Tribes not renewing leases on Leech lake

[LPS]

I just saw on CCO TV that the Leech Lake Band of Indians isn't renewing leases on at least 75 homes/cabins on the shores of Leech Lake.  200 was mentioned but not sure what that was about. It is to help house their homeless indians.  What a crock of you know what....  They said cabin/homeowners can sell to indians or move their buildings off the land.  I would rent a backhoe, crush it and walk away.  This indian thing is getting way out of control.  All due to our gutless politicians trying to be "nice" to all of the people.  Now they are sticking it up our you know what.  Time for some more emails to our politicians...   

[glenn57]

Yea LPS I heard that years ago. Think there is something going on similar to that in Winnie to.

[mike89]

what the h----  ????    give more away....

seems to me I heard some thing like that a long time ago too....

[Rebel SS]

O boy, more "diversity" crap. Pretty soon, we'll be the minorities with no money.......

[LPS]

So to me it looks like more MN Nice (MN stupid) coming back to bite us in the ass again.  Seems to happen every month.  I am an optimist but at times it seems like we have given everything away already to everyone that asked.....

[glenn57]

This is why I refuse to go to casinos. I also strongly believe if they wanna play the sovereign nations thing they stay on it and if they don't they get arrested. And no government money.

[Glenn_S]

The biggest issue is a gutless Governor...

[glenn57]

The biggest issue is a gutless Governor...

we have a BINGO!!! :bow:but then what would you expect from a guy with the name Glenn!!!

[Jerkbiat]

Yep, they are getting back at the white man. I think I would drop a match on the floor.

[Rebel SS]

  What they say.....

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[Rebel SS]

How they really feel....



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[Steve-o]

The bottom line is many renters built cabins and improved lake shore properties owned by someone else.  That isn't a very good investment decision regardless of who owns the land.  I don't know the duration of the various lease agreements, but you have to go in with eyes wide open.  To me this is business, not a race issue.

But I am insulted that the spin doctors - be they tribal or liberal media - expect me to swallow the line that leases are being terminated on prime lake shore property so houses can be built for homeless tribal members.  Yeah, right.  They want to live on the lake just like I want to live on the lake.  The only difference between me and them is that they own lake shore property and I don't.  Since they "love the land", I just hope they don't turn the property into junk yards.

If you want to protest our state government's casino concessions or get worked up about walleye fishery mismanagement, I'll be happy to grab my pitchfork and join in.

[glenn57]

sorry Steve-o.............i gotta disagree with ya on the race/business issue. i've met alot of leech lake natives, some of the nicest folks out there.....they coudnt give a rats behind about some of this stuff, then you got those that are in fact rubbing our nose in this treaty sheet!!!!!!

i've also seen what they've done to the government built houses they live it............ within a couple years it is a junkyard and looks like 

[Rebel SS]

"Prime lakeside property for rent. Call Dan Running Skunk 1 800 allmine."

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[Steve-o]

I guess all I'm saying is that if I leased my lake property, didn't need the money anymore - and wanted to live on the lake - I'd do the same thing.  This may or may not have anything to do with race (and it probably does), but it has just as much or more to do with economics.

I've seen the "homesteads" of the "first inhabitants" around Leech.  I know what they turn into.  It is a blight.

Anytime anybody gives something to someone who hasn't earned it, that thing usually gets squandered.  It is a shame that our society in general no longer recognizes this as a core axiom.  Hard work dedicated to the improvement of your life and those of your children used to be the backbone of the American experience.

[Rebel SS]

Hard work and pride in owning what you've earned flew out the window when all the whiners came on board. Things have changed a lot. I had a friend thru jr and sr high, that was native american (proper term) and came from a family of ten kids. Dad was a construction worker, Mom worked, and the oldest kids did. They had no money, clothes were all hand me downs, but the kids were in school everyday, and Dan and I graduated together. Saw him at our class reunion two years ago. He now owns a construction company. Growing up in the 60's and 70's, it was all about hard work and the "american dream". That was pounded into my head by my Dad. Not so much anymore. Times and peoples attitudes have drastically changed. I say we're getting lazier...and people sure whine and cry a lot more. Don't wanna hurt anyone's feelings, ya know.... that's half the problem, IMO.

[glenn57]

I guess all I'm saying is that if I leased my lake property, didn't need the money anymore - and wanted to live on the lake - I'd do the same thing.  This may or may not have anything to do with race (and it probably does), but it has just as much or more to do with economics.

I've seen the "homesteads" of the "first inhabitants" around Leech.  I know what they turn into.  It is a blight.

Anytime anybody gives something to someone who hasn't earned it, that thing usually gets squandered.  It is a shame that our society in general no longer recognizes this as a core axiom.  Hard work dedicated to the improvement of your life and those of your children used to be the backbone of the American experience.

i can agree wit dat!!!!!!!!!!

[Gunner55]

This is all over the news up here too. glenn, from what I understand almost all the land around Winnie is owned by the Federal government not the natives, hence vary few private places on the lake. I wonder how those leases read too.

[glenn57]

This is all over the news up here too. glenn, from what I understand almost all the land around Winnie is owned by the Federal government not the natives, hence vary few private places on the lake. I wonder how those leases read too.

yea you could be right. i knew though there was something about property on winnie????????????? i havent talked to this guy in years but his wife's family has a place 3 places down from highbanks, he was the one that gave me the history lesson. between highbanks and 3 birches public access!!!!! dont think there can be any additional places built on the lake if i remember right!!!!!

[Rebel SS]

Land ownership map...

https://nationalmap.gov/small_scale/printable/images/pdf/fedlands/MN.pdf

[Steve-o]

The numbers are interesting - if you believe MPR and Levi Brown, Environmental Director, Leech Lake Band of Ojibwe Division of Resource Management.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/10/12/leech-lake-band-retakes-minnesota-waterfront-land

"For decades, the tribe has leased nearly 350 small waterfront lots on Leech Lake, Cass Lake and a few others. Earlier this year, though, a new tribal administration voted not to renew the contracts.  Now, as those leases come up for renewal, the properties are reverting back to the tribe. This fall alone, 75 cabin owners will have to sell or move off the land.
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Phasing out the leases, [Brown said], will cost his department roughly $500,000 a year, about half his budget. He said it's worth the cost.
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Most of the property around Leech and Cass lakes was sold and developed long ago. The little that remained in tribal hands was leased to non-tribal members."

It is unclear to me whether the tribe will lose $500,000 in lease revenue because of the 75 lease terminations this fall or the total 350 water front properties.  Either way, I'm surprised that the number is only 350.  That is a very small number of properties scattered across two large lakes.  I wonder if there really are only 350 lake front properties or if more expiring leases will be discovered in the coming years to help solve the Ojibwe homeless crisis.

[LPS]

My wife and I went for a drive into Canada a couple of weeks ago.  We stopped at a Native history place and looked around.  A real nice native guy started telling us interesting things about his tribe and was showing me maps.  I listened.  They have signs up for 75 year leases on some of this land.  He said see how these bear rugs and mounts are missing some of their claws?  I said yes I wondered about that.  He said even in their area some of the natives don't want them doing the "corporate" thing such as leasing out the land and they protest that by actually destroying the tribes own stuff.  I thanked him for the talk and shook his hand.  We drove around some more and noticed on the rental cabins that they had in this nice area that all of the propane tanks and grills were all chained to the handrails on the steps.  Looked like new shiny chains and locks.  SO isn't that interesting????  AND how the hell do these protesting youngsters think they will survive when they don't have the income provided by these leases?  AS in who is going to build these houses on Leech for these tribe members that are homeless??  How are these previously homeless indians going to maintain these houses???  It is a crock of you know what.  The youngsters in the Leech area are the ones that want to start another uprising I think... 

[Rebel SS]

And more stuff to provide interesting reading.....


St. Croix Chippewa ready to grow hemp in Wisconsin

Oct 23, 2017 Updated 1 hr ago   (1)

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A Wisconsin tribe stated it  is set to grow hemp in hopes of extracting oil from the plant that could help treat seizures and other health problems, despite uncertainty over its legality.

The St. Croix Chippewa plan to begin production at the end of the month, the Wisconsin State Journal reported .

Parents of children who suffer seizures contend cannabidiol oil, a hemp extract, can help ease symptoms.

The oil doesn't cause a high because it contains much less THC, marijuana's active ingredient that creates the psychoactive effect, but it's illegal to produce or sell in Wisconsin. Republican Gov. Scott Walker, however, signed a bill in April that makes possession legal with a doctor's certification.

The St. Croix Chippewa argue that since the state has chosen to regulate the oil it can't enforce a production prohibition on tribal lands because of a federal law that limits how states can enforce criminal law on reservations.

Growing hemp to obtain the oil remains illegal in Wisconsin and the Legislature would have to change the law before the St. Croix Chippewa could legally cultivate the plant, Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel said Monday during a news conference that promoted the state's Drug Take Back Day.

Schimel, a Republican, pointed out that the Menominee tribe tried to grow hemp in 2015 and federal authorities destroyed the crop, costing the tribe millions of dollars.

"Right now the law really doesn't permit the production of marijuana to make CBD oil in Wisconsin," he said. "So they're going to want to take this very cautiously."

The Burnett County Board of Supervisors supports the tribe's plan, board chair Don Taylor said in a letter last week.

"Families need a safe, reliable distributor of cannabidiol and the tribe's willingness to serve in that capacity is absolutely critical right now," tribal council member Elmer Emery said.

The operation will provide jobs to a county with high unemployment rates, Emery said. The facility will initially employ about 15 workers.

The tribe plans to spend about $1.2 million on startup costs, said Jeff Cormell, the tribe's lawyer. Many tribes are considering growing hemp or marijuana to offset declines in casino revenue, he said.

"We're very excited about the opportunity to provide this medicine," Cormell said. "It's not just a business decision. It's about families, it's about health care."

Hemp can also be used to produce rope, building materials, body products, biodiesel and nutritional supplements.

[snow1]

Well I read about this a couple weeks ago,seems the non natives had it going on cheap all these years to the tune of $600/yr if I remember right,pretty dang cheap for lake front property,the tribe said that they(leech lake tribe) now have two casino's and trible members are coming back because of jobs available and want a place to live,so far 200 native request to  build on the rez and of course prime property,can't blame them,they own the land,trust land,the read went on and said if the leases were renewed the annual cost will jump by 10x.