One good thing about the weather

[GrandpaTom]

When was the last time you saw one????

[mike89]

aint' that the truth!!!   

[LPS]

 

[dutchboy]

Even those Asian bugs took a hike. 

[Jerkbiat]

Yup. Me likes winter for that reason. No skeeters.

[Dotch]

When it warms up I bet the deer flies and stable flies will come out. 

[glenn57]

When it warms up I bet the deer flies and stable flies will come out. 

so mr ag man. When it was unseasonably warm they were talking on the news that this warmer than normal temps where going to be a problem with all kinds of bugs. I remember back when they talked about the bugs that damaged trees and such.

How in your experience will this 2 week cold snap actually help eliminate bugs. They talked about treating skeeters down In the cities before this cold snap started

[Dotch]

When it warms up I bet the deer flies and stable flies will come out. 

so mr ag man. When it was unseasonably warm they were talking on the news that this warmer than normal temps where going to be a problem with all kinds of bugs. I remember back when they talked about the bugs that damaged trees and such.

How in your experience will this 2 week cold snap actually help eliminate bugs. They talked about treating skeeters down In the cities before this cold snap started

This cold snap will probably do very little in our neck of the woods. Threshold temperatures trump duration generally speaking. We also have about 10" of snow cover to insulate the soil. For western corn rootworm we need to see soil temps of around 14 degrees before much mortality occurs. How do you determine soil temps at various soil depths if you don't have your own measuring capabilities? Use the info provided at the research and outlook centers.

 https://sroc.cfans.umn.edu/weather-sroc

Northern corn rootworm can hack the winters much better and seem to be unaffected by cold winter temps. It's said they're full of anitfreeze.

For soybean aphids the mortality temp threshold is about -29 air temperature. They are vulnerable to a point. However they overwinter on the bud bracts of buckthorn and some of the branches get buried in the snow. When they hatch they fly to soybeans to start reproducing. They bear live young that are born pregnant. When they have good going (75 - 80 degree days with low humidity & low predator populations), their numbers can double every other day. They also produce more winged adults that spread them when carried on the wind currents.

Something like emerald ash borer it may slow them temporarily say in northern MN but down here, this won't likely won't faze them. There again, they fly so they'll spread from where they overwintered farther south.

[glenn57]

  hmm. i was lead to believe this could kill bugs!!!!!!!!!

thanks bud!!!!!!!!!

[Dotch]

You been talking to boar again? 

[glenn57]

You been talking to boar again? 

Yea!!😂😂

[deadeye]

Minnesota's brutal cold is actually good for one thing: killing off the destructive emerald ash borer.

Minnesota Department of Natural Resources Forest Health Program consultant Val Cervenka says many of the insects cannot survive this extremely cold weather.

"Say it gets to be -23 or so, researchers at the Forest Service have found that about 50 percent larvae freeze, so even if all the emerald ash borer larvae aren't killed by the cold temperatures, some are going to be killed," she said.

[LPS]

All very interesting stuff.  Thanks.  We have had -30 or colder for 3 or 4 nights and 3 more to come.  That should eliminate some of those bugs that we don't like it seems. 

[Dotch]

More recent potential bug mortality updates:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W8aKBoQG2656RwTBnMEx74aWmdgnvk2T/view

https://blog-crop-news.extension.umn.edu/2021/02/is-it-cold-enough-yet-what-winter-can.html

[glenn57]

great info...... woulda been interested on like deer flies and horesflies..... friggin skeeters though.

[Dotch]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6316560/

Better? 

https://www.ecowatch.com/malaria-research-cooler-climates-2639230738.html?rebelltitem=3#rebelltitem3

This is why I stay on my malaria treatment regimen. 

[glenn57]

  no........i know them little basstages like water..........high water levels......high populations of them suckers!!!!!!!

[snow1]

Good info dotch.local news last night had a expert from mosquito control speaking,he said this cold will have little to no effect on this coming year crop of skeeters...he could give us a glimer of hope rather than a debbie downer for this springs hatch.

[LPS]

Here I was hoping for a good winterkill on some bugs too.

[Boar]

the dung beetle, glennus poopheadeous  is still around. so the winter didnt hurt every thing

[Dotch]

 

[snow1]

these dnr folks also claim a banner tick season coming.ugh,in past years I've had ticks on my pup in march as they become active on fir tree's on sun filled days.,but who knows? couple dnr co's friends from the silver bay area on the superior north shore tell me they have "winter ticks" up there taking a toll on the minn moose population.

Gun shy on giving tick meds to my pup after after my last two came down with lymphoma from internal meds/vacines,so even tho I keep my grass cut short and burn off my back 40 every spring little some beeches still survive,keep my boy out of the woods from april thru sept these days.

[LPS]

Bravecta has worked great for us.  Not sure about the pup though.  Will have to check that out. 

[Steve-o]

Amen, snow.  I remember deer hunting in the snow one season and a black spot caught my eye on the underside of my blaze orange hunting cap bill.  It was a tiny deer tick.  Hardy bastards.

Ditto the tick medicine on dogs.  Dog had a cancer grow from the point of application along the spine.  I don't remember what brand it was, but we don't use any of it anymore.

[snow1]

Amen, snow.  I remember deer hunting in the snow one season and a black spot caught my eye on the underside of my blaze orange hunting cap bill.  It was a tiny deer tick.  Hardy bastards.

Ditto the tick medicine on dogs.  Dog had a cancer grow from the point of application along the spine.  I don't remember what brand it was, but we don't use any of it anymore.
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Agreed,my first golden,not a fancy bloodline,just came from a farm,couple of rabie shots over the years and a old time flea collar lived 15 + good years,today with all the meds/vacines maybe 10-12 good years "maybe",so many stories about topical tick meds and the bad effects of tick vacines being bad.

[glenn57]

The tick and flea stuff the vet just gave us is in a pill form. I got 1 more application of the liquid for the sheltie and she's a spry 74 human years old.

[snow1]

So glenn how are thing's with shadow and the sheltie? gotta think shadow is pestering the shete out of her...

[glenn57]

So glenn how are thing's with shadow and the sheltie? gotta think shadow is pestering the shete out of her...

yea it was terrible at first!!!!!! slowly getting better..........way to slow  the sheltie likes to instigate things once in a while and when shadow wants to play like puppy full speed ahead the sheltie growls at him.

but they do play nice occasionally.

[mike89]

So glenn how are thing's with shadow and the sheltie? gotta think shadow is pestering the shete out of her...

yea it was terrible at first!!!!!! slowly getting better..........way to slow  the sheltie likes to instigate things once in a while and when shadow wants to play like puppy full speed ahead the sheltie growls at him.

but they do play nice occasionally.

you talking about the dog or you????   had to ask!!!   

[glenn57]