long range shooting

[stevejedlenski]

im sure you have seen this happening on tv now for a while. the long range shots taken at game, most notibly cyotes. i was wondering what everyones thoughts were on this. i know that some people practice for many years but do you think it is ethical. and what do you think this does for the hunters image. i think its about achieving the goal of killing something from a 1000 yards more than about the hunt itself. it almost takes all of the sport right out of it. how much skill does it take to get within a 1000 yards of something? not a lot in my book. sure this is ok with preadator hunting and prairie dogs but when its a big game animal it changes the whole thing. you need to make sure you have a killing shot.

[22lex]

To each their own I guess on this subject, but I haven't seen too many botched 1000 yards shots 'cause they won't show them.

I gotta believe for each 600-1000 yard shot, there are a couple "bad" shots that are edited out.

It's interesting seeing those shots on youtube, but even if I was an accomplished marksman, I don't think I'd be shooting that far just 'cause I think it would take the thrill out of stalking, or patterning an animal.

My 2cents

[JCAMERON]

The notable marksman has probably put equal time into shooting that most of us put into scouting, patterning, food plots etc. That's how they gain there edge.
Personally I wouldn't do it. Where I hunt you're lucky to see a shot over 100 yd. Plus, I like being in the woods, all up close in personal with the game. 

[thunderpout]

It just becomes shooting at that point and is no longer hunting.... there is no sport there to take away... except for the marksmanship aspect.  Theres much more to hunting than that, but it is an important part, but maybe more important than being able to take a 1000 yd shot, is being able to know what shot you're capable of making... (whatever the weapon being used)

[stevejedlenski]

i say if you want to shoot that far shoot at targets not game...

[guythathunts]

I see nothing wrong with it. Most of us on this sight have missed or wounded. Maybe we could learn a lesson from these guys. I know a ton of guys who have injured deer at 200 yards or less. There are no threads about them not sighting in there guns or not putting in the time to be good with their gun. I think if these guys are consistant, they are ethical. Should you take a shot like that... I would think not... other wise I would know you from your You Tube clips!

[stevejedlenski]

I see nothing wrong with it. Most of us on this sight have missed or wounded. Maybe we could learn a lesson from these guys. I know a ton of guys who have injured deer at 200 yards or less. There are no threads about them not sighting in there guns or not putting in the time to be good with their gun. I think if these guys are consistant, they are ethical. Should you take a shot like that... I would think not... other wise I would know you from your You Tube clips!

so do you think its ok for someone to take a shot a deer with a bow from 100 yards? one little twitch, even your heart beating can make you miss or take off a leg at 1000 yrds.

[JCAMERON]

By no means do I think that because you see it on you tube that you should try it. The amount of skill involved there must be incredible.

[thunderpout]

But are they filming their misses, or the bad shot where they take off a leg... or better yet, not seeing whats behind that 1000 yd target, say another few hundred yds back.... like another hunter taking a shot at that same target/animal from 75 yds. ..... just something to think about.....

[guythathunts]

It can be done ethically. I wasn't there so I don't know for sure, but it can be done. What if they are on a ranch. Better yet what if it is high fence operation and they know all the factors? We don't know what the circumstances are, but it COULD be ok.

[stevejedlenski]

ya especially if they are just shooting dogs and cats from the pound. haha jk i would say if someone does do this that animal cannot be moving. think of how much time it takes to have that precision if that animal is moving theres no way IMO that a shot could be ethical.

[guythathunts]

ya especially if they are just shooting dogs and cats from the pound. haha jk i would say if someone does do this that animal cannot be moving. think of how much time it takes to have that precision if that animal is moving theres no way IMO that a shot could be ethical.

I agree. That is why we don't take shots like that. Heck I can even see that far!

[22lex]

But are they filming their misses, or the bad shot where they take off a leg... or better yet, not seeing whats behind that 1000 yd target, say another few hundred yds back.... like another hunter taking a shot at that same target/animal from 75 yds. ..... just something to think about.....

Absolutely my point Pout. All videographers film everything, and edit out afterwords. It happens on all those shows we all watch, like when they pan away and "give the animal overnight" when they know they just flinched, or hit it high. One of the guys from those videos made by H.S. Specialties is well known for misses, and bad angle shots that always end up labeled "we better give him overnight" which reverts to "I just made a hors%$^ shot on him, and we don't want to push him around". We have all made less than fruitfull shots in our careers as outdoorsman I would assume, and I'm willing to bet these guys on Youtube have also.

Most of the long bombs I've seen on Youtube have been shooting across a valley, or into a moutainside. I'm not saying it's something I would do though.

[Benny]

Keep in mind that some of these people on these shows are not really shooting that far.The camera angle, and how far the camera is in relation to the hunter and or game may make it look like a 1000 yard shot but it probably is only 300 or 400 yards.


You have to take wind, marage,heat or cold, and gravety into play when your shooting at 1000 + yards. One just doesn't pull up off hand and place a round in the x ring with out knowing the bullet coeficent, the gravitational pull on the bullets mass, the sight marage at that distance, and what the wind is like at the target and not just at your face.

I doubt any person who has not practaced a shot like that could hit a white tail let alog a P dog at that far.

Benny