Dispersing protest crowds

[delcecchi]

yohh i hear ya.........not disagreeing one bit. dont matter Floyd had 2 illegal drugs in his system that was probablt gonna kill him anyway!!

Still not no reason for a cop to hurry the process.

[glenn57]

yohh i hear ya.........not disagreeing one bit. dont matter Floyd had 2 illegal drugs in his system that was probablt gonna kill him anyway!!

Still not no reason for a cop to hurry the process.

never said it was Del.......maybe iffin he didnt pass a counterfeit bill .......................... he'd of never had that police encounter!!!!!!

[mike89]

everyone seems to forget that floyd is the one who started the whole thing with illegal activities...  and I'm not saying what happened to him was right either..  just sayin..................

[Steve-o]

I reckon this will be the biggest national trial since OJ.

And God help the Twin Cities if the mob disagrees with the verdict.

[dutchboy]

yohh i hear ya.........not disagreeing one bit. dont matter Floyd had 2 illegal drugs in his system that was probablt gonna kill him anyway!!

I'm not arguing. The metro is going to burn and the verdict won't matter which ever way it goes.

[Leech~~]

yohh i hear ya.........not disagreeing one bit. dont matter Floyd had 2 illegal drugs in his system that was probablt gonna kill him anyway!!

I'm not arguing. The metro is going to burn and the verdict won't matter which ever way it goes.

When is this suppose to start so I can head up north for a few days. Better board up the Targets and Footlocker stores.  The looting has nothing to do with this, it has to do with Air Jordon's! 

Look like his "Fair Trial" will be.  :Jury selection in Chauvin's "prosecution" was set for March 8 with opening statements slated for no earlier than March 29, according to the ruling by Hennepin County Judge Peter Cahill. 
Sounds like he's already sentenced? 

[LPS]

And when it hits the fan there will be all of the extremists of every cause there to make things worse.  THAT will be a problem again!!!

[Gunner55]

And when it hits the fan there will be all of the extremists of every cause there to make things worse.  THAT will be a problem again!!!

With some of our elected representatives like Omar & the 1 from Georgia eggin 'em on.   How soon are the mid terms?

[delcecchi]

So, 20 bucks is a misdemeanor, right?   In rochester that will get you 2 days of supervised probation.   

[glenn57]

So, 20 bucks is a misdemeanor, right?   In rochester that will get you 2 days of supervised probation.   

it was counterfeit that's federal. What part of that don't you get.

[Gunner55]

Just like movin ANYTHING stolen across state lines. Used to be called RICO

[dutchboy]

Law enforcement doesn't need to be real sophisticated these days. Since 9-11 they can pin just about anything under the terrorism act if they want to. Counterfeit money could be laundered to send over seas correct?  It's a stretch but doable.   

[delcecchi]

So, 20 bucks is a misdemeanor, right?   In rochester that will get you 2 days of supervised probation.   

Yep and the FBI will be all over that dude that happened to show up at the store with a fake 20....   

Looks like Chauvin got his rocks off kneeling on people's heads, from the media reports.   Guess his wife wasn't into it. 

[Dotch]

Be interesting to see how much of that type of info winds up being hearsay del. After seeing the transcript and most of the arrest recordings then reading about the contents of the toxicology report, Ellison is going to have his hands full especially if these guys are lawyered up like I suspect they are. Ellison is cocky and arrogant. This won't be as easy as rolling some poor outstate restaurant owner schlep with governor Killjoy's mandate. Wondering if that's part of why the prosecution is after the murder 3 charge as well so at least they have more options to make something stick.   

[glenn57]

So, 20 bucks is a misdemeanor, right?   In rochester that will get you 2 days of supervised probation.   

Yep and the FBI will be all over that dude that happened to show up at the store with a fake 20....   

Looks like Chauvin got his rocks off kneeling on people's heads, from the media reports.   Guess his wife wasn't into it.

the FBI maybe wasn't but looks like the police were. Like I keep saying if he hadn't did anything illegal, there wouldn't of been any police. I'm not saying he should of died.

[delcecchi]

Be interesting to see how much of that type of info winds up being hearsay del. After seeing the transcript and most of the arrest recordings then reading about the contents of the toxicology report, Ellison is going to have his hands full especially if these guys are lawyered up like I suspect they are. Ellison is cocky and arrogant. This won't be as easy as rolling some poor outstate restaurant owner schlep with governor Killjoy's mandate. Wondering if that's part of why the prosecution is after the murder 3 charge as well so at least they have more options to make something stick.

We will never know since apparently none of the complaints were really investigated.    I still think there probably was something personal there,  but it could have just been Chauvin's thing.    But the videos I have seen are pretty bad for him.     

Usually I defend cops but this time not so sure.      I guess we will find out more at trial, hopefully.    I'm glad I am 80 miles away.

[dutchboy]

Like I mentioned earlier I think Chavin gets convicted, but he won't go for life. The other guys will get something on their record but I will be surprised if it leads to any jail time. Chavin had seniority and that's how the defense will play it.

[delcecchi]

By the way, it isn't "disbursed" I thing that has to do with payday....

Perhaps it should be Dispersed?     Bugs me everytime I see the header...

[Leech~~]

We will never know since apparently none of the complaints were really investigated.    I still think there probably was something personal there,  but it could have just been Chauvin's thing.    But the videos I have seen are pretty bad for him.     

Usually I defend cops but this time not so sure.      I guess we will find out more at trial, hopefully.    I'm glad I am 80 miles away.

May be you should take a look at the whole video Del instead of the chopped up versions you saw on CBS, CNN, ABC

He resisters every minute. He starts yelling about being claustrophobic going into the police SUV right after they pulled him out of his own SUV.  He starts yelling "I can't Breath" in the back of the police SUV before he kicks himself out the other side. Then starts saying I can't breath again.   
Please don't take my would for it. Ask a medical professional or have your wife choke you and try to say "I can't Breath"  It's physically impossible to make sound without air going through your vocal cords!
And don't give me your he can if he was exhaling!    Watch the video with the time rolling, he yelled for minutes when he hit the ground. How much air could he have in his lungs to keep yelling with one breath! 

[Dotch]

Like I said, agree with what happened or not, Ellison has his work cut out for him. 3x the fatal rate of fentanyl + a methamphetamine kicker? Fake $20 bill or not, the cops had a situation to deal with. Incidentally, the knee on the neck treatment to the carotid artery is the same one we use when we encounter a ram being a PITA while shearing. Most of the time they're fine but every once in a while one wants to try the shearer on. The helper, (me) places his knee on the neck to control the 300+ lb. 4 wheel drive mass of testosterone who'd just as soon kill you as look at you. They can breathe and since only one side of their neck is constricted there is no problem. Looks ugly but since the ram isn't on drugs, there's no issue.

[delcecchi]

You ever have heart disease?     One of the symptoms is shortness of breath, and those opioids aggravate it.    And so does compressing the nerves and arteries in you neck, like those MMA guys do.   They call it a choke hold but it is not like strangulation.   

Wasn't he cuffed and in the back of a squad car, and they pulled him out and onto the ground?   I still think Floyd and Chauvin knew each other, and Chauvin had a tendency to go overboard with physical stuff.    But, maybe he was just unlucky that a guy died coincidently from drugs or cardiac arrest while he was kneeling on his neck.

I will be interested to see what all happens at the trial with competing experts. 

[LPS]

It is common knowledge that they did know each other.  They both worked at the same club after hours doing security.  They didn't get along.

[dutchboy]

When they stick Chavin in the Big House he will wish it was him who died. Gonna be some bad people awaiting his arrival.

[Leech~~]

You ever have heart disease?     One of the symptoms is shortness of breath, and those opioids aggravate it.    And so does compressing the nerves and arteries in you neck, like those MMA guys do.   They call it a choke hold but it is not like strangulation.   

Wasn't he cuffed and in the back of a squad car, and they pulled him out and onto the ground?   I still think Floyd and Chauvin knew each other, and Chauvin had a tendency to go overboard with physical stuff.    But, maybe he was just unlucky that a guy died coincidently from drugs or cardiac arrest while he was kneeling on his neck.

I will be interested to see what all happens at the trial with competing experts.

Well even though you live 80 miles away as you stated. You know all tendencies of police office Chauvin. You are a perfect example of who they want on the prosecution jury. The Media has done well at educating another. 🙄

[glenn57]

When they stick Chavin in the Big House he will wish it was him who died. Gonna be some bad people awaiting his arrival.

i agree. even if he is found quilty, of anything, his lawyers will appeal. unless you've lived under a rock since this happened i dont know how they find a jury that hasnt been informed or known about this case.

and think him and his wife are also in hot water over this divorce and not reporting income.

[delcecchi]

You ever have heart disease?     One of the symptoms is shortness of breath, and those opioids aggravate it.    And so does compressing the nerves and arteries in you neck, like those MMA guys do.   They call it a choke hold but it is not like strangulation.   

Wasn't he cuffed and in the back of a squad car, and they pulled him out and onto the ground?   I still think Floyd and Chauvin knew each other, and Chauvin had a tendency to go overboard with physical stuff.    But, maybe he was just unlucky that a guy died coincidently from drugs or cardiac arrest while he was kneeling on his neck.

I will be interested to see what all happens at the trial with competing experts.

Well even though you live 80 miles away as you stated. You know all tendencies of police office Chauvin. You are a perfect example of who they want on the prosecution jury. The Media has done well at educating another. 🙄

And you think Chauvin was the second coming of Mr Rogers.    I read the media.     But that's why I am waiting for the trial, maybe then we will know.   

[glenn57]

Del, not even I think Chauvin is the second coming of Mr.  Rogers, but you seem to forget hadnt floyd did something illegal we wouldnt be at this point. and yea if Chauvin and him had issues in the past Chauvin isnt in the clear. 

[Leech~~]

You ever have heart disease?     One of the symptoms is shortness of breath, and those opioids aggravate it.    And so does compressing the nerves and arteries in you neck, like those MMA guys do.   They call it a choke hold but it is not like strangulation.   

Wasn't he cuffed and in the back of a squad car, and they pulled him out and onto the ground?   I still think Floyd and Chauvin knew each other, and Chauvin had a tendency to go overboard with physical stuff.    But, maybe he was just unlucky that a guy died coincidently from drugs or cardiac arrest while he was kneeling on his neck.

I will be interested to see what all happens at the trial with competing experts.

Well even though you live 80 miles away as you stated. You know all tendencies of police office Chauvin. You are a perfect example of who they want on the prosecution jury. The Media has done well at educating another. 🙄

And you think Chauvin was the second coming of Mr Rogers.    I read the media.     But that's why I am waiting for the trial, maybe then we will know.   

No I'm sure Mr. Floyd was an up standing citizen who had nothing to hide. It's to bad he just didn't comply by walking over to the police offices suv. Go down town and review his charges and be released to go about his day. No matter what the media spun on this incident. There was still a video for all fair minded people to watch. What I saw was a man who resisted since the time he was confronted with his possible crime. It's to bad he didn't resist and was still here today doing wonderful things for society.   

[delcecchi]

Well, I'm glad the cops didn't fill the dude in my garbage can full of lead, even though he had a big knife.   It would be really hard to scrub the garage floor in this kind of weather.   

But seriously, a fake 20 that he probably didn't even know was fake?   And rather than give him a summons they cuffed him and put him in the back of a squad, then dragged him out again and all that followed?    Did he like have a warrant for something?    Was he a danger to society?     
And when he became unresponsive, keep kneeling on his neck for another couple minutes?   Should have had one of those MMA referees there to stop the fight...  TKO Chauvin 8 minutes of the first round...

[Leech~~]

Well, I'm glad the cops didn't fill the dude in my garbage can full of lead, even though he had a big knife.   It would be really hard to scrub the garage floor in this kind of weather.   

But seriously, a fake 20 that he probably didn't even know was fake?   And rather than give him a summons they cuffed him and put him in the back of a squad, then dragged him out again and all that followed?    Did he like have a warrant for something?    Was he a danger to society?     
And when he became unresponsive, keep kneeling on his neck for another couple minutes?   Should have had one of those MMA referees there to stop the fight...  TKO Chauvin 8 minutes of the first round...

Agreed. It was kind of crazy for an innocent person to resist to the point he did for a $20. Makes you think he may have been hiding so much more?