor in the back we will drop in."
I don't condemn anybody, 25 year old athletes or 75 year old geezers who doesn't want a shot that was rushed to market that may or may not be 100% effective & safe.
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Just read that when Carson Palmer wanted out of a situation he retired. His Rep was this Dunn guy. Now Dunn is Rodgers Rep. It also said Rodgers has one team in mind and it is the Broncos.
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So in a sense what they are saying is that the vaccine doesn't work. Because if a no vaccinated person gets covid then they will give it to the vaccinated teams members. Then what's the point of getting vaccinated. Just don't understand why there is such a push for those that don't want it to get it. This has just gotten all f$_&ked up!
Heard on the radio last night that one of the vaccines MAY require a third shot. Kinda reminds me of a rookie mechanic. "My truck won't run right, ok let change the plugs, I'm 99% sure that will fix it. If not we can do the fuel pump then the injectors. If that doesn't get you up and going I have a new crate motor in the back we will drop in."
I don't condemn anybody, 25 year old athletes or 75 year old geezers who doesn't want a shot that was rushed to market that may or may not be 100% effective & safe.
:tut: There isn't ANY vaccines that are 100% effective & safe. Never has been & never will be!! There will always be some with underlying health issues, known & unknown to even them perhaps, that have adverse reactions to certain medicines. Never been 1 that is 100% effective either, even my Shingles shot earlier this year was ONLY 96.8 % effective after the 2nd shot. It's still a free country, I think :scratch:, people can & will do what they wish.
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So in a sense what they are saying is that the vaccine doesn't work. Because if a no vaccinated person gets covid then they will give it to the vaccinated teams members. Then what's the point of getting vaccinated. Just don't understand why there is such a push for those that don't want it to get it. This has just gotten all f$_&ked up!
Heard on the radio last night that one of the vaccines MAY require a third shot. Kinda reminds me of a rookie mechanic. "My truck won't run right, ok let change the plugs, I'm 99% sure that will fix it. If not we can do the fuel pump then the injectors. If that doesn't get you up and going I have a new crate motor in the back we will drop in."
I don't condemn anybody, 25 year old athletes or 75 year old geezers who doesn't want a shot that was rushed to market that may or may not be 100% effective & safe.
:tut: There isn't ANY vaccines that are 100% effective & safe. Never has been & never will be!! There will always be some with underlying health issues, known & unknown to even them perhaps, that have adverse reactions to certain medicines. Never been 1 that is 100% effective either, even my Shingles shot earlier this year was ONLY 96.8 % effective after the 2nd shot. It's still a free country, I think :scratch:, people can & will do what they wish.
For now. But I don't think it is going to stay that way. The gubmint is going to force companies to make it mandatory at some point I think. Which will really get messed up then.
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think it was yesterday that i read that the Vikings cut there 6th round draft pick. an offensive linemen that was shot like 4 times this spring visiting his aunt.
happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time..........then gets cut!!!!!!!!!
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They needed to make room for the new wide receiver they signed.
I don't know if they picked him because the felt the gunshot wounds would affect his performance or they felt he didn't have a chance of making the team as a 6th rounder - or maybe both.
But at least this way, but cutting him early, he and his agent have a chance to find a new team for him.
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Since we don't have a Packers thread...
And I'm not saying we need one...
But since it does affect the Vikes...
Y'all have seen Aaron Rodgers is coming back for what looks to be one more year...
And one of the conditions was that they bring back Randal Cobb.
I'm sure there were some Vikes fans who would have just as soon seen Rodgers gone, but it looks like they are getting the band back together for one, "Last Dance"
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there might be issues with Cobb........its not a done deal as i believe he is signed and under contract with another team yet.
erin is just a diva, whiny little beeach. :pouty: yea seen it it takes up half the MSN page most days. they should of told him to pack sand and let him retire and not pay him.
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Yes, they probably should have.
And if it was two years ago, they might have.
But for the last two seasons the Packers had great play-off runs and Rodgers was league MVP last year. The Packer's "window" to win now is still open.
If all they need to do is to kiss Rodgers' :moon:, promise to trade him after next season, and acquire Cobb this year for one more legit shot at a superbowl...
Why not? :confused: They got nothing to lose.
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I am so looking forward to beating them this year. What a drama queen he is.
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Yes, they probably should have.
And if it was two years ago, they might have.
But for the last two seasons the Packers had great play-off runs and Rodgers was league MVP last year. The Packer's "window" to win now is still open.
If all they need to do is to kiss Rodgers' :moon:, promise to trade him after next season, and acquire Cobb this year for one more legit shot at a superbowl...
Why not? :confused: They got nothing to lose.
Like a store front in a bad neighborhood the Packers Super Bowl window has bars on the window by the name of Tom Brady.
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SO now the unvaccinated QB's which includes Cousins are quarantined I believe. They are trying out a St. Johns QB for the second time and everyone talks highly of him. Cousins hasn't revealed in the past if he got the shot or not. Now we know. What a joke that is. SO he could be out at any time because of it. Others too could take this team down because of it. Mond has been vaccinated too.
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SO now the unvaccinated QB's which includes Cousins are quarantined I believe. They are trying out a St. Johns QB for the second time and everyone talks highly of him. Cousins hasn't revealed in the past if he got the shot or not. Now we know. What a joke that is. SO he could be out at any time because of it. Others too could take this team down because of it. Mond has been vaccinated too.
i watched an interview on the news with Zimmer..........yea he's pretty disqusted with the players that arent vacinated.
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players and people in general too I'd say...
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Yeah. God forbid that we live in a society with the freedom to make choices for ourselves. :angry2:
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When their choices negatively effect a team of millionaires they may need to get in another line of work. Noone on the team gets paid if they have to cancel due to covid.
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My point is that the NFL didn't need to impose these :bs: rules to try and force people to do something that they don't want to do. Made it all thru all last season without a vaccine. All the players are young and healthy not a high risk group.
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They did have to reschedule some games because of it. To me it is not political at all. Just self preservation.
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They did have to reschedule some games because of it. To me it is not political at all. Just self preservation.
A letter to each player stating if they choose not to be vaccinated they will be put on the PUP (physically unable to perform) list until they are compliant or they are released. Many have performance clauses that require they are on the field. It now becomes their choice as to how much their contract means to them.
For the record......I don't care who plays or doesn't play. It's a game being played by people who have never worked a normal job a day in their life.
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they should take there contacts and divide that amount by the day they report to camp till end of season.......that cant play or practice for reasons they can control, they dont get paid those days!!!! it is obviously there choice to not get vacinated and i dont have issue with it but when it affects a franchise as a whole, well there needs to be accountability.
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they should take there contacts and divide that amount by the day they report to camp till end of season.......that cant play or practice for reasons they can control, they dont get paid those days!!!! it is obviously there choice to not get vacinated and i dont have issue with it but when it affects a franchise as a whole, well there needs to be accountability.
It's a union thingy. Remember those things?
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they should take there contacts and divide that amount by the day they report to camp till end of season.......that cant play or practice for reasons they can control, they dont get paid those days!!!! it is obviously there choice to not get vacinated and i dont have issue with it but when it affects a franchise as a whole, well there needs to be accountability.
It's a union thingy. Remember those things?
sure do, except in my union world those contracts where honored, not like some of these over paid babies.
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they should take there contacts and divide that amount by the day they report to camp till end of season.......that cant play or practice for reasons they can control, they dont get paid those days!!!! it is obviously there choice to not get vacinated and i dont have issue with it but when it affects a franchise as a whole, well there needs to be accountability.
It's a union thingy. Remember those things?
they should take there contacts and divide that amount by the day they report to camp till end of season.......that cant play or practice for reasons they can control, they dont get paid those days!!!! it is obviously there choice to not get vacinated and i dont have issue with it but when it affects a franchise as a whole, well there needs to be accountability.
It's a union thingy. Remember those things?
sure do, except in my union world those contracts where honored, not like some of these over paid babies.
The best ability to have when your making that kind of $ is AVAILABILTY! :doofus: :doah:
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They did have to reschedule some games because of it. To me it is not political at all. Just self preservation.
The new playoff structure along with the 17 game schedule makes rescheduling much more difficult, so they'll now forfeit that game. Only gonna cost 'em $50,825 on avg/per game, just pocket change for these guys. :doah: Or is it? :scratch:
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The Minnesota Vikings released cornerback Jeff Gladney on Tuesday following an indictment by a Dallas grand jury on a charge of felony assault connected to an April incident involving a 22-year-old woman.
"As we have previously said, we take these matters very seriously and condemn all forms of domestic violence," the Vikings said in a statement. "Due to the ongoing legal nature of this matter, we are unable to provide further comment."
Gladney, 24, turned himself in to Dallas police on April 5 on a warrant for family violence assault, a third-degree felony. He was charged by a grand jury on Thursday with family violence by impeding breath.
A woman identified as Jane Doe filed a civil lawsuit against Gladney on July 26, saying that Gladney physically assaulted, beat and held her against her will "for several hours" on April 1, then attempted to "bribe, threaten, blackmail and manipulate" her not to speak about the incident.
"Obviously, allegations like these are very disturbing and something that’s concerning to us as ownership and to our organization," team president Mark Wilf told reporters earlier Tuesday.
A native of New Boston, Texas, Gladney went to college at TCU in Fort Worth. He was drafted No. 31 by Minnesota in 2020.
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Heard about this when it happened but now after hearing some of the details it sounds worse IMO. :sad: Got to wonder what King Roger will have to say on it. :scratch:
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Assuming he is found guilty they will suspend him. Once he serves his time Jerry Jones will sign him as another rehab project.
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/us/kirk-cousins-holland-hospital-ends-sponsorship/index.html
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LOL and have you seen the interview with Kook yet? He says he may get a plexiglass enclosure to sit in whilst they have meetings. What an idiot. Hence the new name for him, now it is Kook Cousins. It fits him to a T.
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The ViQueens sure provide entertainment for me during football season!!!!! 23 years now a Bucs fan.......
:hubba:
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anybody gonna waste a nice day watching the Vikings today????? first preseason game. doubt i will.
its on the NFL channel.
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Actually forgot about it, lots of bikinis on the lake will do that.. :sleazy:
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Actually forgot about it, lots of bikinis on the lake will do that.. :sleazy:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: dirty old man. :tut: :rotflmao:
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Cant get tue channel
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last I heard they were behind, didn't watch it...
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They got whipped pretty bad. Listened to a little bit on the radio while working outside. Heard Zimmer’s half time interview. He sounded really grouchy. Responded to the questions by rattling off about 6 problems they had and ended with a crabby “other than that…….” Paul Allen said it was like “Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the play?”Didn’t really play any of the starters, at least not any of the skill positions or big names. Sounds like Bridgewater had a pretty good day.
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Browning didn't play very long. They said Mond would not be playing at all since he only had about 3 days of practice since he got Covid. Well they put him in and then the wifi started fading out at the campground so I want to see the second half replay.
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If you went out to your closest corn field and watched the corn grow in this heat it would be far more entertaining than anything you can see in a NFL pre-season money grab game.
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If you went out to your closest corn field and watched the corn grow in this heat it would be far more entertaining than anything you can see in a NFL pre-season money grab game.
Watch it and they will come...
(https://c.tenor.com/Mbbm2QjHh0EAAAAC/if-you.gif)
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:pouty: :pouty: i know its only preseason........but i cant watch the vikings anymore tonight.......... that browning kid as QB has a lot to be desired................
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I.watcjed for 10.minuets and couldnt belive that was the vikes....owait yes i did..
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Man, what doae it tell you wen they go 89 yrds and cant get it in....
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when i watched the news last night i was actually surprised of the final score.....28-25. but hen maybe KC played the cheerleaders at the end???????
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I almost gave up on them but at the end they were moving the ball pretty good. Sure hope Mond turns into a good QB so we can dump Quirk next year. I am so tired of his style of everything.
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Sure was fun watching Mahomes those first 2 series!!! Everything they teach you as a kid not to do he does and makes it look so easy
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They got lucky on thay last inyerception, prior to it theyove the ball 89 yrds and couldnt put it in when it matterd.
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Sure was fun watching Mahomes those first 2 series!!! Everything they teach you as a kid not to do he does and makes it look so easy
Ain't that the truth. *sigh* :pouty:
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K, so its Patriots news, but I'm goona put this one on the Vikings thread, cause it will probably end up fitting here.
The Patriots just released Cam Newton.
Mac Jones, who the Vikings could have drafted at 14, is now the Patriots starting QB. (You think that won't come back to haunt 'dem Viqueens? ) :scratch: I digress.
Still, the Vikes need a backup QB and Cam needs a job. Here we go. :bonk:
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Vikes need to pick up newton!
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Vikes need to pick up newton!
Potential for Vikings version of The Odd Couple...
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/KZygk9hmAF9va4CxEngEvKH2RrE=/0x25:600x425/1400x1050/filters:focal(0x25:600x425):format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/48525807/cousins.0.0.jpg)
(https://www.si.com/.image/ar_4:3%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200/MTY4MDA3Mzc3MTEwOTAyMDMz/cam-newton_4jpg.jpg)
I do like the idea of having someone behind Kirk who will push him.
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"The Minnesota Vikings got some unfortunate news after hearing about the injury of starting tight end Irv Smith Jr., who is expected to be out for quite some time. Well, the Vikings did something to address that on Tuesday."
Jets trade Chris Herndon to Vikings after Irv Smith Jr. injury/ (https://clutchpoints.com/vikings-news-jets-trade-chris-herndon-to-vikings-after-irv-smith-jr-injury/)
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Cam can't play, he's done.
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they traded for a tight end today..
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Cam can't play, he's done.
I tend to agree with that. He looked really good the first few years, and well into the middle of his career. I think those days are behind him. Aside from that, I really don’t like his attitude. Sore loser and showboat winner.
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This team has zero depth and we know who is getting the lion's share of the salary cap.
if Zim/Spielman retain their jobs going forward, I hope they have learned their lesson for paying top dollar for the best free agent available. That seems to be an obsolete formula for winning.
But what do I know. :confused:
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There aren't very many Vikes fans that would like Cam on our team..
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Lol i know, i said that cause vikes always pick up the left overs of something that coulda been or once was
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There aren't very many Vikes fans that would like Cam on our team..
I would be one of those people.
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they traded for a tight end today..
Seen that comin as soon as I heard Irv Smith needed surgery & would be out at least 6-8 weeks.
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There aren't very many Vikes fans that would like Cam on our team..
I would be one of those people.
#MeToo
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I see they signed Sean Mannion again & placed him on the practice squad. Picked up a TE on waivers from Jax who is from Hawley Mn :cool: & played for NDSU too.
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https://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/shrimpandgrits/
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Heading into the season, I find myself feeling the way I have felt about the Vikes since I-don't-know-when. Sure, they've been in and out of the playoffs and even caught lightening in a bottle a couple of times (once with Favre and once with Keenum), but other than that its been a crap shoot to see if they were a winning team or not.
Cousins has not proved to be the difference maker in much the same way Herschel Walker was not - but each crippled the organization in different ways: Walker by trading draft picks* and Cousins by taking up too much of the salary cap** to allow for depth at important positions: O-line, linebacker, receiver, secondary.
They might be good and I'll be happy for them and enjoy their success, but I just can't feel optimistic based on what I know about their recent track record, pre-season performance, draft pick misses/busts, and slew of injuries before this season starts.
Good luck.
* Some salt in an old wound... Vikes gave up 4 players and 8 draft picks (3 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, and 1 6th) to the Cowboys to get Walker. :doah:
** Veteran QBs cost a lot of money and the Vikes were stacked when they bought Cousins. But when you pay that much for a QB, you expect him to win some games that you don't deserve to win. Cousins hasn't been that guy for us yet.
How do you guys feel? :confused:
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Pretty much the same Steve0. Been a die hard fan for many years. I try to be optimistic but as I get older it is harder to have the blind faith with the Vikes. Seems like we have a close season with great chemistry but just don't get over the hump. I don't see or feel any great chemistry this year. I truly feel the vac vs. the non vac is going to be a big split in who feels connected to each other as a team. I will still watch and hope nothing but the best for them. Cousins is also a bore and I don't think he gives anyone any good vibes. I would say he is the complete opposite of a Favre that everyone on the team loved to play with.
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Won't matter to me if they go undefeated or winless.
Pro foot ball occupies less & less of my time every year.
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Same here. :pouty: They have wrecked it for me.
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:pouty: :pouty: i sure wish the Vikings would have a QB like the 2 i watched last night!!!!!!!!! :doah: :pouty: both Brady and Prescott drove down the field to be able to put points on the board to take the lead in the last few minutes of the game!!!!!!!
as usually Brady comes out on top though!!!!!!
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Same here Glenn. Some fire and pizzaz is what makes things happen. Not Quirk and his 10 minute time table for his daily format.
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:cheerleader:
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:cheerleader:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: i was wondering how long that take!!!!!!!! :bonk: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:cheerleader:
Not exactly a TB fan but I am a HUGE fan of whoever is playing JJ's team! ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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Twins have below average pitching and people complain.
Vikings have above average quarterback and people complain.
Guy hung with a new rope didn't complain at all.
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:rotflmao: :sleazy: I won't disagree with you Dutchy that he might be "above average", BUT he can't get it done when it needs to be.
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Facts are the GM & coach are married to this guy whether he is good or bad. Seems to me if I recall right be threw for a basketful of yards and his TD to Interception ratio was pretty good also.
My old mind seems to recall the defense and special teams being like swiss cheese last year and the offense being pretty good.
You all might need to come up with a different patsy for the failings of this team. Blaming him for all the problems is like blaming the fat kid for all the Twins problems. :smoking:
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:rotflmao: :sleazy: I won't disagree with you Dutchy that he might be "above average", BUT he can't get it done when it needs to be.
:scratch: Neither could the $400 mil man last year!! :bonk: :doah:
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Facts are the GM & coach are married to this guy whether he is good or bad. Seems to me if I recall right be threw for a basketful of yards and his TD to Interception ratio was pretty good also.
My old mind seems to recall the defense and special teams being like swiss cheese last year and the offense being pretty good.
You all might need to come up with a different patsy for the failings of this team. Blaming him for all the problems is like blaming the fat kid for all the Twins problems. :smoking:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: geez I wonder who that secret admirer of that fat kid is?? :scratch: :rotflmao:
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Facts are the GM & coach are married to this guy whether he is good or bad. Seems to me if I recall right be threw for a basketful of yards and his TD to Interception ratio was pretty good also.
My old mind seems to recall the defense and special teams being like swiss cheese last year and the offense being pretty good.
You all might need to come up with a different patsy for the failings of this team. Blaming him for all the problems is like blaming the fat kid for all the Twins problems. :smoking:
I thing the sports columnists and analysts would agree that Kirk Cousins was NOT the Vikings biggest problem last year - not even close.
But I also think they would be in universal agreement, that if you needed a QB to lead the team down the field 70 yards, with one timeout and 1:30 left in the game - Kaptain Kirk would be way down on the list of QBs you'd want to hand the ball to. And we saw a prime example of that with Dak and Brady last night.
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The O line has been terrible since Cousins got here, maybe even before. :pouty: That's 1 of the reasons Keenum had such a good last season IMO, he could throw really good while he was running for his life. :scratch: Cousins, not so much. :tut:
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:cheerleader:
Not exactly a TB fan but I am a HUGE fan of whoever is playing JJ's team! ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
Me to Gunner.....the only team I hate more than the Cowpies is GB. I was in the stands for the playoff game where Drew Pearson pushed off to get a TD and win the playoff game. At the old Met Stadium.
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Yup, & #43......................Nate Wright was the victim!! Haven't liked the Cowboys since but seein how JJ treated Tom Landry :sad: kicked it up a notch for me. :angry2:
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Well that was some national anthem. :USA: :USA
Now it's time to watch cousins fumble on the first snap. Or throw a pick!!!🥴 :rotflmao: :rotflmao::
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:pouty: gawd I can't watch this anymore :doofus: besides it's to nice out side to be indoors.
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Big baby...
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Facts are the GM & coach are married to this guy whether he is good or bad. Seems to me if I recall right be threw for a basketful of yards and his TD to Interception ratio was pretty good also.
My old mind seems to recall the defense and special teams being like swiss cheese last year and the offense being pretty good.
You all might need to come up with a different patsy for the failings of this team. Blaming him for all the problems is like blaming the fat kid for all the Twins problems. :smoking:
I thing the sports columnists and analysts would agree that Kirk Cousins was NOT the Vikings biggest problem last year - not even close.
But I also think they would be in universal agreement, that if you needed a QB to lead the team down the field 70 yards, with one timeout and 1:30 left in the game - Kaptain Kirk would be way down on the list of QBs you'd want to hand the ball to. And we saw a prime example of that with Dak and Brady last night.
I'll eat my hat.
Congrats to Kap'n Kirk for driving down for the field goal to tie the game in the final two minutes.
Now if they wouldn't continue to waste 5 or 6 downs a drive by sending Dalvin Cook straight up the gut, they might score some more TDs.
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In case you miss this...
Vikings 2018 5th round draft pick and ex-kicker, Daniel Carlson, kicked a game-tying 55 yard field goal for the Raiders in the closing seconds to send the game to overtime.
We must not have needed him, because we released him for nothing. :doah:
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In case you miss this...
Vikings 2018 5th round draft pick and ex-kicker, Daniel Carlson, kicked a game-tying 55 yard field goal for the Raiders in the closing seconds to send the game to overtime.
We must not have needed him, because we released him for nothing. :doah:
Yes isn't that special. We blew that! I like the new guy but should have kept Carlson.
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In case you miss this...
Vikings 2018 5th round draft pick and ex-kicker, Daniel Carlson, kicked a game-tying 55 yard field goal for the Raiders in the closing seconds to send the game to overtime.
We must not have needed him, because we released him for nothing. :doah:
Yes isn't that special. We blew that! I like the new guy but should have kept Carlson.
No, Zim blew that with his inability to care about or deal with special teams players.
I can't imagine Spielman for Ziggy saying, "Carlson missed those kicks, cut the S.O.B!"
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Exactly!
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There will be talk all season about whether or not Zim and/or Spielman should be fired if they don't do well in the play-offs this year.
Both have hits and misses. We've talked about most of them.
MAYBE the Vikes let the next great NFL head coach (Stefanski) walk out the door (following in the footsteps of Dungy and Tomlinson).
MAYBE the Vikes are stuck with an inexperienced understudy (K. Kubiak), who just isn't up to the task (following in the footsteps of Mike Tice, Brad Childress and Leslie Fraizer).
I ain't saying that if the Vikes don't go to the Superbowl that Zim and Spielman have to go, but if this team continues to underwhelm, it might be time to try a fresh, non-defense-first approach.
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Can't agree more. Too bad they let Stephanski go. Seems like he was the one that knew what to do. I have stood by Zim whilst he learned the ropes and made some gametime mistakes. But now I wonder. He asked for bigger O linemen and got Bradbury who is a little guy for a center. Not what he asked for and he was a first round pick. We were tough when we had huge Loadholt as center. I think that is the first key to a good O line. A big tough center. This season will tell the tale. I don't see too much to look forward to. I don't think Zim is a Cousins fan neither and he just got stuck with him. Both of those things are Spielmans fault.
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There is a shelf life on coaches & GM's. Spielman & Zimmers time have come to move along. It's a rinse and repeat league so both would land on their feet again.
Zim has done nothing. Beat GB rarely, lose to Detroit occasionally (who does that!) and gets out coached and played in Chicago.
He hasn't earned the right to struggle year after year. The North isn't that tough.
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The only problem is... who do you replace them with? :confused:
Granted there have been different owner over the life of the franchise, but collectively they don't have a spotless record in hiring GMs and coaches.
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The only problem is... who do you replace them with? :confused:
Granted there have been different owner over the life of the franchise, but collectively they don't have a spotless record in hiring GMs and coaches.
Depends on where you want the franchise to go. These days the coaches select their own GM but, if it's a college coach than I want a veteran NFL guy as GM.
What will they do with Cousins? His deal is up soon, will they resign him or grab a college kid or try getting a established veteran off another team. All things ownership would need to consider.
Personally I would want McDaniel from the Patriots as coach. His problem in Denver wasn't that he can't coach, it was the ownership didn't back him up when veteran players had to go. If you look closely at the Patriots they seldom get blown out. The offense always is in the game even with lesser quality players.
Zim is a nice enough guy but he hasn't shown the ability to take them over the top. Very similar to the guy in Cincinnati Zim learned under.
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Zim's a dead fish, with no personality on camera what so ever. I can't Imagine he makes the locker room come alive either. :rolleyes:
Even my wife who knows nothing much about the Vikings other then they keep losing and have not won a Super bowl, keeps asking.
"When are they going to fire that coach and get a new one?" :confused: Even she can see that! :rotflmao:
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Zim's a dead fish, with no personality on camera what so ever. I can't Imagine he makes the locker room come alive either. :rolleyes:
You be the judge. (Do watch the first video back when he was with the Bengals.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFsyKMLQ_Tw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFsyKMLQ_Tw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFbSa1EqHPo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFbSa1EqHPo)
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Zim's a dead fish, with no personality on camera what so ever. I can't Imagine he makes the locker room come alive either. :rolleyes:
Even my wife who knows nothing much about the Vikings other then they keep losing and have not won a Super bowl, keeps asking.
"When are they going to fire that coach and get a new one?" :confused: Even she can see that! :rotflmao:
I've been hearing that from ViQueens fans since about 1973 or so.....that's why I had to finally take my leave of 'em in 1999, along with three of their best players, after I couldn't handle Dennis-the-dork Green anymore.....and followed them down to Tampa. :moon:
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Zim's a dead fish, with no personality on camera what so ever. I can't Imagine he makes the locker room come alive either. :rolleyes:
You be the judge.
It's time to send a message! :rotflmao:
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Vikings’ Mike Zimmer Gets Brutally Honest About Job Security (https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/mike-zimmer-hot-seat-nfl-news/)
“I think if you polled all the offensive coaches in the league, they would say that I’m still ahead of the curve,” Zimmer said. “They would tell you how much they respect me. So I don’t worry about all that. The fans can say all that stuff they want, but the people who know, they know.”
Zimmer admitted to feeling the pressure to make the playoffs this season, but it’s akin to any other year.
“I feel pressure every year, so I don’t look at it like I’m coaching for my job,” Zimmer said. “I’m going to put my resume out there on the field just like the players. And if people don’t think I’m good enough to do it, so be it. Somebody else does.”
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For the record, I don't care if he is the coach or if they poach Mike Grant from Eden Prairie.
I can't afford to go to a Vikings game nor would I ever want to. I enjoy watching the occasional game but if there is a good rerun of Boston Legal on TV I would watch that first. Sports mean less and less to me as every year fly's by, which is sad because I use to be a big sports fan for everything except basketball & soccer.
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Zim's a dead fish, with no personality on camera what so ever. I can't Imagine he makes the locker room come alive either. :rolleyes:
Even my wife who knows nothing much about the Vikings other then they keep losing and have not won a Super bowl, keeps asking.
"When are they going to fire that coach and get a new one?" :confused: Even she can see that! :rotflmao:
:scratch: He must be doing somethin right ;) :laugh: :laugh: https://www.totalprosports.com/2021/08/24/mike-zimmer-girlfriend-katarina-elizabeth-nfl-news/ A local girl too, well Duluth, could be dangerous though as she went to school at Northwestern. :scratch: :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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She's a hottie for sure.
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She's a hottie for sure.
:scratch: He's 64 & she's 37!! :crazy: :sleazy:
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mail order bride from Russia!!! just sayin..... :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Hope he keeps his finances under control.
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A hottie for sure. :happy1:
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mail order bride from Russia!!! just sayin..... :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Call 1 800 HOT1- NYET! :rotflmao:
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She's a hottie for sure.
:scratch: He's 64 & she's 37!! :crazy: :sleazy:
He's rich, she isn't.
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Shades of Anna Nicole and J Howard Marshall!!!!!!! :shocked:
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Yea I thought I was marrying into money too!!🥴🥴 :confused: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :rotflmao:
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She's a hottie for sure.
:scratch: He's 64 & she's 37!! :crazy: :sleazy:
He's rich, she isn't.
:scratch: Worth over a 1/2 mil $ that's not exactly poor in my book :crazy:, especially at that age. :confused:
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Isn't that about what those retired Union guys make? :scratch:
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Isn't that about what those retired Union guys make? :scratch:
:tut: :tut: ain't me, might be the top dogs though. :confused:
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How bout them Vikings. training-087 training-087 :banghead: :banghead: :confused: :doofus:
Beyond me how a guy can kick 2 - 52 yard field goals yet miss an extra point and chip shot field goal. :confused: :pouty: :pouty:
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How bout them Vikings. training-087 training-087 :banghead: :banghead: :confused: :doofus:
Beyond me how a guy can kick 2 - 52 yard field goals yet miss an extra point and chip shot field goal. :confused: :pouty: :pouty:
:scratch: You ever hear of Murphy & his law? :rolleyes: :confused: He's been a longtime caretaker :banghead: :bonk: of the Vikings in my book! :pouty: :doah:
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The team looked great!!
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I was fishin' so I missed the game. Again I only got to listen to the first part of the 1st quarter on the radio.
Sadly, I did watch the Chiefs/Ravens game last night, which reminded me of the Raiders/Ravens last week.
Why can't the Vikes do that?
Why can't they turn 4 yard dump passes into 45 yard touchdowns?
I know they are only two play away from being 2-0 instead of 0-2, but they are missing something: energy, confidence, and swagger. When you watch Chiefs, Raven, Raiders, Bucs, etc. you see those things.
I don't know who carries the blame for the lack thereof on the Vikes, but that is what will take them from looking great to being great.
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No Respect: Kirk Cousins is the NFL Rodney Dangerfield (https://vikingsterritory.com/2021/general-news/no-respect-kirk-cousins-is-the-nfl-rodney-dangerfield)
Kirk Cousins is on an absolute tear right now. In fact, he has been on this tear for the entire length of a 17-game football season. Cousins currently ranks second all-time in consecutive games with a quarterback rating above 90+ (17 games), ranking only behind Peyton Manning (23 games).
So far this season Cousins has accumulated the following stat line:
- 918 pass yards
- 8 touchdowns
- 0 interceptions
- 118.3 passer rating through three games
- 73.9 completion percentage
- 0 lost fumbles (something that has troubled him in the past).
By comparison, let’s see how Cousins stacks up against his peers.
- 7th in pass yards
- 4th in touchdowns
- 4th in passer rating (minus guys with only 1 pass attempt)
- 4th in completion percentage (minus guys with only 1 pass attempt)
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I have not been a big fan of him but he has been doing good. Now if the D can keep it up we may have something here.
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:scratch: :confused: Thought glenn would've liked your last post by now Steve-o. :nerd: :shocked: ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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:scratch: :confused: Thought glenn would've liked your last post by now Steve-o. :nerd: :shocked: ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
:tut: :tut: :tut: :tut:
he aint in 1rst place in any category, so..........................................
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:tut: :doah: If he was he'd be getting paid like Russel Wilson or Mahomes. You could then probably say goodbye to Harrison Smith, Hunter, Kendricks, Barr, Cook, & just about anyone else who's any good too!! :crazy: :pouty: :confused:
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Glenn, you might be able to trade him to Buffalo for Trubisky.....oh wait, the money won't work there. :tut:
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This is WAY too much data for a post, but it is fun to scroll down and see which quarterbacks are making what money and figure out why it is the way it is.
These salaries are for this year only. I have no clue what the cap hits are. But Patrick Mahomes and John Allen are making $13M and $10M MORE than Cousins this year. I wonder how long teams like the Chiefs and Bills can stay relevant when they have at least $10M less to spend on other players compared to most other teams.
It still seems the best formula is to bottom out, draft a QB with a high pick, pray he isn't an over-hyped bust (historically its a 50-50 shot), and hope that he gets really good before his rookie contract runs out.
And outside of quarterbacks who are vastly outperforming their rookie contracts (Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, Justin Herbert, etc.) AND Tom Brady, is there anyone on the list below Kirk Cousins who you would rather see as the Vikings QB right now?
(You might be able to cherry pick a couple of names, but there aren't many - at least they way I see things.)
Who ya thinkin? :confused: Gimme some names. :cool:
Patrick Mahomes $45,000,000
Josh Allen $43,000,000
Dak Prescott $40,000,000
Deshaun Watson $39,000,000
Russell Wilson $35,000,000
Jared Goff $33,500,000
Aaron Rodgers $33,500,000
Kirk Cousins $33,000,000
Carson Wentz $32,000,000
Matt Ryan $30,000,000
Ryan Tannehill $29,500,000
Jimmy Garoppolo $27,500,000
Matt Stafford $27,000,000
Derek Carr $25,005,000
Tom Brady $25,000,000
Ben Roethlisberger $14,000,000
Teddy Bridgewater $11,500,000
Taysom Hill $10,500,000
Andy Dalton $10,000,000
Ryan Fitzpatrick $10,000,000
Trevor Lawrence $9,198,372
Joe Burrow $9,047,534
Kyler Murray $8,789,661
Zach Wilson $8,787,695
Trey Lance $8,526,315
Baker Mayfield $8,170,745
Nick Foles $8,000,000
Tua Tagovailoa $7,568,859
Sam Darnold $7,561,924
Justin Herbert $6,644,689
Daniel Jones $6,416,014
Case Keenum $6,000,000
Tyrod Taylor $5,500,000
Jameis Winston $5,500,000
Jacoby Brissett $5,000,000
Mason Rudolph $4,985,199
Justin Fields $4,717,988
Mac Jones $3,896,585
Joe Flacco $3,500,000
Marcus Mariota $3,500,000
Jordan Love $3,095,868
C.J. Beathard $2,500,000
Mitchell Trubisky $2,500,000
Tim Boyle $2,400,000
Taylor Heinicke $2,375,000
Lamar Jackson $2,367,913
Blaine Gabbert $2,000,000
Drew Lock $1,752,705
Chad Henne $1,625,000
Jalen Hurts $1,506,294
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:pouty: :pouty: and to think I wanted to be a union thug!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :rotflmao:
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I've always been curious about Garappalo.
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Great read Steve o, some big names even on the bottom of the list. Is that the Love fella on green bays roster?? Making that kinda money doing zip??
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Great read Steve o, some big names even on the bottom of the list. Is that the Love fella on green bays roster?? Making that kinda money doing zip??
Yeah, those QBs-in-waiting will make more money holding a clipboard in one year than most of us will in a lifetime. Its all Monopoly money for professional athletes.
And that isn't exactly the bottom of the list. I didn't include all the backups and third stringers. Here are some other names we might recognize.
Mike Glennon $1,375,000
Kellen Mond $1,305,853
Geno Smith $1,212,500
A.J. McCarron $1,212,500
Colt McCoy $1,212,500
Chase Daniel $1,075,000
Brian Hoyer $1,075,000
Sean Mannion $990,000
Josh Rosen $850,000
Jake Browning $165,600
Kyle Sloter $165,600
A few of these guys were supposed to be "Franchise Quarterbacks" a couple years back. And now they are "barely hanging on" making around $1M each.
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Yup very interesting. That's a lot of QB's.
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:scratch: Well, this https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/29/report-tom-brady-restructures-contract/ has a lot to do with this https://sports.nbcsports.com/2021/02/07/quarterbacks-with-the-most-super-bowl-wins/ IMO.
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Throughout history there are some mediocre quarterbacks who have won a Super Bowl or been considered a top tier quarterback. They all have a couple of things in common, they have good offensive lines, they don't throw interceptions, they have defenses that can bail them out of mistakes.
Cousins isn't great, bit he isn't the worse thing here i've watched in the last 50 years.
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:scratch: Would've like to have seen what difference a healthy Cook & Pierce made, if any. :pouty:
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I don't remember all the plays they ran after Cook came back into the game at the end, but I assumed one of his primary responsibilities was going to be picking up the blitz - cause the dude can block and is willing to do it.
And they better figure out how to stop the blitz, cause now teams have a book on how to de-horn Kapt. Kirk.
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He was screaming like a girl after the first quarter. And noone talks to him on the bench. They know he is shell shocked. No camaraderie there that I have ever seen.
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:scratch: I thought the announcers said that they didn't hardly need to blitz at all because they got that good of pressure with just their front 4. :rolleyes: A good run game would've slowed down that rush some with the play action plus if they'd had to blitz it would've created more single coverage on the the guys catching the ball. :pouty: Pierce is a stud at stopping the run game & will often get double teamed, he's also surprisingly good with the pass rush too for a really big guy(340#'s) because of his quickness. With Hunter & Griffen on the ends, at least in passing situations, they can't double team everybody.
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Yes, you are absolutely correct about the Browns not needing the blitz. Hopefully the Vikes won't face a defensive front 4 that is as good as them the rest of the way.
And it doesn't help that Christian Darrisaw has given them nothing. Or maybe it isn't Darrisaw's fault for being incurred. Maybe it is the front office's fault for not picking a player in the first round who is ready to contributed.
And the Vikes will forever be haunted by the fact that we could have had Patriots starting quarterback, Mac Jones. :doah: After they dump Kapt. Kirk, they will be back to square one looking for stop-gap quarterbacks to bridge from one season to the next - trying to catch lightening in a bottle.
Unless lightening does strike twice and the Vikings can lure Aaron Rodgers to follow in the footsteps of his predecessor, ol' Number 4!
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I agree SteveO. We have gained almost nothing for our future. So many of our players are about done too. Including Barr, Smith, etc. Then what? No QB in sight for us at this point unless Mond surprises me.
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Everything will get swept clean when they decide not to resign Cousins. At that time a new coach, new GM & new promises will be brought in.
Results won't change but the names of those who blame will.
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Since when did NFL Quarterbacks become such snowflakes that they melt when an organization selects another QB high in the draft?
So much so that GMs are reluctant to do it?
It is clear that Spielman and Zim had a win-now philosophy going into this draft - because if they didn't win, they were going to be gone next year. They know they need a QB in a year or two, but they kicked that can down the road again.
What happens when you draft for need in the first round instead of taking the best player available? You miss out in the long run.
Unless Darrisaw starts playing and saves the season, Spielman and Zim will have screwed the pooch again with the offensive line and missed out on a guy who might be a very good starting Quarterback, who will be dirt-cheap for the next 5 years. :doah:
But from where things are right now, and where they seem to be heading, wouldn't you rather have Mac Jones waiting in the wings for this season, dump Cousins next year, and then start rebuilding your offensive line (again) and replace you aging defensive starters with younger players? :confused:
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Absolutely. Who is the boss, the Coach or the QB? If you don't like the new guy waiting to take your job you better step up to the plate and do your job. And yes Darrisaw better get his azz in line. Barr is a pansy too.
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:scratch: What has haunted the Vikings FOREVER is the dumbest trade in the history of the league in 1989. :doah: How many QB's, GM's, & HC's have there been since then? :rolleyes: Same team, same draft day philosophy, same results no matter who's calling the shots. :crazy: :pouty: :doah:
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I think it's fair to hold them accountable. How many times has this roster turned over since they got here. I think a guy tossing darts at a board can do as well as Spielman's drafting. Zimmer I could care less about. He isn't that great but who out there would be better?
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I agree, no sense in bringing up the past. This regime has been here long enough to rid of the past stigma.
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I agree, no sense in bringing up the past. This regime has been here long enough to rid of the past stigma.
:tut: Exactly my point, they've had 7 GMs & 6 HCs since & they couldn't get it done either so it's just wash, rinse, & repeat!! :crazy: :pouty: Besides Zygi & Mark still have veto power, especially on draft day, don't they? :scratch: :confused:
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Being an NFL owner is like being king of the team. I think the Wilfs are smart enough to know they aren't football savants.
I would love to see report cards from all the other GMs around the league in terms of draft mistakes and free-agent signings that didn't work out.
I'll be most GMs are 50/50 hits and misses. But its like blackjack, if you can string some good hands together, you have a good night. In Football, if you can hit on draft pics that pan out for a few years running, free agents earn what you pay then, avoid injuries, and with a little extra good luck, you'll have a some good playoff runs. But for everyone else, you going to be stuck in the middle or the bottom.
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It's my belief that most years if you draft later then 10 it's a crap shoot. Very good scouting departments and development coaches can get a guy in later rounds thats as good as a mid to late first round guy. Every once in a while you have a real strong draft class that the top guys are available in the mid teens but not that often. Spielman is excellent at piling up picks, I just don't know how good he is at recognizing and selecting players. Maybe it's Zim who actually makes the pick? IDK. Here is what we do know......the Vikings have done nothing to close the gap between them and Green Bay while Chicago keeps nipping along. Can you imagine if Detroit was ever any good?
Broom them both out. There really isn't much difference between being 8-9 and 10-7 as far as draft picks go. Steckle is retired I think so how much worse can we really do?
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This Detroit game is going to be paramount. I was thinking of who we could even get for a new coach????? I wonder if Josh McDaniels would be interested? I don't want a college coach but Jim Harbaugh may not be a bad choice if he was interested in getting back in the big leagues. To just replace with no one better will just be many more years wasted. And when they kick Zim and Spielman to the curb they better take Quirk with them.
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I don't want a college coach but Jim Harbaugh may not be a bad choice ...
(https://i.giphy.com/media/3o7btT1T9qpQZWhNlK/giphy.gif)
;)
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Ya that may have been a reach. Actually I should kick my own ass for thinking of Jim. I think John was the nicer brother.
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Bring Burnsie back!!!👍 :rotflmao:
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Bring Burnsie back!!!👍 :rotflmao:
:scratch: :doah: :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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Bring Burnsie back!!! :rotflmao:
:scratch: :doah: :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
:cry:
Legendary Minnesota Vikings coach Jerry Burns dies at 94 (https://www.kare11.com/article/sports/nfl/vikings/legendary-vikings-coach-jerry-burns-dies/89-932b2c96-a9bf-4ef1-ad2a-8304af6a1e2a)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNcBFZ26lcI
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1: Good ol Burnsie.
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damn penalties are going to kill the vikings!!!!!!! :confused: :doofus: :crazy: sheez!!!!!!!!
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:angry2: :angry2: :angry2: training-087 training-087 :banghead: training-087 training-087 :banghead: :banghead: i cant believe this f@#$%^&*() football team!!!!!!!
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:crazy: :crazy: :pouty: :pouty: who woulda thunk it!!!!!!!!! :scratch: :crazy: :doofus: :doofus:
i still stand by my previous posts........ 3 possesions at the end and they run it up the middle 3times and punt........these coaches gotta go.......
at least the detroit HC had the balls to go for the kill with the 2 pt conversion..........
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Maybe take up knitting or sewing. Something less stressful you're gonna tip one of these days and this team isn't worth that. Maybe Timberwolves basketball. They are only going to win 10 games a year so you get to be happy 10 times and blah who the F cares the other what, 72 times a year?
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Maybe take up knitting or sewing. Something less stressful you're gonna tip one of these days and this team isn't worth that. Maybe Timberwolves basketball. They are only going to win 10 games a year so you get to be happy 10 times and blah who the F cares the other what, 72 times a year?
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: your right!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :happy1: pretty sure it wont be knitting or sewing though!!!!!!!!
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Yea something has to change, cusons was accurate as hell agai jefferson over a hu dy matthison over.a hundy, and only 1 touch down???? Who the hel is calling these plays?? They gota go!
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Gary Kubiak's son Klint is now the OC. That is a large part of the problem IMO, 6 different OCs in his 7 years at the helm. :pouty: :tut: Turner was 1st, then Shurmur, De Filippo, Stefanski, & now the 2 Kubiaks. :crazy: https://zonecoverage.com/2021/minnesota-vikings-news/comparing-mike-zimmers-continuity-struggles-with-other-long-tenured-head-coaches/#:~:text
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Yup we don't have a clue how to do anything out of the ordinary and that is even a challenge to the coaches here. We get outcoached in every game, and that includes the games we get lucky and win. AND Cousins all excited and wacks Zim in the chest cuz we barely beat the worst team in the league. Come on Quirk get a grasp.
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Shouldn't of even been that close, the missed kick & when they took the ball away from Mattison changed that game big time. Luckily the last FG attempt was good & hopefully :scratch: Mattison learned to not try to get that extra yard in that situation. :pouty: The ball & the clock is all the matters then.
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Yea something has to change, cusons was accurate as hell agai jefferson over a hu dy matthison over.a hundy, and only 1 touch down???? Who the hel is calling these plays?? They gota go!
Gary Kubiak's son Klint is now the OC. That is a large part of the problem IMO, 6 different OCs in his 7 years at the helm. :pouty: :tut: Turner was 1st, then Shurmur, De Filippo, Stefanski, & now the 2 Kubiaks. :crazy: https://zonecoverage.com/2021/minnesota-vikings-news/comparing-mike-zimmers-continuity-struggles-with-other-long-tenured-head-coaches/#:~:text
Who's calling the plays? :confused:
K. Kubiak might be calling the plays, but Zim's fingerprints are all over the game plan. Remember when Zim fired De Filippo for not toeing the "run first, run often" line? :doah:
Klint is looking to have a long coaching career in the NFL, and you don't want your first mark on your resume to be "Doesn't do what the Head Coach says."
He'll get his chance some where some day, and until then Vikings fans will continue to get to watch "2 Runs Up the Gut and a Dump-off pass over the middle short of the sticks."
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I'd be willin to bet :scratch: it was much the same issue when Turner, & Shurmur left as well. :crazy: :pouty: :tut:
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And perhaps Cousins has been too much of a nice guy to call out his coach for overly-conservative play.
Although, with Kapt. Kirk playing the best ball of his career, with capable wide receivers, you are starting to see peeps of feedback. I think I heard that Kirk was asked about why they ran in a particular situation or why they didn't go for a score at the end of the half, and his response was something to the effect that it was all coaching decisions - which is Quarterback Code for "they don't trust me to make plays in this situation."
I've always like Zim's hard-nosed, no nonsense approach to coaching, and I think is players respect him for this. But maybe it is a time for a change.
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I think the whole team is tired of his archaic attitude. He does seem to have lightened up some this year too. Like when he actually stood up for the kicker when he missed that one a few games ago. :happy1:
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I have a hard time believing a coordinator has a better idea of a play to call than a veteran quarterback down on the field. I understand helping rookie and first year guys but somebody like Cousins, Brady, Carr & other veterans should be able to set-up plays. I think much like baseball to many guys think they know what they are doing when actually they don't.
Just my opinion.
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:thumbs:farve uaed to change plays with high success, cauae he new what he was doing on the field
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:scratch: But that was Brad Childress & nobody cared what he said. ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: Especially Farve since he knew his days in the NFL were coming to an end! Although I think he did drive McCarthy :crazy: before he left GB doing exactly the same thing.
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I think the whole team is tired of his archaic attitude. He does seem to have lightened up some this year too. Like when he actually stood up for the kicker when he missed that one a few games ago. :happy1:
I think he is trying hard to say the right things in public, but I think it is very hard for that leopard to change his spots.
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;)
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Here is a throwback y'all will appreciate.
Now this is taunting!
On this date in 1974, Vikings QB Fran Tarkenton celebrated what seemed like a game-winning touchdown by spiking the ball off Patriots CB Ron Bolton's head and getting ejected after the ensuing fight. (https://twitter.com/QuirkyResearch/status/1453343393493536768)
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1: That is great. I forgot about that. Surprised Tark would do that too. LOLOL Thanks SteveO
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There saying Prescott won't be playing for Dallas now and the Vikings are picked to win.
Since I have dish I won't get the Sunday night game unless KMSP, channel 9 does??? They usually do
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:scratch: So you don't get any NBC channels on Dish? :bs:
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:scratch: So you don't get any NBC channels on Dish? :bs:
not sure what other NBC channels there are.......but....... not 11 out of the cities. :confused: pisses me off when they start playing games like this, especially what we pay for it. :angry2:
just read that this Cooper Rush, the cowboys backup QB was taking first string snaps all week...........and i know all to well what backup QB's hve done to the vikings in the past!!!!!!! :pouty: :crazy: :doofus:
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Seen a couple places are still saying it's a game time decision on Prescott but it does now look like the Vikes are now favored. :scratch: :confused:
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Betting opened with the Cowboys by 2 or 2.5. Now it is the Vikes favored by that much. They must think Dak isn't playing.
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:scratch: I'm expecting a heavy dose of Elliott & Pollard, if that's the case & hope Pierce is healthy. I'd like to see him to introduce himself :sleazy: training-087 to Zeke a few times tonight. :tut:
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Great clock management by the Vikings… said no one ever
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Horrible play calling on tonight's game
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:pouty: well, i see where another backup QB stymied the vikings and our 20 million dollar QB!!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty: :doofus: :confused: :confused:
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The game last night certainly had to be a nail in Zimmer's coffin.
Outside of the fact that the Wilfs held the State of Minnesota hostage to build their stadium, the have been good owners who have tried to build a winning franchise. They have been loyal to the coaching staff they hired and gave them everything they needed to be successful. And that type of support and security ought to lead to more progress and winning, but it hasn't.
The offense can't seem to move down the field unless it is the first drive of the game or the final two minute warning. The defense can's stop the run and their secondary plays soft - and like Glenn said - keep getting beat by backup QBs. :angry:
We know Zim runs the defense and puts handcuffs on his offensive coordinators. I think his run is coming to an end.
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i personally dont think there offensive coordinator has any right to be in that position :confused:
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I could rant on and on about the history of this coaching staff, but the Wilfs will rue the day when they let Stefanski leave to take a head coaching job with another team - just to be loyal to Zim for another season or two.
In the NFL it is ALWAYS best to make a move one year early than one year too late.
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I could rant on and on about the history of this coaching staff, but the Wilfs will rue the day when they let Stefanski leave to take a head coaching job with another team - just to be loyal to Zim for another season or two.
In the NFL it is ALWAYS best to make a move one year early than one year too late.
Huge mistake Seems everyone knew it too.
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I kind of hope they keep losing so something big changes. If we do kind of good we will see the same mediocre play next year.
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Ziggy should bring grueden!
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Ziggy should bring grueden!
I haven't been paying too close attention, but if Gruden goes forward with suing the league for improper termination, he'll end up on the outskirts with Kaepernick.
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It came across the screen on MNF that Hunter is done for the season & I now learned he may not play another down for the Vikings. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/vikings/2021/11/01/danielle-hunter-out-rest-season-torn-pectoral-muscle/6243107001/ :pouty: Season ending injuries for Derrick Henry & Jameis Winston too.
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Bummer for all of them.
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It came across the screen on MNF that Hunter is done for the season & I now learned he may not play another down for the Vikings. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/vikings/2021/11/01/danielle-hunter-out-rest-season-torn-pectoral-muscle/6243107001/ :pouty: Season ending injuries for Derrick Henry & Jameis Winston too.
yea i could see the end last year with hunter being with the vikings. :doah: that guy is built like a brick schmidt house!!!!! :rolleyes:
i see where the Titans signed all day Adrian to fill in for Henry!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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He only had 4.5 sacks at LSU. :scratch: He's due a $18 m bonus if he's even on the roster at the start of camp next year with his newly restructured deal & that may be enough for them to let him go.
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He only had 4.5 sacks at LSU. :scratch: He's due a $18 m bonus if he's even on the roster at the start of camp next year with his newly restructured deal & that may be enough for them to let him go.
hope they send cousins with him...................................................
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He only had 4.5 sacks at LSU. :scratch: He's due a $18 m bonus if he's even on the roster at the start of camp next year with his newly restructured deal & that may be enough for them to let him go.
hope they send cousins with him...................................................
hope someone else gets to make the decision on both of them.
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Just read on Purple PTSD that Shanahan is floundering in San Fran and may be a possible coach in MN. ??? He is O oriented so may be a good fit. ???
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:scratch: Even TB 12 & the $40 mil man didn't look very good this week & their OCs, Leftwich/Bieniemy, are considered by many as 2 of the best in the league. :confused:
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Shanahan? He isn't going anywhere. 49'ers just spent a fortune to draft a quarterback #3 for Shanahan to groom.
Just somebody throwing crap against the wall hoping to get something to stick.
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Shanahan? He isn't going anywhere. 49'ers just spent a fortune to draft a quarterback #3 for Shanahan to groom.
Just somebody throwing crap against the wall hoping to get something to stick.
:tut: He's signed through 2025 & 1 of the top 5 highest paid in the league as well.
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Shanahan? He isn't going anywhere. 49'ers just spent a fortune to draft a quarterback #3 for Shanahan to groom.
Just somebody throwing crap against the wall hoping to get something to stick.
Isn't that what everything is DB?
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From now until next season, or when the Wilfs pull the trigger, it is going to be wishful thinking.
It doesn't seem like all that long ago, but it probably was... Remember when Spielman made some - what at the time seemed painful - veteran cuts so the team could go younger?
They picked up the likes of Anthony Barr, Everson Griffen, Danielle Hunter, Harrison Smith, Xavier Rhodes, Erik Kendricks - that defense was stacked! Now the guys that are still around are older, slower, get hurt more, and play less. The veterans they signed are in the same boat and the new guys they drafted haven't panned out yet.
Yes, it seems to be time to get Kapt. Kirk's money off the books and blow the whole thing up.
The formula for success in the NFL is to bottom out, draft a QB in the first round, hope he pans out to be a franchise guy, and load up on wise free agent signings while the QB is still on his rookie deal.
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:scratch: Spielman & Zimmer both signed extensions through the 2023 season this summer
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:scratch: Spielman & Zimmer both signed extensions through the 2023 season this summer
in sports nowadays a signed contract means nothing. That's for players, coaches and upper management alike. Kinda :bs: if ya ask me.
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It means they're less likely to get rid of 'em 6 months later IMO & if they do it costs more. The players, not so much, they'll just sit out & force a trade. :sad:
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If they dump Zim or Speilman they have to pay them for not showing up for 2 years. If they get other jobs the Wilfs wouldn't have to pay the full amount.
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So wat yur saying is, another 2 urs of this bs...
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I don't think it will go that far. We need someone to want to hire them. LOL
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So ur still.sayi g another 2 yrs of this.bs. lol!
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At least the rest of this year would be my guess. Then bye bye.
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:scratch: If I had to bet on it, my $ would go on Mike & Rick fulfilling their contracts. :pouty:
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I would bet you a roll of TP that this will be Zimmer's last year
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:scratch: Charmin? :sleazy: :nerd: :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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Ok
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Ok
you always have the best....
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Apathy has set in.
How come it is so hard for the offense to get anything done in the second half? :scratch:
Teams gash us regularly for 7-8 yard runs up the middle. We try this repeatedly and get stuffed at the line of scrimmage. :doah:
I didn't hear Zim's explanation, but he should have gone for the win at the end of the game and tried for 2. When you have an offense that can't be relied upon in the second half, what makes him think they would perform in overtime.
:surrender:
One play. Two yards. Every team has multiple plays in their back pocket for this scenario. USE ONE!!! :angry:
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As mentioned they had a long run, a long pass, kick return touchdown, several interceptions. They scored plenty of points. The defense gave up more.
Zimmer is a defensive head coach so.........................
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I listened to KFAN on my way home yesterday. Matt Birk was on. I like the guests better than the hosts. He said that it was determined the Vikes had a 96% chance to win that game with the plays that DB just mentioned. So we only had a 4% chance to lose that game and we blew it. I think Zim lost the team a few years ago and it has just been going through the motions since then. I also think he has his finger heavy on the OC's decisions as to what plays are called. That is why he has gone through so many OC's. AND Quirk has absolutely no leadership role with this team like someone like Favre had. SO Zim, Spielman, and Cousins all need to go to start a different philosophy here. I am looking forward to it. I actually think Zim is fed up too and may even want to go. Wouldn't it be funny if Cousins asked to get traded???? LOLOL I don't see it happening but would be funny.
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:scratch: Only getting 3 pts out of the 2 TO's cost 'em the game. It should've been over in regulation IMO. :sad: As far as the defense giving up too many points the fact that they were on the field almost twice as much as the Raven's :rolleyes:, Time of possession was 46 to 24, & a look at the # of 1st downs, 36 to 13 will tell you why. The Ravens defense has a lot to do with the 1st downs, especially in the 2nd half. We were missing 4 starters on defense too.
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It was a wild week in the NFL as 4 of the biggest favorites lost. The Cowboys(10), Rams(7.5), & NO(6.5) all lost home games Sunday. The Bengals got killed(41-15) at home too but they were only a 2 pt favorite meanwhile the Bills got beat in Jax too & they were a 16.5 pt favorite. :crazy:
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Yeah, the take I heard on KFAN yesterday is that Kapt Kirk either isn't allowed to or doesn't want to take responsibility for changing plays at the line of scrimmage. It made them harken back a couple of seasons ago when Stephon Diggs AND Adam Thielen got frustrated with Kirk for not pushing the ball down the the field.
They continue to play not-to-lose, which means they seldom win.
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Yup Quirk doesn't want the pressure of making decisions. He should have been a tennis player. Then he would only be holding himself back and not a whole team. NOT a leader.
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GoPackGo
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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GoPackGo
Is that Farve's?
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GoPackGo
(https://mnoutdoorsman.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37439.0;attach=78280;image)
(https://i.pinimg.com/550x/a9/85/7e/a9857e393aed0fbafa3fe5b4ecc2131b.jpg)
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: That is a good one!
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They also have really low expectations.
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:scratch: Are you sure the 1 on the left is really a Vikings fan? :rolleyes: :confused: She's already got a ring!! ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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How observant Gunner. :happy1:
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she has a number 4 shirt on.. must a Favre fan!!!
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How observant Gunner. :happy1:
he checks out the ring fingers of all the inger girls too!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :evil: :evil: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: so i wastold anyway!!!!!!!! :happy1: :bonk:
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How observant Gunner. :happy1:
:happy1: If they're worth checkin out that's usually ~ 3 or 4th thing I notice. :sleazy: :evil: ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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How observant Gunner. :happy1:
he checks out the ring fingers of all the inger girls too!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :evil: :evil: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: so i wastold anyway!!!!!!!! :happy1: :bonk:
:tut: Only thing I ever hear down there anymore is :pouty:.................................Where's our boy toy? :sleazy: :nerd: :nerd: :evil: ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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oh so you do go there!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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oh so you do go there!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :super smiley:
I'm glad you said it. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: I've been telling you guyz that for years!!!🤭🤭 :rotflmao:
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oh so you do go there!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:huh: Yup, usually about once a week ;) :smiley:.......................................on our way to GR. :moon: It's only 30 through there too, so it's easy to see all the kids runnin around down there that look an awful lot like glenn :sleazy: :nerd:........................................SHORT!! ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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:oops1: Wrong thread. :doofus: :bonk:
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:oops1: Wrong thread. :doofus: :bonk:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: late nite over in inger!!!!!!!! :bonk: :rotflmao:
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:oops1: Wrong thread. :doofus: :bonk:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: late nite over in inger!!!!!!!! :bonk: :rotflmao:
:tut: :mooning:oh so you do go there!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:huh: Yup, usually about once a week ;) :smiley:.......................................on our way to GR. :moon: It's only 30 through there too, so it's easy to see all the kids runnin around down there that look an awful lot like glenn :sleazy: :nerd:........................................SHORT!! ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Vikings place Kenny Willekes on COVID-19 list, sign Eddie Yarbrough (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/11/12/vikings-place-kenny-willekes-on-covid-19-list-sign-eddie-yarbrough/)
Minnesota announced on Friday that the club has placed defensive end Kenny Willekes on the reserve/COVID-19 list. He was just promoted to the active roster as a COVID-19 replacement for safety Harrison Smith on Tuesday.
Willekes is now the sixth player on Minnesota’s COVID reserve, joining Harrison Smith, Garrett Bradbury, Ryan Connelly, Dakota Dozier, and Timon Parris.
I wonder who else will test positive before the game on Sunday? :confused:
In a different article (about A. Rog) I learned that after you test positive in the NFL, you don't have to wait until you test negative again - you simply have to sit out 10 days. Apparently the NFL knows something about Covid recovery that the scientific community from across the globe has failed to discover. :scratch:
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I don't think thats correct. Erin will still need to pass a daily test as before testing positive.
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https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-covid-vaccine-rules-explained/1efarozoadvh11vig3gtdctcdz Looks like he'll need 2 negative tests at least 24 hours apart before he can play.
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https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-covid-vaccine-rules-explained/1efarozoadvh11vig3gtdctcdz Looks like he'll need 2 negative tests at least 24 hours apart before he can play.
That is for vaccinated players. This clause would allow vaccinated players to return sooner than 10 days if they test positive within a 24 hour period, but Erin is not vaccinated.
Below you will see the policy for unvaccinated players is different. The rules don't seem to make sense to me, but there is nothing stated about needing to test negative after 10 days. You simply have to isolate and have "improved" symptoms.
If an unvaccinated person tests positive, the protocols from 2020 will remain in effect. The person will be isolated for a period of 10 days and will then be permitted to return to duty if asymptomatic.
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:scratch: From the same link above: Unvaccinated individuals must be tested for COVID every day at the team facility. If a player misses even one day of testing, they will be required to test negative for COVID for five straight days before re-entering the facility. That's what happened to Cam Newton before the final week of the Patriots' preseason.
Unvaccinated free agents must also test negative for five consecutive days before being allowed to enter a team facility.
Unvaccinated players must wear masks at all times in the facility. They cannot gather in groups larger than three players and on the road "are prohibited from congregating, visiting or mingling with individuals outside of the traveling party once they have arrived in the game city."
Unvaccinated individuals are subject to fines if they break COVID protocols. This can include anything from failing to wear a mask in the facility or going to an indoor concert or house party with more than 15 people.
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So fn stupid
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:scratch: It was voted on by the NFLPA in the last CBA. They wanted fewer preseason games, they got it. Owners wanted a 17th regular season game, they got it. The NFL/owners & networks wanted to make sure they had enough players to play the games when they're scheduled, they got it. So they all get a pc of the pie. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/18/sports/football/nfl-tv-contracts.html
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:scratch: It was voted on by the NFLPA in the last CBA. They wanted fewer preseason games, they got it. Owners wanted a 17th regular season game, they got it. The NFL/owners & networks wanted to make sure they had enough players to play the games when they're scheduled, they got it. So they all get a pc of the pie. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/18/sports/football/nfl-tv-contracts.html
Well I hope they know this is racist and their going to lose a lot of low income intercity fans that can't afford to watch them for free anymore! :mad1:
Of course they know those folks never put any profits in the bank anyway. And low income and race dont really pay the Bill's anyway! 😉
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:happy1: :scratch: I'm not sure I can afford to watch 'em for free anymore either :rolleyes:............................it costs TOO MUCH for all the beer :drinking: I need to make it through the game. :pouty: ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: It was voted on by the NFLPA in the last CBA. They wanted fewer preseason games, they got it. Owners wanted a 17th regular season game, they got it. The NFL/owners & networks wanted to make sure they had enough players to play the games when they're scheduled, they got it. So they all get a pc of the pie. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/18/sports/football/nfl-tv-contracts.html
Well I hope they know this is racist and their going to lose a lot of low income intercity fans that can't afford to watch them for free anymore! :mad1:
Of course they know those folks never put any profits in the bank anyway. And low income and race dont really pay the Bill's anyway! 😉
I missed the racist part. I don't know that race has anything to with anything. You don't need to be Black or Hispanic or Asian to not like the streaming. I'm white, I don't like the streaming but as long as the NFL is on network TV it won't change anything for me. As far as paying the NFL's bills you couldn't not buy a product even if you hated the NFL. They are the monster in the room and nobody will take them down. Certainly not the fans. We can't even agree on which team we hate the most. :pouty:
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At this point if the game isn't on free TV I won't be watching.
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At this point if the game isn't on free TV I won't be watching.
same here!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: i already pay to damn much for TV services!!!!!!! :mad1:
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:scratch: It was voted on by the NFLPA in the last CBA. They wanted fewer preseason games, they got it. Owners wanted a 17th regular season game, they got it. The NFL/owners & networks wanted to make sure they had enough players to play the games when they're scheduled, they got it. So they all get a pc of the pie. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/18/sports/football/nfl-tv-contracts.html
Well I hope they know this is racist and their going to lose a lot of low income intercity fans that can't afford to watch them for free anymore! :mad1:
Of course they know those folks never put any profits in the bank anyway. And low income and race dont really pay the Bill's anyway! 😉
I missed the racist part. I don't know that race has anything to with anything. You don't need to be Black or Hispanic or Asian to not like the streaming. I'm white, I don't like the streaming but as long as the NFL is on network TV it won't change anything for me. As far as paying the NFL's bills you couldn't not buy a product even if you hated the NFL. They are the monster in the room and nobody will take them down. Certainly not the fans. We can't even agree on which team we hate the most. :pouty:
Everything that excludes anyone of low income is Racist now a days. You must not live in the cities and hear this 24/7. :scratch: Like Voter ID is racist, Math is racist, Dr. Susses is racist. :surrender:
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well i'll be damned.......... dang near turned it to the hallmark channel earlier!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I flipped back and forth between them and the Peckers. Wasn't overly impressed with either but a Viking win is good I guess. Seattle is gawd awful.
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I think Darrisaw helped the O line.
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I think Darrisaw helped the O line.
so do i.
i also think Cousins should give half his salary to that Jefferson kid. some of them catches he made yesterday were awesome!!!!!!! :happy1:
seriously, the vikings need to do something with Jefferson soon................... like pay him!!!!!!
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:crazy: :scratch: :doah: They still have next year & 2023 to go on his rookie deal, they won't be talking $ with him until at least the start of the 2023 season. Most rookie contracts have an option year in 'em too.
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Seen some things out of the offense yday that if we'd seen earlier in the season they could easily be 6-3. They got 3 or 4 crucial 1st downs in the 2nd half that allowed them to score the 2 TDs. I liked what I saw out of some of the young guys on defense too. :happy1: :cool: We had 5 starters out again, Hunter who is done for the year last I heard, no Pierce or Barr, while Patrick Peterson & Smith were both missing from the secondary.
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So we didn't need those guys as much as we thought we did. Better get used to not having them around at all.
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:scratch: I'd bet that Zimmer will have all of 'em in there next week if they're healthy IMO.
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So we didn't need those guys as much as we thought we did. Better get used to not having them around at all.
I'd almost bet the farm Barr won't be back.
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Pierce and Hunter have been basically no shows. SO do they get their annual salary when out due to injury? How about Pierce holding out for covid. Does he get paid then?
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Yes & Yes.
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I thought they got paid their normal salary when opting out but it turns out they didn't. They basically either got $150K or a $350k draw on future salary depending on if they were a voluntary or a high risk opt out respectively. They do get their full annual salary if injured, however. What I read said they didn't rule Barr out against the Chargers until Friday so he should be back, maybe as soon as this week against GB. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-how-key-players-opting-out-affects-salary-cap-for-2020-and-beyond-plus-more-opt-out-details/#:~:te
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Thanks. I wondered about that.
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I see the Packers are selling more "stock" :rolleyes:, wonder :scratch: if they're gonna offer Erin more money to stick around. ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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My guess is more shovels for cleaning those benches they have to sit on.
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Stadium improvements is the latest :bs: I heard. :doofus:
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Stadium improvements is the latest :bs: I heard. :doofus:
Buying Packers ‘stock’ is the best scam in sports (https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2021/11/16/22785494/green-bay-packers-stock-sale-2021-suckers-scam-stadium-renovations)
It’s a huge day if you like giving away money to a billion dollar organization and getting nothing in return. That’s right folks, your chance to become an “owner” of the Green Bay Packers is here!
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On the contrare Steve O you do get something in return. I heard on the radio today (so it must be true) that you get a paper certificate that you can hang on the wall. Priceless meaning not worth a thing. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Well with inflation the price of toilet paper we may get to the point of that piece of paper having a real value. :azn:
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well, time to watch the vikings get mathematically eliminated from playoff contention!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
roh roh...divante Adams is playing.......... :shocked:
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Jefferson is having a Moss type day against Green Bush.
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and cousins lucked out with that penalty!!!!
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f!@#$%^&%$#$% cousins!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad1: :mad1: :confused: :pouty:
my bad...ref good guy!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Lucky for 'dem Viqueens 'dat 'dey let 'dem Pikers score on 'da foist play b'fore 'da two minute warnin'
udderwise 'der wouldn't have been enough time fer Cousins to come back fer a field goal.
Jus think of what would of happened if Marquez Valdes-Scantling nelt down at 'da 5 yard line instead of streakin' into 'da end zone.
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Whoulda shoulda coulda, dey lost!! :rotflmao:
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Read earlier, Everson Griffen went off the deep end again. :confused: :pouty:
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just read something about that a little while ago.....
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https://bringmethenews.com/
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Sure hope he is ok. Must be scary as heck to go through something like that.
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https://bringmethenews.com/
Ok, guess he wouldn't be in the line-up the next game or may be the rest of the season. :doah:
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Doesn't look good.
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:scratch: Seen somewhere that he's in a mental health facility & has been ruled out for this weeks game. It also said that he'd called 911 about an intruder & then he wouldn't come out of his house for 14 hrs. :doah:
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He is on a uninjured time off thing. Will be out for at least 3 weeks. ??? Hope he gets ok but we may never see him again. I hope we do though.
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Just found this too https://www.aol.com/vikings-relieved-everson-griffen-mental-142338568.html
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Apparently apathy has set in, eh?
Were it not for that kickoff return TD, the Vikes would have score 6, maybe 9 point in the entire second half - and again nothing in the 4th quarter. I heard someone say if they Vikings were winning more close games, Kapt. Kirk would be in the discussion for league MVP. But they aren't and he isn't. Kapt. Kirk missed some easy throws in the end zone. MVPs don't do that.
And maybe injuries are to blame, but the defense couldn't stop anything yesterday. At some point Zim is supposed to be able to coach those second stringers up to be serviceable to be future starters and defensive stars in the league. Who is the next Danielle Hunter? Eric Kendricks? Harrison Smith? It has been quite a few seasons since Zim has developed a young defensive star player.
And if they are missing on talent evaluations in the draft, it time to indict Spielman as well.
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to use an old phrase from good ol uncle Burnsie......the vikings are what we always thought they were!!!!!!! :confused: :nerd: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: hell, i'd like to just see them make it to a super bowl one day.........but i dont see that happening!!!!!!
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to use an old phrase from good ol uncle Burnsie......the vikings are what we always thought they were!!!!!!! :confused: :nerd: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: hell, i'd like to just see them make it to a super bowl one day.........but i dont see that happening!!!!!!
I used to dream of that Glenn. I think reality final set in for me. That and the NFL became to woke for me.
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Some of the players that we have released that are doing good on other teams may get to enjoy a Super Bowl. :sleazy:
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The defense against the run was ranked 28th when the game started yday & I don't think it was any better at the end after giving up 208 yds. That really opened up their play action passing game IMO. :pouty: :thumbs:
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I know this is the Minnesotan coming out in me, but...
Just wait until Mac Jones becomes the next franchise QB for the Patriots and Christian Darisaw ends up being a serviceable, but not exceptional lineman.
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The defense against the run was ranked 28th when the game started yday & I don't think it was any better at the end after giving up 208 yds. That really opened up their play action passing game IMO. :pouty: :thumbs:
2nd year in a row for an under-performing defense from a defensive-minded head coach. :doah:
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Pats are playing some of the best ball goin right now.The #2 ranked defense & the offense is middle of the pack when I just looked(ESPN)
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to use an old phrase from good ol uncle Burnsie......the vikings are what we always thought they were!!!!!!! :confused: :nerd: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: hell, i'd like to just see them make it to a super bowl one day.........but i dont see that happening!!!!!!
I used to dream of that Glenn. I think reality final set in for me. That and the NFL became to woke for me.
No doubt. I watch NFL games sparingly. If I hear them start in with the "woke" stuff, that's my cue to take a nap or find something constructive to do. And I don't mean watch Hallmark! :doah:
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I haven’t watched a football game in two year, and don’t miss it one bit. Mainly for reasons Dotch brought up.
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:scratch: I just let all that "social justice" rhetoric go in 1 ear & out the other just like all political :bs: on here :rolleyes: some days. :doah: :pouty:
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On KFAN they just said that on tv they will be saying the Vikes and Lions game will be on Fox. It will not be on Fox but will be on CBS. Take note all of you Vikes fans. LOL
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CBS has the AFC package, Fox the NFC. With both the Vikings & Lions being NFC teams why would they be on CBS? Makes no sense.
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Who knows dutchy,just googled the NFL schedule, giants and Tampa Bay and there opponents are scheduled on Fox same time Vikings play at noon.
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I, like most of the country have no interest in Vikings vs Lions but geez don't ruin the AFC games by putting them on CBS.
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CBS has the AFC package, Fox the NFC. With both the Vikings & Lions being NFC teams why would they be on CBS? Makes no sense.
Yeah.....I saw that also. I seem to remember that happening before.
The visiting team always get the network. Plus wherever there are 2 from the same conference playing each other. This week FOX has significantly more games on their schedule than CBS had on theirs. So, rather than having to give the Vikings/Lions game to a comparatively smaller audience, the two networks decided to even things out so that more people can be exposed.
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here we go...................field goals vs TD. :confused: :crazy: :crazy: :doah:
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:angry2: :angry2: :confused: :doah: training-087 training-087 :banghead: cousins.......... :bs: :surrender: :puke: :puke:
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:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: training-087 training-087 training-087
leave it to the vikingsto lose to a winless team................. :confused: :doah: :embarrassed:
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Nothing new there. :crazy:
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Nothing new there. :crazy:
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yea and the raiders sure arent helping the vikings in there playoff hunt!!!!!! :shocked: :rolleyes: they are behind washington and they are winning!!!!!!
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Is there a state in the union who's "professional" sports teams lose to bad teams more than in Minnesota?
Why do we ALWAYS have to play down to the competition? :confused: :angry2:
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:bump: They play the Steelers tomorrow!! :scratch:
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:bump: They play the Steeler's tomorrow!! :scratch:
Good luck, boys. Make it close!
( I know you will ;) :doah: )
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My wife's cousin and her husband are flying from Mesa to go to the game. They are rabid fans. They bought the tickets before the season started. If I were them, I'd stay home and use the tickets as kindling.
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Good for them being such fans but man that is some bucks they are spending. Hope we win for their sake.
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Know a guy down here who has had season tickets since US Bank Stadium was built. Not the cheap seats either as they get compted all their alcohol & probably any food too. I don't believe :scratch: they're in one of the suites though. :confused: He's loaded, real nice guy though. They even flew out to the Ram's game last season.
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Good for them being such fans but man that is some bucks they are spending. Hope we win for their sake.
I hope they lose in order to teach the warden's relatives a good lesson.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: It's your relatives so I didn't want to say that. LOL
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The link is about where Kapt. Kirk could end up next year, but it was the first part of the article I thought was interesting - rather identifying how mediocre the Vikes and Cousins have been these past two seasons. The Vikes are a .500 team and Cousins is a .500 quarterback over his career.
As for a potential trade... Good luck to the next GM to find a sucker team to take KK off our hands for $45M. :doah:
Where could Kirk Cousins end up next season? (https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/where-could-kirk-cousins-end-up-next-season/)
After they spent the offseason giving out short-term contracts to fill holes, the Vikings still sit in relatively the same position they were in last year. After 11 games, both teams sat at 5-6. The 2020 squad beat the league-worst Jaguars by three in overtime, while this year’s squad fell to the league-worst Lions to move to 5-7.
While there are many reasons to keep the signal-caller in uniform next season, there are numerous others that point in a different direction. In his four seasons, Cousins is 30-26-1 and holds a record of 56-58-2 in his career. Pair the lack of success with his $45 million dollar cap hit and the decision to move on could become an easy one.
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He is an accurate passer when it is like a punt pass and kick contest with noone within 10 yards of him. When it is like actual football it is too big for him to handle. I am ready for a different direction. That is putting it mildly. :sleazy:
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I have made those same comments during every Vikings game this year. Technically very good but can’t do it under any pressure.
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Looks like Dalvin Cook is going to give it a go against the Steelers tonight.
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:bump: They play the Steeler's tomorrow!! :scratch:
Good luck, boys. Make it close!
( I know you will ;) :doah: )
29-doughnut into the 3rd Quarter and Zim's "Prevent" Defense lets 'em back into the game.
Momentum turned on Boyd's taunting penalty that turned a tackle for loss into a 1st down that lead to the Steeler's first touch down. :angry:
That's what happens when you kick (and miss) field goals instead of score touch downs. :undecided:
And it goes right down to the last play again - and Big Ben had the throw. :doah:
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Woods, Barr, & Smith were all there & he still almost made the catch. :crazy: Replay looked like Smith got a hand on it just as he was about to pull it in. :rolleyes:
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This game was a good example of how Zim's Defense speciality is not what it used to be. Blow a 29 lead in a quarter. It doesn't get much worse that that.
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Exactly lps, earlier years of Zimmer defense put the strangle hold on during second half of games. Not so much anymore..
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Cornerbacks are awful. Peterson is still OK. But headed downhill with age. :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
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:happy1: That is directly related to NOT getting enough pressure on the other teams QB IMO. Some of that is because our 3 best pass rushers, Hunter, Pierce, & Griffen, haven't been on the field very much this season. :pouty:
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Cornerbacks are awful.:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
Agreed. Beshaud Breeland. He’s been awful all year.
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Most teams don't throw at Peterson much unless he just came back from an injury so they throw Breeland's way 2 or 3 times more :rolleyes: & yeah, he hasn't had a good year. :sad:
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The Vikes were favored by 3.5 but now with Chicago's OC, DC, and SP TMs Coordinator out with Covid protocol the Vikes are favored by 5.5.
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They are favored so they will blow it.
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Most teams don't throw at Peterson much unless he just came back from an injury so they throw Breeland's way 2 or 3 times more :rolleyes: & yeah, he hasn't had a good year. :sad:
If it were easy, everyone would be good. Still, I don't know why DBs don't turn around and look for the ball sooner.
I get it that if the receiver is juking back and forth across the middle, you have to watch the man to stay with him, and that coverage is really hard.
But if a DB is streaking down the sideline, why not turn back sooner? :confused: The DB should have just as good of a chance to catch the ball. :scratch:
Some of the catches those receivers make with DBs draped all over them are truly amazing.
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:scratch: I think they feel they've been beat & panic. They then start to play the WR instead of playing the ball. The really good DB's seem to have a feel for when to look for the ball IMO.
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Just seen where they waived Breeland today after he got into a shouting match with both coaches & teammates in practice today. https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-cut-starter-bashaud-breeland-after-reported-altercation-with-coaches-teammates-at-practice-215858042.html?fr=sycsr
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Maybe the coaches deserved it. :sleazy: based on the past performances this last year. :pouty:
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:pouty: :violin: :violin: :violin: :cry: :cry: :cry: :tut:
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:bow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPfas9sMTxo
:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:
We will bring da covid wit us :moon: :tut:
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Don’t think Breeland will be missed, except maybe by opposing quarterbacks and receivers. Shoulda kept Mike Hughes.
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The guy was burned more than a California forest.
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Maybe the coaches deserved it. :sleazy: based on the past performances this last year. :pouty:
:scratch: & MAYBE :rolleyes: you'd be happier :confused: if you were a Packer fan!! :nerd: :mooning: :evil:
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Don’t think Breeland will be missed, except maybe by opposing quarterbacks and receivers. Shoulda kept Mike Hughes.
Seen Hughes on the field for KC the last time I watched them :scratch: Think he's mainly playin the nickel back for them. I thought he did a good job for us too. :confused:
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Maybe the coaches deserved it. :sleazy: based on the past performances this last year. :pouty:
:scratch: & MAYBE :rolleyes: you'd be happier :confused: if you were a Packer fan!! :nerd: :mooning: :evil:
I was tinkin he already was a :censored: packer fan! :doah:
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Maybe the coaches deserved it. :sleazy: based on the past performances this last year. :pouty:
:scratch: & MAYBE :rolleyes: you'd be happier :confused: if you were a Packer fan!! :nerd: :mooning: :evil:
I was tinkin he already was a :censored: packer fan! :doah:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: my favorite team each week is the team playing the packers!!!! :happy1: :happy1: even dabears!!!!!! :shocked:
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:scratch: :doah: WOWZER.........the cardinals are getting trashed by them Lions!!!!!! :rolleyes:
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:offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic: :tut: :pouty: :nerd: :evil:
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:offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic: :tut: :pouty: :nerd: :evil:
:mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :rotflmao:
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WOW......i just read that the entire bears starting secondary is on the covid list and looks like they'll have 4 practice squad players playing.
PS............ hey gunner that more on topic................ :mooning: :mooning: :evil: :rolleyes: :smoking:
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Don’t think Breeland will be missed, except maybe by opposing quarterbacks and receivers. Shoulda kept Mike Hughes.
Yeah, I saw where Hughes was playing really well for the Chiefs. Still, when a player blossoms on a winning team after leaving an mediocre organization I kind of blame the coaches for not getting the best out of him and the front office for trading him for a bucket of balls. Still, he was hurt much of the time.
The Vikes traded Hughes and 2022 seventh-round draft pick for the Chiefs 2022 sixth-round draft pick. Hughes was the 30th overall pick in 2018, and although he was very injury prone for the Vikes, they gave him up to move from the 7th to 6th round in the 22 draft? :confused: :doah:
Both Spielman and Zim overestimate their ability to find and develop secondary cornerback talent.
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Yeah, Hughes was hurt much the time he was with the Vikings & that was was probably a major factor in his play as well as them trading him. As they say all the time in the NFL the best ability to have is availability....................... & glenn :sleazy: :nerd: :evil: :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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WOW......i just read that the entire bears starting secondary is on the covid list and looks like they'll have 4 practice squad players playing.
So wit' covid runnin' rampant true da Bearz, what do yous tink da odds are dat all da Vi-Queens get da 'Vid from da Monstas of da Midway?
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I have wondered the same thing.
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Well that Lee character did say the teddy bears where bringing it wit!!!🥴 :pouty:
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Quirk had 87 yds passing Fields had 285 total yds us 193 them 370
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yeah that was one ugly game........ the bears wanted to give the vikings the game and the vikings did everything to not win........vikings shoulda had 40 plus points!!!!!
think between the 2 teams they had 5 personal foul penalties, one on kendericks got his tossed out. some of the replays looked like jefferson
was getting mugged and no penalties. :scratch: :doah:
but hey........they said ole capn kirk haa won 3 0f 4 prime time games now!!!!!!!
3 games left......and i see them MAYBE winning one. no way they beat the Rams of GB...... :tut: :tut: and another TD by the oppenent on the last play of the game!!! :tut: :pouty: but it did net me 10 bucks on out modest litttle family pool!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :rotflmao:
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yeah that was one ugly game........ the bears wanted to give the vikings the game and the vikings did everything to not win........vikings shoulda had 40 plus points!!!!!
think between the 2 teams they had 5 personal foul penalties, one on kendericks got his tossed out. some of the replays looked like jefferson
was getting mugged and no penalties. :scratch: :doah:
but hey........they said ole capn kirk haa won 3 0f 4 prime time games now!!!!!!!
3 games left......and i see them MAYBE winning one. no way they beat the Rams of GB...... :tut: :tut: and another TD by the oppenent on the last play of the game!!! :tut: :pouty: but it did net me 10 bucks on out modest litttle family pool!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :rotflmao:
Yeah, with Thielen out they were mugging Jefferson and why it was a run game pretty much all night. Sad to say, but I think the last few games the Vik's are going to get Rammed and Packed! :undecided:
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It didn't look like they missed Breeland very bad as Dantzler had a good game as did Wonnum. Bears shot themselves in the foot with all fumbles & penalties or the outcome may have been different. :crazy:
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Quirk had 87 yds passing Fields had 285 total yds us 193 them 370
What the F'ert was up with that? :confused:
Da Bears have 17 players out on Covid protocol - including all 4 secondary starters - and Zim's game plan was to have Cook (the guy with the separated shoulder) run "up the gut" 28 plays? :scratch: Did you see how gassed Cook looked in the second series? He was getting killed. :censored:
And for what? Because Zim was afraid Kapt. Kirk would throw interceptions to the replacement players in the secondary? :doah:
It is obvious Zim plays not to lose. And despite some impressive stat categories like most sacks by the defense and fewest allowed by the offense, they are still a .500 team. I think the most significant stat for the team is giving up the most points in the last 2 minutes before the half and game. (They padded 9 more points onto that stat last night.) If Zim would not continue to play soft prevent defense at the end of halves, they might have been contended with the Packers for the division. :embarrassed:
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yeah that was one ugly game........ the bears wanted to give the vikings the game and the vikings did everything to not win........vikings shoulda had 40 plus points!!!!!
think between the 2 teams they had 5 personal foul penalties, one on kendericks got his tossed out. some of the replays looked like jefferson
was getting mugged and no penalties. :scratch: :doah:
but hey........they said ole capn kirk haa won 3 0f 4 prime time games now!!!!!!!
3 games left......and i see them MAYBE winning one. no way they beat the Rams of GB...... :tut: :tut: and another TD by the oppenent on the last play of the game!!! :tut: :pouty: but it did net me 10 bucks on out modest litttle family pool!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :rotflmao:
Yeah, with Thielen out they were mugging Jefferson and why it was a run game pretty much all night. Sad to say, but I think the last few games the Vik's are going to get Rammed and Packed! :undecided:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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And one more question about that final touchdown play for the Bears...
So if a receiver jumps up in the back of the end zone, catches the ball, and the defense pushes him out of the end zone - out of bounds - where he does NOT get two feet (or any other body parts) down in the end zone - then the pass is incomplete. No touchdown.
So on this play, the receiver jumps, catches the ball, and the defense pushes him out of the end zone - back into the field of play - where he dose NOT get two feet (or any other body parts) down in the end zone - but this is a touchdown. :scratch:
Why? :confused:
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Steve-o, on that particular play, the replay also showed he did not have control of the ball, but they where looking also if his shin hit in bounds prior to his elbow hitting the ground out of bounds!!!!!
i believe they ruled it incomplete because he didnt have control of the ball!!!!!!!
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I actually took off work early to watch this pathetic exhibition. The Vikings are lucky they had the Zebras on their side or they would have lost to a practice squad. The dancing and celebrating is nearly enough to make me puke. I use to say professional football was one notch above pro wrestling. No longer true.
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I actually took off work early to watch this pathetic exhibition. The Vikings are lucky they had the Zebras on their side or they would have lost to a practice squad. The dancing and celebrating is nearly enough to make me puke. I use to say professional football was one notch above pro wrestling. No longer true.
The thing that irks me most is when the defense makes a turnover on the 50 yard line, a bunch of the players all run down to the end zone to mug in front of the "show off" cam.
The NFL must have put that camera there so players could download their celebrations and share them on Insta with all of their homies.
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I see when you go check the NFL playoff picture the Vikings currently are the 7th seed with Washington playing tonight. The vikes are going to need an aweful lot of luck and help from other teams, buy I'm convinced they'll self implode there way outta da playoffs all on there own.
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And one more question about that final touchdown play for the Bears...
So if a receiver jumps up in the back of the end zone, catches the ball, and the defense pushes him out of the end zone - out of bounds - where he does NOT get two feet (or any other body parts) down in the end zone - then the pass is incomplete. No touchdown.
So on this play, the receiver jumps, catches the ball, and the defense pushes him out of the end zone - back into the field of play - where he dose NOT get two feet (or any other body parts) down in the end zone - but this is a touchdown. :scratch:
Why? :confused:
I think the rule is when TD's are scored by guys reaching out and breaking the goal plain, their in control of the ball and the ball crossed the line before they did.
Where in that play, he was already past the goal line when he caught the ball, but never touched down with it inside the goal plain.
Same kind of thing with forward progress. If a receiver catches the ball, and the defense push's him back in midair. The ball is marked where he touch's down, not where he was when he caught it.
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Now I think I was thinking of a different play then Steve-0 ???
Where you talking the last play of the game??? They did rule it aTD. Never mind :rotflmao: :rotflmao: that made me 10 bucks richer. :sleazy: :rotflmao:
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Yeah, I don't see how that last play was a touchdown.
But if I think about it real hard, it probably makes sense.
If you are running the ball in the end zone, the ball just needs to cross the plane of the goal line. The runner doesn't need to put two feet in the end zone or nothing. In fact you see it all the time that a runner will cut the corner of the end zone by the front pilon, step out of bounds past the pilon, but since his body and ball crossed thru the end zone, it is a TD.
Any time you catch the ball, in order for it to be a catch you need to come down in the field of play, not out of bounds.
So in the back of the end zone, if you possess the ball in the end zone, but get pushed out of bounds before you feet touch, it is incomplete.
In the front of the end zone, if you catch the ball in the air, possess it in the end, the ball has crossed the plane of the goal line. And if the receiver gets pushed back across the goal line, but still touches down in the field of play, then it is a catch.
Sorry for this tangent guys. Go back to your lives, citizens.
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Yeah, I don't see how that last play was a touchdown.
But if I think about it real hard, it probably makes sense.
If you are running the ball in the end zone, the ball just needs to cross the plane of the goal line. The runner doesn't need to put two feet in the end zone or nothing. In fact you see it all the time that a runner will cut the corner of the end zone by the front pilon, step out of bounds past the pilon, but since his body and ball crossed thru the end zone, it is a TD.
Any time you catch the ball, in order for it to be a catch you need to come down in the field of play, not out of bounds.
So in the back of the end zone, if you possess the ball in the end zone, but get pushed out of bounds before you feet touch, it is incomplete.
In the front of the end zone, if you catch the ball in the air, possess it in the end, the ball has crossed the plane of the goal line. And if the receiver gets pushed back across the goal line, but still touches down in the field of play, then it is a catch.
Sorry for this tangent guys. Go back to your lives, citizens.
Like Leech said above! :bonk: :bonk: :rotflmao:
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Like Leech said above! :bonk: :bonk: :rotflmao:
Yeah, like Leech said! ;)
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Like Leech said above! :bonk: :bonk: :rotflmao:
Yeah, like Leech said! ;)
:scratch: :scratch: which one.......he says a lot of rubberish>>>>>>>>>> :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Like Leech said above! :bonk: :bonk: :rotflmao:
Yeah, like Leech said! ;)
:scratch: :scratch: which one.......he says a lot of rubberish>>>>>>>>>> :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Rubberish... :scratch: Is that a combination of "rubbish" and 'jibberish?" :confused:
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Like Leech said above! :bonk: :bonk: :rotflmao:
Yeah, like Leech said! ;)
:scratch: :scratch: which one.......he says a lot of rubberish>>>>>>>>>> :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Rubberish... :scratch: Is that a combination of "rubbish" and 'jibberish?" :confused:
:rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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Like Leech said above! :bonk: :bonk: :rotflmao:
Yeah, like Leech said! ;)
:scratch: :scratch: which one.......he says a lot of rubberish>>>>>>>>>> :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Rubberish... :scratch: Is that a combination of "rubbish" and 'jibberish?" :confused:
:rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
Really, rubbish and jibberish. This all I hear most of the time on here! :moon:
https://youtu.be/ss2hULhXf04
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:doofus: :doofus: ph and you dont add to it!!!!!! :confused: :evil: :surrender: :bs: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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pot calling the kettle black... :scratch:
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Glenn should go into politics...there is a part time job for ya.
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Glenn should go into politics...there is a part time job for ya.
yea wont go there...not in todays world. i wouldnt last very long..i have opinions that some wouldnt like to hear!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
back 35 years ago i did actually run for city council didnt pan out so well. although one election i only lost by 8 votes.........pretty sure it was rigged!!!!!!! :sleazy: :sleazy:
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:shocked: :scratch: :doah:
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Glenn should go into politics...
yea wont go there...not in todays world.
How about show business?
Did anyone notice that ex-Vikings wide receiver, Nate Burleson, is a regular co-host of the CBS Mornings news show?
Good lookin' bloke. Big smile. Brings lots of energy to the set.
Glenn, you could do that, ja?
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Glenn should go into politics...
yea wont go there...not in todays world.
How about show business?
Did anyone notice that ex-Vikings wide receiver, Nate Burleson, is a regular co-host of the CBS Mornings news show?
Good lookin' bloke. Big smile. Brings lots of energy to the set.
Glenn, you could do that, ja?
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: naw......i like to remain low profile. i got enough issues with women already!!!!!!!! :evil: :sleazy: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Glenn should go into politics...
yea wont go there...not in todays world.
How about show business?
Did anyone notice that ex-Vikings wide receiver, Nate Burleson, is a regular co-host of the CBS Mornings news show?
Good lookin' bloke. Big smile. Brings lots of energy to the set.
Glenn, you could do that, ja?
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: naw......i like to remain low profile. i got enough issues with women already!!!!!!!! :evil: :sleazy: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
If you'd just lay off the Hai Karate, you'd be like the rest of us. :bonk:
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I suppose you all heard that Dalvin Cook is on Covid quarantine. Will be out for at least 10 days. I don't know if he is sick or tested positive or what. Will miss Rams game for sure and possible the GB game.
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Yep but Maddision is back, he ain't to shabby either. That rookie that was the Vikings punt returner impressed me the last game. Guess he's got some pretty fast wheels to.
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:scratch: Yeah, but he's an Ia St guy, so............................ ! :nerd: :rolleyes: :smiley:
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:scratch: Yeah, but he's an Ia St guy, so............................ ! :nerd: :rolleyes: :smiley:
:doofus: :doofus: :blablabla: :blablabla: :pouty: :doofus: :pouty: :nerd: :nerd: :rotflmao:
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I suppose you all heard that Dalvin Cook is on Covid quarantine. Will be out for at least 10 days. I don't know if he is sick or tested positive or what. Will miss Rams game for sure and possible the GB game.
This could get pretty interesting around playoffs if someone pays off a few doctors to pull some player off teams! :scratch:
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so.........is that tight azz boar gonna run his contest this week??????????? :confused: :scratch: :doah: :evil: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
also just a heads up......i'll be doing the playoff thing again this year!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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Thanks Glenn I will get on it right now. :crazy:
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Thanks Glenn I will get on it right now. :crazy:
hey it's boars gig and he's slackin. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Blah blah blah..
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Blah blah blah..
crabby pants!!! :rotflmao:
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i see reading MSN the vikings added the backup QB Mannion and Rasid Hill, an OL to the rona list.....i bet Zimmer is fit to be tied!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
yesterday Jim Souhan, a reporter down in the cities, wrote an article just ripping the shreds of Cook, Cousins and Harrsion Smith and others for not vacinating, calling them traitors to the team.
mainly because Cook, Cousins, and Smith are the highest paid on the team................
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Well they better finally have Mond suited up and ready to go. Aaron Donald will be slapping Quirk around like a monkey.
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That time of year glenn, cant wait till its over
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That time of year glenn, cant wait till its over
:scratch: :scratch: i dont know but i like watching football..............good thing the defense is playing....... :confused: :pouty:
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:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :confused: :doah: :doah: :doah: :doah:
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Sad to say, but I think the last few games the Vik's are going to get Rammed and Packed! :undecided:
Well, we got Rammed. Now just the Packing next week and that should be a season and playoff hopes good by!
Sad to say. :surrender: :surrender:
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Time for a new OC in my opinion. Tired of one yard passes on third and seven. Didn't like to hear the comment from Jefferson about the team attitude in locker room "flat" before the game. This kid has a bright future in the NFL and if he can't make the most of it here he'll go somewhere else. I'd like to see him retire with a purple, gold and white jersey on. Just my $ .02. :coffee:
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Will Zimmer get fired today??? Tomorrow is the first day that teams can start interviewing Assistant coaches from other teams. Probably not....
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:scratch: We got gashed by their running game :doah: & didn't get enough pts of the TO's. :sad: Still managed to get back in the game until the TD on the punt return. That was the last straw IMO. :pouty:
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Will Zimmer get fired today??? Tomorrow is the first day that teams can start interviewing Assistant coaches from other teams. Probably not....
If he does, it maybe in more ways then one! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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The game was more about the Rams not making plays. Stafford missed guys running open all game long. They could have, should have hung 50 on the Vikings yesterday.
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https://vikingsterritory.com/2021/general-news/the-weirdest-vikings-ravens-stat-you-can-possibly-imagine
Scroll down and check out this interesting stat my kid found.
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We'll see if history repeats itself.
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yea ole Zimmy......he didnt look none to impressed or happy when they showed his interview on the news last night.
there is alot of things that need to happen if the vikings can even make the playoffs. next week in GB should take care of that!!!!! :confused:
they should tank them remaining games to move up in the draft a little!!!!!!! :sleazy: :smoking:
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Markn said Jefferson said the locker room was "flat". That is all on the coaches!!!
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They need a younger head coach with offensive experience. Spielman might have to go also. They will lose to the Pukes on Sunday to eliminate any playoff chances. Then the Wilfs will have to make some decisions.
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It is so close to the end of the season now that I think they wait.
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It is so close to the end of the season now that I think they wait.
yea they'll wait. read a piece the other day, and i liked where it was going. hire KC offense coordinator..........that Eric Binemeny !!!!!!!!!
then ole Zimmy can go back to his ranch and play with his new GF, er..........toys!!!!!!!! :evil: :rotflmao: maybe take cousins with as a farmhand!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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not that its going to matter much but the dolphins beat the saints last night to help the vikings a tad!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
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not that its going to matter much but the dolphins beat the saints last night to help the vikings a tad!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
Give it up!
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not that its going to matter much but the dolphins beat the saints last night to help the vikings a tad!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
Give it up!
nope :tut: not gonna happen.
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not that its going to matter much but the dolphins beat the saints last night to help the vikings a tad!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
like it even matters!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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not that its going to matter much but the dolphins beat the saints last night to help the vikings a tad!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
like it even matters!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:pouty: that's what I said. :confused: :pouty: :rotflmao:
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Won't be Bieniemy. He has some luggage in his closet that is scaring people away. Nobody can speculate on a coach until we know if Spielman gets swept out also. In todays NFL the GM & coach are joined at the hip.
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Sloter is back!!! Right on! Put him in already. LOL He was always a fan favorite. He is a big guy too.
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read where there game sunday night could be the coldest game ever played at Lambeau field...............
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That doesn't sound like fun at all. More like survival weather.
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Just read Cook is back on the active roster but Thielen had surgery on his ankle, done for the year.
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Great and Darn it.
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read where there game sunday night could be the coldest game ever played at Lambeau field...............
Colder than Ice Bowl with the Cowboys??? Why didn't they play the game at Lambeau the first time and have this one at Bank Stadium????
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I know. Wouldn't you think they would at least think about what they just did? Who wants to play in a dump like Lambeau Field is in December or January? Same with the crappy field in Chicago. Dead frozen grass.
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Yeah agree, no way with temperature like what can be this time of year in the northern part of the country, should humans have to be out in that and risk frostbite or worse
There's a reason the Canadians play there season when they do.
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:scratch: But the Cheeseheads love it!! :crazy: :doofus: :pouty: It's part of their home field advantage. :thumbs:
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Back when I was a Vikings fan they were dominant in cold weather, Minnesota type weather. Bud Grant wouldn't even allow heaters on the sidelines. Now the team and their fans are making excuses before the first play.....crybabies.
And furthermore, back then they didn't engage in childish celebrations after every routine play. Grant would have benched them. We need that kind of discipline again.
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These are different days Rooney. Now you have heated fields, heated benches, most of the stadiums are domed. Home field will definitely favor the Peckers, as it should.
BTW, we know longer walk uphill to school both ways, snowbanks are no longer 6' over our heads, can't bring a uncased shotgun to school, if you don't like a adult you don't have to respect them, you can tell them to F-off, the President of the United States gets the same respect a drug dealer gets today. It's a different place.
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Green Bay wouldn't have any home games after Dec 15. No home playoff games. "To Bad."..... :crazy: :crazy:
Get a decent stadium. :pouty: :pouty: :pouty:
Minus 20 keeps the Riff Raff out :cold: :cold: :cold:
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Yes, we are riff raff free up here, well except for the occasional Swede that slips through town. ;)
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i guess my whole point with my post was what that cold of temps can do to your body. fans can somewhat dress for it, look at the players and the clothes, uniforms they wear??? each half is 30 minutes of playing time, in reality time its like an hour and a half, at the temps there forecasting...........the weather terrorist tell you frostbite and worse can happen being exposed in 10 minutes.
they talk about player saftey in all other aspects..................
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Hey Glenn, I read on IDO your boy Cousins is out vs the Peckers.
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Hey Glenn, I read on IDO your boy Cousins is out vs the Peckers.
really!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: i wanna change my pick!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
i bet he did that on purpose, so he can sit on his warm cozy couch!!!!!!!! :confused: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: and not get blamed for getting booted from the playoff picture!!!!!
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i guess my whole point with my post was what that cold of temps can do to your body. fans can somewhat dress for it, look at the players and the clothes, uniforms they wear??? each half is 30 minutes of playing time, in reality time its like an hour and a half, at the temps there forecasting...........the weather terrorist tell you frostbite and worse can happen being exposed in 10 minutes.
they talk about player saftey in all other aspects..................
Dang, funny they don't have a UNION to represent the players on these important safety issues.
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Yup.....he has Covid.
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i guess my whole point with my post was what that cold of temps can do to your body. fans can somewhat dress for it, look at the players and the clothes, uniforms they wear??? each half is 30 minutes of playing time, in reality time its like an hour and a half, at the temps there forecasting...........the weather terrorist tell you frostbite and worse can happen being exposed in 10 minutes.
they talk about player saftey in all other aspects..................
Dang, funny they don't have a UNION to represent the players on these important safety issues.
:rotflmao: fool me once... :mooning: not going there!! :mooning:
Follow the money. It's MANAGEMENTS responsibility to provide a safe work environment, unions just see to it they do it. :sleazy:
Have a good new years my friend. :happy1:
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Makes sense as to why they brought back Sloter, they've musta know for a few days. Hopefully whoever plays will do better than chicken chit Cousins anyhow..
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Cousins is the starter because the Vikings have nobody better.
Vikings aren't a play-off team anyway.
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Cousins is the starter because the Vikings have nobody better.
Vikings aren't a play-off team anyway.
not as long as cousins is on the roster. :sleazy: :evil: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: Uffda... Did that Jim Souhan torch cousins :happy1: :rotflmao:
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Good for him, as he should. This organization has tried over the years but just can't seem to get over the hump. The Wild made a move and brought in a GM that dumped and moved aging contracts and players. The Wilfs have been making money every season, the ball is in there hands to move to the next level.
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Yup Souhan hit the nail on the head. I have read sort of as a joke but it may be in play here this week. If you want to get out of something just hang out near people with covid. They when you test positive you can stay home. Sounds like a Cousins thing to me.
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Minus 20 keeps the Riff Raff out :cold: :cold: :cold:
It used to... but not anymore.
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The Wild made a move and brought in a GM that dumped and moved aging contracts and players.
The GM dumped some aging, Prima Donna contracts that were cancer in the locker room. For as much as I liked the idea of Parise and Sutter, they were two or three years into doing more harm than good. It seems they were demanding special treatment and playing time behind the scenes (and getting it) - which their diminishing skills should not have warranted - and that pissed off the rest of the team. Now, those guys with their "no trade" clause are gone and the team is doing better DESPITE the guaranteed salaries the Wild is still paying them.
Just think how good they could be / would be if they didn't overpay (with too long, "no trade") contracts for Parise and Sutter. :bonk: :sad: :angry:
The Wilfs have been making money every season, the ball is in there hands to move to the next level.
And speaking of over-paying... There were NFL analysts that warned Vikings front office and fans that Kapt. Kirk was over-rated in Washington - lots of stats - but not the type of leadership that makes teammates better.
But the Vikes were in win-now mode, and they felt they had to over pay to get the best available option while their Superbowl "window" was open.
They didn't have to extend Kirk's contract, but they did anyway. And they could have drafted Mac Jones, but they didn't do that either.
And now that Superbowl "window" is nailed shut, we are still overpaying for a .500 quarterback, and the heir apparent is not currently on the roster.
Yes, it is up to the Wilf's to make the next move, because Spielman/Zim haven't done it on their own.
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I agree 100%. My favorite players disappointed me the most. Cook, Thielen, Smith etc... They didn't seem to think the team was important to them this year. And it wasn't.
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I don't know... I think you're being a little hard on Thielen.
He had 10 TD catches in 12 games before he got hurt. (Jefferson only has 9 TD catches in 16 games.) And with the emergence of Jefferson, more targets went to him than Thielen in the first 15 games before Thielen got hurt: 92 (Thielen) to 137 (Jefferson).
And It ain't Adam's fault if Zim won't let Klint Kubiak call plays for Kapt. Kirk to throw the ball down field to Thielen - or that with Jefferson's speed, Justin got more of the deep routes while they used Adam for the short/intermediate routes.
But to me the kicker (in Thielen's favor) was seeing how pi$$ed Thielen looked when he re-injurer his ankle in the Rams game and knew he was out for good. He was playing hurt and was trying to gut it out.
I'm giving Adam a pass.
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A little humor to this thread...
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And I'm not trying to pile onto your take, LPS, but I'm sure about Cook disappointing either.
Certainly no one should be happy about his pending domestic violence issues, but I think our offensive line play is as much to blame for Cook's production reduction. Our line seems to be pretty good at pass protection (among the fewest stacks given up in the league), but they ain't so good at run blocking. And Offensive Coordinator play calling and/or the lack of imaginative plays didn't help Cookie either.
I mean... how many times were you sitting in your Barcalounger and said, "Now they're goona run Cook up the gut. Wanna bet they're goona run Cook up the gut? See! They ran Cook right up the gut." And guess what :confused: The defense knew it too! :bonk: :bonk: :bonk:
But if there is a saving grace to Cook's season, I'd say it was when he got back into the lineup playing with a separated shoulder. Just imagine all the other Prima Donna "professional" athletes who would would have said "F^%# !t" on a losing team and sat out the rest of the season and continued to collect their pay.
P.S. And if I compare Cook to the Vikings last great running back, Adrian Peterson, I like Cook better because he can catch the ball and is willing to block on pass protection. It got to be that they took AP out of the game on passing downs because he was useless blocking - which to me is nothing more than selfish playing.
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No hockey fan in the state of Minnesota wasn't doing cartwheels on that July 4th day.
The Vikings brought in the top AVAILABLE quarterback.
Sometimes things work as planned, sometimes we know it will be ugly but they tried......can the Twins say the same thing?
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No hockey fan in the state of Minnesota wasn't doing cartwheels on that July 4th day.
The Vikings brought in the top AVAILABLE quarterback.
Sometimes things work as planned, sometimes we know it will be ugly but they tried......can the Twins say the same thing?
I agree with you completely. We all knew those 13 year/no-trade contracts for Parise and Sutter were too long and they'd be well past their prime at the tail end. However, I don't think anyone could have predicted the adverse affect they would have on the other players in the locker room. The Wild were more or less forced to trade away younger talent because they refused to put out effort night-in, night-out with Parise and Sutter on the team - who could not be dumped. Yeah, that's on those players who gave up on the team - you have to be professional - but it does go to show you there is a very high price to be paid when you overpay for talent. :doah:
Kirk Cousins WAS the best available QB at the time. The Vikes should have figured out what they had after two years and started thinking about Plan B. But collectively they decided to stick with the "Devil the knew" and signed him to an extension instead of letting Kapt. Kirk play out the last year of his deal. :mad1:
And the Twins... they are still the Twins. They aren't getting any better by keeping the talent they have on the roster. They are still to cheap to spend to add starting pitching that will be the ante to get them to the next level. :surrender:
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I haven't seen any former Wild players lighting the NHL up.
Is what it is. Even if I win Powerball I won't have enough to buy a team so i'll just whine online. :pouty:
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I think Zim wants to get fired. :bonk:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIMDOWbXsAkw7E-.jpg)
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Can't say that I think Zim is a good judge of talent anymore. We dumped some players that are doing just fine on other teams. The common denominator is Zim.
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Its that time of year, Vikings fans!!! The season isn't over, but Your Purple and Gold have been eliminated. All we can do now is look forward to the draft. :surrender:
The Vikings Draft Order Scenarios (https://purpleptsd.com/the-vikings-draft-order-scenarios/) This article has way too many words - a lot like me, but the bottom line is this.
They are at #12 now.
If they loose to Da Bears :blues brothers: next week and some other things happen, then might move to 11 or 10. If everything goes their way - and it won't - they could move up no farther than 8th.
If they win - and why would they? - they will still probably stay where they are. Worst case is they move down to 14.
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I have a hard time putting up with PA's ego but I do listen to KFAN for Vikes news. His guests are good and he should shut the ___ up and let them talk. Today was a press conference with Zim. In his last two conferences the questions dried up before the end of the allotted time. Today someone asked if he was going to play some rookies so we can see how they do since the game didn't mean much. All he said was "no". There were no more questions.
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Opinion: It's Time for the Minnesota Vikings to Fire Mike Zimmer and Rick Spielman (https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/opinion-its-time-minnesota-vikings-fire-mike-zimmer-rick-spielman)
... Then came the Cousins era and four years of mind-boggling mediocrity...
This is a pretty good Sports Illustrated piece that sums up Zim's tenure with The Purple. Its not very long to read.
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I will read it. This morning they were giving stats on the Defense and the last 4 years I think they have been at their lowest rating. Coincidently it is the same years Quirk has been here. I suppose all the money he costs prevented us from keeping a balanced team. We may have been much better with a journeyman QB and have the rest of the team in good shape
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Look what happened to Seattle... All was good when Russell was on his rookie contract. After "he got paid" they couldn't afford as many skilled veteran players, they fell back into mediocrity, and now Russell wants to go to a winning team. :confused:
The Chiefs had to pay Mahomes too. They have a good record this year, but in some of the games they started to show some vulnerability. We'll have to see if they start to slide in the next couple of years or maybe they figure out how to pay a QB top dollar and still find other young, cheap talent elsewhere.
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I will read it. This morning they were giving stats on the Defense and the last 4 years I think they have been at their lowest rating. Coincidently it is the same years Quirk has been here. I suppose all the money he costs prevented us from keeping a balanced team. We may have been much better with a journeyman QB and have the rest of the team in good shape
yeah, can you say Case Kennem
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read today Capt Kirk wants to finish his career in Minn..
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:angry2: Well if it ends soon that would be ok.
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read today Capt Kirk wants to finish his career in Minn..
Ha that’s funny!!!
Everyone in MN wants him gone!
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read today Capt Kirk wants to finish his career in Minn..
Ha that’s funny!!!
Everyone in MN wants him gone!
yup I agree with that too!!!
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https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/cousins-fresh-off-bout-with-covid-says-he-wants-to-finish-his-career-with-the-vikings
here's what I seen...
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read today Capt Kirk wants to finish his career in Minn..
Ha that’s funny!!!
Everyone in MN wants him gone!
I don't, well at least until somebody can show me somebody better that they sign.
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read today Capt Kirk wants to finish his career in Minn..
Why wouldn’t he? Relatively easy to have good stats when the longest pass you throw is four yards and you never need to expose yourself to risk. The money is good and the performance expectations are pretty low. No need to show leadership.
Besides, the only teams that would be interested aren’t likely to be going anywhere in the remaining years of his career.
There’s too much money tied up in a handful of players on this team. No room left to build any depth.When the big money guys are out because of injury or Covid the lack of quality backup is very apparent.
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read today Capt Kirk wants to finish his career in Minn..
Ha that’s funny!!!
Everyone in MN wants him gone!
I don't, well at least until somebody can show me somebody better that they sign.
Actually, his stats aren't all that bad. It would be interesting to see if he could do better with new coaches and game plan. :scratch:
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I will read it. This morning they were giving stats on the Defense and the last 4 years I think they have been at their lowest rating. Coincidently it is the same years Quirk has been here. I suppose all the money he costs prevented us from keeping a balanced team. We may have been much better with a journeyman QB and have the rest of the team in good shape
yeah, can you say Case Kennem
Wish I could like that a 1000 times Glenn. That is what I always said.
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read today Capt Kirk wants to finish his career in Minn..
Why wouldn’t he? Relatively easy to have good stats when the longest pass you throw is four yards and you never need to expose yourself to risk. The money is good and the performance expectations are pretty low. No need to show leadership.
Besides, the only teams that would be interested aren’t likely to be going anywhere in the remaining years of his career.
There’s too much money tied up in a handful of players on this team. No room left to build any depth.When the big money guys are out because of injury or Covid the lack of quality backup is very apparent.
Spot on.
You know, Kapt Kirk has the arm to heave balls down field, and despite his "gosh, golly, gee aw shucks" style - and I think he is willing do fling it when told to do so. It's just that he must be afraid Zim will yell at him if he changes the play at the line. Jefferson and Thielen are great receivers and the Vikes should be throwing deep 50/50 balls to them all the time, but that goes against Zim's grain. How many times in the past several weeks have we seen the Vikes secondary torched by the "slightly underthrown" deep ball. Its indefensible. When the receiver slows down, the defender runs into him - pass interference. And heck, a lot of times those quys catch the ball anyway.
Remember when Spielman first came in? :confused: His first job was to cut popular aging veterans with big salaries. They weren't washed up yet, but they were expensive and Spielman was committed to starting over. Those guys he cut were NOT Spielman's players and now the shoe is on the other foot. I think we've seen with the defense that he and/or Zim are unwilling to do that. They tied up a lot of money on older players, "their guys", who get hurt and don't play.
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Look what happened to Seattle... All was good when Russell was on his rookie contract. After "he got paid" they couldn't afford as many skilled veteran players, they fell back into mediocrity, and now Russell wants to go to a winning team. :confused:
The Chiefs had to pay Mahomes too. They have a good record this year, but in some of the games they started to show some vulnerability. We'll have to see if they start to slide in the next couple of years or maybe they figure out how to pay a QB top dollar and still find other young, cheap talent elsewhere.
:scratch: These guys seemed to have a blueprint on how to do it but nobody else seems to be able to duplicate it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady%e2%80%93Belichick_era
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Look what happened to Seattle... All was good when Russell was on his rookie contract. After "he got paid" they couldn't afford as many skilled veteran players, they fell back into mediocrity, and now Russell wants to go to a winning team. :confused:
The Chiefs had to pay Mahomes too. They have a good record this year, but in some of the games they started to show some vulnerability. We'll have to see if they start to slide in the next couple of years or maybe they figure out how to pay a QB top dollar and still find other young, cheap talent elsewhere.
:scratch: These guys seemed to have a blueprint to do it but nobody else seems to be able to duplcate it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady%e2%80%93Belichick_era
Indeed.
Belichick will go down as the greatest head football coach in history. Why? Yes, because of Tom Brady, but Belichick was always builds his roster and adapts his game plans to the the players he has. He changes his scheme on a game-by-game basis to exploit the opponent's weakness and cover his own. .500 record coaches like Zimmer and Brad "Chili" Childress are inflexible and insist their players adapt to their schemes. Their results speak for themselves.
I don't know if Brady was ever the highest paid QB in the league, but he has been the best for a very long time. And he didn't get to that plateau solely because of his talent and experience (which helps), but rather because his work ethic and leadership demands everyone try harder and become better. I didn't get the impression that any Vikings 2nd string cornerbacks tried any harder because they were in awe of Kapt. Kirk's gravitas.
P.S. The other thing Belichick has a knack for is trading/cutting skilled veteran players one year too early rather than one year too late. This way he maximizes trade values and avoids giving contract extensions to older players who tend to get hurt more and play less.
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I agree, & I think TB12 actually renegotiated his deal to free up some cap space at least a couple times in order for them to be able to go get some FA's in areas the team needed help with. He easily could've demanded more $ but he knew if he did it would probably hurt the team's chances of winning another SB. I'm also pretty sure 1 of the last times he redid his deal was when he actually went to Kraft with the idea himself.
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New England sprinkles in a couple of studs on defense to compliment the guys who are just below star status. That keeps the over-all defense high while not pouring the financial resources all into the defense. On offense it's the same. Other than Brady & Moss they never had any #1 studs. But their O line was all near the top without costing the top tier money. Same with running backs & tight ends.
Belichick would rather have 6 second round draft choices than 2 or 3 first rounders. Spielman on the other hand likes to stockpile fourth thru sixth round choices.
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Belichick, himself, credits what he learned as a DC under Parcells with the NYG for much of his success as a HC in the NFL. His ability to change his defense or even invent a new 1 to take away the other teams offensive strength is 1 of the main reasons for his success IMO. Josh Daniels does much the same only in reverse, looks for a weakness & then exploits it, as OC for them.
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Belichick, himself, credits what he learned as a DC under Parcells with the NYG for much of his success as a HC in the NFL. His ability to change his defense or even invent a new 1 to take away the other teams offensive strength is 1 of the main reasons for his success IMO. Josh Daniels does much the same only in reverse, looks for a weakness & then exploits it, as OC for them.
Didn't ol' Zimmy also "study" under Parcells? :scratch:
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There is a difference between studying & learning. ;)
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Would sure like to see Josh Daniels for our coach.
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Would sure like to see Josh Daniels for our coach.
I agree. I think it's been proven he had the right idea in Denver. He just maybe didn't go about it in the right manner. I think he would clean the ship from top to bottom and want to rebuild with "his" players & coaches. Would the fans here go for a complete rebuild? It wouldn't bother me but some guys get pretty wrapped up in their football.
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Would sure like to see Josh Daniels for our coach.
I agree. I think it's been proven he had the right idea in Denver. He just maybe didn't go about it in the right manner. I think he would clean the ship from top to bottom and want to rebuild with "his" players & coaches. Would the fans here go for a complete rebuild? It wouldn't bother me but some guys get pretty wrapped up in their football.
It didn't take long for the fans to get behind Spielman and Zim's rebuilding plan when they came in.
And I don't know if Josh Daniels is available. If the Patriot's owner Kraft gave Daniels "the promise" to be the next head coach - that is as good as being one of the family as far as Kraft is concerned.
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I like his dad Jack.
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I think he had an offer to be a head coach somewhere a few years ago and decided to stay where he is at. Wanting him and getting him are two different things. BUT who wouldn't want to be a Vikings Head Coach? :sleazy:
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Kraft is taking good care of him too, as he's getting paid what a HC that is just starting out in the league gets. Heard he is the highest paid OC in the league @ $4 mil too.
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yea i dont think that Daniels is going anywhere. i'm not sure about speilman yet. :scratch: but even before zimmer goes that OC needs to be walked out the door first.
its well know zimmy dont like cousins.......but zimmy didnt like case either................ :confused: :doah:
i read yesterday the Wilfs, and company are meeting sunday before the game to make some decisions. the scary part of that article was, the Wilfs are making a pile of money....so why change things?????
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its well know zimmy dont like cousins.......but zimmy didnt like case either................ :confused: :doah:
There is problem. Zim don't like anyone who ain't a stud defensive player. Screw up on defense and he don't like you either.
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Everybody says Cousins isn't the guy, well who you want to replace him with? Without a quarterback in this league you are dead. Doesn't matter who the coach & GM are you need a quarterback. The league is designed for offense so go get a offensive coach.
I've said for years Spielman has to go, Zim can go with.
One thing about Zim is he ran a clean locker room as far as arrests and interaction with the cops. Something to be said for that.
Best avenue would be for all us fans to find something else to care about, after all it's only a sport. :smoking:
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Just read a good article on SKOR north. They kind of predict a Cousins trade to Cleveland and we get Mayfield on a one year try him out deal. A CBS leak says Zimmer is gone but Spielman may get promoted to a higher title and may not be involved in player or coach signings. ?? WE get some good draft pics in the deal.
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Just read a good article on SKOR north. They kind of predict a Cousins trade to Cleveland and we get Mayfield on a one year try him out deal. A CBS leak says Zimmer is gone but Spielman may get promoted to a higher title and may not be involved in player or coach signings. ?? WE get some good draft pics in the deal.
Thats the ultimate throw mud against the wall and see what sticks.
Who would make that trade? Zim? Not if he is fired. Spielman? Not if he is getting promoted. Ziggy? He's the guy who brought Cousins here. And why Baker? No, if Zim is out they won't rock the boat without the new coaches blessing. Now, if they hire a assistant from Cleveland as coach it might make a bit of sense.
With the strike in baseball you oughta see the crap the writers are dreaming up!
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:tut: :tut: now dutchy........the baseball thing as i understand it is a lockout.......different then a strike!!!! owners locked them out!!!!
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:tut: :tut: now dutchy........the baseball thing as i understand it is a lockout.......different then a strike!!!! owners locked them out!!!!
Whatever. The results are the same. The difference to me is only the owners locked them out BEFORE the union went on strike. The CBA ended, had the owners not locked the door would the players have reported under the old contract terms?
Lockout.......strike......just words to garner public sympathy.
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We should start a pool to see how many minutes it is after the game before they announce officially announce Zimmer's firing.
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We should start a pool to see how many minutes it is after the game before they announce officially announce Zimmer's firing.
180 minutes
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1 hour
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21 hrs.
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24 hours.
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Its a home game, so it will probably happen sooner than later. If they had to fly home, the Wilf's might wait until they got back to town or the next day.
But the game gets over at about 3:30... I'm saying the news drops before the afternoon games are done.
3 hours.
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2 hours. Will hear it during the second game.
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maybe by halftime the way it looks!!!!!! :smoking: :doah: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
i see where they also got the top tier TV announcers too!!!!!! :crazy: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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My thoughts exactly!!
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We should start a pool to see how many minutes it is after the game before they announce officially announce Zimmer's firing.
that OC better be running into zimmer on the way out the door too!!!!!!!!! :confused:
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K kubiak will get a job as a quarterback coach somewhere.
It would have been good to see if he actually might be one of those "young offensive minded" coaches every one wants had he not been under zim's thumb the whole time.
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I agree Zimmerman departure will be announced before the afternoon games are over. By the way if anyone would like to the game live there’s plenty of good seats a available.
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its all about da money.......hope da bears hit a field go before 1/2 time!!!!!! :sleazy: :sleazy:
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I dont know if they announce bug thers chatter about the how he love the connect with the players the last 8 yrs
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why.............wouuld they kick a field goal and the end of the half and not try for the TD.........i mean what do they have to lose??????
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I dont know if they announce bug thers chatter about the how he love the connect with the players the last 8 yrs
Yeah, that was (one of) Zim's downfalls. he didn't have the guts to move on from any on "his" guys on defense. Zim had a league leading defense the first couple of years with those guys. These past two years, 29th and 31st.
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looks like JJ needs 43 recieving yards to break Moss single season record............go JJ!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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looks like JJ needs 43 recieving yards to break Moss single season record............go JJ!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
Give Moss another game and nobody catches him.
It's a farce the big deal they are making of the records, they have a additional game.
I had the Vikings with 27 I think, I stopped in to watch a couple of minutes now onto something else.
it's 24-17 with 8 left in the 4th.
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looks like JJ needs 43 recieving yards to break Moss single season record............go JJ!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
Give Moss another game and nobody catches him.
It's a farce the big deal they are making of the records, they have a additional game.
I had the Vikings with 27 I think, I stopped in to watch a couple of minutes now onto something else.
it's 24-17 with 8 left in the 4th.
but they've extended the schedule many times.................
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is kubiak, zimmer and speilman still employed!!!!!! :evil: :rotflmao:
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looks like JJ needs 43 recieving yards to break Moss single season record............go JJ!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
Zimmer that chicken*bleep*... taking a knee instead of getting Jefferson a couple more tosses.
How's that for a nice FU to all those players he "loved" so much as he is on the way out the door. :angry:
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Cousins had his chance on Osbornes td, JJ was wide open on the other side. Then again it's just stats..
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Cousins had his chance on Osbornes td, JJ was wide open on the other side. Then again it's just stats..
:pouty: it's ALWAYS cousins fault. :rotflmao:
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Cousins had his chance on Osbornes td, JJ was wide open on the other side. Then again it's just stats..
:pouty: it's ALWAYS cousins fault. :rotflmao:
It will be interesting to see if Cousins addresses that question during a news conference. It may be as simple as he saw Osborn first and didn't even look Jefferson's way. Or maybe being a right handed quarterback, it was easier to throw to the left corner of the end zone rather than reset his feet to throw right to JJ.
All that being said... When was the last time Kapt. Kirk had two receivers wide open in the end zone where he had to make a decision? :confused:
Then again... It was 'Da Bears. :blues brothers: ;)
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They ran a quick screen for JJ on the 1st play of the 2nd to last possesion & he couldn't catch it so the last time they had the ball Kubiak probably just said the he!! with it.
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I have always liked Zim even though I thought it is time for a change. Now my opinion of him has completely changed. He heard the crowd chant Jefferson and they showed him looking up at them. Just to be an azz he didn't let Jefferson attempt to break the record because he is pissed at the audience and the press! SO Zim I lost my respect for you.
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just heard Zim is gone and so is Speilman
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I guess I got caught up in all the hysteria when I predicted Zim's firing hours after the game. I should have given Zigy and Mark credit for being stand-up guys. They will want it to be done as best as it can be - because there is no good way to do those things. The Wilf's want to build a reputation among league coaches that theirs is a quality organization worth coming to.
But how about this for a scenario...
NFL insider links Patriot's Josh McDaniels disciple to Vikings head coaching job (https://thevikingage.com/2022/01/10/bill-belichick-josh-mcdaniels-minnesota-vikings-head-coach/)
It’s understandable that McDaniels would prefer to go to a team that is in need of a new general manager since he’s watched Patriots head coach Bill Belichick achieve success by also being the team’s general manager for more than a decade.
But don't those new "offensive guru" coaches want to go to a place where they have a skilled quarterback in place? :confused: Enter Kapt. Kirk!!!
Kirk Cousins gives interesting response to questions about Mike Zimmer (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/kirk-cousins-gives-interesting-response-to-questions-about-mike-zimmer/ar-AASB7Gu?ocid=entnewsntp)
At times, it has seemed like Zimmer did not really have faith in Cousins as his quarterback. It’s certainly plausible that Cousins isn’t all that enamored with Zimmer, either.
Opinions vary on Cousins. You may be skeptical about his overall leadership, but he can make throws when he is allowed to do so. He had a slow start - production wise - the first couple of years, but when he figured it out, he was putting up pretty good numbers and making plays. Problem is... In Cousins' last two, best two years, Zim's once vaunted defense was at the very bottom of the league.
SO... McDaniel's to the Vikes with Cousins in the last year of his deal. McDaniel's takes the shackles off Cousins to see what he can do with the offensive weapons in a "prove it" season: the O-Line is improving, Irv Smith should be back, Jefferson has arrived, Cook is a warrior. Let's go!!!
But this isn't a superbowl formula yet, because the defense still sucks, but at least we'd finally get to see if Kirk is the guy under a guy with legit offensive bona fides.
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Black Monday is here.....Vikes fire both Zimmer and Spielman this morning. Dolphins, Bears, and Denver also fire coaches.
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The look on his face when he left the field yday made me think he already knew he was done.
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That's the thing about Zim. He don't give a $#!T about what other people think - players, fans - It don't matter.
Yeah, everyone knew it was time for a change. But just think about how the fan base will remember him. Giving Jefferson a chance to break the record - not even a guarantee, just an opportunity - he would have left an endearing memory for the fans and he would have been beloved and respected for it.
But by being a hard A$$ to teach JJ a lesson in humility, he was also giving a big FU to the fans - denying them one last opportunity for fans to cheer in a season that went pear-shaped early.
Unfortunately, despite his success, Vikes fans will remember Zim with the likes of Chili and Steckle instead of Grant and Burnsie - all because he took a knee at the end of his last game.
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Zim and Spielman both fired.
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:happy1: :happy1:
https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/mike-zimmer-rick-spielman-fired-nfl/
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Yeah, Zim
has HAD ;) a way of alienating player's who ain't "his guys" on defense. Remember all that draft capital Spielman had to burn up because Zim ran Daniel Carlson out of town? :angry:
Did anyone catch the comment in the Rams/Raiders game last night that Raider Daniel Carlson hasn't missed a field goal at home in two years? :doah:
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wel with ole zimmy gone, wonder how long barr will be around??????? barr wasnt a bad player......when he wasnt hurt, and he was definitely zims little pet for some reason!!!!!!
i like that biennemy guy from KC!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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Both those late games were really good. :happy1: :cool: Wouldn't have minded seein the Rams & Chargers win though, hope the playoffs are like that. :crazy:
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wel with ole zimmy gone, wonder how long barr will be around??????? barr wasnt a bad player......when he wasnt hurt, and he was definitely zims little pet for some reason!!!!!!
i like that biennemy guy from KC!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
Y'all remember when Bieniemy was the running back's coach for the Vikes?
Still, opinions are mixed. Here is Sansever's take: Sansevere: Zimmer is a goner but don’t replace him with Bieniemy (https://vikingsterritory.com/2021/general-news/sansevere-zimmer-is-a-goner-but-dont-replace-him-with-bieniemy)
I don’t understand the fascination some fans and media folk have with Bieniemy. Yeah, he’s the offensive coordinator with the Kansas City Chiefs. But he doesn’t call the plays. Head coach Andy Reid does.
To me, Bieniemy is another Brad Childress, who didn’t call the plays when he was the Philadelphia Eagles’ offensive coordinator under Reid.
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I've heard some say he has baggage so stay away from him. I don't know what that means but I am wary of him now.
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heard that to LPS!!!!!!!
i'm wondering how long it will be before Jefferson says something regarding zimmers.......i dont care comment.
the more that comes out about zimmer, the more i'm beginning to think zimmy new this was coming and just gave the middle finger to the whole organization............
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Even though I would like to see a younger coach I would like to give Carroll a try. I would even like it more if he brought Wilson with him.
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I've heard some say he has baggage so stay away from him. I don't know what that means but I am wary of him now.
:scratch: https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/1/6/18169793/bengals-coach-search-chiefs-eric-bieniemy-vance-joseph-broncos How's that for a little baggage? :confused:
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On KFAN this morning Greenway sounded like he has a lot of respect for Doug Pederson.
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I've heard some say he has baggage so stay away from him. I don't know what that means but I am wary of him now.
Media likes to over-simplify NFL head coach moves an opportunities and it is fashionable to keep writing on the race angle since there are relatively few black head coaches.
Fact of the matter is, not every "hot" offensive or defensive coordinator - regardless of race or how much dues they've paid - is cut out to be a successful head coach. And the Vikings history with Leslie Frazier and now Zimmer bear that out.
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meh, just about everyones got skeletons. its in the past...need to move forward.
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On KFAN this morning Greenway sounded like he has a lot of respect for Doug Pederson.
Doug Pederson did weekly interviews with Dan Barreiro and sounded like a competent, stand-up guy; a good coach. I like him and wouldn't mind seeing him stay on as defensive coordinator. He probably learned a lot from Zim and has some ideas of his own. But that will all be up to the next GM/HC.
I'm not sure he'd be the best choice for the Vikings HC right now. Like I said in the earlier post, they need a guy who really knows how to keep an offense fresh so they can find out how good their offensive squad (Cousins) really can be.
(Like if you need 7 yards on 3rd down, how about sending the receivers out 8 yards instead of all those check-down routes and runs-up-the-gut to Cook? :confused: :doah: :angry:)
Either that or find a GM who can miraculously deal Cousins in the last ($45M cap hit) year of his contract and find a better franchise QB upgrade going forward.
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I've heard some say he has baggage so stay away from him. I don't know what that means but I am wary of him now.
meh, just about everyones got skeletons. its in the past...need to move forward.
:scratch: Just showin LPS what his baggage is! :rolleyes: :confused:
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Man, I hope this rumor is garbage.
Rumor: Vikings Have Been Linked to Lane Kiffin as Potential Head Coach Candidate (https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/rumor-vikings-linked-lane-kiffin-potential-head-coach-candidate-zimmer) :puke:
P.S. I need to relax. ...All these sports scribes speculating about the next head coach. Don't they need to hire a GM before anyone worries about who the coach is going to be? :confused:
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We should start a pool to see how many minutes it is after the game before they announce officially announce Zimmer's firing.
180 minutes
Looks like I win again!!
I was the only one to put minutes instead of hours before the Vikings fearless leader got the axe!
Good ridden!
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Big deal. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: Ya it took longer than I thought it would. Congrats. You have done well.
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Man, I hope this rumor is garbage.
Rumor: Vikings Have Been Linked to Lane Kiffin as Potential Head Coach Candidate (https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/rumor-vikings-linked-lane-kiffin-potential-head-coach-candidate-zimmer) :puke:
The Wilfs are saying they will hire a new GM before a head coach.
P.S. I need to relax. ...All these sports scribes speculating about the next head coach. Don't they need to hire a GM before anyone worries about who the coach is going to be? :confused:
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That's the thing about Zim. He don't give a $#!T about what other people think - players, fans - It don't matter.
Yeah, everyone knew it was time for a change. But just think about how the fan base will remember him. Giving Jefferson a chance to break the record - not even a guarantee, just an opportunity - he would have left an endearing memory for the fans and he would have been beloved and respected for it.
But by being a hard A$$ to teach JJ a lesson in humility, he was also giving a big FU to the fans - denying them one last opportunity for fans to cheer in a season that went pear-shaped early.
Unfortunately, despite his success, Vikes fans will remember Zim with the likes of Chili and Steckle instead of Grant and Burnsie - all because he took a knee at the end of his last game.
Zim doesn't deal with prima donna wide receivers very well. Thats how Diggs ended up in Buffalo.
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Stuff is starting to come out that Zim didn't get along with a lot of people...
Eric Kendricks’ revealing comments on Vikings’ locker room after Mike Zimmer firing (https://clutchpoints.com/vikings-news-eric-kendricks-revealing-comments-on-minnesota-locker-room-after-mike-zimmer-firing/)
When discussing Zimmer’s firing from the organization, Kendricks revealed that he and the ex-Vikings head coach didn’t have a particularly strong relationship. In fact, Kendricks described Zimmer as implementing a fear-based culture within the organization, something the linebacker is glad to see exit alongside the 65-year-old.
“No matter what your role is on the staff, you having a voice and being able to communicate things you think could facilitate wins. I think just having that voice, no matter how big your role is—it’s important to listen up and take each other’s opinions into account. I don’t think a fear-based organization is the way to go.”
I don't know if it was in a related report or somewhere else, apparently there were issues in the locker room early that certain coaches and star players got treated differently when they weren't vaccinated compared to the new guys. That didn't sit well with a lot of players - apparently including some veterans.
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Here is a really good article summing up Zim's tenure with the Vikings. Early on it reminds us of what happened before Cousins arrived.
Mike Zimmer set the bar high and then couldn't reach it (https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/matthew-coller-mike-zimmer-set-the-bar-high-and-then-couldnt-reach-it)
When Zimmer was hired by the Vikings in 2014, the team was in disarray. The Vikings had the worst defense in the NFL and no answer at quarterback. Two years later, they celebrated a division championship and lined up for a game-winning field goal against the Seattle Seahawks in the wild card round of the playoffs. Two years after that, they were one game away from the Super Bowl.
In some people’s eyes, Zimmer’s time in Minnesota will be defined by the things that got in the way of fulfilling the club’s potential. Whether it was Adrian Peterson’s absence in 2014, Blair Walsh’s shanked kick in 2015, Teddy Bridgewater’s injury in 2016 or Sam Bradford’s absence in 2017, the truth of the first four years of Zim was that the Vikings had to overcome problems that usually sink teams. Maybe there’s an alternate universe in which a healthy Bridgewater or Bradford either wins the No. 1 seed in the NFC in 2017 or beats the Philadelphia Eagles to earn a the team’s first Super Bowl appearance since the '70s but it was not to be, as fans would say, because Vikings.
Funny... All these years later, the Vikings have one of the worst defenses in the NFL and no answer at quarterback. :embarrassed:
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Kendricks said the team didn't like it when Zim said they were soft in that game. I'm thinking Zim didn't like it when Jefferson said the locker room was "flat" when he arrived for that other game. I think that is why he didn't make more of an effort the help Jefferson attain that record.
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Kendricks said the team didn't like it when Zim said they were soft in that game. I'm thinking Zim didn't like it when Jefferson said the locker room was "flat" when he arrived for that other game. I think that is why he didn't make more of an effort the help Jefferson attain that record.
:scratch: Interesting about Zim's grudge against Jefferson. Yeah, it was time for Zim to go.
Also in that article I linked... They talked about how we thought Diggs was being a Prima Donna getting himself traded off the team. Prior to that, behind the scenes, he was lobbying for the team to pass more. Obviously Zim wasn't hearing any of it.
And this echo's what Kendricks said. The players didn't feel they had a voice with the coaching staff. So now the rest is history.
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It is all starting to make sense
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"And this echo's what Kendricks said. The players didn't feel they had a voice with the coaching staff. So now the rest is history."
No players got fired yesterday. It's the coaches job to do what they believe best to get wins. It's the players job to execute.
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"And this echo's what Kendricks said. The players didn't feel they had a voice with the coaching staff. So now the rest is history."
No players got fired yesterday. It's the coaches job to do what they believe best to get wins. It's the players job to execute.
Yeah, but there is give and take. Yesterday's hard-nosed, old-school, my-way-or-the-highway approach to coaching has been demonstrated to be ineffective time after time in today's NFL.
I am no advocate in letting the inmates run the asylum, but you also catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
Football is a job unlike any other - and it is like all jobs...
If you don't think your boss is listening to your ideas and giving you the respect you think you deserve... you'll still do your job, but you won't go the extra mile.
And in football, if everyone doesn't go the extra mile, you don't win. Period.
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That's right Steve-O and without communication the whole team or business you are in suffers.
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lota of skuttlebutt about a new coach.........lane kiffin, awe no!!!!!! doug pederson is supposedly getting interviewed.
i think we bring ole uncle burnsie back!!!!!!!! :evil: :rotflmao:
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I read this morning that the Wilf's and Spielman had been talking about a new title for him for about a week before Black Monday. He arrived at the office around 7 expecting to get a new job and see Zimmer fired. They of course both got fired. Shocker for him.
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When Spielman and Zim took over, they cleaned house.
5 players a new Vikings regime could get rid of in 2022 (https://thevikingage.com/2022/01/12/players-new-minnesota-vikings-cut-2022/)
Danielle Hunter, defensive end
Danielle Hunter is an absolute monster when healthy, but he has a nearly $26M cap hit for 2022 if he stays on the roster. Releasing him would incur a dead cap penalty of approximately $7.5M if released before he is eligible for his roster bonus on March 20. Considering the salary cap situation for the Vikings, the new regime will need to decide if they want to attempt to trade Danielle Hunter, release him, or hope he can stay healthy and play him big bucks. This could be the hardest decision made this offseason.
Kirk Cousins, quarterback
Kirk has a cap hit of $45M this season after his money was continually kicked to the end of his contract to allow the team to sign other players. Now, Minnesota is on the hook for the entire amount unless they can find a way to trade him to a quarterback-needy team.
Otherwise, Cousins will likely get a contract extension that spreads his owed money out more evenly without making it top-heavy. But if the new GM and head coach don’t see Kirk as their guy going forward, Kirk may have taken his last snap for the team.
Harrison Smith, safety
Smith’s contract allows them to release the Pro Bowl safety for a dead cap of $7.66M compared to his cap hit of $13.4M. Saving a little under $6M to let him walk doesn’t seem like a bargain, but there are reasons to think it could be a possibility. Camryn Bynum showed potential as a rookie and either drafting a new safety or picking up a cheap free agent could make letting the 32-year-old defensive back go while planning for the future isn’t a terrible strategy. However, Smith’s more likely exit will be following the 2022 season when there is an out in his contract that will allow him to be released for a cap hit of $5.75M compared to a $17.2M cap hit. Odds are that will be when Minnesota makes their big decision on Smith, but if a youth movement is in order, several veterans including Smith could be on the chopping block.
Michael Pierce, defensive tackle
Signed by the Minnesota Vikings before the 2020 NFL season, Michael Pierce was brought in to stop teams from running the ball all over the defense. Sadly, that signing hasn’t resulted in what the team was hoping for. So far, Pierce has played eight games in his first two years in Minnesota due to sitting out 2020 with COVID-19 concerns and injuries in 2021. He has a cap hit of $10.2M but only has $4M guaranteed., making releasing him to save over $6M an appealing situation.
Adam Thielen, wide receiver
Much like Harrison Smith, most fans of the Minnesota Vikings would love to see Adam Thielen finish his career with the purple and gold, but his value is still very high, which could make him a big candidate to be traded. Minnesota could be looking to rebuild by moving on from many veterans and getting younger and cheaper at many positions. Releasing Thielen makes no sense since cutting him would only save about $5.7M, but trading him for draft capital is a different story.
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When Spielman and Zim took over, they cleaned house.
5 players a new Vikings regime could get rid of in 2022 (https://thevikingage.com/2022/01/12/players-new-minnesota-vikings-cut-2022/)
Danielle Hunter, defensive end
Kirk Cousins, quarterback
Harrison Smith, safety
Michael Pierce, defensive tackle
Adam Thielen, wide receiver
Hunter? Gone. Trouble staying healthy. Expensive contract. Six years in the league, his best years might be behind him. Bottom out and look for the next stud pass rusher in a future draft. I don't think Hunter would re-do his contact for a new regime - not even if Andre Paterson was the new Head Coach.
Cousins? Stays. $45M is way too much for Kapt. Kirk, but the old Vikings front office kept kicking that money down the road. The new guys will want to dump it somehow - either this year via trade (and which team would do that?) or next year by biting the bullet and letting the contract expire. I don't think they will extend him. Otherwise, if they want to keep him after the current contract, maybe they ask him to take a more team-friendly deal next time.
Smith? Gone after next year. I like the analysis that says it is easier to cut him after 2022, and there is merit in keeping an experienced vet in the backfield for at least another season as the defense changes guard.
Pierce? Gone. Only played 8 games in two years. They can save $6M in cap space by cutting a guy who has basically given them nothing - as the defense still can't stop the run even when he does play.
Thielen. Stays... maybe. The new guy will want to engender some good will with the new fans, and keeping a productive, fan-favorite player is a good way to do that. But if a team offers them a 2nd rounder or another, younger player in a position of great need, I'll bet they will be tempted to trade him.
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Here is a scathing indictment of Zimmer, from several sources, on the occasion of his departure. They even used the C-Word!
Picture Emerging That Zimmer Had Become a Cancer For the Vikings’ Team Culture, Locker Room (https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/1/10/22877388/picture-emerging-that-zimmer-had-become-a-cancer-for-the-vikings-team-culture-locker-room)
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I expected comments like that from Barr, he's been Zimmy's little pet all along.
As I understand it Zimmer knew his fate already Saturday before the game, kinda explains alot about his behavior.
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Mr Z was a big fan of #22 too.
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Mr Z was a big fan of #22 too.
hey but he was on the field most of the time. Well except when he got the Rona, that zimmy was less than impressed with.
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Yeah, Smith had to be playing hurt a lot the way he plays & still hardly missed a game. Barr on the other hand has missed a bunch the last 2-3 years.
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And Pierce, he only played 8 games in 2 years I believe.
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Yeah, I think that Zim was content to roll with "his guys" on defense that he drafted in the beginning, and a few he developed along the way in his tenure with the Vikings. As the run for that group was ending (a defense-first Head Coach with one of the worst defenses two years in a row), it looks like Zim was perfectly willing to check out.
I read elsewhere else that somewhere along the line, Zim lost his defensive backs coach, and after that point - Zim by himself - failed to develop any new rookie talent at the position. After Rhodes, Waynes, and Hughes were gone, the cupboard was bare. This sort of explains his strategy of spending money at corner back to find veterans who still had gas in the tank.
How'd that work out? :confused:
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The gas tank was empty. :tut: :tut: :tut:
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so who is the lady the Vikes want to talk for a new GM????
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so who is the lady the Vikes want to talk for a new GM????
she's currently with the eagles and what the news said she is also currently the highest female executive in the NFL.
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so what's her name?? nice enough looking!!!
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:scratch: This says they have requested interviews with her & 7 others. :confused: https://news.yahoo.com/vikings-gm-candidates-eagles-exec-180308268.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
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The Zigmeister could save himself a few bucks by naming Cousins interm coach & OC.
Burnsie wouldn't work for me these days Glenn, he's a bit to quiet since passing away.
However Kiffin wouldn't bother me. I would rather have him then Peterson anyway.
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:rotflmao: I was kidding about burnside!! :happy1:
I heard not so good things about kiffin but don't really know much about him. I have no clue who could be a HC.
I also heard someone asking for permission to talk to our OC. See Yea!!
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Lane Kiffins dad Monty was a defensive guru and I believe was on Bud Grants staff.
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so who is the lady the Vikes want to talk for a new GM????
she's currently with the eagles and what the news said she is also currently the highest female executive in the NFL.
From the Eagles website...
Catherine Raîche VICE PRESIDENT OF FOOTBALL OPERATIONS (https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/front-office/catherine-raiche)
Catherine Raîche enters her third season with the Philadelphia Eagles. During the 2021 offseason, she was promoted to vice president of football operations after originally joining the team as a football operations/player personnel coordinator in 2019. In her role, Raîche is involved in all areas of football operations and player personnel, including pro and college scouting, contract management, player/staff development, and football research.
Before that she was Coordinator of Football Administration, Assistant General Manager, and Director of Football Administration in the Canadian Football League. She practiced law in Canada before making her transition to professional sports in 2015.
(https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_6_desktop/f_auto/eagles/mqtay0oibcvgccnezczy.jpg)
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What is this recent fascination the Vikings have with the Eagles? :confused:
In 2016 the Vikes needed a quarterback.* (Big news :Photography: there. :coffee:) So they traded their 1st round pick in 2017 to the Eagles for Sam Bradford. Bradford had a really good season in 2016, but reinjured a worn-out knee in the first game in 2017. He was done for the Vikings. :cry:
Then the Vikes had to have Eagles John DeFilippo as their Offensive Coordinator. DeFilippo was the Eagles' quarterbacks coach for just two years. Was he hired because Spielman and Zim were so impressed by the way the Eagles kicked their :moon::moon::moon: in 2017? :scratch: Hard to say 'cause Zim had him fired 14 games in to the 2018 season. :doah:
The rumor mill is flying and one candidate for head coach is 2017 Superbowl Champion, Eagles' ex-head coach, Doug Pederson. Since the Vikes found out that DeFilippo wasn't the straw that stirred the Eagles drink in 2017... Maybe it was Doug? :shocked:
And now Eagles' Vice President of football operators, Catherine Raîche, pops up for the Minnesota General Manager job. :azn:
Somehow it doesn't strike me that - despite their Superbowl win - the Eagles are such a successful organization that they have superior talent to spare for other teams to steal.
Still, it seems similar in some ways to the Vikings, who also have a track record of losing talented coaches instead of promoting them: Dungy, Tomlin, and now Stefanski. :bonk:
* In all fairness, the Vikes needed a QB in 2016 because of the Bridgewater knee injury. Just think... If Bridgewater didn't blow out his knee and instead blossomed into the dynamic QB and leader it looked like he was becoming, or if Bradford could have kept it going for another year or two, they never would have had to mortgage the farm to get Kirk Cousins and the Spielman/Zimmer era could have been dramatically different.
:pouty:
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I really liked Bradford and so did the players.
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* In all fairness, the Vikes needed a QB in 2016 because of the Bridgewater knee injury. Just think... If Bridgewater didn't blow out his knee and instead blossomed into the dynamic QB and leader it looked like he was becoming, or if Bradford could have kept it going for another year or two, they never would have had to mortgage the farm to get Kirk Cousins and the Spielman/Zimmer era could have been dramatically different.
Glenn has a higher opinion of Cousins than I do of Bridgewater. I felt sorry for him when he got hurt but he never was going to be a franchise quarterback. Middle of the pack at best or a backup for a really good team.
Keenum probably has been the best guy to come through here lately but he was tagged as a backup when he first got in the league. He has done well with Cleveland when he has gotten a chance.
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Kennum i heard will be a free agent soon!!!!!!! :smoking: :happy1: i loved his gun slingin style when he played here.
there are ALOT of former vikings players doing well with other teams........... :pouty:
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I agree completely. Keenum could have gotten us at least 8-8 seasons and think of all of the quality players we could have afforded by keeping him. That may have led to much better winning percentages. BUT Zimmer didn't like him neither.
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I agree completely. Keenum could have gotten us at least 8-8 seasons and think of all of the quality players we could have afforded by keeping him. That may have led to much better winning percentages. BUT Zimmer didn't like him neither.
yep.......just like Carlson the kicker......he's been having a great career out there with the Raiders ...whereever there located at now!!!!! :crazy:
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there's alot of skuttle butt of teams looking for coaches.........and i aint heard Zimmers name mentioned yet!!!!!! :evil: :sleazy: :rotflmao:
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just read rumors going around viking land the names like Doug Peterson, Josh McDaniels, and Jim Harbaugh!!!!!
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I am all in on Doug Pederson. Need a GM that will gel with him. He took his team to the Super Bowl and beat Tom Brady. With an average QB and a just good team! That is good coaching.
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just read rumors going around viking land the names like Doug Peterson, Josh McDaniels, and Jim Harbaugh!!!!!
You think Denny Green had a ego.....just wait until Harbaugh gets here. Of the 3 he would be my last choice.
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just read rumors going around viking land the names like Doug Peterson, Josh McDaniels, and Jim Harbaugh!!!!!
You think Denny Green has a ego.....just wait until Harbaugh gets here. Of the 3 he would be my last choice.
I agree. :happy1:
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No Jim Harbaugh :tut: :thumbs: :thumbs: :pouty: :pouty: :crazy: :crazy:
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If they hired Harbaugh I would seriously rethink who my favorite team is.
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Harbaughs name has been thrown out there for a while going to the NFL. didnt he do that once already and failed miserably???? :scratch: :scratch:
coaching college kids vs pro athletes are 2 completely different animals!!!!!!!!
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Harbough made his bones in the NFL coaching the 49'ers to the Super Bowl with Kaepernick as his quarterback. Neither has had that kind of success since.
Last year he had to give back $4 million in salary to Michigan because his program sucked so bad and he couldn't compete with Ohio State. The speculation now is he is leveraging this years success against the possibility of a NFL job to get that Michigan money back.
I'd be surprised if he returns to the NFL. He would be compared to his brother John who has done a great job with Baltimore.
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:scratch: I got to believe the new GM, whoever it is, will have a major say in who's even looked at for HC.
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so i see the vikings interviewed the gal from the eagles yesterday. not sure why yet but i think that be pretty cool!!!! some of the so called :scratch: experts seem to think she would be a good fit.............no not internet experts like boar either!!!!!!1 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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so i see the vikings interviewed the gal from the eagles yesterday. not sure why yet but i think that be pretty cool!!!! some of the so called :scratch: experts seem to think she would be a good fit.............no not internet experts like boar either!!!!!!1 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Just another 1st theme pick. How does coaching women's basketball make you a NFL football coach? :coffee:
"King also has experience coaching women's basketball. She was the head coach of Johnson & Wales University Charlotte from 2016-18"
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Her background has alot of football in it and she seems to have moved up the ladder pretty fast. Football gurus seem to like what she brings to the table :scratch:
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And glenn how did yu come by the information???? THE INTERNET!!
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I believe the Wilfs genuinely want to build the reputation of their organization.
Sure, they want to win, but they want the Vikings to be a place where good players want to play and good coaches want to coach.
One of they ways you do that is to demonstrate loyalty, and the Wilfs definitely did that with Spielman and Zim. They are building the reputation to NOT have knee jerk reactions to bad seasons.
And I think they want to be viewed by NFL executive management as one of the progressive organizations who is on the right side of all the trending social issues. If Catherine Raîche is fully qualified, and hiring her helps them get there... why not? :confused:
It ain't like Bill Polian and Tony Dungy are coming out of retirement to lead the Vikings. :rotflmao:
P.S. Da Bears have hired Bill Polian as a consultant to help THEM find a new GM and Head Coach. That would have been a good move for the Wilfs, but Da Bears beat them to it. :blues brothers:
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Todd Bowles (defensive guy) is in town today to interview for head coach. Kellen Moore (offensive coach) in sometime this week.
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And glenn how did yu come by the information???? THE INTERNET!!
oh i have many mutiple sources!!!!!!!! :mooning: :happy1:
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I think the Wilfs want to talk to all the best Head Coach candidates as soon as possible, so they don't lose out before hiring the GM.
The next GM will have a big say, but I think the Wilfs want to impress upon these guys what a quality organization they are.
We'll see.
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It is a first class operation with the new stadium and that practice complex in Eden Prairie.
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The Vikes to have a lot going for them, 'cept for that little thing that they never won a Superbowl. :embarrassed:
You're remembering Winter Park. The new TCO Performance Center / Practice Facility / Hotel is in Eagan.
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Nope, I knew it wasn't winter park. I just get Eagan and Eden Prairie mixed up.
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:scratch: https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/jared-allen-head-coach-nfl-rumors/ :rolleyes:
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Ya blame him, after all he watched Biden get elected. Now before ripping me who is more qualified for the job? Sleepy Joe as President or Allen as a football coach?
Seriously this is about as much of a non-story as you can get. ;)
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:scratch: https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/jared-allen-head-coach-nfl-rumors/ :rolleyes:
For a minute I thought this could have been serious, but it looks like Allen's pretty twitter post was tongue and cheek.
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:scratch: https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/jared-allen-head-coach-nfl-rumors/ :rolleyes:
For a minute I thought this could have been serious, but it looks like Allen's pretty twitter post was tongue and cheek.
Right when I first read it I'm like What? The only thing he knows about foot ball is the coach tell him to go rip the QB's head off! :doah: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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sounds like the purple have there GM candidates down to 2. kinda bummed though woulda liked t ohave seen the gal from the eagles come here. dont know why though :scratch: :scratch: based on the articlei readhad the vikings picked an eagles person it would of cost them a draft pick!!!!!! :scratch:
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The gal from Philly wouldn't have been black enough for the NFL.
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I was hoping Ossenfort that is from Luverne would have a chance at GM. I know his parents.
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Report: Ryan Poles is Vikings' 'top choice' for general manager
just seen this....
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Read where a guy from Cleveland's front office is still in the running too. Mn wants a 2nd interview with both is what I seen. :scratch:
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I like the idea of Poles as the new GM, But I got a feeling if he gets the job, he will try and bring in Eric Bieniemy as HC.
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I'm not keen on Bieniemy neither.
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I'd be OK with Bowles. He did ok as a head coach before.
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Just googled Poles from KC who is a GM candidate. It said that he is good at finding talent. Chicago wants him too so I hope we get him first. Someone else said that too. Said he realizes how you have to have harmony in the locker room. That is a big plus. I think we could use some of that.
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Get 2 stud D-Linemen, a stud middle linebacker and 2 pieces in the secondary and the harmony in the locker room will be fine.
Winning fixes most of your locker room issues.
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Finding talent and guessing right are probably the best attributes of a good GM. Trouble is... Past performance is no indicator of future success. Each draft is different. Still, if they can manage the roster and salary cap such that the talent is improving and peaking all at the same time, it puts them in a position to win.
I REALLY want to see an offensive-minded head coach. After watching the games yesterday, those teams made the 2021 Vikings look like a junior varsity squad. Why can't we have a dynamic, high-powered offense too? :confused:
Still, our old, defensive-minded head coach left the Vikings defense in a shambles - at the bottom of the league in the past two seasons. :embarrassed:
There is a school of thought that says get another defensive head coach to build it back up and hire the right offensive coordinate - and STOP micro-managing the OC. But I really don't like that, because say they do get the right guy at offensive coordinator, he'll be gone in 3 years for the next head-coaching opportunity.
This league is built for offense. Hire a head coach to knows how to coach offense.
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The Vikes playing any one of those teams would have been an embarrassment. I sure hope we get things under control again.
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Truth be told, as long as the Packers keep falling on their face I don't care what the Vikings do.
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https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/reports-ryan-poles-hired-as-bears-gm-vikings-may-move-quick-to-get-kwesi-adofo-mensah
just seen this
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That is always the cliche... The Bears didn't let him leave the building without signing a contract.
I guess the Wilfs have some work to do before the Vikings are the best organization in the NFL.
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Darn. I hoped we would get him.
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I don't know any of these General Manager guys' qualifications and have no rationale to speculate.
Ryan Poles - Chiefs' ASSISTANT Director of Player Personnel might look like a bloody genius because the Mahomes dropped to #10 in the 2017 Draft and the Chiefs' CHIEF Director of Player Personnel had the foresight to take him.
The real test of being a successful general manager for the Chiefs will be if they can sustain greatness now that they have signed Mahomes to a record money deal and all of the other good players get into free agency and want to be paid.
It is a little easier for an armchair quarterback like me to speculate on head coaching candidates...
One of the big knocks on Chief's Eric Bieniemy for head coaching jobs is, as Offensive Coordinator, is he ready for the next step, or are is the Chiefs offense successful because Andy Reed still calls all the offensive plays. :confused:
... But then most of "my" takes are just repeating crap I hear and see elsewhere. :pouty:
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I saw Bienemy carrying a call sheet around on Sunday. I think the Chiefs are doing their part to get him a job. I would take him if he brings Mahomes & Kelsi with.
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I saw Bienemy carrying a call sheet around on Sunday. I think the Chiefs are doing their part to get him a job. I would take him if he brings Mahomes & Kelsi with.
Yeah, Mahomes is one of the best QBs in the league, and there are other good young ones too. And like I said, I think the Chiefs are going to have a hard time paying other player's with Mahomes' cap numbers...
2022 $31.45 million
2023 $42.45 million
2024 $39.95 million
2025 $41.95 million
2026 $41.95 million
2027 $59.95 million
2028 $44.45 million
2029 $44.95 million
2030 $50.45 million
2031 $52.45 million
By contrast, here are the Cousins cap hit numbers. Note that Cousins has the biggest cap hit in the final year of the contract because Spielman kept kicking the bill for his salary down the road because they were in "win now" mode - or more precisely - "win now or get fired" mode.
2018 $24 million (13.5% of the total cap)
2019 $29 million (15.4% of the total cap)
2020 $21 million (10.6% of the total cap)
2021 $31 million (16.6% of the total cap)
2022 $45 million (21.2% of the total cap)
The absolute WORST salary cap hit for the Cousins contract equals the AVERAGE salary cap hit per year for the Mahomes deal. The main difference with the Mahomes deal is (I think) that it is not 100% fully guaranteed. (That and Mahomes is a winner who makes players around him better. :doah:)
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Mahomes is also only 25 years old. They can re-do his contract to get more cap room when they need it. If he wins another Super Bowl they will be fine whichever way the cap works out. BTW, Erins cap hit is over $40 million. Who ya want?
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Tough to guess who will be the next coach.
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read an article this morning that Thelen and Jefferson are campaigning the powers to be to keep there wide recievers coach!!!! sounds like they really like him and there 2 top backups really improved since he took over coaching recievers!!!!
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Sounds like it is a done deal. Mensah is the new GM
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Read that he's a very smart money man with degrees from Princeton & Stanford.
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He was with San Fran for 7 or 8 years too so that makes me feel better too. Then he went to the Browns who improved with him.
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Read that he's a very smart money man with degrees from Princeton & Stanford.
God bless him.
I hope he can also...
Hire the right coaches,
Evaluate talent and make smart draft decisions,
Make smart trades with other GMs,
And bring in free agents who add talent and enhance team chemistry rather than mercenaries who only want to get paid and "build their brand."
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Pretty sure he was involved in all of that during his last 3 years with 49'ers who brought him into the league in 2013. https://www.twincities.com/2022/01/26/vikings-hire-browns-executive-kwesi-adofo-mensah-as-general-manager/
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Just looked at an article, which all veteran Vikings fans are used to looking forward to in January... :bonk:
Lunchbreak: CBS Sports Proposes 'Perfect Vikings Draft Plan' (https://www.vikings.com/news/2022-nfl-draft-plan-cbs-sports)
Inside there is a section that according to cybermetrics used by Pro Football Focus, the Vikings had the worst production out of their 2021 draft class out of every team in the NFL!!! :doah:
The bottom line - if I read it right - was although Darrisaw got off to a slow start, he did pretty good; their one bright spot. They had no 2nd round pick and took QB Kellen Mond in the 3rd round and basically got nothing from him. And apparently none of the other picks made significant impact compared to their 2021-drafted peers either.
So if Spielman was drafting in 2021 to save his job and "win now" (in 2021), he certainly crapped the bed.
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Because Mensah was already a minority member of another team's front office his signing will cost the Vikings a 3rd draft pick for 2 years in a row under a new rule just passed in 2020.
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Because Mensah was already a minority member of another team's front office his signing will cost the Vikings a 3rd draft pick for 2 years in a row under a new rule just passed in 2020.
Browns Receive Draft Compensation as Vikings Hire Kwesi Adofo-Mensah (https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/browns-receive-draft-compensation-as-vikings-hire-kwesi-adofo-mensah)
Browns will receive NFL Draft picks in both the 2022 and 2023 draft. These picks will be each in the third-round. The NFL implemented a rule that rewards teams for developing front office members and coaches. For example the Baltimore Ravens received draft compensation when the Houston Texans hired David Culley as a head coach.
This hire benefits the Browns. Cleveland will receive assets in return of having to replace an executive. You really can’t complain when you receive valuable draft picks for a front office remember who will be replaced. Adofo-Mensaah is a solid hire for the Vikings and the Browns have to be happy with how it played out.
I think the Browns get EXTRA 3rd round picks as a reward/incentive to continue to develop minority personnel within their organization. I think those picks come from the NFL, not the Vikings.
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Pretty sure he was involved in all of that during his last 3 years with 49'ers who brought him into the league in 2013. https://www.twincities.com/2022/01/26/vikings-hire-browns-executive-kwesi-adofo-mensah-as-general-manager/
Because the Brown's have such a winning organization? :scratch: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: I read this differently. :confused: https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211US1289G0&p=Brown%27s+compensation+for+Mensah+signing:
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:scratch: I read this differently. :confused: https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211US1289G0&p=Brown%27s+compensation+for+Mensah+signing:
Yeah, I read your article the same way you did, but I don't think it is correct. Not because I think I know so much or want to be right, but I want to find out if the Vikes are really going to lose two draft pics or not.
I found this source that indicates "compensatory" picks will be added to the end of the 3rd round, which implies the NFL is adding them, rather than taking them from a team. What would happen if the Vikings didn't have a 3rd round pick in the next two years?
NFL compensatory picks for minority coaches and executives explained (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/14/nfl-compensatory-picks-for-minority-coaches-and-executives-explained/)
(i) The employer-club of a minority employee who has been hired by another club as its Head Coach or Primary Football Executive (General Manager) shall receive Draft choice compensation in the form of a compensatory Draft pick in the third round in each of the next two Drafts for an employee hired as either a Head Coach or Primary Football Executive, or for the next three Drafts if it has two employees hired for both positions. The reference to the hiring of employees into “both positions” could be by the same club or different clubs. The following will apply to the Draft choice compensation:
a. Any compensatory Draft picks awarded pursuant to this Policy will be at the end of the third round following all compensatory Draft picks awarded to clubs pursuant to Appendix V of the NFL-NFLPA Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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:scratch: I don' think I've ever heard of these compensatory picks before but I was of the opinion that if they did have to give up 2 of their 3rd round picks that some teams might consider that a bit steep & reconsider going after the minority employee they were looking at. That could derail the whole minority hiring program for those positions the league wants. :crazy:
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I think their logic goes the other way - whether we agree or not.
They say if you hire a minority into your executive office, and he gets promoted out of there by another team, the league will reward the team that lost him team with two extra draft pics - with are a valuable commodity to a team.
If they hire a white guy who gets hired by another team, the team who loses the guy gets nothing.
That is the NFLs way of providing incentives to hire more minorities. They figure if they feed the system at lower levels with more minority hires, eventually more minorities will be promoted into the top positions.
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Makes no sense to me neither and may even be more racist by even doing it. Sounds like a penalty for hiring a minority person to me. Even if the NFL gave the team that lost the minority person the draft picks, I don't see how that makes any sense either.
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No, I agree Steve-O, the league giving extra picks is an incentive to hire more minorities but penalizing the team that hires them to more managment type positions with the loss of 2 3rd rounders didn't make a lot of sense to me. :doofus:
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Rick Spielman Takes Another Veiled Shot At Mike Zimmer (https://zonecoverage.com/2022/minnesota-vikings-news/rick-spielman-takes-another-veiled-shot-at-mike-zimmer/)
Here's the shot... :fudd:
“I think the No. 1 thing you’re looking for is that head coach has to have a relationship with that quarterback, and can a defensive head coach connect with that quarterback?”
With the #1 defense in 2017 and Case Keenum running the offense, Spielman thought they were one Quarterback away from making a Superbowl run and went "all in" on Cousins. Zimmer was never on board with the move. Think about it... Zimmer and Cousins only just started watching film together last season. :scratch:
Rumor has it Spielman started the process of looking for a new head coach part way thru last season (obviously in hopes of saving his job if he could find the right coach and convince the Wilfs to keep him). So it seems plausible that Deion Sanders' claim that Spielman and Zim didn't speak to each other for the last 6 months makes some sense. :lipsrsealed:
This Zimmer/Cousins thing is really starting to remind me of Childress/Favre in 2009. Favre, the gunslinger, who had the experience and talent to keep defenses off balance by calling audibles at the line and Chili, whose ego would not allow himself to surrender any control. Were it not for that strained relationship, the Vikings might have had a Superbowl that year. :doah:
The Patriots are successful - in part - because they make moves one year too early rather than one year too late. :happy1:
Starting to hear all these rumors really makes me wish Spielman and the Wilfs would have fired Zimmer earlier and promoted Stefanski to head coach instead of letting him get away to the Browns. :pouty:
The Patriots were somehow able to keep coveted Offensive Coordinator Josh McDaniels in the fold. Too bad the Vikes aren't as forward thinking as the Patriots organization. :tut:
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:scratch: I believe 1 of McDaniels incentives to stay is that he's getting paid almost entry-level HC's pay, rumored to be $4 mil/year. Pretty sure he has a lot of the GM duties now as well. Not many teams approach it like the Pats & that's a huge reason for their success IMO. I think the Krafts deserve a lot of credit for having a good working relationship with their guys too.
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That Zimmer didn't like Keenum even when the chemistry was so good with him and the team and let him go was a huge downfall for the team. Getting rid of Zimmer and elevating Stefanski would have been a great fit for everyone. Sure Keenum hasn't done great since leaving here but that chemistry they all had was a huge thing.
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:scratch: I read this differently. :confused: https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211US1289G0&p=Brown%27s+compensation+for+Mensah+signing:
So more or less it's just another Affirmative action, Equality pick! :doah:
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:scratch: I read this differently. :confused: https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211US1289G0&p=Brown%27s+compensation+for+Mensah+signing:
So more or less it's just another Affirmative action, Equality pick! :doah:
yep. as i see it....no longer has anything to do with job qualifications!!!!!!!! :scratch: not saying he wont do a good job.........thats yet to be determined!!!!
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:scratch: He was with the 49ers for 7 seasons starting out just doing research for the player personnel dept before being named the lead man the last 3 before he went to the Browns. So he looks to have a plenty of experience to me. :confused:
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That Zimmer didn't like Keenum even when the chemistry was so good with him and the team and let him go was a huge downfall for the team. Getting rid of Zimmer and elevating Stefanski would have been a great fit for everyone. Sure Keenum hasn't done great since leaving here but that chemistry they all had was a huge thing.
That is where the ego of the coach and GM can really be the downfall of a team. That, and they are afraid to trust their players. If they were to take a flier on Keenum - or a rehabbed Teddy Bridgewater - that would have been viewed as a risky decision. The "smarter" play was to acquire Sam Bradford and later, Kirk Cousins.
Spielman should have know better than to trust Bradford's beat up body to last.
Zimmer should have been open to coaching a style of offense that fits the roster rather than forcing the players fit "his" obsolete scheme.
Egos! :doah:
Guys like Spielman and Zim stroke their egos by trying to prove their way is the best way.
And then you have Belichick who strokes his ego by kicking everyone else's :moon: !!!
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So which year did they extend Zimms contract? Must have been some turmoil going on to see it.. so why??
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So which year did they extend Zimms contract? Must have been some turmoil going on to see it.. so why??
Per Wikipedia... "In late July 2020, Zimmer signed a three-year contract extension, keeping him as the head coach through 2023."
Oh by the way, also per Wikipedia... "On January 13, 2020, Stefanski signed a five-year contract to become the 18th head coach of the Cleveland Browns, two days after the Minnesota Vikings lost in the NFC playoffs." :doah:
You can't fire a coach that just took you to the playoffs, right? :scratch:
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Sad the way that panned out.
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:scratch: https://www.aol.com/vikings-reportedly-interviewed-another-head-174932868.html Mostly DCs in the list at the end of the pc, only 3 OCs & 1 has already been hired in Denver. :huh:
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Yea thats what we need anot h er defensive minded head coach
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Jim Harbaugh
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i seen they may be interviewing a guy from the giants because of his close friendship with the new GM???????
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Jim Harbaugh
Surely you jest. LOL
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Jim Harbaugh
actually he's not, unfortunately.
Surely you jest. LOL
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Saw that one a little bit ago. Maybe he'll bring Kaeperdink back... :bonk:
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Harbaugh interviewed tonight. Maybe they won't let him leave town like the Bears did with Pole when he was supposed tom come here the next day. :confused: :confused:
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Wouldn't that be terrible. Half of the Vikings fans would find other teams to follow.
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Wouldn't that be terrible. Half of the Vikings fans would find other teams to follow.
i guess this new GM liked him back in there 49ers days!!!!!!!! :scratch: :scratch:
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Oh Oh.
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Wouldn't that be terrible. Half of the Vikings fans would find other teams to follow.
i guess this new GM liked him back in there 49ers days!!!!!!!! :scratch: :scratch:
Yeah, they were together for all of Harbaugh's 4 years in SF. Same coaching style as Zimmer IMO. :rolleyes:
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Just read on KFAN. Down to 3 finalists. Rams OC, Rams DC, Harbaugh. I would take either of the Rams guys.
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Wouldn't that be terrible. Half of the Vikings fans would find other teams to follow.
i guess this new GM liked him back in there 49ers days!!!!!!!! :scratch: :scratch:
Yeah, they were together for all of Harbaugh's 4 years in SF. Same coaching style as Zimmer IMO. :rolleyes:
If there was anyone who would know the pros and cons of Harbaugh's coaching, it would be our new guy, Adofo-Mensah.
Just as long as he has a plan to fire him one year too early instead of one year too late when Harbaugh's act starts to grow old in the locker room.
I also read this morning that the Wilf's were accepting Adofo-Mensah's "input" in the Head Coach in hiring the coach - whatever that means.
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This just in... The Raiders land Josh McDaniels as their head coach.
How come McDaniels didn't interview with the Vikings? :scratch:
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Interesting. I thought about him for us but heard he doesn't have the best personality. ???? I thought he would stay with the Patriots and take Bellicheck's place sometime. Life may not be as fun without Tom there.
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He didn’t do to well as the Broncos head coach.
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He didn’t do to well as the Broncos head coach.
No, but when the news broke, all the TV Talking Heads were making apologies for McDaniels, saying that after Denver he went back to the grindstone, paid his dues becoming a great OC again under Belichick, and is now ready for another chance.
Even given his history with Denver, I'd rather see him with the Vikings instead of all of the other finalist candidates they currently have.
McDaniels' agent must have been working with the Raiders for a long time since Gruden resigned. It didn't make sense that McDaniels' name wasn't coming up for any of the other head coaching vacancies either, and then all of a sudden he lands with the Raiders.
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Kirk Cousins replaces Erin Rogers in the Pro Bowl.
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Kirk Cousins replaces Erin Rogers in the Pro Bowl.
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Kirk Cousins replaces Erin Rogers in the Pro Bowl.
thought this was a joke until I just seen it on a news page... say what!!!
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That stuff happens all the time.
The great ones have been there and done that. After a long season that ends in a tough loss, the last thing those guys want to do is to show up for a dog and pony show. And particularly in the case of Erin, face all the media questions about leaving GB.
Rodgers will say he is too hurt to play and the NFL will start going down the list of QBs with the next best stats until they find someone who is willing to show up for the game. It happens every year.
And its good for the other guys, because they usually have bonuses tied to being named to the Pro Bowl.
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This just in... The Raiders land Josh McDaniels as their head coach.
How come McDaniels didn't interview with the Vikings? :scratch:
I'm sure it was a package deal with the GM and McDaniels. To get one you needed to take them both. Good deal for the Raiders. He will do very well there. He has paid his dues and if the GM is any good they will compete. Tough division with Herbert & Mahomes already there and Erin coming.
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This just in... The Raiders land Josh McDaniels as their head coach.
How come McDaniels didn't interview with the Vikings? :scratch:
I'm sure it was a package deal with the GM and McDaniels. To get one you needed to take them both. Good deal for the Raiders. He will do very well there. He has paid his dues and if the GM is any good they will compete. Tough division with Herbert & Mahomes already there and Erin coming.
I missed that part where the Patriots' Ziegler also went to the Raiders as GM.
Still, why couldn't that package have worked for the Vikes? They could have had Zygi and Ziegler! :rotflmao:
That is what makes me think the Raiders deal was in the works for a long time. Neither Ziegler or McDaniels were candidates for any of the other open NFL jobs. It was as if they were off the table before the market opened. I wonder if Zygi W. is plugged in enough to play in those back-channel waters. :scratch:
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Harbaugh flying in to interview on Wednesday.
Ryans turns down second interview.
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Harbaugh is the final second interviewer.....I bet the Wilf's won't let him leave w/o signing.
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Is the Rams' OC still in the mix?
Consider the source, but I heard an Odell Beckem Jr. interview where he was very complementary of the Rams. He might have been trying to throw some shade at the Browns, but OBJ did say, "The Rams do everything right."
If that is true, and the Rams' OC is an integral part of that winning culture, it would be good to infuse some of that with the Vikings.
I still don't know about Harbaugh. He had some success in San Fan, but, as I recall, his act wore thin with pro players in a hurry - and the consensus was Harbaugh was better suited for the college game. The Vikes just got rid of a coach like that.
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Harbaugh scares me. Seems like he has a huge ego just like Zim. I think Kevin Oconnell, Rams OC is still in the mix. He is the one I am wanting.
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Yes......both RamsOC and DC are interviewing today.
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Rheem Morris is the DC I think. He was the HC at San Diego I think. Anyway, I would rather have Todd Bowles the TB DC than Harbough. Just not a Harbough fan.
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And I've had enough of this defensive-minded, defensive coordinator head coach stuff for a while.
Everything in the league is slanted toward offense. The offensive strategy evolves, and defenses are constantly catching up.
If you hire an offensive wizard as your head coach, you have him locked up.
If you hire a defensive wizard as your head coach, you need to hire and or develop a successful Offensive Coordinator, who will become someone else's next head coach.
Just sayin.
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:happy1: Just look at the 2 teams left playing their HCs both have OC backgrounds.
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Unless the head coach is calling his own plays it doesn't matter if he is defensive or offensive. He (or she) just needs to have the OC that follows the path he wants to go matching the qb's abilities.
But, I really don't care as I don't expect much difference in results for several years.
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just read little kubiak went to be QB coach and passing coordinator out in denver !!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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reports are Harbaugh is staying in michigan!!!!!!!!!!
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He finally beat Ohio St & is getting paid very well so ....................... :confused:
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Reports are saying there hiring Kevon O'Connell, the Rams offensive coordinator.
But cant make it official until after the superbowl
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With Harbaugh......wonder who turned down who??? He may have wanted too much money and too much control. So now we will have a GM who has never been a GM and a head coach who has never been a head coach. Could be a lot different, especially on the offense.
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I at least look forward to this combo much better than a jackass like Harbaugh being any part of it. He used the Vikes to get back at Mich.
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Exactly....bet he got a big raise there. O'Connel was Cousin's QB coach at Washington and worked for the 49's before going to the Rams. So those 3 all know each other. Plus he is the 4th OC under Rams head coach McVay. Both Cinn and GB head coaches were OC for McVay.
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Requiem for the Harbaugh Chapter
Jim Harbaugh comments after failed interview with Vikings (https://sports.yahoo.com/jim-harbaugh-comments-failed-interview-142232021.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAwPUDHpIX2s1njxuXPR_dK442dkBEXAz0gYEgEP2hN2wZnRMG5okFeBiiLBmEL293qJYG0q8mTeDNj10-K85xaUZtC-R3mHvMXwcRSSfbuo37gVdMcxJk-fhhOraWm49s8F8XEk7LRdHjMhIxVJaNpft816czdOIea84MUDzZol)
...a text message he received from Harbaugh after the interview.
“The Wilf family and organization are first class all the way and in every way and Kwesi [Adofo-Mensah] is a shining star! The team is poised for greatness,” said Harbaugh.
It still doesn’t make the brief Harbaugh tease any less confusing. ... Harbaugh approached Wednesday’s meeting as basically a done deal, while the Vikings were simply conducting another interview as they have with every other candidate.
Perhaps this last point speaks to the Harbaugh's arrogance. :confused:
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Yup. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Word now is that during interview Vikes didn't like his attitude. Acted like the job was in the bag. Just turned them the wrong way.
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Dodged a bullit id say
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Dodged a bullit id say
Do we have a sour grapes emoji? :confused:
Vikings target Jim Harbaugh explains why he's staying at Michigan, says he's chased the NFL for the last time (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/vikings-target-jim-harbaugh-explains-why-hes-staying-at-michigan-says-hes-chased-the-nfl-for-the-last-time/)
Harbaugh indicated Minnesota failed to match his enthusiasm
When Harbaugh called Michigan athletic director Warde Manuel to alert him he was returning, he told him that this NFL flirtation was a "one-time thing."
Harbaugh was able to go out and explore his options. Now, he sounds more committed to Michigan than he ever has been.
Yeah, right. We'll see how Michigan feels about Harbaugh when he underperforms expectations or loses to Ohio State two years running. :thumbs: :rotflmao:
P.S. Legendary WR Cris Carter thumbs up Vikings passing on Jim Harbaugh (https://sports.yahoo.com/legendary-wr-cris-carter-thumbs-143354590.html)
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I see where Zimmer felt he needed to tell the league he would like to coach this season. The pc said most of league thought he'd take a year off. :scratch: Wonder if he's open to going back to a DC position? :confused:
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Him & Chilly can open a sandwich shop together.
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Good one Dutch. LOL
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I see where Zimmer felt he needed to tell the league he would like to coach this season. The pc said most of league thought he'd take a year off. :scratch: Wonder if he's open to going back to a DC position? :confused:
Did Zim break up with his girlfriend or something? :confused:
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haven't heard anything on that... just heard he's looking for work.... but the jobs are getting scarce, they say..
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The Ram's OC was asked about the Vikings job out at the Pro Bowl & he wouldn't confirm or deny but he did tell the reporter that he did own a winter coat. A done deal IMO but nothing can be said until the SB is over.
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Schefter says Minnesota Vikings, Kirk Cousins will 'figure something out' (https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/schefter-says-minnesota-vikings-kirk-cousins-will-figure-something-out)
O'Connell worked with Cousins in 2017 when he was the quarterbacks coach for the Washington Commanders. That season, Cousins posted the worst passer rating (93.9) and QBR (56.0) of his career as Washington went 7-9 and missed the playoffs.
But this isn't just about the two apparently wanting to work together. Schefter suggested Cousins could restructure his deal to save money in the short term.
“So that tells me that Minnesota and Kirk Cousins will figure out something, and maybe come up with a restructured contract that adds years on for Kirk Cousins and gives the Vikings salary cap relief this offseason, to give them more money to spend on other players."
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Adam Schefter said on ESPN Sunday that the Vikings and Kirk Cousins will "figure something out."
In other words, Schefter is believes that new head coach Kevin O'Connell wants to work with Cousins, who carries a $45 million cap hit entering the final year of his contract with the Vikings in 2022.
“Kevin O’Connell worked with Kirk Cousins in Washington. Kirk Cousins endorsed Kevin O’Connell for that job. One of the reasons Kevin kind of wants that job is because of Kirk Cousins. There’s a relationship," Schefter said during Sunday's Pro Bowl coverage on ESPN
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Seen an article where Cook said he's excited to play for O'Connell too. Mainly because of all the good stuff Cousins has been telling him about their time together in Washington. :cool:
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Man is that good to hear. As a whole it didn't seem like they were having fun the last couple of years. Will be good to see smiles again.
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Cousins is the devil we know. He ain't the best, but he ain't the worst. Maybe without Zim oppressing him, O'Connell can coach him up and get the most out of him.
We know Kapt. Kirk ain't much of a leader, but he does have some passing skills. If the offense can get inspirational leadership from Cook and Jefferson, it could be a formula for success.
AND, maybe... just maybe... when they go to extend Cousins' contract, he might give the organization a team-friendly deal.
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Yup I think they will keep him at least for next year. I would be pissed if he didn't offer a deal to the team. And man do we need to get a young guy coming up the ladder too. Maybe 2 of them.
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Why would he give the team a deal? This guy is no dummy regardless of what Glenn thinks of him. When with Washington he got them to franchise tag him 2 years in a row. Then he leveraged that into what was the first guaranteed contract in the NFL. I don't see much wrong with his game except he isn't accurate on deep throws. Because of that I think Zimmer went away from the long ball to much. You have Theilan & Jefferson to stretch the field, let them go and do it. It will only open the lanes for Cook more.
Vikings have some problems but Cousins isn't one of them.
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Why would [cousins] give the team a deal? This guy is no dummy regardless of what Glenn thinks of him.
Why did Brady give the Patriots team-friendly deals? :confused:
Because Brady had plenty of money and wanted to win. :happy1:
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Brady had some things in place that Cousins doesn't have. Defense, coaches to name a couple. Plus Brady wanted to win above all other things. BTW, how much money does a guy need to make to get by? These guys make more in a year then I will make in a lifetime.
If I'm Cousins, no discount. Pay me or trade me.
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well if cousins would get paid on need to win games...he'd owe the vikings money!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :rotflmao:
i'll go out on a limb here and somewhat kinda admit he may not be a half bad QB, especially with some of the reports coming out lately with whats been going on with the organization the last few years. one that sticks out in my mind is him being afraid of changing the plays at the line of scrimmage.
that and all the OC's over the years!!!!!!
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They are about $12 Million over the salary cap. They have a bunch of older players who are due for free agency. Have to decide who they want to keep. Who can have salary adjusted. What they need to draft. Plus hire assistant coaches. Especially OC and DC. New GM will be busy. Hopefully O'Connel won't change his mind on Monday.
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I believe he'll restructure his remaining deal, deferring a nice chunk, so there's enough of a reduction in the cap hit so the front office will have some more freedom to do what they think they need to do. If he does that, I wouldn't be too surprised to see the team then add another year, maybe even 2 to his contract. :scratch:
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If freed up cap space allows them to improve the defense to keep opponents’ scores down, and the offensive line can be improved, it’s good for everybody, especially Cousins.
I know, I’m Captain Obvious.
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Some added quality depth on the DL & OL both would be a big plus IMO.
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:scratch: :scratch: so i keep reading about the vikings interviewing assistant coaches.........they havent and cant officially announced the new head coach until after the super bowl....... :scratch:
so why?????? i always thought the head coach picks his sidekicks???????????
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Because if they wait, some of the ones they like might already have a new gig. I don't think they'll offer anyone a job without consulting with O'Connell. They may already have a list that they put together with the new guy on people they both like. :scratch: Not sure how the NFL rules read on that though. :confused:
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"Mark Wilf convened with players on coach hiring decision."
“Mark just wanted to get our thoughts on [the situation]. Put it all into the basket right now. Like, what are some of things [we thought] could make us a better football team. Some of the guys got some of their messages out of what they thought was going to be good for the football team. What type of coaching style that they need to help us turn a corner. What type of coach that they feel we needed to help us turn a corner. It looks like they took all of those replies in and put it into their thought process when it came to hiring their new head coach.”
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"Mark Wilf convened with players on coach hiring decision."
It can be a fine line between "Giving the players a voice" and "Letting the inmates run the asylum," but given that Zim's my-way-or-the-highway approach went as far as it was going to go, it was probably prudent of Mark Wilf to listen to the players' grievances and pick their brains about the immediate future.
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Mark seems to be the businessman, Ziggy wants to be the guy who owns a NFL team. Thats the way it looks to me.
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:happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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SO I heard the other day that Oconnell could still stay with the Rams if he decided to. Any updates on that?
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We will know this week. If there isn't a announcement then you can worry. No reason a OC wouldn't become a head coach if offered.
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SO I heard the other day that Oconnell could still stay with the Rams if he decided to. Any updates on that?
Just the rumor/speculation from a couple of days ago...
Vikings new head coach plans could be thwarted by Sean McVay (https://thevikingage.com/2022/02/12/vikings-new-head-coach-sean-mcvay/)
Sadly, a recent report might put the hiring of Kevin O’Connell in a bit of danger. The report comes from New York Post and shares an interesting detail about the current Rams head coach, Sean McVay.
The report states that there is a chance McVay may have an interest in shifting his career away from coaching to focus on other things in his life. If that’s true, his future could be in analysis or commentary, opening up the position of head coach for the Rams.
Kevin O’Connell’s deal in Minnesota isn’t done. There is still a chance that if an opening arises to become the next head coach of the Rams that it could be a job that O’Connell may want to take over leading the Vikings for the foreseeable future.
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:scratch: Al Michaels made it sound like a done deal yday just as the game was getting started. Not sure of his exact verbiage but it was to the effect that all that remained was for it to be announced today or tomorrow. :confused:
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I don't think they could sign on the dotted line until the Super Bowl was over. Hope he doesn't change his mind.
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:scratch: Verbal agreement? Don't believe anything would've been said if he thought there was much of a chance of it not happening. We shall see.
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Maybe they gave him a day or two to celebrate with the Rams. I hoped to hear something today.
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I'm kinda confused on his role in LA. Was he the offensive coordinator? Looked to me Mcvay did all the play calling while O'Connell was just standing there.. Hopefully the plays were coming from him.
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Yep, that is the risk of hiring the OC when the HC is the play caller. One of the same things against ex-Vikings RB coach Eric Bieniemy, who is the Chiefs' OC. Everyone knows Andy Reed is the offensive genius.
The hope is some of it will rub off on the next guy.
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Maybe they gave him a day or two to celebrate with the Rams. I hoped to hear something today.
WCCO said early today that their SB parade isn't until tomorrow & hinted that the announcement may not come before that. :scratch: They did say that Wes Phillips, Wades son, is expected to come with him as his OC though. His grandpa, Bum Phillips, was a HC for the Houston Oilers & NO Saints back in 70's & 80's too.
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That sounds positive to me.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: i just read a blurb on MSN that Deshawn Watson is interested in playing for the Vikings!!!!!! :shocked: thanks but no thanks i'll stick with Cousins!!!!!!!!
from what it said Watson has like 22 civil cases against him yet!!!!!!
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: i just read a blurb on MSN that Deshawn Watson is interested in playing for the Vikings!!!!!! :shocked: thanks but no thanks i'll stick with Cousins!!!!!!!!
from what it said Watson has like 22 civil cases against him yet!!!!!!
Yeah, I can't believe the Wilf's would greenlight that deal after they had to pay Adrian Peterson for a year while he sat out for beating his kid. Especially after the Texan's extended Watson's contract thru 2025. Next year Watson's Salary Cap Hit is $40M.
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Ya I bet he would like to play for anyone. He is delusional. Don't need him.
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It's official.....O'Connell is the new head coach.
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Heard a rumor he may be bringing another of his buddies with him. Don't remember the name but he was the assistant DB coach out there & a good friend of O'Connell's. I would think he would start naming some of his staff pretty quick, maybe even in his press conference today.
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:scratch: Thought this was a good read & that some of you might give it a go: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/five-takeaways-from-kevin-o-connell-s-first-press-conference-as-vikings-head-coach/ar-AAU1ikA?oci
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I'm glad they got their guy. We hope he has what it takes to win in today's NFL. He might have learned something from drinking coffee every morning with Sean McVay, but only time will tell if that translates to being a successful head coach on his own.
I can't get excited until I see what they plan to do with Kirk. I just hope that if they extend him again, the Vikings have a more team-friendly out clause that the previous regime negotiated.
Or I would be just as happy if they figured out how to trade him for someone better or easier to cut.
Or just let him play out his contract (and lose a bunch of games because you can't afford other players because of Cousins' big cap hit) and start from scratch the following year.
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well it does sound like O'Donnel likes #8, so.........but i've been reading for what its worth #8 has no interest in helping the team by redoing his contract.......if thats the case when his current contract is up.......he needs to go away. :confused: :doah:
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:scratch: McVay???? :doofus: :confused:
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:scratch: McVay???? :doofus: :confused:
:scratch: :scratch: what????? :scratch: :rolleyes:
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Didnt he blow up the federal reserve bld??
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:scratch: O'Donnel???? :doofus: :confused: :sleazy: :nerd: :nerd: :evil: ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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More of the coaching staff named ............................................... by Kevin O'Connell : :whistling: ;) https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-add-daronte-jones-mike-smith-ben-kotwica-to-coaching-staff/ar-AAU8O96?ocid=msedgntp
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Didnt he blow up the federal reserve bld??
I think that one took a well needed rest about 10 years ago! :happy1:
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Didnt he blow up the federal reserve bld??
I think that one took a well needed rest about 10 years ago! :happy1:
Looks like it was more like 20 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh
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:scratch: McVay???? :doofus: :confused:
:scratch: :scratch: what????? :scratch: :rolleyes:
:scratch: Maybe you should think about asking that Teal's gang to take it a little easy on you on Thursday. ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I see the Panthers called the Vikes to ask about Kapt. Kirk's availability next season.
Who knows what was really said or what will change in the coming months. The thing about that particular rumor is that nothing was said about what the Panthers were willing to give up to get Cousins.
All this could work for the Vikes... They could ask (tell) Kirk to take a team friendly contract or get traded to the Panthers! :happy1:
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:pouty: ok, i'm already regretting saying this, BUT if they dump cousins WHO else is out there?????? seen an article where Davin Cook said there going to win the super bowl. there has to be some good vibes on the team now with the new regime. :scratch:
so I know i've bashed cousins..........but really he aint all that bad a QB.....compared to whats out there.......i mean Trubisnky is available? :crazy: :crazy: :doofus: :rotflmao:
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:happy1: :confused: ........................ :shocked: :doah: :bonk: You :sick:? ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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That's just it. If they dumped Kirk who would we get to get us through the season? I still like the idea of someone like Teddy just to be a mentor to whoever we draft or trade for. Have to let them know right up front that's the deal.
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:happy1: :confused: ........................ :shocked: :doah: :bonk: You :sick:? ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: yea i think so........the fact i cant or shouldnt go up to the cabin for the last weekend of spearing due to lake conditions, this winter weather is having a profound effect on my body chemistry!!!!! :confused: :rotflmao:
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Rumour has it that Jimmy G is the top QB available, but I also seen it reported that TB has already shown interest. It might take 3 #1's & 1 of the Bucs starters, which they thought might be possible, to pry him loose from SF though. :crazy: :confused:
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I see Jimmy G and Kapt. Kirk as the same guy.
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I see Jimmy G and Kapt. Kirk as the same guy.
yea kinda.....but Jimmy has way more help on both sides the ball then our guy!!!!!!!!! specifically on the offensive line side!!!!!
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9 er's D line is pretty good, deep too.
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9 er's D line is pretty good, deep too.
Yeah, but if the Vikings can improve the Offensive Line, Defensive Line, Linebackers, and Cornerbacks, they will be good too. :bonk:
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I would rather have Jimmy G. But we need other help too. I can't find any info about offers from Panthers other than that they called. I also read in a few places that Kirk is not willing to take any offers less than what he makes now to help the team. Cut him as far as I am concerned. On to the next chapter.
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I also read in a few places that Kirk is not willing to take any offers less than what he makes now to help the team.
We'll see.
First off, Cousins is good, not great. Can he be great in the right in the right system? :confused: He's goona get another chance to find out... with the Vikes or some other team.
As for his next deal...
The stars were aligned for him when the Vikes picked him up. The Redskins refused to give him a long term deal because they saw Kirk's limitations. After putting a franchise tag on him a couple of years, Kirk was a free agent QB who put up good numbers on a bad team. Kirk bet on himself and won. The Vikes gave him the first-ever fully guaranteed contract in the NFL.
Fast forward to now. Kirk is still a quarterback to is still putting up good numbers on a middling team with an overall .500 record for his career. It appears he is NOT an elite quarterback who makes others better and wills his team to victory.
Everyone in the league knows who he is now. You are what your record says you are. And even though QB salaries have continued to rise, which team is going to be willing to pay elite QB money to a guy with a .500 record. :scratch:
So Kirk will have a choice. Take a team friendly deal with a team he reportedly likes - or take his chances elsewhere. He bet on himself once. :popcorn:
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He has done an excellent job of marketing himself. No doubt about that. It may bite him eventually but he will have the last laugh. I have no idea how much he has stashed away for retirement but it is a huge amount of money. How much does one need???
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That's just it. If they dumped Kirk who would we get to get us through the season? I still like the idea of someone like Teddy just to be a mentor to whoever we draft or trade for. Have to let them know right up front that's the deal.
I saw enough of Teddy before he got hurt. If you want to do a backup quarterback as a starter bring Keenum back.
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I would rather have Jimmy G. But we need other help too. I can't find any info about offers from Panthers other than that they called. I also read in a few places that Kirk is not willing to take any offers less than what he makes now to help the team. Cut him as far as I am concerned. On to the next chapter.
I don't think they want to cut him.....they would still have to pay him $35 mil and would still count for $45 mil against the cap.
As for trading him to Carolina....they could get Sam Darnold in the trade for 1 year.
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As for trading him to Carolina....they could get Sam Darnold in the trade for 1 year.
:puke:
I'd rather see them get a jugs machine and a bag of balls.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-25-2015/Z8skqI.gif)
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:scratch: Just seen this on my browser's homepage & thought it might be of interest to some of the rest of you!! https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/new-vikings-defensive-coordinator-ed-donatell-on-danielle-hunter-scheme-3-4-fronts/ar-AAUgquK?ocid=ms
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think they could bring that kicker......Carlson back??????? :sleazy: :evil: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: Think he really likes it with the Raiders as he's hardly missed since they signed him. :doah:
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To absolutely no surprise, Kirk Cousins won’t give Vikings a discount (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/04/to-absolutely-no-surprise-kirk-cousins-wont-give-vikings-a-discount/)
Again, Cousins has every right to work the system for every last dollar. As long as there are teams willing to pay him huge money to lead their franchises to outcomes slightly above mediocrity, it will continue.
The Vikings seem to be content to let Cousins give it one more try, unless they can find a quarterback-desperate team that is willing to absorb his $35 million salary and give the Vikings real value in return. Even then, the Vikings would have to be confident that they have a better alternative. While Cousins isn’t among the best quarterbacks in the NFL, the best quarterbacks in the NFL aren’t readily available.
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I read somewhere the 2 sides are talking???
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I think they would even drop down a notch if the new QB had a chance to improve in a year or two.
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Doesn’t look like the draft class has much to pick from in the QB department, and I don’t see a lot of viable free agents around. Cousins is looking out for Cousins. He’s probably holding all the cards because of his stats, which don’t reflect the intangible lack of leadership and what seems to be no ability to inspire teammates.
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Doesn’t look like the draft class has much to pick from in the QB department, and I don’t see a lot of viable free agents around. Cousins is looking out for Cousins. He’s probably holding all the cards because of his stats, which don’t reflect the intangible lack of leadership and what seems to be no ability to inspire teammates.
I'd like to see one more year with cousins with this new coaching staff.
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What? Who is this? Show me your I.D. What did you do with Glenn????
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What? Who is this? Show me your I.D. What did you do with Glenn????
:crazy: :confused: :scratch: :bonk: :doah:
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I was thinking the same thing FW, he musta been deep da kool-aid.. ;)
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: i figured i'd throw you guys off course!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
i'll see this comingfootball season, but i think the past coaching staff had alot to do with the failures of this team!!!!!! :scratch:
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Yes it is all up from here with Kirk or not. They may be able to pamper him into being more aggressive. Really looking forward to it.
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I just read that Malik Willis ??sp was throwing 60 yard passes accurately at the Combine. The next best QB was throwing them short and his recievers had to stop and wait for the ball. That make me more interested in him. So let Kirk go to Denver or Pittsburgh along with K--aaron and maybe we could snag Willis in the draft. Sounds like a fun scenario.
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:scratch: He's from a really small school & many think he needs to set a year, at least. Not many good QBs in this draft & most, if not all, will be gone in the 1st 8 picks. A lot of very good DL, OL, & WR this year though, is what McShay said this am.
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just read that the Vikings got rid of there athletic trainer......this Sugarman????????? been with the club 16 years......think thats :bs: but life goes on!!
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That surprises me. I thought he was a pretty good at what he did.
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There a few ex-players tweeting out now that Eric "Shoog" Sugarman wasn't such a great guy, but those players are only telling their side of the story. Hard to know how these players treated the trainer.
Hey, if you're a decision maker in an NFL locker room for 16 years, you ain't going to make everyone happy all the time; especially in today's NFL where more and more players are trying to find their "voice" and build their "brand."
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Things are changing all of the time like it or not. What used to work great may not work now I guess.
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I just read that Malik Willis ??sp was throwing 60 yard passes accurately at the Combine. The next best QB was throwing them short and his recievers had to stop and wait for the ball. That make me more interested in him. So let Kirk go to Denver or Pittsburgh along with K--aaron and maybe we could snag Willis in the draft. Sounds like a fun scenario.
Willis was lofting rainbows up and the receivers were running under them. Kind of like we use to do in the front yard. There are far better options floating around than Willis IMO. It's a terrible quarterback class from what i'm reading. With Erin back in GB the Vikings aren't beating the Packers anyway. Lets see what Glenns Cousin and a new offense can do. Why are we talking football in March? :pouty:
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Because there is no baseball. And it beats the NBA and NHL.
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naw hockeys starting to get good.... the college tourneys are just around the corner!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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And if the Wild can get back to playing the way they were before the All Star Break, there might be another bandwagon to jump on.
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Actually the Wolves are looking like they might be worth watching.
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I don't watch either very much but do kind of watch how they're doing often. The Wild were playing great before their ASB but have really struggled since, just the opposite for the T'wolves. :scratch:
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so lately i've been reading alot on MSN about the Vikings unlading some of there star players due to salary cap. i think, or hope alot of it is :bs: but its out there.
guys like cousins, thelen, cook, barr, conklin, hendriks and smith! personally i think some may be gone unfortunately but i think its a mistake!!!!!
wadda you guys think??????? just thinking out loud!!!!!!!!
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I think they need to get rid of some of those based on age value, but theiland and cook should stay. As far as yu thinking outloud i knew i heard a fart.
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They have 4 days to be under the salary cap. Something has to give. Either Cousins goes or the others.
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Texans QB
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Depends on what Houston wants for a trade for Watson. I think there are other teams willing to offer more. But Watson has a no trade clause. So he has to agree with who the trade is with. He has said he would play for the Vikings. But Carolina is most likely to give the most. But he has said he doesn't want to go there. It will be decided probably by the end of next week. Then the NFL has to decide if they will suspend him.
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:scratch: I read where he might carry a Russel Wilson like price tag, 2-#1s, 2-#2s, 3 starters, & a 5th rounder. No thanks. :rolleyes: :bonk: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/four-teams-leading-the-pursuit-of-texans-quarterback-deshaun-watson/ar-AAUZ2Ck?ocid=uxb
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We can only afford so much.
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Legal tampering period starts tomorrow. New league year starts Wednesday, when trades can be made. Will be interesting what the Vikes decide to do with Cousins and his $45 million cap hit.
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I would hate to see Kendricks go. He does a lot of tackling.
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I wouldn't want Watson if Houston paid his salary, drove him up here and gave him to the Vikings for free.
The guy is a pig and the stink will be on him forever. Actually calling him a pig is a insult to pigs.
There might not have been enough to indict him but where there is smoke from 22 women there is at least one fire.
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I have to agree Dutchy. How can people be found not guilty enough to be punished legally but still guilty enough to have to pay out money. Baffles me. Terrible role model and I don't think the Vikings would stoop that low.
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Vikes could lower Cousin's 2022 salary to $1 million and pay the rest in signing bonuses over the next 5 years. That would drop his Cap salary to $18 million next year. Then he would become a free agent after next year.
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no way the Vikings go get Watson. think the organization has had its belly full of guys like that after what they did to Gladney and the love boat ordeal!!!! i least i hope so!!!!!
we'd be better off with capt kirk.........or a rookie!!!!!!
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Ok
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I'd sure like to know how Gladney was acquitted down in Texas. He choked his girlfriend and dragged her by her hair, but he wasn't guilty of assault? :confused: :angry:
The girlfriend must have testified on his behalf and said it was all her fault; that Gladney is really a loving, caring man.
:crazy: :thumbs:
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:scratch: She's probably pregnant with his kid & I'll bet he promised her that if she helped get the charges dropped he'd change his ways. :crazy: :pouty:
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Or he wrote a check. Funny how money for a early 20 something can make your memory foggy.
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To move away from Cousins, the Vikings would have to trade him for mediocre value, then sign a journeyman stopgap quarterback and admit they're trying to rebuild.
Not a good plan. With Wilson moving to the AFC and Brady retiring (at least so far) Cousins moves into the top 5 in the NFC QB's. Best not to trade him. They wouldn't get what he is worth.
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Vikes sign Cousins to 1 year extension.
Cousins was due to make $35 million in 2022. He has signed a one-year extension, at another $35 million. His pay this year increases to $40 million.
Cousins’s cap number for 2022 drops from $45.166 million to $31.25 million.
The deal also has a no-trade clause.
So is this what some other team wants to trade him???? We shall see.
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Why??????
Waste of money to be mediocre
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Better than a no name replacement for how long??
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:scratch: Personally, I always thought it would most likely end up going this route. Especially with the current market on QBs where, otherwise, it probably ends up being like another Herschel Walker trade. :crazy: :pouty:
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I think it would be interwsting to see what they can build around him
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I'm giving cousins 1 game, if he sucks I'm going back to bashing him... Or the first loss!! :evil: :rotflmao:
I hope he does well, so if that redone deal did in fact lower the cap I guess he is a little bit of a team player. :scratch: but man he's making some Cha ching.$$$$$
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/vikings-sign-kirk-cousins-to-fully-guaranteed-35m-extension-through-2023-ahead-of-free-agency-per-re :scratch: Kaaron's new deal is reportedly for $50 mil/yr. :rolleyes:
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As boring of person as Kirk seems I do admit he is the best thing going for us at this time. I do trust our new management and think they can create a fun season and bring out the best instead of the worst that it seemed like Zim was doing the last year or two.
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Maybe this is as "team-friendly" as we could have expected - a short term deal that doesn't cripple the team's salary cap this year. Kirk gets more money and the contract is still fully guaranteed, but I think it will be easier to cut him next year if things don't work out.
If Kapt. Kirk plays better under the new regime and/or the Vikes win more games, then I guess he will be earning his pay.
If things don't click next season, hopefully they will be bad enough to be able to draft a good quarterback.
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AND they better get serious about a good backup to develop too.
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Seeing how Cousins seems pretty durable I think they keep Mond around another year to see what they have with him.
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Keeping Mond is safe and cheap. Spielman might have saw something in him, but Zim was pissed that Spielman didn't spend the pick on a win-now player to try and save their jobs.*
I'll bet Zimmer didn't say 'hi' to Mond in the halls at the practice facility either. :bonk:
*Actually, I think the Mond pick was Spielman's way of trying to save his own job. He could see the writing on the wall for Zim, but I think he wanted to show the Wilf's that by picking a QB for the future, he was still building the team for the long run.
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I see they signed a DT from the Bills, so Pierce was released yday as a result. Woods is a FA & signed with Carolina & Cole, the C/G they got from Arizona last season, has signed with the Steelers. Bynum is expected to get a shot at Woods's spot, but Dozier is gone too so I expect them to sign at least a couple more OL. Probably draft help there too, if they can.
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... so I expect them to sign at least a couple more OL. Probably draft help there too, if they can.
That is probably the biggest indictment against Spielman - his inability to build an offensive line. And when he did invest draft capital, he ended up with guys who didn't pan out.
Zim's win-with-defense mentality probably shaded Spielman's draft picks towards the defense too early and too often, but ultimately Spielman owns the decisions.
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Glad things are happening. Pierce sucked us dry in the two years he was here.
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Glad things are happening. Pierce sucked us dry in the two years he was here.
That might be the main thing that keeps the NFL rolling...
For every guy that "gets paid," there are two guys waiting to take his place and prove themselves.
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Glad things are happening. Pierce sucked us dry in the two years he was here.
Think I seen where he would've been > $10 mil cap hit this season & letting him go save ~ $6 mil in cap space. Besides he only played 8 games in 3 seasons. They have 2-3 young guys at both DT & G that looked like they could help this season IMO.
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Did the teams have to pay these guys when they decided to sit out because of the Rona???
I think teams maybe cutting guys because they did, but really have no proof??!
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Did the teams have to pay these guys when they decided to sit out because of the Rona???
I think teams maybe cutting guys because they did, but really have no proof??!
NFL players taking coronavirus opt-outs will still be paid: Here's how much (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-coronavirus-opt-outs-pay-stipend-benefits)
Any player considered a “high-risk” case for COVID-19 is eligible for a $350,000 stipend, as well as full benefits and an accrued season toward free agency. The player must have a diagnosed medical history with a high-risk factor, such as cancer, chronic kidney disease and diabetes.
Voluntary opt-outs are also possible for players who don’t feel comfortable playing this season given the public health crisis, provided the player is already under contract. Those players are eligible for a $150,000 stipend, but will not earn an accrued season toward free agency.
I don't know if Pierce was high-risk or voluntary. Maybe you can forgive a big guy for wanting to sit out the Covid year of 2020, but when you pair that up with a season where he played less than half of the games, you can start to question his health and availability. Couple that with his high cap hit, replacements waiting in the wings, and Zim's departure - Pierce as a "cap casualty" is probably the biggest-no-brainer-in-the-history-of-man.
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I think Pierce had asthma or something like that. So he qualified.
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I think Pierce had asthma or something like that. So he qualified.
That is what I read that too, LPS. To his credit, by the end of that season he did come out & say that after seeing the way the league handled the CV-19 protocols/testing /issue he wished he hadn't opted out, in hindsight.
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:scratch: I see they signed a LB from Arizona that's likely to play inside with Kendricks. Barr may be moving on now as a result or at least need to sign a new deal that's team friendly in order to stick around. :confused:
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:scratch: I see they signed a LB from Arizona that's likely to play inside with Kendricks. Barr may be moving on now as a result or at least need to sign a new deal that's team friendly in order to stick around. :confused:
i just read that too!!!!!! :scratch: Barr and this Vigil hit free agency!!! there could be alot of new faces on that roster this year!!!!!!!
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Barr had the talent to be a big impact player, but it didn't always show to be the case. He often seemed to be overrated, but Zim insisted that a player like Barr, doing the little things that don't show up on the stat sheet, were the glue that held his defense together.
Barr's injuries and diminished production made his contract a bad deal, and there will be $10M of dead salary cap money on the books next year if he leaves.
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It almost seemed to me Like Zim held Barr back some.
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Vikings are barely under the cap and need more space to sign Harrison Phillips from the Bills.
Here is where they will most likely have to make changes. Especially if they want to sign any other free agents....
Defensive end Danielle Hunter ($26 million, including an $18 million roster bonus due Sunday), receiver Adam Thielen (nearly $17 million), linebacker Eric Kendricks ($13.5 million), safety Harrison Smith ($13.5 million) and running back Dalvin Cook ($12 million).
I'm guessing Hunter has to go or change his contract. Question is.....Will someone trade for him?
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there was talk of Thelen doing something with his!!!!!!! :scratch: :scratch:
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Decision on Hunter has to be made by Sunday. Thelen would be next. I know that being from Detroit Lakes makes him want to retire a Viking.
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Thelen would be next. I know that being from Detroit Lakes makes him want to retire a Viking.
Never say never...
But I would have to agree, that unless things went really sour, Thielen probably know his "brand" is worth the most in Minnesota.
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Yup I would go Hunter and Barr first. I think Theilen would do an even friendlier deal than he already did a couple of years ago just to stay here. I hope Kendricks would do a deal with us too. He is the backbone of tackling on our defense the last few years.
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Just heard browns relased tretter, thad be a good pick up for o line
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:scratch: A younger, cheaper alternative to the guy, Cole, that signed with the Steelers & the new coachs already know him. :happy1: :cool: https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/3/16/22981993/minnesota-vikings-agree-to-terms-ol-austin-schlottmann-denver-broncos
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Vikes restructure Harrison Smith and save 6 mil.
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Hanging on to assets/investments based on past performances is going to hurt you as an investor and as a GM. Smith and Thelen...they were great players for the Vikings. But, they are aging vets and are only going to decline...trade them now before they are of no value and while taking up valuable cap space for younger players.
And Hunter who I believe is only 26 has only payed 7 games the past 2 seasons isn't worth it again. Trade and get the most you can now.
All of that dead cap money from void-years deals that the “cap is a myth” folks thought didn’t exist dropped on the Vikings’ head on Wednesday. They now have $22 million in dead cap space. Are they still paying cap space to Kyle Rudolph? You betcha.
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Here is the current dead cap money...
Name Cap Number
Anthony Barr $9,890,000
Michael Pierce $4,000,000
Kyle Rudolph $2,900,000
Jeff Gladney $2,776,738
Sheldon Richardson $1,283,334
Britton Colquitt $716,668
Zach Davidson $226,329
Dru Samia $184,985
TOTAL $22,089,562
This article is almost too long, but it does a good job of explaining the tricks team play in terms someone like me can understand.
How the Vikings Abuse the NFL Salary Cap (https://zonecoverage.com/2022/minnesota-vikings-news/how-the-vikings-abuse-the-nfl-salary-cap/)
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Sure sounds like kicking the can down the road.
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As long as the salary cap keeps going up, they can do that forever.
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well it looks like the Vikings dont have to worry about Davante Adams from the Packers ripping up the Vikings defense twice a year.....
he signs a record setting deal with the raiders for a tune of $141 mill!!!!!!!!
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WOW! He told the Pack he wouldn't play under the Franchise Tag and turned down a $23Mil / year offer.
Some guys just aren't satisfied until they get respected.
(I think it is a HUGE mistake to pay a receiver that much money, but maybe the Raiders can make it work.)
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I agree. He may not be as important as he thinks he is. It's easy to win our division. May not be so easy where he is now. So what is K-aaron going to do now?
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So what is K-aaron going to do now?
This... :confused:
:cry: :queen: :cry:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Sure sounds like kicking the can down the road.
Question is.....How far can it be kicked before it bites you in the **s. They are close and basically not signing difference making free agents.
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well it looks like the Vikings dont have to worry about Davante Adams from the Packers ripping up the Vikings defense twice a year.....
he signs a record setting deal with the raiders for a tune of $141 mill!!!!!!!!
I read where GB offered him more $ & he said no. He said he wanted out & specified that he wanted to go to the Raiders because he went to college with Carr at Fresno St. The article also said K-aaron knew ALL of this when he signed his new deal. :scratch:
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well it looks like the Vikings dont have to worry about Davante Adams from the Packers ripping up the Vikings defense twice a year.....
he signs a record setting deal with the raiders for a tune of $141 mill!!!!!!!!
I read where GB offered him more $ & he said no. He said he wanted out & specified that he wanted to go to the Raiders because he went to college with Carr at Fresno St. The article also said K-aaron knew ALL of this when he signed his new deal. :scratch:
tells me Adams might of been tired of the selfish pig Erin!!!!!!!!!!
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:scratch: I thought they were best buds!! :shocked: :confused:
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I thought they were tight too. He did say he wasn't going play on the franchise tag all along and that is what they wanted to do. So that is good news for us. May have been tired of K-aarons BS. I don't see them being that good.
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:scratch: I thought they were best buds!! :shocked: :confused:
apparently not!!!!!! but maybe hanging around Erin he got money grubbin greedy like him. tends to rub off. :rolleyes: besides maybe Adams might get to play in a few more playoff games with the raiders rather then the one and done in GB!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
hopefully there Oline feels the same way and they let the defense slap Erin around!!! :rotflmao:
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:scratch: I'm not sure it's always about $ for ALL these guys, after a while. :confused: They know they have enough & want to have fun playing again & somewhere that they can win. Not like some pc of property. :rolleyes:
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Yes, who knows what these guys are thinking with all of the Monopoly money floating around.
What I think don't matter, but I think BOTH Kaaron and Devante are Alphas drama :queen:'s who need to be validated and respected by making the MOST money - if only for a short time until the next big contract comes along.
Maybe Devante was smart. If both he AND ARog were sucking up so much of the salary cap, the rest of the team was bound to be weaker. If Devante wanted to get paid AND win, it probably was in his best interest to force a trade and go to a different team.
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May want his own identity without Rodgers influence.
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May want his own identity without Rodgers influence.
Yep, Alphas need to be Da Man!
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The Vikings and receiver Adam Thielen agreed to restructure his contract, keeping him in Minnesota this coming season, his agent announced on Twitter. The reworked deal lowers the two-time Pro Bowler’s cap number this season and includes a $9 million signing bonus, a source told The Athletic.
Thielen included a video recorded message in the announcement letting fans know how happy he was to return.
“I guess you can’t get rid of me yet,” he said. “I’m super excited to be back in purple, to ultimately try to bring a championship to this city that so much deserves it.”
The Vikings have had a busy offseason, which included hiring a new general manager in Kwesi Adofo-Mensah and a new head coach, former Rams offensive coordinator Kevin O'Connell. Minnesota also gave quarterback Kirk Cousins a contract extension.
“So excited about the leadership and everything that’s being put in place in this organization,” Thielen said. “Can’t wait to get back to work and to really build on something special.”
The 31-year-old receiver has played all eight of his NFL seasons with the Vikings since signing with the franchise as an undrafted free agent in 2014. He played in 13 games last season and caught 67 passes for 726 yards and 10 touchdowns.
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Now.....what about Hunter?????
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Watson just got traded to Cleveland. There is a new / special kind of puke coming to Ohio.
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Watson just got traded to Cleveland. There is a new / special kind of puke coming to Ohio.
NFL team front offices are in the big business of winning football games. I'll bet they often have to check their own scruples at the door and hold their noses for a bunch of stuff that happens in the locker room and away from the team facility.
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The sports guy on WDIO out of Duluth called our new coach a "offensive guru" tonight. Who knew. :cheesy:
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The sports guy on WDIO out of Duluth called our new coach a "offensive guru" tonight. Who knew. :cheesy:
with cousins......we'll see!!!!!!!! :pouty: :evil: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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The sports guy on WDIO out of Duluth called our new coach a "offensive guru" tonight. Who knew. :cheesy:
So was Chili... :confused:
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I think Zimmer was supposed to be a defensive guru. And their defense was 1 of the worst in the NFL. I think the Wilfs wanted a better offense and get the most out of Cousins.
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:scratch: He's still lookin for work too.....................isn't he? :confused:
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Even though Zim said he would like to coach this year I think he may have let his attitude darken his chances with many teams
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:scratch: It might be good for him to take a year off IMO. :rolleyes:
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Ken.. wouldnt the 1st worst be the last not 1st??
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:scratch: It might be good for him to take a year off IMO. :rolleyes:
This is his girlfriend... It would be VERY good for him to take a year off. :sleazy:
(https://ml8dx8xgrqnj.i.optimole.com/zqdu3tw-6bPww9WJ/w:883/h:532/q:80/https://www.awesemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/MIke-zimmer-girlfriend.jpg)
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Ken.. wouldnt the 1st worst be the last not 1st??
I said 1 of the worst. Not the worst. They ranked 28th in passing defense and 26th in rushing defense. But did rank 2nd in sacks. Even w/o Hunter.
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Oh sorry thought u pulled a glenn
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Oh sorry thought u pulled a glenn
yea maybe you should lighten up on the pain meds!!!!!!!!! :mooning: :mooning: :pouty: :rotflmao:
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Looks like the Vikings are keeping Hunter.👍
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Yup.....Had to pay his roster bonus today. Looks like he stays for 2 more years. Great if they can afford it and if he actually plays some games.
Now just draft some CB's.
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This guy https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/21/zadarius-smith-visiting-vikings/ might be able to help if he can stay on the field. He had surgery last season & looks to be healthy again though. :scratch: The discussion in the video on the team's issues is a good 1 too IMO.
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Yup.....Had to pay his roster bonus today. Looks like he stays for 2 more years. Great if they can afford it and if he actually plays some games.
He could hold out if he doesn't like his deal. :doah:
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:scratch: Some think his deal may still be redone to lessen his cap hit & may even include an extension. :confused: https://vikingsterritory.com/2022/general-news/vikings-star-pass-rusher-is-creating-discourse
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Say what you will about Kapt. Kirk, but lucky for the Vikes, he has been durable and not missed many games.
Vikings re-signing Sean Mannion as Backup Quarterback (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/22/vikings-re-signing-sean-mannion/) :doah:
The Vikings also have 2021 third-round pick Kellen Mond and 2020 seventh-round pick Nate Stanley on the quarterback depth chart. :embarrassed:
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After visiting with the Vikings on Monday, Smith has agreed to a three-year, $42 million deal that’s worth up to $47 million, according to multiple reports.
Gonna smack Rogers twice a year. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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I don't understand letting Mannion take the place of a true football player on the squad. He is absolutely worthless. I agree with what someone else said, let Cousins pay him to be his sideline boy.
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Right on, LPS. I couldn’t agree more.
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After visiting with the Vikings on Monday, Smith has agreed to a three-year, $42 million deal that’s worth up to $47 million, according to multiple reports.
Gonna smack Rogers twice a year. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
The pc I read said he was happy to get out GB & liked it that 2 of his early coaches are now on the Vikings staff. :cool:
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Hey Vikes! Here is how you "sell high" in the NFL.
Chiefs to trade Tyreek Hill to Dolphins for multiple draft picks in NFL shocker: reports (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tyreek-hill-trade-dolphins-chiefs-draft-picks)
The Chiefs reportedly get five draft picks in return: a 2022 first-round pick (No. 29), a second-round pick (No. 50) and a fourth-round pick as well as a 2023 fourth-round pick and sixth-round pick.
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double post
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:oops1: I just put it the NFl thread too. :bonk:
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Wow!
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Glenns cousin Kirks interview on McAfee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBj2Z1_Ay5w
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Cornerback Chandon Sullivan, who started 20 games as Green Bay's slot corner over the past two seasons, is expected for a free-agent visit at TCO Performance Center in Eagan, a league source confirmed.
Only the best Packers get to be Vikings. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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:scratch: It looks like the Smith deal was pretty team friendly too.https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/24/inside-the-zadarius-smith-deal/
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More good news. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/marquez-valdes-scantling-says-he-turned-down-more-money-to-play-for-chiefs/ar-AAVuZCj?ocid=msedgntp
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Cornerback Chandon Sullivan, who started 20 games as Green Bay's slot corner over the past two seasons, is expected for a free-agent visit at TCO Performance Center in Eagan, a league source confirmed.
Only the best Packers get to be Vikings. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
:scratch: Thought I seen where they signed him, Ken.
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Several players leaving the fudge huh? :happy1: Have the vikes done anything for the o line yet?
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They signed a C/G from the Broncos to replace Cole who left to go to the Steelers.https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/3/16/22981993/minnesota-vikings-agree-to-terms-ol-austin-schlottmann-denver-broncos It's between OL & CB/S for their 1st couple rounds of the draft this year IMO. They do have 2-3 young guys on the OL that got some PT last year & didn't look too bad that will probably get a shot to begin this season too.
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Cornerback Chandon Sullivan, who started 20 games as Green Bay's slot corner over the past two seasons, is expected for a free-agent visit at TCO Performance Center in Eagan, a league source confirmed.
Only the best Packers get to be Vikings. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
:scratch: Thought I seen where they signed him, Ken.
Yes they did.
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i see the Vikings signed 3 new players yesterday!!!!!!!
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An OL from Miami & 2 CBs, 1 was already with the Vikings. https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-officially-sign-ol-jesse-davis-cbs-nate-hairston-tye-smith
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i see the Vikings signed 3 new players yesterday!!!!!!!
:scratch: A writer mentioned it in a pc I read yday but I noticed it a week or so ago too. Almost all of the FAs they've signed have been with somebody on the new coaching staff before sometime, somewhere. Makes sense to me. :happy1: :cool:
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Before she went to work the wife told me that AP wants to retire in purple. That would be fine with me.
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When it was reported AP beat is little boy with a switch I was done with him.
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Hes outa juice
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:scratch: I hadn't heard that but it looks like she's right. https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/adrian-peterson-says-he-wants-to-retire-as-a-minnesota-viking Sssssh!! ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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Hes outa juice
:scratch: I'd be :shocked: if they brought him back for anything other than just to let him retire. Probably not even 1 carry IMO.
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Would be a one day thing like Jarrod Allen's deal.
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:scratch: I hadn't heard that but it looks like she's right. https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/adrian-peterson-says-he-wants-to-retire-as-a-minnesota-viking Sssssh!! ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
well the NFL and Vikings could set an example and say NO....... for what he did!!!!!! :scratch:
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:scratch: yeah right!! :rolleyes:
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Yeah, that's goona be interesting to see how the handle that one. Will they decide to have a ceremony on the field during a game?
Just because they do the one day contract, it doesn't mean they HAVE to make a big deal out of it.
But will they? :confused: And if they do, how will the fan's react? :popcorn:
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Would be a one day thing like Jarrod Allen's deal.
Odd I never even remember hearing about that. I did think it odd that I saw some Loto card at the Fleet Farm gas station with his picture as a Viking? :scratch:
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Back when it happened the media sports guys made us think he really was coming back. I remember talking to my brothers about whether he would be any good. LOL Then the next day they admitted it was a 1 day thing so he could retire as a Viking. I don't care if the let Adrian or not. I think he too was not treated the best as a child.
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Agreed LPS. :happy1:
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When it was reported AP beat is little boy with a switch I was done with him.
Me too :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
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Vikes resign CB Patrick Peterson. He said on a podcast on Wednesday he will sign a one-year deal to return to the team, which signed Peterson to a one-year, $8 million deal in free agency last year.
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Just read that Vegas has the Vikes at 8.5 wins so far for this season.
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Vikes resign CB Patrick Peterson. He said on a podcast on Wednesday he will sign a one-year deal to return to the team, which signed Peterson to a one-year, $8 million deal in free agency last year.
Read somewhere that he said he could've got more $ but declined. :happy1: :cool:
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Who? Oh Peterson
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:oops1: Better? :doofus: :bonk: ;) :rolleyes: :laugh:
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Just read that Vegas has the Vikes at 8.5 wins so far for this season.
That seems like a safe prognostication.
They got rid of an obsolete-minded coach whose message had worn thin and replaced him with some new up-and-comers, but Kirk has had a new OC virtually ever year he has been here; maybe they expect it will take a season or so for the new system to click.
The Vikes seem to have kicked their salary cap problem can down the road another year, and even signed some good-on-paper free agents to short term deals this year. But the defense was REALLY bad the last two years under a defense guru head coach.
I think the *new* Vikes are going to have to prove it before they get any respect from Vegas.
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I know they probably won't but I would like to see the Vikes take Willis QB with our first pick if he is still there. Would be cheaper than if he was in first round. Sure don't hear them talk much about Stanley or Mond. Use them as trade bait.
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I heard P.A., Charch, and the other talking heads flapping their gums about Willis too.
Getting that extra 3rd rounder and moving up in the 2nd might give them the breathing space to draft a back-up QB to replace Mond & Manion, assuming the new regime rates Mond as low as Zim did.
And right before the Packers pick last night, P.A. was egging them on to draft Willis - just to piss off Rodgers - like they did when they drafted Love without KAaron's permission.
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Oh ya wasn't even thinking of Mannion. Now isn't that a wasted pick to hold Kirks hand on the sideline. Make him pay for his own phycologist. Just the fact that he is on the roster says something to me as to the abilities of the other two. You can't be any worse than Mannion but he gets the nod over them???
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Why use a pick on a guy who can't play?
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Hopefully tampa passes on that linebacker
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Which linebacker are you hoping is available?
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Vikings trade down with Packers. Who took Watson WR from NDSU. They now have picks 56, 58, 66, and 77 all tonight.
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Another trade back up with the Colts. Took CB from Clemson. Still have 2 picks left tonight.
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Props to you Steve, how you can watch day 2 of a draft is beyond me. Vikings have absolutely no chance of me watching the draft on a Friday night when rasslin is on. :happy1:
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Another trade back up with the Colts. Took CB from Clemson. Still have 2 picks left tonight.
A G from LSU & a ILB from OK were the other 2 picks. The CB could be a steal, if he can stay healthy. :cool: The LB is good on coverage & as an edge rusher but is undersized, so he often struggles against the run. The G wasn't rated to go that high is what I read, but we really need help there so................. :scratch:
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Just read that the Guard was charged with molesting a minor. Charges were later dropped. Booth CB has a disease that affects the knees and has had a hernia each of the last two years. He said he had played through injuries every year back to high school. The LB we got last night is good I guess. Cine from first night seems like the gem of this draft. I was so looking forward to this draft and I feel like this is the most disappointed I have been after one. I think Kewsi's analytics got him taken to the cleaners by GB and Det who got great picks from us. We got the leftovers.
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:scratch: From what I've read, I think the 1st 4 picks could all see some PT early. A couple of 'em may even see a lot right away, will watch & see. :confused:
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Hope you are right Gunner. :happy1:
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Theres a method to his madness
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i periodically check on the draft, there's an offensive lineman thats from cold spring, played at NDSU thats expected to go somewhere the next few rounds. Matt Waletzko.. one prediction says the Vikings???///
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:happy1: He just went to the Cowboys, Rd 5/ pick # 155.
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Just got home. The Vikes just took a huge DE and a tough looking RB.
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This guy is Rick Spielman reincarnated.
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:scratch: It looks like they ended up with 10 picks, 5 on each side of the ball. https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft/teams/_/name/min/minnesota-vikings Before the draft I don't think they had more than 7. :huh:
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Method tonthe madness
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We got a B- grade for the draft and they say Detroit came out ahead on our trade with them.
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:scratch: How do they know how much, if at all, any of these picks will even play already. :confused: Some OL & DL players take a couple years or more to develop enough to even get on the field very much. :crazy: Think I'll wait & see who ends up doing what? :rolleyes:
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I saw one pundit gave the Vikes a D-...
- Didn't take one of the premium players available at #12
- Didn't get enough in return from Detroit to trade down
- Helped two division rivals move up to get players they wanted.
Of course this will all be forgotten if the Vikes improve and win the division. Personally, I don't buy the notion that you can't trade with division rivals. Detroit took Alabama wide receiver Jameson Williams. They say, "What happens if you have to face them twice a year and he burns you?"
I say you can't take a player just to keep him off someone else's team. That sounds like a sure way to lose. You have to build your own team. There is such a thing as a win-win trade.
Lewis Cine sounds like one ornery dude and paired with "Hitman" Harrison in the defensive secondary, if I were Detroit's Jameson Williams, I'd be afraid to face the Vikings twice a year. :doah:
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I agree Steve-o, these rating guys are just like the watchin the weather. If you don't like what 1 has to say, just change the channel. :rolleyes:
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I hear something else on the radio yesterday as a reminder...
There are more undrafted free agents in the Hall of Fame than 1st round draft picks.
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Now isn't that interesting!
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I heard something similar on 1 of the pre-draft shows too. On this show they said that 70% of the players in the NFL right now are 5 Rd picks or later. That sure surprised me. :crazy:
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OK. So now I want to fact check what I heard. Turns out to NOT be true by a long shot. I counted 107 first-rounders in HOF, but there are 17 undrafted players in as well.
Hall of Famers by Draft Round (https://www.profootballhof.com/hall-of-famers/hall-of-famers-by-draft-round/)
1946 - Frank Gatski – C, Cleveland Browns (AAFC), Lou Groza – T/K, Cleveland Browns (AAFC), Marion Motley – FB, Cleveland Browns (AAFC), Bill Willis – MG, Cleveland Browns (AAFC)
1948 - Joe Perry – FB, San Francisco 49ers (AAFC), Emlen Tunnell – S, New York Giants
1951 - Jack Butler – CB, Pittsburgh Steelers
1952 - Dick “Night Train” Lane – CB, Los Angeles Rams
1960 - Willie Wood – S, Green Bay Packers
1962 - Mick Tingelhoff – C, Minnesota Vikings
1963 - Willie Brown – CB, Houston Oilers*
1966 - Emmitt Thomas – CB, Kansas City Chiefs
1967 - Larry Little – G, San Diego Chargers
1970 - Jim Langer – C, Cleveland Browns
1984 - Warren Moon – QB, Houston Oilers
1990 - John Randle – DT, Minnesota Vikings
1998 - Kurt Warner – QB, St. Louis Rams
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Early round guys are the skill guys who take the beating and don't last. The later rounds are the guys who mostly play on the lines. If you can do your job on the line you can play 12 years or more. Then there are kickers, they last a long time and are mostly picked late.
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I wonder if that is still true for linemen in today's bigger-faster-stronger NFL. Those guys get beat up pretty good on every play.
I know some teams still have stalwart linemen, but the Vikes haven't been in that category for a long time.
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Remember big ol Phil Loadholt our center? He was twice as big as Bradbury. He could just walk straight ahead and a hole appeared. LOL
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Early round guys are the skill guys who take the beating and don't last. The later rounds are the guys who mostly play on the lines. If you can do your job on the line you can play 12 years or more. Then there are kickers, they last a long time and are mostly picked late.
Diggs was a 5th Rd pick. :scratch:
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Who says you can't trade with a division rival? :confused:
I just saw another unverified "click-bait" meme...
MIN traded with DET in 2015 and ended up with Danielle Hunter from the deal. DET used the trade to draft Alex Carter, who played one game for the franchise.
They also did business in 2010. DET got Jahvid Best and Jason Fox. The Vikings drafted Everson Griffen.
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It all depends on whether the guy even works out.
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read yesterday that EX-viking defensive back Jeff Gladney was killed in a car accident over the weekend.
he got cut by the Vikings after some legal issues in Texas, was found not guilty and signed with the Cardinals!!!!
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WCCO had a little pc on it this AM too.
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I haven't heard any other details about the wreck. Apparently someone else also died in the crash.
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so....i'm reading on MSN that DeDe Westbrook is visiting/working out with the Vikings today. i thought he already was on there roster??????
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You're doing better than me, I thought he was a basketball player.
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I did too Glenn.
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with a name Dede, not going to say it...
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I haven't heard any other details about the wreck. Apparently someone else also died in the crash.
Tragic.
The fatal crash happened around 2:30 a.m. in the westbound services lanes of Woodall Rogers Freeway at Allen Street, according to the Dallas County Sheriff’s Office.
A teammate told WFAA that 25-year-old Gladney was one of two victims in the crash. The second victim was identified as 26-year-old Andrea Mercedes Palacios.
The sheriff's department said the cause of the crash remains under investigation but added that the victims' vehicle was reportedly speeding, clipped a car from behind, lost control and caught fire after crashing.
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Seen where a teammate said that he was with his girlfriend & that she was the same person that was part of his legal problems. :scratch:
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Sad when these lives end so young.
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say it aint so????? read this morning that the Vikings are talking with this D. Suh??? never thought i'd see the day he'd play here???? :crazy: :crazy:
didnt he play for detroit at one time?????? he was a very hated, dirty football player!!!!!!
there was also a bit on there new #1 draft pick.....Cines.......sounds like he's another Harrison Smith!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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Yes Suh steps on people hands, pokes in eyes, anything he can. Maybe he has mellowed. He had been around for awhile now so let's hope so.
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Ndamukong Suh's timeline of dirty plays: Infamous NFL heel has repaired reputation with Buccaneers (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/ndamukong-suh-dirty-plays-buccaneers/ihhplz7h8k0o1iozgcjholgoh#:~:text=Ndamukong%20Suh%20has%20been%20one,the%20NFL%20by%20his%20peers.)
2019 & 2020: Relatively calm seasons with Buccaneers
Suh signed with the Buccaneers ahead of the 2019 season and re-signed for the 2020 season. He's been one of the most consistent defensive players for Tampa Bay on unexpectedly strong defensive units.
Suh's high-penalty ways have mostly disappeared, with only five flags thrown on him in 2019. He had 6.0 sacks in 2020, the most Suh recorded in a season since 2015.
Big question is, does he have anything left in the tank and would he fit in? :confused:
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A boy named Suh. :doah:
Yep drafted by Detroit, he played college at Nebraska when they had a D1 program.
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The 49ers said that Garapallo can seek a trade. He is coming off shoulder surgery on his throwing arm. He has twice as many wins as losses compared to Cousins 50/50 record. We have an opening on the team and I would love to see Jimmy here although it probably won't happen.
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Purple and gold fan here! Cant wait for the season to kick off!
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Good to hear ramone, ya got something going for ya! :happy1:
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:confused:
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that was a compliment Ramone
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I don't think the QB is the problem. The defense needs to inprove A LOT.
21st in Touchdowns Allowed
22nd in Passing TDs Allowed
24th in Points Allowed
25th in Rushing Defense DVOA
25th in Yards per Pass Alowed
25th in 2nd Hallf Points Allowed
26th in Yards per Play
26th in Rushing Yards Allowed
26th in Defensive Penalties
26th in Defensive Penalty Yards
28th in Passing Yards Allowed
29th in Yards per Rush Allowed
30th in Yards Allowed
30th in First Downs Allowed
And the absolute worst 2 minute defense!!!
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that was a compliment Ramone
:happy1: :happy1: yes it was!!!!!!!!!! we are a pretty fiesty group of Vikings fans......but there are a couple oddballs now and then!!!!!! :rotflmao:
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I don't think the QB is the problem. The defense needs to inprove A LOT.
21st in Touchdowns Allowed
22nd in Passing TDs Allowed
24th in Points Allowed
25th in Rushing Defense DVOA
25th in Yards per Pass Alowed
25th in 2nd Hallf Points Allowed
26th in Yards per Play
26th in Rushing Yards Allowed
26th in Defensive Penalties
26th in Defensive Penalty Yards
28th in Passing Yards Allowed
29th in Yards per Rush Allowed
30th in Yards Allowed
30th in First Downs Allowed
And the absolute worst 2 minute defense!!!
That is pretty pathetic.
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But there going to the super bowl this season!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
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But there going to the super bowl this season!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
right on!!! :rotflmao: :happy1:
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But there going to the super bowl this season!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
Yes, for two teams with well run organizations the catch a little luck along the way. :pouty:
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But there going to the super bowl this season!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
You are correct! :bow: Tickets have been purchased for section 213, Vikings organization bought the whole section. Players have the first option followed by coaches. ;) :rotflmao:
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But there going to the super bowl this season!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
You are correct! :bow: Tickets have been purchased for section 213, Vikings organization bought the whole section. Players have the first option followed by coaches. ;) :rotflmao:
WWMTD? (What would Mike Tice do?) :confused:
:rotflmao: :bonk:
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He may sell a few that he didn't need. No big deal.
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No worries here!
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But there going to the super bowl this season!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
right on!!! :rotflmao: :happy1:
well. i'll admit i am pretty interested with how the season will go with the changes made!!!!!!!!
hell.........i might even like cousins this year!!!!!!!! :smoking: :rotflmao:
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Yeah, it will be fun to see if Cousins performs at a higher level for a coach who doesn't hate him. (Recall that they finally started watching film together last seasons for the first time to try and get on the same page.)
Or will we find out that Cousins is who we thought he is... a .500 lifetime QB can put up good numbers from time to time but doesn't lead his team to victories.
Still, the biggest indictment against the Zimmer era is what Ken noted below: Zim - the defensive "Guru" - had the one of the worst defenses two years running.
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Cousins leaves practice early and goes home sick. Better dump Mond and Mannion and find a real backup QB. I had hoped Mond would develop but doesn't sound good from what I have read.
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Kyle Sloter is available.
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Kyle Sloter is available.
so is Brent Farve........Warren Moon.......and a few others!!!!! :sleazy: :evil: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Kyle Sloter is available.
so is Brent Farve........Warren Moon.......and a few others!!!!! :sleazy: :evil: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Jeff George.
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Kyle Sloter is available.
The Jaguars re-signed E.J. Perry, the quarterback they originally cut to sign Sloter, with the available roster spot. Perry joins C.J. Beathard and Jake Luton below starter Trevor Lawrence on the depth chart.
Sloter couldn't beat out E.J. Perry, C.J. Beathard, and Jake Luton for a spot on the Jaguars roster? :confused:
Um... :scratch: Sloter to the Vikings? :doah: No thanks.
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They did confirm that Cousins has covid again. He will not be with the team on Sunday.
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They did confirm that Cousins has covid again. He will not be with the team on Sunday.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Why do I find that so hilarious? :confused:
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I know, it just is isn't it?? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: We better get Garafalo or someone with some moxy or we are going to be toast if Cousins goes down. Very curious to see our preseason games with our backups. As much as I hoped Mond would pan out, it isn't looking good. Mannion is a big NO as an option. Garafolo has won twice as many games as he has lost and has won playoff games. Just thinking out loud. LOLOL
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hey dutchy.......you buddy Paul Allen is calling the game on the #9. :evil: :evil: :rotflmao:
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I know, it just is isn't it?? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: We better get Garafalo or someone with some moxy or we are going to be toast if Cousins goes down. Very curious to see our preseason games with our backups. As much as I hoped Mond would pan out, it isn't looking good. Mannion is a big NO as an option. Garafolo has won twice as many games as he has lost and has won playoff games. Just thinking out loud. LOLOL
They are going to want everything BUT the kitchen sink for Jimmy G & he is damaged goods. How many games has he actually started for SF the last 3-4 years? Regular season...........50-60%, maybe. Not worth 2 #1's, a couple # 2's & 2-3 later round picks IMO. :tut:
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hey dutchy.......you buddy Paul Allen is calling the game on the #9. :evil: :evil: :rotflmao:
I can't put into words my thoughts on that. :puke:
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hey dutchy.......you buddy Paul Allen is calling the game on the #9. :evil: :evil: :rotflmao:
I can't put into words my thoughts on that. :puke:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Mond looks way better then Mannion does at this point!!!!
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Yes he sure does. Most of us could have done as good as Mannion. Mond looks like he is coming around pretty good. They need to dump Mannion to make room for another player.
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I only seen part of the game as the remote was getting a workout. Did like what I saw from the WR from Ia & the RB from Ia St though. :cool:
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Zim has a new job...
Mike Zimmer lands new job as NFL analyst (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/mike-zimmer-lands-new-job-as-nfl-analyst)
Mike Zimmer has a new job and it's not what you'd expect the longtime NFL coach to be doing. The 66-year-old former head coach of the Minnesota Vikings was announced Tuesday as the newest member of The 33rd Team.
Zimmer is listed as an "analyst" on the company website, joining the likes of former NFL coaches Bill Cowher, Bill Parcels, Marvin Lewis, Wade Phillips and others.
Ex-Vikings GM Rick Spielman is also an analyst. So is Brett Favre.
He will be contributing content/analysis for The33rdTeam.com.
Don't ask me who The33rdTeam.com is. :confused: Looks like they hire a bunch of old NFL guys on retainer to get quotes from them or something. :scratch:
Or maybe he got that job too because of Parcels' recommendation. :rotflmao:
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okkkk :scratch:
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I wondered what the 33 thing was too. ???
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https://www.the33rdteam.com/ (https://www.the33rdteam.com/)
Looks like a way for ex-NFL players and coaches to express their thoughts and get paid for them instead of giving them away on Twitter or to sports/news interviews for free.
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Anyone see if the Vikings cut any players yet?
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Anyone see if the Vikings cut any players yet?
Not yet. They still have time until the deadline.
Roster cutdown dates follow each week of the preseason and are listed below:
Aug. 16: By 4:00 p.m. ET teams must reduce their active rosters to 85 players.
Aug. 23: By 4:00 p.m. ET teams must reduce their active rosters to 80 players.
Aug. 30: By 4:00 p.m. ET teams must reduce their active rosters to 53 players.
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I don't think they will cut your Cousin Kirk until after August 23 at the earliest.
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I don't think they will cut your Cousin Kirk until after August 23 at the earliest.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: I was thinking Mannion.
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Zim has a new job...
Mike Zimmer lands new job as NFL analyst (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/mike-zimmer-lands-new-job-as-nfl-analyst)
But wait.... there's more!
Mike Zimmer lands on his feet (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/mike-zimmer-lands-on-his-feet/ar-AA10K3V7?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=24ae2aeee2f34456bb189310f9b69096)
Zimmer will be going to work for coach Deion Sanders at Jackson State University, where HBCU Gameday is reporting that he’s accepted a job as an analyst on Sanders’ staff.
Sanders has made a big splash in the world of college football since taking over on the Jackson State sidelines before the 2021 season.
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Anyone see if the Vikings cut any players yet?
Vikings Announce 1st Wave of 2022 Roster Reductions (https://www.vikings.com/news/jake-bargas-andre-mintz-tyarise-stevenson-roster-cuts) :coffee:
Waived: FB Jake Bargas, OLB Andre Mintze
Waived/Injured: DL Tyarise Stevenson, WR Thomas Hennigan
Contract Terminated/Vested Vet: CB Tye Smith
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I just heard that the Vikes just acquired Jake Mullins from the Raiders. He was also with the 49ers and played backup to Garappalo so he got to play quite a bit when Jimmy was injured. I think this is his 5th year and has a 60 something passing percentage. We gave a 7th round pick for him.
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https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/report-vikings-trade-with-raiders-for-quarterback-nick-mullens
just read it too...
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I heard PA talking about that just now, too, but didn't have enough time in the car to listen to all his takes.
What a great deal for the Vikes. They only have to give up a "7" and the get a bona fide back-up QB.
Spielman got lucky with Kapt. Kirk's durability. And it looks like he wiffed on his attempt to draft Mond as a backup/future replacement for KK.
Sooner or later Kirk is going to miss some games and we're going to need a competent backup QB. Like KFAN's Dan Berriero points out... The Vikings two best seasons in recent memory came about with the backup QB at the helm.
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Now taking bets to see who they cut on Aug 30: Kellen Mond or Sean Mannion. :popcorn:
A lot of teams like to only carry two quarterbacks on the active roster and try to squirrel-away a third on the practice squad.
Going into this preseason - many figured Mond would need to make the active squad or someone would claim him from the practice squad. :doah: After the first two pre-season games, I wonder if that is still a concern. :scratch:
I'm bettin' they let Mannion go and take their chances with Mond on the practice squad.
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If they decide Mullins is their backup, they will release Mannion. Might as well keep the younger draft choice. Might not keep either one of them if they decide to go with Kirk and Mullins.
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They better let Mannion. Kirk can still pay him to hold the clip board for him without him being on the roster.
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So the Raiders new braintrust (Former Patriots) determined that a 7th round pick was better than outright releasing him. I have to think if the kid could play at all he would be worth more than a 7th.
Maybe i'm a bit cynical that this is any kind of deal that will improve anything.
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Yeah, they could have waited for cut day to try and pick up Mullins, but then some other team could have got him to.
And if the Raiders were willing to get rid of him, he clearly isn't a number 2.
Still, a "7" in 2024 isn't much to give up and on Mullins has more experience as a starter than Mannion and Mond, who are both still stinking it up.
CBS Sports graded the trade as a C+ for Raiders to get anything for a guy they would have cut anyway and a B for the Vikes for upgrading their backup QB - at least on paper.
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Who cares if we trade away a 7th round pick? That is like free or no pick at all. I think it is a positive thing and I hope he plays this last week of preseason. The coaches are familiar with him it sounds like so that must mean something. I was really hoping Mond would excel to make Zim eat his words but that hasn't happened yet. GO Mullen!
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Anybody hear any snipets about the Vikings maybe shopping Mattson around????
Think he's on his last year of his contract and might wanna look for a place to start??
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I heard that too.
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Mond & Mannion should get together and do whatever is necessary to keep Mullens from competing.
They can hide his uniform & equipment. Pay the O-linemen to miss key blocks. Lock him in the building when they go out to practice.
Dude is coming for their jobs. They gotta protect their turf.
:cool: :cool: :cool:
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Mond & Mannion should get together and do whatever is necessary to keep Mullens from competing.
They can hide his uniform & equipment. Pay the O-linemen to miss key blocks. Lock him in the building when they go out to practice.
Dude is coming for their jobs. They gotta protect their turf.
:cool: :cool: :cool:
Maybe they should have played better last week when they scrimmaged with and played the 49ers. :scratch:
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I didn’t see the whole game, but from a QB standpoint, it was a real snoozer. There may be some hope for Mond with a lot of work and a lot of time, but I think Mannion needs to find a new profession—except he’s paid pretty well for a guy who doesn’t really have much responsibilities. Hope Mullins works out. Not a Cousins fan, overall, but he’s the best we’ve got.
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Yesterday afternoon I was just going to take my nap and here the game was on Bally so I watched some of it. After we scored a TD it got boring knowing we wouldn't score again so the nap did happen.
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... After we scored a TD it got boring knowing we wouldn't score again ...
Sounds like just about every regular season game last year. :doah: :bonk:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Vikings will be lucky if they win half their games this season.
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Lot of folks project more than that.
The defense has to be better - it couldn't be much worse.
And with Jefferson continuing to improve, getting our tight end back, and having a head coach who doesn't hate the QB and kicker - this should lead to an improved offense as well.
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I agree and think that just having a coach with a good attitude will make a difference. I predict 11 wins.
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Purple kool-aid drinkers go through the same cycle every year. The Vikes are always great.....until they start playing. Lol
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Oh come on Roony, drink some cool aid with me. LOL
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On sale in the Cub clearance isle.... :rotflmao:
(https://i.redd.it/6k0u26hs71a01.png)
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Love it but I am waiting for the updated version. :sleazy:
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I’m hoping for 5 wins. New coaching staff, new offense, new defense.
It usually takes a couple years.
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Vikings will be lucky if they win half their games this season.
I've looked through their entire schedule twice and I can't find a loss on it :happy1:
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I’m hoping for 5 wins. New coaching staff, new offense, new defense...
AND the 3rd pick in next year's draft! :happy1:
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:scratch: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/3-surprise-cuts-the-vikings-could-make-by-week-1/ar-AA111iMZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=869f2b626 :confused:
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Interesting. Cutting from 80 to 53 has to be a tough thing to do.
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:scratch: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/3-surprise-cuts-the-vikings-could-make-by-week-1/ar-AA111iMZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=869f2b626 :confused:
Cutting Mattison would not surprise me. Running backs are not highly valued and "easily" replaced.
Cutting Mond would be a little surprise me a little. He seems to have more "upside" than Mannion, but if Mond don't get it, maybe he ain't got it. I'm still thinkin' Mannion is gone.
Cutting Davis would be a surprise. If one guard goes out with injury, another gets dinged up, and a third one underperforms in games, suddenly Davis is more important. I think this offensive-minded regime knows the importance of building a strong, deep offensive line.
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The label "offensive-minded regime" might be a little early. We have seen zero evidence that the offense will shine. To this point he is a unproven coach much like Minnesota has seen before in Steckle, Brewster & Fleck. All can talk a good game.
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The label "offensive-minded regime" might be a little early.
Touche. :swords:
I think most of us are speculating that O'Connell will have a less conservative, more creative offense than Zim did.
How many offensive coordinators did Zimmer go through because they didn't do it the Zim way?
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I want to see it (offense) rather than hear about it. If they can't find a way to make Cook, Jefferson, Theilen all equal parts then they are done.
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I want to see it (offense) rather than hear about it. If they can't find a way to make Cook, Jefferson, Theilen all equal parts then they are done.
Don't forget about Irv Smith at TE coming back from injury, who was projected to have a break-out offensive season last year before he got hurt.
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Interesting 3 choices in that article.....
I think Davis stays......Mond stays and Mannion will go......Mattison is a surprise, Chandler has played well. He is also cheaper than Mattison and has more years left on his rookie contract.
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:scratch: Another interesting spin on what the Opening Day roster might look like & why. https://vikingsterritory.com/2022/top_news/mitch-massmans-vikings-53-man-prediction
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Looking forward to Sat. game. I will record it too since it is so late.
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Was watching the Twins game, it went to a rain delay. They switched to the Braves vs Cardinals. Cards walked them off in the 9th 6-5.
So, then I figure WTH I'll check out the Vikings. I have one question............how in the world can you guys listen to that clown Paul Allen? He is getting worse every year. About one series and I switched the channel. If he did every Viking game on TV I would never see another Viking game ever.
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So .... Paul Allen is to you as Kapt Kirk is to me!!! :sleazy: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Gawd I can't watch no more. Sheez! :pouty:
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The starters better stay healthy, because the backups look pretty pathetic.
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I watched 5-6 plays the whole pre-season & that was enough for me.:rolleyes: :doah: :sad:
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I have always concluded the worse they look in the preseason the better they do in the regular season. We will see if my theory is correct. :rotflmao:
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I have always concluded the worse they look in the preseason the better they do in the regular season. We will see if my theory is correct. :rotflmao:
i hope your right!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao: other wise i dont see a win on the whole schedule.......of course if we had a QB!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :evil: :rotflmao:
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I have always concluded the worse they look in the preseason the better they do in the regular season. We will see if my theory is correct. :rotflmao:
It should be a great year then. LOL
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I would much rather have watched the Twins win in xtra innings. But Fox here switched from the Twins to the Vikings. They need to end preseason games. No starters in any of them. They are better off just having 2 teams scrimmage for a couple days. Why would anyone pay a premium price to watch that stuff????? :confused: :confused: :confused:
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If it wasn't on for free I wouldn't watch them. Pretty anti climatic.
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I would much rather have watched the Twins win in xtra innings. But Fox here switched from the Twins to the Vikings. They need to end preseason games. No starters in any of them. They are better off just having 2 teams scrimmage for a couple days. Why would anyone pay a premium price to watch that stuff????? :confused: :confused: :confused:
You missed nothing by not watching the 10th inning of the Twins. Per the little league rules that MLB likes the Twins started with a runner on second, I think he moved to third on a wild pitch or passed ball, next batter walked, runners on 1st & 3rd. Walked Kepler and Celestino. Ball game. Not a base hit in the inning.
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I missed the walk off celebration at home. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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Gordon sacrificed to get Hamilton to 3rd, Urshela walked, then they intentionally walked Kepler to get to Celestino & set up a potential double play. Kepler already had 2 hits yday & did so again today. :happy1: :cool:
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Fun game to watch.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-lose-bisi-johnson-for-season-with-torn-acl/ar-AA11ca9J :pouty: Same issue, other leg last season. :doah:
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What a bummer for Bisi.
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Here's who the Vikings have cut ahead of Tuesday deadline (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/heres-who-the-vikings-have-cut-ahead-of-tuesday-deadline)
DT TY McGill
After becoming one of the ‘breakout stars’ of the first two preseason games with 3.5 sacks, T.Y. McGill injured his ankle early in the final preseason game this last Saturday. He's spent time with nine teams since entering the league in 2015.
WR Myron Mitchell
Wide Receiver Myron Mitchell made 5 catches for 55 yards this preseason for the Vikings before his reported cut. He spent last season on the Vikings practice squad after going undrafted in 2021 out of UAB.
CB Tye Smith
Cornerback Tye Smith spent time last year on the Vikings practice squad. Smith was among five players in the first round of cuts back on August 16 but was brought back last Thursday after the Vikings cut punter Jordan Berry.
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Going from 80 to 53 is one heck of a cut. That is a lot of guys.
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but it think they can put guys on the practice squad from them cutsto get down to 53!!!!!!!!1
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Football is a brutal game in more ways than one. Cuts are ruthless - whether you're a young guy trying to make the team for the first year or a veteran trying to hang on for one more season.
You bust your butt and put your body on the line for a chance to make it, and for so many its "close, but no cigar."
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I wonder what the deal is with McGill. When he was on the field in the first two games, he looked like an opponent’s nightmare. Either the ankle is a big problem or they saw something else. Maybe the return of Hunter or the presence of Smith makes him expendable.
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Nine teams in 8 years kind of implies he always has been a bubble guy.
Give him credit for hanging around. :happy1:
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Nine teams in 8 years kind of implies he always has been a bubble guy.
Give him credit for hanging around. :happy1:
Yeah, I wondered about that. Some people just can’t hold a job.
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I think they are considering that this is an older experienced guy going against bottom drafted and non drafted rookies.
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Here's who the Vikings have cut ahead of Tuesday deadline (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/heres-who-the-vikings-have-cut-ahead-of-tuesday-deadline)
DT TY McGill
After becoming one of the ‘breakout stars’ of the first two preseason games with 3.5 sacks, T.Y. McGill injured his ankle early in the final preseason game this last Saturday. He's spent time with nine teams since entering the league in 2015.
WR Myron Mitchell
Wide Receiver Myron Mitchell made 5 catches for 55 yards this preseason for the Vikings before his reported cut. He spent last season on the Vikings practice squad after going undrafted in 2021 out of UAB.
CB Tye Smith
Cornerback Tye Smith spent time last year on the Vikings practice squad. Smith was among five players in the first round of cuts back on August 16 but was brought back last Thursday after the Vikings cut punter Jordan Berry.
Some real household names there!! Get back to me when they dump somebody who has been around longer than the coach. :rotflmao:
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Football is a brutal game in more ways than one. Cuts are ruthless - whether you're a young guy trying to make the team for the first year or a veteran trying to hang on for one more season.
You bust your butt and put your body on the line for a chance to make it, and for so many its "close, but no cigar."
Also the way they are talked about on TV as a terrible player or other names that a mother does not want to hear about her son. They talk about them as if they are horses not people.
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Final cuts need to be done by 3 today.
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Just read a pc that said Mond is out, unless he signs back for the practice squad. :scratch: Find out for sure in ~ 2 hours.
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Think I may have read the same piece. Also read that TB is releasing former gopher wide receiver Tyler Johnson.
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Sounds like there finally parting ways with Mannion to
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Good to hear, Mond and Mannion could make good water boys somewhere..
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Sounds like there finally parting ways with Mannion to
:scratch: Heard that he maybe re-signing for the practice squad, so he might not be totally out of the picture.........................yet. :rolleyes:
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Mond is on his way to the Browns and Mannion is heading to Seattle where he was for a few months last year. ??? They also just acquired from the Eagles, they guy picked right before J Jefferson in the draft. He is also a WR. Does not have near the stats as Jefferson though. For a 7th and a 4th round draft pick.
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The Vikings could always sign 2 martini, er 2 minute Tommy Kramer as the 3rd string QB.
Heck he could put capt kirk on the bench. :sleazy: :rotflmao:
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Those Tommy days were great weren't they? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Mond is on his way to the Browns and Mannion is heading to Seattle where he was for a few months last year. ??? They also just acquired from the Eagles, they guy picked right before J Jefferson in the draft. He is also a WR. Does not have near the stats as Jefferson though. For a 7th and a 4th round draft pick.
He's expected to be the #5 WR, but the #1 punt returner.https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-trade-two-draft-picks-to-eagles-for-wr-jalen-reagor/ar-AA11ktVg
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Someday I'd like to see a coffee table book of all the should'a-could'a-would'a's from each professional sports team - all their mistakes and missed opportunities.
All the teams that didn't draft Michael Jordan when they had the chance.
The Timberwolves not drafting Steph Curry because they already had a point guard (who was that again? :confused:) Oh yeah. They had the #5 pick and drafted youngster point guard Ricky Rubio who played a few more years in Spain. They had the #6 pick and picked point guard Jonny Flynn. And Curry was taken with pick #7. :doah:
All sports teams make huge blunders and the Eagles not taking Jefferson was a big miss.
The 2024 4th round pick the Vikes traded to the Eagles for Reagor is conditional. If he doesn't pan out, they probably won't have to offer it. No idea of how well he has to perform. And by 2024 we'll mostly have forgotten about all of this.
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Vikings missed on Treadwell. So far they have missed on the center. They kinda missed on the pot smoking wide receiver a few years ago. They hit on Moss when many passed on him. The running back they have now has done well.
Speilman was a miss. Zimmer was a miss if you consider Tice a miss. Steckel of course was a miss.
It really doesn't matter I guess. They will have a average season (for them) the fantasy & gambling guys will be happy.
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I'm kinda pumped on watching this year, especially the defense. They keep saying Kirk will be more aggressive on passing downs but they can write whatever they like, so we'll see. Still, I'll tune in..
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Here is some of what the Packer's Press had to say after the game... :popcorn:
Game recap: 5 takeaways from Packers' opening loss to Vikings (https://www.packers.com/news/game-recap-5-takeaways-from-packers-opening-loss-to-vikings)
Plenty of regrets all around for Green Bay
3. The Packers know it should've been a different game.
Green Bay thought it had answered Minnesota's opening-drive TD on the Packers' first offensive play, but rookie receiver Christian Watson dropped a deep ball for what should've been a 75-yard touchdown.
Later in the first half, running back AJ Dillon got stuffed on a fourth-and-goal from the 1-yard line when the Packers were looking to tie the score at 7.
Those failures were absolutely haunting as the game wore on.
"We had a lot of chances today, not taking anything away from their defense, but we hurt ourselves many times, myself included," quarterback Aaron Rodgers said. "We had a lot of opportunities to score more than seven."
Everyone was fired up about dialing up the deep shot early to showcase the speed of Watson, the second-round pick from North Dakota State. He ran a great route and got well behind the defense, but "he just has to finish the play," LaFleur said.
On the fourth-and-goal, while LaFleur wishes he would've called another play he was thinking about, Rodgers was kicking himself for not improvising. It wasn't part of the run-pass option design, but he believed if he'd pulled the ball back and not handed it off to Dillon, he would've "walked in" for a touchdown on his own.
Instead, Smith crashed down from the outside unblocked and helped hold up Dillon.
"Just trust it," Rodgers lamented.
"I don't really like playing those what-if games, but games usually do come down to a few plays here and there … 14 points and we'd have been right in it."
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Fun to make them squirm. I see the Eagles are favored by 2 in our next game a week from today.
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Fun to make them squirm. I see the Eagles are favored by 2 in our next game a week from today.
I watched a few of the highlights from the Eagles/Lions game. Hurts made some good throws, but his rushing was very good.
The Vikings have always struggled with a QB that can scramble/rush for 1st downs. They better have a good defensive game plan next week.
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Everyone can play the "What If Game."
Vikes only had 2 field goals in second half. "What If" they hadn't been ahead
17-0 at half time. They played conservatively and ran the clock. Could they have scored 2 touchdowns instead? Yeah...."What If"
Everything else is just conversation. Like the Packers’ secondary.
Laughable how many times they lost Jefferson in coverage. It was like the Secret Service leaving POTUS behind in a fast-food bathroom.
No real surprise the Vikings were able to move the ball. It was not like O’Connell and Co. inherited the Twins’ bullpen. Cousins, Jefferson, Adam Thielen and Dalvin Cook can wreak havoc any given Sunday.
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LOLOL Good one Ken.
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Yeah, good ones!! :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Everyone can play the "What If Game."
(https://i.imgflip.com/2p4h7t.jpg)
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:rotflmao:
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Glenn that is the creepiest thing I have seen in a long time. Pretty darn good too! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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We better enjoy this while we can. Just sayin...
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We better enjoy this while we can. Just sayin...
oh I am. Sent it to several cheese heads already. :sleazy: :nerd: :nerd:
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Looks to me Glenn is finally a Cap'n Kirk fan!! ;)
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:rotflmao: :happy1: well this week maybe!! :smoking: :rolleyes: :rotflmao:
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I see the Eagles are still favored by 2.5.
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I see the Eagles are still favored by 2.5.
Good bulletin board material for the Boys in Purple.
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Home field has always been worth 3 points. So figuring that way the Eagles are a 1/2 point dog at home.
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Good way to look at it Dutch. They suck! LOL
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:pouty: Vikings are stinking it up per usual on Monday night. Sheez :doah: :censored:
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New regimen, same old looking team.
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Quirk looked scared crapless playing in the hood. I started watching food shows and checking back with the Vikes it was so bad. The announcers were baffled that they never changed the defense even though we were getting picked apart the whole game. Same ol crap. To old of D coach.
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New regimen, same old looking team.
Ain't that the truth. One good game, feelin' fat and happy, go out next game and get their :moon: kicked.
(https://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxMy01MWFiY2NhY2RmNjM5MTk0.png)
Quirk looked scared crapless playing in the hood.
Right on, LPS. Kapt. Kirk is who we thought he is. He did have a couple of down-field throws dropped, but most of the night he was Check Down Charlie. It was like having Christian Ponder all over again.
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Maybe philly will trade us thier QB, would hurt to ask.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Maybe philly will trade us thier QB, would hurt to ask.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: i watched Hurts play alot in college, he played for Bama i believe then this QB for the dolphins took over as starter so Hurts went to Oklahoma. the guy can run, but back in college he couldnt throw worth a damn. he's definitely improved there!!!!!!
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What happened to all the purple kool aid?
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Football is an emotional game. Teams build and prepare all week and let it all out on gameday.
Last week the Vikings wanted it more than the Pac. This week the Eagles wanted it more than the Vikes.
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Is thia rigjlht 830 AM GAME
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yup cause they playing in England
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Goona have to set the alarm so I can get an early start. ;) :toast: :tequila; :drinking:
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Mayhaps a bloody mary game. :sleazy:
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Against New Orleans.
With the hurricane hitting Tampa, The Bucks probably can't play The Chiefs there on Sunday night. Will then be moved to the Midwest. Probably Minneapolis.
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Injury report... :Photography:
Vikings Head Coach Kevin O'Connell said Monday that running back Dalvin Cook is "day-to-day" but safety Harrison Smith has cleared concussion protocols and cornerback Andrew Booth, Jr., could return to practice this week.
"Cook's pretty sore today, but obviously something he's familiar with. He's tough, he's ready to try to get back out there and go, but we'll take it day-to-day," O'Connell said.
"Harrison will be, we think, pretty much ready to go," O'Connell said. "He's kind of cleared the protocols. We'll kind of limit his contact early on in the week, but the expectation is that Harry will be able to go in London."
Kinda cleared the protocols? :confused: Nothing wrong with wishful thinking, I guess.
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Will Captain Kirk be NFC player of the week?
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Will Captain Kirk be NFC player of the week?
If so... musta been a slow week. :rotflmao:
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Blind squirrel finds a nut once on a while.
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Will Captain Kirk be NFC player of the week?
Doubtful, way to much attention between Sharron Rodgers and Brady's game.
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:scratch: They better do something different for their 1st half pass defense as I think the last couple games Goff & Hurts have completed pretty close to 35 of their 1st 40 passes combined. :doah:
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The Vikes are favored by 2.5 in Vegas so far.
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Will Captain Kirk be NFC player of the week?
Doubtful, way to much attention between Sharron Rodgers and Brady's game.
Will Captain Kirk be NFC player of the week?
If so... musta been a slow week. :rotflmao:
Slow week indeed! Who'da ever thunk this... :confused:
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LOL Good for Cordarrelle, I actually like him. Just a good guy that can run like heck but can't remember routes. SO word on the street is that Winston has a bad back so Andy Dalton will be starting for him. Michael Thomas didn't report for practice neither.
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Saints injury list is getting bigger I guess. Kamara has bad ribs but my play.
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Looks like Cook is back for the Vikes.
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Eagles' Darius Slay reveals how he was able to shut down Justin Jefferson (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/darius-slay-reveals-how-he-was-able-to-shut-down-justin-jefferson-says-skys-the-limit-for-eagles-wr-group/) :scratch:
"When you're a young and talented guy, man, you think everything works. I've played this game so long -- I know what you're gonna do. I know your tendencies, I know what you like the most," Slay said. "He had a lot of tales for me to steal on film. Young guys don't see, but I see that because I like to watch film a lot. Every tale I did was truthful.
"The first pass breakup I had, it made me confirm that's what he does. That early? It's gonna be a long night for anybody. No matter what type of talent you have or how much better you feel like you are than me, that means I really got your tale on what you do.
"What I watched on film and what I watch how his release is ... that's why I made the plays I did." :doah:
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Man talk about stressful. That was a lot of mental work to get through that.
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Could very easily have lost. :pouty: :pouty:
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they were darn lucky on that last field goal
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:thumbs: No NFL Network here!!! :pouty:
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We were able to stream it on Dish Network. You didn’t miss a good performance, Gunner. Defense needs work, and the offense certainly didn’t play up to expectations. It was good to see Thielen get some action, though. He was neglected in the last couple games.
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We were able to stream it on Dish Network. You didn’t miss a good performance, Gunner. Defense needs work, and the offense certainly didn’t play up to expectations. It was good to see Thielen get some action, though. He was neglected in the last couple games.
I see Dish and ESPN are arguing over money now! :confused: no Monday night football for me!! :confused: :pouty:
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Why dont yu read? Increase your intellegence.....wait....a rock absorbs nuthing...
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Vikings provide positive update on gruesome Lewis Cine injury (https://thevikingage.com/2022/10/02/minnesota-vikings-update-lewis-cine-injury/)
"According to Minnesota head coach Kevin O’Connell on Sunday, Cine suffered a “significant fractured ankle” against New Orleans."
That's bad enough. I was afraid it was way worse.
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We were able to stream it on Dish Network. You didn’t miss a good performance, Gunner. Defense needs work, and the offense certainly didn’t play up to expectations. It was good to see Thielen get some action, though. He was neglected in the last couple games.
I see Dish and ESPN are arguing over money now! :confused: no Monday night football for me!! :confused: :pouty:
I quit Dish when they refused to carry the Fox Sports North channel.....now Bally Sports.
Couldn't watch the Twins, Wild, Timberwolves etc for almost a year until the stupid contract ran out, I changed the next day.
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Guess we got ESPN today.
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I dropped Dish too when Bally bought FSN. Went to the local cable company that had it. I told them if you get me hooked up by the weekend I will switch. They were here on Friday.
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Minnesota Vikings Update on Lewis Cine (https://www.vikings.com/news/lewis-cine-injury-update)
Lewis Cine underwent successful surgery today to repair the compound fracture he suffered during Sunday's game. The surgery was performed by Dr. Aswinkumar (Ash) Vasireddy, the Orthopedic Trauma Group Lead Surgeon at Cleveland Clinic London.
Lewis will remain in London to continue his initial recovery process before returning to Minnesota at the appropriate time. A member of the Vikings medical staff will also stay in London until Lewis returns. Head Coach Kevin O'Connell and members of the Vikings organization have been in constant communication with Lewis, who is in great spirits.
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Yesterday when Wright muffed that kick the whole game turned around. Luckily we turned it around.
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Dantzler not quitting on the play & getting up to rip the ball away from Marsette after he had been beat was the play of the game IMO. :happy1: :cool:
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Wright will come back strong and yes I really like Dantzler. He is a young tough guy. Like a junior Harrison Smith.
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I was listening to Vikings FanLine on KFAN after the game.
Fans were ripping on the defense - especially the secondary - for giving up so many easy passing yards against supposedly "below average" quarterbacks. Ron Johnson was defending they players individually when the fans ripped them, but they are going to play more than "shell coverage" if they expect to sustain the success so far.
Yeah, Dantzler is giving 110%. That is what effort looks like when you don't spend all week in the doghouse. You see guys banging and ripping and tearing at the ball all the time on tackles, but you rarely see take-aways like that one. As P.A. would say: Well done, young man! Well done!
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A key part of that play was that Dantzler got stiff-armed to the ground, got up, chased him down, and made the play.
Why are are runningback/receiver siff-arms even legal? :confused:
If a lineman does it, its Illegal Hands to the Face. :scratch:
If a defensive player does it, its called Facemask. :doah:
And is someone touches the quarterback's helmet, its called Roughing the Passer. :puke:
So how come the runner can punch or push a defender in face and its legal? :confused:
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I have always wondered that. Pretty close to the same thing. If a running back using a stiff arm closes his hand on it I suppose it would be a facemask. But yes how can that be safe to wack a guy in his facemask be a safe thing to do. What about whiplash and things like that. It seems like a too the helmet hit type of thing to me.
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Ask the Official: Why ball carriers can use their hands in ways others can’t (https://blogs.usafootball.com/blog/2621/ask-the-official-why-ball-carriers-can-use-their-hands-in-ways-others-can-t)
Why are running backs and receivers allowed to stiff arm defenders with their hands to the facemask and it not be flagged as such, yet lineman get called for it all the time? It is what it is: hands to the face.
Any player possessing the football – a runner or receiver after a catch – may use an open hand to ward off a defender trying to make a tackle. The feeling is that a runner is limited in his ability to ward off defenders because his other hand is securing the football.
He may not grab or twist the face mask of the defender, but he may use the open hand against the helmet or face mask.
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I'm not a big fan of the new 2-deep safety/shell coverage D either, but I understand why they play it. First, it's what McVay used a lot of out in LA & 2nd our CBs don't play man coverage that well either. Last but not least, I not certain they've figured out the how to best get pressure on the opposing QB yet. Ten years ago, this D was called a prevent defense & I wasn't a huge fan of it back then neither. :rolleyes:
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Oh yea the prevent defense.... It prevented the team from winning!!🤣
Kinda like having cousins as your QB!! :evil: :rotflmao:
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Ya the prevent defense always seemed like the let them score defense. Never did have confidence in it.
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Always hated the "prevent defense." Never seemed to prevent anything.
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The other thing about 2-deep safety/shell coverage D is... its simple.
I heard an interview of corner Patrick Peterson last night.
Zims defenses were complicated, and if anyone did the wrong thing, or reacted too slowly because of all the pre-snap motion and misdirection and the defense gives up a big play. Dantzler was often Zim's dog house because he didn't always make the right read.
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The other thing about 2-deep safety/shell coverage D is... its simple.
I heard an interview of corner Patrick Peterson last night.
Zims defenses were complicated, and if anyone did the wrong thing, or reacted too slowly because of all the pre-snap motion and misdirection and the defense gives up a big play. Dantzler was often Zim's dog house because he didn't always make the right read.
So was it the master being to smart for the pupil or the pupil being to dumb to implement the scheme? Are we now dumbing it down for the defense?
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I'd get involved in this conversation but I already stirred the pot up enough over on IDO. :evil: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Oh yea the prevent defense.... It prevented the team from winning!!🤣
Kinda like having cousins as your QB!! :evil: :rotflmao:
:pouty: :tut: :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh: I'd get involved in this conversation but I already stirred the pot up enough over on IDO. :evil: :rotflmao:
:shocked: ;) :smiley: :smiley:
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Always hated the "prevent defense." Never seemed to prevent anything.
It did prevent the team from winning more than anything. I always called it prevent the win defense.
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I think it means the current Vikings defense isn't that good and the coaching staff knows it.
Defense Whisperer, Mike Zimmer, had one of the worst defenses two years running - old guys getting hurt and new guys not panning out or picking things up fast enough.
Enter Kevin O. They tried to bolster the defense in the offseason, but those things don't get fixed overnight. His plan appears to be to play a bend-but-don't-break shell defense and give the offense free reign to be dynamic and score as many points as they need.
Zim's problem was he kept on playing "his" defense even though he didn't have the horses to execute it - and they got lit up two years running because of it.
Maybe if this year's defense plays within itself, they will be good enough to be successful as a team.
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Per a conversation they just had on KFAN. Tua probably won't play on Sun against us and Teddy is still in concussion protocol so their third string QB who played when Teddy went out last week will be their starter. 289th pick. :sleazy:
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Trap game for the Vikes? :scratch: How many times in recent memory has the opposing back-up QB lit up the Vikings? :doah:
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Hey HD. Is the MNO jet busy this weekend. I would love to fly to Miami and see the game and the other sites. :sleazy:
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Per a conversation they just had on KFAN. Tua probably won't play on Sun against us and Teddy is still in concussion protocol so their third string QB who played when Teddy went out last week will be their starter. 289th pick. :sleazy:
:scratch: Vikes are still only favored by 3-3.5, they still have a pretty good defense.
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Just read that we haven't won in Miami since 1976.
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bad omen??
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bad omen??
meh there due. I gotz the faith!!🙄 :rolleyes: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: I sure hope #7 & #3 don't spend all game looking at the back of Hill & Waddles jerseys as they are a couple of the fastest WRs in the league. :rolleyes: Smith & Bynum best be on their game too.
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:scratch: I thought Hill was out?
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:scratch: I thought Hill was out?
:scratch: That's not what this says. :confused: https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/injuries/_/name/mia/miami-dolphins
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They have a lot of guys out this week.
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:scratch: I thought Hill was out?
:scratch: That's not what this says. :confused: https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/injuries/_/name/mia/miami-dolphins
could be, it's been a while since I cared to look!!👍
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:scratch: Teddy isn't even on ESPN's list either so..................... :confused:
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Ya what's up with that. I heard they may be doing that to trick us and actually put Teddy in. He plays a good fast game with short throws. That may be bad news for us.
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Tua passed his concussion tests. Let the track meet begin.
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Tua passed his concussion tests. Let the track meet begin.
he's not even dressed will start next week.
Boy this game is starting out like a doozy! :pouty:
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and they say baseball is boring. This isn't 2 good defenses, it's 2 terrible teams.
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Currently the Packers are getting beat 24-10 early 4th quarter, vikes better win this!!🙄
I could have someone score a TD And and extra point , would get me 10 bucks!! :sleazy:
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@$_++&_@#_- :angry2: :confused:
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Turned out to be a great game. Man I was worried the first half. Both offense and defense changed their programs and kicked azz basically.
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There just damn lucky the defense has been getting turnovers at key times late in the game
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Other than the spanking of the Packers in the first game, they have won some bizarre games.
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I thought Jones had a real good game playing for Wonnum & so did our nickel CB Chandler. :happy1: :cool:
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and they say baseball is boring. This isn't 2 good defenses, it's 2 terrible teams.
:tut: :scratch: Vikes D had 6 sacks, 13 QB hits, forced 2 fumbles as well as 2 Ints...............................pretty good game IMO. They had 10 penalties, 5 on 1 possession, & we had 2, it wouldn't have been as close as it was if it wasn't for their defense. :confused:
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Yup great game. Weird but great.
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Yup great game. Weird but great.
:huh: The best play we had in the 1st quarter was a 73-yard punt. :doah: What's so strange about that? :scratch: :confused: ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
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It proves why they got rid of Teddy, totaly is not a high caliber QB. A good enough back upntho.
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Teddy was on the way up before he broke his leg. Zim seemed to like him anyway - for whatever that was worth. :confused: :rotflmao:
Sometimes you are never the same after something like that and the Vikings were not willing to take a chance on him with a big contract.
Maybe that was the beginning of the Zim-Spielman schism. Maybe Zim wanted Teddy, but Spielman didn't trust the leg.
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Teddy never was a franchise type quarterback like the Vikings tried to sell us. He can't throw well enough. Leg or no leg he wasn't top notch. However he will play a lot of years and make a lot of money.
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I wonder how many NFL player's careers succeed or fail simply because they are on the right team at the right time or the wrong team at the wrong time.
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Exactly. AND how many guys that would have turned into great players don't even get a decent chance?
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:tut: i see where a vikings player was arrested again!!!!!!!!!!1 :confused: :doah: apparently he was talking to a woman and he walked into the female bathroom and wouldnt leave..... :doofus: what an idiot!!!!!!!!
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It was Uda. He will probably get cut today.
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There will be 73000 mullet at the Vikings game on Sunday, for Jared Allen’s induction. Should be funny!
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been seeing the Vikings are inquiring about trading for Chaase Claypool, a wide reciever from pittsburgh. personally i think they should look for a DB????? but i'm just an armchair GM!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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When did WR become a problem for the Vikings?
The report / rumor was likely started by somebody like Paul Allen to fill time on his terrible radio show. Or maybe even the children on the Morning Show on KFAN.
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Thielen seems to have slowed down some. I wonder if he is hurt a little or if age is catching up with him. Great guy though so hope all is well with him.
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The garbage I have read is except for Jefferson the wide receivers group isn't explosive enough.
Like cousin's could hit them anyway!! :evil: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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He hasn't had a lot of options....
Jefferson is the only real deep threat and he is double teamed.
Theilen is slowing down
Osborne isn't what they thought he would be
Smith is just coming off injuries.
So it's Dump right.....Dump left.....Dump over the middle.
They need another deep fast threat.
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Just saw that FTW guy on YT. I like him and his Viking stuff. I am all in on Claypool. He is in his second rookie year and is a physical freak. 6'2" and about 210 lbs. Runs a 4.4 40 or something like that. Remember Pitts has Trubisky at QB. Talking mayhaps a 5th round pick.
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Couple thoughts on that........
1) I don't think Claypool could be had for a 5th.
2) I think Tomlin believes Claypool & the quarterback from Pittsburg College (Pickett) are the future.
I would take him if he's cheap.
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Thelen may have slowed a bit, he is white after all :rotflmao:
But he's clutch.
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Minnesota Vikings running back Alexander Mattison has been the subject of trade rumors for the last couple of months.
Now that the trade deadline is five days away, those talks have been rekindled. Teams continue to make calls to the Viking, per multiple sources.
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:scratch: Jefferson & this guy both went to LSU & are good friends.https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/odell-beckham-jr-makes-too-much-sense-for-minnesota-vikings/ :confused: He won't be cheap though. :rolleyes:
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Where would bringing Beckham in to teach Jefferson to be a whiney Prima Donna be a good idea? :tut:
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Exactly what I worry about. JJ is a great kid now and sure don't want to ruin that.
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Where would bringing Beckham in to teach Jefferson to be a whiney Prima Donna be a good idea? :tut:
:happy1: i agree totally!!!!!!!!
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:scratch: I'd bet O'Connell had a say in it when the LAR signed him as a FA last year though & if he likes him, that's all that really matters. :rolleyes:
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:scratch: I'd bet O'Connell had a say in it when the LAR signed him as a FA last year though & if he likes him, that's all that really matters. :rolleyes:
But......LAR chose not to resign him. Is that telling?
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:scratch: I'd bet O'Connell had a say in it when the LAR signed him as a FA last year though & if he likes him, that's all that really matters. :rolleyes:
But......LAR chose not to resign him. Is that telling?
Just like last year he starts the season on IL & can't play 'til turkey day. Besides, them not signing him, just like Von Miller, is more about the salary cap than anything else IMO. I sure hope he doesn't end up signing with GB. :rolleyes:
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Boy that cousin's is good 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I love Mark Schlereth as a announcer.
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:pouty: Vikings need to put the binders on Hopkins!🙄
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Nobody could have stopped that touchdown. It was a pretty good catch eh?
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Nobody could have stopped that touchdown. It was a pretty good catch eh?
awesome catch!👍
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Vikings defense best start tackling instead of trying to strip the damn ball. :angry2:
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Vikings defense best start tackling instead of trying to strip the damn ball. :angry2:
You're kinda hard to please. They are 6-1. ;)
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Back to back sacks to end the game. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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Vikings defense best start tackling instead of trying to strip the damn ball. :angry2:
You're kinda hard to please. They are 6-1. ;)
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: maybe. Glad I will be in a tree next weekend, that way I won't need to watch that craziness!!👍🤣
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Buddy of mine, about our age, fell off a ladder this week and got pretty F'ed up. Stay on the ground where it's safe.
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Buddy of mine, about our age, fell off a ladder this week and got pretty F'ed up. Stay on the ground where it's safe.
stands are Union built, plenty safe :happy1:
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Too many penalties today, hope they can get that cleaned back up. A little too predictable when they had the ball & the lead late in the game for me too. :scratch: How about a screen pass early in the possession? Not all of 'em have to go to Cook either. :doah: A lot of stunts & blitzes from their D made it tough on the OL today but they got some good help from the backs most of the time though. Big game from #55 & the D getting 4 TOs. GO BILLS!!!
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Yeah, the "Prevent Offense" at the end of the game had me worried too. All they needed was a sustained drive with a couple of first downs to ice the game, and what to do they do :confused:
Cook up the middle. Cook up the middle. Pass on 3rd down. Don't get it. Punt. :doah: Repeat.
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Cook & Mattison both had good games. Osborn made a real good catch on his TD & Mundt was wide open on his. :happy1: :cool:
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It was fun to see Mundt get his first TD. He was really smiling. I can hardly tell the difference in Cook of Matteson. They both are good and run hard.
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The Vikes just got a great TE. 9th overall pick in 2019. TJ Hockenson. We gave two top picks but we get him and 2 picks is the way I understood. Irv just ain't staying on the field. I think this guy is tough too.
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The Vikes just got a great TE. 9th overall pick in 2019. TJ Hockenson. We gave two top picks but we get him and 2 picks is the way I understood. Irv just ain't staying on the field. I think this guy is tough too.
:scratch: :scratch: who'd he paly for???? i recognize the name????????
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Detroit via Iowa I think.
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Already been in the Pro Bowl. He is 6'5" and 240 lbs. See ya Irv.
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I read somewhere that Smith has a high ankle sprain and is expected to be gone 8-10 weeks which is basically season ending. Another big target for Cousins plus he should help #4 with his blocking also.
Claypool just went to the Bears for a #2.
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The Vikes just got a great TE. 9th overall pick in 2019. TJ Hockenson. We gave two top picks but we get him and 2 picks is the way I understood. Irv just ain't staying on the field. I think this guy is tough too.
So we get Hokenson and...
In 2023, Detroit gets the Vike's 2nd round draft pick and the Vikes get Detroit's 4th round pick, and...
In 2024, Detroit gets the Vike's 3rd round draft pick and the Vikes get a "conditional" 4th round draft pick from Detroit.
I guess conditional means, if Hokenson sucks or doesn't stay on the team, then maybe the Vikes get the conditional pick? :confused: Or if he pans out and plays well, then the Vikes probably won't get Detroit's 2024 4th round pick.
I doubt none of us will remember any of this by the time the 2024 draft rolls around.
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Fantastic deal that Kwesi made on this. Hardly cost us anything. Down a notch in two draft picks.
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I spose the Lions figure they ain't goin' no where this year - or probably next - so why not try to build some draft capital.
And with the 6-1 start, the Vikes seem to be in win-now mode.
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Hockenson has to be excited as heck about this. Going from 1-6 to 6-1. Proud to be purple. Grew up in central Iowa.
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:scratch: Yes, he's an ex-Hawkeye & a very good TE with good hands who can block too. He's a 2019 1st Rd pick, # 8 overall, who Detroit just signed to an option year, so he's signed through 2023. He should help open up the middle of the field for JJ & Theilen IMO. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/matthew-coller-vikings-are-all-in-with-trade-for-tj-hockenson/ar-AA13CRuV
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Triple like!!!
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:happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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:happy1: Pretty nice game from the new guy!! Good game from Dantzler's replacement too. :cool: A really nice catch on the last TD by Cook as well. They have a tough D & were in Cousin's face all game. We still should've got some pts right before the 1/2. :rolleyes:
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We barely got er done. I wish Cousins had even half of the toughness that Heineke has.. That is what he has always lacked. Agressive tougness.
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:scratch: I'm sure Cousins is sore today as he got hit a lot (11) & we only hit Heinecke 7 times. We did have 1 more sack (3) though. Hard to believe Smith didn't get credit for any. They got a huge assist from the back judge on that TD to start the 3rd quarter too, or it wouldn't have been that close.
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They were talking the other day about how much money the NFL is worth and these refs are doing their jobs as part time employees yet. They all have other jobs. Hence the guy in the wrong place yesterday. Could have cost us the game. Make them full time with practices and better training etc. Like MLB.
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They are paid pretty well & need to have at least 10 years experience/ 5 doing major college games to get to the NFL.https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/heres-how-much-money-nfl-officials-make-working-games
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Seen this? https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-2022-video-team-owner-wario-partying-with-players-in-the-locker-room/ar-AA13O5jB :dancinred: :laugh: :laugh: There's 1 out there of Cousins celebrating on the plane ride home too. :scratch: Not so sure any of that would've been allowed if Mr Z was still in charge. :rolleyes: :happy1: :cool:
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I haven't heard that Wario term before. Sure hope that arm injury on the Bills qb heals slowly. LOL
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Me either. :scratch:
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It is an UCL injury. Like a Tommy John thing I guess. He had it a few years ago on the same arm and was out for 4 games I think.
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I haven't heard that Wario term before. Sure hope that arm injury on the Bills qb heals slowly. LOL
Is Wario a capo in a Jersey crime family? Wilfs are from Jersey you know. :rotflmao:
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:scratch: Knew about Allen & we probably won't hear any more on that until late in the week IMO. I've never heard the Wario thing before though. Just like I didn't know, until recently, that there was a 3rd Wilf, Leonard, who is a cousin that owns part of the team too. There is actually 6 partners total in the team..
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:scratch: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/stefon-diggs-sends-bills-fans-into-frenzy-with-cryptic-tweet-after-josh-allen-injury-odell-beckham-jr-rumors-rejoice/a :confused:
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Don't see anything about Diggs on this page.
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I couldn't find it neither but would like to see it.
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No big deal. He just tweeted "Rejoice..."
He loves being all mysterious. Some say it means that the Josh Allen injury isn't as bad as it seemed. Others say it means they are going after OBJ. Who knows with him. :confused:
Stefon Diggs sends Bills fans into frenzy with cryptic tweet after Josh Allen injury, Odell Beckham Jr. rumors: "Rejoice..." (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/stefon-diggs-sends-bills-fans-into-frenzy-with-cryptic-tweet-after-josh-allen-injury-odell-beckham-jr-rumors-rejoice/ar-AA13TSST)
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No big deal. He just tweeted "Rejoice..."
He loves being all mysterious. Some say it means that the Josh Allen injury isn't as bad as it seemed. Others say it means they are going after OBJ. Who knows with him. :confused:
Stefon Diggs sends Bills fans into frenzy with cryptic tweet after Josh Allen injury, Odell Beckham Jr. rumors: "Rejoice..." (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/stefon-diggs-sends-bills-fans-into-frenzy-with-cryptic-tweet-after-josh-allen-injury-odell-beckham-jr-rumors-rejoice/ar-AA13TSST)
Bills’ Josh Allen avoids major elbow injury, status for Vikings game ‘up in the air’ (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/bills-josh-allen-avoids-major-elbow-injury-status-vikings-game-up-in-the-air-report)
"I’m not saying that he is definitively playing this week. That is described to me as being up in the air. Essentially, we do not know if Josh Allen is going to be on the field this week. From what I understand, he is expected to be limited in practice and then will be judged day-by-day to see how he progresses."
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He did not practice today.
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Who's his backup? ;)
Bills vs. Vikings Betting Line Moves; QB Josh Allen OUT, Case Keenum In? (https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/bills-vs-vikings-betting-line-moves-qb-josh-allen-out-case-keenum-in)
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Well Case Kennum of course. SO we played Teddy and Heineke so it would only be fitting to play Case now too. We need to play Sloter now. LOL
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Well Case Kennum of course. SO we played Teddy and Heineke so it would only be fitting to play Case now too. We need to play Sloter now. LOL
Maybe the Pac will need to sign him before the game in Lambeau game in January. :rotflmao:
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A radio guy was saying that word on the street is that the team wants them to start Love. I can't blame them. Has to be a pain playing with a prima donna like Erin. May be fun for them to play with Love. Can say it is so Erin doesn't get hurt. LOLOL Wink wink
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A radio guy was saying that word on the street is that the team wants them to start Love. I can't blame them. Has to be a pain playing with a prima donna like Erin. May be fun for them to play with Love. Can say it is so Erin doesn't get hurt. LOLOL Wink wink
Packers Rumors: WRs Frustrated at Being Made Scapegoat After Rodgers' OTA Absence (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10055177-packers-rumors-wrs-frustrated-at-being-made-scapegoat-after-rodgers-ota-absence)
The Green Bay Packers' wide receiving corps is apparently tired of being scapegoated for the team's offensive struggles.
ESPN reported the criticism of the receivers "isn't sitting well" given Aaron Rodgers' decision to not attend voluntary offseason workouts.
The Green Bay offense has been completely lacking in chemistry all season, with Rodgers going from back-to-back MVP to one of the worst starting quarterbacks in football. Rodgers currently sits 27th among starters in QBR, and his seven interceptions are already the most he's had over a full season since 2016.
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And what burns by butt is why in the heck was he the MVP just cuz he won our weak division? Big deal an absolute nothing accomplishment. How about Stafford coming from a terrible team and then winning a SB. THAT is MVP material.
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Maybe Stafford just had a LOT more to work with. But then again winning the Super bowl for the Rams might have been for other reasons. The Rams are terrible so far this year to. So Stafford isn't doing so hot now either. :confused:
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Exactly. It took a lot of coordination to make it all happen last year. Stafford deserved a great thing like that. He played on a crappy team for many years.
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Vikings' Akayleb Evans: Likely for Week 10 start (https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/vikings-akayleb-evans-likely-for-week-10-start/)
Evans is likely to start Week 10 with Cameron Dantzler (ankle) expected to be sidelined, Chris Tomasson of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports.
Evans racked up six tackles and one pass breakup versus Washington in Week 9, when Dantzler's ankle injury forced him to leave the field early. The rookie fourth-round pick proved productive while handling 69 percent of defensive snaps last week.
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:scratch: I see Allen is now listed as questionable after he took part in a limited practice yday. :rolleyes: https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/injuries/_/name/buf/buffalo-bills
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Even though 1 of their best edge rushers is out, they still have Von Miller & our guards struggled last week against Washington. They will need to play better than that this week or Cousins may not finish the game. I look for Leslie Frazier to put 8 at the line in order stop Cook & dare us to beat them throwing the ball. He likes to blitz a lot too.
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i dont give them but a 10% chance of winning!!!!! regardless who starts for the Bills!!!!!! :pouty:
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They will win.....Hockenson and Jefferson will make the difference.
:happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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i dont give them but a 10% chance of winning!!!!! regardless who starts for the Bills!!!!!! :pouty:
Don't give the Bills or Vikings a 10% chance?
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i dont give them but a 10% chance of winning!!!!! regardless who starts for the Bills!!!!!! :pouty:
Don't give the Bills or Vikings a 10% chance?
Vikings!👍🤣
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Well I guess Allen is starting. We will see how long he lasts.
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I see the spread has changed too, yday it was -3-3.5 Bills. Today's https://www.foxsports.com/odds/nfl/games
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Allen is a tough character but that elbow could present problems.
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Allen is a tough character but that elbow could present problems.
yea i'm not sure why they are rushing him???? if he hurts it worse he could be out alot longer?????
maybe there playing mind games with the vikings and everyone else!!!!!! :rotflmao:
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They'd much rather have KC come to Buffalo to play the AFC Championship this year, so I think he'll play as long as he can. He had almost 90yards running the ball in their last game.
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Might as well put a Buffalo jersey on Kirk.
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No kidding. The refs already have Buffalo jerseys on
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That might be the most exciting game if the year. Looked pretty bad for the Vikings a lot of times, but they managed to pull it off. Lots of luck and some pretty good plays when they needed them.
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Might as well put a Buffalo jersey on Kirk.
what da hell boober.... Where's your faith in capt Kirk!! :confused: :nerd: :super smiley: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll:
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Might as well put a Buffalo jersey on Kirk.
what da hell boober.... Where's your faith in capt Kirk!! :confused: :nerd: :super smiley: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll:
Just a smidge more than yours, didn't you give them 10%... ;)
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:nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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That might be the most exciting game if the year. Looked pretty bad for the Vikings a lot of times, but they managed to pull it off. Lots of luck and some pretty good plays when they needed them.
WOW!!! :applause:
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The Vikings can thank me for this Win! :happy1:
I'm 3-0 for shutting losing games off! And they won all three times when I watch the Youtube highlights! I'm going to keep doing that! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Whatever it takes. I was ready to give Quirk away cheap. He really screwed up a lot of plays but got it together. That is good coaching.
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I just looked at the Vikings schedule. They got Dallas next. And Dallas is picked to win?! :crazy: :crazy: :doah:
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Yeah......then New England on Thanksgiving night. And then the Jets. Toughest part of the schedule right now.
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I was so darn disgusted at one point I almost pulled a Leech and quit watching but not quite. The wife and I both had our Smith 22 jerseys on. She went and changed to her Theilen 19 jersey and we pulled it off. I give her some superstitious credit for the win. :sleazy:
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Heard on KFAN Whine Line that Kapt. Kirk is having his WORST statistical season as a Viking. :scratch:
It seems to me the difference this year is ol' Kirky isn't afraid to make a mistake. He wins some - he loses some, but when he does, the rest of the team is there to pick each other up. Coach KOC doesn't panic and he doesn't send players to the dog house.
Never seen a play like the goal line fumble. It was good karma after the refs and NFL league officials tried to hand the game the Bills by NOT reviewing that questionable catch in the last 2 minutes and refusing to call pass interference against the Bills defending in the end zone.
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:scratch: https://www.totalprosports.com/nfl/nfl-admit-vikings-bills-mistake/ :confused:
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interesting Gunner...
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:pouty: I said no catch right away as it was pretty easy to see he bobbled it & that the ball hit the ground as he was coming down. One of the guys in the booth, Joe Davis(?), said the same thing too, even before he seen the replay. :rolleyes: That's why they hurried to get the ball snapped on the next play. :tut:
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That missed extra point changed the history of that game and how it played out.
Glenns Cousin sure put some up under a couple of those balls. They were so high I thought Sano was hitting pop-ups. You also can see the change in Cousins the way he trys to drill the ball between the defenders.
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I see that the Bills had 12 men on the field to stop Cook also. Not just a guy not getting off the field slowly, but an extra lineman. You can check it out at Yahoo Sports or USA Today. Pretty pathetic that these officials can have so much influence on the game, especially in one direction.
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I saw that. I think they had 12 men on the field when Kirk tried to do the QB sneak too.
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All those blown calls and they still won the game. :happy1:
I don't want to J*I*N*X them, but could the 2022 Vikings be a "team of destiny"? :scratch: :coffee:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Darrisaw & Evans both left the game with concussions, hope they're OK this week. Smith's knee bothering him but it's lookin like he'll play. Kind of quiet about Tomlinson so far. :scratch:
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Hard to know where things are at with the concussion protocol.
The first year they instituted it, it was pretty strict. When guys went out, they usually went out for a couple few games.
In years after, it seemed to be a lower bar. Guys would miss a couple practices, but often "cleared protocol" and were in the game the following week.
But after the Tua incident earlier this year, it seems as if they got serious again about the standards - which I think is for the good. No one wants these guys to end up with CTE after they retire.
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I agree Steve-O, seems like if they improve enough to take part, at least a little, in practice by Friday they often are cleared to play this season.
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3 home games coming up......Dallas, New England, and the Jets. Should be some good football. Hopefully they can win 2 out of 3. All those teams are also playing for playoff spots.
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They in trouble now...
NFL power rankings: Vikings plunder their way to the top as Eagles slip to No. 2 (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-power-rankings-vikings-plunder-way-top-eagles-slip-no-2)
Power rankings say they are #1 (whatever that means), but they are still home underdogs to the Cowboys. :scratch:
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I was kinda surprised myself in the strib they are 1.5 point underdogs ( as of today's issue).I checked rankings also, Fox had them on top but several others had them 3 yet, that's a good spot for them.
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I was kinda surprised myself in the strib they are 1.5 point underdogs ( as of today's issue).I checked rankings also, Fox had them on top but several others had them 3 yet, that's a good spot for them.
:pouty: and i suppose you read that all whilst punched in at work!!!!!!! :tut: :pouty: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:popcorn:
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I was kinda surprised myself in the strib they are 1.5 point underdogs ( as of today's issue).I checked rankings also, Fox had them on top but several others had them 3 yet, that's a good spot for them.
:pouty: and i suppose you read that all whilst punched in at work!!!!!!! :tut: :pouty: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Well....yeah! It's more better using someone else's wifi, and getting paid.. :happy1: ;) :rotflmao:
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I was kinda surprised myself in the strib they are 1.5 point underdogs ( as of today's issue).I checked rankings also, Fox had them on top but several others had them 3 yet, that's a good spot for them.
:pouty: and i suppose you read that all whilst punched in at work!!!!!!! :tut: :pouty: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Well....yeah! It's more better using someone else's wifi, and getting paid.. :happy1: ;) :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Sound like one of them union jobs. If you get good at that, Bobb, maybe you can become a certified thug.
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Best when they are underdogs. They tend to play better then me thinks. And ya, what better time to surf the web then when getting paid for it. ;)
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Sound like one of them union jobs. If you get good at that, Bobb, maybe you can become a certified thug.
:mooning: :rotflmao: hey it takes a lot of specialized training to be certified!! :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Wednesday began with Vikings wide receiver Justin Jefferson being named the NFC’s offensive player of the week in recognition of his performance in last Sunday’s 33-30 overtime win over the Bills and it continued with Jefferson making an appearance on the team’s injury report.
Jefferson is listed as a limited participant in practice due to a toe injury. It’s the first time that Jefferson has appeared on the team’s injury report this season.
:thumbs: :thumbs: :pouty: :pouty:
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Yea his head is probably so swelled up he couldn't get his helmet on!🤣🤣
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Remember when he did the dance after the one TD and he grabbed his leg? Mayhaps he was hurting some then.
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O'Neill & JJ were both laughing when O'Neill interrupted JJ's dance on the 1st TD where he was grabbing at his hamstring a little. So, I think that was staged & they'd talked about it. Messing with the Bills fans a little IMO. :smiley:
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Darrisaw is back & Smith is still dinged but expected to play. Dantzler said mid-week that he expects to play some too. Tomlinson & Evans are still listed as out, however.
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After reading some of the comments/ predictions for the Vikings I hope the Vikings blow Dallas out.
There not getting any respect. :confused:
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Respect is to be earned, not given.
Want respect? Blow somebody out.
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One would think 8-1 and beating the Bills would Garner a bit of respect.
And this coming from me a denier🤣🤣
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Talking head, Howie Long, said on the Fox pregame, that he circled the Bills and Boys' games as the litmus test for how good the Vikes really are.
So howie, at least, is waiting till after this game before he jumps on board the band wagon.
Certainly the Vikes werent going to get any love from Howie's collegue, Jimmy Johnson, on the pregame show.
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I hope we win and I don't even care if it is by a point. But would be nice to smoke em out.
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Hope the Boys will be thinking ahead to their rival game with the Giants on Thanksgiving.
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One would think 8-1 and beating the Bills would Garner a bit of respect.
And this coming from me a denier🤣🤣
:happy1: I hope they keep sayin it's just luck, the Vikes seem to play better when they're not favored. :cool:
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Giants are in the same boat as the Vikings, getting no respect. They are getting blown out at home by the Lions this afternoon.
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Philly currently has there hands full with the colt's at the moment to. All of a sudden channel 4 seems to be blacked out?? :scratch: :doah: :confused:
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Mines working up here. Maybe yours just broke?
As fans we sometimes forget that the guys on the other team get paid also and are among the best of the best to play in the NFL.
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Mines working up here. Maybe yours just broke?
As fans we sometimes forget that the guys on the other team get paid also and are among the best of the best to play in the NFL.
:confused: it best get fixed by 3:25. Or I might hit a bar!!
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fine here too!!
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:angry2: :angry2: :doofus: :doofus:
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Eagles win 17-16
Jets vs Patriots tied 3-3 1:52 left.
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Shew... After a call to Dish.... They did something but got it up!!👍👍 Somehow they can tap into my TV!🙄
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they have eyes every where!!!
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We’ll, right about now, I’d like to see Dish drop coverage at my house. Pretty pathetic performance.
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Well my channel 4 just went blank again. Flipped the channel for a bit then back and nuttin. :angry2: :angry2: :angry2:
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You ain't missing anything but a beat down. The vikes need this tho..
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yup respect....
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That my friend is what a blow out looks like.
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:pouty: It was all but over after Hockenson couldn't pull in either those 2 chances he had at the end of their 1st possession. :rolleyes: :doah: :tequila;
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I thought our punter had a good game, and Joseph didn't miss.. :happy1:
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Watching this team every week, we could could see their margin of victory was always slim and that the law of averages says that success that way would not be sustainable.
Key injuries hurt the team, but if the offense can't score, they ain't goona win.
My decades-long MN Vikings conditioned flight response predicts that they will struggle to go .500 the rest of the way.
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I thought our punter had a good game, and Joseph didn't miss.. :happy1:
:scratch: Yeah, but their punter didn't :rolleyes:......................... because they scored the 1st 7 times they had the ball. :doah:
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So interesting what an experiment this was......
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That my friend is what a blow out looks like.
that sir was a royal azz kicking!! :doah:
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There'll be no time to commiserate :rolleyes: & that's probably a good thing. Let it go, flush it, & get ready for NE. Then it's 9 days until they face NYJ, hope to see some of the guys on IL back by then.
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So, :scratch: if I understand it the Vikings so called magic number is 2. Any combination of a Vikings win against the jets or losses by the Packers and lions the Vikings wrap up the NFC north. :scratch:
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They need 2 more wins. They have a 5 game lead in the division.
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I feel that GB is our ally this week. Would be nice to see anyone beat Philly and GB isn't even close to us in the division so I think the best thing now is to see Philly lose.
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Yea it be nice to have the Packers beat Philly for the race for home field advantage in the playoffs, but I'd rather see Philly totally embarrass GB too! :smoking: :scratch:
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They need 2 more wins. They have a 5 game lead in the division.
advice read it dutchy, and I agree but there are other scenarios in play also.
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Yea it be nice to have the Packers beat Philly for the race for home field advantage in the playoffs, but I'd rather see Philly totally embarrass GB too! :smoking: :scratch:
Win-Win!
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Yea it be nice to have the Packers beat Philly for the race for home field advantage in the playoffs, but I'd rather see Philly totally embarrass GB too! :smoking: :scratch:
:happy1: The Eagles had 363 yds on 49 carries for a 7.4 average. :shocked: Hurts & the RB had 300 of those yds. Pretty much a beat down for GB IMO. Philly has a tough schedule left though with the Titans next, the NYG twice, Dallas, & NO being 5 of their 6 remaining games.
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I hope they get beat a few times.
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ME too!! They look awfully tough though, as both their OL & DL beat up on GB most of the night IMO. :rolleyes:
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And we saw what a team (Dallas) can do to the Vikings when they dominate the line of scrimmage.
The Vikes are only ranked 17th in offensive yards per game, 340 (compared to #1 KC with 430 yds/game).
And they are 31st in defensive yards allowed per game, 390 (compared to #1 San Fran with 281 and #2 Philly with 304).
How do they give up 50 more yards per game than get and still have a 9-2 record? :confused:
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:scratch: :confused: They are +5 on point differential & have won 9 of 11 games. :crazy:
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Here is a stat that says something about the Vikings wins this season. Against the Patriots...
The Patriots scored more than 25 points...
They had more than 400 yards of offense...
They outgained their opponent...
They completed 70% of their passes...
They had fewer than 60 penalty yards...
They had 0 turnovers...
They had 0 missed fields goals...
In the Superbowl era, when teams did all this, their combined record was 170 wins - 0 losses...
Until your Minnesota Vikings came up against Bill Bellichick's Patriots. :rotflmao: :dancinred: :cheerleader: :Clap:
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Vikes got a huge break on the kick return TD. :cheerleader: :happybounce: :cool:
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Vikes got a huge break on the kick return TD. :cheerleader: :happybounce: :cool:
Vikings' Kene Nwangwu earns Special Teams Player of the Week for kick return TD (https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/vikings-kene-nwangwu-earns-special-teams-player-of-the-week-for-kick-return-td/)
Vikings running back Kene Nwangwu has established himself as one of the NFL's best kick returners, and he added to his case in the team's Thanksgiving win over the New England Patriots.
Nwangwu took a kickoff 97 yards to the house in the third quarter to tie the game at 23. For his efforts, the league named him NFC Special Teams Player of the Week.
This was the third time in his career the 24-year-old scored on a return. That's good for third-most in Vikings history, behind Cordarrelle Patterson and Percy Harvin, each with five.
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This from Tom Pelissaro on Twitter...
#Vikings CB Andrew Booth Jr. is out for the season after undergoing knee surgery Monday, per source. :doah:
Losing Booth, the second-round pick from Clemson, is a blow to depth in Minnesota's beat-up secondary, though Kevin O'Connell said he's hopeful Cam Dantzler comes off IR soon.
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ESPN had a report where Dantzler said he expected to return to action last weekend. :confused: He was still listed as questionable just before the game. Just seen that on Booth a little while ago too. :sad: https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/injuries/_/name/min/minnesota-vikings
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That's the cousins we know!! He sucks!
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That's the cousins we know!! He sucks!
So without your cousin Kirk with this terrible defense where would the Vikings be? Your cousin has his days, both good and bad.
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The guy can't complete a pass today!🙄
I'm hoping he gets it going!👍 By the way dutchy, if I post something derogatory about him, he usually makes me eat my words!! :confused: :rotflmao:
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Guess it's best to be lucky than good..
Defense comes up huuuge again!
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They need to figure out the 3rd quarter, sure have a hard time doing anything. If they get that squared away maybe these games wouldn't be so close. If not, it'll be an early playoff season.
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They need to figure out the 3rd quarter, sure have a hard time doing anything. If they get that squared away maybe these games wouldn't be so close. If not, it'll be an early playoff season.
I hear ya!! There up by 17, WTF push the gas pedal down and run up the score!!🙄
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Bend-but-don't-break defense ain't goona get it done against the Eagles in the playoffs.
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Quirk looked like he had the flu. Passed behind receivers and passed too late.
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And over their heads. He didn't play real well. Although Jefferson dropped one that hit him in the hands.
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Quirk looked like he had the flu. Passed behind receivers and passed too late.
Kapt. Kirk was 21 of 35 for 173 yards, which ain't goona get it done against the Eagles in the playoffs and probably won't get it done against the Lions next week either. :coffee:
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That Lions game is gonna be a tough one.
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At least with all of the close wins, the Vikings coaches have plenty to keep on the players about. The players have no reason to be get complacent. Yes, they better FOCUS on the Lions.
Goff's 340 yards and 2 TDs help Lions rout Jaguars 40-14 (https://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/recap?gameId=401437877)
“That was as complete a team win as I’ve ever been part of," quarterback Jared Goff said.
Goff, meanwhile, had one of his best games by completing 31 of 41 passes for 340 yards and two touchdowns.
“Our quarterback played as good as you can play," Campbell said.
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:scratch: The Jet's D is #4 in total defense & they've averaged only giving up 307 yds/gm. Vikes had 287. Cousins will be sore today as he got hit early & often yday. I think that had quite a bit to do with his bad start. The only stat the Vikes D has been near the top of the league(#3) is TO margin all year & they won that battle again yday along with having only 3 penalties. That was enough!! :happy1: :cool:
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Goff is the worse quarterback in the division, one of the worse in the NFC. He feasted on a Jags defense that is very bad. He will be facing another bad defense this week. The question is can Detroit stop the Viking offense.
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Depends on if they get "Good Kirk" or "Bad Kirk." :bonk:
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Green Bay was eliminated from NFC North contention because they can't reach 10 wins to catch the Vikings. The Bears were eliminated from the North last week.
Lions have to win out to get to 10 wins. Vikes have to lose out to stay at 10 wins.
One Vikes win or one Lions loss .......Vikes win NFC North.
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Packers are still in the playoff wildcard hunt. So are the Lions. Bears are eliminated completely.
And I don't see how we can catch the Eagles for home field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs and earn a first round bye. (There is only one 1st round bye now.) Eagles are up one game now, and they beat us head to head for the tie-breaker.
The Vikes will need to get two more wins than the Eagles the rest of the way (5 games remaining) for them to earn the 1st round bye.
Vikings have Lions, Colts, Giants, Packers, and Bears.
Eagles have Giants, Bears, Cowboys, Saints, and Giants.
I think the Eagles have the tougher schedule the rest of the way, but it is hard to pencil in two more losses compared to the Vikings schedule.
If the Vikings lose 2 the rest of the way (could easily happen), the Eagles will need to lose 4 (prolly ain't goona happen).
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yea mathematically the peckers and lions are still in the hunt......the probability.........not so much!!!!!
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Just read that the line on Vikes and Lions opened with Vikes by 1. Now due to betting Lions are favored by 1.5 and is expected to go up to 3 by the end of the week. The OU is 53.
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so somewhere, someplace this morning i read the exact same thing Ken posted yesterday about the Packers being eliminated, so???????? :doah: who knows........all the Vikings gotta do sunday is mind there own business and take care of the task on hand......and just win baby!!!!!!!
i still dont think there going far in the playoffs though............. :confused: :crazy:
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Packers are eliminated from winning the division, but their wildcard hopes are infinitesimally alive.
Vikings have a Magic Number of 1 with the Lions to win the division - the next Lions loss or Vikings win - and the Vikes clinch the division. Still, the Lions will have wildcard hopes, but not as slim as the Packers.
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If Playoffs started today....will most likely change with 5 games still to play
#1 Eagles get a bye
#2 Vikes verses Seattle
#3 49er's verses Giants
#4 Tampa verses Cowboys
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Wait, What? The 10-2 Vikings are Underdogs Against the 5-7 Lions on Sunday (https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/wait-what-10-2-vikings-underdogs-against-5-7-lions-sunday-detroit)
The 10-2 Vikings are currently 2.5-point underdogs against the 5-7 Lions for Sunday's game in Detroit. Wait, what?
This spread tells you basically all you need to know about how Vegas feels about this Vikings team, whose last nine victories have come by eight points or fewer. Minnesota's +10 point differential — plus-64 in ten wins, minus-54 in two losses — is the worst figure ever for a 10-2 team by a fairly wide margin. Clearly, the markets don't believe the Vikings can keep this up, even if they've found a way to be 9-0 in one-score games this season.
:popcorn:
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Just read that the line on Vikes and Lions opened with Vikes by 1. Now due to betting Lions are favored by 1.5 and is expected to go up to 3 by the end of the week. The OU is 53.
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Which means the betting is on the Lions not the Vikings. Just the way we like it.
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If Playoffs started today....will most likely change with 5 games still to play
#1 Eagles get a bye
#2 Vikes verses Seattle
#3 49er's verses Giants
#4 Tampa verses Cowboys
The 12/24 game between the Eagles & Cowboys will have a lot to say about the NFC playoffs IMO. It's @ AT&T, still not willing to write off the 49er's just yet. I'll never count out TB12, either.
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If Playoffs started today....will most likely change with 5 games still to play
#1 Eagles get a bye
#2 Vikes verses Seattle
#3 49er's verses Giants
#4 Tampa verses Cowboys
The 12/24 game between the Eagles & Cowboys will have a lot to say about the NFC playoffs IMO. It's @ AT&T, still not willing to write off the 49er's just yet. I'll never count out TB12, either.
I agree with Tampa. They are starting to get some of their injured players back. If they can give Brady another couple of clean seconds in the pocket they will be dangerous. That defense of theirs is pretty good.
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A lot of those teams seem to be improving and overcoming adversity to stay in the playoff hunt.
The Vikes are still... well... winning, but outside of the Bills game, they aren't scaring anyone.
Statistically they are the worst 10-2 team in the history of the NFL.
The only think keeping them going is that they get turnovers at key points of the game to secure their wins.
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The National Powerball Lottery is a prime example that ANYBODY can win if you play.
Same with the NFL play-offs. Qualify and you have a chance.
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Detroit this coming weekend will be a good test. They have won 4 of their last 5 games and are actually 2.5 point favorites over a team at 10-2. Can their defense stop Goff? Detroit has a good passing attack and the Vikes are a little shaky on defense.
5 players have been sick this week. Including Hunter, Peterson and Smith. The corner stones of their defense. Could be a high scoring game.
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:scratch: I don't think many people give K O'C & Donatell anywhere near the credit they deserve for the mid-game adjustments they make being as big part of the team's success as it's been so far. :bonk: Realizing what your players/team does well & putting them in the best situation they can to succeed is huge in today's NFL IMO. That is something that the previous regime did not do................ ever. :doah: It was always more the.............. my way or the highway mentality. :sad:
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Adjustments are big in the NFL. How can you explain the lack of 3rd quarter offense coming out of 1/2 time where you make those adjustments? Kind of baffling to me.
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The other team makes adjustments to their D too. Just about every team will show 1 defense pre- snap & rotate out of that to something quite different just as the ball is being snapped. Often we haven't had the ball that much in the 3rd because of the adjustments on offense the other team has made & our inability to stop them starting the 2nd 1/2. Personally, I'd much rather win the 4th quarter, myself. ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
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Darrisaw was limited in practice on Wednesday but it says nothing about yday. Smith was limited in yday's practice but Hunter, Bradbury,Bullard, & Ham are all still listed as questionable according to ESPN. :scratch:
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Darrisaw apparently hasn't cleared concussion protocol yet.
After suffering concussions in two consecutive weeks, I'm all for leaving him out until he is 110%.
I just keep thinking back to the ONE concussion (that we know about, anyway) that set Justin Morneau's career back and eventually cut it short. He was out for a very long time and when he came back, he was never the same.
I can't imagine what it is like for football players who endure that contact weak after week, year after year.
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Hunter and Ham are ok to play. Darrisaw practiced but may not play.
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Darrisaw apparently hasn't cleared concussion protocol yet.
After suffering concussions in two consecutive weeks, I'm all for leaving him out until he is 110%.
I just keep thinking back to the ONE concussion (that we know about, anyway) that set Justin Morneau's career back and eventually cut it short. He was out for a very long time and when he came back, he was never the same.
I can't imagine what it is like for football players who endure that contact weak after week, year after year.
I hear Yea SteveO... Next thing ya know they'll be just like boar!!😂 :confused: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Did boar get hit on the head pretty bad?
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I hear you, Steve-0, the report I read said that after the light practice CD wasn't availabe to the media on Wednesday. No report today, either, the last time I looked.
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Wr0ng thread.....can't delete,
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:scratch: How do they let Darrisaw take part in even a limited practice on Wednesday if he hasn't passed the concussion protocals yet? That doesn't sound quite right to me. :huh: I'd think the League &/or the NFLPA would have problems with that. :confused:
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:scratch: How do they let Darrisaw to take part in even a limited practice on Wednesday if he hasn't passed the concussion protocals yet? That doesn't sound quite right to me. :huh: I'd think the League &/or the NFLPA would have problems with that. :confused:
somewhere i read yesterday he cleared the protocol but the coaches hadnt decided if they were going to play him yet............ :scratch: at least thats what i read!!!!!!!
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That's kind of what I read too.
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It looks like they can take part in a light practice even if they haven't completely cleared all the concussion protocals. Here's a condensed version of the steps required to be able to play. https://static.www.nfl.com/image/upload/v1629471746/league/umfva5wnr32ozmukz5jd.pdf
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:happy1: That was changed some early this season, after the incident with Miami's QB. ESPN says #22 isn't expected to start now, but doesn't say he won't play. :scratch: Dantzler is listed as a starting CB though.
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it sure is comical to read the crap online about how the Lions are going to beat the Vikings....... :rolleyes: hope the vikings beat the snot outta da motor city kitties!!!!!!1 :happy1: :happy1:
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gawd....... :doofus: that johathan vildma is horrendous announcer. :confused: :doah: i'd way rather listen to Paul Allen!!!!! :happy1:
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Not good but to rather listen to PA is a insult. :pouty:
Vilma at least talks to his audience like they are over 12 years old.
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vikes are toast!!!!!!!!! :pouty: :doah: :embarrassed:
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The pass defense seems rather leaky. :rotflmao:
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The pass defense seems rather leaky. :rotflmao:
yea so are some of the offenses play completions!!!!!!!! :confused: :doah:
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:confused: :angry2: :banghead: :banghead:
thats twice today they screwed me outta winning some cash!!!!!!!!!!!
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5 striaght games of giving up 400 yards.......they need to figure out the defense soon!!!!!!!
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We don't bother QBs too much. That is a huge problem.
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Not enough pressure on Goff.....no sacks. Most of the time no one close.
Cousins throws for 425 yds. Jefferson sets team record 223 yds. Should have won the game with that. Cook's fumble down inside the 5 basically cost them the game. No Smith at Safety really hurt......to many long plays for Detroit.
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We're so predictable on first down, run up the middle for 1 yard, every time until late in the game. I won't say how many times I screamed at our soft playing secondary today, or the game before, the game before etc..
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We're so predictable on first down, run up the middle for 1 yard, every time until late in the game. I won't say how many times I screamed at our soft playing secondary today, or the game before, the game before etc..
:scratch: :scratch: BUT....the big question is...........did ya'all polish off dem wings!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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We're so predictable on first down, run up the middle for 1 yard, every time until late in the game. I won't say how many times I screamed at our soft playing secondary today, or the game before, the game before etc..
:scratch: :scratch: BUT....the big question is...........did ya'all polish off dem wings!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:happy1:
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Pretty lame D and the O can't put up 30 some points every game to make up for them.
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:confused: :angry2: :banghead: :banghead:
thats twice today they screwed me outta winning some cash!!!!!!!!!!!
:tut: :violin: :violin: :violin: :cry: :cry: :cry: :nerd: :rolleyes: :smiley: :smiley:
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It started with them going for it on 4th down on the 1st possession on our own side of the field IMO. :sad: That made it too easy for them to score their 1st TD, it only took 2 plays & :51. The 2nd was even easier with a 35 yd punt return, 1 play & :08. :doah: Our Special Teams let them have the ball near mid-field 2 other times, another punt return & the fake punt, too. :rolleyes: :doah: Not to mention we had 2 TOs & they had 0. :pouty:
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I can't argue with much of this https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/kevin-oconnell-hints-potential-defensive-adjustments-after-vikings-loss-detroit :scratch:
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Yeah, a couple of good point in there. No blitzes and the 3 defensive backs drafted last year (because they REALLY needed secondary help) are on the injured list. One thing to say for Zim is, he knew how to dial up and disguise a blitz.
However, after 2 years running of Zim having the one of the worst defenses in the league, the Vikes still have one of the worst defenses in the league. You can turn things around in one year in today's NFL, but it didn't look like that happened for the Vikes.
I hope they focus on getting the offensive line healthy - cause their only hope in the playoffs is to win games in shootout fashion.
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I've never been a fan of the 3-4 defense. It only works if you can steadily apply pressure from the linebackers. Smith & Hunter both seem to be missing this year.
Oh well, to late to do anything about it now.
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I can't argue with much of this https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/kevin-oconnell-hints-potential-defensive-adjustments-after-vikings-loss-detroit :scratch:
Good article and I am all for Mike Pettine calling all of the defensive plays from now on. Sure can't hurt.
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They might give Pettine more say in helping call signals for the D but I'd be really surprised if they take that completely away from Donatell. That shows panic & isn't good even for the Offense & Special Teams IMO.
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We all knew they were over-achieving and their string of last minute miracle plays to win one-score games was not sustainable.
Question is... how far back will they slip and will they be able to shore this thing up before the playoffs?
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I've never been a fan of the 3-4 defense. It only works if you can steadily apply pressure from the linebackers. Smith & Hunter both seem to be missing this year.
Oh well, to late to do anything about it now.
I agree on the 3-4, db, & the 1st 9 games we were getting some more pressure. But lately #55 & #99 seem to be MIA. :scratch: Wonder if they're hurt but then who isn't banged up some at this point in the season? :confused:
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Our next two games are at noon on Saturday. First the Colts are here and then the Giants are here. I need two more wins to win $300 in our family pool.
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as it stands currently the Vikings are the #2 seed. they keep playing the way they are it'll be NFL..........Not.... For..... Long!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Vikes will still win the division, but look out for the 49er's at 9-4. They could overtake the Vikes and push them down to the #3 seed.
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Got that right Steve o, and hasn't Donatell been all over the league as far as teams go? Hmmm. This is a smart coaching staff, you woulda thunk by this time of the season they woulda nailed some of these issues down. They might not be done losing regular season games yet.
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GB let him go in during the season so we can too. Can him today!
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:scratch: How do they let Darrisaw take part in even a limited practice on Wednesday if he hasn't passed the concussion protocals yet? That doesn't sound quite right to me. :huh: I'd think the League &/or the NFLPA would have problems with that. :confused:
He can walk thru the formations, but wears a red no contact jersey.
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GB let him go in during the season so we can too. Can him today!
:scratch: Don't think that's going to happen. https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211US1289G0&p=ays_ed_donatell_will_remain_vikings_defensive_play_caller%2Fs1_16715_38235821
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GB let him go in during the season so we can too. Can him today!
:scratch: Don't think that's going to happen. https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211US1289G0&p=ays_ed_donatell_will_remain_vikings_defensive_play_caller%2Fs1_16715_38235821
well they best figure something out!!!!! if attitude bend dont break pretty much bites them in the azz!!!!!!!!!
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Lets face it... Defensive "play calling" is overrated for the Vikes right now. They are just worried about how not to give up an explosive play on every down. This defense isn't trying to dictate how the opposing offense plays. They are just trying to survive.
Yeah, they might blitz more often to try to get pressure, but unless you have corners who can man-up and play close to the line, a good QB will pick them apart. They have yet to face Matt Ryan (Colts), Daniel Jones (Giants), Erin Rodgers (Pac), and Justin Fields (Bears).
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GB let him go in during the season so we can too. Can him today!
:scratch: Don't think that's going to happen. https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211US1289G0&p=ays_ed_donatell_will_remain_vikings_defensive_play_caller%2Fs1_16715_38235821
well they best figure something out!!!!! if attitude bend dont break pretty much bites them in the azz!!!!!!!!!
:scratch: Does it really matter, they should win 1 more game & win the division anyhow. :rolleyes: The NFC playoffs is between the Eagles, Cowboys, & the 49ers anyway & the Vikings will be lucky to win 1 game. Remember.............................it is the Vikings!!!!!!! :doah:
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Injury report as of last night.....
LT Blake Brandel tore his MCL and will miss at least four weeks. Oli Udoh and Vederian Lowe will be the backups at tackle until he is healthy.
LT Christian Darrisaw and C Garrett Bradbury are expected to return this Saturday against the Indianapolis Colts. Both were massively missed on Sunday.
WR Adam Thielen aggravated the knee bruise he suffered a few weeks back but should be okay. Thielen has missed some practice time with the injury but hasn’t missed a game as of yet.
LB Jordan Hicks and DE James Lynch are both day-to-day and O’Connell is “hopeful” that both will be ready on Saturday afternoon.
CB Cameron Dantzler is a little sore in his first game back from his ankle injury. The good news is that he is overall okay.
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:scratch: https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-roster-moves-david-blough-sheldon-day-william-kwenkeu :confused:
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I was hoping QB Blough would turn into a good one for us.
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I saw at least one report that Blough will take Kyler Murray's spot after he went down with a torn ACL.
The Cardinals also signed former-Eagle QB Carson Strong to their practice squad.
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One bloggers opinion: Predicting the Vikings final 4 games in 2022 after a dismal Lions loss (https://thevikingage.com/2022/12/15/predicting-minnesota-vikings-final-4-games-2022-detroit-lions/)
Agree? Disagree?
Week 15 - Minnesota Vikings vs. Indianapolis Colts Prediction: Win (11-3)
Being on home soil once again will also assist Minnesota in pursuit of getting themselves back in the win column. This should secure the divisional crown for good measure, which represents an outstanding accomplishment in O’Connell’s first year, whichever way one looks at it.
Week 16 - Minnesota Vikings vs. NY Giants Prediction: Win (12-3)
Had the Vikings played New York a few weeks ago, the prediction might be different. But the Giants are currently in freefall and this is something Minnesota can take advantage of.
Week 17 - Minnesota Vikings at Green Bay Packers Prediction: Loss (12-4)
While the Vikings have a better chance of emerging victorious than in years recently passed, this is also an opportunity for Green Bay to prove their lack of positive results in 2022 is merely a blip rather than a sign of things to come long-term. Something that could give them the motivation to derail Minnesota’s momentum ahead of the postseason.
Week 18 - Minnesota Vikings at Chicago Bears Prediction: Loss (12-5)
Things might be teetering on a knife edge for the Vikings. But any fan that wouldn’t have taken a 12-5 record before the campaign is kidding themselves.
Does this guy really think the Vikings will get 2 safeties against the Pack and one against the Bears? :scratch: does he know anything about football scoring? :bonk:
Or that the Colts and Giants will only be able to score 3 points each against one of the WORST defenses in football? :rotflmao:
Scores aside, I agree with his win/loss pics.
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I don’t think those are score predictions. I think that is the wins/losses predictions after each of those games.
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No safeties there......that's their record after each of the final 4 games.
They win the first one and are 11-3
Win the next one....12-3
lose the next one..... 12-4
Lose the final one and finish 12-5
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Steve got a case of Glennitis! Sorry no cure!!
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Doh! :doah: Thanks for straightening me out. :happy1: :bonk: :rotflmao:
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Steve got a case of Glennitis! Sorry no cure!!
BRUTAL!
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:scratch: Not that it really matters but the Lions play the NYJ this weekend. Be interesting to see how they do against a real good defense that's fighting to make the playoffs IMO.
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Steve got a case of Glennitis! Sorry no cure!!
:mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning:
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Steve got a case of Glennitis! Sorry no cure!!
Might not cure us, but this'll alleviate most of the symptoms. ;) :drinking:
(https://www.salsbeverageworld.com/images/sites/salsbeverageworld/labels/w7548177fp_1.jpg)
Its good for what ails ya!
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when my wife decides to have a cocktail....she drinks the cherry flavored stuff. it must be good for what ails yea....it says Dr. on it!!!!! :scratch: :rotflmao:
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it must be good for what ails yea....it says Dr. on it!!!!! :scratch: :rotflmao:
EXACTLY! :happy1:
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:scratch: Not that it really matters but the Lions play the NYJ this weekend. Be interesting to see how they do against a real good defense that's fighting to make the playoffs IMO.
:scratch: I see now that White(ribs) is out, Wilson will start & the Lions are favored, but it's only 1.5 pts.
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Meh, the vikes are gonna blow Indy out and ole Goff is going to do what he always has done.. lose!👍🤣
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Just looked and the spread now is Vikes by 3.5 so there has been people betting on the Colts. I hope we disappoint them.
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17-0 Colts in a heartbeat.
Captain Kirk will need to win this one.
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so what channel is hallmark again???????????????? :banghead: :banghead: training-087
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Meh, the vikes are gonna blow Indy out and ole Goff is going to do what he always has done.. lose!👍🤣
Glenn, you’re a jinx
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Meh, the vikes are gonna blow Indy out and ole Goff is going to do what he always has done.. lose!👍🤣
Glenn, you’re a jinx
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: i'd say......looks like the vikes dont wanna win the division.......best just hope for a Lions Loss!!!!!!
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For every cloud there is a silver lining. Todays silver lining is it costs us nothing to sit in our chairs and watch this implosion. Think of the poor souls who shelled out a couple hundred bucks to watch this slop. :rotflmao:
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Even though everyone is playing poorly, how does Donatel keep his job after this game?
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This is one of those games where EVERYTHING goes wrong. Every team has them. Doesn't matter what you do.....it is wrong. Just a forgettable game. Vikes haven't had one like this that I can remember for quite awhile.
Fumbles, Pic 6, Blocked punts, Go for it on 4th and don't get it twice in your territory. Recovered fumble negated by the refs. And that's just the first half.
Forget and move on to the next one. :confused: :confused: :confused:
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I'll admit the Vikings played like total crap the first half but the refs totally screwed the Vikings on 2 turnovers that should of been TD'S :pouty:
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The Vikings just made NFL history, the largest comeback in football history. Now don't blow it defense! Better yet turnover boys!
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Hows the Hallmark movie Glenn? Missed a pretty good football game. :rotflmao:
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Hows the Hallmark movie Glenn? Missed a pretty good football game. :rotflmao:
naw I painfully watched it
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Wow.....anyone who gave up at 33-0 and went to do something else sure missed out on one of the best games I've seen. This one even tops the win over Buffalo last month. These guys just don't give up. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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I agree with dk ;), the only possible explanation I can think of for that 1st half is :banghead: training-087........................................
Meh, the vikes are gonna blow Indy out and ole Goff is going to do what he always has done.. lose!👍🤣
Glenn, you’re a jinx
:scratch: :doah: ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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The big thing is they stay ahead of the 49'ers. IF they can win the first playoff game, they would most likely play them and better here than in Frisco.
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Vikings T Shirt in Locker Room after the game........
"Vikings Conquered The North"
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Vikings T Shirt in Locker Room after the game........
"Vikings Conquered The North"
Tee shirts looked dark green & gold to me. :rotflmao:
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Vikings T Shirt in Locker Room after the game........
"Vikings Conquered The North"
Tee shirts looked dark green & gold to me. :rotflmao:
You need new glasses. :rotflmao:
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RIGGED!
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What a fricken game that was. Even with crooked refs we pulled it off.
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It was great to see Osborn have a big game yday especially when #18 had to sit out a few plays. :happy1: I wouldn't be real surprised to see that Gilmore's hit on JJ draw a fine, either. That could've been called as targeting IMO. :rolleyes: Did you see Cleveland & Darrisaw down by the goal line trying to help Cook score on the long screen pass? :cool:
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There's a pretty :cool: video of K O'C's post game speech & the locker room celebration out there, if you want to give it a look. :happy1:
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I will look for it.
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Saw the locker room speech yesterday on NFL Network.
That's where I saw the BLACK T Shirts the players were wearing.
Vikings Conquer the North
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Dutchy should search for the live video and play by play of Paul Allens call of the vikings final plays to win!!!!!! :evil: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
it was epic!!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: This? https://www.sportingnews.com/uk/nfl/news/paul-allen-vikings-radio-comeback-colts/kqifukkx3myuvun7bkr7n7nl :sleazy: :nerd: :evil: He won't watch it :rolleyes: but maybe someone else will. ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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You are correct. :rotflmao: Last thing I need is Allens voice echoing through my head. ;)
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Thanks I will watch it. He is a great announcer for Vikes games.
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yup he did a little excited!!! :rotflmao:
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I missed the game. Heard about it Saturday night and watched the highlights.
It was really fun reading this thread afterward - all those posts from guys before the half. :happy1: I would have been right there with you. :bonk:
Funny thing. Two weeks ago I heard Paul Allen on the radio. Ahead of the Lions loss, he had a "sneaky" prediction that K. J. Osborn was going to have a break-out game. Paul's prediction turned out to be one week too soon, cause K.J. tore it up against the Colts in the second half. My guess is that P.A. had some inside team info that told him they were working to make K.J. a bigger part of the offense.
Historic win. :Clap:
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We had a couple backups have good games for the D too. :cool: Both Asamoah who backs up Hicks at linebacker & Sulley who took Dantzler's spot had good games. Asamoah ended up 3rd on the team with 8 tackles to his credit & Sulley led the secondary with 2 pass breakups. :happy1: I thought Dantzler was 'sposed to be available but he never seen the field. :scratch:
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I love Patrick Peterson...
He plays on one of the worst defenses in the league, and has the cahones to tell the offense at half time, "We're goona get some stops, you guys just need to score 5 touchdowns." Stops? :confused: 33-0! Really? But Peterson's guys backed it up - in spades.
This team really does believe in each other - and that didn't happen with Zim. When Zim's guys had the talent and the schemes they did pretty good. But they never seemed to play with passion for each other. They played to stay out of Zim's dog house.
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I sure hope we can put the Giants away. Would be a big win for me. That would make my 12 wins I predicted and then I get the money. :sleazy:
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I wonder what they will talk about on KFAN this morning. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: I will check in with them.
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I was telling the TV ;) :rolleyes: :smiley: that Donatell better have a blitz called on that 3rd & 9 with ~ 2 minutes of OT left. I think it was Hunter who was able to get in Ryan's face & make him hurry the throw. :happy1: :cool:
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I heard a post-game interview with KOC - don't know when he gave it. He was asked what he said in the locker room and or if he had to abandon the game plan that wasn't working.
He basically said they were "so close" in the first half, but they just came up short on every opportunity.
They must have made some adjustments that KOC didn't admit to, but for them to come roaring back, there must have been something correct in the game plan.
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:scratch: Yeah, they had to at least tweak a few things on both sides of the ball to get that W.
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I would think he said get in the QBs face and often. Give the DBs a chance.
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Best try to do something about this too or it won't matter what the D does. :pouty: :tut: :mad1: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35287159/vikings-weary-illegal-hits-aimed-wr-justin-jefferson
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Darn right!
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Ok my question is why is steve giving cusins a porn name??
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KOC is Kevin O'Connell. :embarrassed:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: I wondered what Boar meant. :happy1:
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Ok my question is why is steve giving cusins a porn name??
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :pouty: :pouty: its OK buddy......but try and keep up!!!!!!!! :rotflmao:
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Ok my question is why is steve giving cusins a porn name??
:pouty: :doofus: ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Vikings sign QB Josh Rosen to the practice squad (https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/20/vikings-sign-qb-josh-rosen-to-the-practice-squad/)
After the Minnesota Vikings had quarterback David Blough signed off of their practice squad, they had both a need at quarterback and had a spot open on their practice squad. They filled it on Tuesday by signing former first-round pick quarterback Josh Rosen to their practice squad.
The 10th overall pick in the 2018 draft, Rosen only played one season with the Arizona Cardinals, but he struggled enough for them to get the first overall pick and they chose to move on by drafting Kyler Murray.
He was traded to the Miami Dolphins for the 64th overall pick during the 2019 NFL draft and has since bounced around the league playing for a total of seven NFL franchises.
In his career, Rosen has played in 24 games. He has a 3-13 record as a starter with 2,864 yards passing, 12 touchdowns and 21 interceptions.
Will this make any kind of impact for the Vikings? I sincerely doubt it, but it’s good to have a backup with any sort of experience.
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Yeah, Cousins has been sacked 11 times & hit another 20 times in the last 2 games alone. :rolleyes:
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well looky st that...........our very own capn Kirk is da offensive player of the week!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i knew he could do it!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;) :rotflmao: :doofus: :doofus:
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Don't kid yourself Glenn, you'd be the first in line at an autograph session.. :happy1: ;)
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Don't kid yourself Glenn, you'd be the first in line at an autograph session.. :happy1: ;)
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: I'd rather have smoke and mirrors autograph!! :sleazy: :happy1: :rotflmao:
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Vikings' Garrett Bradbury tweaked back injury in car accident Saturday (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/vikings-garrett-bradbury-tweaked-back-injury-in-car-accident-saturday)
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:scratch: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35304547/misdemeanor-charges-vikings-lineman-oli-udoh-dismissed
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:scratch: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35304547/misdemeanor-charges-vikings-lineman-oli-udoh-dismissed
Yeah, the police were called for something, but months after the fact, everyone's story changes and the coppers were all wrong. :confused:
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:scratch: https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/22/vikings-vs-giants-final-injury-report-bradbury-out-dantzler-questionable/
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I see on the news they are encouraging everyone to wear white in the stadium tomorrow, a "whiteout ".. be kinda neat.
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Thats because they have "new" all white uniforms that they are rolling out for the first time tomorrow.
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they were showing them off on the news this morning...
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I will wear my white jersey then. :happy1: :happy1:
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I will wear my white jersey then. :happy1: :happy1:
I'll have white Grundy's on!! :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Even socks!! :rotflmao:
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:scratch: Striped Grundy's? :doah: ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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whitie tightie's!!! :rotflmao:
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My white jersey is a 4 Favre one. I am not as proud to be good friends of him as I used to. Shooting critters and drinking brewskis :sleazy:
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Plus being involved in welfare fraud.
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That's my whole point!
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Since the Vikings played the Giants, anyone hear about the shooting at the MOA???
Anywho, reading on MSN it sounds like a pretty big group of Giants people at the Mall when that shooting happened!
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interesting thought.....
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I guess they were but not in any real danger.
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:sleazy: :evil: :rotflmao: hey Dutchy.....iffin ya look on the interweb you can find Paul Allens play by play call of the field goal by Joeseph to win that game. :evil: :evil: :sleazy:
again..........it was epic!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :super smiley: :laughroll: :laughroll:
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So cool that Joseph got carried off the field again this week. Kicking a 61 yard FG is quite a feat. Good for him. That is what happens when you treat a kicker well.
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So cool that Joseph got carried off the field again this week. Kicking a 61 yard FG is quite a feat. Good for him. That is what happens when you treat a kicker well.
yea i'm beginning to think they didnt care about winning with Zimmer..........this new guy!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
but i seriously think a loss in the next 2 games might be beneficial to this team heading into the playoffs!!!!!!
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Noone likes working for a crab azz no matter what kind of work you do. This coaches attitude makes all the difference in the world. Attitude attitude attitude!
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I got to listen to Paul Allen as Joseph kicked that field goal. It was epic for sure.
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I was listening also in the car. With his screaming.....I couldn't tell if it was good or not. :scratch: :mad1:
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Ya he is really into it. I listen to his show often.
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bummer....packers won today...........i hope capt chains puse them out of there misery next weekend!!!!!!!!! :happy1:
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Ya that stunk. And here I thought the QB from Miami was good..
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That is what I thought too. Now Karen has a big head about things again.
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That is what I thought too. Now Karen has a big head about things again.
Just think... if the Pac beats us, the chances of them making the playoffs and playing the Vikings is closer to a reality.
Id rather see them play the Packers in the first round than to have to play the Cowboys again.
Who are the other likely opponents?
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It won't be the Cowboys.....They most likely will be the top Wild Card and will play the winner of the NFC South.....probably Tampa in Tampa.
2 of these Wild Card possibilities will make it.... Seattle, Washington, Detroit, Green Bay, Giants
1 will play the Vikings and the other will play the 49'ers.
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Tampa, Seattle, Detroit, and Green Bay are all 7-8-0. Washinton is 7-7-1.
...could be any of them depending on who beats who. :confused:
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Also Giants at 8-6
Won't be Tampa.....They will be NFC South Champs and play top wildcard....Cowboys probably.
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Who'da thunk that tampa would be leading their division with a sub-500 record.
I'm hoping the giants dont slip up and drop to face us. The Vikes struggle mightily against scrambling QBs.
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As of now, bottom 3 are out.
Eagles (13-2)
Vikings (12-3)
49ers (11-4)
Buccaneers (6-8)
Cowboys (11-4)
Giants (8-6-1)
Commanders (7-7-1)
Seahawks (7-8)
Lions (7-8)
Packers (7-8)
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:scratch: So, do they go all out & try to end GB's season, or do they worry more about who'll be healthy for the playoffs? :confused: Personally, I'd love to see 'em knock GB out of the playoff hunt....................... but not if it costs us in the playoffs. :tut:
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I agree, would be a nice confidence builder to beat them and get a few sacks on Kerin.
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would like to see Jefferson be the first to go over 2,000 yds receiving. But getting healthy is important.
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:scratch: I see that Cleveland & Bradbury are both listed as questionable now. Dantzler is not on the IL this morning & is listed as a starting CB now.
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:scratch: Read somewhere yday that Cleveland took part in a limited practice on Wednesday, so he might be able to play. ESPN's IL says he's still questionable though. :confused:
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Irv Smith & Ty Chandler were activated on Wednesday also. K O'C makes it sound like Smith may play on Sunday. https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/irv-smith-ty-chandler-return-packers/
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We now get the NYG in Rd 1 of the playoffs & if the OL doesn't get healthy quick it'll be 1 & done IMO. Bradbury's backup, Schlottman, broke his leg yday.
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I wondered what happened to him.
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:scratch: The depth chart shows only 6 guys healthy for 5 spots on the O line. That's with a #3 at Center & a # 2 at RT. :doah:
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I read that Reed our now Center has never played that position before. Hopefully he gets better every snap.
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already building up excuses for the 1 and done in the playoffs!!!!!!!!! :pouty: :confused: where's the next man up thing!!!!!!!
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They are extremely fortunate to be in the playoffs. Much better season than most could have imagined.
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They are extremely fortunate to be in the playoffs. Much better season than most could have imagined.
...Also considering they STILL have one of the WORST defenses in the league.
already building up excuses for the 1 and done in the playoffs!!!!!!!!! :pouty: :confused: where's the next man up thing!!!!!!!
We'll just have to wait and see how hurt the other play-off teams are.
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I read that Reed our now Center has never played that position before. Hopefully he gets better every snap.
That's why they had 3-4 false start penalties as soon as he came in the game Sunday. The color guy said that the Vikes have 33 different cadences to get the ball snapped & there's no way Reed could know all of 'em without having much practice time at that position. He said that they should simplify things & go on the quick count or it was going to be 1st down & 15 yards to go the rest of the day. :bonk:
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I wouldn't be surprised to see 'em sign 1 or 2 off the practice squad for some OL depth this week. Maybe a FA or 2, if they can find any they like, as well.
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That was my first thought. Not sure who might be available as a FA, but maybe they know of a of a player who has played under the system and could be a step up.
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As suspected, Brian O'Neill and 2nd string center, Auston Schlottmann are done. :banghead:
Vikings Place Brian O'Neill & Austin Schlottmann on IR; Sign Greg Mancz to Active Roster & Bobby Evans to Practice Squad (https://www.vikings.com/news/brian-oneill-greg-mancz-austin-schlottmann-ir-injuries-roster)
EAGAN, Minn. – The Vikings have made multiple roster moves pertaining to the offensive line.
Minnesota signed newly available free agent Greg Mancz, the team announced Tuesday. The 30-year-old most recently was on the Browns 53-man roster but was released on Dec. 23.
The Vikings also added tackle Bobby Evans, who recently was released by the Rams, to the practice squad.
The signings occurred in conjunction with placing Vikings right tackle Brian O'Neill and center Austin Schlottmann on Injured Reserve after both suffered what Vikings Head Coach Kevin O'Connell described as "significant" leg injuries against the Packers Sunday.
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:scratch: If they can't protect Cousins better than they have for the last month or so, nothing else matters IMO. :bonk: The stats show he's been the hit & sacked more than any other QB in the league for the last month or so. He goes down, Nick Mullens takes 'em nowhere. :doah:
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Justin Fields our for the Bears. Nathan Peterman to start.
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:scratch: Heard something about that yday but I don't think they'd put him on the IL yet then.
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This has probably been talked about already but just read. If we lose to Chicago we would play the Giants in the first playoff game. If we win we will play GB or Detroit. JJ may be able to get his yards if we truly do go for the win. LOL
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If we lose we play the Giants. Locked in three vs six seed.
Only way we play Lions or Packers or Seahawks is if the 49'ers lose to Arizona and we beat the Bears. We would be 2 and Niners would be 3.Niners would have to totally blow it if they lose to Arizona.
Lions will know before the game starts if they have a chance or not.....If Seahawks win in the afternoon, Lions are out. If Packers win they are in and Seattle is out.
Big question here is.....will the Vikes play starters or let them rest. Probably play 1 series and pull them out.
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Looks like Mancz will start at center, he's # 2 on the depth chart, so Reed will back him up.
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Got this from a packer fan friend of mine:
https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49ers-lions-end-aaron-rodgers-17694575.php
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I have the same sentiments myself about Karen
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Now that is good!!! Would like to shake the writers hand.
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:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: so i just read a piece on MSN.......best and worse scenerios for the NFL playoffs. ''when it came to the best possible scenorio for the other teams........EVERYONE had the vikings listed as an opponent!!!!!!!!! :doofus:
wonder why that is.........easy pickens!!!!!!!!
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One and done.
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One and done.
wouldn't doubt it
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:scratch: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/justin_jefferson_talked_to_kevin_oconnell_about_moving_him_more_after_packers_loss/s1_16715_38323819
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Sounds like a great ideal. The Bears have a crappy field just like the pasture in GB. Hope they wear cleats.
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Heard 1 pundit say he didn't expect JJ & a lot of the starters to play much more that the 1st 1/2.
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Sounds like a great ideal. The Bears have a crappy field just like the pasture in GB. Hope they wear cleats.
that pasture in green bay is for there cheerleaders LPS!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :evil: :rotflmao:
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Heard 1 pundit say he didn't expect JJ & a lot of the starters to play much more that the 1st 1/2.
isnt JJ supposed to be chasing some NFL recieving record?????????????
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Yep, most yards in a single season. He’s a little less than 200 yards short. Would be nice to see him make it, but I don’t know that he will be in the game long enough today, depending on how things are going. Seems to be Dalvin Cook was in a similar situation a couple years ago— chance to lead the league, maybe? But didn’t play much the last game.
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Harrison Smith out today with knee soreness.
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Looks like Mancz will start at center, he's # 2 on the depth chart, so Reed will now back him up.
:scratch: It looks like Reed will get the start at Center & Mancz will back him up. Irv Smith & Bullard were both activated from the IR too. A LB & a G that can play C were called up from the practice squad as well.
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ok no more scoring............. :tut: :tut: :tut: none by either team!!!!!!!!!! :tut: :tut:
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why so you win?? one more score!!!
PS good luck!!!
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why so you win?? one more score!!!
:angry2: :angry2: :confused: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :tut: :rotflmao:
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i sure like endings like this!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: won me a hat and Tshirt..and some minnow money on a little family board!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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would i be pushing my luck or asking to much hoping the 49ers and Packers both lose?????????
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would i be pushing my luck or asking to much hoping the 49ers and Packers both lose?????????
Why?
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why what?? :scratch: asking if i'd bee asking to much??? :scratch: or why..why
packers...cause i dont like rodgers and them losing would kick them outta the playoffs.
49ers......if they lose vikes get #2 seed!!!!
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I was watching the Buffalo vs New England game, didn't know the Vikings could get the #2 seed if the 49er's lost.
I understand wanting Erin to lose.
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I was watching the Buffalo vs New England game, didn't know the Vikings could get the #2 seed if the 49er's lost.
I understand wanting Erin to lose.
well thats what they keep saying anyhow!!!!!!!! :scratch:
Arizona musta borrowed the vikings place kicker :confused: :doah: :rotflmao: he missed an extra pt....its 7-6 niners right now!!!
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Glenn.....your number shows last edited 1 1/2 hours before game time. You sure you didn't somehow change the clock to get it in before the game started???? Especially with all those !!!!!!!! behind it. As if you already knew the score???
:laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll:
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Glenn.....your number shows last edited 1 1/2 hours before game time. You sure you didn't somehow change the clock to get it in before the game started???? Especially with all those !!!!!!!! behind it. As if you already knew the score???
:laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: nope......i had a premonition!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :rotflmao: a little voice in my head said change it!!!!!!!!! :happy1:
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Niners didn't help so vikes play giants next week as a #3 seed. I sure hope Detroit sends the Packers packing!👍
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You'll need to keep me filled in on the Pecker game. I have a new season of Highway Thru Hell plus a Sam Elliot movie "You know my name" to watch.
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You'll need to keep me filled in on the Pecker game. I have a new season of Highway Thru Hell plus a Sam Elliot movie "You know my name" to watch.
that's a good flick!!!
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Yes, I think I've watched it before. But I've also seen Erin flop & whine before also.
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It comes down to which team can knock off San Fran so the Vikes can get a second home game.....Packers or Seahawks?? Even though I'm not sure the Vikes can beat the Packers, I think the Packers can beat the Niners easier than the Seahawks.
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I think the Vikes at home can beat the Giants, but it won't be a gimme.
I do not think the Sea Chickens can beat San Fran at home.
I see one home playoff game for the Vikes, and I hope it ain't their last game of the season.
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Mr Irrelevant played pretty good, 15-20 with 3 TDs & 0 Ints, again yday. Granted it was just the Cardinals but SF had 169 yds on the ground too. They'll be a tough out in the playoffs.
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Ya, the 49ers I think will be the tuff team to beat in the playoffs.
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The 49ers are pretty tough. I think the 49ers D is gonna make the difference.
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Here is who the Vikes will play next year.....Home and Away. Actual schedule won't be released for awhile. Looks like a pretty tough schedule.
The Vikings will play these eight teams in Minneapolis:
San Francisco 49ers (13-4) - NFC West champs
Kansas City Chiefs (14-3) - AFC West champs
Los Angeles Chargers (10-7)
New Orleans Saints (7-10)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (8-9) - NFC South champs
Green Bay Packers
Chicago Bears (3-14)
Detroit Lions
The Vikings will play these eight teams on the road:
Philadelphia Eagles (14-3) - NFC East champs
Cincinnati Bengals (12-4) - AFC North champs
Atlanta Falcons (7-10)
Carolina Panthers (7-10)
Denver Broncos (5-12)
Las Vegas Raiders (6-11)
Green Bay Packers
Chicago Bears (3-14)
Detroit Lions
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Ya that doesn't look good. Spose with the record they had this year they'll get plenty of prime time games to boot.
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Ouch!
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Geesh. Da Vikes haven't even been thumped in the playoffs yet and we are already ouching next year. Not good. :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Who knows, we may be better than we think. Those are some pretty tough teams to play next year. BUT things on teams change every year. They may not be as good next year.
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For the first time in a long time - probably since Bret Favre's first year with the team - the Vikings have played a season above their potential. That is a testament to them (and a coach who empowers, inspires, and motivates rather than dictating and punishing).
Will they be exposed again in the playoffs? Probably. Eventually. Their losses to the Eagles, Cowboys, and Packers demonstrated that it has happened. But like the cliché says: On any given Sunday...
Its been a fun season. They had some of the best wins in games the league has ever seen. They have a home playoff game. Skol!
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Rigged.
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Rigged.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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:pouty: :pouty: all the so called "experts" dont seem the think the Vikings got much of a chance against NY!!!!! :doah: :scratch:
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I think theyll take em, kevins a smart dude, he knows were they went wrong before. And giants got a ego with em
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:pouty: :pouty: all the so called "experts" dont seem the think the Vikings got much of a chance against NY!!!!! :doah: :scratch:
This team seems to do well with bulletin board material. :happy1:
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Giants don't seem to be a team that has quick strike weapons to get back in the game if they fall behind early.
Pull out all stops and strike for 14 quick points and then control Barkley and hang on.
Let Glenns Cousin Kirk throw for 200 yards and 3 bombs in the first quarter. Then turn Cook loose on them.
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Sounds good to me. Glenn's cousin needs to have a good game and be able to get some passes off before the D is on him.
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Cook has struggled ever since the OL injuries started, but he's had a bad left shoulder for most of the season too. Mattison looked good last week & he's about to be a FA, so I wouldn't be that surprised to see him get some more PT. It sounds like Bradbury practiced yday & they got a couple guys back on the DL this week as well. :cool:
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Cook has struggled ever since the OL injuries started, but he's had a bad left shoulder for most of the season too. Mattison looked good last week & he's about to be a FA, so I wouldn't be that surprised to see him get some more PT. It sounds like Bradbury practiced yday & they got a couple guys back on the DL this week as well. :cool:
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Well probably Vikes last home game tomorrow. Will have to go to San Fran next week if they win. Of course they could win there and hope someone other than the Eagles win so they could play at home in the NFC championship game.
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Would love to see the Eagles eliminated.
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Oh boy :angry2: :confused: here we go! :rolleyes:
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Yup :angry2:
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As I recall & you guys can correct me if I'm wrong but, haven't you guys been saying all season the defense sucks? So whats happened lately to make you think they have changed?
I expect Staley from the Chargers to be fired soon. He's a young defensive guy. :sleazy:
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As I recall & you guys can correct me if I'm wrong but, haven't you guys been saying all season the defense sucks? So whats happened lately to make you think they have changed?
I expect Staley from the Chargers to be fired soon. He's a young defensive guy. :sleazy:
hope the Vikings defense coordinator goes to! :confused:
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I think thats a given. He will be gone.
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:pouty: :confused: well some much for that!!!!!!!!! :cry:
anyone know whats going on with Dantzler........he was out to a serious issue is all i read?????/ dutchy wanna get on that!!!! :rotflmao:
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Skol!
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:pouty: :confused: well some much for that!!!!!!!!! :cry:
anyone know whats going on with Dantzler........he was out to a serious issue is all i read?????/ dutchy wanna get on that!!!! :rotflmao:
Nope. Don't care where Dantzler was. He doesn't block on the O-Line.
How am I doing in the pool......still leading? :confused:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: first ya gotta pick some teams........still not to late!!!!! :rolleyes:
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OK, carry on. :rotflmao:
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Well.....can't say the season was dull. Win or lose.
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We all knew it was coming, at least it wasn't a blow out. Some game stats say otherwise tho..
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Ya know, and I hope Dutchy is sitting down, :rotflmao: but I'm not even gonna blame cousin Kirk .
It was the gawd awful horrendous defense.
Is it in the news yet the D coordinator is gone yet!🤔
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Glad to see you finally came around regarding your cousin Kirk. He had about as much to do with this as your sister Erin. :rotflmao: :happy1:
Anyway, had any of us been told the Vikings would win 13 games before the season started we all would have signed up for that. :happy1:
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All is I can say is with 4th and 8 you at least throw the ball past the sticks. :angry2:
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All is I can say is with 4th and 8 you at least throw the ball past the sticks. :angry2:
Hawkinson was a beast with yards after catch yesterday, something we didnt see much of all year. But yeah, that was no time for a Check-Down-Charlie play. I'd like to see a wide angle replay to see how all the other receivers were covered.
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Right, Hawkinson was a beast. Even if he threw into coverage it would have been a 50/50 shot. I'm sure he was thinking maybe Hawkinson could break free.
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:scratch: https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2023/1/15/23556657/conditions-of-tj-hockenson-trade-finalized-after-vikings-playoff-loss-detroit-lions
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All is I can say is with 4th and 8 you at least throw the ball past the sticks. :angry2:
got hat right........ :confused: :scratch:
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I saw the postgame press conference where they tried to get Cousins to criticize that play & he wouldn't do it. But he did say that he was disappointed with his throw just before that on 3rd down to Osborne though as he didn't lead him enough.. https://www.nfl.com/news/vikings-hc-kevin-o-connell-qb-kirk-cousins-explain-fourth-and-8-throw-short-of-s
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To soon?
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:rotflmao: if had better a defence stats I think would be way different.. oh well it's done this year...
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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To soon?
:scratch: I think we might have a closet Packer fan in here. :rolleyes: ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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:rotflmao: if had better a defence stats I think would be way different.. oh well it's done this year...
Of our 5 top picks last year 4 played defense but only the LB from OK, Asamoah, was able to get on field during the last 8 games. :doah: Cine, Booth, & Evans all spent 1/2 the season on IR & I'd bet the DC would've loved to had them healthy. :pouty:
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That is part of it, but if you look at the way the defense played in the first half of the Giants game... they couldn't stop anything. Pete Bercich was harping on this yesterday morning. Yeah, defensive guys were missing, but they gotta do better than that. The Giants offense IS "improving" but they're not THAT good.
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:scratch: I'd still like to see what difference a couple DB's that are able to play man coverage would make. Sure, couldn't hurt. Pete who? :confused: ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
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:scratch: I'd still like to see what difference a couple DB's that are able to play man coverage would make. Sure, couldn't hurt. Pete who? :confused: ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
Pete Bercich was a linebacker for the Vikes between 1995–2000. Then he was an assistant defensive coach. And now he has been the color commentator guy on Vikings radio broadcasts since 2007.
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In my opinion the Vikings were blessed with good fortune in the close games they ended up winning this season just as they had bad luck in several games last season. An objective observer would see that they are a .500 team. With the second worse defense in the league what more can you expect. Sometimes that purple kool-aid leaves a bitter after taste.
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:scratch: I'd still like to see what difference a couple DB's that are able to play man coverage would make. Sure, couldn't hurt. Pete who? :confused: ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
Pete Bercich was a linebacker for the Vikes between 1995–2000. Then he was an assistant defensive coach. And now he has been the color commentator guy on Vikings radio broadcasts since 2007.
Yeah, I know Steve-o.......................................I was just pulling your leg a little. :sleazy: :evil: Glenn must be finally rubbing off on me!! :sorry: ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: I'd still like to see what difference a couple DB's that are able to play man coverage would make. Sure, couldn't hurt. Pete who? :confused: ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
Pete Bercich was a linebacker for the Vikes between 1995–2000. Then he was an assistant defensive coach. And now he has been the color commentator guy on Vikings radio broadcasts since 2007.
Yeah, I know Steve-o.......................................I was just pulling your leg a little. :sleazy: :evil: Glenn must be finally rubbing off on me!! :sorry: ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
I swipe all of my insightful football takes from folks who know what they are talking about. My bogus takes... Well, I make those up myself. :bonk:
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10 bold predictions for the Minnesota Vikings 2023 offseason (https://thevikingage.com/2023/01/18/10-bold-predictions-minnesota-vikings-2023-offseason/)
- Ed Donatell will be fired
- Justin Jefferson’s new contract will set multiple records
- Kirk Cousins will get another extension
- Adam Thielen has played his last game as a Viking
- Several other fan favorites will be released (Despite posting his fourth straight, 1,000-yard season, Dalvin Cook is a candidate for the chopping block after becoming one of the league’s worst running backs per Football Outsiders’ success rate. :confused:)
- Danielle Hunter will be traded
- T.J. Hockenson will sign an extension (and Irv Smith will leave in free agency)
- Patrick Peterson and Dalvin Tomlinson will leave in free agency
- Garrett Bradbury will re-sign with the Vikings
- The Vikings will trade down for defense in the draft
:popcorn:
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Do we even know what the cap numbers are for '23?
Letting Thelen go will be a major mistake IMO. He still gets it done when they throw to him and you never hear him bitching about the number of balls thrown his way.
But I guess I don't really care. The Vikings could go 2-15 every year and as long as the two wins were against Green Bay I would be happy.
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10 Vikings who could be salary cap casualties (https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/vikings-2023-nfl-offseason-free-agency-zadarius-smith-dalvin-cook-harrison-smith-adam-thielen/)
1. Adam Thielen
Cap hit: $19,967,647
Cap savings: $6,417,647
Dead Cap: $13,550,000
Thielen is going to be an interesting one. With the restructure that he did last season, the dead cap number is really high, but his performance isn’t worth the near $20 million that he will be charged to the salary cap. His wife also went to Instagram after the game insinuating that his time in Minnesota might be over. A trade might be likely for Thielen, as he currently has a decent salary cap number of $11.817 million next season for a new team.
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I agree with Dutchy!! To me getting rid of him is a mistake. Of course he's not going to get thrown the ball as much with JJ and Hockenson.
Yea his wife did say something to the extent but i got the impression the Theilens weren't or aren't willing to redo a deal. I always thought he'd retire a viking.
My question is why did the brass throw him that kind of money then??
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:sleazy: :rotflmao:
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I'd hate to see Thielen go too. Besides being reliable, he has been team friendly the whole way. But even he can only kick his money so far down the road to help the team with cap space. $13M is a big dead cap hit if they flat out cut him. But if they feel the need to break the bank for Jefferson, they may not be able to afford Thielen at $20M.
Goodness knows how all NFL money works.
Its $20M against the cap if they keep him.
Its $13M against the cap if they cut him.
If they trade him, he counts $11M against the new team's cap. :confused:
An aging Adam Thielen fits much better on another team at $11M than he does on the Vikes for $20M. I don't like it, but I don't disagree with the internet predictor.
Plus Osborn is an up-and-comer. :happy1:
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I agree Steve with everything you said. I would also add that Eric Kendricks will be gone and so will Phillips and safety Harrison Smith. To old and cost to much. Younger players can't do much worse.
Vikings General Manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah said Wednesday the team has started contract negotiations with Jefferson.
“I wouldn’t use the word challenge,” Adofo-Mensah said, via NFL Media. “You got a special player, a special person. Those aren’t problems, or at least those are champagne problems. We’ll start there."
Jefferson, the league’s best receiver in 2022, will become the league’s highest-paid receiver when he gets an extension.
Dolphins receiver Tyreek Hill currently is the league’s highest-paid at the position, having signed a four-year, $120 million extension in March that includes $72.2 million guaranteed.
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Kendricks, Theilen, H. Smith are some of my favorite Vikings but but but...
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Although I would like to see what a coach that is under 50 with a new philosophy can do with the nucleus of the defense, after we get some younger players, and salute the veterans we need to part with cuz they are too much money. They know that too.
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:rotflmao:
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:scratch: Read somewhere that Hunter is probably gone too, for cap reasons. Found this on some other moves they made today. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-sign-curtis-weaver-to-futures-contract-lose-kyle-hinton-and-myles-dorn/ar-AA16uwNA?ocid=msedgdh Mensah & his #2 are 'sposed to be among the best young guys in the league now at dealing with contracts & the cap. Guess, we're going to find out. :confused:
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:scratch: A bit more on the new GM's background https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwesi_Adofo-Mensah
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StarTribune Chip Scoggins: Ed Donatell's first Vikings season a flop, but poor drafting has drained the defense (https://www.startribune.com/ed-donatell-minnesota-vikings-a-flop-but-poor-drafting-drained-the-defense-chip-scoggins/600244565/)
I can't read this Star Tribune article online because of cookies or something, but I'd like to know what he said, cause I'd love to disagree with him about why the season was a flop.
I agree that poor drafting has left the defensive cupboard bare, but if you go 13-4, win the division, and host a playoff game with a team who has had one of THE worst defenses three years running - that season is NOT a flop.
Again, for the first time in recent memory, this team has finally OVERACHIEVED - won more games than they were supposed to, and won several that they had no business winning.
But newspaper sports writers have to say what they have to say to provoke opinions and hold the organization figuratively accountable for NOT winning the Superbowl yet again. OK, Chip, you call it a flop... I say it was fun.
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Chip said Donatell's first season was a flop as defensive coordinator. Which we all agree it was. He also said the reason for the poor defense was the lack of players that have worked out from the drafts.
I see it the same way. The DEFENSE was terrible from day 1, it had nothing to do with the offense or special teams. We all agree (I think) the offense put up enough points to win the Giants game.
Chips only point was the defense sucked this year.
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:doah: I missed the Donatell part of the headline. :embarrassed:
Yeah, the Vikings season wasn't a flop, but Donatell's certainly was. :bonk: :bonk: :bonk:
Thanks, Dutchy. :bow:
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:scratch: :scratch: i just read that article from Scoggins on MSN!!!!! :happy1:
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:tut: At least 1 of K O'C's guys will be back https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vikings-oc-wes-phillips-declines-165849165.html
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My brother just texted me that Donatell is gone. ???
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Well as expected Donatell got his walking papers. :happy1:
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No reason to let him twist in the breeze. No good way to get fired, but this will let him look for his next job - NFL defensive position coach, college D-coord, whatever - and then the Vikes can start searching for his replacement.
10 candidates to replace Ed Donatell as Vikings defensive coordinator (https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/minnesota-vikings-defensive-coordinator-ed-donatell-vic-fangio-sean-desai-mike-pettine-raheem-morris-jonathan-cooley/)
- Vikings assistant head coach Mike Pettine
- Broncos defensive coordinator Ejiro Evero
- Former Broncos head coach Vic Fangio
- Rams defensive coordinator Raheem Morris
- Former Wisconsin Badgers defensive coordinator Jim Leonhard
- Seahawks assistant Sean Desai
- Steelers linebackers coach Brian Flores
- Chargers defensive coordinator Renaldo Hill
- Rams defensive backs coach Jonathan Cooley
- Cowboys secondary coach Joe Whitt Jr.
I don't know if any of these names grab you or are even recognizable. Good luck to them hiring the best guy out there when the Vikings defensive re-build ain't much past Square One.
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:scratch: I realize change was needed & he was the easiest move to make. I agree Steve-O, & read this pc yday that makes some very good points about the issues with the D this season. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/3-reasons-why-vikings-firing-ed-donatell-is-not-the-answer-to-their-defensive-problems/ar-AA16xzND?ocid=
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Good article. You gotta have the horses to do it.
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Couldn't agree more. They underperformed at all three levels of the defense, but to me, this was the one thing from your article that stood out.
"Their two primary tacklers (linebackers) simply did not produce enough big plays, and when it came to covering opposing running backs and tight ends, they were regularly chasing them down from behind and unable to prevent key receptions."
And I think that was Pete Percich's Monday morning after the loss take, when the Giants ate them alive in the first two series with the middle of the field wide open. At some point the coach has to devise a scheme that can shut something down. Yeah, that'll open up something else, but the longer the season went on, the more teams exploited his "shell" defense.
Still, to Donatell's credit, if the Vikings D would have gotten lucky with just one interception, and turned one of those Giants TDs into points going the other way, it would have been a different game. That is the way the whole Vikings season went. Unfortunately in the Vikings loss, they didn't get that key turnover.
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with all the blurbs i've read it seems like Flores and the dude from Wisconsin are the most likely???????????
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I'd take Morris from the Rams. If the Vikings think they are close they should have a experienced D-Coordinator. Not only to handle the defense but to be another voice for the head coach. They worked together for the Super Bowl run the Rams had so it's not like starting at square one in a relationship. Also at that time Darnold was there only true star on defense. Plus he's Black so that will make the NFL happy.
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That's the thing about the 3 / 4 defense is that everybody at all 3 levels need to be able to do more. Such as the DL has to stop the run, pressure the QB, & even drop off in coverage sometimes. Much the same for LB's & DB's except their priorities often differ by what the guys up front are doing. One thing about the loss to the Giants that not many are talking about is how many carries Jones had. He was by far their leading rusher, 17/78 & Barkley was 9/53. There aren't very many teams in the NFL that are real good at stopping a running QB no matter what kind of defense they play or who their coach is. The Vikings have never been 1 of them.
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I've seen 3-4 lists too but I'm not sure any of 'em had all of Steve-o's guys on it. Personally, I like Leonard, the Seattle guy, & think Pettine should get a look too. :scratch: I don't know that much about the bottom 3 on his list though. :confused:
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I'd take Morris from the Rams. If the Vikings think they are close they should have a experienced D-Coordinator. Not only to handle the defense but to be another voice for the head coach. They worked together for the Super Bowl run the Rams had so it's not like starting at square one in a relationship. Also at that time Darnold was there only true star on defense. Plus he's Black so that will make the NFL happy.
Might be tough to get Morris to leave the Rams and Sean McVay. Didn't McVay flirt with leaving this year. Maybe Morris thinks if he sticks it out a couple more years with the Rams, he might have a leg-up on McVay's head coaching job.
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I only listed him because he was on the list you posted.
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And I do like your logic - I just think he is going to be a tough get.
I do like those guys who were great defensive coordinators, went on to be so-so head coaches, and then went back to being great defensive coordinators again - like Leslie Frazier and - maybe some day - Zim (but on some other team NOT the Vikings).
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One of the Zimmers, I'm not sure which one is headed to Colorado to be Coach Dion Sanders (Prime Time) DC with the Buffalos.
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One of the Zimmers, I'm not sure which one is headed to Colorado to be Coach Dion Sanders (Prime Time) DC with the Buffalos.
it's Mikey. Think his kid that was a coach passed away recently. Although I don't know how many kids he has involved in football :scratch:
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3 kids, only Adam, the oldest, was in football.
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I know it is all talk at this stage but the 49ers have made Purdy their designated starting QB. So we need to get Trey Lance on our roster. Cousins may only have a year or two left in him and we need a change of scenery at QB. And to think that Purdy was the last player taken in the draft.
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i'm on the Purdy bandwagon and hope he takes it all the way!!!!!!!!! but that 49ers team is sure stacked with talent!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree Glenn. Fun to watch them.
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Lance was the #3 overall pick & his price tag will be very high. Way too high for the Vikes IMO. So will Jimmy G's, I'm afraid.
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:scratch: It sounds like they've already been pretty busy trying to find the new DC. :cool: Read where they've asked to talk to coaches from NO, Seattle, 2 from the LAR, & Flores. At least 3 of those are rumored to be in the running for new HC jobs too. Most all have worked with O'Connell before somewhere.
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#1 interview question should be...."Can you beat the Packers?"
#2 interview question should be "How would you stop our offense?"
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:scratch: After the GB & Dallas games everybody in the league should know the answer to #2. Put Cousins on his back &/or double JJ with your best cover guy along with a safety over the top. :rolleyes:
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Kapt. Kirk always has been, always will be a lightening rod. He hasn't shaken the rap of being able to put up good regular season numbers, but can't win the big game - or does he?
My question at the beginning of the season was this: Will Cousins do better with Zim gone?
Statistically, this year was very similar to his last two years with Zim (see attachment).
The big difference is that in 2020 there were 7 wins, 8 in 2021, and 13 in 2022.
Maybe Kapt. Kirk DOES have some "It Factor" in him after all. :scratch:
CousinsStats (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CousKi00.htm)
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Imagine a Minnesota Vikings defense next season without Harrison Smith, Patrick Peterson, Eric Kendricks, Za'Darius Smith and Jordan Hicks – and an offense without Adam Thielen, Dalvin Cook and CJ Ham.
Playing in 2023 with aging, high-priced veterans isn't an option for a Vikings team that is $24.5 million over the salary cap. Cuts need to be made and the seven popular players mentioned above (excluding Peterson, who is an unrestricted free agent) are the most obvious potential cap casualties.
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Scary isn't it? Pretty much has to happen.
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Imagine a Minnesota Vikings defense next season without Harrison Smith, Patrick Peterson, Eric Kendricks, Za'Darius Smith and Jordan Hicks –
It was bound to happen. Most of those guys are getting older and slower and more expensive.
Remember when Spielman started? I seem to recall he got rid of all the veterans and started with new young talent. 'Course Trader Rick had lots of draft capital to work with. I don't think the Vikes have as much of that for Kwesi Adofo-Mensah to rebuild, and it seems to me the Vikes have been trading future draft pics to get players for the last two seasons. I could be wrong on that.
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:scratch: They have until 3/15 @ 3:00 to get it figured out. Guess, we'll know by then.:confused:
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They have 4 draft picks in the next draft. And no number 2 as that went to Detroit for Hockenson. I would guess by April they will trade some of those guys for draft picks. They can't just cut them for nothing.
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:scratch: A cap expert & the Pioneer Press https://news.yahoo.com/vikings-24-million-over-cap-162500266.html :confused:
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They have 4 draft picks in the next draft. And no number 2 as that went to Detroit for Hockenson. I would guess by April they will trade some of those guys for draft picks. They can't just cut them for nothing.
We all know who will be cut, why would anybody trade anything for our guys? Wait until they are released, sign them and save any draft picks. We all know there are backdoor communications between clubs and agents for players. They can gauge the cost and interest of the player long before they get cut. I can see trading for a player under contract that will play a few more years but most on the guys talked about are going to be one and done anyway.
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Justin Jefferson has won the Associated Press offensive player of the year award at NFL Honors on Thursday night. :happy1: :happy1:
The voting wasn’t even close either, as Jefferson accumulated 35 of the 50 first-place votes with second-place Patrick Mahomes only receiving 10.
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He also got an award for “moment of the year” for the catch in the Buffalo game when he was surrounded.
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Darn good for him. I hope he stays humble and keeps doing great!
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STAYS HUMBLE????? :crazy:9
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Add a few more Million $$$ to his new contract.
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STAYS HUMBLE????? :crazy:9
Hope he stays hungry. :happy1:
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Add a few more Million $$$ to his new contract.
:scratch: From a little < $4 mil/yr now to somewhere near $30 is what I have been hearing.
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Yes.....
Tyreek Hill gets $30 million
Davante Adams gets $29 million
Jefferson is the best in the league....he will get at least that. Probably a million or 2 more.
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They have a lot of decisions to make by March 15th & it looks like they're getting started, https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/jalen-reagor-option-declined-justin-jefferson/
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former Vikings owner Red Mccombs passed away......he was 95.
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haven't heard that name in a long time!!! RIP
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Rip Red, I bet he still had some money to spread around..
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Wasted years for the franchise. Red didnt want to build the organization, he just made the payments til he could resell the team for big money.
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Yup RIP Red but he wasn't into the Vikes as a team just as a way to sell and make a small amount of money compared to what he could have made.
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He owned the Dallas NBA team that he later moved to San Antonio too. Had rhe Denver NBA team at 1 time as well. https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NBA/2023/02/21/Red-McCombs-NFL-NBA-owner-dies/3801676983680/
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'Ol Red was for sure a used car salesman. But he was good at it. He made a pile of dough in his life.
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Found this & thought I better let glenn know about it ;) as I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to miss any of it. https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/kirk-cousins-ready. :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Found this & thought I better let glenn know about it ;) as I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to miss any of it. https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/kirk-cousins-ready. :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: yea right. i dont get netflix!!!!!!!1
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Series will feature Patrick Mahomes, Kapt. Kirk, and Marcus Mariota. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Found this & thought I better let glenn know about it ;) as I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to miss any of it. https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/kirk-cousins-ready. :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: yea right. i dont get netflix!!!!!!!1
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Found this & thought I better let glenn know about it ;) as I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to miss any of it. https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/kirk-cousins-ready. :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: yea right. i dont get netflix!!!!!!!1
:scratch: I think LPS does though. ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
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Was just catching up. So Glenn you don't even have Netflix? We know you don't have access to Amazon movies. Do you have cable TV or Dish or do you just use rabbit ears. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: we have dish! :rotflmao:
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Sorry Mike told me to say that.
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Sorry Mike told me to say that.
:pouty: damn instigator!; :rotflmao:
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:scratch: :scratch: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Was just catching up. So Glenn you don't even have Netflix? We know you don't have access to Amazon movies. Do you have cable TV or Dish or do you just use rabbit ears. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:happy1: :cool: ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :scratch: So, are you gonna watch Kapt. Kirk's new show, LPS? ;) :laugh: :laugh: Maybe you got it set to record already. :confused: :rolleyes: :smiley:
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LOL Not set to watch but if it was on right in front of me I would have to watch it I suppose now that you brought it up Gunner.
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Heck, I'll make a point of watching it. I was certainly hoping for a better season from Kirk Kousins with Zimmer gone - and you can't argue with the results.
I think the Zimmer/Spielman tension was more toxic than we realize and that is why the Vikings D bottomed out - even under the master guru, Mike Zimmer. Let see if Adofo-Mensah can build it back before the window closes on the offense . I'm worried that making Justin Jefferson one the the highest paid receivers in the league is going to make that job harder.
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Make JJ a player coach. There is no limit what you can pay coaches. Pay him $20 million a year to play and another $10-$20 million to coach. That would blow some minds around the NFL. ;)
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Make JJ a player coach. There is no limit what you can pay coaches. Pay him $20 million a year to play and another $10-$20 million to coach. That would blow some minds around the NFL. ;)
Like Cris Carter 'n Denny Green? It's been a long time now, but wasn't CC one of Denny's faves and all the other players used to call him Coach Carter for all the special treatment he would get? I think there was something like that. Mike Morris used to tell stories on the radio when he was on KFAN.
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:scratch: If they give Cousins $35-40 mil & JJ gets Tyreek Hill type $, $30 mil, that don't leave much for the other 54 guys. :confused:
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Defer Kirks money out over 10 years.
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So Brady took a pay cut down to $25 mill for 3 years so the team could afford to get right. Quirk has not given away one cent to the Vikes in his time here. This is his last season. He is good but will never be great. He just saw his best year. Won't happen again I don't think. If he doesn't waver from the $35 I would make this his last year. I don't know who we would get as an option but that doesn't really scare me. Will be fun to see change.
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You don't roll the Brinks truck up to JJ's house and then get rid of the only guy around who can throw to him. If you don't want to pay Kirk than trade JJ.
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Theyll trad for a top pick, take a QB 1st chance they get to be menterd by kirky then let him go next year
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He'll sign another 2-3 year deal for $35-40 million/year & a lot of that will be a signing bonus IMO. They can then defer that about however they want. Erin's cap hit next season is $59.5 million. :crazy:
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:scratch: https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/new-wrinkle-for-kirk :confused:
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Fun article.
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Well that was a whole lot of nothing.
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yea i've been kinda following this. he may be a team player of sorts, but when it comes to helping the team from the money end,,,,,,,,,its all about him. :confused:
now totally understand he needs to take care of him and look out for his best interests, at this point how much more cash does the guy need to live. unless theres something out there thats not been told.....i havent seen him help the team whatsoever when it comes to freeing up money!!!
the other think thats confusing to me is teams kicking the can down the road? :scratch: how ofetn can a team sign players for all this money then resturcture it to fit the cap. at what point does it bite the team in the :moon: :scratch:
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Well that was a whole lot of nothing.
yea thats been around for a while!!!!! it probably took a while to get to iowa!!!!!!1 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :mooning:
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Lets remember that Cousins is the guy responsible for the large quarterback contracts. When in Washington he refused to sign extensions, we would play under the Franchise Tag which he did for two years. You will never get a team friendly deal from him. He understands the economics of the NFL as well as anybody. He knows there aren't many high quality quarterbacks once you get outside the top 15.
Another thing....Borrows, Jackson, Hebert are all going to break the bank with their new deals. Kirk is going to get paid, either with the Vikings or elsewhere.
Glenn as far as the cap goes they kick the can because the cap keeps going up. Once it quits going up many teams will be in trouble. Or I should say players will be in trouble. The teams will never take the financial hit, they will release players.
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thats the thing. when i was negotiating contracts........when it was agreed upon and passed, that was an agreement reached by both parties. and you dealt with it for the duration of that agreement. these parties agree to such and such and a year or 2 later they change things around.
i understand its like an apple/orange comparison and it must be legit or they wouldnt be allowed to do it.......
i also thought that the salary cap took some hits because of the rona and no fans money coming in????
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The NFL is all about TV & streaming rights. They don't give 2 poops about fans, they only pay for the stadiums.
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:scratch: https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/new-wrinkle-for-kirk :confused:
yea i've been kinda following this. he may be a team player of sorts, but when it comes to helping the team from the money end,,,,,,,,,its all about him.
We'll see if Kapt. Kirk is willing to help the team that made him a multi-millionaire. If not, I think Kwesi looks to trade him with 1 year left.
I gotta fix one thing from the article, though...
Cousins is the NFL’s ninth highest-paid quarterback as of March 1st, earning $35 million per season via annual average salary. He’s expensive, and the Vikings have reached the postseason just twice in five years on Cousins’ once in four years on Zimmer's watch .
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Derek Carr, who is about as average a quarterback as you can get is on a tour of teams now. If he is in demand it tells you the sad state of quarterbacking in the NFL.
When Kirk is gone the Vikings will go right back into the abyss again.
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Lets remember that Cousins is the guy responsible for the large quarterback contracts.
If it wasn't Kirk, it would have been someone else.
You will never get a team friendly deal from him. He understands the economics of the NFL as well as anybody. ... Kirk is going to get paid, either with the Vikings or elsewhere.
Yes, he will get paid, but not as a Top 5 QB with his 9th place ranking. Plus, the Vikes are looking for flexibility, and Kirk owes them that after all the guaranteed money he got. Washington screwed him, not the Vikes. We'll see, but I don't think the Vikes need to overpay Kirk now after all they've done for him. :popcorn:
Once [the cap] quits going up many teams will be in trouble.
That is what hamstrung the MN Wild after they paid big bucks to Parise and Sutter. The cap froze and the didn't have any money to pay players and make moves after those two guys got all the big money. :doah:
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Well that was a whole lot of nothing.
yea thats been around for a while!!!!! it probably took a while to get to iowa!!!!!!1 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :mooning:
:taz: :banghead: training-087 I'm not in Iowa & if you look, that pc says March 1, 2023 on it. :moon:
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Well that was a whole lot of nothing.
yea thats been around for a while!!!!! it probably took a while to get to iowa!!!!!!1 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :mooning:
:taz: :banghead: training-087 I'm not in Iowa & if you look, that pc says March 1, 2023 on it. :moon:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :sleazy: :mooning: :evil:
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Kirk owes the Vikings nothing.
The Vikings owe Kirk fair market value.
Any money Kirk made in Washington has nothing to do with anything.
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Well that was a whole lot of nothing.
:scratch: Yeah, not a whole lot new there. But I thought it worked perfectly......................well almost ;)................in that it helped kick start 13 new posts on the Vikings. About the only drawback is the extra heavy dose of :blablabla: :blablabla: coming from Stearns County :doah:.........................again. :pouty: :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Derek Carr, who is about as average a quarterback as you can get is on a tour of teams now. If he is in demand it tells you the sad state of quarterbacking in the NFL.
When Kirk is gone the Vikings will go right back into the abyss again.
I read somewhere that Carr was due to make $40.5 million this season if he stayed with the Raiders & with the season he had they wanted to give their young guy from Auburn a shot. Now, it sounds like him & NO could get together. :scratch: Wonder what kind of $ he'll be able to get there. :confused:
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Interesting... the NFL Players Association did a survey and ranked teams - report cards on each team treated their players. I was kinda surprised to see the Patriots, Bengals and Chiefs so far down the list. :scratch:
NFL Players Association team report cards: Commanders get failing grade, Vikings ranked No. 1 (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-players-association-team-report-cards-commanders-get-failing-grade-vikings-ranked-no-1/) :cheerleader:
After getting responses from nearly 1,300 NFL players this year, the NFL Players Association has put together its first-ever team report cards from players who evaluate all clubs' treatment of players.
When the survey results are released Wednesday afternoon, players and teams will learn that the Washington Commanders rank last in the NFL in this first-ever report card.
Those categories include: treatment of families, food service/nutrition, weight room, strength coaches, training room, training staff, locker room and team travel.
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looks like the Vikings cut Eric Kendricks loose today!!!!!!!
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Adofo-Mensah needs to start earning his money.
Kendricks was entering the final year of his contract with no guaranteed money left. Releasing the 31-year-old saves the Vikes $9.5 million on the salary cap.
Sitting at $24.424 million above the cap threshold before the Kendricks move, per Over The Cap, Minnesota must shed salaries before the start of the new league year on March 15.
Cutting Kendricks is a painful pill for Vikings fans to swallow. A sideline-to-sideline maven, Kendricks has started 113 games over eight seasons since being selected in the second round. At his peak, Kendricks was one of the most disruptive off-ball linebackers in the NFL, earning first-team All-Pro honors in 2019. While he fell off in coverage a bit in 2022, the linebacker still snagged 137 tackles, and six passes defensed in 17 games.
The other thing I read is that the "experts" say there will be lots of off-ball linebackers available in free agency this year who will be cheaper than Kendricks.
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Hate to see him go. One heck of a tackler. BUT what do I know.
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Saints gave Derek Carr $150 million for 4 years plus a no trade. What do you think of Glenns Cousin Kirks deal now?
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Saints gave Derek Carr $150 million for 4 years plus a no trade. What do you think of Glenns Cousin Kirks deal now?
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Cousin Kirk is still overpaid for as far as he's got the team!!!!!! :evil: :evil:
he needs to give a home town discount!!!!!!!!
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Ya, how did your membership react when you asked them to take a pay cut?
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Ya, how did your membership react when you asked them to take a pay cut?
the union wasnt the one asking.......... sometimes you go along with it to stay gainfully employed!!!!!! i can honestly tell you NOONE including the employer likes it. been there done that as a rep and employee!!!!!! but i didnt get laid off either. still got vacation accurral and medical benefits along with other bennies!!!!!!
AND......we werent even in the same time zone on what those guys are making!!!!!!!!
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Their salaries shouldn't matter. It's perceived value that matters. If other quarterbacks are making X dollars and doing the same or less than Cousins why should he take less money? Go to Jefferson and say.. "hey we haven't won anything and until we do we aren't paying you market value." Let me know how that turns out. :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :shocked: first off my post was tongue in cheek sarcasm cause i knew you'd respond!!!!!! :happy1:
then you go from football players money to union members taking a cut......... kinda wingin it a bit eh!!!!1 :rotflmao: :surrender:
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I just thought it funny that a staunch union guy advocates for a pay cut of a union player. Especially, a non-declining union player. :doah:
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I just thought it funny that a staunch union guy advocates for a pay cut of a union player. Especially, a non-declining union player. :doah:
in a union it's about the whole membership not just 1 individual and cousin Kirk isn't being a good team player at this point .
:happy1:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Good one!
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He gotcha there Glenn, since when did us union guys take a pay cut??
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Geno Smith who is worse than whoever is the Vikings backup just got $105 million from Seattle for 3 years. :doah:
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He gotcha there Glenn, since when did us union guys take a pay cut??
I have as a guy on the floor and had to negotiate some. The members had to vote and approve it.
Let's put it this way. The company about claimed poverty and they ended up showing our unions accountants. The international bean counters. At that point it's take it in the shorts or you get laid off or they close the door. It's been real in my industry.
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With that said when times got better so did the raises!
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He gotcha there Glenn, since when did us union guys take a pay cut??
I have as a guy on the floor and had to negotiate some. The members had to vote and approve it.
Let's put it this way. The company about claimed poverty and they ended up showing our unions accountants. The international bean counters. At that point it's take it in the shorts or you get laid off or they close the door. It's been real in my industry.
No poverty in the NFL. Now the Vikings will pay Cousins & Jefferson. Not really optional the way I see it.
Hey, the average guy can't afford a Vikings game anyway. Pay those 2 and raise the tickets prices $100 per ticket right across the board.
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Geno Smith who is worse than whoever is the Vikings backup just got $105 million from Seattle for 3 years. :doah:
Seattle was as desparate as the Vikes when they went after Cousins.
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i see where a Vikings player made the news for a good reason yesterday......helped savee a guys life down in Texas!!!! :happy1:
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4 years $160 million plus incentives for Giants Daniel Jones. The price of poker keeps going up. Ravens franchise tagged Lamar Jackson.
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i see where a Vikings player made the news for a good reason yesterday......helped savee a guys life down in Texas!!!! :happy1:
KC Osborn saw the accident and a couple other guys did also and pulled the guy out of a burning car. The guy is in the hospital and KC and the other guys were going to visit him.
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Geno Smith who is worse than whoever is the Vikings backup just got $105 million from Seattle for 3 years. :doah:
:scratch: After only 1 good year as a starter he has a chance to make $52 mil if he makes all his incentives in the 1st year of his new deal. :crazy: https://www.sportingnews.com/au/nfl/news/geno-smith-contract-details-seahawks/tjvggatkqgdrt2wkixcuc1xf There was 4 other off season deals done for starting QBs before his & they all were for >$46 mil/yr.
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I could put in a solid year of work for $52 mill.
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His average salary in his previous 10 years with the NYJ & Seattle was $1.77 mil/yr. Nice raise, huh!!!!!! :doah:
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Seattle had the best situation they could imagine.
They got rid of an aging, disgruntled Russel Wilson - who fell flat on his face in Denver. :doah:
Seattle got 3 players (QB Drew Lock, TE Noah Fant, DL Shelby Harris) and 5 pics (2 1st rounders and 2 2nd rounders) for Wilson and a 4th round pick. Seattle... :cheerleader: Denver... :puke:
Then, Geno Smith, Wilson's backup, finally stepped up and played great - a late bloomer. Guys don't often get that chance in the NFL. If they don't pan out in the first 4 years, they can sometimes hang on as backups - but that is no guarantee that they'll be allowed to actually compete for the starting job, especially if the team already has a high paid "franchise" QB on the roster - even if they are better than that guy.
I think Smith contract is a good example of a team paying they QB they know rather than take a bigger risk by picking up and overpaying for someone else's cast offs... (*cough*) Green Bay (*cough*) Denver (*cough*)
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Yeah.....that looks like an awful trade for Denver. But I would wait another year. Especially with a new head coach. Maybe Peyton will make a difference.
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I promise you that Seattle will have wished they gave that money to Case Keemum. Smith is a back-up.......period.
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Read a pc recently that said Flores has stated that he'd like to have Patrick Peterson come back. Haven't seen anywhere that they've worked out a deal though.
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Saw that too. I wonder if he sold his house yet. He put it up for sale thinking his time here was done.
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Saw that too. I wonder if he sold his house yet. He put it up for sale thinking his time here was done.
you might be thinking of Z. SMITH??????? :scratch:
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Scheftie stirring the pot again...
Schefter: Vikings could 'part ways' with Adam Thielen in coming days (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/schefter-vikings-could-part-ways-with-adam-thielen-in-coming-days)
Thielen's contract carries a $19.9 million cap hit in 2023 and the Vikings can save $6.4 million if they cut him before June 1, which if it were going to happen, it would happen before his contract fully guarantees March 16.
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Saw that too. I wonder if he sold his house yet. He put it up for sale thinking his time here was done.
you might be thinking of Z. SMITH??????? :scratch:
You may be right about that Glenn.
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now i read that Z. Sith has asked the vikings to release him........... :thumbs: :doofus:
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:scratch: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/vikings_lb_zadarius_smith_appears_to_seek_release/s1_14819_38560075# :confused:
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Hard to know what Adofo-Mensa is cooking up. A trade maybe?
Were some thinking Smith would be a cap casualty? Maybe Adofo-Mensa is hoping others will re-negotiate their deals so they can keep Smith.
I don't know what good it serves for Smith to ask to be release. You'd think doing so would lower his trade value - which is good for Smith, because that increases his chances to find another team he wants to play for instead of being traded to one he doesn't want to play for.
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Hard to know what Adofo-Mensa is cooking up. A trade maybe?
Were some thinking Smith would be a cap casualty? Maybe Adofo-Mensa is hoping others will re-negotiate their deals so they can keep Smith.
I don't know what good it serves for Smith to ask to be release. You'd think doing so would lower his trade value - which is good for Smith, because that increases his chances to find another team he wants to play for instead of being traded to one he doesn't want to play for.
yea what happened with all the big BRO stuff in the beginning of the year with Hunter.......... :scratch: :doah:
so if they cut him loose would the Vikings be free of more cap space........send him packin if he dont wanna be here........
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Adam Thielen has been released!! WOW!!!
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Adam Thielen has been released!! WOW!!!
:scratch: where did you see that?? i just looked all over and only found there's a good possibility??? not saying it aint true???
that would suck.........but kinda know its gonna happen!!!!!! :pouty:
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they just said it on channel 9, yea it does suk... here it is;
https://www.fox9.com/sports/vikings-release-wr-adam-thielen-after-9-seasons
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they just said it on channel 9, yea it does suk... here it is;
https://www.fox9.com/sports/vikings-release-wr-adam-thielen-after-9-seasons
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Good luck to Adam. He is a free agent now with a few good years left as a #2 or slot receiver. I do hope he knows when to get out when the gettin' is good. But I also know it is tough for athletes to stop competing at the highest level.
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That's unfortunate! :pouty:
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just read the Vikings waived Cam DANZTLER. that surprises me a bit. per the article only saves 3 mill in cap space but apparently he was always hurt???/
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Like they say... THE most important ability in the NFL is AVAILability.
We only see that he is hurt and off the field. They see what he is like everyday in practice and how he rehabs. They must not see enough upside to keep him around - even on a team starved for serviceable CB play.
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After the 3 cap casualties this week they are still $7.5 mil over, so there's more to come. That needs to be done by Wednesday.
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Cook will be cut or traded. Harrison Smith might be another casualty.
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I agree on Cook but Mattison is a FA too, so they need to figure out what to do with him as well. Does Mattison take over or do they let him go & sign another FA? :scratch:
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I think Cook would have to take a pay cut to stay. Read there is a team interested in a Cook trade. Didn't say who it is.
Harrison Smith will most likely go. Read he will take a cut to stay.
Zadarius Smith wants out. He might be gone also.
The Vikings owe Danielle Hunter about $13 million against the cap in 2023. He could go also.
They have cut CB Cameron Dantzler and Linebacker Kendricks.
Patrick Peterson is a free agent.
Linebacker Jordon Hicks might be gone too.
Could be a whole different defense including a new coordinator.
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Bud died, 96 years old. He had a good run and will be remembered in this state for a long time.
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yup.. RIP
https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/minnesota-vikings-legendary-coach-bud-grant-dies
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Bud died, 96 years old. He had a good run and will be remembered in this state for a long time.
yep mostly good but some blame him for a certain lake fiasco!! :doah:
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:scratch: Read where Flores wants Peterson back & he'd like to stay but they still have to get a deal worked out too. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/with-four-vikings-corners-heading-for-free-agency-patrick-peterson-chandon-sullivan-have-been-vocal-about-re-signing/ar-AA18oaCh
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There were a few games where Dantzler was hitting hard and shutting down receivers. BUT like they said, just hurt too often. Sorry to see him go too but a guy that plays every game would be great! Hope they make a deal work with Harry and Peterson. I think they help the young players too.
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Bud died, 96 years old. He had a good run and will be remembered in this state for a long time.
yep mostly good but some blame him for a certain lake fiasco!! :doah:
Huh? :confused:
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Some blame him for how the mille lacs :bs: turned out!! I don't, for the record!
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The only people who blame him are the same people who don't understand the issue. Bud happened to be the biggest name but really didn't have much to do with anything.
As the years roll by fewer and fewer people remember the squabble at the time. 20 years from now it will be completely forgotten.
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The only people who blame him are the same people who don't understand the issue. Bud happened to be the biggest name but really didn't have much to do with anything.
As the years roll by fewer and fewer people remember the squabble at the time. 20 years from now it will be completely forgotten.
:happy1: exactly!!!
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Bud died, 96 years old. He had a good run and will be remembered in this state for a long time.
:scratch: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/vikings_legend_bud_grant_met_weekly_with_first_year_hc_kevin_oconnell/s1_13132_38567487 :cool:
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:scratch: It looks like Hicks is staying. https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/vikings-retain-veteran
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yup.. RIP
https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/minnesota-vikings-legendary-coach-bud-grant-dies
Hey, I didn't t'ink of it until juss now... after 'da funeral, 'ders goona be one hellova estate sale at Bud's place. :bonk: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Outside linebacker Jordan Hicks is returning to the Minnesota Vikings on a restructured contract.
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Vikes sign the best blocking TE in football. Josh Oliver From the ravens I think.
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:scratch: I see where # 7 has signed with the Steelers. :oops1: I see where LPS posted it in the NFL thread too. :rolleyes:
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:scratch: I see where # 7 has signed with the Steelers. :oops1: I see where LPS posted it in the NFL thread too. :rolleyes:
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Vikings to sign Marcus Davenport
Davenport, whom the Saints sacrificed their 2019 first-round pick to get in a trade up in round one, has been a mixed bag at best in five NFL seasons. His best season came in 2021, with 9.0 sacks. Last year, he had only 0.5 in 15 games.
Acquiring Davenport could make the Vikings more willing to part ways with Za'Darius Smith, who has asked to be released.
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Kendricks just signed a 2 year deal with the Chargers!
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:scratch: I see where # 7 has signed with the Steelers. :oops1: I see where LPS posted it in the NFL thread too. :rolleyes:
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:pouty: :tut: :mooning:
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Another defensive stalwart gone.....
Browns are expected to sign defensive tackle Dalvin Tomlinson.
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Another defensive stalwart gone.....
Browns are expected to sign defensive tackle Dalvin Tomlinson.
:pouty: yea its starting to look ugly for the Vikings.
take it for what its worth, but i read an article yesterday that made it sound like the front office is looking to clean up the checkbook per say for the 2023 season, but thye figure after that they could be in it for a while after that!!!
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Sure curious to see how this all pans out.
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Yeah, we all now how GMs and salary capologists kick the can down the road to keep good players as long as they can - especially when they think they have an window of opportunity to make a deep playoff run or if they know their jobs are on the line - both were true for Spielman at the end.
So goodness knows how bad the Vikings cap situation is relative to the rest of the league. But Adofo-Mensah is going to have to clean it up - and maybe he is thinking the sooner the better - even if they have to take a step back for a season.
Lock up Jefferson - their brightest star. Get rid of the aging veterans. Let Kirk play the last year of his deal, and maybe try to get a good QB in the draft who can excel while he is still on a rookie deal, and then build the rest of the team using the cash they aren't paying Kirk.
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what i'm reading is the Vikes draft #23. thye dont or cant afford to trade draft picks to move up, so they say anyway. and they figure any of the 4 top qb's in the draft will probably be gone by then??
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The Minnesota Vikings have reportedly made a move involving Kirk Cousins, with NFL Network's Ian Rapoport saying they have working a "cap conversation" to Cousins' contract that will create additional cap space for 2023.
It's a potential indication that Minnesota is not going to give Cousins a contract extension, meaning he could be playing out the final year of his deal with Minnesota without any future guarantees.
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Sounds like kicking the can down the road. Or maybe posturing. :popcorn:
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They want to change some of his salary to bonuses so the cap isn't so high. He won't be a Viking more than 1 more year.
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They'd have to be "guaranteed" bonuses otherwise why would Kapt. K do that? :confused:
Sounds like a game of hide-the-sausage or whack-a-mole or some other loophole scheme, but either way, its fun to speculate about the Monopoly money these guys are playing with.
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:scratch: https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/3/14/23639879/vikings-convert-kirk-cousins-contract-to-create-16m-in-cap-space-what-it-means-and-wh :confused: Have they resigned Jefferson yet? He may want to wait now too :rolleyes: so he can see who's going to be throwing him the ball. :sad:
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More from BleacherReport... :Photography:
NFL Rumors: Kirk Cousins, Vikings Restructure Contract to Clear $16m in Cap Space (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10068810-nfl-rumors-kirk-cousins-vikings-restructure-contract-to-clear-16m-in-cap-space)
Minnesota entered Tuesday with the worst cap situation in the NFL, sitting $9.4 million over the line heading into 2023, per Spotrac. Cousins had a $36.25 million cap hit in the final year of his current contract.
The 34-year-old signed a one-year extension last season that featured two voidable years in the contract.
According to Mike Garafolo of NFL Network, the Vikings held contract extension talks with Cousins this offseason, but "nothing is imminent." The latest restructuring could indicate the two sides could not agree to a long-term deal.
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They just signed Bradbury to a new 15.75/3 yr deal today too. https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/vikings_bringing_back_center_garrett_bradbury_on_three_year_deal/s1_16715_38578791
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Bradbury played better last year. I hope he can stay healthy.
Now all they have to do is find a new defensive starting lineup. How many starters are they bringing back? 2 or 3? :confused:
I guess all things considered... The way they played the past 3 seasons, they probably shouldn't bring any of them back. :bonk:
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Not many.....still have Hunter, Hicks, Harrison Smith, a few Defensive backs that have been hurt.. Will be a complete remake including Coordinator.
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Yes we are thin at all levels of D. Need to fix that.
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Hey hey... Looks like Cousin Kirk is a team player after all !! :happybounce: :happybounce: :drinking:
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so what happened??
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so what happened??
they reworked his contract to give the Vikings 16 million of cap space. Not heard the finer details but they might be paying him yet when he's in the nursing home! :rotflmao:
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They just did some creative wording but Kirk is still getting every cent that he was getting before. Will just be playing with new lesser paid teammates.
Kirk thing is called a cap conversion. He will still get every cent. Somehow will make the teams cap situation look better.
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Theilen visiting Panthers.
Kicker Joseph has a new deal with the Vikings.
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The Minnesota Vikings have made arguably their biggest splash yet in free agency, swooping to land coveted cornerback Byron Murphy, formerly of the Arizona Cardinals.
The Vikings have signed Murphy on a 2-year deal worth around $22 million.
More moves expected today.
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:scratch:https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/3/14/23639879/vikings-convert-kirk-cousins-contract-to-create-16m-in-cap-space-what-it-means-
so what happened??
they reworked his contract to give the Vikings 16 million of cap space. Not heard the finer details but they might be paying him yet when he's in the nursing home! :rotflmao:
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/3/14/23639879/vikings-convert-kirk-cousins-contract-to-create-16m-in-cap-space-what-it-means- :scratch:
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They called it a Cap Conversion. He still gets all of his money but it is in a different category for the teams purposes so it doesn't count as much against the cap.
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There's speculation that the salary caps are going to increase in the coming years so there pushing a lot of that money out!
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Yeah, the other high-the-sausage thing from that article is that if they don't resign Kirk, then there will be a $28.5 Million in dead cap money. Kirk will have already gotten everything, but the Vikes will still be paying for it over time ala kick the can down the road. However, with NFL Monopoly Money - every team does that.
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There's speculation that the salary caps are going to increase in the coming years so there pushing a lot of that money out!
The only year it hasn't went up was 2021 & that's because of Covid, there was no 1 in the stands the year before. So every team's revenue went down.
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Vikings resign Matteson, never expected that. Makes me think Cook is gone!
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Good possibility.
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His cap # for this season is > $14 million & his dead cap #, if he's cut before 6/1 is > $8. Been some rumors of other teams asking about him too. So, they might be able to trade him, but he had shoulder surgery this off season & that probably decreases the chances of a trade for now. :scratch: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/vikings_bring_back_alexander_mattison_will_dalvin_cook_eventually_be_traded/s1_16715_38585774
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They said they are shopping Cook around and had an inquiry or two but no deals yet. Good guy but we need to cut some money.
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:scratch: Hurt & too expensive, I'm afraid they're probably stuck with him. At least, for 1 more year. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, rock and a hard place. Still, Cookie is one tough son of a gun to have played thru all that pain.
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He has good hands & is surprisingly fast for his size too. Just about every time he catches a screen pass he's a threat to score if he can make that 1st guy miss.
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His cap # for this season is > $14 million & his dead cap #, if he's cut before 6/1 is > $8.
So it costs 14M to keep him and 8M to cut him... But if they cut him, they have 6M to sign other players.
They signed Matteson, the heir apparent. They could draft a cheap back-up replacement and have probably 5.5M leftover to sign someone else.
Still, I want one more year of Cook. I'm thinking he still has something in the tank.
But if it is the question of having two #1 running backs or one #1 running back and a skilled veteran starter at another position of need - that is where the Vikings business decision comes in.
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Having $20 mil tied up in 2 RBs isn't something most NFL teams are willing to do very often these days either. :scratch: I read 1 pc that said they may try to run the ball a little more this season in an effort to help the D. According to them, that might be why they picked up the best run blocking TE in the league. Only 4 teams threw the ball more often than the Vikes last season & guess who they were..........KC, SD, Cinn, & TB. A lot of people believe that Cousins does play action best anyway. :confused:
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I read 1 pc that said they may try to run the ball a little more this season in an effort to help the D.
So why the heck DIDN'T the Vikes run more last year? :confused:
Wasn't KOC calling the plays? :scratch:
Didn't they already have Cookie and Matteson?!? :doah:
Didn't the D need more help last year too? :angry:
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:scratch: Because that was too much like the guy that was just fired & nobody liked??? :confused:
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I read 1 pc that said they may try to run the ball a little more this season in an effort to help the D.
So why the heck DIDN'T the Vikes run more last year? :confused:
Wasn't KOC calling the plays? :scratch:
Didn't they already have Cookie and Matteson?!? :doah:
Didn't the D need more help last year too? :angry:
look at all the close games.....and most times they were behind and pulled it off at the end!!!!! datz why!!!!!!! :happy1:
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:scratch: Because they have #18, might have something to do with it too. :rolleyes:
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I read 1 pc that said they may try to run the ball a little more this season in an effort to help the D.
So why the heck DIDN'T the Vikes run more last year? :confused:
Wasn't KOC calling the plays? :scratch:
Didn't they already have Cookie and Matteson?!? :doah:
Didn't the D need more help last year too? :angry:
look at all the close games.....and most times they were behind and pulled it off at the end!!!!! datz why!!!!!!! :happy1:
Good point... But what makes the Vikes think they will have more comfortable leads next year? :bonk: :bonk: :bonk:
They'll be passing the ball again next year til Kirk's arm falls off. God bless 'em, however, if they can run more early to make Play Action work more often.
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Good news. Harrison Smith took about a 6 million pay cut to stay with the Vikes. He had other teams that wanted him too.
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I seen that earlier too, but didn't read it to get the specifics. :happy1: :cool:
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Good news. Harrison Smith took about a 6 million pay cut to stay with the Vikes. He had other teams that wanted him too.
I shake my head with all this Monopoly money. :bonk: He took a $6 Million pay CUT, but will still receive at least $8M to stay.
There is WAY too much money in professional sports for anyone's good.
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Good news. Harrison Smith took about a 6 million pay cut to stay with the Vikes. He had other teams that wanted him too.
I shake my head with all this Monopoly money. :bonk: He took a $6 Million pay CUT, but will still receive at least $8M to stay.
There is WAY too much money in professional sports for anyone's good.
yea i definitely went intro the wrong line of work!!!!!!! :pouty: :pouty: :sleazy: :rotflmao:
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The NBA is worse, there's a lot of guys making right around $50 mil/year. :crazy:
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Not sure about him.....age catching up. Slower than he used to be.
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I hope he does good for one more year.
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I think he’s still has enough value to keep him around, especially with a pretty weak overall defense.
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I see they signed the #2 center to a new deal yday too.
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:happy1: https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/vikings-sign-former :cool:
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:happy1: https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/vikings-sign-former :cool:
I'm not impressed, but I don't know nuttin' 'bout football.
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With Tomlinson signing with the Browns they needed help at DT. Bullard also played a lot of minutes last season & he's a FA too. I read another pc that said because he was hurt & didn't play much last season it's a very team friendly deal. Even if he's not with the team next season, the overall costs of his deal aren't too bad. On top of all that, they got him from GB. :cool:
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:scratch: I see there's ~ a $3 million dead cap hit if he's not with the team next year which most probably consider very doable. Along with the $4.25 million/year for a guy that typically plays a lot of minutes sounds awfully good to me. :happy1:
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:scratch: I'd like to see 'em sign some more help on OL, our guards were pretty weak last season. Especially Cleveland, as he graded out as 1 of the worst at his position in the league for pass blocking. :pouty:
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5 biggest Vikings needs after the first wave of free agency in 2023 (https://thevikingage.com/2023/03/20/5-minnesota-vikings-needs-free-agency-2023/) (by some blogger... :scratch: )
1. Defensive Line
2. Wide Receiver
3. Cornerback
4. Inside Linebacker
5. Edge
I gotta disagree with this guy too. There is NO WAY wide receiver is the 2nd biggest need on this team. They need defense, defense, and MORE defense. :happy1:
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:scratch: McShay & Kiper have 'em going after a CB with their 1st pick https://www.vikings.com/news/2023-mock-nfl-draft-tracker-5 :confused:
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I saw a thing and it showed Theilen saying "now maybe I can win a Super Bowl." LOLOL
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:scratch: This LPS? https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/after_signing_with_panthers_thielen_says_he_didnt_want_to_leave_minnesota/s1_17017_38602143
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Yeah, I don't think it was so much a shot at the Vikings as it was comments intended to warm up to his new team.
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I agree.
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it was about the money......but i read it wasnt all that good !!!!!!!
now i read a blurb the Vikings are talking to Micole Hardman from the chiefs!!!!!
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Thielen was set to make $14.4 with the Vikings & will get $8.3 now.
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The big question is... what did the Vikings offering him to re-negotiate his deal again? I'm not sure if we ever saw that.
And for the record... I'm OK if we never know. If we don't find out, that means the Vikings organization, Adam Thielen, and his agent all bargained in good faith and did NOT leak any details to the so-called NFL "insiders" to try and gain leverage.
Am I curious? Yes. Is it my business? No.
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:scratch: If this is right, I'm not certain it ever even got that far Steve-0. :confused: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10068259-adam-thielen-released-from-vikings-contract-ahead-of-2023-nfl-free-agency
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:scratch: If this is right, I'm not certain it ever even got that far Steve-0. :confused: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10068259-adam-thielen-released-from-vikings-contract-ahead-of-2023-nfl-free-agency
Yeah, you're right. I remember reading that. So basically Thielen was a cap casualty. They had already re-worked his deal once, and so trying to push those dollars out any farther probably didn't make any sense. In order for it to work for the Vikings from a numbers standpoint - they must have decided to not insult him with a super low ball offer.
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:Clap: He'll be back when he's ready to retire IMO. They'll give him a 1 day contract so he can retire as a Viking. The Ring of Honor will follow after that & I could even see 'em retiring his # too, eventually. :cool:
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:scratch: New yday https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/21/vikings-mock-draft-espn-mel-kiper-jr-quentin-johnston/ :confused: They signed DT Bullard too.
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Vikings Agree to Terms with Linebacker Troy Reeder & Wide Receiver Brandon Powell (https://www.vikings.com/news/troy-reeder-brandon-powell-free-agency)
The Vikings on Wednesday announced they have agreed to terms with former Rams linebacker Troy Reeder and receiver Brandon Powell, who helped Los Angeles win Super Bowl LVI.
The deals reconnect Reeder and Powell with Vikings Head Coach Kevin O'Connell, who overlapped in L.A. with Reeder from 2020-21 and with Powell in 2021.
Time will tell if these guys will be starters for the Vikes, but they certainly add depth to two positions of need.
5 biggest Vikings needs after the first wave of free agency in 2023 (https://thevikingage.com/2023/03/20/5-minnesota-vikings-needs-free-agency-2023/) (by some blogger... :scratch: )
1. Defensive Line
2. Wide Receiver
3. Cornerback
4. Inside Linebacker
5. Edge
I gotta disagree with this guy too. There is NO WAY wide receiver is the 2nd biggest need on this team. They need defense, defense, and MORE defense. :happy1:
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Vikings Signing FB C.J. Ham To Two-Year Extension (https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-signing-fb-cj-ham-two-year-extension)
Ham, one of the best fullbacks in the league, will remain in Minnesota for a few more seasons.
:party3: :party3: :party3:
They always talk about Thielen's Minnesota-based back story, but they don't talk so much about C.J. Ham!
A native of Duluth, MN, Ham is a great underdog story. He played his college ball as a running back at D-III Augustana in South Dakota, also shining in track and field. In 2016, he was a tryout player at Vikings minicamp and impressed enough to earn a contract, spending his rookie season on Minnesota's practice squad. The following year, he switched his position to fullback, and he's been on the Vikings' roster ever since. :happy1:
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:happybounce: :party1:
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awesome sauce!!!!!!!! i also seen where they signed some blandon i think from the rams!!!!!
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:happy1: :happy1:
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awesome sauce!!!!!!!! i also seen where they signed some blandon i think from the rams!!!!!
:scratch: Steve-o's post before the C.J. Ham 1 mentions him :rolleyes:, & from what I gathered from reading the link, he's mostly a return guy. He's only caught 47 passes in 4 years but has almost 115 kick & punt returns.
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awesome sauce!!!!!!!! i also seen where they signed some blandon i think from the rams!!!!!
:scratch: Steve-o's post before the C.J. Ham 1 mentions him :rolleyes:, & from what I gathered from reading the link, he's mostly a return guy. He's only caught 47 passes in 4 years but has almost 115 kick & punt returns.
Hopefully, KOC's past experience with him leads him to think that he is on a trajectory to be a starter, or at least will add depth for the right price.
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Yeah, KOC knowing him is a plus but I'm not so certain about the starter's role. :scratch: I hope so, but I'm pretty sure 1 of our return guys coughed up the ball more than they liked last season, so I can see him adding value there right away. The LB has been mostly a Special Team's guy too, but it would be great to see Flores find a spot where he can get on the field more & help in the new D, as well.
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Shelley's gone, signed with the Raiders today. :pouty: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/former_vikings_cb_duke_shelley_signs_with_raiders/s1_16715_38614054
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Was just going to post that. That's too bad. He was a bright spot on our D last year.
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I just read that Cousins offered to take a discounted deal with the Vikes for an extension and the Vikes turned it down.
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Really. Bad sign for Captain Kirk.
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:scratch: He wanted a 3 year fully guaranteed deal but the Vikings didn't want to commit to that long. But according to this, they still could. https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/report-vikings-declined-discount-kirk-cousins-wanted-3-year-guarantee :confused:
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think there looking for the future at QB, cousin Kirks time here is numbered me thinks. :scratch:
i keep reading articles about the Vikings talking to Micole Hartman as an additional wide reciever. he was pretty good with KC!!!!!!
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:scratch: Just like your Inger story ;) :smiley:..........................you should get your facts straight. :doofus: https://www.si.com/nfl/falcons/news/aaron-rodgers-new-york-jets-trade-elijah-moore-sign-kansas-city-chiefs-mecole-hardman-georgia-browns-falcons-free-agency
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:scratch: Just like your Inger story ;) :smiley:..........................you should get your facts straight. :doofus: https://www.si.com/nfl/falcons/news/aaron-rodgers-new-york-jets-trade-elijah-moore-sign-kansas-city-chiefs-mecole-hardman-georgia-browns-falcons-free-agency
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: i just read something about Hardman this morning.......must be slow to update there gossip!!!!!!!
oh :tut: mu Inger story is spot on!!!!!!!! :mooning: :rotflmao:
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I'm not sure how many QBs have/are getting fully guaranteed contracts since Kapt. Kirk got is with the Vikings.
Bully for Adofo-Mensah for not overpaying for slightly above average QB performance - even if there are no replacement options immediately on the table. That is the thing about the NFL... Next man up. There is always someone younger, faster, bigger, stronger that is working harder to take your job from you.
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Well put SO. Yes he is good and pretty accurate but just doesn't have the "it" factor. Boring just doesn't get it done in the NFL. KO got Kirk to throw to JJ even when he was covered and it worked great. JJ caught most of those passes. Then the last 2 or 3 games Kirk went back to his wait till they are open passing and it all went down hill. He just doesn't have "it".
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From my layman view of things I like the Levis guy. See the arms on him? He is a tough guy with a good arm. Needs work of course but I like him. They said he may be able to do some wild cat plays the first year behind Kirk. He also is a good QB sneak at the goal line candidate.
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:scratch: Kiper & McShay both have the top 4 QBs all gone in the 1st 5 picks, as Arizona(# 3) is the only 1 out those that doesn't need a QB. Carolina, Texans, Colts, & Seahawks all want a QB. https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/ncaa-football-picks/2023-nfl-mock-draft-mel-kiper-predictions
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:scratch: CB or WR #1 for the Vikes is about all I've read. https://abc7.com/sports/2023-nfl-mock-draft-mike-tannenbaums-gm-first-round-picks/13033049/ Here's another https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-mock-drafts-2023-latest-mel-kiper-daniel-jeremiah-todd-mcshay-experts/dz2wzdq0izgglxayd0zmnsnj :confused:
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From my layman view of things I like the Levis guy. See the arms on him? He is a tough guy with a good arm. Needs work of course but I like him. They said he may be able to do some wild cat plays the first year behind Kirk. He also is a good QB sneak at the goal line candidate.
If they put Kirk's run-capable back-up in the game on 3rd and 1 from the goal line, can you actually call it a QB sneak if everyone knows what's coming? :scratch:
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Good point. :rotflmao:
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I'm not sure how many QBs have/are getting fully guaranteed contracts since Kapt. Kirk got is with the Vikings...
Spotrac.com NFL Salary Rankings (https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/guaranteed/)
Turns out this site will tell you how many guaranteed contracts there are if you sort on %GTD. It looks like there are only 128 fully guaranteed contracts in the NFL amongst about 2,000 players in the NFL.
There are 16 QBs on the list of 100% guaranteed contracts, and Washington's Jacoby Brissett is close at 93.75%. And guys like Baker Mayfield, Jamis Winston, Gardner Minshew, and Joshua Dobbs are all 100% guaranteed, but at less that $4 million.
Vikings with guaranteed contracts:
- Kirk Cousins - $35M (2023 is the last year of his deal)
- T.J. Hockenson - $19.8M
- Christian Darrisaw - $13.3M
- Jalen Reagor - $13.2M
- Justin Jefferson - $13.1 (That's goona go up this year)
- Lewis Cine - $11.5M
- Oli Udoh - $2.5M
There's a couple of other guys in the 90% guarantee range and the kicker Greg Joseph is at $1.7M guaranteed at 85%.
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From my layman view of things I like the Levis guy. See the arms on him? He is a tough guy with a good arm. Needs work of course but I like him. They said he may be able to do some wild cat plays the first year behind Kirk. He also is a good QB sneak at the goal line candidate.
If they put Kirk's run-capable back-up in the game on 3rd and 1 from the goal line, can you actually call it a QB sneak if everyone knows what's coming? :scratch:
maybe if they do it the Philadelphia Eagles style!!!!!! :happy1: :sleazy: :rotflmao:
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From my layman view of things I like the Levis guy. See the arms on him? He is a tough guy with a good arm. Needs work of course but I like him. They said he may be able to do some wild cat plays the first year behind Kirk. He also is a good QB sneak at the goal line candidate.
If they put Kirk's run-capable back-up in the game on 3rd and 1 from the goal line, can you actually call it a QB sneak if everyone knows what's coming? :scratch:
maybe if they do it the Philadelphia Eagles style!!!!!! :happy1: :sleazy: :rotflmao:
Don't remind me!
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Vikings Roundup
Irv Smith Jr. believes he could be missing piece to a Super Bowl for Bengals (https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/28/vikings-bengals-irv-smith-jr-super-bowl/) G'luck. :scratch:
Throw $#!T up on the wall and see what sticks. :coffee: The 6 Possible Trades in the Vikings Orbit Right Now (https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/the-6-possible-trades)
- 6. Lamar Jackson to MIN
- 5. Trey Lance to MIN
- 4. Trade Up in Draft for QB
- 3. Trade Za’Darius Smith Elsewhere
- 2. Trade Dalvin Cook Elsewhere
- 1. Trade Down from 23rd Draft Pick
NFC North free agency grades (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfc-north-free-agency-grades-assessing-the-bears-lions-packers-vikings-after-early-2023-offseason-moves/) :doah: Looks pretty accurate to me.
- Bears: A
- Detroit: A
- Packers: TBD (Pending the EErin Rodgers situation)
- Vikings: C+
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:crazy: because its April fools i aint buying into this on freakin bit. but there's an article out there that saying the Vikings and cousin kirk struck a new deal......... so it wont hurt the salary cap........now he gets some guaranteed money but his extension will get paid in Kohls cash!!!! :doofus: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I heard it was with Amazon and Walmart credits and he couldn't turn it down. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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:scratch: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/fair_to_worn_home_of_vikings_needs_280m_repairs/s1_17049_38654861 :confused: Some of those surplus tax dollars being spent there, most likely. :rolleyes:
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I read that too. So a 1 billion dollar stadium needs a quarter of a billion in repairs already. There was a mil or two of warranty repairs the second year too.
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That article didn't go into many details. I worry about what "worn" could mean from an architecture standpoint.
If that building is "Fair" to "Worn" after 8 years, seems to me there were serious flaws in the design.
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"Apparently, at the scouting combine there was some chatter, there was some noise, among people within the broader league structure, not the media, but people in the league about Cousins being traded to the 49ers. That was a hot topic at one point in Indianapolis," said Mike Florio. The segment was discussing 49ers QB Trey Lance needing a new start.
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More mud against the wall hoping something sticks.
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That has been brought up a number of times and with Cousins relationship with Shanahan seems like a possibility.
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:scratch: https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-host-mississippi-state-cb-101549237.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall :confused:
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so....when exactly is the draft??????? :doofus: all these mock draft articles are getting a little old and redundant!!!!!!! :doah:
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The 1st Rd is 3 weeks from tomorrow.
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Anyone remember Trea Wayne's??? Didn't know where to really put this, he's a former Viking but it involves hunting . Guess he retired, but he bought a bunch of land and turned it into a business. Called Home Grown Hunting. A heck of a story.
I'm sure on of my web searching friends here will hunt the article down a post it!! :nerd: :nerd:
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.vikings.com/news/trae-waynes-retirement-hunting&ved=2ahUKEwjG38iSj5b-AhVQjIkEHY1fAesQFnoECBIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1RLIM0Jr1_3EJyJdP4ohji. This one???
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.vikings.com/news/trae-waynes-retirement-hunting&ved=2ahUKEwjG38iSj5b-AhVQjIkEHY1fAesQFnoECBIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1RLIM0Jr1_3EJyJdP4ohji. This one???
:happy1: :happy1: datz it.......tanks boober!!!!!!!1 :happy1:
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Thats a cool article!
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Thats a cool article!
:happy1: :happy1: and it aint even in boaraneze!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Vikes sign a new corner back formerly of the Patriots.
5 Things to Know About New Vikings CB Joejuan Williams (https://www.vikings.com/news/joejuan-williams-cornerback-5-things-to-know)
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Same recipe as they've used on a few other FAs this offseason. Good guys who have played well almost all of their careers but were hurt last season & didn't play much. So, they're probably able to sign 'em at a bit of a discount. Belichick knows how to develope good young CBs too. :happy1:
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Most were pretty high draft picks too.
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:scratch: Haven't seen this anywhere else..........................so. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36290777/vikings-pick-5th-year-option-wr-justin-jefferson
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heard that on the news a bit ago
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ESPN's coverage of the 1st Rd of the draft starts @ 7 tomorrow night.
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Looking forward to it. I have gotten into parts of it the last few years.
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Numerous reports say the Vikings have done their homework on quarterbacks and Star Tribune insider Ben Goessling said Tuesday that the Vikings are "keen" on some of the big-name quarterbacks, including Anthony Richardson.
Goessling then went ahead and predicted the Vikings to move up to the 11th pick in a trade with the Titans to select Richardson. In theory it makes sense and Goessling noted that his mock is better described as an educated guess rather than throwing something at the wall and hoping it sticks.
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I read an article about his life then and now. I like the guy. Seems like a smart guy with unreal athletic abilities. Grew up with very little other than a good family.
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Heard another reporter/analyst say they personally preferred Hooker over Richardson.
Yeah, richardson has upside, but he was leary of small sample size, freak athlete QBs with accuracy problems. NFL benches are cluttered with guys like this because coaches think they can fix a guy's accuracy problems, but don't.
Sorry, but i cant remember whoes opinion that was.
Picking the best QB, or even one that will be a starter on a team for 10 years is always a crap shoot.
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Personally i thing all the vikes qb draft talk is smoke, but that is just my wild a$$ guess. If i had to bet money at them drafting a particular position, i'd go with wide reciever.
But knowing the Vikes, they'll trade down to get an extra pick somewhere.
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Well....draft starts in less that 3 hours. What will the Vikes do
1.Draft for need
2.Draft best player available.
1.Quarterback
2.Wide Receiver
3.Cornerback
4.Line
I think if it and he is available they will trade up into the top 10 to take a QB.
If they don't move up....they take a wide receiver.
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Lot's of predictions out there. Some are fun to read. Read one today that said if the Vikes can't make the QB thing happen that they take Quentin Johnson WR from TCU. Tall fast tough receiver that would compliment JJ real well. That would be fun to see.
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I read one must-be-living-in-mom's-basement blogger that had them making trades with Seattle to move up to 5 and take QB Stroud. :bonk:
I saw another guy, Peter Schrager - who at least writes for NFL.com - has the Vikes taking RB Bijan Robinson predicting "Bijan falls to MN and an already-good offensive team gets the best offensive player in this draft." That ALSO would be a VERY Vikings thing to do. :scratch:
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Well....Wide Receiver.....Good pick. Should look good opposite Jefferson. Still haven't address QB in 2024 though.
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The QB Levis who was projected to go in the top ten was still sitting when I went to bed after our pick. There was a .08 percent chance of that happening. I wonder why his clout dropped so much?
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The QB Levis who was projected to go in the top ten was still sitting when I went to bed after our pick. There was a .08 percent chance of that happening. I wonder why his clout dropped so much?
:scratch: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-here-s-why-will-levis-is-slipping-in-first-round-tonight/ar-AA1as9zV?ocid=msedgntp&cvid :confused:
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Thanks Gunner. Yes a big toe problem is a big problem.
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I think they wanted Richardson but he was taken to high by the Colts at number 5. Evidently it would have cost to much to trade up that high.
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Well....Wide Receiver.....Good pick. Should look good opposite Jefferson. Still haven't address QB in 2024 though.
He's not the biggest or the fastest, 5'11 & close to a 4.5 40 yd dash, so they must like the fact that he's already proven he can play in the slot or out wide. :scratch: He did win the Biletnikoff Award as a Junior though. Having him MIGHT make it easier for them to sign JJ to a long-term deal IMO too.
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Vikings don't have the usual # of picks this year, either. Pretty sure I read that they don't have a Rd 2 pick this year, so they might've traded that away in the Hockenson deal.
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Offensive got better. Defense still terrible. And they don't have a second rounder.
Although Sinse drafted number 1 last year basically didn't play last year after breaking his leg. So he is a number 1 they haven't used. Hope he can come back healthy.
Will the Vikes trade up into the second round and take Levis? Sore toe or not????
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They'd probably have to trade their 2024 1st rounder to do it.
BUT, if Levis is a bona fide franchise QB, AND the Vikes don't need him until next year...
Why wouldn't they? :confused:
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Yup, only 5 picks this year & 1 of those was awarded by the league for losing so many Free Agents, or a Compensatory pick. :rolleyes:
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Vikes will pick up Rodgers after he spends one year with the Jets. :fish2:
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:tut:
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Geez Roony... :tut:
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History repeats itself. I remember everybody stabbing Favre in the back until he became a Viking. Then he became the best thing since sliced bread. Just sayin'.
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He did have his best statistical season of his career with the Vikes. ;)
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Vikes will pick up Rodgers after he spends one year with the Jets. :fish2:
:scratch: & I'll turn into a Packer fan. :doah: ;) :rolleyes: :laugh:
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:scratch: https://www.vikings.com/news/2023-draft-picks-nfl-minnesota-vikings
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just read Joe Kapp.....the Vikings QB that took the team to the first ever super bowl passed away at 85. quess he dealt with demintia!!! and other issues presumably from football!!!
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heard that too RIP
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I really liked him. Tough guy. RIP Joe.
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Vikings trade Za’Darius Smith to Browns.
Vikes also give Browns a 6 and 7 draft pick. Vikes get two 5th round picks.
Good riddance to a mal content.
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Good move. Nice to get those picks too. No sense in keeping someone around if they don't want to be here. Now the Dalvin situation needs to be resolved. I read they were talking somewhere about Matison being our guy so what is Dalvin thinking about that. Too bad but we have paid him way too much for a RB. Sure a nice guy but we can't afford him.
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:scratch: :doah: he must of been a real PITA. i'd think he'd have more value then 2 5th round picks???????
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1.) he most likely wouldn’t have played for them
2.) they add needed picks
3.) they dump his contract so they can pay Addison and McBride
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I think its amazing how much highly skilled veterans AREN'T worth. Maybe his best years are behind him, but he is still good when he wants to be.
So the Browns get Smith and all we get back is to trade/exchange a 6th round pick for a 5th and a 7th round pick for another 5th. :doah: You'd think he'd be worth two 5th rounders straight up, but what do I know. :confused:
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I kind of thought that too. Must have just been glad to find a trade partner for him.
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:scratch: Thought I read where they're still responsible for some of his contract too, so............................................ :rolleyes: :confused:
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Media reports that the Vikings signed Addison on Wednesday. It’s a four-year deal worth over $13.73 million with a team option for a fifth season.
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That is a little more than Jefferson got for his rookie deal.
Now Jefferson is in the 4th year of his rookie deal, with a Vikings team option on the 5th and Jefferson - as one of the best receivers in the league - is looking to renegotiate.
I hope Addison pans out, Jefferson stays, and they find a long-term solution at QB. Is that too much to ask? :confused:
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With Kendricks now gone, I wish they would have drafted my nephew last year. Falcons took him and he already worked in to the starting position.#44 Troy Andersen
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he looks like a solid player!!! :happy1:
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The Vikings have added a receiver from the XFL.
Minnesota announced on Tuesday that the club has signed Dontavian “Lucky” Jackson.
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Hey anyone called "lucky" is worth a shot anyways.
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Really good stats in the XFL......5th in league in yds and TD's.
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I would love to see him come here and fit right in and have a great time!
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:scratch: Only 36 catches last season, so I wouldn't get your hopes up too much. He did have a big year, 94/1133, as a Senior in college though. Worth giving a shot, hard to be too deep at that spot. :cool:
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Doesn't look like Cook will be a Vike much longer. He has not been at organized practices. He can be cut in a week on June 1 and the team can save 9 million in CAP space.
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It's a brutal business.
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That's why nobody wanted to talk about a trade for him. The price tag will be quite a bit less after 6/1, he'll sign somewhere, that shoulder has been an issue a couple times in the last 3-4 seasons though.
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He has been practicing with some of the Miami guys this offseason.
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ouch just read that Ben Ellifson is retiring from the Vikings at age 26. he played at north dakota stats and was from Hawley Mn.
article said injuries are his reasons!!!!!
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Prolly a good decision for that young man. Different guys react differently to the accumulating wear and tear of football. Good for him to get out while the getting is good. He probably has a nice nest egg of a couple/few $Mil in the bank to get his life started, and if he invests wisely, ought to be all set.
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Nice to see a MN guy make it for a few years on the Vikes.
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One native MN, ND-grad leaves, another one arrives...
Vikings Sign rookie WR Garett Maag (https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/01/vikings-north-dakota-garett-maag-ben-ellefson/)
The Minnesota Vikings signed wide receiver Garett Maag out of North Dakota. The roster spot was made available with the retirement of tight end Ben Ellefson earlier in the day on Thursday.
Maag’s size at six-foot-four and 210 lbs. paired with his ability have made him a hot commodity since finishing his career as a Fighting Hawk. The former fifth-year senior was invited to multiple rookie camps including the New York Giants and Philadelphia Eagles.
He was listed by Fowler as a “sleeper to watch” before the draft due to his gaudy measurables at his pro day.
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The situation with Minnesota Vikings pass rusher Danielle Hunter is getting more complicated. According to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport, teams are calling about a potential trade for Hunter and they have been for some time.
He's still only 28 years old. But slightly injury prone. The best time to trade him would have been right before the draft. Only suppose to make about $5 million next season. Really affordable.
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Hawley Minn own......After retiring from the Minnesota Vikings as a player, former tight end Ben Ellefson isn’t leaving the team. According to head coach Kevin O’Connell, Ellefson will be moving into a hybrid role described as “some coaching, maybe scouting, maybe player engagement.”
I moved here after he graduated from HS here.
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It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they traded Hunter. He has sucked enough money from us. Especially two years fully paid and not playing. His output has really gone down too.
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Yeah, they always seem to forget that part when they want to renegotiate their deals. And way too many guys demanding trades in the NFL. Its turning into what they got in the NBA.
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What are the Vikings doing?
It’s a question many will be asking as the news spreads that running back Dalvin Cook will be released on Friday.
"It feels like just another day in purple purgatory, where being just good enough is always good enough, and where loyal fans will be lured to fill the stands and buy the merch not by the reality of a championship, run but by the consistently fleeting, false hope of one."
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Belichick would have traded Cook last year - while he still had some value. Vikes couldn't trade him this year because a) no one wanted his current contract and b) why give something to the Vikes for Cook when he will be available as a released free agent anyway.
As a fan, I love Cook and I'd like to see him be a Viking till the end. But RBs pretty much have the shortest shelf life of all NFL players. Being a "skilled" position, they want to be paid, but their window of maximum productivity is the smallest. Bottom line is the Vikes think they have someone who is almost as good for a lot less money.
Whether cook stays or goes this season won't be the reason they don't win a Superbowl (again). I haven't seen anything to believe they will be better on defense this year to make me feel good about their chances.
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Cutting him frees up money to give to Jefferson.
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Ya that's about it. That scares me too giving anyone that kind of money. Has it ever been a good thing, baseball, or football or B ball? When players got a mill or two raise cuz they did good was something that motivated them. BUT when they get some ungodly number like now it is just out of this world as to how anyone would react to all of the money in the world. There is no way I could handle that kind of money. LOL
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I somewhat get it as a player, there pro careers are pretty short. The risk of injury is high, can't blame them for trying to set themselves up for life.
On the other hand the owners are making plenty of cash on these talented athletes also, but agreeing to pay that kind of money in a contract is foolish, especially when they can just cut them loose.
What troubles me is both the player and owners agreed to these contracts and yet neither seems to want to hold up there end of the deal. :doofus:
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Ya that's about it. That scares me too giving anyone that kind of money. Has it ever been a good thing, baseball, or football or B ball? When players got a mill or two raise cuz they did good was something that motivated them. BUT when they get some ungodly number like now it is just out of this world as to how anyone would react to all of the money in the world. There is no way I could handle that kind of money. LOL
It is amazing to how many of them blow all that money and are broke when they are done playing.
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Yes that is just mid boggling how they can end up broke.
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When they sign them contracts. They should be assigned a financial planner and half of it should be put into safe investments.
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When they sign them contracts. They should be assigned a financial planner and half of it should be put into safe investments.
i heard at one-time that during the rookie camp these new rookies are required to go through some kind of financial planning courses. not sure if thats a fact though???????
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Yeah, the NFL has those classes for rookies - and probably other sports leagues too, but I think there is an expectation in certain families or certain circles, that when the Alpha hits it big, they are obliged to take care of the posse.
My wife was watching a documentary on Whitney Houston. Whitney's father passed out credit cards to many friends and hangers-on, which were all paid for by Whitney.
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Its official. :pouty:
Vikings officially release four-time Pro Bowl RB Dalvin Cook (https://www.nfl.com/news/vikings-officially-release-four-time-pro-bowl-rb-dalvin-cook)
"I hold Dalvin in the highest regard and am grateful for his contributions on and off the field. Dalvin is a tough, dynamic player and a respected leader by his teammates, which was evident by his multiple seasons as a team captain," head coach Kevin O'Connell said in a statement from the team's website. "As a finalist for the 2022 Art Rooney Sportsmanship Award, Dalvin's approach to the game and his commitment to sportsmanship is clearly respected across the league. We appreciate Dalvin's positivity, energy and leadership and will be pulling for him in the future."
Cook's impending departure was first reported by NFL Network Insider Tom Pelissero on Thursday, with Minnesota having one last day to find a trade suitor rather than lose the four-time Pro Bowler for nothing, but such a move did not come to fruition.
Instead, the Vikes have moved another veteran off the books in an exodus of an offseason that has already seen them release wide receiver Adam Thielen and trade pass rusher Za’Darius Smith. By releasing Cook after June 1, the team saves $9 million in cap space this season and $12.5 million the following year, with $5.1 million and $3.1 million in dead money the next two years, respectively.
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This article is a good read if you are looking for rationale why the Vikes released (or didn't release in the case of Harrison Smith) so many veteran fan favorites.
The Method to the Vikings’ Madness (https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/6/8/23753936/the-method-to-the-vikings-madness)
Adam Thielen turns 33 this year, was a $20 million salary cap hit, and among wide receivers with at least 90 targets last season, he was ranked 40th of 41 receivers in receiving grade according to PFF. The Vikings chose to release Thielen not just to save salary cap space, but also because they were looking to upgrade the WR2 position.
Eric Kendricks, 31, has seen his overall PFF grade decline from 90 and 82 in 2019 and 2020 respectively, to around 60 the last two seasons. His coverage grade has gone from 90 in 2020 to 45 last season. Kendricks’ salary cap hit was over $10 million this season and the Vikings see Brian Asamoah as ready to step up into a starting position. Releasing Kendricks made immediate sense.
Harrison Smith, 34, has also seen his performance decline, albeit not as much as Kendricks. He had a 68.1 overall PFF grade last season, which is above average, about ten points lower than the previous season. He was set to be a nearly $19 million salary cap this season, however. He was asked to take a pay cut, which he did, reducing his cap hit to just under $12 million. The Vikings have Josh Mettelus on the roster, who did well replacing Smith last season when he was injured, but with Lewis Cine’s recovery status and readiness still a question mark (at the time), the Vikings weren’t quite ready to move on from Smith at a reduced rate more commensurate with his recent performance. Smith had other offers he said but chose to stay with the Vikings. The deal makes sense for both sides as Smith may be in the last year of his career and $12 million is still a good deal for a 34 year-old safety.
The Cook explanation was more detailed, but it boiled down to this...
Cook was like an average home run hitter in baseball. He got the occasional home run, but most of the time he struck out or made an out in his at-bat. Mattison, by contrast, wasn’t as much of a home-run hitter as Cook, but his batting average and on-base percentage was higher than Cook’s. Kevin O’Connell mentioned more than once this off-season that he wants to be more efficient in the running game, particularly on early downs, staying ahead of the sticks and avoiding unfavorable 3rd and long situations. Mattison may be the better back in that role at this stage in their respective careers.
In any case, taking a $14 million salary cap hit for Cook this season didn’t make a lot of sense for a running back of his age and performance last season- especially if they can get similar or better production from a less expensive player on the roster.
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The Minnesota Vikings officially released running back Dalvin Cook on Friday after an unsuccessful last-ditch effort to trade the four-time Pro Bowl selection.
Makes sense. Apparently Cook would not take a cut like Smith did. Must feel he can get more than they were offering somewhere else
Third career of Viking's running backs behind Adrian Peterson and Robert Smith. Not a bad career here. But time to move on just like they did with Peterson.
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Not taking a pay cut was probably his way of saying good bye politely.
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As a Vikes fan, it is always interesting to see what the next team gives him and then to wait and see if it was worth it for them.
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Yes I am curious too. He and his agent can play the field too. They just said if he gets hired he may have to pay the Vikes back some money.
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chances are he'll end up on a team that will play the Vikings this coming season.........and shred them to pieces!!!!!! :doah: most former players do!!!!!!! :bonk: :bonk:
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Bigger contracts are required to cover the rising costs of dope, gold chains & tattoo's.
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etc. etc.
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Are the Vikings looking to "Tank It" this coming season so they can get a top 5-10 draft pick to be able to get a top QB selection. Is that part of the 4-5 year plan? Cousins has 1 year left. Adolfo Menhsa was part of that in Cleveland.
The deeper question is whether they were willing if not hoping to get rid of Cousins, too. Rumors flew at the Scouting Combine of a possible Cousins trade to the 49ers.
The question for the Vikings would have been who do they replace him with? They were drafting too low to get in position for one of the best young quarterbacks in the 2023 draft class, and the free-agency and trade options (other than Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson) would have resulted in another middle-of-the-pack, water-treading, just-good-enough-to-be-good-enough option, perhaps to give the Vikings a chance at another one-and-done playoff run. Or maybe, if they get lucky, a blowout loss in the divisional round.
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So happy to see Hunter getting shopped also! The quickest way to a Super Bowl contender is to be bad for a bit. CIN? JAC? BUF? Those teams were bad and got real good real fast.
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Teams realize if a guy don't want to play for em any more, mo sense in keepin him. Why waste a roster spot and $$$ on a guy who wants out? :confused:
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It is a nice quiet way for a player to move without saying a negative word about anyone.
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Seems like a pretty classy way to handle it on both sides. Hope he does well wherever he ends up, except of course, if he plays against the Vikings.
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:scratch: They better sign #18 to a new deal before they start to "Tank it" or he may not choose to stay around for the rebuild IMO. He'll get his $ no matter where he plays, so why wouldn't he want to win too? :confused:
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I have been wondering that too Gunner. He could pretty much play for anyone he wants with his hands. I doubt very much we will be a 13 win team this year but may win our division.
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I read more and more people think we should trade JJ whilst he is hot for a bunch of picks and save a ton of money. ????
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He has 2 years left on his rookie deal, so that goes through the 2024 season.
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i donr see the Vikings rebuilding just yet. JJ puts people in the seats!!!!!!!!! they were really strapped with the cap and needed to do what they did to get within it. i also dont think that is how the HC operates.........but i'm just another arm chair QB!!!! :doah:
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And a arm chair hunter and fisherman to
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And a arm chair hunter and fisherman to
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :tut: awe who hunts in a heated shack sitting in an easy boy rocker??????? :doah: :scratch: :rotflmao:
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Most of us! Some have evolved into the in smart age yet
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Most of us! Some have evolved into the in smart age yet
WUSSIES!!!!!!!!!!! :mooning: :mooning:
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Hunter is in the final year of his contract and is set to make $5.5 million this season. He has been looking for a new contract, but has not found any common ground with the Vikings this offseason. A report last week indicated teams have been calling with trade interest and a holdout from minicamp could help push the Vikings toward a decision to move Hunter to another club.
Whether they’re interested in moving on without Hunter or not, the Vikings can fine Hunter for each day of mandatory work that he misses.
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ESPN: Vikings' Danielle Hunter planning to skip minicamp (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/37841433/source-vikings-danielle-hunter-planning-skip-minicamp)
Skipping mandatory minicamp will subject him to mandatory fines of $16,459 for the first day and $32,920 for the second, according to the NFL's collective bargaining agreement with the NFL Players Association
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Don't quote me but I think he may have already lost $100,000 for not participating earlier.
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Don't quote me but I think he may have already lost $100,000 for not participating earlier.
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Don't quote me but I think he may have already lost $100,000 for not participating earlier.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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He is probably one of those guys who says he has to provide food for his family.
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Don't forget he played LB in a 3-4 defense last season, compared to DE in a 4-3, previously. A lot more pass coverage of TE's last season.
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Hunter might have made more money had he waited a year or two to renegotiate or extend. But if those injuries that sidelined him for a year and a half would have happened before his new contract - he might have made a lot less!
$72 million is a pretty good start for him and he stands to make quite a bit more money before his career is over. Time will tell if there is a team willing to risk paying a long term contract to a skilled, aging player who now has a history of injury.
Here is a decent article laying out both sides: The Difficulty with a Danielle Hunter Contract Extension (https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/6/12/23758751/the-difficulty-with-a-danielle-hunter-contract-extension)
The Danielle Hunter Side
Back in June 2018, Hunter agreed to a five-year, $72 million contract extension with an average annual value (AAV) of $14.4 million.
- On September 1st of that year, Khalil Mack signed a six-year, $141 million contract extension with an AAV of $23.5 million.
- Joey Bosa signed a five-year, $135 million deal with an AAV of $27 million back in 2020. And Hunter has better stats than Joey Bosa.
- Last year, 33 year-old Von Miller signed a six-year, $120 million deal with Buffalo.
- 26 year-old Bradley Chubb, who has no where near the pressure stats of Hunter, signed a five-year, $110 million extension.
All of the above likely puts the Hunter side firmly in the, “we’ve been vastly underpaid for eight seasons (including rookie contract) with the Vikings and we’re not going to get shafted again” negotiating stance.
The Vikings’ Side
The Vikings may be somewhat sympathetic to the fact that Hunter has been underpaid, and indeed they restructured his contract a few times (to create cap space) but which also advanced Hunter money on his contract. But Hunter also missed about a year and a half of that contract due to injury. Be that as it may, the Vikings’ new regime isn’t about to make Hunter whole for perceived losses on his last contract- which his agent negotiated, and he signed. The timing may have been inopportune for Hunter, but that’s not the Vikings’ fault.
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Stefon Diggs repeating behaviors in Buffalo that preceded trade from Vikings (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/stefon-diggs-repeating-behaviors-in-buffalo-that-preceded-trade-from-vikings)
History might be repeating...
Stefon Diggs was a no-show for the first day of mandatory minicamp with the Buffalo Bills on Tuesday and head coach Sean McDermott said he's "very concerned" about the developing situation. "Very concerned. Very concerned," McDermott repeated. "Right now, I'm not going to get into that any more."
After the Bills were knocked out of the playoffs in January by the Bengals, Diggs allegedly cleaned out his locker before coaches got into the locker room after the final whistle and then stormed out of the stadium. Diggs was also seen yelling at Bills quarterback Josh Allen during the second half of that game. "Want me to be okay with losing?" Diggs wrote in a series of tweets after the loss. "Nah. Want me to be okay with our level of play when it's not up to the standard? Nah. It's easy to criticize my reaction more than the result."
What's unfolded since has been nothing short of history repeating itself.
Diggs allegedly unfollowed the Bills on Instagram in April, which followed numerous mysterious tweets that have left people wondering what the 29-year-old's intentions were. That'll sound very familiar to Vikings fans. :surrender:
Before the Vikings traded Diggs to the Bills in early 2020, Diggs had created an unsettling situation by posting countless mysterious tweets and even going as far as to deny asking for a trade only to then say "there's truth to all rumors."
Why would Diggs skip minicamp now? Is it contract related? Probably not considering his average annual salary of $24 million makes him tied with DK Metcalf as the fifth highest-paid wide receiver in the NFL. Trading Diggs would be very difficult for the Bills because, as NFL Network's Tom Pelissero points out, Diggs's contract carries a significant cap hit. According to OverTheCap, his 2023 cap his is just over $13 million and the Bills currently are only $5.5 million under the cap.
Is Diggs done in Buffalo? If history is a sign of things to come, it's not good news for the Bills. Well, unless they trade Diggs and land a Justin Jefferson like the Vikings did with the first-round pick they got in the trade.
I hope JJ isn't taking notes. :undecided:
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:crazy: :crazy: what a diva!!!!!!!!!
i would of liked to see him play for bud grant!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Do you remember Ahmad Rashad? His name was originally Bobby More and he changed it to Ahmad Rashad in 1972 when he converted to Islam. Bud Grant could never figure out how to say "Ahmad" and always called him "Ock-mod." I always figured that was Bud's subtle expression of his disapproval or lack of acceptance and not his inability to pronounce "Ahmad."
Yes, I don't think ol' Bud would suffer today's divas. However, in the many interviews he did in his declining years, he did recognize that today's players were different and probably wouldn't respond to the old coaching styles.
Actually, Bud and Ahmad had a really good relationship and I heard an interview of Ahmad (probably after Bud died) that testified to it. He was talking about how no one was allowed to wear gloves in the cold, but he let Ahmad wear them because he figured Ahmad would perform better with them.
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Speaking of Bud Grant - also from Bring Me the News...
Not always the stoic Canadian who stalked the sidelines never smiling. ;)
Honoring Bud Grant: A legendary prankster (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/honoring-bud-grant-a-legendary-prankster)
https://youtu.be/JQFIttuc6Ic (https://youtu.be/JQFIttuc6Ic)
- For example he once had running back Teddy Brown fake arrested at practice.
- And when he was coaching the Blue Bombers, he had one of his players fake shot with a 22-pistol.
- And then there was the time that he stashed two dead birds in Sid Hartman's new convertible.
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So what is the Vikings strategy going forward????
They DO NOT see Cousins as their franchise QB that can win them a Super Bowl. Otherwise they would not let him be playing in the final year of his contract. They are looking to get a QB in next year's draft.
They are trying to build a Super Bowl offense for Kevin O'Connel. Just missing a QB. So they will look at trading up next year to get who they want. Plus the defense was 30th last year. So it basically can't get worse. Basically a middle of the road team looking for the right QB.
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I have a good friend born and raised in Winnipeg. He tells the story that, as a young man, he played in some kind of basketball pickup game with Bud Grant on the opposing team. At one point early in the game he attempted to block Bud and caught him off balance and Bud ended up on the floor. Bud gave him the look, and for the rest of the game he said he was elbowed, pushed, and had his feet stepped on. He says that by the end of the game he was completely worn out and pretty well bruised.
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There was also a pretty good trust relationship between Bud and Jim Marshall, who ran the locker room.
If a player needed to get in or out of the Mankato dorms after hours during training camp, they didn't do it without Jim's blessing.
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Its tough to be a Bears fan...
Another insane Justin Jefferson stat (https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/6/21/23769179/another-insane-justin-jefferson-stat-minnesota-vikings-chicago-bears)
Jefferson has been with the Vikes just three seasons and has 4,825 receiving yards. With 235 more receiving yards, Jefferson will have more career receiving yards than any receiver in the history of the Chicago Bears.
:blues brothers:
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Does Walter still hold the NFL single game rushing record set against the Vikings?
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How many yards was that and which game? Saw them all.
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Looks like he is 5th now with the kid beater being #1.
1 Adrian Peterson 296 MIN Minnesota Vikings vs. San Diego Chargers, November 4, 2007
2 Jamal Lewis 295 BAL Baltimore Ravens vs. Cleveland Browns, September 14, 2003
3 Jerome Harrison 286 CLE Cleveland Browns vs. Kansas City Chiefs, December 20, 2009
4 Corey Dillon 278 CIN Cincinnati Bengals vs. Denver Broncos, October 22, 2000
5 Walter Payton+ 275 CHI Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings, November 20, 1977
6 O.J. Simpson+ 273 BUF Buffalo Bills vs. Detroit Lions, November 25, 1976
7 Shaun Alexander 266 SEA Seattle Seahawks vs. Oakland Raiders, November 11, 2001
8 Jamaal Charles 259 KAN Kansas City Chiefs vs. Denver Broncos, January 3, 2010
9 Jonathan Taylor 253 IND Indianapolis Colts vs. Jacksonville Jaguars, January 3, 2021
DeMarco Murray 253 DAL Dallas Cowboys vs. St. Louis Rams, October 23, 2011
11 Doug Martin 251 TAM Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs. Oakland Raiders, November 4, 2012
Mike Anderson 251 DEN Denver Broncos vs. New Orleans Saints, December 3, 2000
13 Derrick Henry 250 TEN Tennessee Titans vs. Houston Texans, January 3, 2021
O.J. Simpson+ 250 BUF Buffalo Bills vs. New England Patriots, September 16, 1973
Spec Sanders 250 NYY New York Yankees vs. Chicago Rockets, October 24, 1947
16 Willie Ellison 247 RAM Los Angeles Rams vs. New Orleans Saints, December 5, 1971
17 Corey Dillon 246 CIN Cincinnati Bengals vs. Tennessee Oilers, December 4, 1997
18 LaDainian Tomlinson+ 243 SDG San Diego Chargers vs. Oakland Raiders, December 28, 2003
Cookie Gilchrist 243 BUF Buffalo Bills vs. New York Jets, December 8, 1963
20 Derrick Henry 238 TEN Tennessee Titans vs. Jacksonville Jaguars, December 6, 2018
21 Barry Sanders+ 237 DET Detroit Lions vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, November 13, 1994
Emmitt Smith+ 237 DAL Dallas Cowboys vs. Philadelphia Eagles, October 31, 1993
Jim Brown+ 237 CLE Cleveland Browns vs. P
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Fun to look at those old records.
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i seee a VIKINGS player made the news, and not for his charity work!!! :rotflmao: an OL, Oli Udoh was cited 3 times in a few days for speeding and reckless driving.
e's a big guy so maybe his feet are a bit heavy!!!!! :doah: :rolleyes: :rotflmao:
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Dalvin Cook STILL has an offer on the table from the Vikings worth about $7M that he is in no hurry to sign - with the Vikes OR the Fish.
Vikings Have Offer on the Table for 4-Time Pro Bowler (https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/dalvin-cook-miami-dolphins-offer-nfl/)
“There is a $7 million offer on the table for him to accept in Minnesota if he wants to go back — don’t think he wants to go back,” Esiason said, adding that Cook’s agent is trying to play the offer off other teams to drive a bidding war.
Dalvin Cook Still Has Offer on Table, But RB Unwilling to Accept, per Report (https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/07/11/dalvin-cook-still-offer-dolphins-unwilling-accept)
While the veteran has reportedly been offered multiple contracts since being released by Minnesota on June 8, one team remains at the forefront of discussions: the Dolphins. Although it was reported back on June 27 that Miami offered Cook a spot on the roster, ESPN’s Jeff Darlington reported that Cook is in no rush to accept the offer.
“The one thing I would point out is that the Dolphins remain interested,” Darlington said, via Bleacher Report. “They still have an offer on the table, one though that Cook is not willing to accept. I can see him certainly trying to draw up other leverage, he is still interested in joining the Dolphins. But at this point, again, not willing to commit to the deal they have on the table.”
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I think the Vikes need to start lowering the offer at regular intervals. That will kick his agent in the azz.
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That might have worked back in the days of Max Winter, Bud Grant, Ron Yary, Jim Marshall, etc., but I don't think that strategy flies with today's modern athletes and agents.
He ain't coming back here on a one-year deal - even if it is for 7M. If he gets hurt here in that year, is career is done and future earnings are shot.
The buzz says he's waiting til training camp - probably for some other starting running back to get hurt - and the demand and his price will go up.
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Wonder what Mattison is thinking about this, in his eyes he's getting most of the snaps going forward.
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It means nothing... :coffee: but still... :happy1:
Justin Jefferson Catch in Vikings-Bills Wins ESPY Award for 'Best Play' (https://www.vikings.com/news/justin-jefferson-catch-bills-espy-award-best-play)
The Vikings receiver was recognized Wednesday at the 2023 ESPN ESPY Awards, taking home the "Best Play" honor for his gravity-defying, 32-yard catch on fourth-and-18 at Buffalo last season.
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:tut: hey....... :tut: he gets an Espy trophy!!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
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Are any of you guys watching the Netflix miniseries "Quarterback" featuring Patrick Mahomes, Marcus Mariota, and our very own Kapt. Kirk?
(https://www.dexerto.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=3840,quality=75,format=auto/https://editors.dexerto.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/11/Quarterback.jpg)
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nope!!!!!!!!
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nope!!!!!!!!
X 2
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X3
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Really? :confused: It ain't that bad of a behind-the-scenes look at the past season from the QB perspective. :scratch:
I'm two episodes in and it is pretty good. I figured with baseball still on break, why not.
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I would definitely check it out but I aints got that kinda time. As a matter of fact our TV in the summer comes on bout news time, and goes off a couple hrs later. No retirement here...
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I haven't checked it out yet but will eventually to get my football fix.
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Can't care even a little bit about football when it's baseball season.
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Can't care even a little bit about football when it's baseball season.
who do you follow during baseball season Dutchy :scratch: Minnesota doesn't have a real pro baseball team!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :evil:
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It wouldn't almost be time for Vikings training camp without one of these... :bonk:
Vikings rookie Jordan Addison cited for reckless driving after going 140 mph: police (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/vikings-rookie-jordan-addison-cited-reckless-driving-going-140-mph-police)
Addison was driving a Lamborghini Urus on Interstate 94 around 3 am
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you got that right!!! drama round what??? :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Where does one even get that kind of mentality to do something like that???? What a loser. Put him in jail like they would do to me.
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Well, I guess I certainly could not be one to cast stones at him. I was young and dumb too. I just wasn't caught. :whistling:
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Thank yu jb, id put most nfl player s to shame if i listed my dumb stuff as a youth
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I never had a car that could do 140. Thankfully. :sleazy:
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broke the speedometer in my 63 Impala twice.. slowed down after that .. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:surrender: :scratch: maybe i'm not on the same page..........i never did care for high rates of speed in vehicles, 4 wheelers or snowmobiles. :shocked:
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We all thought we were invincible at that age. Difference is... We had no idea of what we stood to lose due to the consequences of the stupid stuff we did. :scratch:
P.S. If I had a Lamborghini, for sure I'd need to figure out what it could do. I just wouldn't do it in the middle of town. ;)
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I never had a car that could do 140. Thankfully. :sleazy:
My friends car did and I just had to try it out on a county road in the middle of the night.
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Hope he is that fast running a go route.
3 am is probably the safest time to try that with no one else on the road.
I'm impressed the cop was able to catch him at that speed.
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We all thought we were invincible at that age. Difference is... We had no idea of what we stood to lose due to the consequences of the stupid stuff we did. :scratch:
P.S. If I had a Lamborghini, for sure I'd need to figure out what it could do. I just wouldn't do it in the middle of town. ;)
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2nd that!!
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Hope he is that fast running a go route.
3 am is probably the safest time to try that with no one else on the road.
I'm impressed the cop was able to catch him at that speed.
Can't out run the radio... Good thing the young man was smart enough to pull over when he saw the flashing lights. It could have been a lot worse for him.
I saw a movie where James Bond ditched the Italian Police by racing his Lamborghini thru Naples, but I doubt Jordan Addison has the driving skills to escape St. Paul's Finest in Frogtown.
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We did it on country roads where there was not much traffic.
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Even James Bond would get caught now. We went on a bus tour of Europe a few years ago. Those countries now have cameras everywhere. They clock your speed. You don't get pulled over. You get a notice in the mail as a ticket and ordered to pay your fine or get your license suspended. We didn't see anyone speeding.
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Next step is they will be mounting the cameras in their homes.
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Next step is they will be mounting the cameras in their homes.
With Alexa and Siri, they already have microphones. Just sayin... :bonk:
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Next step is they will be mounting the cameras in their homes.
With Alexa and Siri, they already have microphones. Just sayin... :bonk:
The worst thing that we have is our smart phones. No Alexa.
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No Alexa here neither.
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https://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/2023/07/24
here ya are!!!
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all over the news ex Viking Everson Griffen was arrested over the weekend for a whiskey ticket........that feller has some issues. :surrender:
he was a hellofa football player in his time............maybe to many bumps to the ole noggin me thinks!!!1
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They signed a OT from the Rams, Evans, who is # 3 behind O'Neill & Snyder a OG that's listed as #2 behind Cleveland yday. They also brought in another TE/Thompson that doesn't even appear on the depth chart, so most likely a practice team guy.
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Vikings great Jim Marshall misses latest chance at Pro Football Hall of Fame (https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-vikings-jim-marshall-pro-football-hall-of-fame/600292861/)
The Hall's senior committee cut from 31 to 12 semifinalists for the three senior candidate spots for the Class of 2024, and Marshall was not on the list.
Marshall played in 282 consecutive games – a record for a defensive player by 58 games – made two Pro Bowls and was credited with 130.5 sacks before sacks became an official stat in 1982.
:angry2:
Here are the other guys that made the cut this year:
Roger Craig, the former 49er running back who ended his career with two seasons as a Viking, is among the final 12 up for consideration. Joining him are Ken Anderson, Maxie Baughan, Randy Gradishar, Joe Jacoby, Albert Lewis, Steve McMichael, Eddie Meador, Art Powell, Sterling Sharpe, Otis Taylor and Al Wistert.
I know there are lots of guys deserving, but c'mon, man. Marshall should be there. He was the original iron man, never missing a game. Hell, he was in the league so long, he started playing before they even kept close stats of who played and who didn't. Maybe he was also hurt by the fact that the Vikings never won the Superbowl (which shouldn't affect him, but it does) or maybe that he was the only player in NFL history to run back a fumble the wrong way for a safety. :bonk:
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Gives me no respect for the committee.
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Looking at the list of guys that did make it, I recognize Roger Craig, Ken Anderson, Randy Gradishar, Joe Jacoby, Steve McMichael, Sterling Sharp, and Otis Taylor - and only three of them are going to make it.
The NFL HOF is a very exclusive club and many deserving players are left out. Definitely not the case where every great player gets a HOF participation ribbon.
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just read the Vikings signed Hunter to a new 1 year deal and the Vikings agreed not to put the franchise tag on him next year.
now lets hope he can stay on the field!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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Good news. I hope he is happy and does well.
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I don't care what these guys do, it's to early for football. :mad1:
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The cooler weather this weekend sort of felt like early fall NFL weather.
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just read the Vikings signed Hunter to a new 1 year deal and the Vikings agreed not to put the franchise tag on him next year.
now lets hope he can stay on the field!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
Prolly the best possible outcome for a guy who isn't ready to retire. For sure he wants one more big contract and this is the best way to get it.
No one was going to pay him as one of the best rushers in the league since he is 3 years removed from playing at that level. He's got to prove he can still do it and stay healthy.
It is a good sign that the Vikes agreed to not franchise tag him next year. Players hate that so I think that reflects well on the organization.
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Making 17 million. Nice raise from 5 million.
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He better be playing his heart out after fleecing us like he has the last few years. Hoping Flores gets the most out of these guys and as a Viking optimist and proud Kool-Aid drinker I think we are going to see a fun season. :happy1: :happy1:
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:scratch: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/new-vikings-running-back-abram-smith-is-an-incredible-story/ar-AA1eNp3W
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HEY DUTCHY.............vikings pre-season game is this thursday at 7 pm iffin ya got the NFL network!!!!!! :happy1: :evil: :evil: :sleazy: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I think it is at 9:00 pm Glenn. Not sure how to handle that. Mayhaps recording it just in case I don't make it through all of it.
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I think it is at 9:00 pm Glenn. Not sure how to handle that. Mayhaps recording it just in case I don't make it through all of it.
since ithink there playing seatlle it it might be out there hence 9, and 7 pm central?????????? not sure though.
i just didnt want Dutchy to miss it!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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I think it is at 9:00 pm Glenn. Not sure how to handle that. Mayhaps recording it just in case I don't make it through all of it.
Recording a 9PM preseason game in case you don't make it all the way? :scratch:
I thought the purpose of preseason games was for catching a nap after the 1st half. :bonk:
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I think it is at 9:00 pm Glenn. Not sure how to handle that. Mayhaps recording it just in case I don't make it through all of it.
Recording a 9PM preseason game in case you don't make it all the way? :scratch:
I thought the purpose of preseason games was for catching a nap after the 1st half. :bonk:
or just as it starts!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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It looks like the Lions are signing Teddy Bridgewater.
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Vikings to wear patch, helmet decal to honor Bud Grant (https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/8/8/23825319/minnesota-vikings-patch-helmet-decal-honor-bud-grant)
(https://news.sportslogos.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/minnesota-vikings-uniform-patch-bud-grant-2023-750x422.jpg)
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Just thought I would check in. I am looking forward to seeing Mullens and Jaren Hall. Starts at 9 so we shall see how that all plays out. I suppose Dutchy is in bed taking a nap so he can watch it from start to finish. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:sleazy: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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is it over yet?? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: They do get old butt???
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I watched into the second quarter. Past my bed time so recorded the rest of it. Was 10-0 Vikes when I went to bed. Mullens was looking good. The team as a whole looked pretty good actually.
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Dutchy would rather watch the NBA or Soccer or even a Biden speech than a early season NFL preseason game.
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Here I thought you watched it till the end. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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No NFL Network here & don't care. Been reading some good things about an undrafted LB, Pace, out of Cincinnati getting some minutes with the #1 defense though. :cool: Not that big of a guy either.
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It was supposed to be on NFL network but just at the start they said find it on your local network. I did find it on 521 Ant. ??? It was a very grainy picture just like from and antenna.
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Dutchy would rather watch the NBA or Soccer or even a Biden speech than a early season NFL preseason game.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
LPS.........around here the local channel 9 had it on!!!!!!!! and dutchy missed Paul Allen doing the broadcast there!!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
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So, what did we learn from last night's game? That our 2nd stringers are about as good as Seattle's subs, and their 3rd teamers are better than ours? :confused:
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The first quarter or so Mullens and the team looked pretty good like I said. I guess after that it got ugly. I haven't watched that part. I was hoping Hall would look good too so we had a QB controversy.
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I'm still not sure what it mean... :scratch:
Danielle Hunter’s contract incentives are revealed (https://sports.yahoo.com/danielle-hunter-contract-incentives-revealed-165039706.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHCsWnLhqnphb7a5wsjnlvC41tQWZr-exuIH3Ux4lR_gaOY3PNlguFirdJJWUsmoop2CQ1rBOZ_FRVvFXXaTfNJNYtBAugVzINzv3tCTTvJsoGYmIbpRWxCP5_9_wqoZpdJPilgfYeVLsBoWRP9xvf-YtRNh2fxTj_ylTtAs3zbr)
When the Minnesota Vikings signed outside linebacker Danielle Hunter to a modified contract, there were $3 million in incentives. On Friday, The Star Tribune’s Ben Goessling reported those incentives, all of which are not likely to be earned.
11 sacks: $1 million
12.5 sacks: $2 million total
14 sacks: $3 million total
These are all numbers that Hunter can hit, as he has two seasons of 14.5 sacks in his career. The thing here that’s important for salary cap purposes is they are not likely to be earned, which means they don’t impact the 2023 salary cap number.
If the player didn’t hit the stat the incentive is based on the prior year, it doesn’t count towards that year’s salary cap. It will hit the next year’s salary cap if the player achieves the bonus.
This is Hunter betting on himself and the Vikings showing a willingness to reward their players for a good performance.
I just hope it means that he's happy, will play hard, do well, and the Vikes will figure out how to keep him as a cornerstone defensive player.
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I just hope he stays healthy enough to be on the field. :confused:
His history isnt all that good
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been seeing that the Vikings are "hosting" Kareem Hunt????? not so sure what i think about having him. wasnt he kinda a thug back in his KC days????? :surrender:
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I just read that he left without a deal and that the Colts may sign him. Hope so.
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:scratch: https://www.startribune.com/kevin-oconnell-says-kareem-hunt-visit-about-exploring-potential-fit-minnesota-vikings-backfield/ :confused:
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Dalvin Cook’s deal with Jets frees up $2 million for Vikings (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/dalvin-cooks-deal-with-jets-frees-up-2-million-for-vikings)
Dalvin Cook’s gain is Minnesota’s gain, too.
With Cook agreeing to terms on a one-year deal with a base value of $7 million, the Vikings will be able to close the books on Cook’s contract.
Cook had $2 million in fully-guaranteed base salary for 2023, subject to offset. The contract with the Jets offsets the full amount of the salary the Vikings would have owed Cook.
The Vikings plan to go forward with Alexander Mattison and Ty Chandler leading the way. They reported have interest in Kareem Hunt, which would diversify their backfield — and which would likely result in all three costing less than Cook would have cost in 2023.
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thing with Hunt they talked last year how he's really slowed down!!!!!!!
kinda like all you old guys!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :mooning: :evil:
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I sure hope Hunt is out of the picture now. Remember there is a video of him hitting a woman and knocking her down. Not sure if it was his girlfriend or what. We don't need him. I just read that this morning.
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Some starting running back is going to get hurt in preseason or early in the regular season and Hunt will catch on then. I do hope it ain't the Vikes, but the better you play, the more 2nd chances you get in the NFL.
It will be interesting to see what kind of a season Cookie has with Erin Rodgers at QB. Say what you will about Erin, he does have the ability to make other players better. (Even though he is just as likely to throw other under the bus to save his own face.) Still, I think there is the potential for Cook and Rodgers wo complement each other.
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I see Cook signed with Jets, no more purple for him I guess...
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Correct. Vikes don't get the Jet this year. Tough schedule though otherwise: Eagles, Chargers, Chief, 49ers, Bengals.
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not sure how much one can believe on these MSN feeds but seen today they had a Mike Davis, a running back, in town for a work out???? last week it was Kareem Hunt????
thought they were pretty set at running back?????????
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I don't get it neither Glenn.
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:pouty: Mattison has never carried the ball 135 times in a season & Chandler, the #2, has never even had 10 carries. Cook averaged almost 270 carries the last 4 seasons. Plus, the # 3 guy is hurt & the rookie has struggled in camp. In fact, Mattison is listed as questionable on their depth chart right now.
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That doesn't sound good.
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4 Vikings Players from 2022 Remain FAs after Dalvin Cook to NYJ (https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/from-2022-remain)
Among them... Cameron Dantzler (CB)
Dantzler has encountered a wild offseason — and not necessarily in a good way.
- He was surprisingly waived by the Vikings on March 10, later claimed by the Washington Commanders on March 13.
- On May 30th the Commanders also waived Dantzler, his second offseason waiver.
- The Buffalo Bills swooped in a week later and inked the young defender to a one-year agreement. Three weeks later, he was released with an injury designation.
As recently as November of last year, Dantzler was a sure-thing starter for the Vikings. That escalated quickly.
I guess that is one of the reasons why the Vikes had another historically bad defense last year. :thumbs:
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Very interesting. I wondered what the deal was with him. I thought he was doing fairly good.
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:scratch: Ran across this & thought some of you might like to read it. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-titans-joint-practice-recap-day-1-defenses-come-out-ahead/
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:scratch: Ran across this & thought some of you might like to read it. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-titans-joint-practice-recap-day-1-defenses-come-out-ahead/
That link didn't work for me. The article was gone. However, I found it on SI.com. Vikings-Titans Joint Practice Recap, Day 1: Defenses Come Out Ahead (https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-titans-joint-practice-recap-day-1-defenses-come-out-ahead)
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super bowl bound baby!!!!!!!!! :happy1:
right Dutchy!!!!!!!! :evil: :sleazy: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: Ran across this & thought some of you might like to read it. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-titans-joint-practice-recap-day-1-defenses-come-out-ahead/
That link didn't work for me. The article was gone. However, I found it on SI.com. Vikings-Titans Joint Practice Recap, Day 1: Defenses Come Out Ahead (https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-titans-joint-practice-recap-day-1-defenses-come-out-ahead)
:scratch: :confused:
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:scratch: Ran across this & thought some of you might like to read it. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-titans-joint-practice-recap-day-1-defenses-come-out-ahead/
That link didn't work for me. The article was gone. However, I found it on SI.com. Vikings-Titans Joint Practice Recap, Day 1: Defenses Come Out Ahead (https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-titans-joint-practice-recap-day-1-defenses-come-out-ahead)
:scratch: :confused:
I don't know how that MSN.com new page works for everyone else. But if the story you linked to wasn't available on "my" version of the MSN.com page, it took me to the main MSN page.
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Same here. :pouty:
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It does the same for me...............now, but it worked when I posted it because I tried it. The 1 I posted mentioned that both coaches warned their players that anyone fighting would be sitting down immediately though. So, that could possibly cost some guys looking to make the team a job.
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It seems those team fights are always a problem at joint practices.
No team wants to lose a player in preseason due to injury. No team ESPECIALLY wants to lose a player to injury because of a fight in a joint practice.
Save it for the game between the lines and the whistles.
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Case in point... No one was hurt - except maybe Bradbury's pride.
Watch: Garrett Bradbury thrown like he's a rag doll by Teari Tart (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/watch-garrett-bradbury-thrown-like-hes-a-rag-doll-by-teari-tart#:~:text=Bradbury%20stepped%20in%20to%20protect,drill%20earlier%20in%20the%20session.)
Minnesota and Tennessee practiced against each other on Wednesday and Thursday and the beef between Tart and Bradbury appears to have been gaining momentum ever since Tart knocked Justin Jefferson to the ground with a push from behind on Wednesday. Bradbury stepped in to protect Jefferson when it happened, and the tension boiled over Thursday when Tart allegedly threw a punch at Bradbury. That got Tart ejected from practice, but not before cameras caught Tart obliterating Bradbury in a drill earlier in the session.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/A8Jq8ywe7lM/sddefault.jpg?v=64def08e)
It was one play where Tart had the leverage on Bradbury, but boy do folks like to blow things out of proportion.
If the first-teamers do get to play any in the 2nd pre-season game, it will be interesting to see if Bradbury and Tart get to go against each other. training-087
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:scratch: https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/new-quarterback#:~:text=The%20Vikings%20signed%20XFL%20st :confused:
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Hopefully they won't need him to play, and if they do, that he is a late bloomer.
That is one of the facinating things about the NFL. There are so any incredible, skilled athletes out there, but so few can make it at the highest level in the NFL.
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I just read that the 49ers traded Trey Lance to the Cowboys for a 4th round pick. Darn I would have liked to see us work with him for a year and see how he did.
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And to think everything the 49ers gave up to get him. Its all water over the dam.
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Life goes on. The 49'ers are Super Bowl contenders year in and year out. If the kid wasn't going to play dump him and move on. The money doesn't matter as the NFL with their partnership with gambling are dripping money. The Lance contract is pocket change in the couch. If they win the Super Bowl the draft picks won't matter either.
As far as going to Dallas that will work well for Lance. He can learn while there with no media pressure. Jerry runs things at Jerry World and if he wants to deflect interest in players he does.
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I think there are a lot of teams that would have taken a chance on Lance if they knew it would only cost of 4th rounder. Getting a good deal is always about being at the right place a the right time.
I have to believe that the Vikes were in on those talks for Lance, 'cept they decided to sign XFL star quarterback Jordan Ta’amu instead.
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Roster trimming has started. With offensive line being a relative team weakness for several years running, you have to wonder what Belichick saw in this guy that the Vikings didn't. Still, at a time when they have to start dropping men off the roster, it is nice to see something coming back in return - even if it is only a 6th round pick.
The New England Patriots had offensive line depth on their mind Sunday. The Patriots acquired offensive lineman Vederian Lowe in a trade with the Minnesota Vikings. New England gave up a sixth-round pick to acquire Lowe.
The Vikings selected Lowe in the sixth round of the 2022 NFL Draft out of Illinois, where he was a four-year starter at left tackle and tied the school's record for career starts with 52. He appeared in four games for Minnesota as a tackle last season.
Other cuts...
The Vikings released linebackers Tanner Vallejo and Wilson Huber and offensive tackle Jarrid Williams. None of the three was considered to be close to making the roster, although Vallejo’s special teams prowess gave him the best chance.
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I think there are a lot of teams that would have taken a chance on Lance if they knew it would only cost of 4th rounder. Getting a good deal is always about being at the right place a the right time.
I have to believe that the Vikes were in on those talks for Lance, 'cept they decided to sign XFL star quarterback Jordan Ta’amu instead.
:scratch: Maybe they were & they thought that a 4th Rd pick was still too high. :confused: https://www.sneaksandcleats.com/2023/08/25/trey-lance-now-holds-this-unwanted-record-after-cowboys-acquire-ex-top-5-pick-
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I read that the Vikes like how Hall did in preseason and decided to stay with him instead of courting Lance.
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After all, the best ability to have....................................is availability.
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From Gunner's article.
"When you boil it down, the 49ers gave up more first-round picks for Lance (three) than wins they got from him (two)."
Too bad for Lance. A starting, run-threat QB who broke his ankle in the 2nd game of last season. If that doesn't happen, he has a completely different story in the NFL. For now he is just an answer to a trivia question about which team gave up so much for and got so little out of a 1st Round draft choice QB.
Maybe the 49ers didn't like the way his ankle healed, otherwise they might have tried to get more out of him.
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I hope he comes around and does well in the NFL.
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I hope he comes around and does well in the NFL.
Me too, just NOT in Dallas. JJ's a pc of :moon:, as far as I'm concerned. :angry2:
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Not much chance Jones will straighten him out enough to be a deep play-off threat. Whats it's been, 30 years since his ego got in the way and he fired Jimmy Johnson. He isn't nearly as smart a football mind as he thinks he is. I will give him props in that he knows how to make cash, lots of it.
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I don't think I'll ever have Jerry's problem with ego or money. Well, maybe ego, but definitely not money.
...Thing with guys like that is, if they don't win it "their way" it isn't worth winning. Jerry would rather spend the rest of his life trying and losing than sit in the back seat and have someone else do it for him. His money. His choice.
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:scratch: You'd think that the fans would get tired of that.....................eventually :rolleyes: & so would most decent HCs. :confused:
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I'm sure they do - just like you'd think the Vikings fans would get tired of never winning the big one. :bonk: :rotflmao:
And there are only 32 HC jobs in the NFL. You gotta grab the ring when it is reach. You never know when circumstances beyond your control will snatch it from you.
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Vikes still aren't satisfied with the RB situation... :scratch:
Vikings to sign ex-Dolphins RB Myles Gaskin, waive Jalen Reagor (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38289506/vikings-sign-ex-dolphins-rb-myles-gaskin-active-roster)
The Minnesota Vikings are signing running back Myles Gaskin, released Wednesday by the Miami Dolphins. Gaskin rushed for 80 yards on 13 carries last season for the Dolphins.
The Vikings waved former first-round draft pick Jalen Reagor. Reagor was mainly used as the Vikings' punt returner last season with 26 returns for 167 yards. The year before with the Eagles, he had 31 returns for 227 yards.
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Here is added significance for the Vikings cutting Reagor. This article is from Philly...
Vikings release Jalen Reagor, so no 4th-round pick for Eagles (https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/vikings-release-jalen-reagor-so-no-4th-round-pick-for-eagles/534128/)
The Vikings released former Eagles 1st-round pick Jalen Reagor Wednesday, which won’t be a surprise to anybody following his career.
But the real significance of the move is that it means the conditional draft pick the Eagles received from the Vikings when they shipped Reagor to Minnesota a year ago this week won’t convert from a 5th-round pick to a 4th-round pick.
According to terms of the trade, that 5th-round pick would convert to a 4th-round pick if Reagor met specific performance benchmarks. Reagor only caught eight passes for 104 yards with one touchdown in 2022. So unless Reagor re-signs with the Vikings and all of a sudden becomes a functional wide receiver, the Eagles will have received a 5th-round pick and 7th-round pick for a player they drafted 21st overall just two years earlier.
The Eagles got bit bad by drafting Reagor so high, BUT the Vikings ALSO gave up a 5th- and 7th-round pick for a guy who only gained 104 yards all season last year. :doah: :banghead:
Ya win some... Ya lose some. :coffee:
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Ooops. Double post.
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I wonder what is wrong with him? Is he just not very smart? Seems to be athletic.
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I wonder what is wrong with him? Is he just not very smart? Seems to be athletic.
Athletic? :scratch:
I think I could gain 167 yards in 26 punt return attempts (6.4 yards per). :embarrassed:
Well ok, no... We all know I'd be in the hospital after the first tackle, but you get my point. :azn:
Maybe he was like Cordarrelle Patterson and couldn't run routes. (Are those code words for "couldn't learn the playbook"? :confused: ) At least Cordarrelle was good at return kicks.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Not too smart.
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Vikings Agree to Terms with Tight End T.J. Hockenson on Contract Extension (https://www.vikings.com/news/tj-hockenson-contract-extension)
The Minnesota Vikings and tight end T.J. Hockenson have agreed on a long-term contract extension.
According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Hockenson's four-year, $68.5 million contract "resets the tight end market."
Hockenson's 26 receptions in his first four Vikings games set an NFL record for receptions by a tight end in his first four games with a team, and his 60 receptions over the final 10 weeks of 2022 trailed only Travis Kelce's 63 at the position.
(https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop/f_auto/vikings/swljyiju0imlycayrcdt.jpg)
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i had a conversation with my pal BOAR.........he wont be doing his usual goofed up football thing with the vikings this year. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rolleyes:
SOooo.......i've been thinkin!!!!!!! :sleazy: :sleazy: :smoking: i may do something. it will be the same rules/setup as he had.....just not sure the prizes yet???????
anyone got ideas??????? my thoughts are.......
1) 2 bucks to each weeks winner........a tie 1 buck each, or,
2) maybe some kind of fishing jig..............
they wont be real spendy since its 17 weeks..........and i'm on a limited income :shocked: and i already looked in the couch!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
i'm open to all suggestions.........we got about 10 1/2 days to decide.
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I love the game. The best part about it is it take three days to figure out who won each week. :bonk: :rotflmao:
What if - instead of weekly prizes ('cause you'd spend almost as much in postage as prizes) - you kept track of who won the contest each week. :woot:
Then, at the end of the season, for each week you win, you get y'er name thrown into a hat. Pull out the winner and they get a hat or a t-shirt or a lure or somethin' at the end of the year. :dancinred: It don't need to be much.
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Both good ideas. $8-10 each week just for the postage does get spendy. Fun as heck to have a game going though.
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oh i'd definitely wait till year end!!!!!!!.........and i'm thinking not big prizes.......that's why i suggested 2 bucks a week>>>
keep the ideas coming. :happy1:
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Yea ive been meaning to post this. I cant keep up anymore. This current job, has been a life style change and sausage making, and the game, winners, paxkaging, and shipping, it was just to time consuming and something had to give. Thanks glenn for taking the riegns. Ive thoufgt of the most wins at the end of the year.. good idea. I been trying to figure out a poker style game. Thanks again glenn
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I been trying to figure out a poker style game.
It would be hard to run on-line, but maybe this will give folks some ideas to riff off of...
- 10 guys. 13 Weeks. 52 cards.
- Every week each guy gets a different number, 0-9.
- Every game has 4 quarters. Add the cumulative scores for both teams every quarter, take the last digit from the total-total for every quarter, and the guy with the matching number gets a card. Deal out 4 cards per week.
- Next week, pass out 10 new numbers and deal out 4 new cards.
- After 13 weeks all the cards are gone. Some guys might have 3 cards, 5 cards, 12 cards, whatever.
- Best 5-card poker hand at the end of the 13 weeks wins.
I don't know you'd keep track of who gets what number every week or how to deal randomly and keep track of everyone's cards. And its a pretty slow burn, and a passive game, but maybe you can build on it.
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I been trying to figure out a poker style game.
It would be hard to run on-line, but maybe this will give folks some ideas to riff off of...
- 10 guys. 13 Weeks. 52 cards.
- Every week each guy gets a different number, 0-9.
- Every game has 4 quarters. Add the cumulative scores for both teams every quarter, take the last digit from the total-total for every quarter, and the guy with the matching number gets a card. Deal out 4 cards per week.
- Next week, pass out 10 new numbers and deal out 4 new cards.
- After 13 weeks all the cards are gone. Some guys might have 3 cards, 5 cards, 12 cards, whatever.
- Best 5-card poker hand at the end of the 13 weeks wins.
I don't know you'd keep track of who gets what number every week or how to deal randomly and keep track of everyone's cards. And its a pretty slow burn, and a passive game, but maybe you can build on it.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: nice idea but i aint got no time for that!!!!!!!!! :bonk: :rotflmao:
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yea with that full time job!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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HUH???? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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yea with that full time job!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:tut: :rotflmao: yea keeping my wife and dog in line is full time!!!!!!! :pouty: :happy1: :rotflmao:
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yea with that full time job!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:tut: :rotflmao: yea keeping my wife and dog in line is full time!!!!!!! :pouty: :happy1: :rotflmao:
we all know better than that!!!! she rules!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I been trying to figure out a poker style game.
It would be hard to run on-line, but maybe this will give folks some ideas to riff off of...
- 10 guys. 13 Weeks. 52 cards.
- Every week each guy gets a different number, 0-9.
- Every game has 4 quarters. Add the cumulative scores for both teams every quarter, take the last digit from the total-total for every quarter, and the guy with the matching number gets a card. Deal out 4 cards per week.
- Next week, pass out 10 new numbers and deal out 4 new cards.
- After 13 weeks all the cards are gone. Some guys might have 3 cards, 5 cards, 12 cards, whatever.
- Best 5-card poker hand at the end of the 13 weeks wins.
I don't know you'd keep track of who gets what number every week or how to deal randomly and keep track of everyone's cards. And its a pretty slow burn, and a passive game, but maybe you can build on it.
:scratch: Isn't that asking for a lot from a guy that has trouble counting to 7 when he's pickling & canning? :sleazy: :evil: ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Some more on Hockensons new deal. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/examining-the-details-of-t-j-hockenson-s-contract-extension/ar-AA1g3TtQ?ocid=msedg
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Unreal. All I ask is send me just one measly mill.
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:scratch: Would you keep them Fed Ex & UPS drivers busy? ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao:
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Man you have that right. LOL
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Unreal. All I ask is send me just one measly mill.
Food for thought... Stephen Strasburg was one of the best pitchers in baseball, but his 14 career was injury plagued. He signed a 7-year $245 million contract extension with the Washington Nationals in 2019, but had to retire this year due to injury. Insurance will probably pay out the remaining $105M on his contract, but for the $140 the Nationals already gave him...
Since that contract signing, however, Strasburg has only pitched 31 innings, or $4.5 million per inning!!! :doah:
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OKAY DOKEY..........i've made an executive decision regarding the weekly Vikings pool!!!!!!!
same rules as boars setup in the past. but i am going to ask for assistance to help keep this up to date and correct as i'm sometimes not around!!!!!!
the weekly winner will get $4.00. if a tie each gets $2.00. so thats a $68.00 investment!!!!!! and you can bet you biffy i'm gonna be out for blood!!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao: it'll get paid out at the end of the regular season. i decided to go this route so sending the winnings out would be cheaper.....and easier then say fishing jigs!!!!!
i'll also be doing the playoff pool when that starts!!!!!
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So first half score added to the final score?
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So first half score added to the final score?
yes sir!!!!!!! :happy1:
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Kyle Rudolph is going to retire & it will be as a Viking, on week 3.
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I saw that. Good guy and glad he can retire as a Vike.
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:scratch: What I read sounded like he may be doing some games for 1 of the networks. :cool:
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I noticed that game #2 is broadcast on Glenns favorite channel, Amazon.
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Curious to see how Baker Mayfield plays for Tampa on Sunday...
Browns decided to move on from him. I don't have a clue if Mayfield is a bad teammate or if he don't put the work in or what the rap on him might be.
He reminds me of Cousins. He ain't the best out there, but he is far from the worst. Put him in the right situation with the right people and he has the talent to win.
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I don't know much about him neither. I did like the commercials where him and his wife lived at the stadium. Pretty funny. Now that Det won I sure hope we can beat Baker and his new team.
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The more things don't change... The more things stay the same. :pouty:
Knee Jerk Reactions - Week 1 (https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/9/10/23867495/knee-jerk-reactions-week-1)
What went wrong?
Interior OL – stop me if you’ve heard this before. Bradbury went down early with a back injury early and the guards were terrible. Austin Schlottmann overall filled in decently. Cleveland was poor in pass protection, but decent in the run game. Ingram was a disaster in every possible way. He slapped the ball out of Cousins hands to cause the first turnover. He allowed pressure constantly in the passing game. Overall the Interior OL is likely going to stop this team from being a contender and today is exhibit A.
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Play Calling – The offense was so predictable. The same old TE screens to lose yards and kill the drive were in play. The final two drives were three and out and combined for 6 total yards. Both of those drives started off with negative TE screens to TJ Hockenson. I enjoy TJ too, but he’s not who I want a quick screen to go to. JJ and Addison need to see those opportunities, not the easiest player to tackle on the field.
Couldn't have said it any different myself. SO tired of watching receivers run routes 2 or 3 yards short of the line to gain on 3rd down. :bonk:
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Are the fans the only ones that see the need to improve the O line? That should have been priority number 1 in my eyes. Will be the challenge all year it seems.
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And I don't know how they're goona be able to fix it. I don't think they can upgrade the OL until they know what their budget is for receiver and QB.
They just gave a boatload of money to TJ Hockenson. By all accounts, they'll need to break the bank to sign JJ. And they don't have a franchise QB locked up.
My guess is they will try to get JJ done at the end of the year. Tank next year with Nick Mullins or some other transition guy as QB. And then move up to draft the best QB they can in 2025.
Unless, of coarse, they end up in the dumpster this year and can move up to draft Kirk's replacement sooner. ;)
They won a boatload of close games last year by getting good bounces and making plays when they needed them. Yesterday, not so much.
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I just read that O lineman Risner still wants to play for the Vikes.
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The price for JJ's new deal likely went up last week with the figures that were in the new deal that SF gave Bosa. https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/9/9/23865792/the-bosa-extension-has-thrown-a-wrench-in-the-vikings-contract-negotiatio I hope Mullens is ready to play because Cousins won't make it 1/2 way through the season without getting hurt if interior of the O-line doesn't get it together. :pouty: :thumbs:
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If JJ wants history-making, record-breaking, new bar-setting money, trade him this year while he still has 2 years on his rookie deal and top-end trade value. Show me a blueprint where teams win consistently when the receiver is the highest player on the team.
It can work for a couple of years IF you get lucky and draft a franchise QB, have him perform like a top-10 franchise QB from year 1, and have him locked up for 5 years on a rookie deal, but the Vikes ain't got none of that.
On the flip side... in recent years teams have made dramatic turn-arounds by amassing draft capital and JJ might be the best trade bait the Vikes have to get the resources they need to draft a franchise QB next year. Might even have some left over to improve the OL.
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:tut: No way do they trade him IMO. Only if it is a Herschel Walker/Trey Lance draft day type trade & I'll believe that when I see it. :crazy:
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Yup it has to be a big advantage to us.
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The Herschel Walker fleecing will likely never occur again, but maybe similar to the Bradford-Goff trade: Bradford for Goff + 2021 3rd rounder + 2022 1st rounder + 2023 1st rounder
Good for Rams, they won the Superbowl. Good for Lions, they got the building blocks they needed.
It might just be the MN Fan in me coming out, but I think the Vikes are more like the Lions than the Rams. They could use a few more basic building blocks before they are ready to go all-in. :surrender:
If JJ is what another team needs to win the Superbowl this year (or next) and they are willing to give up something close to that price, I think the Vikes gotta take it. Especially given the amount of money JJ seems to be demanding on a team where the window of opportunity for winning a Superbowl really isn't wide open.
They just have to keep if out of social media if they are considering such offers.
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You mean Stafford in that deal.
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I like your thinking Steve-o, after watching a bad pass (not in jj's) direction and watching his reaction to not getting ball and besides him sitting on the bench after the game while the rest of the team shook hands just reminds me of the other deva that we shipped off to Buffalo. It's early yet but let's watch and see...
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I didn't like that neither. Pretty close to pouting. He can get on a Super Bowl contender if he works it right. He may be thinking that.
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Think we are going to see a whole lot more of JJ pouting with this Addison! :surrender:
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Not a good way to ease into retirement. You can’t even get sick pay.
Take it easy and heal up fast.
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Oops. Wrong thread.
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Think we are going to see a whole lot more of JJ pouting with this Addison! :surrender:
A good Addison will only make things easier for Jefferson.
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Think we are going to see a whole lot more of JJ pouting with this Addison! :surrender:
A good Addison will only make things easier for Jefferson.
i totally agree but its taking the limelight away from JJ, i get the idea after that past few years ole JJ aint gonna like it!!!!!
guess we shall see down the road!!!!1
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Hard to know how things will turn out. I'm sure JJ will show Addison the ropes. We MN fans are a finicky bunch. We love to see the great plays, not so much the hold-out-for-more-money attitude. Players HAVE to adopt that "its just business" attitude when their teammates try to maximize their earnings. Fans don't.
We'll see if this is a trend...
Stefon Diggs was all that and more. Wanted more money. Wanted to play for a winner. Out he goes.
Enter JJ. He's all that and more too. Wants more money than anyone. Wants to play for a winner. We'll see if either happens.
Enter Addison. Seems to have all the tools he needs to succeed in the NFL if he wants to put in the work. We'll see if he does.
Seems like high power college programs are minting top flight receivers at a high rate now. The best college athletes see a path to success in the NFL and they ARE putting in the work. As long as there is a steady stream of guys into the league, it will eventually put a cap on what teams are willing to pay the best receivers - especially when QBs still demand the most money and linemen are needed to protect them.
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:scratch: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10089010-vikings-justin-jefferson-i-dont-care-about-my-contract-i-want-to-win-games Under team control through the 25-26 season for $42 mil total, that's a steal. :confused:
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He does say all the right things. He is leaving it up to his agent. One game in, he is focused on the field. He ain't wrong when he says, ""I mean, I'm in a different situation. I've done something that no one has ever done in the history of the game. So, my situation is a little bit different than everybody else's."
It makes sense for both parties to get to that 2nd contract before the 4th and 5th year, but not if his asking price prohibits the team from signing a QB or paying offensive linemen. If JJ gets hurt before that contract gets signed, he's out big money.
Still, I need to take my purple sunglasses off. I'd probably do just what JJ and his agent are doing. Yeah, I'd respectfully listen to the Vikings contract extension offers. But at the end of the day, JJ is a WR#1, and he needs a QB to throw him the ball. If the Vikes don't sign one next year, who knows how many years it will be before they get another top-10 thrower. If the Vikes don't get that figured out, I think I'd finish off my rookie deal and go to free agency in two years.
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thing is if JJ can get s new deal............it usually means more$$$$$ before his rookie contract is up!!!!!!
and he aint :bs:'ing me.........its all about the money!!!!!!! :tut: :surrender:
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thing is if JJ can get s new deal............it usually means more$$$$$ before his rookie contract is up!!!!!!
and he aint :bs:'ing me.........its all about the money!!!!!!! :tut: :surrender:
:scratch: Well, it must be true then.........................because we all know you ARE an EXPERT on :bs:. :doah: ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: He's already making more money off the field than on. https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=169&q=justin+jefferson+endorsement+deals.&cvid=a9fc997105ed4db7abaa666fd532ef92&a
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thing is if JJ can get s new deal............it usually means more$$$$$ before his rookie contract is up!!!!!!
and he aint :bs:'ing me.........its all about the money!!!!!!! :tut: :surrender:
:scratch: Well, it must be true then.........................because we all know you ARE an EXPERT on :bs:. :doah: ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :mooning: :mooning: AND i learned it from the best.........all you guys here!!!!!!! :mooning: :sleazy: :happy1: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: He's already making more money off the field than on. https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=169&q=justin+jefferson+endorsement+deals.&cvid=a9fc997105ed4db7abaa666fd532ef92&a
I don't know if JJ is doing the same thing Gronk did, but didn't Grock sock away all of his NFL earnings as investments and use his endorsements for maintaining his lifestyle? (Or maybe it was the other way around.)
Either way, JJ ain't livin' check to check. Hate to see it when these guys end up broke after their playing days are over.
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Yup, try to impress their home boys and they help blow the whole wad. Family can do that too if you let them.
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Now that Rogers is toast.....how about Vikes trading Cousins to the Jets for their first round pick. Since Rogers's trade for a first round pick is based on him playing 60% snaps and he won't be.....Jets have their pick back again.
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Yup, try to impress their home boys and they help blow the whole wad. Family can do that too if you let them.
Thing is... it just isn't NFL players or pro athletes. So many lottery winners also end up bankrupt as well. When someone who doesn't know how to handle wealth gets more money than they know what to do with, it seldom ends well. At least the NFL does a good job - now - of coaching rookies on money management.
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Warning: If you are going to the Vikes game do not wear Vikes clothing. Don't jump up and cheer or the thugs in that shethole of a town will follow you to the parking lot and kick your butt. Isn't that just disgusting? I wouldn't go if I was given free tickets. There is so much crime there I wonder if they even have any law enforcement.
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The city of brotherly love.
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Another prime example of the NFL looking the other way from criminal activity when there is skads of money to be made.
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Good thing we don't have any crime in the Twin Cities :fish2: :fish2:
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Warning: If you are going to the Vikes game do not wear Vikes clothing. Don't jump up and cheer or the thugs in that shethole of a town will follow you to the parking lot and kick your butt. Isn't that just disgusting? I wouldn't go if I was given free tickets. There is so much crime there I wonder if they even have any law enforcement.
My brother has lived in Philly for many moons. Everything it's advertised to be and more. :doah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_0wFh-ceRU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_0wFh-ceRU)
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Good thing we don't have any crime in the Twin Cities :fish2: :fish2:
Twin Cities has plenty of crime, and its getting worse. But last time I checked, Vikings fans at U.S. Bank stadium doesn't have systemic issues with criminally assaulting fans from other cities: not even Green Bay. ;) Point is, the NFL COULD step in to clean it up, but they don't want to piss of the fan base in a market that gives them a lot of money.
This from a Philly city magazine: Eagles Fans Behaving Badly: The Decade-by-Decade History (https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/01/20/eagles-fans-bad-behavior/)
The FOX affiliate in Minneapolis recently likened us to a street gang, which wouldn’t be such a devastating comparison if it weren’t so damn accurate.
“Philly fans don’t scream for a win; they’re out for serious blood,” Dallas Morning News reporter Richard Justice wrote years ago when describing Veterans Stadium, the now-infamous former home of the Eagles from 1971 to 2003. This culture of depravity extends back generations – predating the Kennedy assassination! – and while the miscreants represent but only a small corner of the Birds Nest, their actions are often so unforgivable that they become the stuff of legend...
...In any event, the bottom line is games aren’t nearly as unruly as they used to be. And that’s a good thing. But foe beware, because this is still Philadelphia and men like Taylor Hendricks will always be in attendance on Sundays.
The rest of the article in-between is worth a read. They don't focus on all the personal assaults on visiting fans, but more on the otherwise stupid, notorious stuff that happened. Taylor Hendricks was a guy who got thrown out of a game because he was too drunk. On the way to the hoosegow he punched a police horse.
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The Vikings are 0-1 because of this? :huh: :angry: :embarrassed:
Vikings were tipping defensive signals in loss to Bucs, Baker Mayfield says (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/vikings-were-tipping-defensive-signals-loss-bucs-baker-mayfield-says)
Mayfield was more diplomatic in after the game, but Buccaneers running back Rachaad White was a bit more boastful... :doah:
"'White said of Mayfield, via ESPN. "He's like, 'I know all these signals. If they do this, they going to Cover 2, they do this, they're going to Cover 3. Every time I alert this, they drop and they do this signal, they drop him back to this.' And I'm like, 'Wow, that's amazing.'"
"When it comes down to that, you're always trying to find tendencies in the defense – just those in-game adjustments [where] you're trying to find those tendencies. Sometimes it's a little different than others," Mayfield added.
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Then why is it they only beat the Vikings by 3???? :scratch:
After some research I seen the Vikings game is on KSTP, our channel 9. :happy1: iffin I don't get I nap I won't make halftime. :rotflmao:
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Then why is it they only beat the Vikings by 3???? :scratch:
Because they didn't have to beat us by any more than that. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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with the way they / he blabbered they should of scored 40 more. :crazy:
how bout dem vikings tonight.......cant hold onto the ball and there running through our defense like we have no front d line!!
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:surrender: :surrender: :surrender: ni-nite!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty:
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Another game that we gave away.
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Philly is supposed to have the great offensive line, but that ground and pound drive they had... :doah: Looks like they didn't add enough horses to the defense.
And the Vikes only had 28 rush yards all game!!! :embarrassed: No wonder they were looking high and low - working out running backs half-way thru training camp.
So far they look like the EXACT same Vikings team as last year 'cept they don't have Dalvin Cook and they are losing the 1-score games instead of winning them. :scratch: And in typical MN sports team fashion - they play down (Tampa) or up (Philly) to their competition.
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Glenn lasted longer than I did. I don't think the outcome was ever in doubt. I watched the Eagles march down the field running the ball like they were playing against high school kids. At that point I was done. Cousins may throw the ball 2,000 times this year.
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And every time Cousins gets hit - and its gonna be a lot - the broadcaster are going to remind us of his grimacing-in-pain scenes from the Netflix Quarterbacks show.
By the end of the year ol' Kapt Kirk will be glad he didn't sign a long term deal with this team that is inept at building an above average offensive line.
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Just 2 games in & this season is ALL BUT OVER. :pouty: From ESPN's recap of the game: UH-OH & 2
Since 1990, 270 teams began a season 0-2. Only 31 of those advanced to the postseason (11.5%). Minnesota was a playoff team last year after a 13-4 regular season.
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Just 2 games in & this season is ALL BUT OVER. :pouty: From ESPN's recap of the game: UH-OH & 2
Since 1990, 270 teams began a season 0-2. Only 31 of those advanced to the postseason (11.5%). Minnesota was a playoff team last year after a 13-4 regular season.
what do they know? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: they'll get the boat turned around!!!!!!!!!! :sleazy: :sleazy:
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:scratch: BOAT????? I thought that was the Rodents!!!!!1 :nerd: ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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Is the Vikes season over?????Historically only 10% of the teams that have started 0-2 have made the playoffs. And the schedule is not easy. If so and they haven't signed Cousins to a contract beyond this season.....should they trade him???? :confused: :confused: :confused:
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You only had to say the word... ;)
The Vikings have started 0-2, so cue the 'Kirk Cousins to the New York Jets' frenzy (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/the-vikings-have-started-0-2-so-cue-the-kirk-cousins-to-the-new-york-jets-frenzy)
It's been five days since Aaron Rodgers tore his Achilles and 12 hours since Kirk Cousins and the Minnesota Vikings fell to 0-2 with a 34-28 loss to the Eagles. That combo has led to intense speculation about the New York Jets trading for Cousins.
Is it crazy? It depends on how you analyze the situation.
Right now, the Vikings are 0-2 but know damn well they could be 2-0 if not for seven turnovers in two games. Take away the turnovers and the Vikings look like a formidable team in the NFC. Trading Cousins now makes no sense unless the front office is hell bent on picking as high as possible in the 2024 NFL Draft.
But Cousins isn't signed beyond this season, so would Minnesota entertain the idea of trading their QB for draft capital to get their future quarterback in the loaded 2024 class? Again, right now it doesn't make much sense but that could change in the coming weeks.
On ESPN's "Get Up" Friday morning, the entire first segment was spent talking about the idea of the Jets trading for Cousins. One of the panelists, former NFL linebacker Bart Scott, is all about the Jets going after the Vikings' signal caller.
"If you want to make this happen, if you really want to make this happen, you gotta throw that [first-round pick] in," Scott said. "They won't turn it down."
Hold up. Cousins has a no-trade clause and might turn it down.
I'm pretty sure "Get Up" is a New York City-based show. :bonk:
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Any network (ESPN) that employed Skip Bayless can't be taken seriously about anything. He's the biggest fraud on TV since Jim & Tammy Baker.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: I have always wondered how he got his job. I could care less what he thinks.
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:pouty: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-lose-tackle-oli-udoh-to-season-ending-quad-injury/ar-AA1gN7gF
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Just what we didn't need.
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Bears, Lions, Packers all lost today. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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Bears, Lions, Packers all lost today. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
yep Vikes are only 1 game outta first!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :banghead: :banghead:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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:pouty: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/vikings-lose-tackle-oli-udoh-to-season-ending-quad-injury/ar-AA1gN7gF
Doubtful there are any legit replacement options out there - otherwise they'd probably have jobs already.
Teams too often "bet on the come" - assuming players will always be better next season than they were in the last. Brian O’Neill is doing his job and they need Darrisaw to be healthy, but everything in the middle is not making the grade, and it is clear there is no depth.
Bradbury had a similar injury last year. If the offseason wasn't enough to heal him up, he may have the misfortune of having an abbreviated NFL career. I which him the best either way.
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I wonder what the scoop was with the O lineman that they interviewed a few weeks ago. Risner I think. Better start kissing his behind so he comes back. As I have said before, everyone knows our O line is weak and nothing is done about it. Can't they see that?
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Sure they do, but you have to remember, the Vikes had the LEAST cap space of any team going into last year's offseason.
Adofo-Mensah is still recovering from the Spielman era. That takes time. No team wants to admit they are rebuilding - they always say they can compete with just a few tweaks. We'll see. A lot will depend on what happens this season. I still think the best thing is to tank (I mean) bottom out, get a top 5 draft choice, trade JJ for more assets, and start the process of being a contender again in two or three years.
I know I'm playing checkers with my armchair quarterback takes. For Vikings fan's sake, let's hope Adofo-Mensah is playing chess.
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I agree completely.
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I believe I heard them say during the Gophers game that their O line is bigger than the Vikes O line
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Report: Vikings Signing Top Free Agent Guard Dalton Risner (https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/report-vikings-signing-top-free-agent-guard-dalton-risner)
The Vikings originally hosted Risner for a visit at their facility on August 1st. Just last week, he was responding to Vikings fans on social media, saying he was ready to go. Now, after starting 0-2, GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah made the call and got a deal done.
Risner, 28, presumably isn't coming to Minnesota on that kind of contract to be a backup. He figures to compete for a starting job at either guard spot — and perhaps enter the lineup as soon as Sunday's game against the Chargers. Risner has exclusively played left guard during his NFL career thus far, so he could be a candidate to replace Ezra Cleveland, who is in a contract year. The Vikings' bigger weakness may be with second-year right guard Ed Ingram, though, and Risner has the theoretical flexibility to play there as well.
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Looking forward to it. My only question is why someone else hasn't hired him?
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Vikings Sign OG Dalton Risner to One-Year, $4 Million Deal (https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/9/18/23879679/vikings-sign-og-dalton-risner-to-one-year-4-million-deal)
If I were Kirk Cousins, I might have written out that check myself... just sayin' :happy1:
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:scratch: So, does he take Ingram's spot at LG or does he play RG, his normal position, & they move Cleveland to the other side. :confused:
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For 4 mil, he must be pretty good. If I were big n fat I'd do it for half that!
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For 4 mil, he must be pretty good. If I were big n fat I'd do it for half that!
:rotflmao: nope Glenn don't say it. :sleazy: :evil: :rotflmao:
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I think it is 2 mil guaranteed with incentives that could make it 4. ???
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For 4 mil, he must be pretty good. If I were big n fat I'd do it for half that!
:rotflmao: nope Glenn don't say it. :sleazy: :evil: :rotflmao:
I thought the same Glenn when I posted it, short n fat don't cut it...lol.
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I think it is 2 mil guaranteed with incentives that could make it 4. ???
:scratch: Pretty close, I'd think the incentives are fairly easy to reach too, if he stays healthy. https://sports.yahoo.com/contract-details-dalton-risner-revealed-212548503.html
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Interesting article on Fields right after that too.
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Interesting article on Fields right after that too.
'To open the season, against the Packers, he let it all hang out. He missed wide-open opportunities, his footwork was sloppy and his decision-making was terrible. The same inhibitions reared their ugly heads last Sunday.
And one former NFL quarterback, Dan Orlovsky, pinpointed all of Fields' problems into two frightening possibilities.
"Justin, right now, looks like one of two things," Orlovsky said on The Pat McAfee Show. "He either can't see the field and can't read defenses. Or, he has absolutely zero trust and belief in what he's looking at."'
Who does that description of Fields remind you of...? :confused:
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After Fields had some success last year, I was worried that Chicago - with all their recent high draft picks - would be a legit threat. But 'da Bears are 'da Bears
:blues brothers: and until you see it happen, there ain't much to worry about. Kinda like the Lions, too. ;)
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Good comparison. :happy1:
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Rams trade Cam Akers to Vikings for swap of 2026 late-round draft picks (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/rams-trade-cam-akers-to-vikings-for-swap-of-2026-late-round-draft-picks/)
The Rams have traded Cam Akers to the Vikings. The deal reportedly involves a swap of 2026 late-round picks.
A former second-round pick, Akers helped the Rams win the Super Bowl during his second season after recovering from an Achilles injury that was sustained during the summer. He rushed for a career-high 786 yards and seven touchdowns last year despite asking for a trade during the first half of the season. Akers had just 29 yards and a touchdown on 22 carries during the Rams' Week 1 loss to the Seahawks.
In Minnesota, Akers will join a Vikings rushing attack that is last in the NFL through two weeks. Akers will reunite with Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell, who was the Rams offensive coordinator during Akers' first two seasons.
Boy, if that doesn't' sound like a sweetheart deal between Sean McVay and Kevin O'Connell. The Vikes get a disgruntled running back - hopefully with some gas left in the tank - and all they need to do is swap late round draft pics 3 years from now. :confused:
Sometimes I am amazed at what NFL players are NOT worth in trade scenarios.
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I'm not alone. :happy1: :rotflmao:
:bow: Gronk predicts Vikings trade Cousins, tank for Caleb Williams with Sunday loss (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/gronk-predicts-vikings-trade-cousins-tank-for-caleb-williams-with-sunday-loss)
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interesting at the least....
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Yes interesting for sure. Almost makes a loss exciting. lol
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The Athletic is reporting the Vikings have traded with the Rams for RB Cam Akers.
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I'm not alone. :happy1: :rotflmao:
:bow: Gronk predicts Vikings trade Cousins, tank for Caleb Williams with Sunday loss (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/gronk-predicts-vikings-trade-cousins-tank-for-caleb-williams-with-sunday-loss)
:scratch:...................... :rolleyes:........................ :laughroll:
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:doofus: what does Grink know :scratch: he's been bonked on the head to many times!!!!!!!! :mooning: :happy1: :rotflmao:
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Actually I will believe it when I see it. Cousins is about the only part of the team that is doing fairly well. Yes I did say that. LOL
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IMO He'd be a much better QB if he could scramble.
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:doofus: what does Grink know :scratch: he's been bonked on the head to many times!!!!!!!! :mooning: :happy1: :rotflmao:
:scratch: Who is Grink? :confused: :nerd: :evil: :laugh: :laugh:
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The guy who stole Christmas?
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IMO He'd be a much better QB if he could scramble.
I agree. Cousins is a skilled QB and he proved that again last season by winning close games with come-from-behind victories while getting killed in the pocket. They didn't win the playoff game last year, but it wasn't because of Kirk.
He seems to have always been a middle-of-the-pack guy who breaks into the upper third (Top 10) often enough, but never is considered among the elite QBs in any given season (Top 5). He might never be the best, but you could do a lot worse at the QB position.
Still Washington Redskins were unwilling to commit to him long term, and now, after having him in the building for 5 years, the Vikings are unwilling to extend him. Or maybe because of their cap situation, they can't afford to sign him long term. Maybe the Vikes are forcing themselves into the position where they need to have a QB on a rookie deal while they take the time they need to dissolve the salary cap legacy left by Spielman.
Yeah, I know you can't blame Spielman forever, but the Vikes still have to play the cards he left them. And right now, Cousins is a card they can discard for more flexibility next season. And who knows, maybe they WILL work something out with Kapt. Kirk at the end of this season.
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The guy who stole Christmas?
This? :oscar:
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:bonk: :bonk: :banghead: training-087 i just gave the Vikings a new name!!!!!! the Minnesota fumblerooskies!!!!!!! :confused:
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IMO He'd be a much better QB if he could scramble.
I agree. Cousins is a skilled QB and he proved that again last season by winning close games with come-from-behind victories while getting killed in the pocket. They didn't win the playoff game last year, but it wasn't because of Kirk.
He seems to have always been a middle-of-the-pack guy who breaks into the upper third (Top 10) often enough, but never is considered among the elite QBs in any given season (Top 5). He might never be the best, but you could do a lot worse at the QB position.
Still Washington Redskins were unwilling to commit to him long term, and now, after having him in the building for 5 years, the Vikings are unwilling to extend him. Or maybe because of their cap situation, they can't afford to sign him long term. Maybe the Vikes are forcing themselves into the position where they need to have a QB on a rookie deal while they take the time they need to dissolve the salary cap legacy left by Spielman.
Yeah, I know you can't blame Spielman forever, but the Vikes still have to play the cards he left them. And right now, Cousins is a card they can discard for more flexibility next season. And who knows, maybe they WILL work something out with Kapt. Kirk at the end of this season.
Kirk leveraged his time into Minnesota by forcing Washington to hang the franchise on him not once but twice. He has done a very nice job for himself both on the field and paycheck wise.
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i see a 3 - 14 record in the horizon!!!!!!!!!!! :pouty: they suck!!!!!!!! :confused:
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:crazy: :crazy: the Chargers literally gave the Vikings the game........ some pretty horsecrap coaching and QB play at the end. time management sucked!!!!!! :crazy:
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My first thought was WTH is that Charger coach thinking on going for it on 4th down deep in there own zone late in the game, oh ya were playing the Vikes he probably thought....pathetic. good thing it hunting season I say.
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WTH was that????? :banghead: They only get 1 play off when they had 26 seconds left. :thumbs: :doah: That's on KO'C, he still calls the signals on the O. :sad: Best thing about it is I now have more time to watch baseball. :rolleyes:
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My first thought was WTH is that Charger coach thinking on going for it on 4th down deep in there own zone late in the game, oh ya were playing the Vikes he probably thought....pathetic. good thing it hunting season I say.
Staley has done this stuff a bunch. He is a numbers geek and gone on 4th down often. The difference is had they failed today and gone to 0-3 he would have been fired. There was no excuse to go from your own 24 yard line leading in the game.
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I was watching a Vikings blog and they had a video of Kapt. Kirk 'splaining the losses.
Turnovers costly again as Vikings fall to Chargers, drop to 0-3 (https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/24/minnesota-vikings-lose-los-angeles-chargers-0-3-start/)
The thing I thought was hilariously ironic was the Kidde Security backdrop they had behind him. :rotflmao: :bonk:
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The rumor mongers are out and will probably only be more vocal leading up to the Oct 31 trade deadline: Why a Jets trade for Vikings QB Kirk Cousins makes sense for both teams in sinking seasons (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/nate-davis/2023/09/25/kirk-cousins-trade-new-york-jets-minnesota-vikings-quarterback/70958461007/)
Personally, I don't think it will happen. Both teams are in a hole, but from the Vikes perspective, they aren't out of it. Yeah, they're two games behind the Packers and Lions, but I think the Vikings would tell you they think they are better than both of them - despite their current record.
As for the Jets, I can't believe they would give up much for a one-year rental - especially to a guy who is joining mid-season.
I think both team will take their lumps this year and re-asses at the end of the season.
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:scratch: :scratch: if there going to be better that defensive backfield best got it together. there a porous as a noodle stainer!!!!! :surrender: :confused: :banghead:
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Kirk had a no trade clause so would take a lot of money to get him to move. I don't think he would want to go to the Jets.
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Vikings' first-round draft in 2022 looks worse by the week in 2023 (https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-vikings-2022-first-round-draft-lewis-cine/600308579/)
The Vikings traded down from the 12th to 32nd pick in the first round and took safety Lewis Cine. He's been seldom seen on the field while most players taken between the 13th pick and Cine have started every game this season.
Cine has no career starts, only two snaps on defense and is the Vikings' No. 5 safety behind Theo Jackson, a sixth-round pick of the Titans last year.
The Ravens, meanwhile, drafted safety Kyle Hamilton 14th. The Bengals drafted safety Daxton Hill 31st. Week 3 saw these two gentlemen post a combined 17 tackles, four for losses, a pass defense, and four sacks while playing 100% of 139 defensive snaps. Hamilton had three sacks and was blitzing his way to a fourth before batting down a pass.
Twenty players came off the board after the Vikings traded down in 2022. Those players now have 238 starts (11.9 per player), including 12 in the playoffs and two in the Super Bowl for the defending champion Chiefs.
Thirteen of those 20 players have started every game this season; seventeen have started at least one game.
Adofo-Mensah has known since draft night '22 that this trade would become memorable one way or the other.
Hindsight also has been unkind. The past two weeks alone have served reminders that perhaps critics were right to suggest Adofo-Mensah would have found much better value by simply sitting tight with the 12th pick and selecting either the guy who was picked 13th (Davis) or the guy who was picked 14th (Hamilton), among others.
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Fairness in savagry...
Cine did suffer a broken leg, which kept him out last season, but still...
You'd a hoped that he'd be back this year and making an impact. He is out this week with a hamstring injury.
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Wasted drafts both years. It is obvious whilst watching every game.
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think i figured out iffin i dont watch........they win!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Hey, yer right. #MeToo
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think i figured out iffin i dont watch........they win!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
:scratch: :doah: Been tryin to tell you that for 2 years!!! ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Oh yeah, nice game .................................#22!! :cool:
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The Vikings front office should create a position on the staff for me and Glenn to NOT watch the games. :happy1:
What's a win in the NFL worth? :confused:
They pay Kapt. Kirk $2.65 million per game to throw the ball to the other team once or twice every game... :doah:
You'd think they'd be willing to pay ol' Glenn and I a couple $100K each per year to not watch games as extra insurance for victories. :azn: :rotflmao:
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The Vikings front office should create a position on the staff for me and Glenn to NOT watch the games. :happy1:
What's a win in the NFL worth? :confused:
They pay Kapt. Kirk $2.65 million per game to throw the ball to the other team once or twice every game... :doah:
You'd think they'd be willing to pay ol' Glenn and I a couple $100K each per year to not watch games as extra insurance for victories. :azn: :rotflmao:
I'm in!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
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Read an article earlier about JJ not signing an offer the Vikings made to him reportedly making his the highest paid player and he declined.
The article said he's waiting to see what the QB situation will be in particular with Cousins.
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Can you blame him? He could end up with a 3rd string guy throwing him the ball. Then where are his stats?
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Read an article earlier about JJ not signing an offer the Vikings made to him reportedly making his the highest paid player and he declined.
The article said he's waiting to see what the QB situation will be in particular with Cousins.
:confused: :scratch: So.......................they offered him more than Burrow's $55 mil/yr? :sleazy: :nerd: :evil: ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
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Can you blame him? He could end up with a 3rd string guy throwing him the ball. Then where are his stats?
:pouty: I'm not the least bit surprised either, db. :doah: I started trying to tell all the Cousins haters that this was a very real possibility last season. :rolleyes: Then again, when they couldn't get a deal done with Cousins to start this year. :thumbs:
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I was one of the Cousins haters but have mellowed now. Yes he lacks in movement but he is sure accurate when he has time. We may be begging him to return for another year by the time this is all done.
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Read an article earlier about JJ not signing an offer the Vikings made to him reportedly making his the highest paid player and he declined.
The article said he's waiting to see what the QB situation will be in particular with Cousins.
:confused: :scratch: So.......................they offered him more than Burrow's $55 mil/yr? :sleazy: :nerd: :evil: ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
:scratch: i cant say with 100% certainty..but i know he was going to be rewarded as one of the highest paid......maybe at wide reciever.
it was like 4-5 hours after i read the article that i posted it so i may have forgot some of the finer details!!!!!!!!! :doah: :pouty:
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Can you blame him? He could end up with a 3rd string guy throwing him the ball. Then where are his stats?
totally agree!!!!!!!! :happy1:
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Nothin wrong with wantin it all when y'er young, I guess... :scratch:
I want to be the best.
I want to make the most.
I want to win a ring.
That is why I was thinking before... If Cousins ain't QB Plan A, and you don't have Plan B, trade JJ for a king's ransom to the first team who will give you one, so you have the assets to go out and get Plan B and an offensive line to protect him.
P.S. There ain't no "I" in "TEAM" :doofus:
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That sure sounds like a likely scenario. He's not going to hang around here when he can be on a Super Bowl team next season.
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I see that the Chiefs are favored by 5 and the OU is 53.5. That is a high OU. So what's with the Chiefs only beating the Jets by 3 last week? Is Mahones ankle bothering him.
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So what's with the Chiefs only beating the Jets by 3 last week?
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AHA!!! I should have known. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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That sure sounds like a likely scenario. He's not going to hang around here when he can be on a Super Bowl team next season.
:scratch: If it's a trade he doesn't like he just threatens &/or actually does sit out & leaves as a FA. He then goes where he wants & the Vikings get nothing. :doah:
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The Vikes still have the 5th year option on a first round drafted player, yes?
But if there was a player who would break the mold and sit out a whole year, it would be JJ (or Stefon Diggs :bonk:).
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:scratch: If he sits out a whole year & he won't, we might be looking for a new GM & HC IMO too.
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Adofo-Mensa is still finding his way, but the Wilfs are loyal owners. They'll give him more rope.
And KOC (Not to be confused with Glenn, the KOD) seems to be a pretty good coach. You might like every call he makes or can find ways to blame him for bad decisions at the end of halves, but on the whole, unless you could get Tony Dungy, I don't know who else you would want to put in that spot.
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:scratch: Seen this https://www.fox9.com/sports/vikings-qb-kirk-cousins-takes-family-to-twins-playoff-game & thought it was kind of :cool:.
I thought I'd copy Gunner's post to the Vikings thread and ask this....
Yeah, pretty much everything you see about Kirk points out what a good guy he is. IF the Vikings can only figure out how to sign either Kirk Cousins or Justin Jefferson, which one would you want them to keep? :popcorn:
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Based on the article I read the other day JJ signs a long term deal if Capn Kirk stays.
So I'd guess both.
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And as usual the O line dictates how good both of them are.
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Yup and yup.
Trouble is, JJ wants to reset the bar for WR1 salaries, up until now Kapt. Kirk has been unwilling to take a haircut and give the Vikes the home town discount, and they STILL need to upgrade their O line.
It beats me how all that will fit under the cap. But for now, The Vikes have time. Time to see if Kirk can still perform at a high level despite the teams other deficiencies. Time to see how many games they are going to lose and find out how high their draft pick will be. And time to see how JJ plays his cards the rest of the season. A lot can happen between now and then.
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:pouty: :doofus: :doah: i just read the vikings signed former row da boat QB Tanner Morgan!!!!!!! :surrender: :surrender: :surrender: :shocked:
good gawd......thats the best they gotz to choose from!!!!!!!!! :crazy: :confused:
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The Chiefs were favored by 5 - 5.5. Just looked at the Vegas numbers and it is down to 3 - 3.5. Wonder what is up with that? Mahome's ankle?
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And as usual the O line dictates how good both of them are.
Cousins is at his best when he's doing play action & if they can't run or won't because they are too far behind, the offense struggles big time. Then the defense is on the field way too much & that's not good either. :rolleyes: Cleveland has shown improvement in his pass protection, Ingram not so much. :sad:
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:pouty: :doofus: :doah: i just read the vikings signed former row da boat QB Tanner Morgan!!!!!!! :surrender: :surrender: :surrender: :shocked:
good gawd......thats the best they gotz to choose from!!!!!!!!! :crazy: :confused:
Smoke n Mirrors taught him everything there is to know about defenses. Morgan will be assistant Defensive Coordinator in charge of tutoring Flores.
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^^^^^^^ :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: the news said he's signed to the practice squad!!!! but still!!!!! :scratch: :scratch:
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:scratch: He is the Gopher's #2 all time passer? :rolleyes: A six-year student-athlete at the University of Minnesota (2017-22), Morgan started 47 of the 51 games he appeared in for the Gophers, setting the school record for wins by a starting QB (33). He completed a school record 62.2 percent of his passes during his career (661 of 1,063), recording 9,454 passing yards and 65 touchdowns. The completions, attempts, percentage, yardage and passing touchdowns rank second all-time in Gophers history.
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2nd best MN Gophers QB of all time isn't a very high watermark. Just sayin.
Still, there was a brief time when one of the national NFL draft "gurus" put Tanner Morgan high on his board - trying to be ahead of the power curve if Tanner finished the season with a flourish, but he didn't- and that national steam went away fast.
But all that doesn't mean that Tanner doesn't have the skills necessary to hold a spot on the fringes of an NFL team. God bless him.
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dont get me wrong....i'm glad the kid is getting a shot........i think there are better options..........who..... dont know.
yea he should be up there in rankings with the gophers....he did spend 6 years there!!!!!!! :doofus: :surrender:
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Often times the practice squad QB runs the opposing team's offense for the upcoming game so the starting defense can practice against them. To do that job in the NFL - even on the practice squad - you need to be able to understand the opposing teams offense, throw the ball, and be versatile enough to mimic different quarterback styles. That takes a lot of homework and professionalism - for not a lot of pay or glory. Still, it keeps him in the game and gives him an opportunity to move up if he can.
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:scratch: A 62.2 completion % is actually pretty good, especially for a program that's not really known for throwing the ball real well.
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Saw that, didn't realize his % was so good.
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Anybody in downtown Mpls? Glenn is MIA and i'm thinkin he's lurking around Mpls trying to get a sniff of Taylor Swift if she sneaks into town for the Vikings game. :rotflmao:
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Anybody in downtown Mpls? Glenn is MIA and i'm thinkin he's lurking around Mpls trying to get a sniff of Taylor Swift if she sneaks into town for the Vikings game. :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: naw Glenn is drinking beer in his back yard burning moms stuff and some wood. :rotflmao: now if that Katrina law from NCIS or Sandra Bullock would be in town you'd probably see me on the news!;; :confused: :rotflmao:
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Anybody in downtown Mpls? Glenn is MIA and i'm thinkin he's lurking around Mpls trying to get a sniff of Taylor Swift if she sneaks into town for the Vikings game. :rotflmao:
Yeah, nothing like a high-profile tabloid romance to keep your mug on TV while you're cleaning up at the box office with your new movie.
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fake punt ........love it!!!!!!! :happybounce: :happybounce:
and all the KC penalties..........wish they'd capitalize!!!! :scratch:
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vikings got screwed twice both on the pass interference and taking the helmet off!!!!!!!! :doah: :confused: :angry2:
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Amen!!!
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Big question is......how bad did Jefferson hurt his Hamstring????
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In typical MN fan fashion, I hope they don't win another game. Going no where at 1-4. You are what your record says you are. Bottom out. Rebuild.
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lol
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I'll also eat my slice of humble pie for slammin the Vikes for NOT drafting Mac Jones when they had the chance. Jones ain't doin nothing for the Pats.
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That last challenge flag was a bad decision as it cost 'em a timeout that would've come in handy on that last drive. :pouty: Still, Mattison should've caught that screen pass when he was wide open on KC's 19 yd line with 5 minutes left & that would've tied the game. :bonk: That's a lot of time left for Mahomes though. :rolleyes:
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At live speed I can see how they were hoping for a simultaneous catch that he ripped away from Kelse, but you'd a thunk the Vikes internal video review team could have made a better decision faster.
Its becoming a cliche, but you can't turn the ball over ON THE FIRST PLAY OF THE GAME, spot the defending superbowl winning team 7 points, and expect to win the game. :pouty:
Here is what's left on the schedule...
Bears (1-4), 49ers (5-0), Pack (2-2), Falcons (3-2), Saints (3-2), Broncos (1-4), Bears (1-4), Raiders (1-3), Bengals (2-3), Lions (4-1), Pack (2-2), and Lions (4-1)
Neither the Bears nor the Pack are above .500, but they'll prolly split with them anyway. Vikes SHOULD beat the Broncos and the Raiders, but their records says they are as bad as those teams - another split. And I like the Bengals over the Vikes straight up. Again, in typical MN fan fashion ;), I only see 3 more wins on the schedule. :coffee:
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Not even Taylor Swift respects Minnesota... :rotflmao:
"Seven words I thought would never leave my lips in my career: Taylor Swift is not at the game... She was questionable all week, but it looks like it's officially inactive. "- Jim Nantz
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"The Minnesota Vikings are set to place Justin Jefferson on injured reserve, meaning he'll miss at least the next four games."
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Thanks Ken, I been looking to see if they released anything new too. Ko'C pretty much said he wasn't going to play this week yday but that's all I could find.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :surrender: :bonk:
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That bitch. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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So.....question is.....will they trade Cousins before the deadline at the end of the month??? He has to agree since he has a ....No Trade Clause.
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I say do it Kirk, can't keep getting beat up here with this o-line. You've always gone where the money is, it could be a lot greener somewhere else.
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Yup I always thought that if he decided to go that we would be begging him to stay. Can't blame him for leaving. For a decade or two they haven't tried to hard to protect our QBs. Just about 0 chance that this season turns out good anyways. And it is not Kirk's fault. No QB's are going to want to get the heck beat out of them here neither.
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:scratch: There's been talk of Mullens being put on the IL & the ex-Gopher was released yday. https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/vikings_work_out_qb_colt_mccoy_7_others_on_tuesday/s1_16715_39373919
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Good article Gunner.
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Too bad for Tanner. They don't refer to the NFL as football at "The Highest Level" for nothing.
If the Vikes were 4-1 instead of 1-4, I wonder if JJ would have shut it down for 4 weeks with his pulled hammie or gutted it out for the team? :scratch:
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Too bad for Tanner. They don't refer to the NFL as football at "The Highest Level" for nothing.
If the Vikes were 4-1 instead of 1-4, I wonder if JJ would have shut it down for 4 weeks with his pulled hammie or gutted it out for the team? :scratch:
i heard that KOC shut JJ down for his own good....... because he wouldnt otherwise!!!!
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Too bad for Tanner. They don't refer to the NFL as football at "The Highest Level" for nothing.
If the Vikes were 4-1 instead of 1-4, I wonder if JJ would have shut it down for 4 weeks with his pulled hammie or gutted it out for the team? :scratch:
i heard that KOC shut JJ down for his own good....... because he wouldnt otherwise!!!!
KOC needs to do the right thing, which allow JJ to say the right thing. KOC (and rightly so) wants to send the message to his players that he cares about their health - knowing full well JJ has a big decision coming up.
I know I'm getting all worked up when I shouldn't be. Hell, if I were JJ, I'd do the same thing and probably be less gracious and politically correct about it. If he can stay healthy, he's about to make A Bagillion Dollars and could be an all-time NFL great. I just hope he does it with the Vikes.
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Since baseball is done...
A) Do you think they will try to trade Cousins?
B) Do you think Cousins will squash the deal?
C) What do you think they will get for him?
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Going with B.
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You're probably right. He is a pro, but he is also family first. That is always a struggle for pro athletes to balance the two.
But Cousins has a pro contract that with a no trade clause. If he wants to stay close to his family this season, he can, and I agree, I think he will. Next season's problems will solve themselves soon enough.
The only wild card factor is if Cousins is tired of the crap getting kicked out of him, and a team with a strong offensive line want to trade for him. :scratch:
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I can see him going to a team like mentioned with a strong O line. But they also must have a shot at the big one. Not sure who that would be. The common thought is San Fran but they seem to be doing good with Purdy. If he gets hurt again they are done for.
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The guy without a helmet last week got fined yday. :rolleyes:
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Heard the Vikings were going to roll out new uniforms that look like the Gophers in style and color.
Just kidding, but it's as likely as Cousins getting traded.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Lets hope we can win the battle of the basement today.
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I agree db, he's said he plans to finish the season in Mn.
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Trouble is with the Vikes getting their next QB... Da Bears :blues brothers: have much more experience at this tanking thing than the Vikings.
The Vikes think...
If we could just beat the best team in football next Monday night - when Kirk NEVER plays his best,
Then we would be 3 - 4, which is almost like being .500,
And sometimes there are teams that make it into the playoffs with when they are one game over .500,
Even without Justin Jefferson for over a month, a running game, or a cohesive offensive line,
So let's circle the wagons and go for it! :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader:
The Bears hoped they had the answer in Justin fields, but don't. They'll be happy to lose the rest of their games and draft their next QB.
'Cept they won't lose them all, because I still predicted a split with the Vikings. :scratch: :rotflmao: :bonk:
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Last year we all know was a lot of luck. This year the other teams know what we are going to do before we do it, especially the runs. Passes we have a better chance usually. We got hosed big time on the Hockenson deal. The Lions are still laughing at that deal. He may not even be worth half of what we paid and there are a lot of better guys out there. Kirk takes so long before he throws the ball that I don't know if any line can hold that long. He sure is accurate though. Make Flores the head coach and let KOC be the QB coach.
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I got no answers. Those were just my knee-jerk, typical goof-ball fan reaction takes offered up for entertainment purposes. I do want to see the Vikes win.
And I do know that every person in every NFL locker room wants to win. Its just some guys want it more, are willing do do more, and sacrifice more to get there. And teams that have the right combination of commitment, talent, and leadership will contend. We can agree or disagree on what the Vikes lack this year, but it seems clear from the outside that they are missing something.
For fans, a team's next winning formula can never come soon enough.
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:scratch: Hockenson is tied with the KC guy for the most receptions for a TE, except he's played 1 more game. If he stays healthy & keeps up his current pace, he will have 100 catches along with 900-1000 yds. :confused:
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Doesn't seem like it.
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6 games and Vikes do not have a rushing TD yet.
They are tied for the fewest rushing first downs.
Now lost Def End Davenport for 4-6 weeks with high ankle sprain.
Trade deadline 2 weeks away. If they get clobbered by the Niners.....Hunter will be traded. Smith should go also. Trade Cousins if he agrees to go to a contender.
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:scratch: Hockenson is tied with the KC guy for the most receptions for a TE, except he's played 1 more game. If he stays healthy & keeps up his current pace, he will have 100 catches along with 900-1000 yds. :confused:
I guess the rap on Hock is that he had some drops, balls that hit him in the hands he didn't catch, and he missed some blocks.
With a downgrade at the running back position, how many years in a row with a sub-par, patch work, injured offensive line, the WR1 on IR, and more turnovers than you can shake a stick at, this 2023 offense has zero margin for error. Hockenson's mistakes stand right out there with the rest of them.
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They need to let this season go, if by a prayer they make the playoff, they cant compete, 1 an done.
They should put in the rookies, give them play time to develop, have a loosing season and get high in the draft
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I'm pretty sure Hockenson isn't real happy with his own play, since they're not winning. He has 11 more targets than catches & on about 1/2 of those Cousins is getting hit as he's getting rid of the ball. :scratch: I'm not so sure about the downgrade at RB either. Have you seen what Cook is doing for the NYJ? In fairness to him, he's not playing much but https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3116593/dalvin-cook :confused:
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Those are not good stats for him. 39 rushes for 109 yards. I want to see more of the new guy too.
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I'm pretty sure Hockenson isn't real happy with his own play, since they're not winning. He has 11 more targets than catches & on about 1/2 of those Cousins is getting hit as he's getting rid of the ball. :scratch: I'm not so sure about the downgrade at RB either. Have you seen what Cook is doing for the NYJ? In fairness to him, he's not playing much but https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3116593/dalvin-cook :confused:
I couldn't agree more about Hockenson/Cousins. No one is tougher on players than the players themselves - 'cept maybe even tougher coaches - and there seem to be less of those in the league every year.
If Cook was still on the team, we wouldn't say the position was downgraded. We'd probably be saying Cook lost a step. But since the Vikings made the move, and they were hoping to get the same or better performance for less money - and they aren't - I think it is fair to say the RB position is downgraded.
RB is a tricky skill position for fans to understand. Some guys just have a knack to see holes AND get to them before they close. I'll be the best RBs see those holes before they open up - kinda like Larry Bird or Michael Jordon seeing the whole court at once and knowing what will happen before it does. But RB is a brutal position, and if you don't have the quickness to hit those holes anymore, vision will only get you so far.
Elite running backs can make a mediocre OL look functional in the run game. And a superior OL can make an average RB look like a star. Right now the Vikes have nether.
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Christian Darrisaw and Brian O'Neill are the highest graded players at their respective positions through six weeks this season, according to Pro Football Focus
With Jefferson the best receiver in football the Vikes would be a great place for a young QB to get drafted next spring. :happy1: :happy1:
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But for Jefferson to be willing to resign with the Vikes... they are only one franchise QB, one RB1, three above-average offensive linemen, and a whole starting defense - away from being real contenders next year. :bonk:
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SSHHHH What if JJ reads this site. Don't talk him into leaving. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I'll disagree, I think the Vikings have a average running back at best. I don't see the Vikings being a team that wants to run. I think they would be happy with 50 yards a game if the running backs kept Cousins upright with good blocking. Remember which coaching tree KOC comes from.
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Cook is on a 1 yr/$8.6 mil deal, Mattison is on a 2 yr/$7 mil deal. So, an extra year of team control while saving $5+ mil & not to mention the difference in production this season. :scratch: That sounds like a good move to me, especially with the Vikes salary cap issues to start this last off season. :confused:
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I agree that the RB move made sense. The Vikes had to do something. But no one thought that they'd get so little out of the run game this year.
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Yeah, they're only averaging 75 yds/gm on ~ 19 carries, which has 'em #30 in the league. :sad: Surprisingly :scratch:, they are #3 in passing, behind only Miami & KC, with almost 264 yds/gm. Cousins is at his best doing play action & rolling out IMO. Pretty sure it wouldn't hurt the "D" either if they didn't have to be on the field for 2/3 of the game every week too.
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On a more positive note, it looks like the kick return team could be better this week. https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/top_news/vikings-made-3
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Report: Vikings 'open for business' ahead of trade deadline (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/report-vikings-open-for-business-ahead-of-trade-deadline)
Twin Cities sports insider Darren Wolfson, of 5 Eyewitness News, said he received a text message from an AFC front office executive who said they are "getting the sense that the Vikings are very much, even after Sunday's win, very much open for business."
Wolfson said he's not hearing anything about quarterback Kirk Cousins, which makes sense after Adam Schefter reported last weekend that Cousins does not plan to waive his no-trade clause and therefore would finish the season with the Vikings before becoming a free agent in March.
:popcorn:
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I'll be VERY surprised if Adofo-Mensah has the cajones to make a block-buster deal at the trade deadline. All the sports writers say he's always gotten the short end of the stick in the deals he's made. A huge mistake at this point in his tenure could shorten it dramatically.
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Yes......his 2022 draft was a disaster. :thumbs: :thumbs:
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Here it comes... :doah: :embarrassed:
Is the price for Danielle Hunter a mid-round draft pick? (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/is-the-price-for-danielle-hunter-a-mid-round-draft-pick)
Danielle Hunter's name being in the trade rumor mill is nothing new, but the Vikings receiving anything short of a first-round pick for him seemed ludicrous until a couple of esteemed media outlets started suggesting a mid-round pick could be enough to get Minnesota to agree to a deal.
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1st round pick for sure. OR a couple of 2nds.. ??
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Here it comes... :doah: :embarrassed:
Is the price for Danielle Hunter a mid-round draft pick? (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/is-the-price-for-danielle-hunter-a-mid-round-draft-pick)
Danielle Hunter's name being in the trade rumor mill is nothing new, but the Vikings receiving anything short of a first-round pick for him seemed ludicrous until a couple of esteemed media outlets started suggesting a mid-round pick could be enough to get Minnesota to agree to a deal.
What esteemed media outlets would this be? Joe & Petes basement podcast? At this time of the year it's wannabe's tossing mud against the walls hoping to get something to stick.
We are all old enough to know better than to believe anything you hear or read prior to the deadline unless it comes directly from the NFL office that the trade has been approved.
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:scratch: They've been writing about Hunter getting traded since the week 2 loss :rolleyes: ...............& now as the deadline approaches the list of potential trade partners seems to include just about anybody that has much of a chance to make the playoffs. :doah:
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Yep, trade rumors are just that. Bloggers start em. Legit reporters start em. So do teams and agents.
The bottom line is, the Vikes have to ask if Hunter is part of the plan for next year. He might be worth a 1st rounder - but will any one offer it?
In a season that is going no where, do you let him walk for nothing in return?
Would you trade him for a 2nd? Would you keep him the rest of the year if the best you got offered was a 5th?
Kwesi is kind of at the mercy of the market and how many bidders are out there. Or who knows... Maybe Kwesi wants to keep him and try to resign him next year.
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Personally, I think the new system Flores has put in is almost a perfect fit for him.
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If you believe Flores has any clout with-in the organization then you would need to run any trade for less than a #1 past him. With him wanting a head coaching job he wouldn't want anything negative associated with him. If the Vikings defense gets worse or they tank it won't reflect well on the job he did.
That said, I don't know what all the hub bub about him was about in the first place. His reputation is more about going to court than actually being a defensive guru.
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Many forget that he was with Belichick for 15 years & was there for 4 SB wins. He started as a scouting assistant & ended up calling the defensive signals his final season.
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Maybe he will turn out to be a good D-Coordinator but I can't tell by what i've seen this year.
Remember, Biden was in congress forever but that didn't guarantee competence once he got to the big chair.
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So WTF. I JUST turned the Vikings on and the first thing I hear was Vikings turned the ball over .. how????
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Interception. At first it looked loke dual posessiin, but replay showed ith 49er had most of it the whole way.
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:scratch: No sacks & 450 yds of offense, was that the same team that struggled against the Bears last week? :crazy:
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One heck of a game. We played great on both sides of the ball. Proud to be a Vikes fan this morning. :happy1: :happy1:
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yea it was crazy. but iffin they converted more of them field goals to TD.......... :confused: :happy1:
and it was a monday night game.....kinda impressed with cousin Kirk!!!!!! :rolleyes: :sleazy: :happy1:
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Nice to watch a game and not hear any O-linemen’s name repeatedly mentioned for how bad they were doing. Maybe they had the best O-line guys from all of the other teams in the league wearing our guys’ jerseys?
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:scratch: After completing 35-of-45 passes for 378 yards and two touchdowns, Cousins donned the custom "SportsCenter Top 10" chain during his post game interview. Justin Jefferson, who is on injured reserve, placed the jewelry on his quarterback and Cousins was complimentary of the look
"I've gotta work on getting some [grills] though ... SportsCenter, I like it." :rolleyes: :smiley:
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Nice to watch a game and not hear any O-linemen’s name repeatedly mentioned for how bad they were doing. Maybe they had the best O-line guys from all of the other teams in the league wearing our guys’ jerseys?
There were several times where the broadcast team even complimented them... and deservedly so! :happy1:
:scratch: No sacks & 450 yds of offense, was that the same team that struggled against the Bears last week? :crazy:
Typical Minnesota sports team... Play up or down to the level of their competition.
They say you are what your record says you are, but the Vikes have been in most of their games (one score losses), and had it not been for all the turn-overs, they might have a much better record. Still, they dug themselves a hole with all those losses, Jefferson is still hurt, and it looks like Hokenson is really gutting it out to stay in the game. He really looks dinged up in the lower body. I hope they have enough horses to turn this season around.
Next week... Da Packas! :sleazy:
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:scratch: After completing 35-of-45 passes for 378 yards and two touchdowns, Cousins donned the custom "SportsCenter Top 10" chain during his post game interview. Justin Jefferson, who is on injured reserve, placed the jewelry on his quarterback and Cousins was complimentary of the look
"I've gotta work on getting some [grills] though ... SportsCenter, I like it." :rolleyes: :smiley:
(https://chorus.stimg.co/25027090/merlin_72444201.jpg?fit=crop&crop=faces&w=550&&auto=format) :rotflmao: :Clap:
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One heck of a game. We played great on both sides of the ball. Proud to be a Vikes fan this morning. :happy1: :happy1:
Now there is something we have not heard much this season
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One heck of a game. We played great on both sides of the ball. Proud to be a Vikes fan this morning. :happy1: :happy1:
Now there is something we have not heard much this season
A great celebration for sure... Watch: Kevin O'Connell's intense victory speech after 49ers win (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/watch-kevin-oconnells-intense-victory-speech-after-49ers-win)
And Paul Allen's call of the last play:
Another memorable call from the Vikings radio announcer. (https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/vikings-announcer-paul-allen-these-sour-bleep-niners-can-get-out-of-town)
"Purdy, back to pass – somebody needs to sack him – he loops it over the middle, intercepted! Yes! The Vikings beat the Niners! And Cam Bynum has a two-interception night. And now a fight, it unfurls on the field and we're not over-exaggerating that, there were punches thrown. These sour a** Niners can go ahead and get out of town."
"Sorry for the foul language, but stop throwing punches at our players," Allen tweeted afterward. "Still, much respect for the Niners."
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I see where Purdy didn't take part in practice yday & has been placed on IL with a concussion. :scratch: Guess he started to show symptoms on the flight home.
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Trade deadline coming up next week. Should the Vikes be sellers, buyers, or stand pat with what they got and see how far they can go?
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If you could pick one position to upgrade which would it be? There has even been talk about getting Thielen back. The O line is doing better but I think I would add a big guy in the middle of the line. Or mayhaps a big D lineman.
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Shutdown Cornerback.
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More meat on the O line!
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Trade deadline coming up next week. Should the Vikes be sellers, buyers, or stand pat with what they got and see how far they can go?
Sadly they have just enough wins at this point its hard for them to go full on sell and rebuild mode. My guess is they will not likely make much of a move wither way. Probably just sit back and see how the season Plays out. With the Lion's recent loss and still having 2 more games against them. There is still a good chance of a division title. I think they could easily win 5 out of their next 6 games.
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I still think they should be sellers - even with the couple of wins they just got.
The last couple of seasons they have been mortgaging the future to get that one guy that will put them over the hump in the current season - case in point: TJ Hockenson. I ain't sayin' that was a bad deal, just that you can't keep runnin the team that way.
I think they should look to trade the guys they KNOW won't be on the team next year for future draft capital so they can keep working to re-build the O Line and add to the defense.
I do not predict any blockbuster deals unless they KNOW they won't be able to sign JJ.
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Note to the new guys and gal......Vikings bandwagon jumping is alive and well here also. Just a couple of weeks ago everybody wanted JJ, Cousins and Hunter traded for nothing more than draft capitol. Now after a couple of wins people are scouting for cheap airlines tickets to the Super Bowl. This place is just like IDO in that respect.
:rotflmao:
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Note to the new guys and gal......Vikings bandwagon jumping is alive and well here also. Just a couple of weeks ago everybody wanted JJ, Cousins and Hunter traded for nothing more than draft capitol. Now after a couple of wins people are scouting for cheap airlines tickets to the Super Bowl. This place is just like IDO in that respect.
:rotflmao:
what :scratch: you didn't get yours yet. :mooning: :rotflmao:
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Note to the new guys and gal......Vikings bandwagon jumping is alive and well here also. Just a couple of weeks ago everybody wanted JJ, Cousins and Hunter traded for nothing more than draft capitol. Now after a couple of wins people are scouting for cheap airlines tickets to the Super Bowl. This place is just like IDO in that respect.
:rotflmao:
what :scratch: you didn't get yours yet. :mooning: :rotflmao:
Nope I'm to busy trying to score tickets to Smoke & Mirrors annual trip to the Yankee Stadium muffler bowl. His chance at a sparkling 5-6 record could get him a upper D2 opponent.
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Note to the new guys and gal......Vikings bandwagon jumping is alive and well here also. Just a couple of weeks ago everybody wanted JJ, Cousins and Hunter traded for nothing more than draft capitol. Now after a couple of wins people are scouting for cheap airlines tickets to the Super Bowl. This place is just like IDO in that respect.
:rotflmao:
For the record... I've been pretty consistent on "sell."
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Trade deadline coming up next week. Should the Vikes be sellers, buyers, or stand pat with what they got and see how far they can go?
:scratch: Things can change pretty quickly in today's NFL according to this :rolleyes: ...............https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/3-4-favorable-schedule-vikings-playoff-hunt-back-on
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More....................https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/right_this_moment_the_vikings_occupy_an_nfc_playoff_spot/s1_16715_39447290 :confused:
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Note to the new guys and gal......Vikings bandwagon jumping is alive and well here also. Just a couple of weeks ago everybody wanted JJ, Cousins and Hunter traded for nothing more than draft capitol. Now after a couple of wins people are scouting for cheap airlines tickets to the Super Bowl. This place is just like IDO in that respect.
:rotflmao:
Thanks for the heads up Dutch. Kinda figured that was a state wide thing anyway! :crazy:
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Everyone glowed over Kirk's Monday night performance and the defense played well against San Fran's sputtering offense - but give them credit where credit is due. They always say, just make it into the playoffs and anything can happen...
The key to all this is, do the Vikings think they can sign Cousins, Jefferson and still have enough left over to improve their other needs? :confused:
Their salary cap was one of the worst positions in the NFL last off season and probably won't be that much better next off season. Something has to give.
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:scratch: They currently have slightly > than $10 million in cap space, which is 8th best in the entire league according to this: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/ :cool: So, they've been doing something right as that's much better than when last season ended. To be fair, it's not all Kwesi, as I have heard this guy's name mentioned more than a few times as being 1 of the best at dealing with the Salary Cap issues. https://www.vikings.com/team/front-office-roster/rob-brzezinski
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Yes, Brzenzinski has a good reputation. And the fact that he is still here after Spielman and Zimmer are gone speaks to that and his relationship with the Wilfs.
But I'm guessin' the reason for being 8th best now is because they don't have a QB1 signed for next season. $10M ain't goona get Kapt. Kirk or JJ signed, let alone both of them. I think Brzenzinski still has his work cut out for him. ;)
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:scratch: I think him & that Ivy Leaguer economics guy will figure it out. :smiley:
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Which Viking's team shows up today? :scratch: Last week's or the 1 that played the Bears? :confused:
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We can only hope the good team shows up. The pecker fans become intolerable when they win.
Although back to back to back HOF quarterbacks won't be happening there. The Lovefest grows weaker every week.
37-7 with GB scoring on a kick return.
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Love has been among the worst in the league against the blitz this season, so I think Flores will have 'em coming a lot & from everywhere. https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/vikings_defense_is_using_everybody_everywhere_all_the_time/s1_17017_39455673
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SMACK THE PACK
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We're listening to it, sounds like a fun game to watch. Think it was Bercich said that it looks like Cousins at practice eating up some yards..lol.
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We can only hope the good team shows up. The pecker fans become intolerable when they win.
I do business with a lot of Packer fans. Some are ok, and don’t take a game’s outcome as a life changing experience, but I won’t talk to a few for couple days after they play the Vikings. If they win, they are smug and intolerable, if they lose they’re pouty and complain about officiating or some other thing that caused the loss.
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that Mettelus D-back for the Vikes has been looking pretty good of late!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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The team looks like they are having fun and playing good. Hope they can keep it up.
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Packers are missing Rogers. Lee has a LONG way to go. Can't hit long passes. Vikings Defense played well. :happy1: :happy1:
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heard some discouraging news about cousins :confused: :doah: early report is a torn Achilles!!!!!!!
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Just when they were starting to put things together.
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Remember, offense sells tickets, defense wins championships.
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Most likely out for the season. :pouty: :pouty:
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Some interesting decisions to be made. If Cousins is out for the season, do they stick with Hall? Trade for someone with a little more experience?
Either way I think Cousin’s market value just dropped. Maybe he’d be willing to stay here at a reduced price for future year or two?
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Some interesting decisions to be made. If Cousins is out for the season, do they stick with Hall? Trade for someone with a little more experience?
Either way I think Cousin’s market value just dropped. Maybe he’d be willing to stay here at a reduced price for future year or two?
:scratch: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38775402/after-losing-kirk-cousins-do-minnesota-vikings-do-now :confused:
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Kind of surprised to see Flores opt to play coverage versus pressure on the last 2-3 GB possessions yday. He only had 3 rush & 7 or 8 in the secondary on 3rd & 4th downs. Had 1 LB on 1 play, I think. :scratch: Not his usual MO, worked though. :happy1: :cool:
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Yeah, but Luv wasn't exactly posing a formattable threat thru the air. You have to rush/hurry elite passers to get them off their spot or they will pick you apart. Apparently Flores wasn't too worried about that at the end of the game.
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Addison kicking butt. JJ looking to reset the $$$ bar for WR1s in free-agency. Kirk out the rest of the year.
I wonder what teams might be willing to give up to get JJ. :scratch:
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That or he thought he could get good enough pressure with just 3. They have been playing Smith, Bynum, & Metellus all at Safety & often at the same time. He has used Smith & Metellus both on the pass rush quite a bit too, so he could change from coverage to pressure just before the snap too. :scratch: That's pretty tough on a young QB. :cool:
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Heard that there's been quite a bit of interest in #99 but a 2nd Rd pick was the most anybody offered & that wasn't good enough. Personally, I don't think they'll be trading anyone. Especially, after they make a move at QB by tomorrow. I'm not certain when Mullens can come off IR but personally I don't see Hall starting next week. They have Mannion on the Practice Squad & IMO he'd start before Hall. McCoy or Keenum is my guess who they sign. :scratch:
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I think we all (mostly me ;) ) have to remember the Vikings weren't as bad as their 1-3 start. They were in all those game and shot themselves in the foot. But now, having weathered the toughest part of the schedule and with some games under their belt, this offensive line is playing better, and Flores seems to be a coach who creates schemes to fit his players - not the other way around. That is what makes the Cousins injury to tragic for the team and fans.
A #2 for JJ might have been all they'd offer before - but it could go up at the deadline. Question is, would Adofo-Mensah pull the trigger for just a #1? :confused: (I would - with the right team, who looks to have a high draft pick next year.)
I ain't advocating for Keenum one way or the other in this scenario, but I've been trying to figure out how long it has been since the Vikes had a bonafide QB2 on the roster. Was it Keenum? :scratch: Or maybe no one thought much of him at the time either and he simply made the most of his opportunity.
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Another week for Mullens, at least.
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The Minnesota Vikings confirmed everyone’s worst fears in reporting that an MRI revealed Kirk Cousins tore his right Achilles tendon.
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Watched a Press conference by head coach KOC. He said all options are on the table for a replacement QB. There are a few reports that they are trying to make a trade for Jameis Winston - YUCK !!! I'd rather take out chances with what we have now.
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Winston would be one of the last people I even want to be around let alone be our QB. It is fun to contemplate who we could get this quick but at the same time I would like to give Hall a few games or maybe the rest of the season to see what he can do for us.
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Yeah, the Vikes turned things around to get to .500, but does anyone REALLY think the window of opportunity is open for this team to make a deep play-off run? :confused: I didn't think so. :coffee:
The front office has to say the right things... "All options on the table, etc. etc. etc." Let's hope they aren't' foolish enough to mortgage the future just to get a middling backup QB to close out this mediocre season.
Unless, of course... They are savvy enough to trade JJ for a bona fide QB1 under contract for the next couple of years. :sleazy:
But that pipe dream ain't happening. :popcorn:
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I did think they were on a roll and could have made a nice run. Everyone seems to have gelled greatly the last few weeks. BUT they may now just seriously look for the QB of the future. Who is another 35 mill a year QB we could get. Or isn't that enough money anymore?
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Cousins wasn't mobile to begin with. If he comes back next year - with the 'hometown' discount because of the bad wheel and no other team willing to give him top dollar - maybe he could still be an effective pocket passer. He always has been the guy that wants to prove his critics wrong.
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His accuracy is his thing. He is pretty darn accurate.
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I did think they were on a roll and could have made a nice run. Everyone seems to have gelled greatly the last few weeks. BUT they may now just seriously look for the QB of the future. Who is another 35 mill a year QB we could get. Or isn't that enough money anymore?
:scratch: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/08/11/quarterbacks-highest-paid-2023-salary-rankings/70510339007/ :confused:
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I see that the Falcons are favored by 4.5 - 5 pts. Man the Rams have really fallen. GB is favored over them by 3
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Any trades need to be completed by 3:00 today. One prospect, McCoy, is a FA however. A lot of opinions out there about what should/will happen & some even kind of make sense. :scratch: https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/10/30/23939805/report-vikings-may-not-be-active-before-trade-deadline :confused: They have their 1st practice of the week tomorrow, so they will have to decide who is the guy, at least for this week, by then.
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I don't think they will make a trade. Maybe sign a QB sitting on his couch at hoem.
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there sure is alot of blabberin about Winston :scratch: :doah: not sure about him??? his passing isnt all that good but he can run with the ball another threat. he's on the bench for a reason i guess!!!! :rolleyes:
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Other than the sexual assault and stealing issues he may not be a bad guy.
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Other than the sexual assault and stealing issues he may not be a bad guy.
:thumbs:
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Current reports by various so called experts are saying the Vikings are not likely to do anything at QB before the trade deadline at 3:00 today. They also say that Hunter is not likely going anywhere.
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Aren't blockbuster trades at the NFL pretty rare? :confused:
It ain't the same as baseball where by the trade deadline, teams generally know if they should be buyers or sellers - and they are more apt to trade talent now for prospects down the road. That really doesn't exist in the NFL.
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Well the experts were wrong. They just made a trade for Josh Dobbs. Oh Yay !!! He was just benched is favor of a 5th round rookie QB
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If nothing else he's a smart guy.
" An actual rocket scientist, Dobbs has had several internships with NASA. He earned a degree in aerospace engineering at Tennessee while also going 3-0 in bowl games as the Volunteers' quarterback. "
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i seen also they just sent Cleveland to the Jags.......Risner must be doing pretty good!!!
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The Cardinals are trading Dobbs and a 2024 seventh-round pick to the Vikings in exchange for a 2024 sixth-rounder.
Dobbs being traded -- for the second time this year. ... The Cardinals gave up a fifth-round pick for Dobbs earlier this season but are getting a sixth in return eight games and little more than two months later.
So the Vikes are trading next to nothing to get another warm body in the QB room. :coffee:
I'm glad they didn't break the bank to go searching for something that isn't there. :azn:
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Vikings are now sending guard Ezra Cleveland to the Jacksonville Jaguars in exchange for a Day 3 pick in the 2023 NFL Draft. A “Day 3” pick, which could be anything between the fourth and the seventh round.
Cleveland was the Vikings’ second-round pick in the 2020 NFL Draft, and until his recent foot injury had started 43 consecutive games for the Vikings at left guard. He missed the last two games with in-season free agent signing Dalton Risner stepping into his left guard spot.
So the Vikes are getting next to nothing (or maybe a little something more) for a second rounder who gave them 2+ years of service as a starter.
But things change. If Cleveland wasn't going to be part of the go-forward plan, better to get something for him rather than nothing - especially if he we only going to be a back-up the rest of the way.
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A good share of Risner's deal was signing bonus, so Cleveland's salary for the season is more than double Risner's but Risner is about $1 million more of a cap hit. :scratch: I don't know how or if that even played into it, but both are UFAs after this season. :confused:
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Lost in the chaos caused by the Vikings trading for quarterback Josh Dobbs and sending left guard Ezra Cleveland to Jacksonville on Tuesday was a little line from Ian Rapoport on NFL Network when he uttered the words "Justin Jefferson coming back sooner rather than later."
Could be for the New Orleans game following this Sunday's game
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Good for the team. Good for Jefferson.
I admit to wearing my MN "Defeatist" Sport Fan hat right now, but I don't see a clear path towards signing JJ next year.
I don't think he'll go into next season without a long term deal, i.e. holdout. And if that it his play, will JJ demand a trade if the Vikes can't come to an agreement?
So recovering quickly and playing well is good for JJ's 'brand' and will help him in his quest to reset the $$$ bar for WR1 contracts.
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I have been watching Jaren Hall highlights. Here are his stats from 2022: 66% completions, 3171 yards passing, 31 TDs in the air, 6 int, 346 yards rushing, 3 rushing TDs. I think he will fit right in with this group. Perfect time for him too when things are looking good.
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:scratch: Is there such a thing as a :cool: nerd? https://kdvr.com/sports/sports-illustrated/7f13099d/kirk-cousins-did-something-pretty-sweet-for-young-vikings-fans-day-after-se
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:scratch: This might have something to do with why Cleveland is now in Jacksonville? https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/01/og-chris-reed-returns-to-minnesota-on-two-year-deal-with-vikings/
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Ya they don't come much nicer than Kirk. Class act. Also good to see Reed coming here.
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:scratch: This might have something to do with why Cleveland is now in Jacksonville? https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/01/og-chris-reed-returns-to-minnesota-on-two-year-deal-with-vikings/
How so? That article is from 2022. Is Reed even still on the roster?
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:oops1: :doah: This 1 isn't https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/01/vikings-roster-moves-joejuan-williams-chris-reed/ NFI= Non-Football Injury. :scratch: https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/roster/_/name/min/minnesota-vikings
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:oops1: :doah: This 1 isn't https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/01/vikings-roster-moves-joejuan-williams-chris-reed/ NFI= Non-Football Injury. :scratch: https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/roster/_/name/min/minnesota-vikings
"Reed was placed on the reserve/non-football injury list on Aug. 30 and seems to have recovered enough to return to practice for the Vikings. He'll provide depth on Minnesota's offensive line once he's able to suit up for games."
Maybe the NFL had that special non-football injury list all along, or maybe they invented it for they guys who didn't want to play during Covid - or maybe that was a different list.
Non-football injuries though... could be anything from a skiing accident to maybe even a recovery program. Either way, glad he is coming out of the woods.
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:scratch: Some sort of foot injury, it says here https://www.vikings.com/news/falcons-week-9-injury-report :confused: He did participate in practice yday but it was just a walk-through.
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I have been watching Jaren Hall highlights. Here are his stats from 2022: 66% completions, 3171 yards passing, 31 TDs in the air, 6 int, 346 yards rushing, 3 rushing TDs. I think he will fit right in with this group. Perfect time for him too when things are looking good.
I was curious about Dobbs too, so I did some research & kind of liked what I found. This was 1 of the more interesting pcs I found.................https://www.vikings.com/news/5-things-to-know-new-qb-joshua-dobbs
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I used to listen to interviews with ex-Gopher's coach Glen Mason on KFAN radio. He always says, "Teams are selling one of two things: they are either selling success, or they are selling hope."
Hope springs eternal with our Minnesota Vikings. I wish Mr. Dobbs and the Vikes all the best in a bad situation.
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I heard on KFAN that he is a very likeable person and very intelligent of course. I still want him to be backup to Hall for starters at least.
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Hall has been here all season, so he knows the offense & Dobbs doesn't. Dobbs has already started 10 NFL games & Hall has 0 NFL starts. That is about the only difference I see. They will both need to be ready to play by Sunday.
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I heard on KFAN that he is a very likeable person and very intelligent of course. I still want him to be backup to Hall for starters at least.
Keep in mind the Vikings head cheerleader has a 3 hour daily show on KFAN. Everything on that station concerning the Vikings is puppies & roses.
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Dan Barerrio isn't always "duckies and bunnies" when it comes to the Vikes.
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Good to get the win, but sure was hard watching more guys get hurt. The falcons sure like to play dirty. Although at times it looked like we were watching a pre season game.
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Yeah.....seeing names on the backs I don't recognize.
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That had to be the strangest Vikes game I have ever seen. Glad we won.
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I did love to see dobbs hold in the pocket and scramble to run! That was a breath of fresh air!
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Yeah.....seeing names on the backs I don't recognize.
The guy that replaced Osborne & caught the 2pt conversion was on the practice squad last week. So was the guy that backed up Hicks at LB yday. They had 3 others that are #3 on the depth chart get in the game on defense too. The IL is 19 names long this morning. :pouty:
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Man that is a lot of injuries.
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:bow: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/joshua_dobbs_led_vikings_to_win_despite_not_knowing_teams_plays_teammates_full_na
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Cam Akers is out for the season. Christian Darrisaw, T.J. Hockenson and Brian Asamoah will likely be limited in practice this week with injuries, and the status of K.J. Osborn and Jaren Hall is unknown as they go through the NFL's concussion protocol.
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Damn. Was just getting to like Akers too.
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I see Akers had the second Achilles of his career.
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"The big question looming in the building right now is with Jefferson. He has missed the last four games but is eligible to come off of injured reserve now. There are still tests that need to be done to make sure that he is good to go, but adding him to that receiving corps would be a massive boost.
It’s worth noting that O’Connell said that “it’s possible” that the Vikings open up his practice window."
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"The big question looming in the building right now is with Jefferson. He has missed the last four games but is eligible to come off of injured reserve now. There are still tests that need to be done to make sure that he is good to go, but adding him to that receiving corps would be a massive boost.
It’s worth noting that O’Connell said that “it’s possible” that the Vikings open up his practice window."
How can it be a looming question? The Vikings running game is worse than the Gophers passing attack. A hobbled Jefferson does nobody any good, get him to 100% and turn him loose.
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:happy1: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/vikings_receive_major_injury_update_on_justin_jefferson/s1_17150_39496827 Another question I have is who is QB2 this week? :scratch: I believe Mullens can come off IR this week, if he's healthy, but I'd be very surprised if Hall is cleared in time to practice this week. They still could bring Mannion up from the practice squad too. Generally, their 1st practice of the week is a walk thru on Wednesday, I would think a decision would need to be made by then. :confused:
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Vikings plan to start QB Josh Dobbs vs. Saints after sensational debut (https://www.nfl.com/news/vikings-plan-to-start-qb-josh-dobbs-vs-saints-after-sensational-debut)
NASA gives Vikings' Joshua Dobbs new nickname after historic performance (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nasa-gives-vikings-joshua-dobbs-new-nickname-historic-performance)
"Passtronaut" :puke: :doofus: :thumbs:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-RFGXbW4AAvHT0?format=jpg&name=small)
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A short time after the Minnesota Vikings activated the 21-day practice window for Justin Jefferson's return from the IR, head coach Kevin O'Connell said the star wideout return to the field against the Saints Sunday would be "a little aggressive."
The Vikings now have 21 days to activate Jefferson to the 53-man roster or shut him down for the season, with the receiver having been on the IR for four weeks due to a hamstring injury suffered in Week 5 against the Kansas City Chiefs.
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The Vikings placed Akers on injured reserve on Wednesday afternoon with his torn Achilles tendon. This is the second time in the last 27 months that Akers suffered the injury.
Because Akers won’t meet the conditions for the trade (500 rushing yards) with the Los Angeles Rams, the Vikings won’t have to send a sixth-round pick in 2025 in exchange for the Rams 2025 seventh-round pick.
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With only two healthy quarterbacks, the Vikings brought back Gopher's Tanner Morgan to their practice squad. He spent time with the Vikings on the practice squad in October and will be available for Sunday’s game.
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A short time after the Minnesota Vikings activated the 21-day practice window for Justin Jefferson's return from the IR, head coach Kevin O'Connell said the star wideout return to the field against the Saints Sunday would be "a little aggressive."
The Vikings now have 21 days to activate Jefferson to the 53-man roster or shut him down for the season, with the receiver having been on the IR for four weeks due to a hamstring injury suffered in Week 5 against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Sounds to me like they are hedging their bet this season.
Why risk further injury to JJ when everything is up in the air with unproven commodities at QB1 and nothing coming out of the running game. :confused:
If the Vikes go 2-0 in the next two weeks to move to 7-4 overall, we probably see JJ Nov. 27th against da Bears. :blues brothers:
If the Vikes go 0-2 in the next two weeks with abysmal QB play, maybe they decide to shut JJ down for the rest of the year.
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Your right Steve-o, it's all up to how the QB position plays out. Who knows the way players are dropping we don't want to see Dobbs get hurt, but anyone think this team has a chance in the post season, especially with no running game??
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I was one of those who thought Kirk was a boring QB. Now I hope he comes back in good shape for us.
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Jefferson was limited in practice yday.https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/injuries/_/name/min/minnesota-vikings :scratch: He is probably going to want to play but this suggests probably not 'til against the Broncos. https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-3-roster-moves-including-192250688.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall :confused:
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Hockenson & Osborn both practiced a little yday. No Hall though & he's still listed as QB2. :scratch:
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Hall has been ruled out for Sunday & Morgan was released from the practice squad. Last I looked Mullens is still on IR too, so that only leaves Mannion to backup Dobbs.
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Thanks Gunner, I was wondering how it all was playing out. So two looks at Morgan and still didn't make it.
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I don't think they sign him to make the team. I think they sign him because he's cheap and he's local. They need somebody to run the scout teams during practice and he can provide that due to his advanced age and experience. Morgan will wind up being a coach in the near future.
Anyway, thats my guess.
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:scratch: I see Mannion is now on the depth chart, he wasn't this AM. :confused:
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I read that he is the backup. HELP!!!
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:Clap: https://www.vikings.com/news/dennis-ryan-equipment-room-surprise-47-year-career :cool: Also read where Hockenson will play today & that Osborn has passed concussion protocals but it's still a game time decision on if he plays.
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What a great story Gunner. Thanks for posting it. Very emotional story.
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Kirk, Kirk who??
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Kirk, Kirk who??
The kid is looking pretty good thus far. O'Connell is calling a perfect game for him. Very basic, few plays. Just react to what you see type stuff. Nothing there to overthink.
But remember, he has not stuck with any team for a reason.
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Like the fox pre game guys mentioned he hasn't found a fit, looks like he did in MN. He looked pretty comfy in the first half, hopefully another week of practice he'll get even more comfortable.
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I keep waiting for the bubble to burst.
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:scratch: Sure glad #87 was able to play & if Joseph makes that last kick, they win by 11.
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Another win and another great game. We have a lot of good guys out with injuries too so great that we are hanging in there. I'm thinking KOC is having a good time with this new QB.
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I hope Dobbs's found a fit. But then again, much/most of the fan base and the rest of the league had FINALLY warmed up Kirk Cousins playing some of this best football ever.
Next year do they take a chance with an aging, non-mobile QB coming off a devastating ankle injury, or do they take a chance with a journeyman who has age and mobility as his upside. :confused:
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That mobility is really a great concept isn't it? Just hope he doesn't get hurt. That is the downside of mobility.
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Kirk had/has 3 things going for him.
- Torn Achilles tendon aside, Kirk has demonstrated he does not typically get injured and is tough as nails. (Some guys' bodies in the NFL just don't stand up to the punishment. Staying healthy is a physiological gift that some guys have and others don't.)
- He is an accurate passer who still seems to have plenty of arm strength. You can't coach that.
- He looks as if he has figured 'it' out.* He is reading defenses fast and making quick decisions, which makes up for his lack of mobility.
*Like they've said in the past of P. Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and others.
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KO'C has said more than once that he would really like to see Cousins come back & Cousins has often said he doesn't want to leave so, I think Cousins signs a pretty team friendly deal to stay. I just looked at Dobb's deal & he must be only making the league minimum. So, I'd hope they could find a way to give him a nice raise & keep him too. However, he is a FA at the end of this season & with what he's done for the Vikings so far, there will be a lot of interest. I'm curious to look at the IL this morning too, LPS. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/joshua-dobbs-21877/cash-earnings
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KO'C has said more than once that he would really like to see Cousins come back & Cousins has often said he doesn't want to leave so, I think Cousins signs a pretty team friendly deal to stay...
No doubt. Who wouldn't like to keep a skilled QB playing at the top of his game for as long a possible.
So what do they do if they think Dobbs can be the QB of the future? Do you let that slip away to try to get one or two more seasons out of Kirk?*
I kind of like the way this is playing out. League history is full of 1st round QBs that didn't live up to the hype. In my opinion, many of them weren't given proper time to mature and develop. Look at Geno Smith. PFF has him as one of the top 10 QBs this season. Enter Josh Dobbs. He has had 7 seasons to learn, mature, and develop. He is smart, mobile, and we are going to find out if he can make all the throws in a pass-first offense the rest of this year. Two games with the Vikes and his first 7 games with the Cardinals... It looks like Dobbs is ready to make the most out of his opportunity. :cool:
Kirk gambled on himself again this year by not seeking and/or signing a team-friendly deal this past offseason. He was well on the way to earning another good contract, but things change fast in the NFL.
*And then when Kirk is gone, then what? Bottom out with a bad season, reach for a 1st round QB that has a 50/50 chance of being a serviceable QB after 3 seasons or being gone? Or sign another veteran QB looking for some redemption as a bridge to the next franchise QB?
Teams always like to think they are reloading instead of rebuilding. Two games isn't much of a sample size for Dobbs, but this MIGHT be the Vikes' chance to reload instead of rebuild.
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Like the fox pre game guys mentioned he hasn't found a fit, looks like he did in MN. He looked pretty comfy in the first half, hopefully another week of practice he'll get even more comfortable.
For a guy to come in and play his first few games without taking many snaps or know the play book shows a ton of natural ability. Hope they don't screw him up with all their goofy coaching ideas, just let the boy play! :bonk:
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I just looked at Dobb's deal & he must be only making the league minimum. So, I'd hope they could find a way to give him a nice raise & keep him too. However, he is a FA at the end of this season & with what he's done for the Vikings so far, there will be a lot of interest. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/joshua-dobbs-21877/cash-earnings
:scratch: Mullens has a year left on his 2.1 mil/yr deal so they trade him & Hall has 3 years left on his $4.1 mil/4 yr rookie deal, so they keep him. They give Dobbs most, if not all, of Mullens $ plus it's perfect scheme for him & he likes it here, so he stays. Cousins QB1, Dobbs QB2, Hall QB3. :cool:
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:scratch: https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/kirk-cousins-josh-dobbs-nfl-move/ :confused:
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yop good question Gunner...
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What are the chances of Kirk being QB #2? We have a ways to go to see how Dobbs does the rest of the season. Maybe they could be interchangeable. LOL
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Its all subterfuge. The Vikes saying they are still interested in having young guys develop behind Cousins is just sayin all the right things. I don't see Kirk stepping back to be QB2, but you never know. He is a different cat.
Small sample size... but if Dobbs does the job, and Kirk isn't under contract next season... And if Dobbs performs like a QB1 the rest of the way, pay him like one* and get him under contract next season and beyond. They still have Hall for QB2. Problem solved.
If Dobbs falters and can't make the throws and isn't going to the the quarterback of the future for the Vikes, they go back to Kirk who bridges till they get the next guy. Hall? Maybe. Problem Solved.
They got options, and right now, they aren't all bad.
*If Dobbs performs, they will have to pay him, because there will be lots of interest in him. However, the Vikes should have the inside track if they treat him well and offer him a fair deal. Dobbs "hasn't been paid" yet in the NFL and this is his shot to make the life-changing money those guys are all looking for.
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What are the chances of Kirk being QB #2? We have a ways to go to see how Dobbs does the rest of the season. Maybe they could be interchangeable. LOL
:scratch: I could see a case where Cousins gets the majority of the snaps every game but Dobbs also got a series or 2 just to change things up. The Saints have done that with their QB1 & Taysom Hill for at least the last 3-4 years. Hill even plays WR sometimes when they have injuries at that position. He had 2 catches yday, in fact.
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Cousins and Dobbs are both going to be looking for QB1 money, plus they have to sign JJ. :doah: (How about that for a wrinkle. ;) I'll eat my hat if they can figure out how to sign all three. Plus the O line could still be better, they have no running back, and the defense is going to need attention next off-season too. I digress.)
If you want to keep JJ, he has to feel good about the QB1 going forward or he is gone. :scratch:
Now who are they going to sign? :confused:
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There will be some restructuring throughout the league if the teams are all going to be missing 20 mil from TV contracts. Is that right? If so maybe that will play into it in our favor. Dobbsy is great so far but we shall see! He may end up as backup material before the season is over.
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Dobbs beat a terrible Atlanta team followed up by a equally bad New Orleans team followed up by a soon to be 3-6 Denver team.
Slow your roll. He's just a guy who hit the perfect schedule and perfect coach who gives him a handful of plays.
He isn't yesterday, today or any time soon a QB1.
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Ya gotta remember Dutch, the Falcons and Saints have a good Defense, offense is hit or miss. Not only has our run game been terrible this season but we've been missing some key players on both sides of the ball, even dating back when they were 1-4. 5 game winning streak, I'll take it. Dobbs has brought back the running threat and has everyone's attention, should be fun to Watch.
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Yea Dutchy, dont be such a Debbie downer!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: hop on that bandwagon bud!! :happy1:
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Don't misunderstand me, I'm enjoying what he's doing as much as everybody else. I'm just saying he was available for almost nothing for a reason. He hasn't played or beaten a good team yet, maybe he will, but history says he won't.
The discussion was how would the Vikings pay JJ along with (2) #1 quarterbacks. My point is they won't have to.
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Just giving you a hard time.
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Dobbs beat a terrible Atlanta team followed up by a equally bad New Orleans team followed up by a soon to be 3-6 Denver team.
Slow your roll. He's just a guy who hit the perfect schedule and perfect coach who gives him a handful of plays.
He isn't yesterday, today or any time soon a QB1.
I couldn't agree more Dutchy, there's absolutely no way he gets more than good QB2 $. Which in today's NFL is ~ $2.5-3 mil/yr & that is still a 200-300% raise from the most he's ever made.
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I can see that unless he lights it up the rest of the season. Would sure be fun but I have to see it to believe it. AND Thanks Dobbsy for any win you can get.
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With Jordan Hicks out for at least one game after suffering a leg injury that needed an emergency procedure Sunday, the Vikings are reportedly set to bring back former linebacker Anthony Barr, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.
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:happy1: Nice to hear that we could have some more depth at QB this week. :cool: https://www.vikings.com/news/o-connell-updates-jordan-hicks-justin-jefferson-qbs
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I'm not so much worried about depth at QB as I am about depth at WR.
KOD said they were being careful with JJ. I think that means they want to give Dobbs one more week to see what they have before they risk putting JJ back out there. We'll see. I want to see Dobbs and JJ get some practice/playing time together to develop some chemistry.
Perennial backups like Mullens and Mannion don't do anything for me. Same with Jaren Hall, a 5th round draft pick who is little more than a project for the future. However, I'm very anxious to see if Dobbs has that "IT" factor that every team is looking for. I hope he does and I think he might.
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Dobbs needs more games for a decent evaluation. Nice come back win at Atlanta. But the second half against New Orleans was forgettable. 3 points in a half won't get it done. But missing top 2 receivers and top 2 running backs makes it tough.
Denver is playing well now and Sunday's game could be tough. We will have to see.
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We have a lot of depth at WR as was evident Sunday when 5 guys caught 12 balls. Personally, I was more worried about Hockenson as he had 11 all by himself & he's not even on the IL this morning. :cool: Osborn is listed as Questionable, so he may be able to play Sunday too. JJ, himself, said late last week he wasn't going to play until he was 100% when he was asked about playing against the Saints. KO'C was asked about his 2nd half play calling in the post game press conference too. He pretty much said he was looking to protect the football a good share of the time & with so many injuries, I can't say I blame him. Denver won the GB game with an INT on their own 12 yd line with 1:40 left & the Broncos have had 9 forced TO's in their last 2 wins over KC & Buffalo. Russell Wilson has been playing a lot better but I think winning the TO battle will be key Sunday night.
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We have a lot of depth at WR ...
Maybe they don't need to sign JJ if since they have Addison and enough up-and-comers and they can use the money elsewhere. :scratch: :nerd: :popcorn:
Naw, I want JJ on the team. ;)
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I see they re-signed Myles Gaskin RB to the practice squad right away Monday. I think :scratch: that's at least the 3rd time they've done that this season.
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I suppose running the Wishbone offense is out of the question? :rotflmao:
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After the 1st practice of the week, we have 5 guys listed as Quetionable. Evans & Mattison didn't take part in practice while Hall & Hockenson, who wasn't even on the IL yday :scratch: when I looked, were limited during it. No updates on Asamoah as he is just listed as Questionable.
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:scratch: It looks like Hall will be able to play Sunday if he's needed as he practiced yday.
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Good I see Hall as the next one up.
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:scratch: Looks like it's Mullens now. https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/11/17/23966184/minnesota-vikings-denver-broncos-final-injury-reports
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So Halls concussion must have been pretty serious. The downfall of having your QB running the ball.
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Being a running quarterback in the NFL is a tough way to make a buck. However in the Vikings case they had no choice but to turn these guys loose. They had little to no experience and in Dobbs case didn't even know the plays. I can hear O'Connell now..."just go run around make a few plays and try not to get hurt."
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Jefferson listed as "Questionable."
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Jefferson out......probably till after the Bye Week.
Mullins will be the backup QB
Anthony Barr activated off the practice squad.
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Mattison is now expected to play, they activated Williams(CB) off the practice squad for some depth as Evans is still out, & Reed(OL) has been ruled out as well.
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Denver's defense is last in the league in yards allowed/game but they're # 10 against the pass, so I won't be too surprised to see KO'C call a few more running plays today. With Mattison's health the way it is, Chandler may get a few more chances today. They better keep an eye on Wilson though so he doesn't run us out of stadium & we will need to protect the ball too.
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"There were plenty of reasons why the Minnesota Vikings lost the game against the Denver Broncos by a score of 21-20. You could talk about the three turnovers that turned into nine Broncos points or the offensive line that couldn’t hold up against the pass rush."
"What was the most frustrating was the officiating on Sunday night. Not just because the Vikings lost the game, but also for player safety."
"Multiple times, the Broncos defenders hit a Vikings player recklessly and there wasn’t a flag thrown."
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Vikes like to run the prevent offense. When they need a touchdown to seal the deal, they are content to run the ball three times to burn as much clock as possible, kick the field goal, and turn it over to the defense. :pouty: But what do I know about football. :confused: That's right. Nothing. :bonk:
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"There were plenty of reasons why the Minnesota Vikings lost the game against the Denver Broncos by a score of 21-20. You could talk about the three turnovers that turned into nine Broncos points or the offensive line that couldn’t hold up against the pass rush."
"What was the most frustrating was the officiating on Sunday night. Not just because the Vikings lost the game, but also for player safety." "Multiple times, the Broncos defenders hit a Vikings player recklessly and there wasn’t a flag thrown."
https://news.yahoo.com/nfl-suspends-broncos-kareem-jackson-003246452.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall They got a FG off that & without that we get the W. There was another helmet-to-helmet with Mattison in the 2nd half that was pretty obvious too. :angry2: :pouty:
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But yet is cost us the game. What a bunch of BS.
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Vikings got outscored 12 to 3 in the 4th quarter. That's what cost them the game. This isn't flag football.
They are a decent team but not the champions you all dream of.
Sniff, sniff
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Dobbs is just different than what the Vikings had. Cousins stands in the pocket and looks for receivers. Dobbs takes off and runs hoping to find a receiver. Two different guys, two different approaches and two different ways they need to be coached.
Cousins can win you a game & Dobbs can lose you a game. Dobbs isn't the long term answer, he is a career backup put into a tough spot. Enjoy what you are getting but don't think for a minute he can beat the top echelon teams in the NFL.
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Yup, Dobbs is a stopgap thing to help us get by and it has worked real good. Now that everyone that we can't throw more than 20 yards they are all keyed on that. He is a lot of fun when it works and he did not lose that last game neither. Will be fun to see his development but I want to see Hall. He seems like more of a long term thing to me. ????? I don't know chkt.
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I agree, what little we got to see of Hall he seems to be a blend between Cousins with the ability to throw and Dobbs ability to run. I'd like to see more.
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Hall, Evans, & Asamoah are all listed as questionable today & they were all out yday. See how much they're able to practice this week & they might be able to play Monday. :scratch: Personally, I would be pretty surprised to see Hall start against the Bears though. If they don't stop the TOs, it won't matter who plays QB IMO. :rolleyes:
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:scratch: After yday's practice.................................... https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/11/23/23974166/chicago-bears-minnesota-vikings-initial-injury-reports
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Get Dobbs out of there and don't ever put him back in. I think KOC knew the bubble was going to pop and it just did. Get Hall in there. Worst half I think I have ever seen.
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Get Dobbs out of there and don't ever put him back in. I think KOC knew the bubble was going to pop and it just did. Get Hall in there. Worst half I think I have ever seen.
Agreed 100%!!!
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Agreed another 100%!!!
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That had to have been 1 of the worst NFL games I have seen. By both teams. The offenses were awful. :thumbs: :thumbs:
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Looked like neither team really wanted to win. Pretty half hearted effort, especially on the offense.
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And when our defense needed to be aggressive like they had been all game. They get conservative and loose the game. :pouty:
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:pouty: It wasn't all Dobb's fault IMO, we got our hands on 2 of those INTs & they probably should've been caught. I thought O'Connell called a terrible game too. :rolleyes: Why no easy throws starting out :scratch: to let Dobb's get a little rhythm going? :confused: That's what they've been doing. But yet, if Addison holds on to that 1st pass when he hits the ground it's probably a whole different game. No Hockenson until the 4th quarter? Why did they keep throwing at #33? I got a few more too. Still, 2-2 with QB 1, 2, & 3 down, I will take it & so would about 90% of the NFL.
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Not that I really know but I don't think there is much chemistry with Dobbs in there. That better be the last time we ever see him. I want to see Hall or even Mullens. If they aren't any better than Dobbs we may as well dump them too. And yes JB. Just like against Denver. We harassed them the whole game and then went into the dreaded prevent defense and let them march right down the field on the last drive and kick our azz. Terrible last drive D coaching just like the whole game of the O being outcoached by one of the worst teams in the league. I am losing a lot of faith in KOC.
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I think the Vikes should thank their lucky stars Dobbs was in there running around. Kirk might have been able to make quick reads to get the ball out fast, but he would have gotten killed in the pocked doing so. When you don't have a running game and the QB is under constant duress, ya gotta focus attention on the offensive line. :coffee:
KOC coaches not to loose at the end of the game. 1st and 2nd down runs that gain nothing at the end of games are not going to win games in the NFL. First downs and points are what put games on ice, and KOC is afraid to go after them both.
:surrender:
To KOC: Kick the flippin' 60 yard field goal. If he misses, its on you, KOC, because you wasted 1st and 2nd down - but at least give your team a chance to win instead of ALWAYS putting it on the defense. :doah: :angry:
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Worst half I think I have ever seen.
Vikings offense says at halftime, "Here, hold my beer." :doah: :embarrassed:
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:scratch: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/vikings_coach_kevin_oconnell_doesnt_commit_to_keeping_josh_dobbs_as_starter/s1_17236_39595616 Yeah, your right Steve-o the OL did suck.............time of possession in the first half................Bears 23:30/Vikings 6:30. :doah:
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And it sure didn't help to have JJ still sitting out last night. Hell, even if he was a decoy, he could have taken some of the pressure off the other receivers.
The Vikings have to let him sit as long as he wants, because if they pressure him back, he'll feel disrespected and will want to go to another team. It doesn't serve JJ and his bid for contract renegotiations to go in there with a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th string QB and put up numbers NOT becoming of the "best receiver in the NFL." He'll play again this season, but in doing so he seems to be limiting his exposure.
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What’s left behind is akin to a stink bomb potent enough to be utilized by the U.S. government for crowd control.
Dobbs ends the day 22-of-32 for 185 yards, one touchdown and four interceptions.
At the half, he had a passer rating of 21.9. Quarterbacks get a 39.6 for just throwing the football into the ground. Dobbs didn’t even get the points for spelling his name right on the ACT in the first half.
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Yes, and if it weren't for the Bears' penalties giving the Vikes at least 4 free first downs, there would have been less offense.
The receivers dropped/did not come up with several catchable balls - including two bombs that didn't quite go their way. Two of the INTs were on the receivers. They didn't help out Dobbs at all.
True, there was no tempo, rhythm, timing, or chemistry, but that wasn't necessarily Dobbs' fault. The Chicago rush was in on him immediately.
It won't matter who they put in at QB if the line can't protect.
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I think JJ would rather sit out instead of getting hurt catching one of Dobbs a foot or two behind where it should be passes.
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I think JJ ends up on a different team. I don't see how the Vikes will be able to sign a QB that JJ jibes with under the salary cap and still have enough money left over to improve the offensive line so they both can thrive.
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I think JJ would rather sit out instead of getting hurt catching one of Dobbs a foot or two behind where it should be passes.
:scratch: I think it might be just the opposite. He might've wanted to play but they thought they could win it without him & the doctors said he wasn't quite 100% yet. Besides, they probably thought that they would still be in the running for a playoff spot, like they are, if they lost.
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Just seen this.................https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/vikings_officially_activate_justin_jefferson_from_ir_waive_nkeal_harry/s1_16715_39597609
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I think JJ would rather sit out instead of getting hurt catching one of Dobbs a foot or two behind where it should be passes.
:scratch: I think it might be just the opposite. He might've wanted to play but they thought they could win it without him & the doctors said he wasn't quite 100% yet. Besides, they probably thought that they would still be in the running for a playoff spot, like they are, if they lost.
You might be right. You probably ARE right. But its a double-edged sword for these guys. They DO want to compete and be the best AND they want to get paid. Hate to see a guy miss out on life-changing money trying to save a lost season for a team that isn't positioned to make a run.
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Yeah, but they know that the risk of being seriously injured is very real every time they step on the field, even in practice. That is a major reason IMO why so many of the most successful ones workout all year & are even quite serious about their diet these days. A $100 mil contract is life changin but not so much if they struggle to even get out of bed or walk.
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They say the Vikings still have an 11% chance to win the division & a 58% chance to end up the #5 NFC seed :scratch: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38890147/2023-nfl-playoffs-afc-nfc-seed-projections-predictions-super-bowl
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My fingers are crossed.
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58% is better that we all thought they'd be after their horrendous start and the loss of Kapt. Kirk for the season and JJ for extended time.
Trouble is, they are trending in the wrong direction, with two bad losses in very winnable games. :thumbs:
The Bears game was darn near unwatchable. I did give up at the end and refused to watch 'da Bears :blues brothers: march down the field against the Vike's prevent defense for the winning field goal.
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We are screwed if they keep Dobbs in there. I don't know if I can even watch. He needs to go back to NASA.
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Actually 2 of those interceptions bounced off receivers hands. And on a third his arm was hit by a defensive lineman. Not really his fault.
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:scratch: It'll probably be about this time next week before we know much more about which way they're leaning for starting QB. But we do know it won't be Sean Mannion :rolleyes:, he was released on Monday. N'Keal Harry(WR) was waived too.
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:happy1: :happy1:
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Oh... I was getting Mannion confused with Mullins for a second. :doah:
I'm kinda numb at this point with the Vi-Queens. Pulling for Mullins or Dobbs or Hall is like rearranging deck chairs on the :titanic:. (I was wondering if I'd ever figure out a way to use that emoji. ;) ) Being a jaded MN sports fan, this does not seem like the team that I want to get emotionally invested in.
I hope they win and all, but they've still got to figure out the blocking and the run game.
I like that the defense is improved. Hunter is playing REALLY well in his "contract" year. A) I hope they can afford to keep him and B) if they do, I hope he continues to play at that level. For whatever reason, players often don't.
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The Vikings game against the Cincinnati Bengals in week 15 now has an official date and time. The game will take place on Saturday, December 16th and will kick off at 12 p.m. CT and air on the NFL Network.
1 of 3 games that day. Followed by.....
Steelers and Colts...Then
Broncos and Lions
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So why is that? Doesn't seem like any special day.
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I think they flex games at the end of the season so the best matchups get the primetime slots. That's my guess.
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No more regular college games on Saturdays. So NFL moves in and moves 3 of the better games from the next day Sunday.
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Kind of a long read but it gives some insight into the how & why of Flores's new defense. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39006295/how-minnesota-vikings-brian-flores-adopted-pittsburgh-panthers-defense
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No more regular college games on Saturdays. So NFL moves in and moves 3 of the better games from the next day Sunday.
That's right, forgot about the college thing. Good times when football is on Sat and Sun. :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Waiting for word on our QB. Supposed to announce today I hear.
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O'Connel says Josh Dobbs will be under center for a fifth consecutive game when the Vikings visit the Raiders Sunday afternoon in Las Vegas.
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Ya darn it. Makes me not even want to watch the game.
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Ya darn it. Makes me not even want to watch the game.
why?? it wasn't all his fault...
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I didn't get to watch either game they lost on prime time, I'll be watching this one. Put Dobbs in I say, if Hall is ready give him the ball if Dobbs can't do anything.
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O'Connell......“We’ve been in a process of trying to provide him with clarity on what we’re doing offensively and then we’re learning a lot about each other as we go,” O’Connell said of Dobbs. “That’s why I love having him here — his work ethic, spending a lot of time with him, getting to know him, and continuing to dive deeper into what helps him be the best version of himself. That’s what I know that we pride ourselves on around here, is helping our players do that."
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they play the raiders at 3;05 sunday!!!!!! :happy1:
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:bonk: :pouty: shoulda went with dutchy....... gonna be a long afternoon at this rate. :bonk: :bonk:
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At least the defense is keeping them in the game. Jefferson only lasted a quarter and a half. Out for the game. Taken to a hospital. :thumbs: :thumbs:
Vikes with 3 passing yards in the first half. :thumbs: :thumbs:
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:bonk: :pouty: shoulda went with dutchy....... gonna be a long afternoon at this rate. :bonk: :bonk:
Dutchy drives to fast, got home in time for the second half of this pig slop. Kids scored 16 goals combined which will be 13 more than the Vikings will score today.
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:bonk: :pouty: shoulda went with dutchy....... gonna be a long afternoon at this rate. :bonk: :bonk:
Dutchy drives to fast, got home in time for the second half of this pig slop. Kids scored 16 goals combined which will be 13 more than the Vikings will score today.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Why do I get sucked into this Vikings crap!!!
0-0 after 3 quarters??
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If you live within the border of Minnesota you have as good a chance of catching a Dobbs pass today as any receiver on the field.
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Wow new QB and across mid field!
Is a touchdown coming?
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There is a HUGE difference between a great defensive game and two putrid offenses.
But as bad as Dobbs was today, he wasn't the worse guy in the stadium, that distinction falls to Mark Sanchez on the mic.
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End of that. only lower score could be 2-0. :doofus: :doofus:
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That's 3 crappy offensive games in a row. :confused: :doofus:
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How can it be possible in this universe for a coach to take 3 quarters to put a different QB in when the score is 0-0? The two guys that have been practicing with the team for the last couple of years are on the bench for the last two embarrassing losses. ????
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Does the offensive line have anyone left? They were joking about having to put Hockenson in at Tackle.
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How can it be possible in this universe for a coach to take 3 quarters to put a different QB in when the score is 0-0? The two guys that have been practicing with the team for the last couple of years are on the bench for the last two embarrassing losses. ????
:tut: This is Mullens 2nd year with the Vikings but Hall was a 5th Rd pick this year. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4373632/jaren-hall Hall wasn't going to play anyway as he was inactive.
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Does the offensive line have anyone left? They were joking about having to put Hockenson in at Tackle.
Darrisaw played every snap, Bradbury might've too but that's it. Risner came back after 1/2 time. The IL could be 2 pages long this week. :pouty:
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O'Connel on Jefferson....."We wanted to rule out any potential complications from that so he did go to a local hospital and get evaluated and he has since returned and he will travel home with us," O'Connell said. "Feel pretty encouraged about the early news on Justin, now we'll have to see on a short week how he's able to turn over from this."
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So what happened to him? I was in and out of the garage and just caught a replay of him getting hit. Never really heard what happened.
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He took a big hit in the upper ribs going up for a pass across the middle. He winced as soon as he hit the ground but he tried to stay in the game anyway. He came out after the next play.
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The undrafted rookie LB from Cinncinnati, Pace, had a monster game yday. :bow: I hope he got a game ball & he could easily be the league's defensive player of the week IMO too. He had 13 tackles, 7 solos, the next closest was Metellus with 7. He also had a sack early as well as the INT at the end. :cool:
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O'Connel....." I consider Justin day-to-day with a good chance to hopefully be with us playing on Saturday in Cincinnati."
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We will seriously need him for this game. That's right it is a Sat game. AND it is at noon. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1: Then Steelers at Colts next and the evening game is Broncos at the Lions. A lot could happen on that day.
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His running mates from LSU Burrows (hurt) & Chase (their best player) play for the Bengals. He will play, although they will need somebody to throw the ball to him. Dobbs certainly can't. I feel sorry for anybody who still thinks this kid is anything but a backup.
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We will seriously need him for this game. That's right it is a Sat game. AND it is at noon. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1: Then Steelers at Colts next and the evening game is Broncos at the Lions. A lot could happen on that day.
Yup......Vikes at 12:00. NFL Channel... But then the game of the day
North Dakota State at Montana in FCS Semi finals. Final Four 3:30 ESPN2
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I didn't realize that until you mentioned it Dutch. I googled and as you already know, Burrows out for season with torn ligament in hand or thumb. That has to increase our chances of winning.
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Pile all your nickels on the Bengals for this one Barry. 28-10 Bengals. :smiley:
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LOL
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:scratch: The Bengals are 28th against the run & the pass, so they are 31st in total defense. However, they are #2 in TO margin, so ball securiity will be crucial IMO on Saturday. Plus, KO'C is 17-0 when winning the TO battle. The oddsmakers have it Cincy favored by 3.5.
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C'mon on Gunner, who ya gonna trust me or Vegas? :rotflmao:
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C'mon on Gunner, who ya gonna trust me or Vegas? :rotflmao:
That's a pretty easy 1, db. :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh: https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/12/12/23998962/nick-mullens-start-on-saturday-cincinnati-bengals-minnesota-vikings
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It looks like I was wrong on their schedule this week as it sounds like they will practice yet Thursday & travel on Friday. https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-tuesday-injury-report-estimates-for-mattison-oneill-jefferson
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OK,,,just for the halibut i tallied up the weekly winners to this point. here's what i got...... in no particular order either.
deadeye won 3 times
MRA...2 times
boar ..2 times....not sure how????? :rotflmao:
Markn.....1
boober.....1
Kenw .....1
Dakids....2
LPS......1
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Boar picked Vikings=2 this week. I like his chances for win # 3! :cheerleader:
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Boar picked Vikings=2 this week. I like his chances for win # 3! :cheerleader:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :bonk:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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:scratch: Didn't somebody here :whistling: say that this was probably gonna happen? ;) ;D https://www.vikings.com/news/linebacker-ivan-pace-jr-nfc-defensive-player-week-14 :applause:
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Good for him. I heard so many people complaining about him early this season. Glad to see he is having fun and doing good.
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:scratch: Really? Almost eveything I've heard & read has been good right from the beginning of training camp when he was already taking some snaps with the starting defense. :confused:
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Was just some guy on the radio that was talking bad about him and he did it a couple of times too. Surprised me.
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:scratch: Probably just throwing some :bs: against the wall & seeing if it'll stick. :rolleyes:
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O'Neill & Mattison are out for Saturday, Nailor too.
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Darn, we may need all of the help we can get.
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The Bengals have been running the ball a lot(63 carries) the last 2 games they've won, so Flores will have to plan on a way to stop that. They will need to win the TO battle again too. :cheerleader:
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:evil: :sleazy: for those that cant watch...... vikes 7 cinncy 3 with 2;23 left in 1rst qtr!!!!!
i'm sure dutchy is listening to Paul Allen on the radio!!!!!! :sleazy: :happy1: :rotflmao:
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The dope on channel 4 doing the game sounds like Allen to me. They / he are equally bad.
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Mullens should have been in 2 games ago. He did a good job but both times he wilted down by the end zone cost us the game. Those previous 2 losses would have been a good time to have him in there to get up to speed.
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If they can't get 1 yard on 2 plays they don't deserve to win. :pouty: :thumbs:
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Maybe it's just the way I see things but I thought Mullins had all the drive of a new born calf with his legs. The whole team couldn't have pushed him across. But thats just the way I saw it.
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Maybe it's just the way I see things but I thought Mullins had all the drive of a new born calf with his legs. The whole team couldn't have pushed him across. But thats just the way I saw it.
i was listening to it on the radio and thought what the hello.....having a wide reciever push him, thats what 180 lbs soaking wet???? :doofus: hy not Ham, or one of the bigger TE's!!!!!
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K'OC after the game: The decision to have Powell be the push player behind Mullens in the "tush push" was an odd one. O'Connell said he "wanted to stay in 11 personnel to try to keep them out of goal line defense or anything like that," but why not use T.J. Hockenson or even Justin Jefferson in that situation instead of the shortest player on the team? Powell is listed at 5'8" and 181 pounds. It probably didn't matter on the second sneak because Mullens didn't handle the snap cleanly, but maybe it could've made a difference on the first one.
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Such a simple play and terrible execution. Speaking of execution.....
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Or how about putting Ham in and run play action?
I can see why he went for it though... the defense looked gassed.
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Personally, I would've liked to see 'em use Hockenson in that spot. Maybe even have him fake like he's going to block & throw him a quick screen instead. :scratch:
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Truth be told... I think Mullins got lucky on that last touchdown to Addison. He was going down and that had interception written all over it.
He's got to figure out how to get rid of the ball quicker when coverage breaks down so he has time (and strength) to launch it down the field and out of bounds - so he doesn't have to deal with fumbles, interceptions, and intentional grounding.
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More stupid INTs when they are in the red zone will have him back on the bench in short order IMO. For instance, Mullens’ second-quarter interception that he tossed into the lap of B.J. Hill while being drug to the ground was a poor decision that has been deemed one of the worst interceptions of all time. :banghead: Found that here: https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/nick-mullens-kevin-oconnell-nfl-news/
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It just goes to show you how hard it is to play QB in the NFL. Its easy for us to say he has to cover up and take that sack, but in the heat of the moment, their brain and their body is on a page of their own.
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It is finally time for them to put Hall in for the rest of the season. Mullens is there for emergencies and won't be with us long. Give Hall a shot and see if he is another Purdy or even close.
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I agree. It's not going to be Mullens or Dobbs. Lets see what Hall can do. There could be 10 QB's taken in the first round. Get one if Hall isn't the answer. Sign Cousins for another year or 2 and get a first round choice ready to take over.
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Exactly
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Trouble is, they ain't out of it yet. They still have between a 47.5 and 55% chance of making the playoffs (depending on who is doing the figuring).
We may disagree who the starting QB should be, but from the Vikings perspective, I think they are still obligated to play the guy who gives them the best chance to beat Detroit.
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True
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Short term strategies will not yield long term gains.
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You are management material Roony, and I agree completely.
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How's the schedule go, Lions, fudge ( packers), Lions? We could easily play the Lions first round, that's if the vikes make it that far. That's alotta Lions in a short amount of time. I'm with you guys, give Mullins another start but keep Hall up to speed ..
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It just goes to show you how hard it is to play QB in the NFL. Its easy for us to say he has to cover up and take that sack, but in the heat of the moment, their brain and their body is on a page of their own.
The best ones are able to mentally slow the game down because they understand what is probably going to happen on both sides of the ball & are then able to adjust. That is why being able to quickly read defenses well is often a game changer. Many of the younger QBs struggle with that, at least for the 1st few years.
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The OC shares part of the responsibility on some those INTs too, as he needs to be in his guy's ear telling him that they probably have points now as long as they hold on to the ball.
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I'm sure the OC and coaches are in his ear. I have to believe - with subs exspecially - their heads fill up fast when you tell them too many things to remember. At some point you just have to trust them, let them play, and live with the good and the bad. That's why they are subs.
Mullins might get better with more game experience. Some guys take advantage of their opportunity when they get it, and never look back - becoming starters. And other guys demonstrate to the league why they were 2nd stringers in the first place.
For as much as we love Case Keenum around here, he still hasn't become QB1 for anyone.
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Vikings injury report this week.
OLB Danielle Hunter (illness): Did not practice
RB Alexander Mattison (ankle): Did not practice
CB Byron Murphy Jr. (knee): Did not practice
WR Jalen Nailor (concussion): Did not practice
RT Brian O’Neill (ankle): Did not practice
NT Harrison Phillips (back): Did not practice
DE Jonathan Bullard (ankle): Limited
NT Sheldon Day (ankle): Limited
ILB Jordan Hicks (shin): Full
The holdovers from last week are Nailor, O’Neill and Mattison. All three of them not practicing is important in their attempt to come back
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Unreal. Looks like some walk-ons may get a chance this week.
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There's 1 more practice today, so we'll have to see what the IL looks like tomorrow.
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"Did not practice" could be dinged up veterans resting after a rough season. Hopefully some of them will be ready game day.
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:scratch: I think Hunter, Mattison, & Phillips will probably be ready to go but I'm not so sure about Murphy & O'Neill. :confused:
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No Mattison or Phillips today............... https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-week-16-injury-report-201637334.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
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They practiced yday. https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/6_vikings_questionable_for_north_showdown_against_lions/s1_17017_39713212
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good gawd!!!!!!! :doah: :doah: :puke: :surrender:
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Lets review the guys who wanted to run Cousins outa town when the season started.
What are watching is your future without Cousins. :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: maybe i should not watch. :doah: went up at half time to do some things....come back down vikes are ahead!
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Addison.....out
Hockenson.....out
Receiving corps in trouble.
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:pouty: :bonk: Mullens what a friggin pud!!!!!!!!
i'll never critic cousin Kirk again!!! :bow:
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Nick Mullens is St. Nick for the Detroit Lions, gift wraps them NFC North
:pouty: :pouty:
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The refs gave the Lions a present, too, with that roughing the passer call on Patrick Jones.
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Better finally play Hall now.
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Seen this last week but forgot to post it. https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/12/22/24012011/minnesota-vikings-replace-u-s-bank-stadium-playing-surface-2024
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Seen this last week but forgot to post it. https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/12/22/24012011/minnesota-vikings-replace-u-s-bank-stadium-playing-surface-2024
The NFLPA has attempted to get all 32 NFL stadiums to install natural grass in their facilities, but a study apparently found that putting natural grass inside of U.S. Bank Stadium. . .which hosts around 200 other events per year in addition to Vikings’ football. . .was not feasible.
Someone would lose a bunch of revenue if they couldn't hold other events. Its all about the money.
Still... 200 OTHER events per year? :confused: That sounds like a bit of an exaggeration, don't cha think? That would be like hosting a Taylor Swift concert every other day at US Bank Stadium. :coffee:
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After throwing six interceptions in two starts – both close losses – Nick Mullens could find himself back on the sidelines for the Minnesota Vikings' Sunday night border battle against the Green Bay Packers.
"Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Vikings are taking a long look at whether Mullens should be benched for rookie Jaren Hall," Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio reported Tuesday morning.
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I love it!
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Yeah, its time. Give the kid some reps.
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Head coach Kevin O’Connell confirmed in his Tuesday press conference that suffered a torn ACL and MCL during Sunday’s loss to the Lions.
It’s a significant blow to the Vikings’ offense, as Hockenson leads the team with 95 catches and 960 yards in his first full season with the club. While Hockenson will finish with 15 games played, both are career highs for the 26-year-old tight end. Hockenson also has five touchdowns.
O’Connell also mentioned that receiver Jordan Addison (ankle) and cornerback Mekhi Blackmon (shoulder) are both day-to-day.
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Wonnum is done for the year too & might not play another down for the Vikes as he's a FA at the end of the season. He's had a breakout year too as the pricey FA, Davenport, has been a bust. :pouty:
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Man it is going to be hard to sign all of these guys. Would be great to see Hall excel in all of this.
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It will be an interesting off season and it all starts with 1a) will a hobbled Kirk finally give the Vikes a hometown discount and 1b) will JJ sign a long term deal. And will there be any money left for other players. :confused:
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Cousins could take a hometown discount.
The Vikings could give him an $25 million over the going rate for being a nice team player.
Neither should. Pay him fair market value.
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:scratch: I think both sides weren't very far apart on the $ last season & it was more about Cousins wanting a 2 year deal. They weren't able to figure out how to get that done & not create more cap issues. With the injury this year his FA market value has probably slipped a little & Cousins has said over & over that he wants to stay so I believe he'll sign a team friendly deal as he wants to win too. Something like a $60-$70 mil/2 year incentive loaded deal IMO, which after this season the team will probably jump on. :confused:
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Agree completely.
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I think Hall is gonna start and I think JJ is excited about it from a FTW thing on Youtube.
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I think Hall is gonna start and I think JJ is excited about it from a FTW thing on Youtube.
He's happy there won't be balls over his head he has to stretch for, balls in front just out of his reach, balls behind him. He was lucky Mullins didn't get him killed. Mullins threw the ball everywhere but on target in-stride.
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Dobbs left them hanging too.
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Dobbs left them hanging too.
He sure did. But fortunately the DB's got to the ball before blowing up the receivers.
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:scratch: I read where Mullens got 1/2 of the snaps on Tuesday but I didn't see anyting on yday's practice. I would think we'd hear more after today's practice. :confused: Seen this though: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/packers_star_cb_suspended_for_odd_reason_ahead_of_critical_game_vs_vikings/s1_13132_39729405
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I see there is a fight between the company that owns KARE 11 and Direct TV. KARE is raising rates to Direct by double digits and they can't afford to pay it so since Nov KARE hasn't been on I guess. SO the game may not be on for youse by the chitties. (Dotch terminology) LOL
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Seen this though: https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/packers_star_cb_suspended_for_odd_reason_ahead_of_critical_game_vs_vikings/s1_13132_39729405
What a maroon!
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that's because he's the captain!! ask him he'll tell ya!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I talked to a friend who was at the game on Sunday. He said the Dobbs jerseys were already on the clearance rack in the team store.
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https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/jaren-hall-nick-mullens-starter-packers/ :applause:
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The latest on the IL...................https://www.vikings.com/news/packers-week-17-injury-report
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Man that is a lot of injuries. Been a long season.
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So......2 games left. What do we hope for. Wins and playoffs. Where they probably won't get far. Or lose both and get a top 10 draft pick to try and get a Franchise QB.
I will find it really tough to want the Packers to beat the Vikings!! :confused:
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Could the quarterback carousel drop a former Super Bowl champion in Kevin O'Connell's lap this offseason?
According to sports gambling company BetOnline, the Vikings are the favorites to land soon-to-be-former Broncos QB Russell Wilson, at 5/1 odds. The Patriots come in at a close second with 6/1 odds with the Commanders and Raiders tied at 7/1 odds.
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Let him go to the other teams. I don't think we can afford him.
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Give cousins the money. Wilson is washed up. No need for him here.
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I will find it really tough to want the Packers to beat the Vikings!! :confused:
Couldn’t root for the Packers under almost any circumstances. Well, maybe when they play the Cowboys.
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Not a Wilson fan. Seems like he developed a primadonna attitude after his first couple years as a pro. Just my opinion.
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I will find it really tough to want the Packers to beat the Vikings!! :confused:
Couldn’t root for the Packers under almost any circumstances. Well, maybe when they play the Cowboys.
I would root for the cowboys myself. Only when it might benefit the Vikes do I root for the pack. I would rather have Cousins than Wilson also.
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Anybody else think the $13,659 fine of Jefferson is an over reaction? He made a “gun” gesture at a camera after scoring a touchdown. I hope the NFL spends the fine money on training the officials.
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Ya I think it may be a little overreacting BUT there are a lot of thugs watching and maybe they don't need any suggestive antics. ???? Maybe just warning him of what they expect would have been enough.
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:scratch: He got fined after a TD earlier this year too. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10103021-video-vikings-justin-jefferson-fined-for-violent-gesture-after-td-vs-lions :confused:
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How stupid. Just more pussification of the NFL. :crazy:
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Personally I'd like to see them fine players for the stupid anticsof any kind. Do your effing job and get ready for the next down.
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I tend to agree with you Roony. The next thing you know they will be doing gang signs on the field.
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The NFL needs the fine money to print hoodies and banners so the players think they care about them. When it comes to the game vs politics the cat is outa the bag in the NFL also. Soon in addition to pushing questionable drugs and gambling there will be commercials showing players smoking dope from their favorite dispensary.
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It's all part of their CBA. What they can be fined for & even how much the fines are for the 1st & 2nd offenses. :tut: The NFL keeps none of the money, db, it all goes to 2 non-profits. https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E210US1289G0&p=NFL+fines+being+part+of+their+CBA
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Just like everything else in this country now. Respect towards each other has really eroded the last few years. The way we see people act with no class precipitates others acting like azzholes too.
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I tend to agree with you Roony. The next thing you know they will be doing gang signs on the field.
The link says they can be fined & suspended for that. :tut:
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Jake Browning... Vikes didn't need em. :doah:
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BREAKING: VIKES SIGN A NEW QB
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Probably better then Mullens :happy1: :rotflmao:
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Well.....with Seattle loss, the Packers would be eliminated with a loss. Vikings would still be alive with a loss.
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:pouty: Well, that was a lot of fun. :doah:
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:pouty: Well, that was a lot of fun. :doah:
I found a Jack Reacher movie :happy1:
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I haven't seen a beating that bad since they stuck a banana in my pants and turned the monkeys loose!
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Stunk.....just like they did against Denver and the Bears. Maybe they just just go
Rock, Paper, Scissors to see who plays QB in the last game.
:surrender: :surrender: :surrender:
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:scratch: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10103183-vikings-hc-kevin-oconnell-all-options-are-on-the-table-for-qb-for-week-18
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Especially since Detroit has nothing to play for. Will probably rest their starters.
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:scratch: I think they can still get the #2 seed if the Cowboys & Eagles were to lose next week. They play Washington & the NYG respectively, on the road. :confused:
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How much is left of KOC's contract?
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KOC seems like a nice guy but something is wrong in paradise. KAM needs to go too. We need a football GM not an accountant.
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:scratch: Yeah, maybe they should see what Zimmer & Speilman are doing? :crazy: :pouty: It's only been 2 years, give 'em a chance. :banghead: Zimmer had 6 years & Speilman had 15 to see what they could do, so I don't think either of KO'C or Mensah will be going anywhere, anytime soon. :rolleyes:
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I suppose you are right Gunner. Did you all see the highlights of how open the packers were on almost all of the catches they made? Was embarrassing how open they were. Nooone within 5 yards in some of them. Just like the D didn't know what to do.
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I suppose you are right Gunner. Did you all see the highlights of how open the packers were on almost all of the catches they made? Was embarrassing how open they were. Nooone within 5 yards in some of them. Just like the D didn't know what to do.
Everybody was making Flores out to be the second coming of Jesus when they were beating nobody teams. Fact is he is a good not great coach that has bad players.
Remember, you can't win the Kentucky Derby riding a plow horse.
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GB ran for almost 180 yds & they had 4 sacks, we had 0. The secondary has been suspect all season but Flores has been able to get pressure on the opponent's QB, no so last night. GB's OL & DL played really well, ours did not. Love was real good too. Vikes had 5 on D out injured too but that's no excuse as just about everybody has that. :rolleyes:
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Flores did what u want a coach to do. He took a historically bad defense, created a scheme that worked with the talent they had, and he had them over achieving for much of the season. They just ran out of horses at the end.
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:scratch: I do think they missed Wonnum last night though as he's our #2 sack guy with 8. That allowed then to double team Hunter more, if they needed too.
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But most importantly did the Packers send out the correct personal for the coin toss? :rotflmao: Just kidding, the Vikings didn't play well at all is the bottom line. There's always next year. Keep the faith.
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I truly thing they threw the game to increase the draft pic. Why not?
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One thing the Vikrs don't have to do is throw a game. It comes pretty natural for them.
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Injuries on both sides of the ball, yeah the pack figured out our secondary as Collinsworth said, God I got sick of listening to him...
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:scratch: I like him, he tells it..............like it is.............more than most & doesn't really care what everybody has to say on the internet. :cool:
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I can handle him for awhile but then he drives me nuts. I want to turn the sound down.
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I can handle him for awhile but then he drives me nuts. I want to turn the sound down.
I've heard a few people say that. I think he gets particularly tiresome when your team is losing.
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:scratch: I like him, he tells it..............like it is.............more than most & doesn't really care what everybody has to say on the internet. :cool:
Me too.
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He is OK.....prefer Tony Romo.
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It is looking more and more like Kirk Cousins or bust for the Minnesota Vikings at QB in 2024, though a dark horse candidate to assume control of Kevin O’Connell’s offense has emerged over the past month.
The Cleveland Browns have clinched an AFC playoff berth on the strength of a four-game win streak captained by resurgent quarterback Joe Flacco, who has thrown for 300 yards in four consecutive games. Before signing with the Browns, Flacco reached out to the Vikings and expressed his interest in joining the franchise following Cousins’ achilles injury. However, Minnesota rebuffed the quarterback, which has since proved a considerable mistake.
Flacco is bound for free agency in March and has already announced his intention to play for two more years.
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as Collinsworth said, God I got sick of listening to him...
Amen, brother. Long, long ago I liked him, but that changed more every year I’ve had the displeasure of listening to him.
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He is OK.....prefer Tony Romo.
Yeah, I like Nance & Romo too. Surprisingly, I don't mind Aikman & Buck either.
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What a dreadful call by not signing Flacco.
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At least they conned us into building them a stadium.
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He is OK.....prefer Tony Romo.
Yeah, I like Nance & Romo too. Surprisingly, I don't mind Aikman & Buck either.
Paul Allen on the radio!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: :rotflmao:
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I've tried that but up here there is a lag of a second or two the last time I tried. That drives you nuts.
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I've tried that but up here there is a lag of a second or two the last time I tried. That drives you nuts.
Same here if you have satellite TV.
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What a dreadful call by not signing Flacco.
Flacco's signed a $2.5 mil/1 yr deal with the Browns. With incentives he could make another $4 mil if they win it all. :scratch: I seriously doubt the Vikings could make him an offer like that. Especially with Mullens, Hall, & Dobbs already getting a bit > $4.5 mil combined. :confused:
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Dobbs is a free agent. Won't be back. Might as well cut Mullins. Then they would have enough to sign Flacco for 2 years. No Dobbs, No Mullins, AND no Cousins.
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:scratch: I was talking this season. :confused: Yeah I agree, Dobbs & Mullens should both be gone & that will free up some $. Mullens does have another year left @ $ 2 mil, so it would probably be better if they could trade him. But I also think Flacco's price will go up after the season he's had as well. Last but not least, I believe Cousins comes back.
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keep Cousins...........i know i cant believe i said that!!!!!1 :rolleyes: :rotflmao: Flacco can go elsewhere!!!!! they need to clean house on the backups and start over.
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keep Cousins...........i know i cant believe i said that!!!!!1 :rolleyes: :rotflmao: Flacco can go elsewhere!!!!! they need to clean house on the backups and start over.
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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You shocked me Glenn. LOL BUT I was down on Cousins too and I have done a 180. I hope his Achilles heals properly. He is a health nut so should go good. They may be afraid to have Flacco around in case he does do well and then what do they do??? May create a lot of stress in the future. Like at the end of this season if we would have gotten him. Who knows. I don't just speculating
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My wife had something intelligent to say over the weekend while I was watching football. I get a bit riled up about all the antics that go on from the Swifty nonsense to Cousins going shirtless blowing the horn to the stupid antics after a play. She said the NFL isn't about the game of football it's just entertainment. Sad but true, she is correct.
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I kinda liked the shirtless-Cousins bit. It showed he doesn't take himself too seriously. I enjoyed the peek behind the curtains (beginning with the plane ride tik-tok video) with Kirk wearing the chains and acting like a goof and watching it as it evolved to the Galler Horn thing.
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I think he looked like a effing jack-ass.
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Mullens starting against the Lions.
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Injury report today.....
CB Byron Murphy Jr. (knee): Did not practice
WR Jalen Nailor (concussion): Did not practice
RT Brian O’Neill (ankle): Did not practice
DE Jaquelin Roy (ankle): Did not practice
CB Mekhi Blackmon (shoulder): Limited
RG Ed Ingram (shoulder): Limited
S Theo Jackson (toe): Limited
TE Nick Muse (knee): Limited
S Harrison Smith (shoulder): Limited
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From what I saw of Blackmon against the Packers "limited" describes ability and practice time. :sleazy:
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Haven't heard much speculation that this could be Harrison Smith's last game. Your thoughts?
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These guys could be playing their final game on Sunday....
Harrison Smith
Danielle Hunter
K.J. Osborn
Jordan Hicks
Lewis Cine
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:scratch: Smith was seriously considering retiring last season is what I read. Then they hired Flores & that helped him decide to come back. He took a pretty good cut in pay to do it too. Been another tough year, so I can see where he might want to retire while he's still healthy. But I hope he doesn't as he can still play, plus it would great for Bynum & Metellus IMO. :confused:
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They will need money to pay Jefferson and a QB (Cousins???) Smith will probably retire. Hunter will want to much even though he had a good season. With Addison on the team, Osborne will most likely go free agent. Hicks might come back. He played well in Flores's defense. Cine won't be missed. Barely played.
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I agree on those guys, Ken, but it looks like almost 1/2 the team will be free agents according to this. :scratch: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/minnesota-vikin
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I looked at several teams on that website. Just click on the team you want and it lists them. Almost every team I looked at has as many or more as the Vikings do.
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:scratch: I looked at all 32 teams & only found Carolina along with Detroit with as many as the Vikings(27), & Houston has 28. :confused: The total # for each team is on the left just above the 1st player's name after you pick the team & update the page.
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I checked quite a few and most are in the 20s. I would guess most are second and third stringers. QB's are usually the highest paid on a team.
It really isn't how many are on the list, but who is on the list. The Vikings have 2 of the top 5 paid free agents in Cousins and Hunter. That's $52 million for 2 players.
And Jefferson wants to be the highest paid receiver.....
Tyreek Hill, Miami Dolphins: $30 million (4 years, $120 million)
Davante Adams, Las Vegas Raiders: $28 million (5 years, $140 million)
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Yeah, 17-18 of our FAs aren't starters & are making ~$2.5 mil or less. It looks like almost 1/2(8) are on the last year of their rookie deal too, as they are making < $1 mil. Bosa's new deal with LAC is for 5 years & $135 mil.
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sign JJ, capt kirk and Hunter!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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:scratch: Found this & thought some here might be interested as 4 Vikings made their list. I was pretty surprised with 1 of them. :confused: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2024-free-agency-primer-best-free-agents-every-position
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I agree with you, Gunner. But in the back of my mind I wonder if Dobbs could have worked out. He had a couple good games, followed by a couple of terrible games. I don’t think Mullins did any better, and maybe with a little more time in the system……..?
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If the Queens eek out a dubya, anyone know who all has to loose for dem to get in da playoffs? :confused:
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I agree with you, Gunner. But in the back of my mind I wonder if Dobbs could have worked out. He had a couple good games, followed by a couple of terrible games. I don’t think Mullins did any better, and maybe with a little more time in the system……..?
When Dobbs was good was the first two games when there was a very limited offense put in for him and very little tape on him. When they included more offense it caused him to have to think instead of reacting. A structured offense isn't for him. Give him pass plays with 2 reads and then run, thats his game. Release him 10 minutes after the final game, he's a nice story but barely a serviceable quarterback.
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:scratch: Obviously, some of the people doing the analytics disagree with you db or they wouldn't have him rated as the #2 FA at QB. I too was surprised to see him ranked that high. Then if you look at the guys behind him on their list, 6 out of the 8 have had more success as a backup & more experience as a starter. :confused:
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If they keep Dobbs I will find a different favorite team to watch.
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:scratch: Do you get Packer games, LPS? ;) :rolleyes: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1:
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If the Queens eek out a dubya, anyone know who all has to loose for dem to get in da playoffs? :confused:
:scratch: So...............................you say there's a chance? :smiley: There is....................but it looks slim to none to me. :rolleyes: https://www.vikings.com/news/nfc-playoff-picture-status-after-week-17 :pouty:
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:scratch: Obviously the people doing the analytics disagree with you db or they wouldn't have him rated as the #2 FA at QB. I too was surprised to see him ranked that high. Then if you look at the guys behind him on their list, 6 out of the 8 have had more success as a backup & more experience as a starter. :confused:
I'll be honest I don't read the links that get posted. I wouldn't know who was ranked #1 or #10. Being the skeptic I am I take those rankings as info they get from a phone call or text to the agents, teams or bookies. Maybe they know something, maybe they don't. The only thing I know about Dobbs & Mullins is what my eyes told me. My eyes told me Dobbs didn't have the time to process the information and then get the ball down the field if he had to make several reads. Maybe there was more to it.
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Here is an example from the Athletic of tossing mud against the wall to see what sticks. IMO Stevie Wonder could have seen most of these situations.
Russini: What I’m hearing about the NFL coaching carousel entering Week 18
By Dianna Russini
4h ago
Most of my conversations around the NFL this past week centered on coach and general manager firings that are expected to go down early Monday. We’ll get to that in a minute.
Over the past 10 years, when I was a television reporter on air with this information, I never had an opportunity to express to those watching that digging up intel on whether someone was about to be fired can be insensitive and sad for many reasons, specifically for those families
Most coaches will tell you it’s a performance-based business they willingly signed up for. They know if you don’t win in this league, you won’t last. However, it still stinks to lose a job.
Now it is my job to find out and share with you what I’m hearing, so let’s get to it.
NFL's Black Monday stories: 'For the coaches and families, it’s an absolute nightmare'
The conversations around the league during the last month have really changed. Around Thanksgiving, it seemed that there could be a record number of firings, but better performances saved some jobs, and in one case organizational fear of getting it wrong again saved a coach and his staff.
I still expect there to be multiple firings Monday and maybe one or two more during the playoffs.
It’s all centered around New England …
New England Patriots
Robert Kraft has a big decision to make on the future of Bill Belichick. The 71-year-old Belichick wants to keep coaching, he still can coach, and the players in New England are still playing hard. After a season filled with so much talk about the end of the Belichick era, along with reports of the Kraft family being open to change, here’s what I know from conversations with multiple league sources:
• There is a meeting set for next week between owner Robert Kraft, Jonathan Kraft and Belichick.
• There are some who work for the team who are expecting changes and have started to put out feelers about jobs elsewhere.
• There are other organizations, like the Commanders and Raiders, hoping to get a chance to meet with Belichick. There are more teams in the shadows, but that will depend on outcomes from Week 18 games and playoff results.
• There has been chatter for months that if the Patriots part ways with Belichick, Houston Texans general manager Nick Caserio, a former longtime member of the personnel brain trust in New England, would want an opportunity to return to the Patriots as their general manager. But based on my conversations with league sources, Houston is where the 48-year-old wants to be.
Why would Caserio want to leave the Texans after leading the way in drafting a star-studded rookie class led by quarterback C.J. Stroud? He also hired DeMeco Ryans in 2023, and the relationship is flourishing. Caserio is on his way to building something special, and he wants to stick around to chase after his seventh Super Bowl ring, this time with the Texans.
Why the Patriots' Bill Belichick-Robert Kraft partnership is on the verge of a breakup
Washington Commanders
Ron Rivera has worn many hats in Washington during his four years as head coach. At different times he seemed to be playing the part of owner, general manager, public relations official and head coach. After serving in all of those roles, on Monday he might not have one. I was told by league sources that Rivera and his staff are well aware his time in Washington is coming to an end.
Though this season started with promise, new owner Josh Harris began discussions in search of a new head coach and general manager a few weeks back, according to a league source. The Commanders are keeping an eye on what happens in New England while hoping to hire a general manager first before landing their next head coach.
Los Angeles Chargers
The Chargers are casting a wide net, and that means looking at every option. I’ve been told by a league source they prefer to hire someone who has head coach experience and are hoping to avoid a first-time head coach. Does that mean potential head coaches like Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson or Miami Dolphins offensive coordinator Frank Smith are out of the running? No, not if ownership can be convinced.
University of Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh, who recently hired NFL agent Don Yee (who represents both Tom Brady and Sean Payton), is a top candidate for Los Angeles. We’ll see how aggressive the Spanos family will get and if they are the first team to get Harbaugh on the phone after Monday’s College Football Playoff championship game.
Las Vegas Raiders
Even if owner Mark Davis wanted to hire Antonio Pierce, he can’t officially make him the head coach right after the Raiders’ final game Sunday. Ownership is required to interview at least two external candidates who are minorities to abide by the NFL’s Rooney Rule. The player endorsements for Pierce have been strong the last few weeks, and it’s apparent he has the locker room’s trust. Does this help? Sometimes. Does it get you the job? Not always.
Davis has always made it known that a team in Las Vegas needs a star coach. Harbaugh is very much atop his list, as is Belichick if he leaves New England. If you recall, Davis wanted to hire Harbaugh in 2015 before the coach took the Michigan job.
Atlanta Falcons
Falcons owner Arthur Blank and head coach Arthur Smith have always had a healthy, communicative relationship. They’ve had three years together, and on Sunday they have a chance to get into the playoffs with a win against the New Orleans Saints and some help from the Carolina Panthers. Smith has a six-year deal with the Falcons and has helped in the rebuilding of the roster, but they are still missing the most important piece — quarterback.
This season Blank has been unhappy with losing and inconsistent play at the QB position. He has been publicly noncommittal on the future of his head coach, and after an offseason that produced a reloaded defense and tons of highly drafted offensive players, he has reasons to be frustrated.
Internally, the sense is the staff will get another shot at this, but 81-year-old Blank isn’t getting any younger. He wants to win now. He has had conversations with people around the league that lead me to believe he’s tempted to make the move. Keep an eye out for Blank to take a big swing for Belichick too if he moves on from Smith. This isn’t a rebuild in Atlanta anymore.
Carolina Panthers
Owner David Tepper is going to try again for Ben Johnson, according to a league source. The play-caller is open to the job and will also be meeting with other teams that are expected to show interest, the source said. There’s a sense around the league that general manager Scott Fitterer may help with some of the transition but still may not be safe in his job. Carolina could be starting anew.
New Orleans Saints
The Saints staff has been operating the last few weeks as if Dennis Allen is going to stay on as head coach. Allen appears to be safe, but in conversations with league sources, I’d expect there to be changes made to some of the staff.
Chicago Bears
Team CEO/president Kevin Warren has been watching, taking notes and evaluating his head coach and team all season. Though ownership will have the final say on the future of Matt Eberflus and staff, Warren will have a strong hand in the decision. Warren recently shared that he appreciates the energy of the team around Halas Hall but offered no endorsements of his head coach.
So what can we expect from Warren? He hasn’t made any knee-jerk decisions this season, giving the staff the entire regular season to show they are the right group. He’s described as methodical. Unemotional. A planner. His decisions are all being made with a long-term approach, so while Sunday’s game against the Green Bay Packers feels huge for the staff and quarterback Justin Fields, I don’t believe one game is going to move the needle either way.
Before I let you go …
Dallas Cowboys players were told this week they cannot make the same mistake the Patriots made in 2019 in their regular-season finale against a divisional opponent. Here’s the situation:
The Cowboys can clinch the NFC East and lock in the NFC’s No. 2 seed with a win Sunday against the 14-point underdog Commanders in Washington. Though Dallas fans shouldn’t be worried about a Washington team led by Sam Howell, they can’t overlook the Commanders. This is where the Patriots come in.
In 2019, the Patriots were 14-point favorites over the Dolphins at home, looking to lock up the AFC East against a Miami team with not much to play for. But New England lost, then hosted a wild-card game against the Tennessee Titans the next week. It lost that game, too, and Tom Brady never played for the Patriots again. According to a league source, the message to the Cowboys this week was, “We can’t squander the No. 2 seed.”
If that happens? I would add Mike McCarthy to my list of coaches in trouble.
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Good info......Black Monday in 2 days.
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Yup, always fun to hear the moves/fires.
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I told the boys these purple bandanas are lucky so the Vikings will win today... I don't think they believe me. 🤣🤣🏈🏈 Go Sportsball!
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can't hardly blame them!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Vikings probably won't make playoffs. So we want a higher draft pick. 4 teams with 7 wins. These 3 need to win today. Bears, Falcons, Raiders. All are ahead of Vikes with 7 wins. Jets have 6. But Don't know which is higher if they are tied at 7 wins.
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The way it looks at halftime the likes can call and make golf reservations.
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I tooned in the middle if the first quarter long enough to watch the Kitties run 2 plays and score their second TD, but didn't stay long enough to see them miss the extra point.
:thumbs:
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I'm fishin :happy1:
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they from yesterday??? asking for a friend... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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they from yesterday??? asking for a friend... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: tell that friend to buzz off. :tut: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Don't you have a 4" minimum up there? ;)
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Neat trick harpooning crappies.. :bow:
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Neat trick harpooning crappies.. :bow:
:rotflmao: :happy1: dsmn straight. :happy1: 40 from water.. stuck them at 3o ft.
Dutchy.. there double that :sleazy:
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Neat trick harpooning crappies.. :bow:
:rotflmao: :happy1: dsmn straight. :happy1: 40 from water.. stuck them at 3o ft.
Dutchy.. there double that :sleazy:
Cuz theres two of them or is that a 200 gallon pail? :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: dutchy... since this is the Vikings thread. . I'd venture to guess I scored more inches then the Vikings scored points. :sleazy: I got more in da bucket now. :happy1:
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If the Queens eek out a dubya, anyone know who all has to loose for dem to get in da playoffs? :confused:
:scratch: So...............................you say there's a chance? :smiley: There is....................but it looks slim to none to me. :rolleyes: https://www.vikings.com/news/nfc-playoff-picture-status-after-week-17 :pouty:
For what it is worth...
Besides the Vikes needing to beat the Lions to have a chance to get into the playoffs with help from other teams losing...
NONE of the other four games that played a factor in the fate of the Vikes elimination went in favor of the Vikes. :doah:
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https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/heres-who-the-vikings-will-face-in-the-2024-nfl-season
who knows....
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It's official: The Minnesota Vikings will pick 11th in the 2024 NFL Draft.
Having started the day in position for the 12th pick, the Vikings had a chance of ending the day with a Top 10 pick after losing to the Detroit Lions in the early slate.
They moved up to 11th thanks to the Las Vegas Raiders' defeat of the Denver Broncos, but the Green Bay Packers' beating the Chicago Bears denied the Vikings another move up to No. 10.
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Hopefully we'll find out what it takes to move up from 10 to 3, 4, or 5... assuming the vikes are serious about drafting the qb of the future with or without #8.
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Wonder if they couldn't dangle Bradbury, someone must need a third stringer somewhere..
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He has gotten better and put on weight and muscle but still just too small. Remember Curt Lowdermilk? He was here as center for years and he was one big guy. He plugged the middle hole just by being there. Remember the Williams boys on D? They also plugged holes just by being there plus they were athletic and smart too. We need meat on the lines or the backs just have to work harder.
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Vikings general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah on Wednesday provided a clear answer when asked if he wants Cousins back as the team's quarterback next season.
"Yeah. I've been pretty consistent with that. Kirk the player is somebody that, as we saw what he does to this team, I thought we were playing really good football before he got injured. It's the most important position in sports. It ultimately always comes down to can you find an agreement that works for both sides and all those things, but as a player it's certainly my intention to have him back here," Adofo-Mensah said.
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It ultimately always comes down to can you find an agreement that works for both sides and all those things. ????
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Spielman said the same thing... "its my intention to bring back so-and-so..." and the next week they were gone.
All GMs say the right thing, which may or may not have anything to do with how things turn out... it all depends on how they turn out. :coffee:
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Vikings will give up 1 home game and play it in London again this year. Don't know when or against who yet. So they will be the home team.
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Considered one of Kirk Cousins‘ closest confidants and study partners in the Minnesota Vikings quarterback room, veteran Sean Mannion has closed the books on his playing career and crossed the border, joining the Green Bay Packers as a coach next season.
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and only 31
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SO maybe Cousins to the Bears and the Pack didn't want his hand holder to go with him. ?????
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Considered one of Kirk Cousins‘ closest confidants and study partners in the Minnesota Vikings quarterback room, veteran Sean Mannion has closed the books on his playing career and crossed the border, joining the Green Bay Packers as a coach next season.
:scratch: :scratch: :scratch: so a career backup QB, and not a very good one, now he's gonna help and teach other QB's?????? :shocked: :surrender:
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Mr Z had an interview for the now open DC job in Dallas in the last few days too.
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Considered one of Kirk Cousins‘ closest confidants and study partners in the Minnesota Vikings quarterback room, veteran Sean Mannion has closed the books on his playing career and crossed the border, joining the Green Bay Packers as a coach next season.
:scratch: :scratch: :scratch: so a career backup QB, and not a very good one, now he's gonna help and teach other QB's?????? :shocked: :surrender:
Often times the best players make bad coaches and vice versa.
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Do the Vikings have the best NFL team name?
Viewers of Travis and Jason Kelce’s “New Heights” podcast think so.
The Kelce brothers did a best NFL team name bracket in which they posted polls on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, to see who their audience thought boasted the best name in the league.
It came down to two finalists — the Vikings and Pittsburgh Steelers.
The Vikings won the final with 60.6% of the 36,919 votes.
“You play in Minnesota, that’s a fun place to play in, man,” Travis said. “That’s a beautiful stadium, their crowd gets (expletive) into it and they’re not pricks, they’re not (expletive), they just (expletive) love some good football, baby.”
Travis said Vikings is a great name and gave a shoutout to the Skol chant.
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I agree completely.
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The stoic, nordic Vikes lost some of their mystique and cache when the moved in doors, but they do have a good thing going now with one of the best stadiums in the league.
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Stadiums don't win football games.
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Stadiums don't win football games.
The goal is to put butts in seats, thats the first goal. There wouldn't be butts in seats in a outdoor stadium. The state and populous is soft, very soft these days.
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I disagree, football fans would show up no matter indoor or outdoor games. Look at the playoff game at the time of TCF stadium. In ways we've turned soft, but playoff football brings out the hardy.
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Without a doubt and not even close that the indoor stadium is a win win situation. Fun to watch outside games in bad weather but the players don't especially like it and the fans my age don't either. I used to hit the Met and was a blast but.
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I also saw Vikes games at the old Met. But as you say.....I was in my 20's. I'll take the new indoor stadium every time now. :happy1: :happy1:
And it's interesting that 2 players think it's a good place to play the game. :happy1: :happy1:
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I have business associates in the Green Bay Area and enjoyed many invitations to watch the Vikings play the Packers at Lambeau. If the Vikings game was late in the year, they would switch my invite to a different team and sell or donate the cold weather game against the Vikings.
One of the most memorable games was against the Broncos when Elway almost pulled off a come from behind win, but was sacked by Reggie White 2-3 times in the final minutes.
No empty seats in Lambeau even on the coldest days.
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Having said all that, the games up until November were always fun outside. After that the inside is the way to go.
Truthfully, most of the time I’d rather sit inside, eating better food, parked in my garage, and watch the game on TV.
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I also saw Vikes games at the old Met. But as you say.....I was in my 20's. I'll take the new indoor stadium every time now. :happy1: :happy1:
And it's interesting that 2 players think it's a good place to play the game. :happy1: :happy1:
same here and watched the Vikes and 49'ers in the play offs!!! fun but colder then heck!!
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The wife has never been to a Vikes game and we keep talking about going to one but it is so fun to watch at home like was said. Good food when the game is over we are already here and don't have to spend hundreds of dollars to do it. The games go so fast when there too.
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this is where i differ........i'm not spending that kid of money on tickets.....to the Vikes or Twins to have weather cancel or delay it. and i dont think its in the best interest health wise to playing outdoors when its 20below or windchills that high. :confused:
if anything they need to seriously look at the turf these guys are playing on.....alot more injuries!
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The Vikes will have new turf by the time the new season starts.
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Spend spend spend
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They would have changed last year but there was 1 year of warranty on the existing turf so they waited a year. The Vikes and about 3 other teams have this turf that is not the safest. That is why they are changing.
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Does the warrantee cover Cousin's bloen out achiles? Just sayin.
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Did the fully do their do diligence on the existing turf? Just sayin'.
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I'm sure the NFL & NFLPA has spent many millions on the best turf to cut down on injuries. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38624943/inside-nfl-turf-debate-injuries-safety-measures-more
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One thing I have learned in my short life is that its a heck of a lot easier to spend someone else's money than it is your own.
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The vast majority of these stadiums are publicly owned & are kept quite busy. A couple are even said to host 200 events a year :scratch:, so durability & the cost of maintenance of the field have to enter in to the decision too.
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Everybody's at the Scouting Combine where workouts start tomorrow, but the Vikes signed a new coach yday. https://www.vikings.com/news/josh-mccown-quarterbacks-coach-2024
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Everybody's at the Scouting Combine where workouts start tomorrow, but the Vikes signed a new coach yday. https://www.vikings.com/news/josh-mccown-quarterbacks-coach-2024
:rolleyes: :doah: :scratch: i have a hard time grasping why or how a career backup QB is coaching material??? and maybe younger then Capt Kirk????
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The guy he was with in Carolina, Frank Reich, is considered by many to be 1 of the best QB coaches the league has seen in quite a while.
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:scratch: Before he joined the NFL coaching ranks, McCown was an assistant coach at Myers Park High School during the 2019 season. Myers Park was quarterbacked at the time by current top draft prospect Drake Maye. The Vikings have been rumored to be interested in moving up in the draft to get their QB of the future. Maye is widely considered to be a top-three pick in the upcoming draft. :confused:
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I heard them talking on KFAN the other day but didn't hear it all but McCown was the QB when the Cardinals knocked us out of the playoffs. They mentioned Larry Fitzgerald too. SO he beat us. LOL
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Googled it Dec 28, 2003. Culpepper was our QB. Last play of the game McCown hit a receiver in the end zone from about 25 yards and beat us. They label it as Paul Allens most memorable call. He calls a great game but that loss I could almost remember. LOL I don't know how to post it or I would.
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KO'C got his 1st job as a QB coach with the Browns in 2015 & McCown was 1 of their QB's then. https://www.startribune.com/new-vikings-qbs-coach-josh-mccown-following-in-kevin-oconnells-footsteps/600346887/
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After last years parade of backups maybe he suits up this year.
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LOL Ya really.
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:scratch: Not sure he's another TB12, db, as he'll turn 45 in July. But you never know!! :rolleyes:
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I see the Vikes are letting Mattison go and will save about 3.5 mill. We will know how the Cousins thing works out by March 12 or 13 I believe.
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The Minnesota Vikings continue to negotiate with pending free agent Kirk Cousins but according to reports from ESPN's Dan Graziano and Jeremy Fowler there may be a gap between what Cousins wants and what the Vikings are offering.
"The sense I'm getting is Minnesota still wants Cousins to return, but Cousins has a very specific idea in mind for what he wants in a new contract and the Vikings so far have not made an offer that matches it,"
"The feeling around the league is that Minnesota is hopeful, they want to do a deal with Cousins but they're not going to live and die by it," Fowler said. "They're going to have limits here. Those limits are probably pertaining to the guaranteed money in the contract."
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For some reason this Santa cartoon is attached to this. Nothing to do with the Vikes. Can't delete it. :confused: :confused: :confused:
But then, I would probably have to agree that Santa is a Republican.
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I think Cousins will be playing in Atlanta next year. His wife is from Atlanta and her folks live there. Rumors are they are looking at houses down there and schools for their kids. The Vikes have had a year to resign him. I don't blame him at all. We will know next week when Free Agency begins.
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It is kinda sad though. He could have taken a team friendly deal and built around him some more. If he truly wants a ring. Ge already has the money, but no ring. :pouty:
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Greed, he's been just following the money trail. Wouldn't you? Good luck getting a ring in Atlanta.
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Good luck getting a ring in Atlanta.
Well, MN ain't exactly on the brink of winning a superbowl either. :doah:
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Greed, he's been just following the money trail. Wouldn't you? Good luck getting a ring in Atlanta.
Their potential is higher than Minnesota.
Kirk has pushed the envelope his whole career. Remember Washington franchised tag him multiple times and each time he got a better contract just going year to year. Then he signed hos big deal here with a unheard of amount of guaranteed money. Now he is staring at his last contract....why would anybody expect him not to squeeze every nickel from the NFL that he can.
See ya later Kirk, I don't know that you will ever get that ring but you will never be selling pencils on the corner to eat either. ;)
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We aren't even close to even getting to a Super Bowl let alone winning it. With Kirk or not. SO get rid of him and use the money to head in a winning direction. Keeping him is heading in the losing direction. Nothing against him. He is very good at marketing himself.
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[Atlanta's] potential is higher than Minnesota.
And if I buy two lottery tickets, I double my chances of winning, right? :rotflmao:
SO get rid of him and use the money to head in a winning direction. Keeping him is heading in the losing direction.
Thing is, unless you want to blow the whole thing up and start over, you have to figure out how to keep JJ. If you have to keep Kirk for 2 or 3 years to mollify JJ, maybe that is what they keep trying to do.
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:scratch: I agree Steve-o, if #8 leaves, #18 probably won't want to stick around for a rebuild either IMO. :sad:
Their 2 best guys at getting to the QB, Hunter & Wonnum, are FA's too & many think they are both gone too. :rolleyes:
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They can use the transition tag 1 year and the franchise tag 1 year on Jefferson. So they could keep him at least 3 more.
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:scratch: But if they can't get him the ball why would they want pay him what will probably be somewhere near $70 million for those 3 years? :confused:
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Any QB should be able to get the ball to him.
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If Kirk leaves trade JJ, get what you can while the getting is good. He isn't the only one that can catch a ball, there'll be more. Get some upper picks and see what happens. Like you guys said the queens aren't even close to go deep in the playoffs yet..
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I am pretty sure Kirk is gone. I don't like the term hater most of the time but I wasn't a big fan of Kirk a lot of times. I did like him other times. He only got us to 1 playoff game, isn't that right? Well there is no big deal to say good bye to him. Save 30 or 40 mil. I really like JJ but he could get hurt again and not be worth crap to us. That is a negative angle. The positive one is if he stays here he could be instrumental to helping a young QB succeed. Big time! We have almost 40 mil now to play with. Let Kirk go and add another nice chunk. Now I hate to even talk about this but Harry the Hitman is maybe getting close to retirement too. He costs 11 mill this year. The wife and I each have an official 19 Theilen and 22 Smith jerseys. SO after many years will have a full checkbook. How fun is that to think about? May be the best offseason ever.
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Any QB should be able to get the ball to him.
:scratch: They had 1 TD on the ground in the 1st 10 games last season. There's 2 ways to stop a passing offense in today's NFL, 1 is coverage & the other is pressure. So, he will see a lot of double teams, especially on 3rd down. When they're not doubling him, they will be blitzing. :confused:
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Funny how fans view the different sports.
If the Vikings want to spend $40 million per year on a quarterback people think it would be foolish.
If the Twins don't spend $30 million on a player they are cheap.
If the Timber Puppys have 3 players getting $30 million each nobody cares.
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Yeah, NBA salaries are crazy. Naz Reid the T'wolves backup center will make just about $13 mil this season. :rolleyes:
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Funny how fans view the different sports.
If the Vikings want to spend $40 million per year on a quarterback people think it would be foolish. (8 regular season home games, 60 players)
If the Twins don't spend $30 million on a player they are cheap. (81 regular season home games, 26 players)
If the Timber Puppys have 3 players getting $30 million each nobody cares.(41 regular season home games, 12 players)
I have to believe that NFL still has the highest income for endorsements, merch, etc. but the NBA is probably more popular in that regard than MLB.
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Of the highest 100 paid athletes in the world including endorsements.....40 are NBA players. Only 14 are in the NFL. Surprisingly 4 of the top 6 are foreign Soccer players.
Highest paid American athlete is LeBron James number 4 at $126 million.
I see Russell Wilson is at $38 million and he got cut by the Broncos today.
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I believe the Vikes have made Cousins their final offer.....2 year contract, fully paid next season. Not in 2025. He will not agree and will leave to go to either Atlanta or maybe New England where they will give him what he wants.
Probably Atlanta which is in the weakest division in the NFL. He can win there.
So who will they sign.....Baker Mayfield or maybe Sam Darold who will also be a free agent next week.
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So much for his hometown discount. Greedy bastard.
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So much for his hometown discount. Greedy bastard.
X2
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I never read where he ever said he would give a hometown discount nor should he.
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:scratch: I think during negotiations last season he was said to have agreed to take a little less per year (AAV)..................if they gave him an extra year & more guaranteed money. But obviously, they didn't want to do that. I've read a couple places that they're interested in the Michigan guy, J.J. McCarthy. Mel Kiper has the top 3 QB's going to the Bears, Washington, & NE with picks 1-3. :confused:
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Maybe his wife is making him not play nice, do thete forced to srbd him packing so they can move next to her mommy and daddy! :scratch: :shocked: :happy1:
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I agree with the part I could understand. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I agree with the part I could understand. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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i'm trying to perfect my boaranze!!!!! :sleazy: :nerd: :nerd: :rotflmao:
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Kapt. Kirk has been underappreciated every step of his career. It wasn't til this past year that Vikings fans really embraced him and gave him credit for his performance the year before - and then the ankle went out.
All of those guys are alpha competitors, but they also have to be realistic that - as a team - you need to catch lightening in a bottle to win a superbowl. They all wanna win and they all wanna get paid!
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Kapt. Kirk has been underappreciated every step of his career. It wasn't til this past year that Vikings fans really embraced him and gave him credit for his performance the year before - and then the ankle went out.
All of those guys are alpha competitors, but they also have to be realistic that - as a team - you need to catch lightening in a bottle to win a superbowl. They all wanna win and they all wanna get paid!
:pouty: but there's no I in team!!!!!! :confused: :doah:
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But thers an M and a E
And that spells ME!!
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But thers an M and a E
And that spells ME!!
Good point. :happy1:
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See ya.
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Hey Glenn, whats the union stance on accepting below market contracts?
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Hey Glenn, whats the union stance on accepting below market contracts?
:scratch: Probably the same as the NFLPA's. :whistling: ;) :smiley:
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But thers an M and a E
And that spells ME!!
pretty hard to win the big one with just a ME!!!!! :mooning:
Dutchy......unions usually set the pace.......usually with well trained individuals who also work together!!! :happy1:
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But thers an M and a E
And that spells ME!!
pretty hard to win the big one with just a ME!!!!! :mooning:
Dutchy......unions usually set the pace.......usually with well trained individuals who also work together!!! :happy1:
Whats that even mean?
The NFLPA is the players union. My point was the UNION isn't encouraging Cousins to take a below market deal. Cousins is their golden goose who started all the big money guaranteed contracts, they will be pushing him to grab the most money for the longest term. I can imagine the term "hometown discount" sits as well with the union as the term "tax rebate / refund" does to Walz.
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that be the first of a Union suggesting that........
these are individual contracts being negotiated between the player agent and team...........unions negotiate for the group as a whole....not individual contracts.
i have no skin in the cousins game.....frankly could care less. what baffles me is the fact that the team and player sign a binding contract and yet the team can still cut him or the player still under contract doesnt show up for work.
wouldnt happen in a real life union faculity!!!!!!!
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I think the big guaranteed contracts are coming to an end. He broke the market.
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i have actually warmed up to being a COUSINS fan........ :shocked: better then the alternatives right now..... JJ is making some comments i'm not sure about both ways.
i'd rather see the Vikes draft a QB if Cousins leaves then get someone like Wilson!!!!!! :doofus:
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Seems like Cousins is wanting $100 mil for 2 years guaranteed.
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Seems like Cousins is wanting $100 mil for 2 years guaranteed.
good on him if he gets it......still think he's playing the hard ball to move south .
i'd laugh my assets off he dont get close to it. but just my opinion.
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I can imagine the term "hometown discount" sits as well with the union as the term "tax rebate / refund" does to Walz.
Now THATS funny. :happy1: No, wait... :scratch: :embarrassed: :angry: :angry2:
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I can imagine the term "hometown discount" sits as well with the union as the term "tax rebate / refund" does to Walz.
Now THATS funny. :happy1: No, wait... :scratch: :embarrassed: :angry: :angry2:
:confused: :pouty: well i can tell you as a 45 year member of a Union............13 1/2 as a rep that did negotiations.......i know of at least 8 times, maybe 10, that the members voted to take a "discount" on wages and benefits to the employers to keep the employer viable!!!!!!
prove me wrong!!!!!!!
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My agst was directed at the Walz part of the quote, not Kapt. K giving the hometown discount.
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You are trying to compare apples to onions.
The NFL & the Wilfs ain't going broke. The union will be in there bleeding every nickel and penny they can get. You can paint the negotiation any way you like but there is only one side the union is backing.
I still haven't read a viable reason for Cousins to give any kind of discount. Maybe he should go back to Washington for less money?
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:scratch: Even the least profitable NFL teams made almost a 1/2 billion $ in 2022, so there's really not much concern over them going broke. :rolleyes: The Vikings sat at #20 out of the 32 teams in the league with a $540,000,000 profit that year. https://www.statista.com/statistics/193553/revenue-of-national-football-league-teams-in-2010/
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You are trying to compare apples to onions.
The NFL & the Wilfs ain't going broke. The union will be in there bleeding every nickel and penny they can get. You can paint the negotiation any way you like but there is only one side the union is backing.
I still haven't read a viable reason for Cousins to give any kind of discount. Maybe he should go back to Washington for less money?
i never said anything about cousins taking or not taking a hometown discount......dont care.
your pretty much comparing apples to oranges also.........the Wilfs and any other owner will try and bleed a nickel anyway they can too. also comparing NFL negotiations to real life normal everyday negotiations between employers and your everyday employee isnt even remotely close!!!!!
yea the union is backing the members.as they should........but the owners are looking out for there own pocketbook also!!!!! no surprise on either side there!!!!!
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In the end it is about cap space anyway. That was why they were talking about hometown discount. Because Capt wanted to stay here. But it is what it is. Guess he doesn't want to stay that bad.
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Exactly JB. Kirk as said he wants to retire here. One would think he would shuffle numbers like many many players have done to stay where they like. BUT it looks like money is more important than loyalty to him. Completely his call but does say a lot about him. He may not be as young and good now that he was injured as he thinks he is. If so good for him. I am curious to see how it turns out. He has shown his desire to be here already so let him walk.
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Yuppers.
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:scratch: I'm pretty sure it was a program that originally aired on Friday & replayed again today. On NFL Live(ESPN) they reported that the Vikes front office told them that they had a" budgetary decision" to make by Monday on #8's future with the team. I know if he does leave he'll take $28.5 million in dead cap space with him. :rolleyes:
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Haven't heard much about it :scratch: but it appears #18 might have more on his mind than just getting his new deal done. :confused: https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/justin-jefferson-legal-paternity-battle-andrea-galea/
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Haven't heard much about it :scratch: but it appears #18 might have more on his mind than just getting his new deal done. :confused: https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/justin-jefferson-legal-paternity-battle-andrea-galea/
:pouty: yea just another pro athlete that cant keep it in the pants!!! :doah: :confused:
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And she is an attorney! That may not bode well for JJ.
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And she is an attorney! That may not bode well for JJ.
being an attorney wont do much depending on the paternity test!!!!!!! but yea it could be trouble!!!!!! :surrender:
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That's the NFL... providing never-ending drama for fans.
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Vikes have 26 players who will hit Free Agency on Monday. That's half the team.
:crazy: :crazy:
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That may be one of the main reason why the Cousins deal hasn't been done.
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Vikes have 26 players who will hit Free Agency on Monday. That's half the team.
:crazy: :crazy:
:scratch: It says 25 here but maybe they signed 1 already. :confused: https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/top_news/25-free-agents
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Vikes have 26 players who will hit Free Agency on Monday. That's half the team.
:crazy: :crazy:
:scratch: It says 25 here but maybe they signed 1 already. :confused: https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/top_news/25-free-agents
One publication probably counted all of last years back-up quarterbacks as one. ;)
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Vikes have 26 players who will hit Free Agency on Monday. That's half the team.
:crazy: :crazy:
:scratch: It says 25 here but maybe they signed 1 already. :confused: https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/top_news/25-free-agents
One publication probably counted all of last years back-up quarterbacks as one. ;)
yea no doubt!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Vikes have 26 players who will hit Free Agency on Monday. That's half the team.
:crazy: :crazy:
:scratch: It says 25 here but maybe they signed 1 already. :confused: https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/top_news/25-free-agents
One publication probably counted all of last years back-up quarterbacks as one. ;)
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:yea
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:doofus: Wasn't 1 a rookie? :confused: ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
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Vikes weren't willing to go that much or that long.
So long Kirk
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Las Vegas betting odds now for NFC North.....
Detroit +160
Green Bay +215
Chicago +300
Minnesota +550
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Kirk won't last the season
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Las Vegas betting odds now for NFC North.....
Detroit +160
Green Bay +215
Chicago +300
Minnesota +550
Just as well trade #18 too, IMO. :thumbs: Might be able to get a QB that can get it done in 2-3 years that way. :pouty:
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I don't disagree with you. I wonder what 1 year of JJ is worth to a team, since he only has 1 year til free-agency. :scratch:
I'd package JJ in a deal to move up and get a franchise QB and worry about the rest later. They just have to be right about the guy they pick.
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I think the Franchise QB's will be gone 1,2,3. Those teams all need QB's. JJ is worth to much to trade any lower.
Bears getting rid of Fields
Washington needs a QB
New England getting rid of Jones.
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Greenard's signing likely means that they will let Hunter walk as Greenard is younger & probably cheaper too. The Miami guy, Van Ginkel(OLB), they signed is good pass rusher, so they may be about to let Wonnum & Davenport both go as well. They signed another Houston player & ex-Gopher LB early yday too. A few hours later Hicks signed with the Browns. https://purpleptsd.com/2024/vikings/top_news/blake-cashman/
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Would be great to have JJ here to help the new QB get receptions. BUT if we got a lot for him in trade it may be something we need to consider. Hate to see him go though.
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Vikings are reportedly interested in GB's FA RB, Aaron Jones too. :scratch:
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sounds like they signed him 7 mil
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29 years old, coming off a season where injury hindered his production.
Maybe he can tell us the Green Bay snap counts. :bonk:
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There appears to be a method to what Vikings general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah and coach Kevin O’Connell are doing at quarterback and there’s no reason to believe that either consider the 26-year-old Darnold to be the solution.
What Darnold should be is a small part of the process that will focus on the Vikings identifying their real quarterback of the future in the draft this April. There are multiple possibilities for the Vikings,
Doesn't look like they will sign Hunter. With both him and Cousins gone it frees up money to build.
This is the end of the Zimmer/Spielman ERA. Time for new Kwesi Adofo-Mensah and Kevin O’Connell to build THEIR team for the future. Look for them to get a rookie QB in the draft. Don't know who they are focusing on. Looking to build toward 2025 season.
They could trade up or also trade down for more picks or stay where they are and take Penex from Washington.
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Better trade up for the big prize! This is their chance.
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Penex won't satisfy the fan base.
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Mayes or McCarthy.
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Mayes will be long gone. McCarthy might be around but I doubt it unless they move up.
We will see.
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This is the end of the Zimmer/Spielman ERA. Time for new Kwesi Adofo-Mensah and Kevin O’Connell to build THEIR team for the future. ... Looking to build toward 2025 season.
I don't disagree, but there is something here that reminds me of Ol' Smoke n' Mirrors telling Gopher nation that his first year under contract was actually Year 0 in his rebuilding process.
But objectively, and to KA-M an KO'C's credit, they did put together an over-achieving squad in 2022 and did their best to build on that in 2023 with practically zero cap space to work with. So in "P.J. Fleck Years", 2023 was Year 0 of the Vikings "reloading" process and 2022 was Year -1. :rotflmao:
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:scratch: McCarthy has been moving up the draft board & is expected to be gone long before we have a pick unless they move up, is what I've been reading. Penix Jr is expected to have a good chance of being on the board yet at #11. The experts are saying that both McCarthy & Penix Jr could be ready to play as rookies. But most think Mayes will need to sit at least a season, maybe more. The guy from Oregon, Bo Nix, is projected as not being ready either & could go as late as Rd 3, some are saying. :confused:
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About the only thing they all agree on is that the Bears take the USC guy #1. Washington & NE are expected to take a QB too, but they don't agree on which 1. :scratch: Many have Daniels going #2, so that'd leave McCarthy or Mayes for NE. Most think Arizona will take Marvin Harrison #4. A lot can happen between now & April 25th. :confused:
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I think it goes like this?
"Give us your tired, your poor and old
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
The wretched refuse of your teams!" -Zygi Wilf :scratch: :bonk:
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:scratch: Derrick Henry is a year older than Jones & the Ravens signed him to a $16 mil/2 year deal.
One of the mini themes of this free agent cycle is fan-favorite running backs landing with division rivals. It happened when Saquon Barkley agreed to sign with the Eagles on Monday and now it's Aaron Jones turning in his cheesehead for a Vikings helmet. The veteran back agreed to terms with Minnesota after he was released by the Packers on Monday after they agreed to terms with Josh Jacobs. While Jones is creeping toward 30, he is still a highly impactful back judging by his five-straight 100-yard rushing games to end last season. On a one-year, $7 million deal, this is a tremendous get for Minnesota, which struggled to run the ball in 2023. I like the Jones signing, as long as he can stay healthy. But none of our much younger guys were able to stay on the field last season either. Including the rookie, Chandler, who will turn 26 in May. We shall see. :confused:
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:doah: Besides, Jones seemed like he always had 150+ yds, 5-6 catches, & a couple TDs against the Vikes. :rolleyes:
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Hunter signs with Houston.....49 Million for 2 years. No way the Vikes were going to pay that.
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See ya
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God bless 'em.
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Hunter signs with Houston.....49 Million for 2 years. No way the Vikes were going to pay that.
Yeah, & $48 million is guaranteed.
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Sounds like he has a good agent! :happy1:
"OK, Houston... we ONLY need $48M of it guaranteed." :rotflmao:
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Good for him. Unreal.
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Bullard, 1 of our best against the run, signs a new 1-year deal & #22 restructures his deal to stay. :happy1: :cool: https://www.dailynorseman.com/2024/3/13/24100112/minnesota-vikings-harrison-smith-agree-restructured-contract
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I was worried about Harry. Glad he is staying on the team.
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Yes. He's probably lost a step or two the past couple of seasons, but he is a fan favorite and continuity and leadership in the locker room is probably worth more than we know.
Will there be any other Zim hold-overs besides Harry, I wonder? :confused:
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Yes. He's probably lost a step or two the past couple of seasons, but he is a fan favorite and continuity and leadership in the locker room is probably worth more than we know.
Will there be any other Zim hold-overs besides Harry, I wonder? :confused:
i think i heard he's the longest tenured Viking now......so yea!!!!!
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Yes. He's probably lost a step or two the past couple of seasons, but he is a fan favorite and continuity and leadership in the locker room is probably worth more than we know.
Will there be any other Zim hold-overs besides Harry, I wonder? :confused:
i think i heard he's the longest tenured Viking now......so yea!!!!!
He seems a likable guy. I hope he don't get head issues. But those guys know the risks and are driven by the competition as longs as the rest of their bodies hold up. God bless Harrison too.
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my best guess is he retires after next season........maybe becomes a coach!
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Kapt. Kirk on going to the Falcons...
"I think in Minnesota, it was trending over the last couple offseasons to being somewhat year-to-year," Cousins explained of his decision-making process that led him to the Falcons rather than re-signing with the Vikings. "As we talked with Atlanta, it felt like this was a place where, if I play at the level I expect to play, that I can retire a Falcon. That was something that really excited me and that's certainly the goal. You've got to earn the right to do that, but that was exciting to feel like I could get that opportunity here."
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I have been hearing that in that speech he sort of admitted that Atlanta had tampered before the legal date. Kind of an oops. LOL Now they may have to give up a draft pick.
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Yeah.....he met with the Falcons trainer about his Achilles. Definitely tampering.
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Yeah.....he met with the Falcons trainer about his Achilles. Definitely tampering.
In that case, I hope they do nail 'em. I'm sure that happens all the time in the NFL, but it is a nice parting gift to the new teams when high profile players play both sides against the middle.
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Cousins just couldn't keep his mouth shut.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Just read that teams the are guilty of tampering could face fines or removal of draft picks. Doesn't say that we get said draft picks.
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:scratch: The Eagles could be in trouble for tampering with Barkley too. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10113015-nfl-rumors-saquon-barkley-eagles-cousins-falcons-contracts-reviewe From the article................."While it often happens, it rarely comes to light so clearly," Florio wrote. "It's exactly the kind of thing that could get the league to mobilize, even though it typically looks the other way when it comes to tampering."
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:surrender:
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Geez Leech, :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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That's a little harsh. Lets wait to see what they do with JJ. :scratch:
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Starting to see things about us trading up to the top 3 spots and wonder how they plan on doing that????? All I can think is JJ. I suppose we could trade draft picks now and in the future too.
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I was trying to look up what that might cost. I'll bet it is at least their first and second round picks over the next two years and probably some extra stuff after that.
My thought is that is too much for a team that has so many holes that still need to be filled. Yer better off sucking for a couple of seasons, "earn" your own top 3 draft pick, and then decide if you want to deal it or use it.
Of course, if you mortgage the next couple of years to draft a hall of fame-worthy, franchise QB who plays for your team for 10 to 12 years, no one is going to care what you paid for him over the first couple of season.
Plus... If you DO give away those high draft picks in the first couple of years, the team WILL probably suck, and while your young QB is maturing, the team will be working its way up higher in the draft - when they have 1st and 2nd round picks again.
Maybe that gutting pic ain't far off. I don't know if Ziggy's clock is ticking the same way Jerry Jones' clock is. ;)
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Ya it is all the right combo of cheap young players that you hope get better each year. Plus getting to the big one whilst they aren't all 30 mil a year players yet.
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They sign 2 more................a WR & a DL...............https://www.vikings.com/news/jerry-tillery-raiders-trent-sherfield-bills-agree-to-terms :scratch:
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Liking it. The most changes we have ever seen.
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Now we need some huge linemen on both sides of the ball. Like Lowdermilk.
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Starting to see things about us trading up to the top 3 spots and wonder how they plan on doing that????? All I can think is JJ. I suppose we could trade draft picks now and in the future too.
Of course there will be a lot of stories like this in the next month or so. I've read a couple pcs that talked about trading up with the LAC & the NYG who are #5 & #6 in this year's draft too. Here's 1 writer's proposed trade with the NYG.............According to Lee, Minnesota has at least one direction they can go to as they trade up with the New York Giants to acquire Michigan QB J.J. McCarthy.
Projected trade: Vikings send No. 11, No. 128 and a 2025 first-round pick to the Giants for No. 6 and 2025 third- and fifth-round picks
It seems inevitable that a QB-needy team will leapfrog Atlanta (or which team ultimately holds the eighth pick) to ensure the next best prospect is still there.
I have my qualms with the passer McCarthy is right now, relative to his draft stock, but he has some enticing tools — and he’s still early on his developmental curve. He would walk into a healthy offensive situation, and it’s possible Minnesota will have a bridge QB he can sit behind until he’s ready. After Chicago, this would be the best landing spot for a rookie QB.
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Just read. Vikes acquired the Texans first round pick #23. We gave them a couple of 2nd rd picks appx. 1 this year and 1 next year. ?? SO now word is they will trade both first rd picks for one of the top 4 slots OR trade for Justin Herbert who is ranked the #6 QB in the NFL. That kind of surprised me that he was rated so high. Anyways we are sitting in a good spot. Good job Kwesi!!! What an epic off season so far.
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Just read. Vikes acquired the Texans first round pick #23. We gave them a couple of 2nd rd picks appx. 1 this year and 1 next year. ?? SO now word is they will trade both first rd picks for one of the top 4 slots OR trade for Justin Herbert who is ranked the #6 QB in the NFL. That kind of surprised me that he was rated so high. Anyways we are sitting in a good spot. Good job Kwesi!!! What an epic off season so far.
:happy1: yep SUPER BOWL BOUND!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :shocked: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
no i aint drinkin!!!!!! :confused: :rotflmao:
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Yet! :sleazy:
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Yet! :sleazy:
:happy1: :happy1: definitely a possibility......we are planning on going out to celebrate, we paid off the house.......so.......i could be ill one morning!!!!!!! :crazy: :drinking: :tequila; :drinking: :happy1:
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Congrats Glenn! that is awesome!
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got mine paid off a few years ago and that was great!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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Just read. Vikes acquired the Texans first round pick #23. We gave them a couple of 2nd rd picks appx. 1 this year and 1 next year. ?? SO now word is they will trade both first rd picks for one of the top 4 slots OR trade for Justin Herbert who is ranked the #6 QB in the NFL. That kind of surprised me that he was rated so high. Anyways we are sitting in a good spot. Good job Kwesi!!! What an epic off season so far.
:scratch: This 1 seems to think they could get their guy at #5. They probably won't even know until Draft day which way they will go, so they will need to be ready for just about anything. https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/can-vikings-now-move-into-draft-top-3-drake-maye-jayden-daniels :confused:
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:scratch: We will probably be hearing 100 different versions of what they are going to do in the next 5 weeks, if we want. :doah:
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I think it depends on who they want.
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I sure hope they don't give up 3 1st Rd picks & a 3rd Rd like SF did to get their guy. But they most likely will have to move up to get 1 of the guys they like. Harbaugh is letting a lot of their FA veterans go & stockpiling picks, so I think a reasonable trade could be made with them to move up to #5 is a good option. Who is left at #5 remains to be seen as 1-3 will most likely be a QB. Arizona is #4 & many think not looking for a QB. :scratch:
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no i aint drinkin!!!!!!
You can't wait to drink more of that Purple Koolaid! :rotflmao: :happy1:
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And the NY Giants need a QB also and could very well jump ahead of the Vikes into number 4. Arizona has 4 and doesn't need a QB either.
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The NYG just signed Jones to a 4 year / $160 million contract last year, so I'd be surprised if they went that route with their 1st Rd pick. Most of what I've seen has them taking a WR, just like Arizona, but you never know. :scratch:
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:confused: :confused: MEH....who cares......i'll wait till this fall!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Congrats Glenn! that is awesome!
thanks.....it is and feels friggin awesome. been a long time coming!!!!! :happy1:
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I try to show people that on a 30 year loan if you a 1 payment a year extra that you will cut many years off the loan... still baffles me how so many people can't get it... money in their pockets!!!
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Way to go Glenn, congrats!
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I try to show people that on a 30 year loan if you a 1 payment a year extra that you will cut many years off the loan... still baffles me how so many people can't get it... money in their pockets!!!
My wife is in charge and she does this also. :happy1: :happy1:
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Adofo-Mensah now sits on the hottest seat in Minnesota sports, and with Cousins gone, that seat no longer features a safety belt.
This is no longer a competitive rebuild. It is a reconstruction. And if he can't immediately find a franchise quarterback under difficult circumstances — picking 11th in a draft in which the top three or four prospects could go in the first 10 selections — the Vikings could reside at the bottom of the division for years.
Needing a quarterback can set a franchise back in two ways:
1. If the quarterback can't play, everyone will likely get fired.
2. The pick used to take the quarterback who can't play could have brought in a star at another position. After the Vikings selected Ponder in 2011 , seven future Pro Bowl players were drafted in the first round.
This draft represents a difficult but fair test for Adofo-Mensah and his staff. In one of his first media interviews on the job, Adofo-Mensah called Cousins "a good quarterback," then added, "We don't have Tom Brady," and, "We don't have Pat Mahomes."
Now he doesn't have Cousins, his safety belt, either.
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Here's 1 writer's spin on the Vike's QB situation.............https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/can-vikings-now-move-into-draft-top-3-drake-maye-jayden-daniels :scratch:
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Pretty exciting from what I see. :sleazy:
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well this sucks......just read where KJ Osborn signs with New England!!!!! :surrender:
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They resigned Powell right away as he returns kicks too & then they signed a FA from the Bills the next day. So, he probably saw the writing on the wall. :scratch:
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Darn I liked him too.
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well this sucks......just read where KJ Osborn signs with New England!!!!! :surrender:
No room to sign KJ if JJ gets all the doe-ray-mi and Adison up-and-coming. Just hope they sign JJ now.
But my hot take is still this... I think Adofo-Mensah is willing to blow the whole thing up, and even if he has to package JJ with another 1st rounder or two, he just might pull the trigger.
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Wouldn't surprise me a bit. But would have to be a big payback and I think we have the QB situation under control without using JJ as bait. Will be interesting to see what they come up with.
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I would like to see them move up and take Marvin Harrison JR. Just think what our receiving core would be like along with Jones at running back a good receiver. And he would be on a cheap 5 year rookie contract.
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Most of the mock drafts I've seen so far have Harrison Jr going to Arizona with pick # 4. This is 1 would be good for the Vikings IMO. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2024-nfl-mock-draft-vikings-use-second-first-round-pick-to-trade-into-t :scratch:
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:oops1: that link above didn't work for me when I just tied it so :rolleyes:......try this 1 instead..............it's the 1 just right of the pic of J.J. McCarthy. https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=169&q=cbs+mock+draft+2024&cvid=d565edd0ad7d4b9d90b412a07b27a412&gs_lcrp=EgZ
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I wonder if they will do the same thing with the UNC kid, Mayes, before draft day? Minnesota is slated to have quarterbacks coaches Josh McCown and Grant Udinski in Ann Arbor for McCarthy’s pro day on Friday, and the team also has arranged for a private workout with the Wolverines signal-caller next week. That workout will be attended by Vikings coach Kevin O’Connell and general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah, according to Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer reported Monday. :scratch:
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They added a guy, Williams, on the DL from the LAR yday. :cool:
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Why are the Vikings dragging there feet resigning the Resiner dude. He played well :confused: :confused:
Sometimes I wonder about this GM ! :crazy: :doofus:
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I wonder that too. Is he that expensive? We sure need OL guys.
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:scratch: It could just be that they busy talking to this guy? https://www.vikings.com/news/shaquill-griffin-cornerback-free-agency-agree-to-terms
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It is all NASCAR stuff Gunner.
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It is all NASCAR stuff Gunner.
:scratch: It wasn't when I posted it :confused:.................how about now? I changed it in the post above too. https://www.vikings.com/news/shaquill-griffin-cornerback-free-agency-agree-to-terms
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Now it is good. :happy1: This sounds good. We will have to have a list of players and numbers when we watch the Vikes this year.
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Now I hear Florio saying that if the Falcons are charged with tampering the Vikes will get a draft pick. ??? Hope it is right.
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Perhaps a compensatory pick between the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I'm not sure why that just popped into my head. for all I know, that could be a baseball rule. I don't have time to do the research now. But it IS good news if true. 'Cause you gotta figure Kapt. Kirk was on his way out the door, tampering or not.
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And like I said. I think they are just fine giving up a pick so they insured they would end up with Kirk.
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Perhaps a compensatory pick between the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I'm not sure why that just popped into my head. for all I know, that could be a baseball rule. I don't have time to do the research now. But it IS good news if true. 'Cause you gotta figure Kapt. Kirk was on his way out the door, tampering or not.
I looked into it last week & this is about the best pc I found on it...https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-comp-pick-update-two-2025-third-rounders-board#:~:text=K.J.%20Osborn%20signi It even does a pretty good job of explaining how it works.
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Thanks Gunner. I will read it again when I have more time too. What I am still confused about is dead cap money?
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Now it is good. :happy1: This sounds good. We will have to have a list of players and numbers when we watch the Vikes this year.
Yeah.....I will be watching and constantly saying..."Who's He???"
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A couple more today, with only 3 or 4, who play on offense..............so far. https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/top_news/vikings-make-it-14-newcomers-with-latest-free-agent-move :scratch:
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Perhaps a compensatory pick between the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I'm not sure why that just popped into my head. for all I know, that could be a baseball rule. I don't have time to do the research now. But it IS good news if true. 'Cause you gotta figure Kapt. Kirk was on his way out the door, tampering or not.
I looked into it last week & this is about the best pc I found on it...https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-comp-pick-update-two-2025-third-rounders-board#:~:text=K.J.%20Osborn%20signi It even does a pretty good job of explaining how it works.
No one understands the NFL's formula for determining who gets what compensation pick and why. And I think they change it all the time. Security thru obscurity.
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You are right about none of the fans understanding the formula for compensatory picks being awarded :scratch: but someone in King Roger's office has to & I have to think that there's someone in every team's Personnel Dept that knows the ins & outs of how it is applied as well. As for it changing all the time, I don't believe that's possible as it's part of current NFL CBA. :confused: https://overthecap.com/compensatory-formula
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Yer right I don't understand this stuff. If I read that right... Since the Vikes lost a valuable player to free agency, they will receive a compensatory pick.
BUT... IF there was tampering, will they receive an additional compensatory pick, or will the compensatory pick they get be better, or will they get one of Atlanta's picks?
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I see that Blake Brandel may be a starter so may not resign Risnor
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Yer right I don't understand this stuff. If I read that right... Since the Vikes lost a valuable player to free agency, they will receive a compensatory pick.
BUT... IF there was tampering, will they receive an additional compensatory pick, or will the compensatory pick they get be better, or will they get one of Atlanta's picks?
Because the Vikings have lost six CFAs to other teams and signed four CFAs, they're in line to get third-round picks from Kirk Cousins and Danielle Hunter, who have signed two of the three biggest free agent contracts in the league (in terms of average annual value) this spring. Notably, players who are released by their previous teams (such as Aaron Jones or Jerry Tillery) don't count in the formula. Because we've lost 6 & signed 4 is what makes it 2 picks & the AAV of the new deals they signed is what makes them 3rd round picks, which is the highest the league hands out.
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:scratch: I did a search on the tampering & all the articles that popped up are from MSN. :sad: I never have any luck posting a link to MSN so I've found that it can be done by posting the search link instead. https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=169&q=vikings+getting+picks+for+atlanta+tampering+with+cousins&cvid=a9f5c885d82a4 I liked the pc beside the pic of Kirk. :confused:
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I think we should say these are for 2025.
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The Vikings currently have the most “dead money” on their books in the NFL.
That means they are weighed down by salary cap charges ($57.3 million, according to Over The Cap) they are paying on contracts for players who aren’t on the team. The majority of that comes from the acceleration of void years and signing bonus charges from Cousins and Hunter.
When that money comes off the books, the Vikings will have the financial freedom to make some big-time impact signings in free agency next March. Based on Over The Cap’s projected salary cap figure of $260 million for 2025, the Vikings would rank 10th in the NFL with $90.975 million to spend. The cap for 2025 isn’t set yet, so that figure could increase and the Vikings also will have the ability to clear more space.
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So this kinda IS a throw-away, rebuilding year, and you'd think that anything they do this year ought to be done to set themselves up to make a bigger push next year. Good info, Ken.
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I think we should say these are for 2025.
Yes, any comp picks awarded the Vikes would be for 2025 & the title of the link above does say 2025 in it. https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-comp-pick-update-two-2025-third-rounders-board#:~:text=K.J.%20Osborn% They might gain a pick, but that's not always so, for Atlanta's tampering & that would be for 2025 also.
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I see that Blake Brandel may be a starter so may not resign Risnor
Brandel is still listed as #2 behind Ingram at RG on the depth chart but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. According to this..https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-ufa-profile-lg-dalton-risner Risner likes to play hardball at contract time & Pro Football Focus says he had the worst year of his career. They have him at 44 out of 65 guards who played at least 500 snaps. So, they might have their eye on another FA or somebody in the draft. :confused:
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I see that Blake Brandel may be a starter so may not resign Risnor
Brandel is still listed as #2 behind Ingram at RG on the depth chart but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. According to this..https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-ufa-profile-lg-dalton-risner Risner likes to play hardball at contract time & Pro Football Focus says he had the worst year of his career. They have him at 44 out 65 guards who played at least 500 snaps. So, they might have their eye on another FA or somebody in the draft. :confused:
:scratch: didnt he do that last year also???/ and why the Vikings got him??? pretty soon he'll end up without a football job!!!
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:happy1: He sure did, glenn. :doah:
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Risner is thought to be 1 of the better pass blocking guards in the league but as good as he is at that, his run blocking is graded as being among the worst too. :scratch: Feeney, an early FA signing can play guard but he's #2 behind Bradbury at center too.
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If we plan on running the ball more I think a full size center would be a good idea :scratch:
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:scratch: Bradbury just signed a new 15.75 mil/9.8 mil guaranteed /3-year deal last season. So, I'd be really surprised if he isn't on the field, if he's healthy. :confused:
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If we plan on running the ball more I think a full size center would be a good idea :scratch:
they said they wanted to run the ball more last year. :crazy: :doofus:
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If we plan on running the ball more I think a full size center would be a good idea :scratch:
they said they wanted to run the ball more last year. :crazy: :doofus:
Well the QBs were running for their life. Does that count???? :rotflmao:
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If we plan on running the ball more I think a full size center would be a good idea :scratch:
they said they wanted to run the ball more last year. :crazy: :doofus:
Well the QBs were running for their life. Does that count???? :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: :happy1: yea I'd say so. :surrender:
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:scratch: Bradbury just signed a new 15.75 mil/9.8 mil guaranteed /3-year deal last season, so I'd be really surprised if he isn't on the field, if he's healthy. :confused:
Really, guess I had not heard that. I do not understand why we paid him that much he is tiny. :thumbs:
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If we plan on running the ball more I think a full size center would be a good idea :scratch:
they said they wanted to run the ball more last year. :crazy: :doofus:
They tried at the start of the season, but their #1 guy was lucky to average 3 yds/carry. That was good enough to make their run game 28th in a 32-team league. :pouty:
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Bradbury has been bulking up and is bigger now than he was but still no Kirk Lowdermilk. Remember how big he was. The D had to try to go around him. LOL
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:scratch: You got me curious about Lowdermilk, LPS, so I asked Google. I checked 3 sites & the 1st one had him 6'3" & 263#s, the 2nd said 274#s, & the last had him at 284#s. There wasn't nearly as many 300+ #ers that were playing back then, like there is now. Bradbury is listed at 6'3" 300# & they say he was 306# at the combine.
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Very interesting. Ya Lowdermilk was a tough cookie. I thought he was a lot bigger than that. I thought he was huge.
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So, then I got wondering what the average size is of the Centers in the NFL today. Turns out that's just under 6'4" & ~ 306 # is the NFL average, so Bradbury is about average size.
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Good info Gunner.
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The Vikings cut Joseph loose & he signed with GB, where he is expected to compete for the starting job. Mn signed a XFL kicker, Romo, & are expected to sign another, either from the draft or an undrafted FA.
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So, then I got wondering what the average size is of the Centers in the NFL today. Turns out that's just under 6'4" & ~ 306 # is the NFL average, so Bradbury is about average size.
Huh I really thought he looked small out there, maybe the rest of our line is just huge? You would think they could protect the QB better if that was the case. :bonk:
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They are all big and strong. Its all technique and leverage.
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That's why some of the better OL & DL coaches like guys that were wrestlers with good footwork, they understand leverage.
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:scratch: https://www.dailynorseman.com/2024/3/30/24116562/minnesota-vikings-news-and-links-30-march-2024 :confused:
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Have you seen the pic of Jayden Daniels elbow? It is really weird. I just heard that it is photoshopped to make it appear real strange. He does have a lump though.
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:scratch: This: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10114876-jayden-daniels-reacts-to-viral-photo-of-throwing-elbow-says-hes-perfectly-fine
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I will try to post the weird pic of his elbow if I see it again.
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Kind of a long talk but you can see the pic. https://youtu.be/KfHvz4gxLFk
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:oops1: :taz: :bonk: ;) :rolleyes: :laugh:
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Not working Gunner.
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yup not working
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So the guys got a weird looking elbow, what are his results and has it always been that way? Heck there used to be a field goal kicked with half a foot! :doah:
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Sorry, I didn't try the link. Same topic, different article...............https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-private-workout-washington-michael-penix-draft
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It's been 10 years since the Vikes looked to draft a QB in the first round: Teddy Bridgewater (2014).
And prior to that, the list is a short one: Christian Ponder (2011), Daunte Culpepper (1999), and Tommy Kramer (1977).
For fun, here is the list of Bears' QBs taken in the first round of the draft.
Sid Luckman (1939)
Frankie Albert (1942)
Johnny Lujack (1946)
Bob Williams (1951)
Jim McMahon (1982)
Jim Harbaugh (1987)
Cade McNown (1999)
Rex Grossman (2003)
Mitchell Trubiski (2017)
Justin Fields (2021)
Caleb Williams (2024) :confused:
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So the guys got a weird looking elbow, what are his results and has it always been that way? Heck there used to be a field goal kicked with half a foot! :doah:
The Dr in LPS's video link says it's most likely this.................Elbow bursitis in inflammation in the olecranon bursa — the fluid-filled sac that protects and cushions your elbow joint. It’s usually caused by overuse from your job or activities like sports. You’ll probably only need at-home treatments to help your bursa heal. Most people recover in three to six weeks.
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Vikings suspend offensive coordinator Wes Phillips for 3 weeks (https://athlonsports.com/nation/bringmethesports/vikings/vikings-suspend-offensive-coordinator-wes-phillips-for-3-weeks)
Wes Phillips has been suspended three weeks without pay in connection to his DWI arrest in 2023.
The suspension starts today and ends April 23, meaning he will not miss any games, practices or the NFL Draft, which takes place April 25-27.
In February, the Vikings offensive coordinator signed a plea deal with Hennepin County District Court that saw his fourth-degree DWI charge reduced to a careless driving misdemeanor.
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:scratch: A little feel-good story on a guy that was only a Viking for a day or 2. Check out what he's doing now. :cool: https://www.dailynorseman.com/2024/4/1/24118462/roman-reigns-signing-minnesota-vikings-changed-his-life-leukemia-diagnosis
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So the guys got a weird looking elbow, what are his results and has it always been that way? Heck there used to be a field goal kicked with half a foot! :doah:
The Dr in LPS's video link says it's most likely this.................Elbow bursitis in inflammation in the olecranon bursa — the fluid-filled sac that protects and cushions your elbow joint. It’s usually caused by overuse from your job or activities like sports. You’ll probably only need at-home treatments to help your bursa heal. Most people recover in three to six weeks.
Did you see how weird his muscles were in the pic? That is why they are saying it was photoshopped.
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:scratch: But your Dr found the original photo & article, so he said he now believes it to be real for that reason. If it was photoshopped there would only be 1 such photo, according to him. :confused:
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:scratch: A little feel-good story on a guy that was only a Viking for a day or 2. Check out what he's doing now. :cool: https://www.dailynorseman.com/2024/4/1/24118462/roman-reigns-signing-minnesota-vikings-changed-his-life-leukemia-diagnosis
:happy1: :happy1: when i get to watch the WWE..........i like the guy but he is now perceived as a somewhat villian. :doah: the "bloodline" if fun to follow!!!
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One prominent NFL source is reporting that the league is apparently close to resolving a situation that could impact how the Minnesota Vikings handle their business at this year’s selection meeting.
Adam Schefter is reporting that the league is expected to come to a resolution soon on the charges that the Atlanta Falcons tampered with quarterback Kirk Cousins ahead of the start of free agency. For those that haven’t been following the story, Cousins stated in his introductory press conference with the Falcons that he had been in contact with the team’s training staff during the “legal tampering” period, a time during which only player representatives are supposed to be in contact with the teams.
Per Schefter’s report, and this quote is directly from the article, “the discipline, which is likely to involve draft picks, is expected to be more severe for the Falcons.
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There has been some speculation that any sort of penalty for the Falcons would include them being forced to swap first-round picks with the Vikings this Thursday, moving the Vikings from #11 to #8 in the first round.
Ahead of the 2023 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins were stripped of their first-round pick (as well as a 2024 third-round selection) for reportedly tampering with Tom Brady and Sean Payton on multiple occasions over a three-year period.
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Three of the top NFL insiders- Adam Schefter with ESPN, Albert Breer with SI, and Peter Schrager with FoxSports- are all reporting that the Patriots are unlikely to trade down and will pick a quarterback at #3.
Drake Maye appears to be the favorite, assuming the Commanders take Jayden Daniels at #2.
All of the above are saying that the Patriots are still answering the phone, and the Vikings and Giants are the primary teams calling, but so far no deal has been reached for the Patriots to trade that pick
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Its all positioning and posturing until the last possible moment. I'm sure the Pats will take a QB at #3 unless a team gives them more than the #3 pick is worth AND they can still get a QB they like.
OR... the Pats get way more than the #3 pick is worth, draft a bunch of need positions this year, still suck next year with a bad QB, get a Top 3 draft pick next year, and THEN take the QB. :rotflmao:
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I am obviously very bias but I think from seeing what those past fines cost the teams that we should just get the Falcons #8 pick and keep our own pics too. AND they sure as heck better be announcing it to be used in this draft!!!
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The pc I read lead me to believe that it was more of the nature of a swap of 1st Rd picks...............i.e. Vikes move up to #8 & Falcons go #11. :scratch: The NFL Draft starts in 73.5 hrs & we should know before then how this will go. By ~ 8:30 Thursday night we should have a good idea who their 1st Rd pick will most likely be. :cheerleader:
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:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: good thing you guys keep me up to date. I've ignored the :bs: :bow: :surrender: for the last month :happy1: :rotflmao:
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I'm with ya Gunner. Gonna be fun. I have stayed up till late waiting for a pic on the first night or two and they traded so no pic that night. That is irritating to say the least. All part of the program.
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:tut: Just like 1/2 the stuff you post :bs:...................especially about how GREAT you are at :fishing: or :fudd:.!!!!!1 :doah: :nerd: :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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:tut: Just like 1/2 the stuff you post :bs:...................especially about how GREAT you are at :fishing: or :fudd:.!!!!!1 :doah: :nerd: :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
2 way street bucko!!!!!! :mooning: :mooning: :rotflmao: :rolleyes: :happy1: :rotflmao:
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I'm with you Glenn. I don't pay attention until it is over. Other than what I read here.
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I'm with you Glenn. I don't pay attention until it is over. Other than what I read here.
You can take all the opinions here right to the bank! Sell momma's car and bet everything on the Vikings getting Penix.
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probably. :pouty:
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I'm with you Glenn.
Jeez..get a life. Enjoy the beauty of spring.
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:scratch: :doah: Just stirrin the pot of an OLD PRO!!!!!!!1 :sleazy: :nerd: :evil: ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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:scratch: :doah: Just stirrin the pot of an OLD PRO!!!!!!!1 :sleazy: :nerd: :evil: ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :rotflmao:
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:happybounce: :party1: Only 44 hours & 21 minutes to go!! :cheerleader: ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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:scratch: No decision on the tampering before the draft, they're sayin now. :confused:
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Ya what a crock that is. How tough is it to make a simple decision? They want to control the Vikes power in the draft this year.
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If they do any trading up in this year's draft, they're goona need a supplemental pick in next year's draft.
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Last I read they were thinking it would be ~ a 3rd Rd pick in 2025 for the tampering. :confused:
Ya what a crock that is. How tough is it to make a simple decision? They want to control the Vikes power in the draft this year.
“Efforts to gather information regarding the Eagles’ and Falcons’ actions at the start of the new league year and any potential tampering remains ongoing and will not finish this week,” NFL Network reported. :scratch:
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It's all a ploy. :rotflmao:
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It's down to hours for you guys now! Lol. I'll be watching Star Trek. Lol
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It's down to hours for you guys now! Lol. I'll be watching Star Trek. Lol
:pouty: Yeah, only ~ 12 more hours that we can mess with glenn. :sleazy: :evil: ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Starts at 7 tonight and 6 tomorrow night. :sleazy:
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It's down to hours for you guys now! Lol. I'll be watching Star Trek. Lol
i'll be :drinking: :toast:
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Just tuned into KFAN to get more info and someone called in and said we should trade the 11 and 23 picks to Atlanta for Kirk Cousins. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: JJ's price probably just went up as the Lions just gave their WR1 a $120 million/4 year deal yday. :rolleyes:
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Star Trek is a thriller. Captain Kirk is competing against a computer running his ship. Boy even 50 years ago they predicted AI taking over everything. 🤣🤣
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That sounds great. NOT :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Vikes move up 1 spot to take JJ McCarthy :happy1: :happy1:
They keep number 23. Gave up a 4th and 5th this year to move up.
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Vikes move up 1 spot to take JJ McCarthy :happy1: :happy1:
They keep number 23. Gave up a 4th and 5th this year to move up.
Minnesota traded the 129 and 157 picks to the New York Jets for the 203 to move up one spot.
I'd say that was pretty cheap QB insurance. Maybe no one else would have traded with the Jets to swoop in and take JJ, but the Vikes were all-in for a QB and couldn't afford to loose out.
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Vikes move up 1 spot to take JJ McCarthy :happy1: :happy1:
They keep number 23. Gave up a 4th and 5th this year to move up.
:Clap: :happybounce: Great job, Kwesi & KO'C!!!! :cool: :cheerleader:
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I heard that the Broncos were looking at McCarthy too so maybe that is whey they moved up that spot. Sure glad they did. Yes great job Vikes.
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I see that Cousins was "stunned" that Atlanta took a QB with their first pick. He knew they may take one but not in the first. They called him whilst waiting to announce the pick.
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:scratch: Not real happy that they didn't take somebody that would help the team win this year, is how the pc I read put it. :cry: :rolleyes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:scratch: Not real happy that they didn't take somebody that would help the team win this year, is how the pc I read put it.
There is that. Especially with all those great receivers on the board. :doah:
But the overriding factor is, teams aren't in position very often to draft a top 5 QB without overspending to move up. And if you do need a QB of the future, ya gotta think long term as well.
Sometimes these guys are great in year 1. Sometimes they take a couple of years to blossom. On paper, having a "nice guy, team player" like Kapt. Kirk as QB1 to mentor the lad looks good. We'll see how it plays out in reality.
Kirk is always criticized and has to prove himself everywhere he goes. Will his performance stay at a high level or will the pressure of having an understudy waiting in the wings get to him? :confused:
Either way, Kirk got paid again.
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I think this was an A draft for the Vikes. 2 players who could have a big impact. AND they will supposedly have $100 million for free agency in 2025.
Just need to get Jefferson signed.