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Hunting Forums => General Hunting & Hunting Gear => Topic started by: glenn57 on January 01/05/21, 01:50:55 PM
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ok, so i am getting into seriously thinking about new scope purchases. i WILL be replacing the scope on my 30-06. i'm pretty set on either a vortex diamondback or the crossfire II. or a leapold 3 x 9 x 40. i've been told those scopes are close in quality but vortex right now has the best warrranty in the market right now.
for various reasons i am almost certain i will be purchasing these at the Cabelas in rogers. i have a cabelas gift card and several visa gift cards.
my main concern is a decent scope for my little 22. its a browning lever action. any ideas on what brand, kind i should be looking at.?????
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I am happy with my Nikon Prostaff Rimfire II on a Ruger 10/22. It is a more than adequate for the paper punching I do with it.
I also see that it Nikon seems to have gotten out of the scope business. I don't remember when this happened. Does anyone else know what happened here?
Update: Gun control: Nikon withdrawing from the rifle scope business (https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/nikon-is-exiting-the-rifle-scope-business/)
All I could find is that they decided to get out of a competitive market in 2019, which is too bad, because I did liked the glass in their scopes (and cameras). Still it makes me wonder if the real reason was because some muckety-muck decided that guns were evil.
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I took off a 3x9x50 Nikon pro staff, and replaced it with a vortex 3x12x56 crossfire. I didn't care for the clarity of the Nikon with no eye relief adjustment.
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I took off a 3x9x50 Nikon pro staff, and replaced it with a vortex 3x12x56 crossfire. I didn't care for the clarity of the Nikon with no eye relief adjustment.
how do you like that vortex HD?!
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I literally just put it on tonight. I like the optics a lot. This weekend will be the sight in, and see how it performs. This on my new ar, and is rated for the gun.... so we'll see.
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Good to know. Like I said, I don't demand too much from that paper punching plinker.
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I know *real* riflemen will want to spend as much or more on a scope as they do the rifle, but that long range, last minute of daylight, F-class competition, sub-sub MOA is not what I'm looking for based on how I hunt in MN.
I like to start here. Field and Steam posts an updated article on "best scopes" every few years. I reckon they are as objective as you can be and it is good to read about which high end features are now being offered at lower prices.
Field and Stream: 10 Best Budget Riflescopes (https://www.fieldandstream.com/10-best-budget-riflescopes/)
P.S. Outdoor Life recently had some articles too...
The 13 Best New Precision Riflescopes Put to the Test (https://www.outdoorlife.com/story/gear/the-best-precision-riflescopes-for-2020/)
The 17 Best New Versatile Riflescopes Put to the Test (https://www.outdoorlife.com/story/gear/the-best-versatile-riflescopes-of-2020/)
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thanks steveo, i'm in the budget category. leaning towards the leapolds at the moment. will decide when i get there, i think.
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You can't go wrong with a Leopold, but it is a very competitive market and it is fun to see what else is out there.
I got my Leopold VariX II 2.5x7 umpteen years ago (40?). The tech has improved dramatically, but that scope still aims straighter than I shoot.
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i just put a vortex on my 06 and love. cant go wrong!!
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oh and gleen....deer season is over....just saying
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oh and gleen....deer season is over....just saying
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: for you maybe!!!!!!!1 :mooning: :mooning:
i like to be prepared........ summers can be hectic.........and i want to to bling some lead threw it!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
i'll definetly be looking at the vortex!!
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I recently got some Vortex binocs. LOVE THEM!! And Made in USA!
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oh and gleen....deer season is over....just saying
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: for you maybe!!!!!!!1 :mooning: :mooning:
i like to be prepared........ summers can be hectic.........and i want to to bling some lead threw it!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
i'll definetly be looking at the vortex!!
Just getting ready for the revolution are you. :doofus:
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I'm ready!
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oh and gleen....deer season is over....just saying
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: for you maybe!!!!!!!1 :mooning: :mooning:
i like to be prepared........ summers can be hectic.........and i want to to bling some lead threw it!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
i'll definetly be looking at the vortex!!
Just getting ready for the revolution are you. :doofus:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: yea maybe!!!!!!!!!! :happy1: :evil:
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I'm ready!
:happy1: :happy1:purty nice setup bud!!!!!!!!!
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looks great HD!!! :happy1:
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WOW!! That looks sweet HD. Where did you get the wood accessories?
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WOW!! That looks sweet HD. Where did you get the wood accessories?
Boyd's Gunstocks
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So next week, after Valentine's, I'm headed towards the big city. Plan is to hit cabela's for my new scopes. My question is what is Cabela's store policy, if anyone knows, about bringing guns into the store?? I already know cased and not loaded. Do I need to check them in at the service counter or can I just Walz back to the gun/ scope dept.??
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I see what you did there. :bonk:
I can't help you with Cabela's, but when you go down to Ahlman's Gun Shop in Morristown, MN, they have big signs as you walk up the stairs telling you all guns should be uncased with the actions open when you walk in.
Its kinda weird the first time - when you are so used to keeping everything cased everywhere - to pull 'em out and open 'em up.
I asked them why they did things their way. They said they want to see your gun is unloaded when you walk in the door, not when the pull it out of the case on the bench. They said way to many loaded guns made it into the store when the guns were cased with closed actions.
(Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that Ahlman's method would be appropriate for Cabelas.)
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Cabela's -Best option is to have it in the case and come to the front door. Let the first person you see know that you have one to take to the gun counter. They will direct you where to go.
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thanks guys......thinking the same deadeye.......go straight to the service counter. :happy1:
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I see what you did there. :bonk:
I can't help you with Cabela's, but when you go down to Ahlman's Gun Shop in Morristown, MN, they have big signs as you walk up the stairs telling you all guns should be uncased with the actions open when you walk in.
Its kinda weird the first time - when you are so used to keeping everything cased everywhere - to pull 'em out and open 'em up.
i plead the 5th. :tut: :tut: :tut: this has been in the plan sice the end of deer hunting :happy1: merely a timing issue!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I see what you did there. :bonk:
I can't help you with Cabela's, but when you go down to Ahlman's Gun Shop in Morristown, MN, they have big signs as you walk up the stairs telling you all guns should be uncased with the actions open when you walk in.
Its kinda weird the first time - when you are so used to keeping everything cased everywhere - to pull 'em out and open 'em up.
i plead the 5th. :tut: :tut: :tut: this has been in the plan sice the end of deer hunting :happy1: merely a timing issue!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Walz right in... waltz right out. :happy1:
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I had one of their "gunsmiths" look at one of my guns, I checked it in at the service counter before walking back to the gun section.
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I had one of their "gunsmiths" look at one of my guns, I checked it in at the service counter before walking back to the gun section.
:happy1: thanks.
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I had one of their "gunsmiths" look at one of my guns, I checked it in at the service counter before walking back to the gun section.
:happy1: thanks.
BUT.......The "gunsmith" didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground... they told me that I had a gun that had 2 different models put into one, and couldn't be fixed....
Just be careful my friend....
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I had one of their "gunsmiths" look at one of my guns, I checked it in at the service counter before walking back to the gun section.
:happy1: thanks.
BUT.......The "gunsmith" didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground... they told me that I had a gun that had 2 different models put into one, and couldn't be fixed....
Just be careful my friend....
:happy1: just wanna get a couple scopes and get them bore sited. I'll fling lead through them to site in also.... Is I can find bullets. :confused:
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finally.........got my scopes replaced. went with Vortex on both guns. for the 22 went with the rimfire one, deer rifle was a 3 x 9 X40, both diamondbacks!!!
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thats a nice littlenscope......aint gona help. but its nice
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thats a nice littlenscope......aint gona help. but its nice
:confused: :confused: :banghead: :banghead: :taz: how bout we put a bullseye on your azz and we try.......i'll just use birdshot!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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On my Ruger 1022 I put a cheap Bushnell 3X9 and loved it for snowshoes. So easy to pick through the brush. :happy1:
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finally.........got my scopes replaced. went with Vortex on both guns. for the 22 went with the rimfire one, deer rifle was a 3 x 9 X40, both diamondbacks!!!
No excuse for misses now.
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might as well use a sling shot buddy...but hey... cant the money with you.
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might as well use a sling shot buddy...but hey... cant the money with you.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :mooning: :mooning: :mooning:
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OK, you sharpshooters, snipers. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rotflmao: got the 22 zeroed in. :happy1: my 30-06, bore sited, my azz. :confused: long story short I went to 50 yards roughly. Right and left is :happy1:. My high/ low is still 8-9 inches low and I had to have turned it up at least 11/2 rounds. :scratch:
I had this issue with a scope I put on a 30-30 but don't recall how many rotations I moved it up before I got it zeroed in.
So my question is, just how many rotations on the up/down can I go before I guy needs to maybe shim the scope? Is this normal on occasions?
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That's a lot! How much will your POA change per turn?
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1/4 inch. Per click. So I'm assuming 1/4 inch per hundred yards.
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I would think you'd still be fine but why not call the place you bought the scope from and see what they say.
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I've never "shimmed" a scope in my life...
Scope not tight enough?
Are these see through scope rings?
Did you buy a crappy cheap scope?
Yeah...bore sighting " might" get you on the paper. I usually will crack a couple off at 50' with a 36"X 36" piece of cardboard just to see what to expect. Then adjust from there.
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I bought the diamond backs from vortex 2 hundys.
Yes I believe there rings.
I keep plugging away, I got all summer yet. Just needed to take a break. For a target I was using a 2 ft by 4 ft political sign. :rotflmao:
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:scratch: Let me guess, Pelosi or Walz? :doofus: :confused: ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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Nixon
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: naw actually Lori Swanson for governor. :sleazy: hey she's hot. :sleazy:
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everytime ive biught a scope, ive bought from a reputable store that knows how to mount and boar site, the vortex i bought last fall was done so well and it was actually on at 100 yrds. somethings wrong glenn. take and get it properly boar sited
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I bought them at Cabela's. I know they've taken a hit katey reputation wise but can't be that bad yet.
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id take embto a smith.rings could be cranked down to tigjt or not enough.
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Just when glenn started this thread all was well with my vortec scope on my .22,then friday the cross hairs started to break,this is the second time in 5 years,looking thru the scope was like looking through a kaleidoscope but dead center was spot on,so the good news the vortec scope is a dandy when its functioning with a lifetime warrenty,so dropped the scope off at my local sport shop to let them send it in and wouldn't ya know when I got home the neighborhood squrriels were having a meeting at my feeders,fixed em with wd40 on the feeder pole.very amusing.
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yesterday when i went into st cloud i hunted down a gun/gunsmith shop right by fleet farm called guns and gear. talked to them about my issue. they said they see alot of that and would check it out and bore sight it for $30.00. ididnt bring the gun because i wanted to check them out first so next week i'll be going back!!!!!!! :happy1:
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what???? you brough a sope to he boar sited with no gun....to many opportunities here. sensory overload..shuting down...
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what???? you brough a sope to he boar sited with no gun....to many opportunities here. sensory overload..shuting down...
:pouty: :pouty: :crazy: :doofus: it's no wonder.... Meh never mind. :surrender: :doah: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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$30? Highway robbery. Just buy one of those laser sight in things. They work great and you will have it forever.
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$30? Highway robbery. Just buy one of those laser sight in things. They work great and you will have it forever.
I need to know also LPS if they mounted it right with the correct rings or whatever needs to be done.
Tracking that deer last fall for 4 hours still haunts me :confused: training-087 :banghead:
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When I bought my .243 a few years ago it was supposed to be bore sighted at the factory. When I went and shot it the scope wasn't even tightened up. I had a guy bore sight my Ithaca Deer Slayer about 30 years ago when I bought it. I had to force him to take $5. Still to this day it is right on the mark. And it isn't babied neither. I want to get one of those lazer bore sighters too. I just looked on Amazon and there are countless models for under $30. They come with multiple calibers of sight in things. I am ordering one.
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lol traked for 4 hours, ya missed of course, bullit hit a rock and a chunk of lead richoceted and hit the deer... oh glenn.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Glenn I just ordered a July Tech bore sighter. The best looking one I saw and it's only $39.99. My .22 needs tuning in and will use it to check my .243 also. Even works on shotguns. Can't wait! Thanks for the inspiration my friend. :happy1:
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lol traked for 4 hours, ya missed of course, bullit hit a rock and a chunk of lead richoceted and hit the deer... oh glenn.
:tut: :tut: :mooning: :mooning: :confused: :rotflmao:
Dingleberry. :moon:
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dropped off the gun yesterday at this guns and gear store and had them take a look see. had some other running to do so....... couple hours later stopped and picked it up.......said he tightened things down and re-bore sighted the scope, and yea it was off. he suggested starting at 25 yards, i thought :scratch: :scratch: even boar could hit something at that distance???? :rotflmao:
he told me get it in the bullseye at that distance and then go out to 100 yards and you should be close!!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1: so next trip north.............
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:happy1: :happy1:
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i really liked what i seen and heard at this place. hope i dont need a gunsmith often, but i'll be stopping in more often!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I just looked at the reciept from that place.
$30.00 for the work.
$2.06 MN sales tax.
.15 cents st cloud area sales tax.
.08 cents Stearns county sales tax.
:doofus: :doofus: :sleazy:
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I just looked at the reciept from that place.
$30.00 for the work.
$2.06 MN sales tax.
.15 cents st cloud area sales tax.
.08 cents Stearns county sales tax.
:doofus: :doofus: :sleazy:
You don't have a new domed stadium up there!
What is your extra $0.23 paying for? :confused:
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I just looked at the reciept from that place.
$30.00 for the work.
$2.06 MN sales tax.
.15 cents st cloud area sales tax.
.08 cents Stearns county sales tax.
:doofus: :doofus: :sleazy:
You don't have a new domed stadium up there!
What is your extra $0.23 paying for? :confused:
who knows. :confused: st cloud.... Probably paying for the rivers edge convention center, new government building they want, the baseball park they built for the st cloud saints baseball team :scratch: :scratch:
The county???
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The Stearn's County Syndrome Research Center.
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The Stearn's County Syndrome Research Center.
:rotflmao: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: :laughroll: which one would that be. The one for people who drink, or marry there first cousin. :rotflmao:
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Both of the above. Centered in the Avon Hills area and radiating out from there. (Well beyond the Cold Spring Granite People.)
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Ok Glenn now you are costing me some money. I got that Lazer sight in thing today. I haven't felt good about my .22 scope for some time. I can't seem to get it sighted in. I am getting a complex thinking it is me but no that can't be. LOL The thing is cool as heck. Green light. Well when I was trying to turn my scope to match the lazer I couldn't even turn my up and down enough to get there. So I got it very close but not perfect and went and shot at a box about 30 yards away. Hit 4" to the right and 2" high no matter where I turned knobs. My scope has expired. It is a Bushnell Sportview and about 20 years old. SO I think I need to get a new scope. I got some Vortex binocs a couple of years ago and can't believe how clear they are every time I look through them. I can get a Vortex Diamond back scope for $189. It's 7 x 35. It will be for short distance.
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: not sure the variable of mine, but I got the vortex diamondback for mine. think it was in that price range too.
My 30-06 scope is the vortex also.
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Great minds think alike!!! :sleazy:
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Great minds think alike!!! :sleazy:
NOW if we could only get boar to think like us, he'd actually turn out to be somebody!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I bought my Remington Fieldmaster pump .22 in about 2000. Love the gun. Got it with a Bushnell Sportview 3 x 9 scope on it. I just looked at Bushnell's warranty. Guaranteed for life on a riflescope means 30 years. SO it is under warranty. I entered my info and they gave me a case number to send it in. Each scope has a number on it so they can trace the age etc. I sent it in today. We shall see.
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Great minds think alike!!! :sleazy:
Did you ever live in Stearns County?
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Great minds think alike!!! :sleazy:
Did you ever live in Stearns County?
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :tut: :tut: :tut:
did you roony??? :scratch: :doah: you seem to know an aweful lot of this stearns county syndrome and the Avon Hills misteek!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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I bought my Remington Fieldmaster pump .22 in about 2000. Love the gun. Got it with a Bushnell Sportview 3 x 9 scope on it. I just looked at Bushnell's warranty. Guaranteed for life on a riflescope means 30 years. SO it is under warranty. I entered my info and they gave me a case number to send it in. Each scope has a number on it so they can trace the age etc. I sent it in today. We shall see.
:banghead: :banghead: training-087 :taz: :doah: :doah: :doah:
never thunk of looking into warranty of my scopes. :confused: oh well, i got me 2 nice and pretty brand spanky new scopes now!!!!!!!! :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:
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Never lived there. Been through before. I just read that Waite Park is the #1 city in MN with the most serious crimes per capita. Murder, rape, armed robbery etc. Guess what town is #2 in that category? Bemidji! This has nothing to do with scopes unless you use one committing a crime or maybe self defense so I am still on topic. :happy1:
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Wow, Bemidji is #2. :crazy:
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Just saw on the news today. 2 Native males shooting guns at cars and hit a business or two??? Still looking for them. Once a week there are alerts looking for someone. Usually young people. Unreal!
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Great minds think alike!!! :sleazy:
Did you ever live in Stearns County?
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :tut: :tut: :tut:
did you roony??? :scratch: :doah: you seem to know an aweful lot of this stearns county syndrome and the Avon Hills misteek!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Went to school at Collegeville. I still got some good friends up that way. Lots of nice little pothole lakes north of Richmond. I worked part time at a small liquor store in Waite Park, Coborn brothers owned it.
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I just read that Waite Park is the #1 city in MN with the most serious crimes per capita. Murder, rape, armed robbery etc.
I heard the demographics of the Cloud area are changing rapidly. I don't have any evidence to back that up.
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GF's daughter lives not far from the old shopko, south of there.. sold there house and getting the heck out of there....
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I just read that Waite Park is the #1 city in MN with the most serious crimes per capita. Murder, rape, armed robbery etc.
I heard the demographics of the Cloud area are changing rapidly. I don't have any evidence to back that up.
Yah, I dont think they're all Germans now.
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Great minds think alike!!! :sleazy:
Did you ever live in Stearns County?
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :tut: :tut: :tut:
did you roony??? :scratch: :doah: you seem to know an aweful lot of this stearns county syndrome and the Avon Hills misteek!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Went to school at Collegeville. I still got some good friends up that way. Lots of nice little pothole lakes north of Richmond. I worked part time at a small liquor store in Waite Park, Coborn brothers owned it.
do I suppose in your spare time you were chasing all the bennies!!! :sleazy: :smoking: :rotflmao:
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Violated a few, I was pretty pious and shy for the most part though unless I was drinkin.
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I bought my Remington Fieldmaster pump .22 in about 2000. Love the gun. Got it with a Bushnell Sportview 3 x 9 scope on it. I just looked at Bushnell's warranty. Guaranteed for life on a riflescope means 30 years. SO it is under warranty. I entered my info and they gave me a case number to send it in. Each scope has a number on it so they can trace the age etc. I sent it in today. We shall see.
:banghead: :banghead: training-087 :taz: :doah: :doah: :doah:
never thunk of looking into warranty of my scopes. :confused: oh well, i got me 2 nice and pretty brand spanky new scopes now!!!!!!!! :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:
:scratch: No wonder you could only afford 1 blade for your saw! ;) :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:
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I just received a brand new scope from Bushnell the other day. It's a basic no fancy one but it is on my .22 so not so critical. Good to know the lifetime warranty is worth something though. It is a Banner Dusk to Dawn 3-9 x 40.