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General Category => Health Discussion => Topic started by: glenn57 on October 10/24/21, 07:29:06 PM
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my brother was out at our stepdads in new richmond bow hunting.
long story short, he called me tonight to let me know mom wasnt looking so good! seems her skin is a bit yellow. find out she has had some testing done, blood work, and they found a few thigs not quite right that leads toward liver issues.
anyway, tuesday morning she goes in for an ultra sound. she insists noone needs to go with.....but i will be there wether she wants me there or not. she thinks not eating anything is going to help, something with her intestines. i think its nerves or stress!!!!! anyway she's coming home tomorrow and i'm gonna have a face to face talk.
i'm going to try and convince her to authorize the doctors to give us information.
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totally agree.. a gal from the area has jaundice, not good and I hope your Mom can get help!!! good luck bud!!!!!
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Prayers for mom.
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Prayers for mom.
Same here, hoping for the best & don't let her shut the rest of you out.
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Prayers and hugs!!
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tough deal glenn,sorry to hear,if it's liver (jauntice) which it most likely is,I went thru this with my gal,her eyes actually yellowed,meds helped a bunch,hopefully she'll be fine glenn,aging....ugh.
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Hoping for the best for your Mom Glenn!
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Good luck for your Mom Glenn!
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Good luck from me also Glenn.
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:happy1: :happy1:THANKS guyz, yea i didnt sleep so well last night...................a million things running through your head!!!!!
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glenn57 - Sorry to hear about your mom. Yes you should get her to sign a health care directive. Of course you may have to convince her that it doesn't mean you get to pull the plug whenever you want. I don't mean to make light of the situation but it's a big concern and stops many older folks from signing a health care directive.
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Deadeye I believe she had that already. I'm talking the authorization, think HIPPA, so the doctors will tell us what is going on.
I'm not 100% certain but I believe that authorization is required each time and or with each entity. But I will ba asking.
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Maybe use this one.
What is a Medical Power of Attorney?
A Medical Power of Attorney is a document used to appoint someone to make medical decisions on your behalf.
A Medical Power of Attorney is also known as:
Health Care Power of Attorney
Health Care Proxy
Durable Power of Attorney for Health Care
Power of Attorney Medical
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Agree with D.E. do it now glenn power of attorny health directive,your mother can declare her healthcare if she should become incompacitated....recently went thru this with my dad in senior care,it gives you control as situation's arise,and they will.,you can wing the POA yourself or seek legal consel ,I'm not that smart so legal consulation gave me piece of mind,I also recommend the POA in order to act as mother's attorney minnesota statue 523.23,then submitt this copy to your mothers bank unless you are on her account as joint.
Also I was nieve about filing the proper will in the state of minnesota,glad I had an att'y to set me straight,thought the will was just a hand scratch'd paper for who get's what when the time comes,signed by my father.
Guessing your mom is pushing 90 glenn,tough deal watching our parents age,after dealing with my 93yr old dad/dementia recently,I'm not keen on getting much older,dang body started falling apart at 65 several years ago,not like a young buck that will bounce back after a hiccup or two,It was a major chore getting my dad in a home,he fought us kids the entire way, it was the memories of our house,then when we tricked him to the home it took two months for him to realize he's not going home,old fart offered me cash to take him home at times before it finally sank in,heart breaking really.
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I am health care power of attorney for my mother. I have access to any information she would have access to. I also have power to make decisions regarding her care.
Good luck with your mother Glenn.
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She already has that all set up. My dad was pretty good at getting things in order and when he was diagnosed with terminal cancer early on he made sure all things were in order.
Since I'm the #2 son :confused: :rotflmao: I'm sure my brother is most things. She did tell me the medical info is in both our names this morning.
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Good luck glenn! Hope all goes well for your mom. :happy1:
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Hoping for the best for your Mom Glenn.
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Good luck to Mom!
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Thanks guys. We are back already from the ultrasound, they said an hour, 20 minutes after they took her back we where headed to the door.
Guess they are sending it to st cloud to have someone read it, then send it to her doctor. Could have a meeting with the doctor by noonish.
She did look in better spirits today then yesterday
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glenn57,
regarding them sending the ultrasound to another location for review. Probably not an issue with your mother but we did run into a money issue with this a few years back. You know how annual physicals and some diagnostics (mammogram) are generally no cost IN network. Well the clinic sent them to another location NOT in the network and we were billed for them reading the mammogram. It took a bit and a number of call but I did manage to get the charge reversed. As if you don't have enough to worry about they throw in another wrinkle.
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Deadeye, the ultrasound was done at the paynsvelle hospital, part of the Centracares system which does include the st cloud hospital where they sent it to a gastroenterologist I think to read.
Mom has never complained about her insurance, she used to work for the school district here and dad the Burlington northern RR, so from what I know she's pretty well taken care of insurance wise.
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glenn57,
That's great. It's something to note for anyone. You just have to keep on top of these thing. ;)
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glenn57,
That's great. It's something to note for anyone. You just have to keep on top of these thing. ;)
oh yea, did my fair share of that!🥴
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Good info D.E. all this info on a outdoor site....thanx once again D.E.
side note glenn,don't assume these details you "think" are in order,make sure,otherwise a hard lesson as in my case,my sister turned out to be a snake after my mother died and my dad in senior care but working thru the issues best I can...,but by all means it's very important you or your brother has the POA for healthcare and another for her financials.
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About 2:30 this afternoon mom asked me to go to the clinic as she hadn't Heard nothing yet, only to find out her doc had the day off.
Tomorrow I guess.
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Brother got a call & had to reschedule his yearly checkup back home as his Dr. was going to be out of the office on the day he had originally scheduled too. He has a few days every month where he goes to some clinics in some of the smaller surrounding towns as well.
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Just got off the phone with my brother. He talked to mom, she got her results via MyChart. Turns out what is good news, but she's in real pain. Sounds like something a gastroenterologist needs to look into.
Headed up to moms shortly if the doc doesn't call by 10 I'll be headed to the clinic personally.
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Ended up taking her to the ER at the st cloud hospital. Talk about a sheet show to get in. But that's another story.
So there going to do a C-scan but sounds like the culprit is gall stones. And mayhaps removing the gall bladder.
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well hopefully that is all of the problem and she recovers fast when they do surgery...
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Ended up taking her to the ER at the st cloud hospital. Talk about a sheet show to get in. But that's another story.
So there going to do a C-scan but sounds like the culprit is gall stones. And mayhaps removing the gall bladder.
Glad they as least tracked down the issue and hope for a fast recovery for her. :happy1:
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Thanks guys, Yea me too. I don't think if I hadn't gone to the clinic, with the printed MyChart document in hand we wouldn't be where we are.
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Wishing you and your mom the best. Prayers are on the way.
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Good luck with yer Mom. Hope all turns out OK.
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:happy1: thanks guys. Guess along with the stones, she has a cyst on her pancreas, something with her colon and something else :scratch:. They haven't decided if an MRI is needed yet but something may proceed tomorrow.
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Hope all goes well with your Mom today Glenn.
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Hope all goes well with your Mom today Glenn.
:happy1: yea me too........hope they can actually do something today to help her...........not really caring for the idea of more exploring but i'm not a doc and maybe doing it up right the first time is the route to go.
all i know, she's said it several times......whatever it is she wants it out of there!!!!!! my brother in his younger days did alot of training when he was a member of the fire dept....he'll bug the hell outta them!!!!!!! :sleazy: :sleazy: :happy1:
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It does sound like gallbladder. My stepson just went thru that with his this past summer.
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She went in for an endoscopy about 11 according to my brother. Said she should be out by 1. He said they may be issues according to the PA. Yea the effin C word was mentioned. My blood pressure is pounding and my guts aren't playing very nice right now.
It's like I don't even wanna hear from my brother. :surrender: :doah:
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hang in there Glenn... 🤞
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hang in there Glenn... 🤞
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Calm down Glenn. Easy for me to say.
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Hang tough buddy prayers for yur moms
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so my brother called me about an hour ago. guess they had a difficult time but they got it done. they took 2 biopsys and put in 2 stents. guess one duct wouldnt open and must of been alot of drainage. they got it done though. biopsy results will take about a week.
brother said she seemed fine when he left and was just glad it was done!!!!!!!!!
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sounds good maybe then!!! sure hope so Glenn!!! :happy1:
stay positive buddy!!!
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so my brother called me about an hour ago. guess they had a difficult time but they got it done. they took 2 biopsys and put in 2 stents. guess one duct wouldnt open and must of been alot of drainage. they got it done though. biopsy results will take about a week.
brother said she seemed fine when he left and was just glad it was done!!!!!!!!!
Why is there no LIKE button showing on this thread but all the rest? LIKE! :happy1:
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I have noticed a few other threads like this too lately, Leech~~. Hopefully she will be feeling much better today & the biopsy results will come back benign. Any idea yet when they'll let her go home? Keep your chin up, Bud!! Thoughts & prayers sent.
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Hang in there Glenn and try to stay positive. I know it is hard to do. Hoping for the best for your Mom!
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thanks guys.........gunner not sure, the doctors never came back to moms room.......at least before my brother left. he said he'd be there by 8 today, so he dont miss any doctors!!!!!!
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Sounded like the surgery was pretty serious so I'd be surprised if it wasn't at least late Saturday/early Sunday as they probably want to see how she's doin today. They should have an idea after that, I would think.
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Sounds like good news that she got those stents Glenn. That should help. Hope everything else goes well for her.
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Text from my brother this morning said everything was looking good so far. Waiting for the gastrologist to come in. And maybe even head home today. :happy1:
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sounds real good Glenn!!! :happy1:
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Yes it does but them damn biopsy scare the bejesus out of me.
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Just got word mom will be headed home shortly. :happy1: :happy1:
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that's great!!! :happy1: :happy1: hope she heals fast!!! :happy1:
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Good to hear!!! :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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went to see her for a bit yesterday.........she got her color back again. :happy1: moving a little slow, but to be expected......... the stents they put in are temporary, she goes in on dec 23 rd to have them removed then they decide if they put permanent ones in or not. then there's the biopsy.......... :doah: :surrender:
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keep thinking positive!! good for her!! :happy1:
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Yep, stay positive Glenn. Glad she is feeling better.
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Best wishes for your mom Glenn
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so a little update. the surgeon was a bit concerned, her tests from the first procedure came back negative for the C word, but he is confused. he had originally thought of sending her to the U of M. instead they moved up her checkup. that was done this past monday. this surgeon worked at the Mayo at one time.
a week earlier she started not feeling good and her eating started to suck again. they went in and took the temporary stents in, found them to be blocked, so they put bigger ones in. they did some more tests, and we are waiting for those results. at this point there trying to figure out just WHY this is happening???????
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Hope all gets figured out with her Glenn. Even as smart as the docs are they are still making educated guesses. Hoping for the best for her.
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Thanks for the update, glenn! I was wondering what the latest news was, hope she starts feelin better soon.
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my best for her Glenn, and JB is 100% right about the Drs.
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thanks guys..yea she is doing good. looks good too!!!!!1 hell she even went and had an A & W ice cream cone yesterday :happy1: :rotflmao:
she did send everyone an email last night saying she wasnt up to, or strong enough yet to do her christmas eve dinner, thing. i agree she gets tuckered out fast. and i smiled inside........ :evil: :rolleyes:
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That sounds like good news Glenn. :happy1:
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For sure!
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My best to her glenn! Hope she continues to make progress & they can figure it out. :happy1:
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Last Friday mom had to have these stents replaced and they sent her to the U of M. I guess they talked about and decided when they replaced them they put 2 new ones in that where like a splitter! Doc says she should be good now for 6 months instead of having to go every 3.
They did say she had a tumor in her liver, but it was a hard tumor :scratch: and probably cancer. But because it was or is a hard tumor they don't want to treat it with chemo or radiation unless things go south
My brother told me she has a big problem with the U because when she says something they don't jump through hoops right away :rotflmao: yep sounds like mom and her mom was the same way. When they said no hurry, whenever you get time, that meant drop what your doing and get there!🙄
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Figured I'd put this subject where it belongs. So Monday mom has to go to the U because they can't do the procedure there with the type of stent used . She's already bucky cause she has to go there. She assumes they'd do it Tuesday.
Tuesday comes and they can't do it, I didn't get a reason. I'd assume doc busy and no surgical room. Mom expects them to jump through hoops to get it done
They did the procedure today about 1. Got back to her room buy 4:15. I'm getting the info from her husband. Has to stay overnight. Oh boy. Good thing she's pretty sleepy after this. But I'm not looking forward to that first visit with her! :doah: I assume he will bring her back to her house tomorrow!
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Hang tough brother!!!
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Hang tough brother!!!
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dang hope it went well, we are with you buddy!!!
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Ya, hope all went well too!!
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It usually does, lasts for a while then rinse repeat. I just want to get the first visit over with cause I know it's going to be negative! But she will be feeling a whole lot better!; :happy1:
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Hope it went well. Thinkin' of ya, bud. Don't envy the spot you're in. :sad:
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I hear you glenn. Went through the same thing with my mother. Nothing was done when she thought it should be, doctors weren't coming to see her when she thought they should, the list is long. Just be patient, bite your tongue when you have to and like boar said hang in there. We're all thinking of you and your mom. :happy1: :happy1:
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Hope it went well. Thinkin' of ya, bud. Don't envy the spot you're in. :sad:
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so mom wont be coming home today. something in her blood work called bilirubin is to high. mayhaps tomorrow depending on another blood draw.
so i googled it.......and as i read it, depending on weather your an optimist or negative nellie it could be nothing........or something else.
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I'll go with good.. :happy1:
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Hoping it's good. :happy1:
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Yup sticking with good too.
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So I'm spending the night in the ER with my mom??
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say what!!!!
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What's up Glenn?
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What's happening Glenn?
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🙏 brother.
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I'm home now and her husband is there. Pretty certain it's something to do with the stents in her liver. She's weak and looks like hell.
But ER my :moon: when we checked in they said it be 4 hours. Then add the 5 ambulance that came in while we waited.
I ran into someone iu know, they'd been waiting since 1:30.
Just got word thru got called into a room to see a doc!
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Hospital ERs are so understaffed it is criminal.
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They are trying to save money so they can overpay the execs by about 10 times what they are worth.
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Covid burned out a lot of staff.
Draconian vaccination policies caused many healthcare workers to loose their jobs.
Hospitals try to screw over their nursing staff every chance they can. I am PRO nurses unions. :happy1:
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Steve-O...i'm PRO any union!!!!!! :happy1: :sleazy:
at 4 am i got a text from my stepdad....he was finally at moms house. and she was finally in a room. couple bags of fluids, a bag of meds and a CT scan. stents are plugged again. they were replaced a month ago. supposed to last 6 months, last time lasted 4. this time 1. he said more tomorrow.
and she threw a fit and slammed the U to her primary last week when she had bloodwork done......more today i guess!!!!
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oh boy....
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i went tdown to visit in the hopes of getting to hear what the plan was. i lucked out as a surgeon stopped by. they seen her gall bladder was agitated, swollen, but not infected. within 45 minutes they hauled her away and where going to put a stent in her gall bladder. they figure letting it drain away would solve the problem. her other stents seem to be fine!!!!
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sure hope that is it for her!!!!
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I hope so too. It's no fun mailing stuff to you when bad things are happening. :doah:
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I hope that is it too. Surprised they don't just remove the gal bladder if it is causing trouble.
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I hope that is it too. Surprised they don't just remove the gal bladder if it is causing trouble.
Kinda what I was thinking. Best wishes for your Mom and hang in there Glen
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the surgeon that came in and talked to us said there would be unneccessary drawbacks from removing it at this point. they said the procedure went really well and liked the results.
since there the experts in the field i gotta go with what they think. :scratch:
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yuppers and good to hear!!
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Good to hear! :happy1:
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My brother is back here and at the hospital. He called and said mom has a blood infection. WTF next? :doofus: per my brother she is now dealing with infectious disease Dr.
Game plan is meds for the next 14 days every 8 hours and when some type of room opens up in paynseville that's where she will go.
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When it rains it pours sometimes. Know that we're thinking about her and you as part of the family here. :happy1:
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Hang in there our friend. Keep us posted. Good thoughts coming your way.
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ouch Glenn...
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Sorry to hear that. It is scary how quickly singular issues can multiply - especially with older people. Longer recovery too.
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Wow. Like Dotch said. Seems when it rains it pours. Hoping for the best for your Mom and Smurfette!!!
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went to see mom yesterday afternoon. guess these rooms are called swing rooms. she's all settled in and is doing good. its nothing more then a plain hospital room :scratch: :scratch:
talking with my brother yesterday we came to the conclusion this gall bladder thing and blood infection is maybe a direct result of the stents in her liver. she waits until she is so sick, stents blocked, and in dire need of medical help these fluids seep into her body and blood stream. anyway thats what we think.
brother had a long talk with her also about her eating habits........i've tried......she's not eating anything worth a sh!t and is weak. hopefully she listens and the medical team stresses it!!!!!
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You and your brother are most likely right on. Hopefully she listens.
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Yup, hope they get her on the right page glenn. We have some of the same issues here with the wife. What's up with that? :scratch:
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Yup, hope they get her on the right page glenn. We have some of the same issues here with the wife. What's up with that? :scratch:
yep :happy1: we hope so too....but alot of it is up to her.......and she's pretty damn stubborn at times.....now i know where my brother gets it from!!!!!! :nerd: :nerd:
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went to see Mom yesterday. getting stronger and looks pretty good!!!! BUT, she's already complaining about her accomodations!!!! :surrender: we knoew it would be just a matter of time.
she was kinda napping when i got there. so i had a chance to talk to the nurse attending to her. she is eating a bit better. i told her my concerns about her eating, didnt take long and a dietitian showed up. there seems to be some issues with where her stents are. she was getting mushy food, so hopefully that gets taken care of. oh, and that dietitian was pretty damn cute to :sleazy: i noticed a walker in her room but the nurse said she's not inclined to want to use it, when i asked mom about it she said she doesnt think she is allowed to go out on her own. :doofus:
its still progress!! guess her plan is to go home wed when her husband gets there to shower and putz, then thurs to go to some church function. so she will get out and about a bit!!!!!! :happy1:
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good for her!!! :happy1:
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good for her!!! :happy1:
i called my brother last night to let him know...........so, he tells me i went up and started trouble again!!!!!!!! :sleazy: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
at least now she might get something other then 4th stage baby food!!!!!!! :happy1:
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oh boy.....
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You gotta work really hard to be an advocate for your loved ones when they are in hospital. The staff is well intentioned, but so much of the health care system is stacked against patients, where they apply cookie-cutter treatments as often as they can.
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oh boy.....
:rotflmao: he calls it trouble..........i was concerned about her diet since i see her more. eating pudding and jello dont cut it for keeping your stamina and strength up. and i was simply pointing that out while she is in a place that can help her. and i stressed that to the staff there she needs to be kept being told to eat better!!!!!
she did tell me she had 3 nurses that were really good to her!!!!!!!
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You gotta work really hard to be an advocate for your loved ones when they are in hospital. The staff is well intentioned, but so much of the health care system is stacked against patients, where they apply cookie-cutter treatments as often as they can.
:happy1: the paynseville hospital is alot smaller then st cloud and more personable and not near as busy. it sure didnt take long to hace that dietition show up!!!!!!
they were under the impression mom had stents in her esophagus is why she was getting mushy food. hell they wouldnt even let her have toast because of it!!! :crazy:
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Mon is doing good out Thursday.
Best news NO MORE masks in centra care system!
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good to hear!! :happy1:
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well i spent another good portion of the day in ER again. kinda sad when you start getting to know the same doctors and nurses there!!!!! :pouty:
apparently mom called at 12 30 last night never heard the phone. went up to her house and needed to get the extra key to get in. long story short i ended up calling 911. she was taken by ambulance to ER.
she is in an ICU unit. after i got home got a call from the ICU doctor. he isnt very confident with all the things working against her she will come out of this!!!!!
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That’s not good. Good luck, Glenn. Better times are comin’.
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Wishin you some good luck Glenn!!
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Thanks, deep down I knew we'd be at this point sooner than later.
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Was 10 years ago I lost my Mom. Was a crappy year, full of ups & downs, with false promises of hope only to be dashed in the end. 2023 has contained a lot of parallels. Wish only the best for you and your Mom glenn.
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my best to ya all Glenn....
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Tough time. Best to you Glenn. :pouty:
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Thanks guys means a lot to me. Brother is coming back from Wisconsin today to. All the kids know. Guess mom told the nurses she didn't want anyone for visitors. They went anyway and seemed things turned out fine
Off to the ER soon. I need to be there when the docs come in.
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Thinking about your mother and you Glenn. I hope all turns out ok however it ends up.
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:pouty: It's never easy, stay strong & hopin for the best.
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You gotta work really hard to be an advocate for your loved ones when they are in hospital.
Ain't that the truth.
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Hoping for the best for your Mom and you Glenn!
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Stay positive bud. We’re all thinking of you and your mom.
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Had a discussion with oncology. Switching to pain management now. Just had the priest in and gave Mom last rights . Tomorrow they'll stop the meds she's on and hear towards comfort and pain.
This suxs.
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yes it does, sorry to hear that... best to you all....
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Oh man Glenn, you hang in there and take care of yourself.
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Not good glenn. Wasn't a good day here either but I remember all too well how that goes and wouldn't trade with you. Hang in there bud.
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The cycle of life can really sucks!! Feel for you Glenn.
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The cycle of life can really sucks!! Feel for you Glenn.
Yea been kinda tough 3 years for her. Especially the last 6 months. They said she has caricanoma cancer a really bad heart valve, not a candidate for surgery either.also has cetif infection.
She is in 4 antibiotics for the infection. I blood pressure med to keep it elevated. I watched them change the blood pressure med, it dropped like a rock
And nothing they can do for the real problems.
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Please remember, Glenn, y'er not waiting for her to die... You're waiting with her 'til she meets Jesus.
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Well said Steve.
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Please remember, Glenn, y'er not waiting for her to die... You're waiting with her 'til she meets Jesus.
in her mind yes, but sorry bud not a religious person! :confused:
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Please remember, Glenn, y'er not waiting for her to die... You're waiting with her 'til she meets Jesus.
in her mind yes, but sorry bud not a religious person! :confused:
but you are still helping her with her journey Glenn...
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with regrets i am telling you that Mom"s 3 year battle is over. she passed away this morning about 5;05 am. it was a long tough 24 hours watching her be non responsive and struggling. we made most if not all the arraingements with the funeral home this morning. tomorrow brother and i are going to try and make some sense of everything else. kinda mind boggling. :doofus: :crazy:
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Very sorry to hear that, Glenn.
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From what you had posted earlier, was afraid this was what I would read sooner than later. My deepest sympathy, buddy. 🙏
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Always a tough loss. :pouty:
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Glenn, sorry for your loss, it’s alway tough to lose a parent.
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So sorry to hear that Glenn. She went fast once in the hospital and that is a good thing for her and everyone else. Still hurts and I will be thinking of you my friend. RIP Mom.
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as said sure sorry for your loss Glenn, all of ya...
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I know how you feel Glenn it's only been a little over a year for me. I hope you can get some solace knowing her suffering is over.
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Thanks guys, it was 20 years ago tomorrow I lost my dad!! Crazy
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Sorry for your loss Glenn!!
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Thoughts & prayers Glenn.
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My sympathy and prayers to you and your family, Glenn.
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So sorry for you lose glen.
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Sad to hear about your mom, glenn. A hard time for sure, thoughts & prayers sent.
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Sorry to hear about your Mom Glenn. These times are never easy.
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My deepest sympathies Glenn. Sorry for the loss of your Mom.
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thanks comforting to know you guys got my back. today i'm going tup to moms and my brother what to do with her finances, and i are going to try and figure out her finances and what to do with her other stuff!!!!!! doesnt seem right. tomorrow we have an appt to talk to a realtor what options we have!!!!!!! :pouty:
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Just seen the sad news with your mom. Thoughts and prayers headed your way.
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Started going through her stuff today. My brain is fried. :confused: it's bazaar all the stuff she has, that's just banking stuff from as far back as 2004. Did manage to get rid of crap but doesn't look like it! :crazy: :doofus:
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tomorrow afternoon is mom's wake, wed the funeral. she was cremated by request. not sure how i'm going to react. i've been to cremation services and i dont really get that sense of closure?????
i know why she chose that, she watched all these people walk by and look at day, and she wanted no part of that!!!!!! hell she absolutely wanted no part of me calling 911, she was afraid people intown would see that at her house and start gossiping. i said the hell with them i need to do what i got to!!!!!
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Yeah, its funny how easy it is for us to get caught up in appearances and be affected by gossip - I think especially folks from that generation - but we all fall into that trap now and again.
I agree with cremation not being the same. I carried my dad's cremated remains out of the church in a small box and it seemed like we missed a step.
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The grandkids asked I make grasshoppers in honor of grandma. Kind of a tradition in our family at holidays. :happy1:
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haven't had a grass hopper in many years... my folks liked them too!!! :rotflmao: :happy1:
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Same here. They always had a bottle of Creme de Menthe around.
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And when mom ordered one at a restaurant, they'd always give you the extras in a little side glass, which the kids would get to split. :angel:
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Well mom is now resting next to dad. Talk about a mixed bag of emotions. UFFDA!!
Now to finish all the rest of the things that goes along with it :pouty:
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Hang in there Glenn. Things seem to be progressing smoothly. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
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Hang in there Glenn. Things seem to be progressing smoothly. :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:
naw :pouty: I just realized I gotta find a new barber! :confused: :rotflmao:
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It’ll take a while but you’ll get through it.
Stay positive, Glenn. Ive got dog clippers if that will help.
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It’ll take a while but you’ll get through it.
Stay positive, Glenn. Ive got dog clippers if that will help.
:rotflmao: :tut:
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something we learned in this process, so anyone that has hearing aides of a recently passed on relative. you need to check out with the supplier.
mom just bought new hearing aides. $6000.00 worth. there not even 45 days old. when my brother called them they werent real receptive in returning them. we just wanted to know what to do with them.
after my brother did a little google search he found a state statute regarding them. it stated within 45 days you could return them and get refunded all but $250.00. when he called back the gal made the comment she wasnt aware of that earlier in the morning. we are claiming :bs:, we think they know this but unless you push the issue there told not to tell!!!!!!! :confused: :tut:
my thoughts are this could bewith any possible large purchase within a short time of a death!!!!!
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kinda an update on things. it looks like things are wrapping up here pretty soon. had a probate hearing yesterday and everything was approved. brother found out via stearns county website. waiting to hear from the attorney.
there was a claim by centracare............for $35,000.00 for care. when my brother called it was down to $47.00. we are dealing with moms car.......schweiters offered $8500.00 for it, its worth more so we may sell it ourselves.
there are a few things we want out of the house yet, mainly my brother. then the auctioneer comes and does his thing. the house is already sold as soon as we official word from the attorney. we wont even need a dumpster, the buyer said he'd deal with it.
overall i'm glad we are this far, still kinda sucks knowing we wont be able to go home soon, but it was getting more depressing every time i had to go there.
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you guys done good... enough said...
what kind of car??
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Hang in there Glenn. I wondered what kind of car too?
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Chevy Equinox with 77000 miles. were asking $12,000 for it. think its a 2008??????????????/
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good car! might be strong money but someone should snap it up for the low mileage!!! good luck!!!
if it is blue, keep it!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
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good car! might be strong money but someone should snap it up for the low mileage!!! good luck!!!
if it is blue, keep it!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1:
not according to BB!!!!!!!!!
naw i have no use for a small vehicle like that. and its black! :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Good to hear things are working out for you. Estates can get real messy and complicated.
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It was pretty cut and dried. And it's only my brother and I and we've really had no issues.
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got a text from my brother yesterday.......ever since he did some google search on moms car several dealerships have been relentless after him. worst one seems to be Ryan's from Monticello. he finally told them $12,400.00 final offer hoping it puts an end to it.
i did that once when i was looking.......never again............they just dont leave you alone!!!! for me it was gillelands in st cloud!
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Those used car salesmen go on to become Gopher football coaches... :whistling: :coffee:
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Those used car salesmen go on to become Gopher football coaches... :whistling: :coffee:
...just sayin'
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for sure!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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:pouty: :rotflmao: :surrender:
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:crazy: :pouty: i need to chill out but this probate stuff is strange. the hearing was last friday, my brother had to call the attorney today to see what the hello was happening. so, we are good with the auction service, lawyer needs to send him some forms to set up an "estate account" all money not yet distributed needs to go to that account, the sale of the house, and auction needs to go in there until "everything is settled"?? whatever that means!
the realtor needs to send the lawyer paperwork for the house sale...........just seems like running up the lawyer bill to me!!!!!
i dont remember all this when my inlaws passed away, but i wasnt that involved!!!!
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We kept Mom's out of probate by having a TODD, or Transfer On Death Deed, drawn up long before anything happened.
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That's smart gunner! I thought everything was in a trust Glenn, or was that just the cabin?
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That's smart gunner! I thought everything was in a trust Glenn, or was that just the cabin?
just the cabin.
never heard of that Gunner???????
in talking to my brother after the fact, he seems to think it wont take much to get things settled.......just some time. he expects to have it down by years end including the new estate account. guess its a matter of doting the I's and crossing the T's!!
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As long as there was just the 3 of us & we were in agreement on what should happen the lawyer told us that was the way to go. The total amount that the estate was worth had to be under a certain amount too. :scratch: I think we were told that was $1.5 million.
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That's what the attorney told us regarding taxes, particularly inheritance tax.
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We kept Mom's out of probate by having a TODD, or Transfer On Death Deed, drawn up long before anything happened.
I need to look into that for myself... thanks!!!!!
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Our neighbor across the street passed away recently. When she did her estate planning, the attorney talked her into writing a will instead of putting everything into a trust and/or use a TODD. Her survivors found out - despite having a will - they still need to go thru probate court. Effective trust planning can avoid that.
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like i posted earlier, i've never hear about this TODD thing before....something to think about for sure!!!!!
even our attorney said moms stuff was pretty cut and dried, but with the will the probate process is to make sure any estate doesnt have someone coming back and sayin they owed them a bunch of money.
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This is a copy of a post I made a couple years ago. Short memories I suppose. My suggestion is to take action sooner than later because it's easy to put things off until too late.
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...... at the land since Friday and see a few had questions regarding the three document everyone should ............ add a little regarding POA's. A POA can be for one financial thing (closing maybe) all financial ............ or something like your health care. If you do one make sure it covers all that you want. A POA ............ a "durable" clause automatically is no longer in effect if the person who granted it becomes ............ , no public notices. Note: a normal trust will contain a will and a pour over will which moves ............ up successor trusts for all who stand to receive money or property. This protects this inherited ............ 's etc as the pass to the designated beneficiary upon death of the account holder. One thing that ............ mentioning because it also avoids the dreaded "Probate" ............ a simple "Transfer on Death Deed" or "Beneficiary Deed". This is a ............ two page document available on line which you simple list the property (your ............ for doing this. This avoids probate and the person or persons listed on this recorded document ............ as to how things get divided etc. No need for a "Transfer on Death Deed" for my house as it's owned by the ............ . Anyone who owns a house should make that a very STRONG ............ into, prepare and record a "BENEFICARY OR TOD DEED" as soon as possible. This can be revoked or ............ and will save your heirs untold time, effort and money when the time comes. Let me know if anyone ............ has recorded a TOD or Beneficiary Deed or even heard or read about it. ......
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Short memory is right!! :confused: :rotflmao:
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The wife and I have done nothing to prepare. We talk about it but have done nothing.
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But do you 2 have kids lps? I don't recall you talking much about any.
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My wife has 2 adult kids from a previous marriage. 1 grandson who comes to stay with us a couple of times a year. Great kid. I have a Godson who is adult now. Need to get things on paper just in case something happens to one or both of us.
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That is something we should do also. Not getting any younger.
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talked to my brother yesterday, things are moving fast. looks like by Oct 6 th it'll be a done deal. auctioneer is coming Tuesday and we need to turn in moms house keys by that 6th date.
going up to put moms car on the lot for sale this morning. after talking to him..........it really hit me. in 2 weeks we wont ever be able to go back into the house where we both grew up. it'll hit me harder next week i'd assume!!!!!! :pouty:
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I reckon it will, and I ain't got no words that will make those feelings go away. You just have to have them and try to let them fade as they will.
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I reckon it will, and I ain't got no words that will make those feelings go away. You just have to have them and try to let them fade as they will.
:happy1: thanks SteveO :happy1: i'm sure they will. just need to move on. but it wont stop me from driving by to see what there doing with the place.....if mom would approve!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
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who did ya get to sell her car???
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who did ya get to sell her car???
i'm going up later to put it out for sale in the lot. asking $12,000.00. we may or may not settle for 10,000. thats gonna be bottom line. IF we dont sell it, sounds like my brother may buy it.
we've done some looking, car dealerships for that same vehicle are asking $15,000.00.
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I still go out of my way to see my dad's home place in S. Dakota whenever I'm driving thru on I-90. Some of the best times of my life were trips to visit grandpa and grandma.
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Glenn, I am happy for you that the estate is going pretty well. We are having the opposite experience with my dear mother's estate. Mom passed on June 4 of 22. All it takes is one family member to cause a lot of problems. If she happens to be an attorney you can multiply the problems by at least 10. My brother, my other sister, and I are all on the same page. I would have never thought this would happen. GREED is a nasty thing.
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so very true roony!!! seen it first hand too.. I wasn't part of it but it did bust up some of the family... greed :puke:
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Glenn, I am happy for you that the estate is going pretty well. We are having the opposite experience with my dear mother's estate. Mom passed on June 4 of 22. All it takes is one family member to cause a lot of problems. If she happens to be an attorney you can multiply the problems by at least 10. My brother, my other sister, and I are all on the same page. I would have never thought this would happen. GREED is a nasty thing.
damn Roony i feel for you. brother and i have always got along for the most part. good thing he's 5 hours away!!! :evil: :rotflmao: but seriously we've had some practice with having the cabin basiclly under our control for 3 years.
from him today........... all paperwork for the house is done and with the title company.
paperwork for probate should be done, oh and
the friggin attorney wants another $2500.00. :confused: what a sham.....pretty sure i'm going to look into this TODD thing soon!!!!!!
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so very true roony!!! seen it first hand too.. I wasn't part of it but it did bust up some of the family... greed :puke:
that sucks.......Moms will was pretty clear.........split evenly between brother and myself. and anything we wanted from moms house was pretty much agreed to, if he wanted something fine, same with me. first it was whatever made the cabin better!!!!
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Here is a great Q&A regarding the Minnesota Transfer O Death Deed or Beneficiary Deed. One thing it doesn't mention is you can print and complete the Minnesota simple one page (two sided) form and file it in the County court house. The filing fee is around $42.00.
What is a Minnesota transfer-on-death (TOD) deed?
A Minnesota transfer-on-death deed—often shortened to TOD deed—is a written legal document used to transfer Minnesota real estate to one or more beneficiaries, or grantees, named in the deed. The transfer happens on the owner’s death without the need for probate. The Minnesota legislature authorized Minnesota TOD deeds in 2008.1
What is the purpose of a Minnesota TOD deed?
The Minnesota TOD deed form is designed to avoid probate at death without giving up control of the property during life. An owner who signs a Minnesota TOD deed form controls the property until death. The owner may use the property, sell or mortgage it, or change beneficiaries anytime without telling the beneficiaries named in the deed. Upon the owner’s death, the property passes to the named beneficiaries outside the probate process.
A Minnesota TOD deed serves the same purpose as a living trust, but the TOD deed is less complicated (and much less expensive) than a living trust. State transfer-on-death deed laws were designed to provide a simpler and more cost-effective alternative to living trusts.
What is the benefit of avoiding probate?
Probate is a legal process that requires someone—usually an attorney—to file a sequence of documents with the court and have them approved by a judge. Beyond the cost and work involved, these documents make the deceased owner’s financial affairs a matter of public record. Minnesota property owners use TOD deeds to prevent this hassle, expense, and loss of privacy.
What types of property can be transferred using a Minnesota TOD deed?
A Minnesota TOD can be used only to transfer an interest in real estate (real property). The types of real property it can transfer extend beyond outright ownership and include
a mortgage, a deed of trust, a security interest in, or a security pledge of, an interest in real property, including the rights to payments of the indebtedness secured by the security instrument, a judgment, a tax lien, both the seller’s and purchaser’s interest in a contract for deed, land contract, purchase agreement, or earnest money contract for the sale and purchase of real property, including the rights to payments under such contracts, or any other lien on, or interest in, real property.2
But the deed must describe Minnesota real estate or legal documents related to Minnesota real estate. A Minnesota TOD deed cannot be used to transfer cars or other vehicles, nor can it be used to transfer real estate located in other states.
What is the effect of a Minnesota TOD deed while the owner is alive?
A Minnesota TOD deed is designed to take effect only with the death of the owner.3 It has little effect during the owner’s life. An owner who signs a Minnesota TOD deed form may sell, mortgage, or otherwise deal with the property without involving the beneficiaries named in the deed.
Can the owner sell the property after recording a TOD deed?
Yes. If the owner sells the property after recording a TOD deed that includes the property, no transfer occurs at the owner’s death.4 A lifetime sale revokes, or cancels, the TOD deed.
Is a Minnesota TOD deed revocable?
Yes. A Minnesota TOD deed can be revoked at any time by the owner who makes the deed.5 If there are multiple owners, any owner may revoke the deed.6. A revocation revokes the transfer-on-death deed in its entirety.7 A revocation is effective only if it is recorded in a county where the property is located before the death of the owner.8
Instead of filing a formal revocation, an owner may also revoke the TOD deed by transferring the property to someone else9 or by recording a new TOD deed to replace the earlier one.10
Because a Minnesota TOD deed removes the property from the owner’s probate estate, it cannot be revoked by directions in the owner’s will.11 If the will contains conflicting provisions regarding the transfer of property described in a valid TOD deed, the will has no effect, and the TOD deed will determine who receives the property.
What is the effect of a Minnesota TOD deed when the owner dies?
Upon the death of an owner—or, if multiple owners sign the TOD deed, upon the death of the last owner to die—the TOD deed transfers the property to the named beneficiaries.12 To show the transfer in the land records, the beneficiaries may file a survivorship affidavit and death certificate in the land records, along with a Transfer on Death Deed Application for a Medical Assistance Clearance Certificate (DHS-5893). These documents are not complex, and they inform third parties that the property has been transferred under the TOD deed.
Can a Minnesota TOD deed leave property to multiple beneficiaries?
Yes. A Minnesota TOD deed may name multiple beneficiaries to take title as joint tenants, tenants in common, or any other form of ownership or tenancy valid under Minnesota law.13
Can joint owners sign a Minnesota TOD deed?
Yes. Joint owners may sign a single Minnesota TOD deed to transfer Minnesota real estate. If the owners hold title as joint tenants (with a right of survivorship), the deed takes effect only after the last surviving owner dies.14 This rule allows a married couple to create a single TOD deed that transfers property to children after the second spouse dies.
Must a non-owner spouse sign a Minnesota TOD deed?
Minnesota law generally requires both spouses to sign a deed that transfers a personal home (homestead), even if only one spouse is listed as an owner of the property.15 This rule applies equally to Minnesota TOD deeds.16 Once a non-owner spouse signs the TOD deed, that spouse no longer has or can claim any legal rights or other marital rights to the property.
What happens if the beneficiary named in a Minnesota TOD deed dies before the owner?
A Minnesota TOD deed is subject to the survivorship rules that apply when transfers take effect at death.17 Under these rules, a TOD deed beneficiary inherits only if the beneficiary outlives the deceased owner by at least 120 hours.18 If the beneficiary does not outlive the owner by that amount of time, the transfer to the beneficiary lapses, or fails.
If the beneficiary who dies before the owner is a blood relative (the owner’s grandparent or a descendant of the owner’s grandparent), that beneficiary’s living descendants will inherit his or her property rights.19 If no one exists in that class—or if the TOD deed transfers property to a trust that has been revoked or to an entity that no longer exists, no transfer happens, and the transfer-on-death deed is void.20 To avoid the lapse risk, the deed may name one or more alternate (contingent) beneficiaries and describe what must happen for them to inherit the property.21
Must the owner notify the beneficiaries of the Minnesota TOD deed?
No. A beneficiary’s signature, consent, or agreement under a transfer-on-death deed is not required for any purpose during the owner’s lifetime. The beneficiary does not have to know about a transfer-on-death deed or receive a copy of it.22
Can a Minnesota TOD deed be used when the property is mortgaged?
Yes. A beneficiary who inherits property under a Minnesota TOD deed takes the property subject to any mortgage or deed of trust on it.23 As long as the beneficiary is related to the owner, the TOD deed should not affect the existing mortgage.24
Must a Minnesota TOD deed be recorded?
Yes. A transfer-on-death deed has no effect until it is recorded in the county wherep the real property is located.25 The recording process for a TOD deed differs from the process for other types of Minnesota deeds in two ways:
It requires no certification by the county auditor for transfer of ownership and current and delinquent taxes.
The transfer-on-death deed does not have to include a certificate of real estate value.26
Minnesota is one of only a handful of states that maintains a Torrens system that requires registration. (Even within Minnesota, it is not widely used.) If any part of the property described in the transfer-on-death deed is registered property, the deed may be recorded only if one of the owners signing it is listed on the registered title.27 The registrar of titles does not have to certify or approve a transfer-on-death deed before recording it in the Office of the Registrar of Titles.
Can an agent sign a Minnesota TOD deed under a power of attorney?
Yes. A Minnesota transfer-on-death deed may be signed by an appointed attorney-in-fact, or agent, as long as a power of attorney gives that person the authority to sign deeds.28
What are the requirements for a Minnesota TOD deed?
A Minnesota TOD deed must meet all requirements of Minnesota law and be recorded in a county where at least a part of the real estate described in the deed is located before the owner’s death.29 Because Minnesota law differs from the laws of other states, the TOD deed must be prepared to meet that state’s specific requirements. The use of a fill-in-the-blank form that was not designed with Minnesota law in mind can result in an invalid deed or create title insurance issues.
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Just to show how simple the TODD for is in Minnesota, I printed it and took a picture of the front and back. It's one of the few simplest legal government forms around. **I WAS going to post the photo here but for some reason that option has been removed from this forum????
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DE, I shake your hand for posting that. The wife and I will both read it. Like I said we have done nothing.
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Auctioneers just left. 3 hours and 20 minutes to clear out anything of value in the house garage and big shed