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Title: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: dakids on December 12/10/18, 03:18:23 AM
http://www.citypages.com/news/this-data-map-of-minnesota-wolves-is-incredible/502160411
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Gunner55 on December 12/10/18, 04:59:33 AM
 :scratch: :cool:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Steve-o on December 12/11/18, 02:50:17 PM
This map is fascinating.  It represents one small part of Voyageurs National Park that the wolves have divvied up amongst themselves.

I wonder how much of the entire state - and Wisconsin and Michigan as well - would be covered with squiggles if every pack had a collared wolf to map their territory.

(http://stmedia.stimg.co/ctyp-wolf-pack-minnesota.jpg?w=800)
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: glenn57 on December 12/11/18, 03:01:51 PM
hell, that map could just as well be Mikey and Reb with trackers on chasing there NL's around the back yard!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

but seriously..........thats crazy and i'm not sure the DNR realy wants the general public to know where all the woofies are here in minnesoda!!!!
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Rebel SS on December 12/11/18, 03:04:38 PM
Looks more like a head CT of Glenn..... :doofus:


So each color is a different pack? If so, note there is very little overlap...marked boundaries!
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: glenn57 on December 12/11/18, 03:14:05 PM
Looks more like a head CT of Glenn..... :doofus:


So each color is a different pack? If so, note there is very little overlap...marked boundaries!
:tut: :tut: :tut:

 apparentle there not like you guys that have that seks thing on your brain all the time.....then i'd bet there be more overlap!!!!!
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Rebel SS on December 12/11/18, 03:20:38 PM
                             :offtopic: :tut:

We're talking wolves here, pony boy!
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: mike89 on December 12/11/18, 03:27:14 PM
just notice the blue area is the smallest....   smurf land going down....   :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Smokey Hills Bandit on December 12/11/18, 04:25:24 PM
Here is some more information regarding MN wolf packs. Information is a bit outdated; last update was 2013

https://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/wildlife/wolves/2013/wolfsurvey_2013.pdf
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Rebel SS on December 12/11/18, 05:03:23 PM
I'd like to know what the mileage is that's represented by each pack and teh "squiggles", and how the deer/moose population compares to adjacent areas that are not show to have the pack territory covered....
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: LPS on December 12/11/18, 06:55:18 PM
Nice maps at the end of that deal Lynch. 
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Leech~~ on December 12/11/18, 07:19:59 PM
http://www.citypages.com/news/this-data-map-of-minnesota-wolves-is-incredible/502160411

Looks like a NYC Bloods and Crips gang map! But there may still be an Open season on them?  :police: :police:   :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: mike89 on December 12/11/18, 07:21:45 PM
that is interesting....
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Steve-o on December 12/12/18, 02:15:26 PM
This map is fascinating.  It represents one small part of Voyageurs National Park that the wolves have divvied up amongst themselves.

I wonder how much of the entire state - and Wisconsin and Michigan as well - would be covered with squiggles if every pack had a collared wolf to map their territory.

(http://stmedia.stimg.co/ctyp-wolf-pack-minnesota.jpg?w=800)

After looking at maps at the bottom of the 2013 wolf survey, I am convinced the wolves have completely divvied up the northern part of our state.

The squibble map shown here is just south of Lake Kabetogama, southeast of International Falls.
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Smokey Hills Bandit on December 12/13/18, 05:04:20 PM
Spot on Steve-O.

No doubt they own the north. 2013 study says there are 438 packs, and the map displays under 40. Now try fitting 400 more circles on that map.

They own Paul Bunyan. Walked past a handful of fresh kills while grouse hunting. Get me the hell outta here! :censored:

(https://tinypix.top/images/2018/12/13/yRf7O.md.jpg) (https://tinypix.top/i/yRf7O)

JL
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Leech~~ on December 12/13/18, 05:13:47 PM
Spot on Steve-O.

No doubt they own the north. 2013 study says there are 438 packs, and the map displays under 40. Now try fitting 400 more circles on that map.

They own Paul Bunyan. Walked past a handful of fresh kills while grouse hunting. Get me the hell outta here! :censored:

(https://tinypix.top/images/2018/12/13/yRf7O.md.jpg) (https://tinypix.top/i/yRf7O)

JL

Paul Bunyan SF?  Odd I hunted there for over 30 years and never once saw a Wolf.  We have now been hunting over above Outing MN and have seen plenty in the last 5 years or so we moved over there.  :confused:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: gophergunner on December 12/18/18, 08:15:18 AM
Well I can tell you without a doubt that they're alive and well in the Emily area.  'Heard em howling the first day of gun season, and the deer were mysteriously absent from the area.  Lots of those big canine footy prints all over the place too.  The locals ain't happy about it either.  Shoot, shovel and shut up must be going strong up there.
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Steve-o on December 12/18/18, 08:54:04 AM
You can only hope.   :whistling:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Smokey Hills Bandit on December 12/27/18, 08:09:26 AM
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Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Smokey Hills Bandit on December 12/27/18, 08:25:41 AM
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Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: K.O.W. on December 12/29/18, 11:00:51 PM
Regardless there's too many wolves. I say that because packs have expanded into Isanti county, ottertail county prime wolf habitat right ? Isanti, the farmland of OTC ? I have found many wolf kills they do not pick on the weak sure they eat those first but don't think for a second they fast for the rest of the months, no they brutally kill whatever they can. Friend today sent me a wolf shot in ottertail county a place where the wintering herd is in for a rude awakening. A place where hundreds of thousands of dollars has gone into deer management. This ought to be interesting. Wolves in there will be ugly deal. Decimate the deer herd until the thaw. I should know i once owned land in there. This 10 quota also is a joke from past wolf hunts the east central mn quota of 10 joke. Our neighbor trapped the 9/10 wolf and there were 7-8 other wolves with him. Hinckley area overrun. This blast 3 deer in our area most Hunter's never saw 3 deer all rifle season, hardly seeing anything and now wolves massacre em until April great what a waste really spending the $ to buy deer land when it becomes wolf land. Anything south of hwy 10 should be no quota in my book none of it is wolf range and this is where read above the problems in my area are south of US HWY 10
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Smokey Hills Bandit on March 03/09/19, 07:46:24 AM
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Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Leech~~ on March 03/09/19, 06:56:25 PM
Not sure if this has been posted. Wolf hunt may be closer than you think!

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/06/700890055/trump-administration-seeks-to-take-gray-wolf-off-endangered-species-list

JL

I'm sure PETA and the other groups will file law suits to block it or at least tie it up for ever!  They really need to look at a state to state need and MN has to Many!  :angry:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: glenn57 on March 03/09/19, 06:58:23 PM
Not sure if this has been posted. Wolf hunt may be closer than you think!

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/06/700890055/trump-administration-seeks-to-take-gray-wolf-off-endangered-species-list

JL

I sure PETA and the other group will fill law suits to block it or at least tie it up for ever!  They really need to look at a state to state need and MN has to Many!  :angry:
really?? You smoking dope??? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Leech~~ on March 03/09/19, 09:14:06 PM
Not sure if this has been posted. Wolf hunt may be closer than you think!

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/06/700890055/trump-administration-seeks-to-take-gray-wolf-off-endangered-species-list

JL

I sure PETA and the other group will fill law suits to block it or at least tie it up for ever!  They really need to look at a state to state need and MN has to Many!  :angry:
really?? You smoking dope??? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
No remember I'm a mushroom eater I was told!  :confused:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Steve-o on March 03/11/19, 12:41:35 PM
Not sure if this has been posted. Wolf hunt may be closer than you think!

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/06/700890055/trump-administration-seeks-to-take-gray-wolf-off-endangered-species-list

Here is a quote from the National Public Radio article.  I was curious about this...

     "There are now more than 5,000 gray wolves in the Lower 48, up from about 1,000 in 1975, according to The Associated Press."

I'm not sure if the Associate Press was reporting that there were 1,000 wolves in 1975 or that there are now more than 5,000 wolves.  Either way, leave it to National Public Radio to under-report the facts.  I did a quick search of states that report wolf populations and I came up with 6,800 to 6,900 wolves in the lower 48 by tallying up estimates from seven states.


I also found a related Associated Press wolf population article from Washington State that talks about their wolf recovery.

https://www.apnews.com/88c73510c4874fd69e7f7b5bd3884580 (https://www.apnews.com/88c73510c4874fd69e7f7b5bd3884580)


In this article, I found the following nugget...

While many urban residents support the return of wolves, livestock producers on the front lines — in the lightly populated northeastern part of the state — are wary.

A state lawmaker from that rural area ... introduced a bill in the Legislature to create a wolf sanctuary in the heavily residential Seattle suburb of Bainbridge Island. Republican Rep. Joel Kretz’s bill was in response to the legislator from Bainbridge Island introducing a bill to ban the killing of wolves.

“I’m sure the gray wolves will seek to placidly co-exist with the dogs, cats, horses, sheep, people and other peaceful animals of the island,” said Kretz, of Wauconda.

His bill also said the state can kill wolves only after “four dogs, four cats or two children have been killed.”



I thought MN had the poor law makers, but we got nothing on the tree-hugging, wing nut legislators in Washington.  This Kretz guy is certifiably ignorant!
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: LPS on March 03/11/19, 12:46:08 PM
How ignorant of the whole situation.
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Leech~~ on March 03/11/19, 01:02:35 PM

Of the Stated 5,000, Minnesota has over 3,000 Wolves alone. More then any state in the lower 48. Seems a bite lopsided. Please take some of ours and spread the Joy!  :mad1:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Rebel SS on March 03/11/19, 01:26:24 PM
They like the free benefits.  :azn:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Steve-o on March 03/11/19, 01:41:54 PM
They like the free benefits.  :azn:

in that case, expect three packs to be relocating to the Rochester area soon!  :bonk:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Rebel SS on March 03/11/19, 01:55:58 PM

Of the Stated 5,000, Minnesota has over 3,000 Wolves alone. More then any state in the lower 48. Seems a bite lopsided. Please take some of ours and spread the Joy!  :mad1:

Has Canada ever stated what their wolf population is?
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Leech~~ on March 03/11/19, 03:00:18 PM

Of the Stated 5,000, Minnesota has over 3,000 Wolves alone. More then any state in the lower 48. Seems a bite lopsided. Please take some of ours and spread the Joy!  :mad1:

Has Canada ever stated what their wolf population is?

If there wasn't a line between Laws it may matter? 
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Rebel SS on March 03/11/19, 03:06:41 PM
What?  Not sure what yer saying...
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Leech~~ on March 03/11/19, 05:06:35 PM
What?  Not sure what yer saying...
That there could be a jazinnlen Wolves in Canada but their not under our laws...........so we can't kill them!  ;)
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Rebel SS on March 03/11/19, 05:12:12 PM
I was just wondering if they wander back and forth across the border, or the numbers shift. I don't understand why we have so many here, and not (?) up there?
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Leech~~ on March 03/11/19, 07:08:09 PM
I was just wondering if they wander back and forth across the border, or the numbers shift. I don't understand why we have so many here, and not (?) up there?

I'm sure the Wolves like some Moose and Elk move back and forth across the boarder. Depends on where the pickens is the best! Just like the southern boarder!     ;) 
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Rebel SS on March 03/11/19, 07:12:44 PM
Uh huh. So shoot every damned one of 'em then, along with all the deer. No CWD; no wolf problems then. Have a big ^%%$# game feed for all the starving masses.
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Leech~~ on March 03/11/19, 09:26:45 PM
Uh huh. So shoot every damned one of 'em then, along with all the deer. No CWD; no wolf problems then. Have a big ^%%$# game feed for all the starving masses.

No never said that. Keep a few for a Zoo somewhere!  :happy1:   :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Jerkbiat on March 03/12/19, 06:39:59 AM
Canada has hunting seasons for Timber wolves.
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Leech~~ on March 03/12/19, 08:37:01 AM
Uh huh. So shoot every damned one of 'em then, along with all the deer. No CWD; no wolf problems then. Have a big ^%%$# game feed for all the starving masses.

AND! 
Biologists believe that more than 5,500 gray wolves remain in the lower 48 states. Currently, populations exist in Alaska, Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan.
 
Since almost all states have Deer in them of one kind or another and only 7 states have recorded Wolves. That means, there are 43 states with deer that seem to be getting along nicely without Wolves and their not all dying of CWD!  :deer: :bambi: :moose105:   :bonk: :bonk: :doah:

Minnesota by far has the highest amount of Wolves then any state in the lower 48! 
Share the Joy around!  :happy1:

 Minnesota: 2,655 (Sept. 2018); Status: Federal protection reinstated via court order December 2014. More information.

» Wisconsin: 905-944 (June 2018); Status: Federal protection reinstated via court order December 2014. More information.

» Michigan: 662 (June 2018); Status: Federal protection reinstated via court order December 2014. More information.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiyuJvy3PzgAhXuo4MKHZsHBbQQFjAKegQICxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnywolf.org%2Flearn%2Fus-wolves&usg=AOvVaw2NAUsOx2kLadqW_Wql7sMA

Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: glenn57 on March 03/12/19, 08:43:39 AM
i still think they should place some in the big city.
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Rebel SS on March 03/12/19, 08:49:10 AM
Ya, they could eat the illegal vermin that thrive here.
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Leech~~ on March 03/12/19, 10:47:25 AM
Ya, they could eat the illegal vermin that thrive here.

Street Thugs?  :scratch:  Or those too!  :happy1:
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Dotch on March 03/12/19, 03:01:50 PM
I found this amazing and somewhat amusing when one kept looking at the various outlets running the story. Interesting the closer one got to the areas where the moose & wolves actually are that the whole story was reported whereas when one looked closer to say the TC the info about the wolves role in moose mortality was frequently glossed over or omitted altogether.

https://www.brainerddispatch.com/news/science-and-nature/4583010-northeastern-minnesota-moose-population-remains-low-stable  (https://www.brainerddispatch.com/news/science-and-nature/4583010-northeastern-minnesota-moose-population-remains-low-stable)
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: delcecchi on March 03/14/19, 08:36:32 PM
If wolves are so great then they need to be reintroduced to all the states.   And the historic Grizzly population needs to be restored in California.   
Title: Re: Mn wolf pack ranges
Post by: Rebel SS on March 03/15/19, 06:57:30 AM
Yup. Wolves in Florida. They can compete with the agigators and crorkindills for those tasty trailer park retirees. *CHOMP*CHOMP*