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Offline Lee Borgersen

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Fishing Licenses Could Be Gone On Thursday.
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The government shutdown and 4th of July weekend will run right into each other this year which could mean trouble for those who would be picking up their fishing licenses at the last minute.  :banghead:

"It is required for anybody wanting to fish any of the waters in Minnesota," said Jean Madsen, Customer Service Supervisor of Gander Mountain in Duluth.

If the government does shutdown this Friday there will be no state employees to process your fishing license request. That's trouble for one of the biggest fishing weekends of the year. Fishing Associate Heath Steblay says that fishing licenses won't be had after Thursday. :taz:

"Fishing licenses fall under that area and it's important that people are going to get their licenses and get that taken care of before this holiday weekend."

Wisconsin residents Gary and Theresa Kauther, who know little about the impending Minnesota Government freeze, had a trip planned in Minnesota. By luck they got their fishing licenses in the knick of time.

"Well this was pretty much a last minute venture for us. It's my weekend. I get Thursdays and Wednesdays off so we thought this might be our last chance to get out of town for a couple days."

"But I just didn't think that we wouldn't be able to buy fishing licenses and if we packed up and came all the way up here in anticipation to take a weekend and go fishing and enjoy our little vacation and wouldn't be able to buy licenses that would have put a huge hinder on our vacation."

But beware, just because the DNR may not be able to issue licenses, doesn't mean they won't be out patrolling the waters as Madsen tells us.

"Conservation  :police: officers still will be patrolling. I don't know if they'll be issuing. I do know they are still going to be doing their job. They have not been affected."

No one knows if the government is going to shut down but just to be sure the DNR is encouraging everyone who may want to fish in the next few weeks to get their license now before it's too late.  :censored:

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Me and Borgie just found out this morning  :taz: :doah:. So, we got on line licenses. What a joke. All folks with reservations could be screwed when they arrive and cant fish :fishing2:. State parks all closed to. Wayside rest areas all closed. On and on :puke:

This may get resolved yet but, who can gamble on plans made all for nothing :moon:
« Last Edit: June 06/29/11, 01:16:15 PM by Lee Borgersen »
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What a mess! :doah: I may just have to send our X Governor Rob Blagojevich up there to straighten things out. :whistling:   
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What a mess! :doah: I may just have to send our X Governor Rob Blagojevich up there to straighten things out. :whistling:   
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: please do, something needs to be done to change the tide!!!!! :bonk: :banghead:
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Will their be any DNR officers to enforce the law any way?
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Just went out to the DNR site and it can't find it.  Either it's swamped or it's part of the shut down. ;D

Seriously, there has to be an attorney out there that will pursue a suit to limit the taxes we pay to only the equivalent budget percentage of the the services that stay open.  I want a tax refund at the end of the year!   :censored:

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I was just at Gander and they said something about the DNR shutting down at 4pm today.

I was there to get my Fall Turkey Lottery and it was PACKED, I waited about 20 minutes and there were 4 or 5 clerks working on licenses.  I guess alot of people wanted their fishing licenses before the state shuts down and before the 4th weekend.

But if the government shuts down, so does the DNR.... so in theory, do you really need a license if they arent going to be out?!?!?   :scratch:  Im not sure how this is going to work!

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well i guess everyone complaining saying the DNR does nothing with our money will find out now what they really do. and i do believe the CO's will still be working as well as state patrol. i know the state hospitals are open as well. anything that is "vital" which i believe law enforcement falls under that exception.
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As of midnight, June 30, the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources will be shutdown due to a state budget impasse
Frequently Asked Questions about the State Government Shutdown for DNR Customers
The 2011 legislative session ended without a budget agreement and unless an agreement is reached on June 30, large portions of state government will shutdown.

This shutdown will include the majority of the Department of Natural Resources, including the DNR's primary website resources. Please read the FAQ below and visit BeReadyMN.com for more shutdown-related information.

These questions and answers are intended to provide information for DNR employees and customers — citizens, regulated parties, grantees, local governments, and others — on DNR services affected by a state government shutdown.

 

1. What critical services will DNR continue during the shutdown?

We will continue to provide those services mandated by the Ramsey County court. The court has agreed with the Governor's recommendation to deem the following DNR Priority 1 and 2 services as critical to continue 'at a minimal level of staffing and operating expense' during shutdown:

Conservation law enforcement
Water treatment
Bison herd care
Hatchery maintenance and tree nursery care
Soudan mine maintenance
Pathology lab testing
Dam safety and operations
Dike-water control structure management
Incident command team, including disaster response coordination
Support for critical services
The DNR estimates that these functions will require 220-230 staff. Of those, 186 are conservation officers. These officers will be ensuring the safety and welfare of Minnesota citizens and DNR staff and the security of DNR property and facilities, in addition to serving in their natural-resource protection role.


No other DNR services are operating, including our state parks system and licensing and registration activities. The balance of our approximately 2,500 staff is laid off.


2. Am I still able to purchase a fishing license?

No. The sale of all fishing, hunting and trapping licenses, including online and telephone sales, will be suspended as of midnight, June 30. Likewise, no boat, ATV or other licenses will be sold.

All natural resource and license laws will remain in effect during a shutdown and will be enforced.

3. What are the implications for a shutdown to anglers?

Licensed anglers can continue to fish. All existing rules and regulations will be in force. A mid-season walleye fishing regulation adjustment on Lake Mille Lacs will be delayed or cancelled depending upon the length of the shutdown.

4. What about State Parks reservations and access to park facilities and camping?

During shutdown, the State Parks reservation system is suspended and all state parks and camping facilities are closed. The grounds are posted closed and buildings, restrooms and other facilities are locked.

5. Will day-use be permitted at state parks during a shutdown?

During shutdown, all facilities are locked, roads and campgrounds are closed and gated where possible. Water is shut off, and no services are available. We strongly advise the public not to enter the grounds of any state park during the shutdown. We are concerned about serious health, safety and security issues if visitors enter parks when there are no restroom facilities, water, and staff available. For example, 911 calls might not be possible due to lack of cell phone coverage.

6. What about state trails and public water accesses?

These areas will be maintained and do not have restroom facilities or water service, but are available for day use. Please be especially mindful of all safety guidelines.

7. Can I camp in forest campgrounds?

If there is a shutdown, facilities would be locked, roads and campgrounds would be closed and gated where possible, water would be shut off, and no services would be available. It would be possible, but not recommended, for day-use to continue at state parks during regular day-use hours.

8. Can I have a campfire?

Campfires are permitted, but please check with your county for more information.

9. What are the implications of a shutdown to hunters?

Licensed hunters can continue to hunt. All existing rules and regulations are in force. Wildlife Management Areas are open for use, but will not be maintained. Special hunts (such as the Camp Ripley archery hunt, state park hunts and mentored youth hunts) may not occur, depending upon the length of the shutdown. Applications for those special hunts may not be accepted, depending upon the length of the shutdown. Similarly, the availability of hunting information (2011 hunting regulations booklets and special hunt application information) will be delayed. Information on hunt application deadlines, hunt dates, and cancelled hunts (if necessary) will be available shortly after DNR staff return to work.

10. Who should be contacted to report a wildfire?

Citizens should report wildfires via the 911 emergency notification system.

11. Is open burning allowed?

Open burning and the open burning permit systems are suspended during the shutdown. The exceptions are the following counties that have the authority to issue county open burning permits: Anoka, Brown, Blue Earth, Carver, Chippewa, Clay, Cottonwood, Dakota, Faribault, Freeborn, Grant, Hennepin, Jackson, Lac qui Parle, Lincoln, Lyon, Martin, McLeod, Mower, Murray, Nicollet, Nobles, Norman, Pipestone, Ramsey, Redwood, Renville, Rice, Rock, Scott, Sibley, Steele, Stevens, Swift, Traverse, Waseca, Watonwan, Washington, Wilkin, and Yellow Medicine.

12. Will state contractors be permitted to continue work?

No. Unless the goods or services are necessary for critical activities or have been themselves deemed critical by the court, those under contract with the state for provision of goods or services are suspended from work.

13. Will the website be up?

No. Online applications and submittal systems will not be operating. Our social media sites will not be updated.

14. Will I be able to communicate with the DNR or its staff?

No. By the end of the working day June 30, Information Center services will be suspended. Voicemail will have out-of-office automatic replies and email service will be unavailable. Mail will not be sorted or delivered. Only those employees deemed critical will have full access to communications.

15. If I am a member of the media, who can I call at the DNR?

All DNR communications staff members are laid off and unavailable to take your calls. The best source of state government information during the shutdown is BeReadyMN.com.

16. What happens with public notice periods that extend into the shutdown?

Public notice periods that extend into the shutdown will not prematurely expire, nor will they automatically be extended. Citizens may still submit comments on permits or other issues on public notice via regular mail, and those comments will be received and reviewed by staff upon their return.
Anyone wishing to submit comments should still observe the published deadline. We may, after the shutdown ends, decide to extend a public comment period. In those cases, we will provide a notice of extension.

17. Can DNR volunteers continue to work?

No. Volunteer activities are suspended during the shutdown. The only exception is for citizen science monitors, who do independent data collection such as loon counting and precipitation recording.

Because no volunteers will be working, classes taught by volunteers, such as firearms safety classes, will not take place.

18. Will permits be processed?

No, work currently underway on processing permit applications has stopped. This applies to all mining and environmental permits issued by DNR..

19. What will happen to existing mining and environmental permits?

Existing permits to mine will continue. All groundwater use permits will continue. Surface water use permits for domestic water supply and power production will continue, but other surface water use permits are suspended. All public water and aquatic plant management permits are suspended. See the additional Frequently Asked Questions for the Division of Ecological and Water Resources, below, for more information about environmental permits

20. What critical services continue within the Division of Ecological and Water Resources?

Very few of these services have been deemed critical. Per the court order, the exceptions are water quality services; pathology lab services; response to a hazardous substance spill or a fish and wildlife kill; and response to a dam safety issue.

21. What will happen to permits that have been issued for work in public waters and aquatic plant management?

All public water and aquatic plant management permits are suspended, including permits for commercial mechanical plant control. If work has started under one of these permits, it is suspended for the duration of the shutdown. If a permit has been issued but work has not started, work may not begin until after the shutdown.

22. What will happen to water use permits?

All groundwater use permits will continue (this includes mine dewatering permits). All surface water use permits for first priority water use will continue. (First priority water use is described in Minnesota Statutes, section 103G.26, and includes domestic water supply and power production that meets contingency planning requirements in Minnesota Statutes, section 103G.285, subd. 6.) All surface water use permits that are not for first priority water use are suspended.

23. What about general permits?

General permits allow the public and local units of government to quickly get DNR authorization for certain types of projects that would otherwise require an individual public water or water use permit. Some general permits require DNR notification before work can begin, while others do not. During the shutdown, work may be done under general permits that do not require DNR notification. Work may not be done under a general permit if DNR notification is required and has not been obtained prior to the shutdown. Common general permits that require DNR notification include temporary water appropriations (general permit number 1997-0005) and flood damage repair projects (general permit number 2001-1172).

24. What will happen with projects undergoing environmental review?

Environmental review, including development of Environmental Impact Statements (EISs) and Environmental Assessment Worksheets, is discontinued during shutdown. Projects may be delayed as a result. DNR contractors who are working on EISs may be able to continue some work during the shutdown, but it would be limited.

25. Can timber still be harvested?

Timber harvesting cutting, skidding, and hauling is curtailed on state permits. The only exception is if wood has previously been cut and piled at a DNR-approved landing immediately adjacent to a state, county, or township road or state or national forest system road.

26. Can firewood be cut from state lands?

No.

27. Will state forests, roads, and trails remain open?

Generally yes. Forest roads and trails are open unless gated or posted closed. However, roads and trails are not being maintained during the shutdown. State forest lands are open for dispersed activities (e.g., bird watching, hiking). Please be especially mindful of all safety guidelines.

28. Who should be contacted to get professional forest management assistance?

DNR offices are closed and DNR foresters are not available to provide assistance to private landowners. Alternative contacts for professional forestry assistance are local Soil and Water Conservation districts, consulting foresters, and forest industry foresters.

29. Who do I call with questions about trees or forests?

Calls can be directed to Minnesota Extension offices, Soil and Water Conservation districts, and county forestry offices.

30. How long will it take to restart DNR services at the end of the shutdown?

That will vary according to the steps necessary to restart specific services. Some services will resume when employees are back on the job. Others could take several days after restart. It is also possible that some DNR services and facilities will be restored in phases.

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HEARD ON THE NEWS THIS MORNING THERE WILL BE A WAIVER FOR LICENSES ON LOW UNTIL THE STATE RE-OPENS. ANYONE HEARD FROM THE DNR ON THIS? I DONT SEE HOW A COUNTY CAN HAVE ANY SAY ON FISHING LICENSES.
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Yes you can not buy a LICENSES  but at the same time now the DNR are on the water but they are not asking for your LICENSES  they are checking your fish and you safe vest they are not fining you if you do not have a LICENSES,

But on the other hand the state shut down and we still have to pay state sale tax and I just when to their web-site and pay all the sale tax as that site seem to be running just fine!!! what a crock of  :censored: they can just make the rule to fit them  :bs: It time they all just get fire!!!!!

As this dose not  :help: the small business out with the high gas we had in the last few Mo/ and not this with the state shut down!!!! this state is loss $$$$$$ fast and who did you think will pay for it, stupid  stupid :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: