Tribe's request denied!

[mike89]

some are saying they even go to homeless shelters and recruit people.  hope you are wrong to Reb, but it could get very ugly.

[snow1]

Now that the feds are involved,this BS will turn the corner,locals from the area tell me they have road blocks setup already going in and out of the area keeping the lookey lou's and non natives out,they said the standing rock tribe does'nt want these folks coming in stiring the pot,infact relationship with the tribe and locals will never be the same or set back at least 20years,they suspect the folks that cut fences and shot the cattle were from one of many outside trible members.

[Candiru]

What it looks like after a few days of warm weather:    https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/video-disgusting-nodapl-camps-become/


Where do all those people that have been at those camps relieve themselves, #1 and #2?

[Easy]

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[Lee Borgersen]

    North Dakota Senate OKs bills aimed at pipeline protesters.

Politics Associated Press · Bismarck, N.D. · Feb 17, 2017

  .............
 Some oil pipeline protesters were arrested near the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation, Sept. 13, 2016. Courtesy of Morton County, ND Sheriff's Office 2016
A trio of North Dakota House measures influenced by the dispute between Dakota Access pipeline protesters and law enforcement sailed through the Republican-led Senate Thursday, though some Democrats called the bills an overreaction and unnecessary.

The Senate voted 33-12 in favor of a measure that makes it a crime for adults to wear masks in most cases. The Senate also approved bills that increase penalties for rioting and trespassing by even wider margins.

The masks and trespassing measures were slightly amended by the Senate. The legislation now returns to the House to see if representatives will agree with Senate changes to the bill. If they do not, a conference committee of three House members and three senators will attempt to strike a compromise.


  ....
• In Minnesota: Activists, DFLers push back against bill to hold protesters liable for costs

Republicans said none of the measures infringe on the right to peacefully protest.

Sen. Tim Mathern, D-Fargo, called legislation aimed at rioting "knee-jerk." Under the proposal, those convicted of participating in a riot involving more than 100 people could be sentenced to up to 10 years in prison and a $20,000 fine -- double the current penalties for a lower-end felony. Participation in smaller riots, currently a misdemeanor, would be upgraded to a felony carrying up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

North Dakota has been the center of protests against the $3.8 billion, four-state pipeline, in large part because of objections of the Standing Rock Sioux tribe in the southern part of the state.

There have been more than 700 protest-related arrests in North Dakota since mid-August. But should have been more


    Lock um up! tut_tut-3315.gif

[Lee Borgersen]

Floods approaching, some Dakota Access protesters plan final act of defiance at camp.

  ...........
Where thousands of people once built, slept and ate — and protested — a couple of hundred Dakota Access oil pipeline opponents now struggle to clean up camp as a deadline to evacuate approaches Wednesday.

Spring flooding is expected to inundate the Oceti Sakowin camp within days, prompting the Army Corps of Engineers to order people off the property by 2 p.m.

Winona Kasto has been worrying this week about saving her kitchen supplies from demolition crews.

"Got to take those two tipis down, this tent, these two tents, that meat tent and this RV," she said surveying the kitchen operation that has fed countless protesters who started arriving in big numbers last fall to challenge completion of the Dakota Access pipeline.

 
Full story and lots of discussing photos here:

 
http://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/02/22/floods-approaching-some-dakota-access-protesters-plan-final-act-of-defiance-at-camp

[glenn57]

me thinks they should send the people who started and organized this protest for all costs incurred for cleanup..............including wages for any law enforcement !!!!!

[Rebel SS]

me thinks they should send the people who started and organized this protest for all costs incurred for cleanup..............including wages for any law enforcement !!!!!

Ya, and how are they gonna make THAT happen?!       

[Lee Borgersen]

me thinks they should send the people who started and organized this protest for all costs incurred for cleanup..............including wages for any law enforcement !!!!!

Ya, and how are they gonna make THAT happen?!       

They can pay us back wit white eyes scalps
while were on da subject did anyone see the way da Hawks scalped da Wild last night?
  once again

[glenn57]

me thinks they should send the people who started and organized this protest for all costs incurred for cleanup..............including wages for any law enforcement !!!!!

Ya, and how are they gonna make THAT happen?!       

send it to the tribe who started this 

[Rebel SS]

And you know hat you'll get in return.........

[Rebel SS]

Now there's a nice mess to lean up....

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/dakota-pipeline-protests/dakota-pipeline-protesters-torch-tents-deadline-leave-looms-n724131

[Candiru]

A bunch of  Pics from yesterday.  What a mess. 

http://bismarcktribune.com/gallery/photos-protest-camp-evacuation/collection_34f1d6ba-8417-57a4-bd08-733e4afe58e3.html#44

[LPS]

Like I said in the other thread, some of these people must not have jobs to be there that long, and lots of them are probably homeless and this is a convenient place to live for awhile. 

[Rebel SS]

Like I said in the other thread, some of these people must not have jobs to be there that long, and lots of them are probably homeless and this is a convenient place to live for awhile.

Rebs solution:

Maybe they could get together with the BLM folk, and since Guantanamo is being emptied, ship 'em all over there, where they can protest to their hearts content.  Lotsa nice rooms over there. 

[LPS]

Obviously lots of water too...

[snow1]

Well operation "Beat the Hippies" is under way~ they had a chance to leave,and most if not all are from outof state.Some not even tribal...

[snow1]

PS~ That was awesome to watch that jack wagon was taunting and harassing the police for nearly 3 hrs before he was tackled and arrested. His attitude changed quickly once he was on the ground and was crying like a little girl. The officers had a couple good quotes. As the asshat was mumbling about his hip being broken the officer said
" use your words we know you can we have been listening to you for the last two hours "
" you need to grow up you have been disrespecting the land, our state, and us for 6 months"

[Lee Borgersen]

              "Caution Warning!"

The following video could be hazardous to your health. It could cause nausia, dizzyness, and diaria.
It's highly recommended that you have a wastebasket & paper towels near by in case you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkAKUSYakrQ&list=PLOy4FqQKFpR5GfauQ3GtZ3qOTyNzSnuT4&index=2

[Lee Borgersen]

A federal judge will hear arguments.

 Tuesday about whether to stop the final bit of construction on the disputed Dakota Access pipeline, perhaps just days before it could start moving oil.


 confused-3316.gif ......WTF
U.S. District Judge James Boasberg in Washington, D.C., will consider a request by the Standing Rock and Cheyenne River Sioux tribes to order the Army Corps of Engineers to withdraw permission for developer Energy Transfer Partners to lay pipe under Lake Oahe in North Dakota. The stretch under the Missouri River reservoir is the last piece of construction for the $3.8 billion pipeline that's to move oil through the Dakotas and Iowa to a shipping point in Illinois.


• FAQ: The Dakota Access pipeline and protest

The tribes argue that the mere existence of an oil pipeline under the reservoir that provides water to the neighboring reservations violates their right to practice their religion, which relies on clean water.

"The granting of the easement and resulting construction activity violates the tribe's and its members' constitutional rights, and will result in immediate and irreparable harm to the tribe and its members before this court will be able to rule on the merits of this claim," tribal attorney Nicole Ducheneaux said in court documents.

When they filed the lawsuit last summer, the tribes argued that the pipeline threatens Native American cultural sites and their water supply. Their religion argument is new, however, and both the Corps and Energy Transfer Partners argue that the delay in raising it is a reason for Boasberg to reject the argument.

Company attorney William Scherman also said the tribes' claim is suspect based on other man-made infrastructure under the lake, and that the company respects the tribe's religious beliefs but has no legal duty to make concessions for them.

Corps attorney Erica Zilioli said the government's permission for the company to lay pipe under the lake "does not substantially burden the exercise of the tribe's religious beliefs."


The protests at Standing Rock: Oil, water, race and treaty rights

Earlier this month, Boasberg declined the tribes' request to order an immediate halt to the pipeline construction, ruling that as long as oil wasn't flowing through the pipeline, there was no imminent harm to the tribes.

In a court filing Friday, Ducheneaux argued the claim is "about the religious harm arising from the mere siting of this pipeline under the tribe's sacred waters."

Boasberg's decision on the matter won't be the end of the court battle. Both tribes have asked him to overturn the federal permission for the Lake Oahe crossing and to bar the Corps from granting permission in the future. The judge won't rule until at least April.

Hundreds and sometimes thousands of pipeline opponents who sided with tribal opposition to the pipeline camped on federal land near the drill site for months, often clashing with police. There have been about 750 arrests in the region since August. Authorities last week closed the camp in advance of spring flooding season and set up roadblocks to prevent protesters from returning.

Work under Lake Oahe had been held up in the courts until President Donald Trump last month instructed the Corps to advance construction. The Army is involved because its engineering branch manages the river and its system of hydroelectric dams, which is owned by the federal government.

Texas-based Energy Transfer Partners began drilling under the lake Feb. 8. The pipeline could be operating as early as Monday and no later than early April, according to Scherman.

[Lee Borgersen]

  Judge won't stop construction of Dakota Access pipeline.

Environment Associated Press · Bismarck, N.D. ·  Mar 7, 2017 


 

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A federal judge declined Tuesday to temporarily stop construction of the final section of the disputed Dakota Access oil pipeline, clearing the way for oil to flow as soon as next week.

The Standing Rock and Cheyenne River Sioux had asked U.S. District Judge James Boasberg in Washington to direct the Army Corps of Engineers to withdraw permission for Texas-based developer Energy Transfer Partners to lay pipe under Lake Oahe in North Dakota. The stretch under the Missouri River reservoir in southern North Dakota is the last piece of construction for the $3.8 billion pipeline to move North Dakota oil to Illinois.

When they filed the lawsuit last summer, the tribes argued that the pipeline threatens Native American cultural sites and their water supply. Their religion argument was new, however, and disputed by both the Corps and ETP.


In February, Boasberg declined the tribes' request to order an immediate halt to the pipeline construction, ruling that as long as oil wasn't flowing through the pipeline, there was no imminent harm to the tribes.





Tribal attorney Nicole Ducheneaux countered in court documents that the mere existence of an oil pipeline under the reservoir the tribes consider to be "sacred waters" violated their right to practice their religion.

The court battle isn't over, as no final decision has been made on the merits of the tribes' overall claims. Both tribes also have asked Boasberg to overturn the federal permission for the Lake Oahe crossing and to bar the Corps from granting permission in the future. The judge won't rule until at least April.

The pipeline saga has endured for months. Hundreds and sometimes thousands of pipeline opponents who sided with tribal opposition to the pipeline camped on federal land near the drill site for months, often clashing with police. There have been about 750 arrests in the region since August. Authorities last month closed the camp in advance of spring flooding season and set up roadblocks to prevent protesters from returning.





Work under Lake Oahe had been held up in the courts until President Donald Trump last month instructed the Corps to advance construction. The Army is involved because its engineering branch manages the river and its system of hydroelectric dams, which is owned by the federal government.

ETP began drilling under the lake Feb. 8. Company attorney William Scherman said in court documents that the pipeline could be moving oil as early as next week.

[snow1]

Its amazing! the corps and private company dapl had all paperwork at the ready two years ago,invited the tribe to a round table meeting to address any and all concerns,nothing became of it until the pipeline hit the river,its obvious they want$$$ but the battle they want is over and the damage done by the tribe set relations back 20yrs or more,infact state legistrators are lobbing to enstate state run casino's asking for (5) to for starters,locals have been boycotting tribal casino's since this all started,the tribe is feeling the effects.With any luck we'll see the days of federal tax monies being funneled to the tribes end,after all they live a double standard life style for many years,federal aid and casino$$$,enough is enough.

[Lee Borgersen]

Its amazing! the corps and private company dapl had all paperwork at the ready two years ago,invited the tribe to a round table meeting to address any and all concerns,nothing became of it until the pipeline hit the river,its obvious they want$$$ but the battle they want is over and the damage done by the tribe set relations back 20yrs or more,infact state legistrators are lobbing to enstate state run casino's asking for (5) to for starters,locals have been boycotting tribal casino's since this all started,the tribe is feeling the effects.With any luck we'll see the days of federal tax monies being funneled to the tribes end,after all they live a double standard life style for many years,federal aid and casino$$$,enough is enough.

  If you run for office I'll vote for you!

[delcecchi]

.With any luck we'll see the days of federal tax monies being funneled to the tribes end,after all they live a double standard life style for many years,federal aid and casino$$$,enough is enough.

Yep, those folks on Pine Ridge and Red Lake reservations are really raking it in.   You should see the mansions they live in.   

"The reservation encompasses the entirety of Oglala Lakota County, the southern half of Jackson County and the northwest portion of Bennett County. Of the 3,142 counties in the United States, these are among the poorest. Only 84,000 acres (340 km2) of land are suitable for agriculture."

[Rebel SS]

   Get out and get a job like everyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

[glenn57]

well there the ones that wanted there " SOVERGIEN NATION" deal with it. and like reb said......I had a neighbor who,s family had a construction business that built a lot of houses for the natives. he said they went back later to do some warranty work. siding tore off the house to use to burn for heat, place is trashed, you name it.

I wont name the reservation we have a place close to but some of the newer places we have seen on the reservation in a few years are absolutely horrendous. let them use there flippin casino money to fix it up. they wanted this crap, I don't feel a bit sorry for them.

with that said I have met some awesome natives that absolutely don't fall into this category and are awesome people!!!!!!

[glenn57]

AND another thing..............these protesters leaving that boars nest out in north Dakota, protesting the pipeline will pollute there grounds and water..........and leaving that mess..........yea right what a joke.

[delcecchi]

AND another thing..............these protesters leaving that boars nest out in north Dakota, protesting the pipeline will pollute there grounds and water..........and leaving that mess..........yea right what a joke.

A lot of non-indians out there in that encampment.     

Don't forget, most of the reservations are on land no one wanted enough to steal.   And what resources they had was mostly "managed" by the Bureau of Indian Affairs who managed to steal or lose most of the money.   Go back and read about it. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobell_v._Salazar

   

[Lee Borgersen]

 



Enlarge photo for best viewing!
 

[Lee Borgersen]

       South Dakota confirms Dakota Access oil pipeline vandalism.

Associated Press · Bismarck, N.D. · Mar 21, 2017


  It never ends
Authorities in South Dakota on Tuesday confirmed an incident of vandalism against the Dakota Access oil pipeline in which someone burned a hole through an empty section of pipe.

  ...
Texas-based pipeline developer Energy Transfer Partners said in court documents Monday that there have been "recent coordinated physical attacks along the pipeline that pose threats to life, physical safety and the environment." The company didn't provide further details, including the locations of the attacks, and ETP spokeswoman Vicki Granado on Tuesday declined comment.

South Dakota attorney general's office spokeswoman Sara Rabern confirmed one incident of what she called "felony vandalism" southeast of Sioux Falls on Friday. Lincoln County Sheriff's Deputy Chad Brown said it happened at an above-ground valve site that had no fencing or other security.


• In depth: Oil, water, race and treaty rights

"When deputies arrived, they observed what appeared to be a hole in the pipe, and it looked like there was burn around the hole," Brown said, adding it was possible the vandalism was done with a blowtorch.

No injuries were reported and no suspects were immediately identified, according to Brown. Local and state officials were investigating and also notified the FBI, he said.

The $3.8 billion pipeline runs 1,200 miles through the Dakotas, Iowa and Illinois. State officials in North Dakota, Iowa and Illinois on Tuesday said they were not aware of any pipeline attacks in their states. Company attorney William Scherman said in the court documents that ETP still plans to have oil flowing this week through the pipeline.

Environmental activists who tried to disrupt some oil pipeline operations in four states last year to protest the Dakota Access pipeline said Tuesday that they weren't responsible for any recent attacks on that pipeline.

Jay O'Hara with the Climate Disobedience Center told the AP that Climate Direct Action wasn't involved, and he wasn't aware of anyone claiming responsibility.

In October, Climate Direct Action activists tried to shut valves on pipelines in North Dakota, Minnesota, Montana and Washington to show support for Dakota Access opponents. Other than that, "we have nothing in the works," O'Hara said.

The Red Warrior Society, a pipeline protest group that advocated aggressive tactics such as confrontations with pipeline security and police in North Dakota last year, didn't immediately respond to a request for comment Tuesday.

Jan Hasselman and Nicole Ducheneaux, attorneys for the Standing Rock and Cheyenne River Sioux tribes, who are leading the legal battle against the pipeline, said the tribes don't encourage or condone acts of violence against pipeline property.

The company's reports of attacks didn't change the plan of authorities in North Dakota to reopen a stretch of highway that was closed for months due to pipeline protests. Part of state Highway 1806 was shut down in late October after a bridge was damaged by fires during protests.

Authorities on Friday began allowing public traffic with the assistance of pilot cars escorting vehicles over the 9-mile stretch near the site where pipeline opponents camped for months. The camps were cleared out and shut down late last month in advance of spring flooding season.

The highway was being fully reopened without pilot cars at midday Tuesday, according to Morton County sheriff's spokesman Rob Keller.

Authorities also are slowly shuttering a law enforcement staging area that was set up last summer in the protest camp area. There is no set timeline for removing the last officers and structures, but Keller and state Emergency Services spokeswoman Cecily Fong indicated it's likely to happen soon after oil begins flowing through the pipeline. "That's going to be the sort of flash point for us," Fong said.