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Offline snow1

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With all the uneasy beating of "war drums" these days and what appears to be a unhindged russian dictator threatening nukes,has anyone here thought about the "what if's",I remember as a child being in school  in the 50's having air raid drills and school fire drills,wonder if this happens today? air raid drills was during the cuban missile crisis situation our country was on alert 24/7 for a cuban atomic missile launch.

But today these nukes are 10x stronger,our world will be toast as we know it if someone pulls the trigger...I hear talk of folks having "bunkers" loaded with supplies....then what when supplies run out?

Already people in ukraine have emptied the shelves of "iodine pills" with putin shelling country nuke plants,the world /europe is on edge for nuclear fall out like years ago in chernbyl only this would be 10x worse.Guess not much we can do except live our lives today,if it happens....

Just talking out loud,crazy times.

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I remember the Sisters of St Francis having us get down on our knees and pray during the missile crisis. It might seem crazy to some but I believe it is the best thing we can do.

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I remember being taught to get under our desks and cover my head. Today I'll grab a beer, sit in the recliner and wait for the flash.

Much like governing ourselves everything is out of our hands.
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I remember the Sisters of St Francis having us get down on our knees and pray during the missile crisis. It might seem crazy to some but I believe it is the best thing we can do.
Amen.  There were many factors that came together to bring down the Iron Curtain in the 80s.  Prayer was not the least of them.

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Yah, I do think about it, but also try to just keep living our lives. Scary to think about it to much. That and we have really no control over it. Wish someone had the balls to sneak up behind little judo man and give him a dirt nap. But like Dutchy said if it does happen the wife and I will crack a beer and wait for it too. Might even shotgun the first beer.   :nerd:
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Meh, I've been figuring out shutting off the news and reading a book then hearing all the gloom and doom. Hell I read it here!!🤭  :rolleyes:

I'm finding out having my head buried in the sand is less worry some!! :happy1: :rotflmao:

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Offline snow1

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Interesting take guyz,feeling is mutual,friends in north central north dakota are really on edge,with two massive military air bases,missile silo's two major damns as first targets.

Not much any of us can do about the inevitable iffin the SHTF.

Somehow something tells me the U.S will get sucked into this conflict,starting with these poland fighters mig29's...putin warns of retaliation,but will we listen?

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I can't even run across the border to Canada, I haven't been jabbed.  Guess i'll have to stay here and take my chances.
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Can't worry about what I can't control. Liquor cabinet is in good shape. There are 80-some odd lives directly depending on me. One day at a time.   
Time itself is bought and sold, the spreading fear of growing old contains a thousand foolish games that we play. (Neil Young)

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Can't worry about what I can't control. Liquor cabinet is in good shape. There are 80-some odd lives directly depending on me. One day at a time.

Good call Dotch,I might start drinking again iffin the SHTF ,your pics of T n T gets my taste buds goin,might even stock up on cottage cheese,as the smurfy won't touch the stuff.

Just incase a good read~


THE NUCLEAR ENVIRONMENT





23-1. Prepare yourself to survive in a nuclear environment. Make sure you know what to expect and how to react to a nuclear hazard.
EFFECTS OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS
23-2. The effects of nuclear weapons are classified as either initial or residual. Initial effects occur in the immediate area of the explosion and are hazardous in the first minute after the explosion. Residual effects can last for days or years and cause death. The principal initial effects are blast and radiation.
Blast
23-3. Blast is the brief and rapid movement of air away from the explosion's center and the pressure accompanying this movement. Strong winds accompany the blast. Blast hurls debris and personnel, collapses lungs, ruptures eardrums, collapses structures and positions, and causes immediate death or injury with its crushing effect.
Thermal Radiation
23-4. This effect is the heat and light radiation a nuclear explosion's fireball emits. Light radiation consists of both visible light and ultraviolet and infrared light. Thermal radiation produces extensive fires, skin burns, and flash blindness.
Nuclear Radiation
23-5. Nuclear radiation breaks down into two categories. The effects can be initial radiation and residual radiation.
23-6. Initial nuclear radiation consists of intense gamma rays and neutrons produced during the first minute after the explosion. This radiation causes extensive damage to cells throughout the body. Radiation damage may cause headaches, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and even death, depending on the radiation dose received. The major problem in protecting yourself against the initial radiation's effects is that you may have received a lethal or incapacitating dose before taking any protective action. Personnel exposed to lethal amounts of initial radiation may well have been killed or fatally injured by blast or thermal radiation.
23-7. Residual radiation consists of all radiation produced after 1 minute from the explosion. It has more effect on you than initial radiation. A discussion of residual radiation takes place in a subsequent paragraph.
TYPES OF NUCLEAR BURSTS
23-8. There are three types of nuclear bursts: subsurface burst, airburst, and surface burst. The type of burst directly affects your chances of survival. A subsurface burst occurs completely underground or underwater. Its effects remain beneath the surface or in the immediate area where the surface collapses into a crater over the burst's location. Subsurface bursts cause you little or no radioactive hazard unless you enter the immediate area of the crater.
23-9. An airburst occurs in the air above its intended target. The airburst provides the maximum radiation effect on the target and is, therefore, most dangerous to you in terms of immediate nuclear effects.
23-10. A surface burst occurs on the ground or water surface. Large amounts of fallout result, with serious long-term effects for you. This type of burst is your greatest nuclear hazard.
NUCLEAR INJURIES
23-11. Most injuries in the nuclear environment result from the initial nuclear effects of the detonation. These injuries are classed as blast, thermal, or radiation injuries. Further radiation injuries may occur if you do not take proper precautions against fallout. Individuals in the area near a nuclear explosion will probably suffer a combination of all three types of injuries.
Blast Injuries
23-12. Blast injuries produced by nuclear weapons are similar to those caused by conventional high-explosive weapons. Blast overpressure can collapse lungs and rupture internal organs. Projectile wounds occur as the explosion's force hurls debris at you. Large pieces of debris striking you will cause fractured limbs or massive internal injuries. Blast overpressure may throw you long distances, and you will suffer severe injury upon impact with the ground or other objects. Substantial cover and distance from the explosion are the best protection against blast injury. Cover blast injury wounds as soon as possible to prevent the entry of radioactive dust particles.
Thermal Injuries
23-13. The heat and light the nuclear fireball emits cause thermal injuries. First-, second-, or third-degree burns may result. Flash blindness also occurs. This blindness may be permanent or temporary depending on the degree of exposure of the eyes. Substantial cover and distance from the explosion can prevent thermal injuries. Clothing will provide significant protection against thermal injuries. Cover as much exposed skin as possible before a nuclear explosion. First aid for thermal injuries is the same as first aid for burns. Cover open burns (second- or third-degree) to prevent the entry of radioactive particles. Wash all burns before covering.
Radiation Injuries
23-14. Neutrons, gamma radiation, alpha radiation, and beta radiation cause radiation injuries. Neutrons are high-speed, extremely penetrating particles that actually smash cells within your body. Gamma radiation is similar to X rays and is also highly penetrating radiation. During the initial fireball stage of a nuclear detonation, initial gamma radiation and neutrons are the most serious threat. Beta and alpha radiation are radioactive particles normally associated with radioactive dust from fallout. They are short-range particles. You can easily protect yourself against them if you take precautions. See "Bodily Reactions to Radiation," below, for the symptoms of radiation injuries.
RESIDUAL RADIATION
23-15. Residual radiation is all radiation emitted after 1 minute from the instant of the nuclear explosion. Residual radiation consists of induced radiation and fallout.
Induced Radiation
23-16. This term describes a relatively small, intensely radioactive area directly underneath the nuclear weapon's fireball. The irradiated earth in this area will remain highly radioactive for an extremely long time. You should not travel into an area of induced radiation.
Fallout
23-17. Fallout consists of radioactive soil and water particles, as well as weapon fragments. During a surface detonation, or if an airburst's nuclear fireball touches the ground, large amounts of soil and water are vaporized along with the bomb's fragments, and forced upward to altitudes of 25,000 meters (82,000 feet) or more. When these vaporized contents cool, they can form more than 200 different radioactive products. The vaporized bomb contents condense into tiny radioactive particles that the wind carries until they fall back to earth as radioactive dust. Fallout particles emit alpha, beta, and gamma radiation. Alpha and beta radiation are relatively easy to counteract, and residual gamma radiation is much less intense

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I can only try to control my little corner of the world. I concentrate on making sure bills get paid (not much debt) and getting ready for open water fishing.
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 :pouty: I wish we could get some snow melt going on up north so I could make one more ice fishing trip. :pouty: :smoking: :rolleyes:
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Always thinking of yourself glenn in time of world need...sheeeesh
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Always thinking of yourself glenn in time of world need...sheeeesh
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: damn straight. Glenn NEEDS a trip to the cabin soon.

Screw the world. We need a few politicians to grow a pair and do what's right for this country.  :happy1: effin idiots... ALL OF THEM!
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Offline snow1

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I remember the Sisters of St Francis having us get down on our knees and pray during the missile crisis. It might seem crazy to some but I believe it is the best thing we can do.

Agreed roony....and every morning we stood a recited the pledge of allegence.We were taught at this young age to respect our elders with a firm hand when needed...including respecting our teachers unlike today,we have children having children,lack of parenting in alot of cases,sad times.

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Always thinking of yourself glenn in time of world need...sheeeesh
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: damn straight. Glenn NEEDS a trip to the cabin soon.

Screw the world. We need a few politicians to grow a pair and do what's right for this country.  :happy1: effin idiots... ALL OF THEM!
Now you know who you are talking about right???  ;)  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: He certainly put America 1st!
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Always thinking of yourself glenn in time of world need...sheeeesh
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: damn straight. Glenn NEEDS a trip to the cabin soon.

Screw the world. We need a few politicians to grow a pair and do what's right for this country.  :happy1: effin idiots... ALL OF THEM!
Now you know who you are talking about right???  ;)  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: He certainly put America 1st!
:tut: :tut: its not only him.....its all of washington and here in minnesota to!!!!!! :happy1:
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I saw that Walz's administrations creative accounting has a $9.3 billion tax surplus. They are falling all over themselves to spend it rather than wait and actually see what they have.

With all the businesses that are going under and lack of tax revenue being collected added to all the money Walz gave away, it makes you wonder why millions of people aren't flocking to this state.

My suggestion is pull some CASH from the bank, stock up on some dry goods and get some cans of gas. This could be something this country hasn't seen since the mid 1920's.
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I saw that Walz's administrations creative accounting has a $9.3 billion tax surplus. They are falling all over themselves to spend it rather than wait and actually see what they have.

With all the businesses that are going under and lack of tax revenue being collected added to all the money Walz gave away, it makes you wonder why millions of people aren't flocking to this state.

My suggestion is pull some CASH from the bank, stock up on some dry goods and get some cans of gas. This could be something this country hasn't seen since the mid 1920's.

One would think if walz really gave a shete,we over paying tax minons would get our money back...But oh noooo,they'll piss it away....

Good call dutch,guns n ammo,all set,generator all set....plenty of back up supplies but is it ever enough?

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I saw that Walz's administrations creative accounting has a $9.3 billion tax surplus. They are falling all over themselves to spend it rather than wait and actually see what they have.

With all the businesses that are going under and lack of tax revenue being collected added to all the money Walz gave away, it makes you wonder why millions of people aren't flocking to this state.

My suggestion is pull some CASH from the bank, stock up on some dry goods and get some cans of gas. This could be something this country hasn't seen since the mid 1920's.

One would think if walz really gave a shete,we over paying tax minons would get our money back...But oh noooo,they'll piss it away....

Good call dutch,guns n ammo,all set,generator all set....plenty of back up supplies but is it ever enough?

If they do give it back it will need to be spread to ALL, even those who haven't paid a dime in. I am willing to bet a hundo that when it's all said & done we will be asked to support a tax increase to cover a proposed shortfall. Honestly, it never ends with these guys. (both colors) A reminder for those storing gas, buy non ethanol it will last longer for your generators should you need them.
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WWIII will happen but if it's any conclusions for those that believe.  The Bible talks about the battle of Armageddon taking place in a valley in the middle east when the nations of the world come against Israel. So this might not yet be the time?     

"The Bible says the battle of Armageddon will occur at the end of the seven year tribulation period. All the nations of the world will be gathered in an attempt to defeat and destroy the Jews and the city of Jerusalem, the capital of Israel. The battle of Armageddon described in Ezekiel 38-39 will occur at this time." 







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I won't sit here and say the bible is wrong, however Israel doesn't play in the same league as the Russians, Nato & United States. If nukes start getting lobbed around there won't be anyone left to say if the bible was right or wrong.
Best to do our praying before things get further out of hand.
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I won't sit here and say the bible is wrong, however Israel doesn't play in the same league as the Russians, Nato & United States. If nukes start getting lobbed around there won't be anyone left to say if the bible was right or wrong.
Best to do our praying before things get further out of hand.

I did say for those that believe. 
Probably why it will become the burensome stone.  Yep, its not in the big players league, but many nation's already are stacked against it.
 

Zechariah 12:3,9. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
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Funny thing about predicting "the end of the world" based on biblical prophesy...

Everyone who has done so in the past 2000 years has been wrong!  :doah:  But sooner or later, if we keep doin' it, eventually someone is going to be right.    ;)

Still, I reckon "my" end-of-the-world will come long before "the stars fall from the sky."  Best keep my eyes on my own bobber.

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Funny thing about predicting "the end of the world" based on biblical prophesy...

Everyone who has done so in the past 2000 years has been wrong!  :doah:  But sooner or later, if we keep doin' it, eventually someone is going to be right.    ;)

Still, I reckon "my" end-of-the-world will come long before "the stars fall from the sky."  Best keep my eyes on my own bobber.
Yeah, well it's not my prediction just passing it along, and I'm a bit to insignificant to tell a Creator when he wants to end the game?   ;)
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