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Offline Robbo17

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Changes to fish house rules during the close of the 2007 Legislative session will greet anglers in Minnesota this ice fishing season, particularly those leaving such structures unattended on the ice overnight. The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR) expects the changes to generate some questions since the 2007 Fishing Regulations Handbook does not reflect the new statute language.

Col. Mike Hamm, DNR’s chief conservation officer, said the changes are pretty straightforward. “If you haul a fish house out and leave it unattended on the ice overnight, it needs a fish house license,” Hamm said. The rule change applies to both dark houses and fish houses.

The legal definition for a “fish house” means a structure set on the ice of state waters to provide shelter while taking fish by angling.

For a fish house or a dark house to require a shelter license, it has to be left unattended on the ice overnight and used for taking fish. “Overnight” is defined as the hours between sunset and sunrise outlined in the DNR’s sunrise/sunset tables in the 2007 Fishing Regulations Handbook.

Also under new provisions of the statute, residents and nonresidents are treated the same. This means in most cases a nonresident using a fish house during daylight hours will not need a fish house license. Likewise, if a nonresident angler is found occupying a fish house during the night, no fish house license will be required. However, if a nonresident places a fish house on a lake and leaves it unattended overnight, a nonresident shelter license will be required.

“For the 2007-2008 winter season, residents and nonresidents will need the appropriate fish house license only if the fish house is left unattended on the ice overnight,” Hamm said.

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Question: Resident or nonresident is angling with a fish house for five hours during the day. Person leaves ice with the fish house. Does angler need a fish house license?

Answer: No. A fish house license is not required in this instance.

Question: Resident or nonresident angler stays overnight in a fish house. Does person need a fish house license?

Answer: No. A fish house license is not required in this instance, as long as the fish house is occupied.

Question: Resident or nonresident angler leaves fish house unoccupied on an area lake overnight in front of the resort angler is staying at. Does the fish house require a fish house license?

Answer: Yes. A fish house license would be required in this instance. Anytime the fish house is left unattended overnight, a fish house license is required.

Question: A group of (resident or nonresident) anglers pulls a fish house on the ice for a weekend of ice fishing. The fish house is designed with a wheel system that allows for easy access and removal from the lake. The anglers stay in the house and never leave it unoccupied during the course of the weekend. Does the fish house require a license?

Answer: No. A fish house license is not required as long as the fish house is attended. This includes daylight, as well as nighttime use.

Question: A group of anglers (resident or nonresident) anglers constructs an 8- by - 8- by 12-foot fish house on a local lake. Regularly the group, or members of the group, will meet at the fish house after work to fish. By 9 p.m. they’ve all left and return the following day at 5 p.m. for more fun. Does this fish house require a license?

Answer: Yes. Depending on who owns the fish house, a resident or a nonresident fish house license would be required.

The following regulations apply to fish houses, dark houses and portable shelters used on all Minnesota waters, unless noted in the 2007 Minnesota Fishing Regulations Handbook.

- A person may not take fish from a dark house or fish house that is left unattended on
the ice overnight unless the house is licensed and has a license tag attached to the
exterior in a readily visible location. The commissioner must issue a tag with a dark
house or fish house license, marked with a number to correspond with the license
and the years of issue. A dark house or fishing house is not required of a resident on
boundary waters where the adjacent state does not charge a fee for the same activity.

- Nonresidents may obtain a license for a fish shelter.

- All shelters (including dark houses, fish houses and portable shelters) placed on the
ice of Minnesota waters must have either the complete name and address, driver’s
license number, or the nine-digit Minnesota DNR number on the license of
the owner plainly and legibly displayed on the outside in letters, and figures at least
two inches in height.

- A tag, furnished with the license, must be attached to the exterior in a readily visible location.

- Dark houses, fish houses and portable shelters must have a door that can be opened from the outside at any time when in use.

- Fish houses left on the ice overnight need to have at least two square inches of
reflective material on each side of the house.

- Fish houses must comply with the identification requirements of the state for which
the angler is licensed.

- No person may erect a dark house, fish house or shelter within 10 feet of an existing
dark house, fish house or shelter.

- Portable dark houses, fish houses and shelters may be used for fishing within the
Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness (BWCAW), but must be removed from the
ice each night. The structure must be removed from the BWCAW each time the
occupant leaves the BWCAW.

Offline jigglestick

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jesus christ, you spect us to read all that...and NO pictures??!!
take a kid hunting and fishing!!

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Offline Robbo17

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hey, Its the DNR, If they put pictures with the rules everybody would understand them.

Offline thunderpout

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Thanx Robbo! I wonder if I'd still need a license for my ultrashack (crank down trailer) if I use it as base camp on a lake while Im buzzin around in my fishtrap on the same lake?     -thunderpout :happy1:

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If you are dropping it down during the day you are fine. But if you left the house unattended anytime during nighttime hours you would be ticketed. From what I have read. Try it and give me a post back. Thanks in advance.
Robbo

Offline Spinach

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My interpretation of the last question is different than Robbo17's. The way I understand the rule is even during daylight hours you will need a fish house licens if you are not inside. So if you are using it as a basecamp and its on the ice, and you are out in your portable, you will need a license.

I copied this from the above regulations....

Question: A group of (resident or nonresident) anglers pulls a fish house on the ice for a weekend of ice fishing. The fish house is designed with a wheel system that allows for easy access and removal from the lake. The anglers stay in the house and never leave it unoccupied during the course of the weekend. Does the fish house require a license?

Answer: No. A fish house license is not required as long as the fish house is attended. This includes daylight, as well as nighttime use.
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funny, last year and years before, you only needed the tag on the house if you were in it.
leave it to the dnr to screw it all around. I think it's part of the strategy to make things confusing so they can ticket people, creating much needed revenue.
why dont they just require a tag for every damn house on the ice, whether your in it or not.
they're gonna get the money one way or the other.
take a kid hunting and fishing!!

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Offline MulletvilleSprtsmn

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 :police:After paying for a improperly marked shack once at $90.00 :banghead:, I'll continue to pay the shack fee (17.00). It's a might bit better than the unlicensed fine of $300.00 they can charge. Any it doesnt riun the day of fishing either. :fishing: Brandon
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Offline getdowndawgg

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Question: If you have a portable that you never leave unattended do you have to put your name
address or license # on it while fishing.

Offline Robbo17

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I would have to say yes to this one, even though they don't need a license, all shelters need identification on them. It states that in the DNR press release in my first post above.  It is about the middle of the post.

Hope it Helps

Robbo

Offline Spinach

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Confusing isn't it?

Yes, you will need to have your identification on the shelter.
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Offline cat700

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thunderpout, I'd say if you leave your wheelhouse on the lake while you run and gun with the portable during the day, you're fine. if it is at night, you'll need the shelter tag. the rules state "unattended overnight" "overnight is defined as hours between sunset and sunrise"

my interpretation of it, I'm certainly no lawyer. but if I was running with the portable and got a ticket for leaving my wheelhouse DURING THE DAY, I'd certainly fight the ticket in court based on the current language of the statute.
« Last Edit: November 11/25/07, 08:48:53 PM by cat700 »

Offline sunk1

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I'm going to just buy the tag and not have to worry about it. That way if I run for beverages, I wont get taged.

Offline rchaze60

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just another way for the DNR to screw things up again like they have enuff COs to go around and check every house on the ice lol

Offline Spinach

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My shelter license is still valid until the end of February from last year, so, I'll just keep using it. Maybe by then, it will be more clear on the new regs.
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Offline Robbo17

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For what its worth I emailed the DNR about this and this is the reply I got

No it does not. Only those left unattended over night need to be licensed. All houses still need the ID on them at all times on the ice, and reflectors if on the ice after dark. Kevin

There is a guestion going around about the new regulation regarding the license of a fish house. 
If I fish Walleyes at night, arriving at my fish house before sunset and staying at my fish house until after sunrise. I leave the house unoccuppied only during daylight hours, does this house need a license?

Thank you
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Thanks for clearing that question up Robbo, It sure would make it easier on everyone if they would of just left out the comment about daylight hours in the question/answer area.

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Offline JohnWester

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this sounds like a Monty Python sketch...

"Right, I am not to have a license unless I am in the house unless I am not in the house but it's after dark, but only if I am fishing out of it and it has wheels, but not during the day unless I am out of it going to the liquor store to load up, but for sure if it is on the ice after dark." :bonk:
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Offline Robbo17

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It seems pretty simple to me. If you leave your house out all the time, buy a license.
If you only bring your house out to the lake when you fish, don't buy a license.
IF you want to run for beer or bait during the day, go. But, if you go at night have a license on the house.

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It seems pretty simple to me. If you leave your house out all the time, buy a license.
If you only bring your house out to the lake when you fish, don't buy a license.
IF you want to run for beer or bait during the day, go. But, if you go at night have a license on the house.

Robbo


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If you left your dog in the house at night to go on a beer run would that be considered an attended fish house? :bonk:
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Offline GRIZ

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Good point general.

I think you should test that one out for us this winter. I'd donate 20 bucks for court fees if ya took it to jury trial. ;D
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I'm just glad I don't need to buy a license for my portables anymore. :toast:
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