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Offline Lee Borgersen

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  Study planned on walleyes, predators in northern Wisconsin Milwaukee.

Journal Sentinel   1/29 2017

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University researchers plan to start a study this year on the predatory effect of young panfish and largemouth bass on the walleye population in a northern Wisconsin lake.
To do so, they propose to remove large numbers of small panfish and bass by hook-and-line fishing, electro-shocking and fyke netting.

The captured fish would be transferred live to a nearby lake.

The researchers would then monitor the fish population in the study lake. Of primary interest: walleye recruitment, or the number of naturally reproduced walleyes that survive to age 1.

Fisheries biologists know young panfish and bass prey on walleye fry. Over time, the predation could transform a walleye-dominated lake to one dominated by panfish and bass.

The researchers hypothesize that by removing significant numbers of young panfish and bass, natural reproduction of walleyes will increase and possibly lead to strong year-classes of walleyes.

The study is a joint effort of the University of Wisconsin, UW-Stevens Point and the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.

The universities have received a $1 million grant for the study from the U.S. Geological Survey.

Steve Carpenter, director of the Center for Limnology at UW, is leading the project.

"We've known for more than a decade that walleye populations are declining in hundreds of northern lakes," Carpenter said. "There are likely several factors involved, but we're still trying to find out which are most important and if there is a strategy toward long-term walleye restoration."

Past research has shown climate change is having a detrimental impact on walleyes. Shoreline development and habitat loss are also proven to negatively effect walleye populations.

Attempts to improve walleye populations have included habitat work, stocking and regulation changes. While some lakes have benefited, fisheries managers and researchers have yet to find a “cure-all” solution to improving walleye populations, Carpenter said.

After considerable conversation between researchers and fisheries biologists in the Upper Midwest, Carpenter said it was decided a predator removal experiment should be conducted to target the small predators.

"Mature bass likely aren't the problem," Carpenter said. "But all the small bass and small panfish in a lake are prime predators of walleye fry. That's what we want to look closely at."

The work is planned for one lake and would last for four or five years. Depending on early results, Carpenter said he'd like to apply for more funding to extend the study for eight to 10 years.

One or two reference lakes in the area would be used to study the fish communities for any weather-related or other changes over the study period.

Removing thousands of small bluegills, pumkinseed sunfish and juvenile bass is a daunting undertaking. Carpenter said the work would enlist "hard-working undergraduates who love to fish" as well as nets and electro-shocking.

The predator removal work would be repeated annually.

The main goals of the experiment would be to: reduce the numbers of largemouth bass and sunfish; improve walleye spawning and survival; and ultimately increase the numbers of adult walleye in the selected lake.

A DNR permit will be required to conduct the study.

The researchers have identified nine candidate lakes; the study lake will be chosen with help from public input.


Meetings will be held from 6:30 to 8 p.m. Monday in at the Minocqua Public Library and 6:30 to 8 Tuesday at the Hayward Veteran's Center.

"We've gotten a lot of encouraging response from the public so far," Carpenter said. "We're excited to get this going."

Whitefish survey: The DNR is soliciting public comments through Feb. 10 on Green Bay whitefish management. After receiving strong public opposition, the agency last year shelved a proposal that could have increased commercial fishing for whitefish and allowed netters to keep walleyes in southern Green Bay. The DNR has a survey on dnr.wi.gov under search words "whitefish management." Or written comments can be mailed to David Boyarski, WDNR, 110 S Neenah Ave., Sturgeon Bay, WI 54235.
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So we're going to take a bunch of fish out of a lake that eat baby walleyes and then wonder if the walleye population increases. :scratch: 

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So we're going to take a bunch of fish out of a lake that eat baby walleyes and then wonder if the walleye population increases. :scratch:

Nope Wisconsin is! You know how dem dare Packer fans are. ;)
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I say take them walleye, aka rough fish out and let the fish that belong alone! :happy1:
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I say take them walleye, aka rough fish out and let the fish that belong alone! :happy1:

I bet if a vote was taken in MN Glenn you'd be on the losing end just like in November when you voted for Hillary. face_plant-2139.gif
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 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: who said I voted for Hillary? :scratch:
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hey Glenn, not sure what fish you favor for taste, but I do like "a northern" the best, more flavor in my book!!  Y bone them and good to go for some great eats!!
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hey Glenn, not sure what fish you favor for taste, but I do like "a northern" the best, more flavor in my book!!  Y bone them and good to go for some great eats!!
skin on sunfish. Then pike. Y bones don't bother me. If there 4 lbs or bigger I'll y-bone them. The Y-bone gets pickled. 2-3 overs I usually smoke unless I don't have any nords to fry up
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ok skin on sunnies are good too and agree on the slimers too!!  even done the Mt. Dew??
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Nope? And easy peasey scaling with the scaling pail and drill!
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never seen the pail, heard about it.  bring a big batch of Mt Dew tom a boil, drop in 1 inch size  chunks of fish.  you know when it's done, dip in melted butter, so good!!! :happy1:
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I say take them walleye, aka rough fish out and let the fish that belong alone! :happy1:

I bet if a vote was taken in MN Glenn you'd be on the losing end just like in November when you voted for Hillary. face_plant-2139.gif
no argument here. Doesn't mean there right; :rotflmao: smoking_a_joint-408.gif
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Eat more BASS!!! tut_tut-3315.gif  Too bad they are so Mushy...

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Climate change? Who wrote that article Lee?
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Quote from: Leech~~ link=topic=34761.msg242195#msg242195 date :=1487733462

Where's Del? He's was the Expert on what happened to Mille Lacs!  doofus-2124.gif
he's busy slamming me in another thread for spearing nords!!! face_plant-2139.gif :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Climate change? Who wrote that article Lee?

The study is a joint effort of the University of Wisconsin, UW-Stevens Point and the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.

The universities have received a $1 million grant for the study from the U.S. Geological Survey.

Steve Carpenter, director of the Center for Limnology at UW, is leading the project.
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Where's Del? He's was the Expert on what happened to Mille Lacs!  doofus-2124.gif

I'm around.  And I can read, unlike some of the mille lacs "it's the netting" crew.   What do you need?  Someone to explain the data to you?

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Quote from: Leech~~ link=topic=34761.msg242195#msg242195 date :=1487733462

Where's Del? He's was the Expert on what happened to Mille Lacs!  doofus-2124.gif
he's busy slamming me in another thread for spearing nords!!! face_plant-2139.gif :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

It's so funny.   Folks get all in a lather about natives spearing walleye and then go spear northerns.   "frauds and hypocrites"   to quote someone sometime.   
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Quote from: Leech~~ link=topic=34761.msg242195#msg242195 date :=1487733462

Where's Del? He's was the Expert on what happened to Mille Lacs!  doofus-2124.gif
he's busy slamming me in another thread for spearing nords!!! face_plant-2139.gif :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

It's so funny.   Folks get all in a lather about natives spearing walleye and then go spear northerns.   "frauds and hypocrites"   to quote someone sometime.   
 tut_tut-3315.gif :smiley: :moon:
hey Del, read the law book, spearing pike is a legal firm of harvesting pike, spearing walleye on the other hand is not. Sheez I thought you said you could Read.
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Quote from: Leech~~ link=topic=34761.msg242195#msg242195 date :=1487733462

Where's Del? He's was the Expert on what happened to Mille Lacs!  doofus-2124.gif
he's busy slamming me in another thread for spearing nords!!! face_plant-2139.gif :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

It's so funny.   Folks get all in a lather about natives spearing walleye and then go spear northerns.   "frauds and hypocrites"   to quote someone sometime.   
 tut_tut-3315.gif :smiley: :moon:
hey Del, read the law book, spearing pike is a legal firm of harvesting pike, spearing walleye on the other hand is not. Sheez I thought you said you could Read.

Hey at least Glenn harvests his speared pike for eating. How many times have we all seen photos of fish gut piles with mixed in pike that have never even been cleaned by tribe members. :taz:

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Speaking of wasteful slaughter! Did you guys see da way da hawks slaughtered da wild last night?
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very true Lee!!  and very sad
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"It's legal to spear nords"   Yep and it's legal for Natives to spear walleye, or even gill net them.    Yet folks still get all bent out of shape over what the Natives do and never raise an eyebrow over anyone else.     

Spearing is spearing, and northerns are just as valuable as walleye, regardless of what the dnr policy would have you believe.   

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Maybe it's because the natives do WAY more netting than the others put together...and you KNOW that's true..check out some of the amounts caught and posted, like the big "picked over" net dump left in the woods to rot  some years back by the natives.
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the state needs better control without politics which is too late.  spearing in most states is any fish. we lonely and happy here with just the nord.  and we went though that politics before. today it's done. nothing left to say I think.
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the state needs better control without politics which is too late.  spearing in most states is any fish. we lonely and happy here with just the nord.  and we went though that politics before. today it's done. nothing left to say I think.

I still don't like it and don't believe it is sportsmanlike.   Others may not share my opinion, but they shouldn't reef on the natives for spearing while approving of northern spearing by non natives.   

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Not the spearing that bothers me in either facet...it's the huge amounts of assorted fish in nets that does. It's needless, in THAT amount, in my opinion, whoever does it.
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Reb said it well, we are not the ones taking any thing and every thing.  look at Red and Mil Lacs lakes.  the wonton around ML is well documented and so very sad!!  and all from the nets, I can respect your thoughts, so no disrespect intended.  it's sad we have collide we each other when I think there more.
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The natives aren't interested in spearing northern, there spearing walleyes. And your right everyone has a right to there opinion!
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