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Author Topic: 2 inch vane or 3??  (Read 4740 times)

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Offline Cody Gruchow

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i have been thinking about this more and more recently. its the off season so i am thinking of trying 2 inch vanes now. is there much of a difference??

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Well, the larger the vane the more drag is applied to the back of your arrow.  There are many new vanes out there now a days.  Vanes like "Blazers" and "Twisters" claim they create as much drag because of there high profile.  They claim to steer a broadhead better.  I personally have shot just about every vane that's out there.  I deal with arrow tuning every single day.  And to be honest with you Cody.  There all about the same.  Some guys think certain vanes work better for their set-up.  The only way to find out is to try it and experience what each does for your arrow flight.  If you like what you have now better you can always switch back.  A feather can be a pain in the butt when it comes to weather proofing, but a feather will steer extremely well and they are faster than a vane by a couple f.p.s. up until about 30 yards.

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Offline Cody Gruchow

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but i shoot out of a whisker biscuit. wouldnt that mess up the feather fletching?

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Actually Cody, if your shooting a biscuit, the best fletching is a feather.  There is less resistance because the quills of a feather fold down.  It is a common misconception to believe a vane is better.  But a biscuit will ruin a vane just as fast as a feather.  The end of the quill will fray a bit but try pulling a vane, then a feather and you will see what I'm talking about.  Plus, if you have any kind of a form issue on a particular shot, a feather will be more forgiving going through the biscuit.

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Offline cva54

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Mn arch Here is 1 for you the I found this at the pro shop I deal with. Just a bit of back ground my bow drop away rest shoots over 250 fps running with a helical. What about stagering the vanes? Same drag more surface. Do the math on paper its great. Wouldnt that help at 60+ yards?
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Never tried it myself, but my thoughts are that you may get a "gentler" correction if the arrow isn't very straight coming out of the bow.That being said, A well tuned bow may show no perceivable difference, and in my experience, repeatable form is, in fact, the key to accuracy. Now I'm no rocket scientist, but wouldn't NASA already know about staggering fins?... I've never seen a rocket with that design employed. I would be concerned about stability as the arrow slows down, (i.e. long range shot) But, as I stated, never tried it myself.

I think the most rearward vane would have more leverage against the arrow than the most forward.
Also, the surface area of the vanes would, in fact, remain the same.

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Offline cva54

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Y yes it is tuned proprley it is a mathews paper tuned perfict and watched it on a slomo camra. It leaves the string with just a little drop but doesnt come close to the rest. I asked about that was told it was arrow flex (do U think that is right) think I am going to get 2 of them arrows made yes good arrows beman elite 400 and see what happens. Bummer I got to go shoot my bow I would rather go to work ya right.  fyi right now at 50Y and 60Y doing a 5" circel 40Y 3" 30Y on down I dont shoot more than 2 at the same spot.
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Offline Pegg

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I like shooting the blazer vanes. Never had any issues with them. I know a lot of people who use them. I shoot 4" feathers with my long and recurve bows. . Best thing to do is get some arrows and fletch them each way and see what you like best. That is what I did.
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I shot the blazers this year, and I was very happy with them. I don't believe I will ever shoot feathers again I liked them that much. They seemed to hold up quite well, especially in the rain.

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Offline Pegg

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Hey Cody

Not sure what I have left but if you would like a few blazer vanes to try I think I might have a few I can give you. 1 or 2 arrows worth. That way you don't have to buy them to find out if you like them or not.
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From my expierience last year I could never get a tight grouping and was about to get rid of the whisker biscuit but I meet a guy that is a pro for bowtech and he told me that I needed shorter fletching for the biscuit. They are stiffer and there is a lot less contact so less effect on the arrow. Well I switched up and he was right I use a 2in and I have a half dollar grouping at 20yrds. I shot 4 deer with my bow last year. I think it has to do with your poundage, rest and broadhead.
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I didn't notice any difference.
I use 4" vanes and I was curious about the Blazers myself so I fletched up a few arrows with the Blazers and shot those along side my 4" vanes. Like I said I didn't notice any difference,(plus I thought the looked really cool) but the confidence level just wasn't there and I felt it was effecting my comfort level while shooting. In the end it wasn't performance that effected my decision to stick with 4" vanes. There probably isn't much difference between them, if any at all, but it became more of a comfort/confidence issue for me and like they say "if ain't broke".......
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Offline Cody Gruchow

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well i bought half dozen of the 2inch and i really liked them alot.

Offline Pegg

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That is all I shoot with my compound bow. I can't shoot then with my recurve bow. I do really like them.
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Actually Cody, if your shooting a biscuit, the best fletching is a feather.  There is less resistance because the quills of a feather fold down.  It is a common misconception to believe a vane is better.  But a biscuit will ruin a vane just as fast as a feather.  The end of the quill will fray a bit but try pulling a vane, then a feather and you will see what I'm talking about.  Plus, if you have any kind of a form issue on a particular shot, a feather will be more forgiving going through the biscuit.

Matt
This really is not true. In the testing I have done the blazers held up better than any fletching through a biscuit. Feathers tend to wear out fast and get real noisy.
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drop rest ,drop rest , drop rest ! bought on etwo days ago and they are amazing!
i shoot carbon arrows with 4 inch fletchings, 100 gram target tips , they fly so nice throught the air !
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Drop away rests are really great. Which one did you get? I really like the limbdriver and the zero effect by muzzy.
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