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Offline wildlifeminnesota

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If Minnesota Open wolf hunting?
Would you hunt them?         why would you?   If you would not hunt them?     Why not?


Offline Go Big Red!

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Would I?  Absolutely since they are one step below the food chain from us.  Think about it.  Hunting an animal of this magnitude, it's abilities to take down big game, and hearing stories of them not fearing humans (the hunter who was surrounded while field dressing his deer).  One of the ultimate killing machines in North America right next to the cougar.
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Offline MTCOMMER

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Yes, I figure I might only get this chance to hunt them and I think it would be an exciting hunt!  Plus, you never know if that wolve I kill would kill another hunters trophy whitetail or save a herd.  Granted, wolves usually eat young and weak deer which arent stud bucks, but you never know!  

So, YES I WOULD HUNT A WOLF!

Offline Cody Gruchow

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i would be one of the first in line! like already stated they are one step under us on the food chain. i mean people hunt lions in africa so why not wolves?

Offline mnnate

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Cody I would be right behind you in line to get my tags! If I thought yote hunting was a rush, how about a pack of wolves stalking your calls! :fudd:

Offline Big E

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Oh man would I hunt wolves. I would LOVE to single handedly put them back on the endangered spieces list where they belong. I forgot what state is was in but they had a wolf hunt and said as soon as 200 wolves were registered they would end the hunt....They had to end the hunt after only like 6 wolves were registered and the packs were pretty much non existent.....needless to say those were some smart hunters. I pray for the day I can legally shoot them in MN. I would bring back the glorious "Texas Heart Shot" then dedicate everyone of them to PETA and the socialists we have in office.
 Wolves don't just take down the young or the sick deer. These animals take down Buffalo, Moose, Elk, Horses, Caribou and been know to kill bear. A whitetail deer doesn't need to be young or injured for a wolf to kill it.
 ONE wolf on AVERAGE kills and eats 18 deer a yr.......DNR flew a helicopter over southern Cass county and spotted a pack of 22 wolves this yr. They had no record of this pack (therefore no radio callers for those of you in that area  :whistling:) and said the population is out of control. Think about it  22 wolves x 18 deer a piece = 396 dead deer and that's a average! :fudd:
 
Let the small bucks walk. Don't assume the neighbors will shoot them if you don't. If you shoot him what chance does that buck have to grow......ZERO!

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Think about it  22 wolves x 18 deer a piece = 396 dead deer and that's a average! :fudd:
 

And thats only 1 pack, They are saying there are in the 3,000 range in and around MN... Do the math!  I read a stat that 80% of a Wolves diet, in MN, is the White tail deer.  They are abundant and tasty! 
"The plan establishes a minimum population of 1,600 wolves to ensure the long-term survival of the wolf in Minnesota. The state's wolf population, estimated at fewer than 750 animals in the 1950s, has grown to the most recent estimate of 2,921. There will be no public hunting or trapping seasons for wolves for at least five years. The endangered species act requires the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to monitor wolves in Minnesota for five years after delisting to ensure that recovery continues."
http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/mammals/wolves/mgmt.html

Their plan is to have 1,600 wolves in MN, and there are 3,000 and have been for a few years now... The only way to knock that number down is to open up a season!  I guess according to the 'law' there wont be a hunt for another 5 years... Im thinking by then the population will be in the 4,000 range.... or maybe even more  :fudd:  :fudd:

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Thanks for the reminder of the glorious "Texas heart shot" Big E I cannot think of a better way to a wolf out of its misery.
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Offline wildlifeminnesota

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 There will be no public hunting or trapping seasons for wolves for at least five years. The endangered species act requires the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to monitor wolves in Minnesota for five years after delisting to ensure that recovery continues."


On August 28, 1998, the Minnesota wolf management roundtable reached
consensus on the following package of wolf management recommendations:
Wolf Population Management
Wolves in Minnesota will be allowed to expand statewide. Population management
measures, including public taking or other options, will be considered in the future
but not sooner than the 5-year post-delisting monitoring period of the US Fish and
Wildlife Service. If public taking is authorized by the legislature, the Department of
Natural Resources will prepare and publish a rule, with opportunity for full public
comment. Decisions on public taking will be based on sound data, including but not
limited to the “5-year census” and the results of non-lethal control research.
To assure continued survival of the wolf in Minnesota, the roundtable recommends
a minimum statewide population of 1,600 animals. This number is not a maximum
population goal. If the population falls under the recommended minimum,
appropriate management actions will be taken to address the cause of the
reduction and assure recovery to the minimum level in the shortest possible time.

This was dated back in 1998 I  :scratch: there five years have come and gone!!

Offline MTCOMMER

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There will be no public hunting or trapping seasons for wolves for at least five years. The endangered species act requires the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to monitor wolves in Minnesota for five years after delisting to ensure that recovery continues."


On August 28, 1998, the Minnesota wolf management roundtable reached
consensus on the following package of wolf management recommendations:
Wolf Population Management
Wolves in Minnesota will be allowed to expand statewide. Population management
measures, including public taking or other options, will be considered in the future
but not sooner than the 5-year post-delisting monitoring period of the US Fish and
Wildlife Service. If public taking is authorized by the legislature, the Department of
Natural Resources will prepare and publish a rule, with opportunity for full public
comment. Decisions on public taking will be based on sound data, including but not
limited to the “5-year census” and the results of non-lethal control research.
To assure continued survival of the wolf in Minnesota, the roundtable recommends
a minimum statewide population of 1,600 animals. This number is not a maximum
population goal. If the population falls under the recommended minimum,
appropriate management actions will be taken to address the cause of the
reduction and assure recovery to the minimum level in the shortest possible time.

This was dated back in 1998 I  :scratch: there five years have come and gone!!

Thats exactly what I wrote on the other wolf thread, they said 5 years back in 1998.... Hell, I should have been out hunting these suckers back in 2003!  I think this is the same 'sound data' that they use for global warming ;)
- so in other words even if the data shows that there are 10,000 wolves in MN, a 'wolf expert' can come in and say some BS about the popoulation and they will believe it! cause the 10,000 wolves data just isnt enough to open a season....  :bs:

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So far all the post there said they would. I would really like to here from some that are not for wolf hunting and why they  :scratch: that.

:scratch: you will see wolf hunting in Minnesota sooner then you  :scratch:.
Minnesota is now Watching this state Indio Montana Wyoming Wisconsin On how these state are doing in the wolf battle. Minnesota holds the most wolves in the lower 48 state. In one state. I also can see how people like wolfs they think of them like pets. But they are not pets. The DNR said that if your dog is chasing deer they will shot them on the spot. Wolf are wild dogs not pets. I  :scratch: if The wolf love want wolf in other state they can take some of are wolf from Minnesota and take them home and we will see how long they like wolf! If these state can over come the (wolf lover) you will see wolf hunting in Minnesota.

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Thats a great point wildlife... If you see someones PET chasing a deer you can legally shoot it during the correct time of year but a wolf... oh my...


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When Dogs chasing deer they kill just to kill.These are pet, Wolf will do the same thing. they are wild dogs. They will not shot a wolf but they will shot a dog. It the same thing!!!  :scratch:

Offline Moving2thecountry

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I don't think I would.  I consider hunting coyotes once in a while, but I usually decide not to.  I don't eat dogs. 

On the other hand, if I were a farmer with problem coyotes, I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a coyote. 

And if wolves were stalking little children waiting for school buses in rural Minnesota, I might also consider it, assuming it were legal.