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Title: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/01/19, 02:24:26 PM
worked in my garage while insuletaing and sheet rocking up u til day befor this weekend, i disconected it from the tank, put it in the back of the truck.for the weekend of ice fishing, used the big house, not the sunflower, i get home wanna heat my garage for a bit, both head wont stay lit, odds of both thermocupler goi g out?? any sugestions??
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/01/19, 02:39:24 PM
go buy something better then a sunflower!!!!!!! them suck!!!!!
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/01/19, 02:41:06 PM
Odds are from inside to outside it now has moisture somewhere in the lines. Thermocouple doesn't normally "just stop" working. Blow out lines and heat heads first. 
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/01/19, 02:42:58 PM
the main fuel line from were it scres into the tank and the channel to the head?
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: HD on January 01/01/19, 02:44:54 PM
I would think Reb is right.
But I would check the connections where the thermocouples come together as well.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/01/19, 02:45:54 PM
the main fuel line from were it scres into the tank and the channel to the head?


Yup. Metering orfice in valve head could have tad of moisture in it.  Clean head; it  (valve) and thermocouple with q-tip and rubbing alcohol. Bet it'll fire right up. Worked on a lot of these. (Make sure ya blow out any "fuzzies" from Qtips!)
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/01/19, 02:51:40 PM
cool thanks reby!!
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/01/19, 02:53:45 PM
Let us know if that works.  Forgot to add make sure ya blow ceramic heat elements out, too. They do get a lot of dust in them.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/01/19, 04:14:39 PM
blew up threw the neck, puff of sheet rock dust came out, did the other and a ljttle.came.out,  tue head with the bigger puff is worki g the other not, needs a little more attention i think.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/01/19, 04:16:24 PM
 :happy1:  And we wanna know when it's workin'.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/01/19, 07:11:45 PM
:happy1:  And we wanna know when it's workin'.
NO we don't! :nerd: :nerd: :rolleyes: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/01/19, 07:49:44 PM
its work cept one, ill fix it
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/01/19, 08:17:08 PM
See all da money ya saved?  ;)
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/01/19, 09:26:44 PM
 :happy1: really appreciate yur help
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/02/19, 09:00:02 AM
Thanks. Just wanted to see it work for ya. Glenns hammering on it would NOT have. 
  :bonk: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/02/19, 07:52:00 PM
1 head still don t work...
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/02/19, 07:56:02 PM
1 head still don t work...

Glenn's?  :rotflmao:  Does yer heater have the double tip switch on it?
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/02/19, 08:01:57 PM
no silly goose, sunflower head, not muffinhead or his mushroomhead either.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: mike89 on January 01/02/19, 08:03:36 PM
hey Boar if ya can't get it going I have one..  If we can make it work I' d give a dang good deal...  just got to figure how to get it to ya..
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/02/19, 08:06:35 PM
Well, some sunflowers DO have the tip switch.......have you tried cleaning the thermocouple tip off with EMERY cloth? You blew out the gas valve, right? The gas line; ie, no obstruction?
Turn on the gas, give it a second, and see if ya can smell the gas from that heads ceramic grid....if not, then the gas isn't making it that far. Bad valve, line, or goo somewhere....last resort, swap the thermocouples around...if that don't do it, ya got a one-headed sunflower!!!!
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/02/19, 08:30:00 PM
gas makes it to the head, i depress plunger gas is eminating, poof it lights, i hold for even up to 30.seconds, till head is yellow glowing, and tip of thermocupler is hot, i release and out it gose.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/02/19, 08:36:29 PM
Like I said get rid if that sunflower, buy a decent heater. Sunflower heater suck.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/02/19, 08:52:30 PM
mikey whats yur deal buddy im i terested.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Jerkbiat on January 01/03/19, 06:46:56 AM
gas makes it to the head, i depress plunger gas is eminating, poof it lights, i hold for even up to 30.seconds, till head is yellow glowing, and tip of thermocupler is hot, i release and out it gose.

I have a single burner sunflower that does the same thing.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: mike89 on January 01/03/19, 07:02:50 AM
mikey whats yur deal buddy im i terested.

have not used in a few years so why not let someone get some use out of it.. 
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/03/19, 07:12:58 AM
gas makes it to the head, i depress plunger gas is eminating, poof it lights, i hold for even up to 30.seconds, till head is yellow glowing, and tip of thermocupler is hot, i release and out it gose.

The thermocouple actually creates a bit of electrical current, which then keeps gas valve open......I'd guess that thermocouple, or wire to it is broken, or valve is closing back up. (Obviously) Might be time to chuck it, depending on how much ya wanna tear it apart and put into it..................
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/03/19, 07:13:36 AM
mikey whats yur deal buddy im i terested.

have not used in a few years so why not let someone get some use out of it..

He can give ya a heck of a deal on a used furnace, too!  :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: mike89 on January 01/03/19, 07:38:30 AM
that's true too!!  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/03/19, 07:40:01 AM
 :rotflmao:

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Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/04/19, 09:51:34 PM
had to replace both thermocouplers at a cost of 20 bucks. and it burning great!
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/04/19, 10:08:16 PM
had to replace both thermocouplers at a cost of 20 bucks. and it burning great!
:happy1: :happy1:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/05/19, 10:10:55 AM
That's THERMOCOUPLE, boar. Don't sound like Glenn and call it a coupler.   :rotflmao:
Glad it's working again. :happy1:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/05/19, 10:13:20 AM
That's THERMOCOUPLE, boar. Don't sound like Glenn and call it a coupler.   :rotflmao:
Glad it's working again. :happy1:
:pouty: :pouty: go back to bed!!!!!!!!! :moon: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/05/19, 10:40:35 AM
i said thermocoupler, and if i was to sound like glenn, i would have said that wire thingymajigger!
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/05/19, 10:42:41 AM
I know...it's a ThermoCOUPLE.....Not COUPLER!!!!  :doah: Used to be a joke about that....

Kinda like selling Glenn some new muffler bearings.... ;)




Thermocouple
noun
ther·​mo·​cou·​ple | \ˈthər-mə-ˌkə-pəl  \
Definition of thermocouple
: a device for measuring temperature in which a pair of wires of dissimilar metals (such as copper and iron) are joined and the free ends of the wires are connected to an instrument (such as a voltmeter) that measures the difference in potential created at the junction of the two metals
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/05/19, 12:45:17 PM
i said thermocoupler, and if i was to sound like glenn, i would have said that wire thingymajigger!
:happy1: :happy1: :happy1: :happy1: :happy1: :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/05/19, 12:46:09 PM
I know...it's a ThermoCOUPLE.....Not COUPLER!!!!  :doah: Used to be a joke about that....

Kinda like selling Glenn some new muffler bearings.... ;)




Thermocouple
noun
ther·​mo·​cou·​ple | \ˈthər-mə-ˌkə-pəl  \
Definition of thermocouple
: a device for measuring temperature in which a pair of wires of dissimilar metals (such as copper and iron) are joined and the free ends of the wires are connected to an instrument (such as a voltmeter) that measures the difference in potential created at the junction of the two metals
:pouty: :pouty: :pouty: :pouty: :crazy: who friggin cares!!!!!!! :doah: :moon: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/05/19, 12:53:14 PM
Ahh, go suck a fish! A spiny one!!     Just don't want the parts guys snickering at ya behind yer back when ya ask them for a "thermocoupler"...... :moon: :moon: :moon:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/05/19, 12:57:09 PM
Ahh, go suck a fish! A spiny one!!     :moon: :moon: :moon:
well ya gotta truck...……... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: well iffin ya wanna call a ford that...……..there usually called pickups!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/05/19, 12:59:15 PM
Ya...and I sold my shack...my auger....my jet sled...my chairs....ya want I should just point my magic wand at the ice and *POOF* up a house and and a hole?!  :angry2:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/05/19, 01:00:52 PM
Ya...and I sold my shack...my auger....my jet sled...my chairs....ya want I should just point my magic wand at the ice and *POOF* up a house and and a hole?!  :angry2:
sure......why not!!!!!!! or Del could help!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/05/19, 01:04:32 PM
 :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: pickelfarmer on January 01/13/19, 10:31:59 PM
one other thing I found out this year is that you shouldn't leave a 1 pounder tank hooked up to the sunflower heater when not in use.. I had mine in the back seat of my truck and the inside of the truck heated up and I heard a Pssssssss sound from the back seat. Next time I went to use the heater, it didn't work. I mentioned this to a friend and he had the same issue a while back.. Un hook the heater from any source of gas when no in use. It ruined my heater..
Glenn, I'm curious what other brand heater you use?
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/13/19, 10:43:14 PM
I have a big buddy and a couple other heaters. I don't remember what there called but I'll take a picture and post.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Gunner55 on January 01/14/19, 08:05:12 AM
I have a big buddy and a couple other heaters. I don't remember what there called but I'll take a picture and post.
:happy1: :shocked: That's OK glenn, I think we all know where most of the hot air around you usually comes from. :evil:  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: ;)
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/14/19, 08:12:56 AM
I have a big buddy and a couple other heaters. I don't remember what there called but I'll take a picture and post.
:happy1: :shocked: That's OK glenn, I think we all know where most of the hot air around you usually comes from. :evil:  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: ;)
:bonk: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: training-087 training-087 :taz: :taz: :pouty: :pouty: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/14/19, 08:42:11 AM
I have a big buddy and a couple other heaters. I don't remember what there called but I'll take a picture and post.
:happy1: :shocked: That's OK glenn, I think we all know where most of the hot air around you usually comes from. :evil:  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: ;)

Ya, both ends... and ya don't wanna leave HIM in yer backseat, either. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/14/19, 05:13:23 PM
Here is the main heater o use for my spear house. I got 2 of them. Bought one at reeds in walker and one at fleet farm. They throw some serious heat.

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Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/14/19, 05:16:44 PM
Cripes! That thing off the space shuttle?! Ya need a flat bed to move it?!
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/14/19, 05:17:48 PM
Ain't that big.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/14/19, 05:19:28 PM
Looks huge! 20 lb tank and hose hook up to it?
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/14/19, 05:23:20 PM
Yep think that plywood bottom is 10 by 10 if that. Maybe 8 by 8 inches sits about 12-14 inches high. Best part it's got a pilot lite don't turn tank off, you can shut the valve down, then next morning turn valve on and poof instant heat!
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/14/19, 05:28:46 PM
Huh! Never seen one of dose!   :happy1:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/14/19, 05:49:14 PM
I love it.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: mike89 on January 01/14/19, 06:35:16 PM
dems are great heaters!!!!   :happy1: :happy1:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Gunner55 on January 01/14/19, 06:40:20 PM
Huh! Never seen one of dose!   :happy1:
Me neither, cann't read the label either.  :confused: What kind is it?
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/14/19, 06:42:29 PM
Huh! Never seen one of dose!   :happy1:
Me neither, cann't read the label either.  :confused: What kind is it?

I think it says "Smurf Blast Furnace Co."........ :evil:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/14/19, 09:18:47 PM
wasnt it muffinhead heater??
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/14/19, 09:39:12 PM
wasnt it muffinhead heater??
old material! :pouty:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: markn on January 01/15/19, 05:53:47 AM
 I believe its called a Nu Way heater. Or something like that. Had one in my old 6x8 house and it heated that up no problem. Still have two of them also, one's in the spearhouse and one in the garage sitting on a shelf.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Jerkbiat on January 01/15/19, 06:05:39 AM
Here is the main heater o use for my spear house. I got 2 of them. Bought one at reeds in walker and one at fleet farm. They throw some serious heat.

The brand is Handi-Heater. Strikemaster used to make/sell them. I have the 20,000 BTU in my fish house. Also have the 15,000 BTU i originally put in the fish house that will be going in a small skid house when I build it. They were actually built by a guy in Wisconsin and sold thru Strikemaster until the guy that dealt with the propane quit. Then strike master quit dealing with them. Can't find them anymore except c-list once in a while. I have the thermostat control on the one in my big fish house. The nice thing about them is no electricity is needed to run them.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: mike89 on January 01/15/19, 06:57:57 AM
they are a darn good heater too!!!
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/15/19, 08:51:57 AM
Is this one of those? 

  https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/for/d/saint-paul-propane-heater/6757299214.html
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/15/19, 09:08:55 AM
no. kinda, but not really!!!!!!!!!! :doah: the gas part look similar, body not so much. mines smaller and has a gaurd around the part that gets hot/holds the  heat element!
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/15/19, 09:12:07 AM
That might be nice to sit on and keep yer butt warm... ;)
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Jerkbiat on January 01/15/19, 09:21:26 AM
Like Glenn said. Same design, but different brand.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/15/19, 09:22:41 AM
Looks like it's up for grabs!  :cheesy:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Dotch on January 01/15/19, 03:19:30 PM
Remember some of the resorts had those on Mille Lacs when we'd do our college weekend excursions that way. A lot of cars didn't start but everyone stayed toasty inside!  :happy1:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/15/19, 03:23:45 PM
Remember some of the resorts had those on Mille Lacs when we'd do our college weekend excursions that way. A lot of cars didn't start but everyone stayed toasty inside!  :happy1:

From the heaters?  ;)
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: mike89 on January 01/15/19, 03:34:42 PM
Remember some of the resorts had those on Mille Lacs when we'd do our college weekend excursions that way. A lot of cars didn't start but everyone stayed toasty inside!  :happy1:

From the heaters?  ;)

depends on what the definition is of heaters today!!!   :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Dotch on January 01/15/19, 03:36:37 PM
Well yes, there was that too altho Fireball hadn't come into vogue yet at that time. Plenty of Robert's ancestors however.  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/15/19, 04:15:48 PM
Plenty of Robert's ancestors however.  :rotflmao:

I think I saw Robert's grandpa with Boar's grandpa in a movie once.....  :scratch:

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Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: glenn57 on January 01/15/19, 07:16:43 PM
Plenty of Robert's ancestors however.  :rotflmao:

I think I saw Robert's grandpa with Boar's grandpa in a movie once.....  :scratch:
:laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll:
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Rebel SS on January 01/15/19, 07:32:39 PM
They were arguing over a hot dog.
Title: Re: double sunflower head issues
Post by: Boar on January 01/15/19, 07:45:34 PM
 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: