I'm calm. I would actually like to purchase one but I tend to over research things. I believe the things I'm stating are real issues but maybe not. YouTube 3.0 duramax long crank issue, it doesn't seem to be a bunch of competitors trying to bad mouth. One of the videos even shows the teardown and the broken part. I'm also well aware every company tries to cut corners where they can. If someone orders a new truck are you guys charging MSRP on trucks?
Again this updated powertrain hasn't hit the dealers yet is what I'm saying,most often anything new in our automotive industry has issues even tho month's of proto types on the street....you should see the nightmares 2020 year chevrolets new mid engine corvette,today 2022 all ironed out.
Today all dealers get sticker price due to lack of inventory less any factory incentives,I've checked smaller mom n pop type dealers getting over sticker,also had word that a certain dealership up north charges $2k extra to customers w/o a trade purchasing a truck,also extra charge iffin vehicle buyers don't finance thru dealer,have not confirmed this but wouldn't surprise me,bottom line general unless your in a need need new vehicle now I would wait until 2023 when hopefully things get back to normal,...but dealers nation wide are struggling all makes and are on the excutives big time,both new and used,this effects the repair shops as well,nothing to sell no warrenty or repair money coming in,just a shete show for all dealers
Glad to hear they got the vette figured out in a couple years. I honestly say this with zero disrespect as the guys around here who know me know I have zero bias on vehicles and have owned all of the big three and I’m sure will again. But GM has yet to figure out the 5.3 since it was wrecked when AFM was introduced in 07. It along with the 6.2 has another class action lawsuit. Listed......
But the GM class action lawsuit alleges the lifters malfunction and prematurely fail because of multiple reasons.
The lifters (including the locking pin) allegedly do not conform to design specifications, are installed in an incorrect position in the lifter guide and/or are made of
sub-standard materials.GM also allegedly didn't consider the expansion and contraction rates of the lifters and the engine block, and the bores in which the lifters are inserted have widths that allegedly do not allow for the necessary clearance of the lifter to move freely, which damages the lifters.
A GM lifter recall should also allegedly be ordered because the automaker allegedly "failed to account for the amount of increased pressure to which the AFM lifters are exposed by the pressurized oil used to operate the lifters, causing them to fail prematurely."
The plaintiffs further claim more valve train maintenance is needed, more than is advised in GM's maintenance guides.
This allegedly includes, "more frequent oil changes, engine flushing and cleaning and/or replacing the valve lifter oil manifold and its filter at regular intervals."
According to the class action lawsuit,
GM allegedly replaces the defective parts with equally defective parts that continue to fail and cause a ticking noise from the engine. Additionally, the lifter problems can cause the vehicle to lose power, "hesitate, and the engine can misfire, stall, shudder, stutter, or surge."
So yes I really hope GM will fix whatever issue the little diesel has but even if they don’t it still might not stop me from buying it because in 3 years it will be someone else problem not mine and warranty would cover any issue I had. I also know every other brand has their issues too. I was thinking about getting the little ram diesel before I bought my current 2019 but they didn’t offer it in the new body style and it had a bunch of issues as well. Ram also has the lifter tick in the 5.7 hemi that sounds like is caused by an inferior oil pump and too much idling and the fix is as simple as putting in a better pump. Which they already have in the bigger hemi so it would be so easy to add but hey if they can save $10 on every oil pump and sell 1 million vehicles that’s 10million profit. Who really cares about the customer.
I obviously don’t need need a new vehicle and haven’t even done much checking on prices but one would think that if a dealer is going to sell a truck today at MSRP or above that they would have sold 1 or 2 years ago at $10,000 off sticker price that just means that my trade in is worth $10,000 more too. So it should be a wash.
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