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Title: winter propane contracts
Post by: mike89 on June 06/24/22, 08:32:38 AM
well I got contract for this coming winters propane and as I figured it's up..  Summer fill $1.85, winter contract $1.95 becuse I own my tank...  yikes and this place has always been the most reasonable around here for price!!! 

so the question is what are you all seeing or hearing for prices??? 
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on June 06/24/22, 08:38:20 AM
i have electric heat so i dont follow it at all, still be interesting to hear what others say!!!!!

we have the call in to fill the tank at the cabin, so i'll see what it says then!!!!!!  :scratch:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Boar on June 06/24/22, 08:50:09 AM
About the same. Im getting summer fill, and about 400 gl of contract. It can pay off or it can be a bust or a wash. Vegas has better odds
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on June 06/24/22, 08:54:44 AM
based on the information we got from cenex.........i'm,  thinking there's not going to be much wheeling and dealing, special offers on propane anywhere this year!!!!!!! just my opinion though!!!!!! :doah:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Jerkbiat on June 06/24/22, 09:45:39 AM
Hearing about the same up here Mike.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Boar on June 06/24/22, 11:52:56 AM
Thera never special offers its on nation set prices and transportaion and compition.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: roony on June 06/24/22, 12:17:15 PM
CONSPIRACY!
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on June 06/24/22, 12:43:39 PM
Thera never special offers its on nation set prices and transportaion and compition.
:pouty: :pouty: we've always been offered some summer special if we filled during a certain time frame.........except his year. and then pd in 10 days!
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Boar on June 06/24/22, 07:32:23 PM
Yup thats a standard practice tho...but i hear ya..
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: LPS on June 06/24/22, 07:52:31 PM
CONSPIRACY!


No doubt!  Gotta be it! 
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: tangle tooth on June 06/24/22, 09:49:32 PM
      Our co-op here in Blue Earth County, did summer fill for $1.89/gallon. No word on our contract price.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Boar on June 06/25/22, 06:29:58 AM
1.89 aint bad
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: HD on June 06/25/22, 07:05:38 AM
Ours is at $2.09  :sad:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: LPS on June 06/25/22, 07:08:57 AM
I think we paid $1.89 for summer fill too.  The winter pre buy here I don't know how much yet. But we get in on it too. 
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Boar on June 06/25/22, 07:37:10 AM
Aint bad really.compared to what fuel oil heater are gonna be taking.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on June 06/26/22, 07:29:11 PM
Anyone fill a 20 lber lately?? What are they charging for those???

The fleet supply in paynseville is usually the cheapest in the area.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Gunner55 on June 06/27/22, 08:11:20 AM
We did & I think :scratch: he said WM in GR was still the same price.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Cooperman on July 07/05/22, 02:43:11 PM
Just got the winter pre buy from our supplier, $2.10
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on July 07/05/22, 02:47:26 PM
noticed they filled the tank at the cabin, couple days later i seen an email we got the statement, it was 2.09. 418 buckaroos later. oh well we shall stay warm this winter!!!!!!  :happy1:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: LPS on July 07/05/22, 03:01:01 PM
Just got our pre buy in the mail too.  It is $2.09.  So if the rack price drops we get that price or else the $2.09.  Whichever is cheapest at time of filling.  Like I said propane has to be about $1.79-1.89 or else it is cheaper to use electric when it is off peak prices like we have. 
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Cooperman on July 07/05/22, 03:19:05 PM
We also got a notice from Minnesota power that electricity may increase 17%.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Bobberineyes on July 07/05/22, 03:45:14 PM
I'm thinking wood might the way to go, right jb??  :happy1:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Jerkbiat on July 07/06/22, 09:16:17 AM
I'm thinking wood might the way to go, right jb??  :happy1:
Ya. I am wondering about that too. Going to be $130.00 a cord delivered this winter he said with the fuel prices. Multiply that 24 and it has me thinking.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: LPS on July 07/06/22, 11:10:31 AM
You go through 24 cords a year JB? 
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Jerkbiat on July 07/06/22, 11:20:18 AM
Yes sir. Last year was a hair more than 24.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: LPS on July 07/06/22, 11:23:43 AM
I had thought about getting one of those outdoor wood stoves but kind of glad I didn't.   Although you heat a shop and a house so that is pretty nice.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on July 07/06/22, 11:26:05 AM
Yes sir. Last year was a hair more than 24.
holy crap.....thats alot of propane you could buy...........do a half and half thing?????  my quick math says that wood would cost 4200 smackaroos alone?????/
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Jerkbiat on July 07/06/22, 11:31:50 AM
$3120 for 24 cord. I am adding propane boilers this summer to do the half and half thing. Run the propane in the fall and spring. Then in the really cold months burn wood. We are heating the house and garages too like LPS said.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: LPS on July 07/06/22, 02:10:42 PM
That sounds like a good plan JB.  Every year older things get a little harder and take a little longer. 
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Jerkbiat on July 07/06/22, 03:08:13 PM
Boy you got that right LPS!  :happy1:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Bobberineyes on July 07/06/22, 04:40:08 PM
Sheez!! I spose if you don't have access they got ya. I got to know a fella in HD's area that would let me cut and take fresh stuff for 50 bucks whatever I could haul, the 3/4 ton even had a backseat full. Usually ran a year ahead so it worked great. But I'm not heating the whole house either.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Gunner55 on July 07/06/22, 04:41:18 PM
Yes sir. Last year was a hair more than 24.
holy crap.....thats alot of propane you could buy...........do a half and half thing?????  my quick math says that wood would cost 4200 smackaroos alone?????/
:scratch: Is that a union calculator your using?  :sleazy: :nerd: :evil:                       ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on July 07/06/22, 04:48:50 PM
Maybe!! :mooning: :mooning:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Jerkbiat on July 07/07/22, 06:54:34 AM
The last 2 winters we have been paying to have it delivered. Otherwise before that we would buy it at the landing for $60 a cord. May have to go back to that. Down side to that is we would spend 4-5 weekends cutting and hauling firewood. That was getting old too. Will have to see what happens this winter.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: mike89 on August 08/02/22, 09:55:32 AM
got my winter contract confirmed and just got my summer fill..  all set I guess... 
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on August 08/02/22, 11:39:21 AM
anyone got an idea what there getting nowadays for filling a 20 lb tank??????? i got 3 that needs filling, and before i do anymore canning i need at least one filled!!!!1 :scratch: :scratch:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: mike89 on August 08/02/22, 11:50:13 AM
$9.00 on Wednesdays here yet....
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on August 08/02/22, 11:51:10 AM
$9.00 on Wednesdays here yet....
sheez for that i might drive up to visit!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: roony on August 08/02/22, 12:00:29 PM
2.059/gal for a couple thousand gallons here. ROBBERS
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: LPS on August 08/02/22, 12:49:09 PM
I thought we paid 1.89 but the wife just said no it was 2.09.  It is a rip off.  If the price goes down before then we get the lower of the two.  Roons do you use that much at your farm in a winter?
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: roony on August 08/02/22, 12:52:10 PM
Between the old farmhouse and a 4000 sq ft shop we do. And that is supplementing with wood in the shop and a pellet stove in the house.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: LPS on August 08/02/22, 12:58:23 PM
That is one heck of a shop.  You win that category hands down.  That is one heck of a lot of heat.  Dotch should come over in his spare time and do some insulating for you.   :rotflmao: :rotflmao:  What do you do in that big shop Roony?
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: roony on August 08/02/22, 01:01:36 PM
Putz
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: roony on August 08/02/22, 01:05:00 PM
It was my full time cabinet/millwork business before I got a real job 6 years ago. When I retire from my undercover boss job it will be my full-time occupation again minus a lot of the stress I had back then.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on August 08/02/22, 01:09:09 PM
It was my full time cabinet/millwork business before I got a real job 6 years ago. When I retire from my undercover boss job it will be my full-time occupation again minus a lot of the stress I had back then.
and yet the warden still rules the roost!!🤭 :sleazy: :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: roony on August 08/02/22, 01:16:19 PM
Up urs
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on August 08/02/22, 01:39:49 PM
Up urs
oh my??? :confused: :pouty: :scratch: :doah:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: roony on August 08/02/22, 01:43:58 PM
With a rubber hose
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on August 08/02/22, 02:53:43 PM
With a rubber hose
oh no not that!! :confused: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: LPS on August 08/02/22, 04:26:58 PM
AGAIN???   :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Gunner55 on August 08/03/22, 07:24:57 AM
My bother ordered a fill late last week, they've not been here yet though. The price he was quoted is $.15/gal cheaper than what their fall fill special was on the flyer we got earlier.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: LPS on August 08/03/22, 07:59:21 AM
I wonder if the price of propane will fall like gas is?
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Jerkbiat on August 08/03/22, 08:21:27 AM
Good question! But I have also heard gas is supposed to go up again this fall. Time will tell. Hope I heard wrong.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Steve-o on August 08/03/22, 08:40:44 AM
Good question! But I have also heard gas is supposed to go up again this fall. Time will tell. Hope I heard wrong.
Prolly start going back up the second week of November.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: roony on August 08/03/22, 08:54:26 AM
I am trying to negotiate my winter lp contract. See what happens.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on August 08/03/22, 08:59:52 AM
I am trying to negotiate my winter lp contract. See what happens.
:sleazy: :sleazy: need some help!!!!!!!!!! training-087 training-087 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: roony on August 08/03/22, 09:05:36 AM
I dont want to get laughed at.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on August 08/03/22, 09:18:26 AM
I dont want to get laughed at.
HA  :mooning: :mooning: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Gunner55 on August 08/03/22, 05:46:51 PM
Gas was $4.05 at the convenience store in Squaw Lake yday & we were told it's been like that for 2-3 weeks. Seen $4.08 in Cohasset today & $4.13 in GR.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: HD on August 08/03/22, 05:53:45 PM
Propane is a byproduct of making gasoline, so the price should go down..... except for the price gougers. :doah:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: LPS on August 08/03/22, 08:19:54 PM
That is what I thought too. 
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Gunner55 on August 08/03/22, 09:46:32 PM
When Dotch's customers get their big machines running & fire up the dryers, I doubt it will be going down much more IMO. A lot of seasonal people in this area will be pulling the plug for the season too & will want to get their tanks filled as well. Supply/demand rules & yes there are some taking advantage of the situation. That being said, my brother found gas for $3.89 in Squaw Lake today when he went for a ride on his bike.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: fishwidow on August 08/03/22, 11:03:37 PM
Gas was $4.05 at the convenience store in Squaw Lake yday & we were told it's been like that for 2-3 weeks. Seen $4.08 in Cohasset today & $4.13 in GR.
GR is always higher. 15 or so years ago it would alternate between being higher and lower than gas in the metro. They even had a sort of renegade type of operation pop up when the Super One on the south side of town was a Cub that openly claimed to be fighting the trend of higher gas prices. In the last few years, I have avoided buying gas in GR because it’s always higher. Makes a trip to Hibbing or Nashwauk worth the extra miles for us.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on August 08/04/22, 05:15:13 AM
Same thing in deer river fishwidow!! :pouty:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Gunner55 on August 08/04/22, 07:53:10 AM
We normally get almost all our gas at M&H in GR as DR is usually higher. We like the $.05 off for going in to pay too, I guess it's $.010 if you pay with cash or by check, but we seldom do that. A full tank in the car, 2020 Escape, will last 2weeks for us & even then it's rarely more than 13 gallons. We use almost as much in the wheeler, boat, & mowers as that.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Cooperman on August 08/04/22, 02:05:00 PM
$3.89 in Park Rapids
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Bobberineyes on August 08/04/22, 07:20:49 PM
We talking gas? I paid 3.54 coming thru Des Moines last Saturday , this mountain town in Colorado has ya by the balls, 5.29 we filled up with today..  :taz:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on August 08/04/22, 07:54:43 PM
Hey if ya got it spend it!!! :mooning: :rotflmao:

Sorry Mikey made me. :pouty: :confused:
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: deadeye on August 08/04/22, 09:18:08 PM
I am fortunate to be hooked to natural gas. The past 12 months gas bill totaled just under $900.  So far, the "pipe" has not run dry. 
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: glenn57 on August 08/05/22, 07:55:06 AM
when we had the house built back in 1979 they didnt have a gas line coming up are street and if i remember right i would of had to pay for it from the current line up to my house so we have baseboard electric heat.

we are on a budget plan so it helps. 
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Gunner55 on August 08/05/22, 07:57:13 AM
The situation over in Germany won't let our energy prices go down very far until it is resolved either IMO. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/scholz-visit-nord-stream-1-gas-turbine-germany-2022-08-02/
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Gunner55 on August 08/05/22, 02:29:24 PM
$3.89 in Park Rapids
WCCO said it was $3.29 in Buffalo, Mn this AM.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: Dotch on August 08/05/22, 04:14:00 PM
I am fortunate to be hooked to natural gas. The past 12 months gas bill totaled just under $900.  So far, the "pipe" has not run dry.

Hopefully that's a relatively new line and one the gas company plans on maintaining a while. I wouldn't put anything past the gas company in rural areas. When we first bought our place, we were hooked to natural gas via a farm tap. It was cheap and we never worried about running out. We had ~ an 1100' line that ran from the tap on the main line down in the field to our house. We'd noticed some peculiar sudden spikes in our consumption & bill late one summer. When we confronted them they said they just figured we might've put in a swimming pool or something.  :scratch: Consumption came back down, we paid the bill, and in February they showed up, announced there was a gas leak by our house  (in our supply line from the farm tap) and promptly shutting our gas off, telling us too bad, so sad, you'll just have to switch your furnace over to LP. Have a nice life! Our furnace was probably over 30 years old and there was no "just switch it over to LP" to it. It took 3 days before we were able to get someone out there to install a new one. I could've switched back to natural gas again but I would've had to foot the bill for the new line to the house. Wouldn't have been cheap. Just the material alone was more than what I could afford at the time, not to mention the cost of trenching it in. In retrospect, probably a good thing I didn't do it.

The gas company is as I write this, in the process of abandoning the main line I was hooked into. It was an old line, put in back in the 1920's sometime if I remember reading my abstract correctly. They are rerouting & connecting other existing lines while making one helluva mess in several farmers growing crops. It has some of them really PO'ed as their buildings & corn dryers were hooked into the line they're abandoning. They've been trying to get the gas company to run another line for them but that ain't gonna happen even though the contract stipulates they probably should. The gas company has a lot of high powered attorneys on retainer. They operate like railroads I've concluded. They're so big and powerful, they do pretty much whatever the hell they want.

I did finally discover what happened to cause our gas leak. A couple years after our natural gas had been disconnected, I came across a pipe on the soil surface in what had once been part of the field. We added some additional acreage after our initial purchase for windbreak, pasture, wildlife habitat, etc. The galvanized pipe was bent at a crazy angle and I couldn't budge it. It puzzled me for a minute then the light bulb came on. Due to years of erosion, the supply line from the house to the farm tap worked its way closer to the surface and the guy running the ground most likely hooked it with his deep ripper in the fall. The pipe either developed a pinhole leak in it where it was crimped or where it was torn it loose at one of the threaded connections somewhere underground. I should probably yank it out someday. Dunno what I'll do with it but I sure know where I'd like to put it...  :angry::evil:   
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: LPS on August 08/05/22, 04:22:17 PM
That's what the corporate world thinks of us as individuals.  Absolutely nothing.  Unless there is a law suit and they have to redo it they won't.  What a hassle to those that depended on it.  Sure would think they would have a responsibility to restore service to them.  On their own dime too.
Title: Re: winter propane contracts
Post by: deadeye on August 08/05/22, 09:47:39 PM
Dotch,
That's quite a story. I never realized they can just abandon a line. I'm in the township but not too far from town so probably not an issue.
Back when I lived in Coon Rapids the gas company went through and replaced all the lines from the main pipe to the houses. They didn't have to dig up the lines but simply attached a line and pulled it through the original line. Fun to watch.