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Author Topic: Give me some space!  (Read 5513 times)

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Offline deadeye

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What is with it with guys putting stands on the property lines.  We share 3/4 mile border with these guys and they have six stands less then 20 feet from the property line.  I took these pictures from our property.  The guy looking at the box stand is standing on our property.  I'm half tempted to put up stands right next to them.  I could then go from stand to stand, sit for a while and have a chat with the guy in the other stand and then move on to the next one.  :scratch:   



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Offline DDSBYDAY

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  I am sure that any deer you pass on will not make it to next year.  These guys are just trying to take advantage of your hard work.  Maybe letting them know there will be no retrieval permission given on your property.  Pop up some no trespassing signs in front of each stand to make it clear.  It nice to get along with neighbors but with some it is not possible.
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If you connected them with zip lines deadeye, you'd only have to climb up and down once.  ;)
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Offline Cody Gruchow

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I deal with the same thing, it gets old. the one guy I know for 100% certainty that he shoots across the line. based on 3 facts. 1. he is only 10 yards at most off the line. 2. he is facingour property and there is no where to shoot but across. 3. he always has to come retrieve deer on the property I hunt.

I always talk about falling a tree into the tree that he has his stand in to solve the problem, but I just cant bring myself to do it

Offline proangler16

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I deal with the same thing, it gets old. the one guy I know for 100% certainty that he shoots across the line. based on 3 facts. 1. he is only 10 yards at most off the line. 2. he is facingour property and there is no where to shoot but across. 3. he always has to come retrieve deer on the property I hunt.

I always talk about falling a tree into the tree that he has his stand in to solve the problem, but I just cant bring myself to do it

Take the saw out and just knotch a few trees and let mother nature do the rest.... :bonk:
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Offline Boar

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I DEAL WITH IT TO, BUT WHAT GET ME IS WHEN THEY FACE MY PROPERTY. it looks like they do there also.  I like to go and talk and chat, mybe hang my coat on a tree an take a piss or something shoot at  a squirel. move on ect.
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Get a boombox for every one of those stands and hang them on your property. The night before the opener make a quick run to all the radios and crank up some rap music for the neighbors.  The only way they can get the rap to stop is to trespass onto your property where they will get their picture taken by a hidden trail cam.  You will then have proof that they trespassed.  Then bring the pictures to the game warden and prosecute them.
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Tough one here for me.  I'm kind of the guy that says it's his property he should be able to put up stands where ever he wants to as long as he is waiting to shoot until they cross the line.  Just like this guy shouldn't get pissed if deadeye decides to put up a 15 foot high fence the entire 3/4 of a mile on his property so the deer can't cross. 
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i like the no trespassing sign idea. it's hard to be a total jerk wad as you own the property and having to worry about some douche neighbor and battling with him every time.. would grow old. 

but a random shotshell dropped around his stand with a cotton ball soaked in dads old cologne shoved in it would spook the deer.
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I agree with yu in that G, but facing anothers property is sendi g the wrong message.
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Cody, Does he ask to retrieve or just does it on his own?  Also, if he does retrieve deer on your property (nothing wrong here) you should be able to backtrack to see where it was shot. 

Boar, I agree a stand facing the property looks bad but it really doesn't make much difference which way it faces.  Anyone here never shot a deer that was "behind" them?  I would pretty much consider all stands are capable shooting 360 degrees. 

General,  If a guy puts a stand 100 yards off the line, there is a much greater chance the deer he sees will be on his land.  Also, if we want to put up a stand and we stay off the line 100 yards off the line our stands would be 200 yards apart.  No problem for either of us. 

I don't intend to do anything to affect other peoples hunt but will take any opportunity to discuss the issues when I run into them.

We own the 5 acre field and the land in the woods on the far side and the land to my left.  One neighbor has a stand just to my left which overlooks this field.  Another neighbor who owns the land (woods) to my right has a stand in the far right corner just off our property line.  So we have a field with neighbors stands on the opposite corners both overlooking the field.     

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deadeye he does ask most of the time. but only if he cripples them, which he does often.

but under dnr rules he does not have to ask permission to enter the land to retrieve a wounded or dead animal he shot, but if you come across said person while he or she is tracking the animal then its your choice, if you say leave they have to immediately. otherwise they are trespassing if they refuse to leave.

 I do not like this rule, because people should always know at all times who is on there land. the right thing for them to do is contact the landowner even if the animal is yards across the fence. nothing messes up neighbor relationships faster then finding someone on there land unannounced.

we personally deal with it a lot over here in the metro at the hunting club I work at and that I deer hunt at. people dumping old garbage/furniture/brush etc. people sitting right on the line. the back side of the property is a cow pasture and I counted 7 stands in a 100 yard radius of each other every single one is on the line facing in. the one is sitting right across from a no trespassing sign. ive convinced my boss to get trail cameras.

your in  a tough spot on how to deal with these guys, even though they are not breaking any laws its extremely discurtious  of them

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Either way it sucks his land is his land. Ect ect. Just showes his mentality and character.
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well.. first steps is meet the new neighbors let them know your hunting it and have your kids/grandkids hunting it and that there will be people around and if they need to step foot on your land that they talk to you and only you just so the kids don't get nervous in their stands with strangers walking around.

could be years past no one hunted that land or they only hunted opening morning and they saw the placement to be a way to take advantage of the vacant land (illegal yes).. 
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 I've know the various neighbors for years and do visit with them on occasion.  Two different neighbors actually have stands on my property.  Of course, we discussed this and agreed it was to have them there.  One guy pushed it a little as we agreed he could leave a stand there (it was a metal ladder stand).  Now several years later, he has a large enclosed box stand in that location.  Several years ago some guys bought property next to mine.  The previous owners had put a tripod out in a swamp (about 100 yards into my land) and I didn't have a problem with that (I would on occasion use it).  The new guys ask if they could use it and I said it would be ok.  Well, what I didn't know is they road wheelers through my land and out to the stand making a real mess in the swamp.  For cripes sake it's only 50 yards from the land.  Even an old fart like me can walk that far.  I guess the lesson here is if you get permission to use someones property, take extreme care not to screw it up.  If any of the others that have the stands on the property lines would have come to me and discussed it, maybe simply acknowledge that they are on the line and would like to work something out, I might well have said it was ok to have them there.  Maybe even in the case of the field let them (legally) shoot deer on the field.   I'm sure they are all afraid to bring it up because they think I will tell them to back off.  Little do they know I'm not an unreasonable person.

         
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we used to hunt an area where my brother always had his "shadow".. everyear this guy would come out and they would sit 20 yards apart on the property line.
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Looks to me like you have some prime real estate to erect some large billboards.perhaps you could advertise on them the numbers to call if they witness any illegal activity. The Sheriffs dept. and *tip for Turn in Poachers. They will also appreciate that you gave them a nice windbreak.
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Offline dew2

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Tough one here for me.  I'm kind of the guy that says it's his property he should be able to put up stands where ever he wants to as long as he is waiting to shoot until they cross the line.  Just like this guy shouldn't get pissed if deadeye decides to put up a 15 foot high fence the entire 3/4 of a mile on his property so the deer can't cross.
I agree whit da general,I wouldnt put up that high fence tho.I' just place a crude sappling stand between 3 trees on the property line close and visit it during prime times.We've had this happen in the 80s.New land owner who posted all his property,I was a local and the adjacent owners were locals.We just cut him off. He did come talk,and all was resolved after we let him know it looked as tho he was using his property to take advantage of ours. we said if you have to drag one out, go through our property the short cut, BUT where the stands are located it looks like you'd like to hunt ours, Can we hunt yours when your not here. He stammered a bit but all worked out.I think because he didnt know the curitisy rules that arent printed but learned.
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Here are a few more "on the line" stands.  To get a feel for how close and what they over look, I stood on my property and took pictures facing the stands then did a 180 and took pictures of my property. (with my back to the stands).  This leaves little room for us to hunt this area.

From my property facing a stand.


Same spot just the other way (towards my propery)


From my property facing another stand (opposite corner from the first picture)


Same spot, I just did a 180 and took this facing my property.
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I'd for sure put up some no hunting signs.
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Offline Cody Gruchow

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i call this guy a vulture. He's right on the line and facing in

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Offline proangler16

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Well, for the stands right on the property lines, there's always a lot a chain saw can do, drop some big trees with branches to hinder there shots, make hard access in and out of the stands or cut hidden notches here and there and let mother nature and the wind mysteriously take over with trees dropping....oop's...
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Cut some wood at my uncles land today and we came across this guys stand which is only 3 to 4 feet off of the line and his only shots are onto my uncles land.

The orange hat is hanging on the corner post of the property that he has permission to hunt on.

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