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Fishing Forums => Outboard & Small Engine Repair => Topic started by: Lee Borgersen on February 02/08/18, 12:01:59 PM
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Toro Snowblower problem!
Relatively new only 2nd year of use. Everything was workin fine an den...... :banghead:
Da pull start won't start da engine :bonk: I have compression and it pulls just fine but engine won't even cough or spit. Just seems like maybe no spark! :scratch: Now da kicker is when I plug in da extension cord and push da button she fires up right away. I'm hoping dat da electric start don't go out next :snow2::doah: Da snow forecast is for up ta 10 inches starting tonight and lasting till........ :confused:
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PS. I did buy it brand new. :embarrassed:
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Hmmm..... Are you SURE the recoil dogs are ENGAGING the flywheel housing? If it fires with electric start, but not recoil, only difference is speed of cranking RPM's. You MAY have weak spark...bad plug (seen it a lot...check it out against head (Cylinder head, Lee) for a fat blue spark. Only other thing could be a weak coil....seen that a lot on ice augers. And it runs fine from idle to WOT?
Maybe those scrawny arms just don't have the oomph anymore.... :whistling: :rotflmao:
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Here's yer problem...
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I take a lot of pride in my arms! Although day have gotten a bit thinner since da last photo when I was younger.
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Here's yer problem...
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Reb, could you go over and tro da cuffs on steve-o. :doah:
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Get checking that out!!! I'm busy with this Social service garbage and the funeral home!!! %$##@@!
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I godda go! Da :queen2: Is waitin to go grocery choppin before da winter storm hits. You know how dem older gals get when a storm is on da way. :crazy:
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THE BLOWER IS THE MAIN ISSUE HERE!!! GET TO IT!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll haveta bill ya, and I AIN'T cheap! Good advice/work is expensive!!!!
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My snow blower is only one year old and some days when its really cold. I too have to wimp out and use the Elc start. :pouty:
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these days electric is my go to for the snow blower!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Sounds ta me if the trusty electricity start goes out you'll be hooking it to da car and have borgie drag it while you dump da clutch with it in gear ( key on of course).. :happy1:
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Toro Snowblower problem!
Relatively new only 2nd year of use. Everything was workin fine an den...... :banghead:
Da pull start won't start da engine :bonk: I have compression and it pulls just fine but engine won't even cough or spit. Just seems like maybe no spark! :scratch: Now da kicker is when I plug in da extension cord and push da button she fires up right away. I'm hoping dat da electric start don't go out next :snow2::doah: Da snow forecast is for up ta 10 inches starting tonight and lasting till........ :confused:
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PS. I did buy it brand new. :embarrassed:
10" of snow tonight? Where the heck do you live?
I don't think it is very uncommon that you would have a hard time starting a snowblower by hand in cold weather. That's why they put electric starters on them in the first place. I wouldn't even know if mine would start without the electric start when it is cold but I'm betting it would take me a while so I don't even try. Mine starts in 1 pull though when the engine is warm. I bet yours might too.
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Beans. That's what they're made for. My 16 yo blower starts on the 1st or second pull like it should.
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Lee look at the flywheel,The rust from snow melting and humidity can and will rust the magnet that makes spark with a magnito.Pull startin just wont produce a strong spark,but the elec.start will spin it fast enough to make spark.If its rusty just sand it off wit fine sandpapper or emery
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I’ve had an Ariens, and a Toro that would never start with the pull cord if it was very cold, but would start with the cord very east once warm. The Toro I would have to bring in the garage, and warm it up before it would start with the cord, it did not have electric start until I got so frustrated that I bought electric start and installed. The Ariens came with electric start but still you can pull until you’re blue in the face and it won’t start. Plug it in and it starts right away. I don’t know if the larger horsepower machines make a difference or weather it’s way up north where it’s colder? My Toro was a 5 hp and was used in Maple grove. My Ariens was an 11 hp and is used up in Park Rapids.
My 2 cents
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Beans. That's what they're made for. My 16 yo blower starts on the 1st or second pull like it should.
Do you store it in the cold or is it in an attached or heated garage?
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Don't worry about my stuff. My stuff always starts. Not the issue here. Both are outside. And I've been a small engine mechanic since 1973. Outside engines start outside. Your snowmobiles aren't brought in the house, are they?
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I should have mentioned dis before but.... :banghead: When it's runnin I shut it off an den try da pull start immediately while it's still warm and she still won't start. Therefore it ain't cuz da engine is cold.
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Talkin to my mom on the way home from Bismarck. My brother was to be in Chicago and his flight was delayed due to the storm coming in the windy city.
Yea Dave, Lee is a bears fan!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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How bout this Lee. Looking over all the problems ( not only yours) with newer blowers, find yourself a set of train tracks , put the blower right in the middle tgen go buy yourself an older model like mine tgat starts on the first pull...20 years and still throwing snow!!
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Beans. That's what they're made for. My 16 yo blower starts on the 1st or second pull like it should.
Well those Snowpups only have like a 2hp on them! :rotflmao:
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Lee could always just call boober and ask who does his neighbors. :sleazy: :crazy: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Beans. That's what they're made for. My 16 yo blower starts on the 1st or second pull like it should.
Well those Snowpups only have like a 2hp on them! :rotflmao:
Ahh, go rub yer snowpup! :moon: Mine has 8 horses of snortin' power!! And EVERYTHING starts in the cold!!!!
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I should have mentioned dis before but.... :banghead: When it's runnin I shut it off an den try da pull start immediately while it's still warm and she still won't start. Therefore it ain't cuz da engine is cold.
Lay a sticka dynamite under the beatch. That's sure to start sumpn'. Might not run, but sure as hell be fun to watch. :rotflmao:
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and I'm thinking of upgrading...........
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After Tecumseh went belly up most new snowblower engines are Chinese.
Good luck.
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guess not
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The guy told me it's stored outside and he used the pull rope to start it! :rotflmao:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CUmWTbk-3M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CUmWTbk-3M)
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Dump the blower!! Get a :snow2: My Boss always works!
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The guy told me it's stored outside and he used the pull rope to start it! :rotflmao:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CUmWTbk-3M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CUmWTbk-3M)
Well ya!!!! Ya think they have 500' cords with starters in Alaska to their OUTDOOR pump and log splitter engines?! :doofus:
Unless the fuel is fulla ice crystals, and there's air, and spark, it will start! Compressed gas vapors ignited by spark in closed combustion chamber make piston go up and down!!! :rolleyes:
https://youtu.be/uSIiq-OiIiY
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One point no ones brought up yet is how many times it really needs to be primed. Seems like every motor I have ever had with a primer needed just a few or many pumps. Not enough she starves, to many she floods out and takes a lot longer to clear and start.
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Yes. Prime about 3 times. Sometimes more ifs really cold. But, then you may flood it. Richer, denser mixture. How about if we all switch over to LP like the new ice augers and say screw it?
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Wonder if Lee's been workin' on that blower of his? Must not be too worried about the 12" snow I'm sending him today.....Oh, by the way, mine started on the first pull at 6* F this am... :shocked: I had to knock all the snow off it first to find the pull cord handle, though. ;)
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Yup, no gas, no spark, no start. ;) :laugh: Starting to believe this is a spark issue, so I would be pullin the plug & checking that 1st. Ground it against the head & roll it over both manually & electrically. Look for a difference in the amount of spark. If that looked OK then I would try a small amount of gas in the cylinder & see if would fire by using the recoil. Just my .02
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Don't worry about my stuff. My stuff always starts. Not the issue here. Both are outside. And I've been a small engine mechanic since 1973. Outside engines start outside. Your snowmobiles aren't brought in the house, are they?
Yeah, yeah, I've known for years now that you are perfect.
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You were the one that started to question MY stuff. I'm not gonna bite on yer inane baiting statements.
Go try to ruffle sh** up somewhere else.