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Fishing Forums => Fishing gear-Electronics-Boats-GPS and everything else => Topic started by: glenn57 on June 06/22/21, 09:32:54 AM
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OK i stole this idea from IDO. some guy posted over there about hummingbird locators, and some have added to it. they talked about how bad hummingbirds customer service is and how many of there locators dont work. this was the guys first post over there too so has me a bit sceptical!!!!!!!!
after using by buddies locator, yea he made me drive his boat, he knows i can catch fish :nerd: :nerd: i was totally impressed with his HB helix 7 and plan on putting one on my boat next year.
so what do you guys run for locators, AND have you heard anything bad about HB locators!!!!!!!
my buddy is going to sell me his lake chip for $60.00. his wife ordered him the new and improved one, apparently that one has LOTW, red, and another lake.....cant remember which one where the one i'm getting doesnt. no biggy to me!!!!!!
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I have always ran Lowrance in my boats. In the new boat I ended up going with the Hummingbird Helix 9 so we shall see. I went with that since the boat already had a helix 9 mounted in the bow from the factory. So now I have some learning to do. I have not heard any bad about them. If you get the helix 7 you could also set it up for ice fishing to I would think.
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never had a lake chip before and loved being able to see drop offs, points and other structure on the lake. i was impressed with how many lakes that was there, we dont exactly hit popular lakes. all i want in locator is to be able to read the depth and now the lake contour!!! i could care less about anything else really.
winter fishing.............i already have a marcum and a marcum underwater camera!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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glenn....for what it's worth,maybe IDO poster is confused? many issues with lowrance/customer service to date,pre fishing with a friend doing the walleye A.I.M tour had lowrance as a sponsor for years,he told me if it wasn't for lowrance having factory personnel at these tourny's to trouble shoot display issues(mostly the updates) he would be SOL now he's on board with hummingbird claims bird is the word these days,suggest the 7si for you to consider,bigger the screen the better,but I remember your boat is a 14'er so the 7si should be perfect.
goodluck...helping a friend purchase a helix couple months ago pickens were slim availability issues but maybe things are better now,come late summer most sport shops are sold out of product going in to winter so pull the trigger soon if supply is good in your area.
PS,lake master mapping data might be the best and is paired with hummingbird,a new lakemaster sd card new run's about $100 $60 for a outdated card seems a bit much but your call.
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snow, my boats a 16 ft lund 1600 stinger.
runnings had all kinds of hummingbird locators last week when i was in there. i thought of a helix 5 but decided to do it right and get the 7 right away instead of wishing....... but damn ther's 300 bucks difference in the 5 to the 7. :doah: :doah: :doofus:
that lake chip he's selling me was installed in his new boat last year!!!!!
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Oh my bad,I thought you had a 14'er with a 15 hp o/b,hell a 16'er bump up to the 9...last year chip is good,years ago when I got onboard with lakemaster(before we had sd cards) I bought they're (lakemaster) cd rom and down loaded they're program on my laptop as we traveled to remote area lakes to fish,transferred waypoints to gps via usb cable,mostly in the winter.I had a few program hiccups back then,but the owner of lakemaster (mike woods) told me his goal was to map all of minnesota lakes with public accesses,he sold his mapping data at the time by regions,totally modified today but lakemaster was the pioneer at the time,my focus lakes were mille lacs in 1' contours and URL which was in 5' contours which didn't matter as no structure except for middle bar and the crappie cribs they had marked
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There is a 14 ft boat with a 15 horse merc at our cabin available for use. Its my stepdads, but said it's staying at the cabin.
I posted a picture a while back with it tied up to the dock. Might be where you got the idea from. :scratch:
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There is a 14 ft boat with a 15 horse merc at our cabin available for use. Its my stepdads, but said it's staying at the cabin.
I posted a picture a while back with it tied up to the dock. Might be where you got the idea from. :scratch:
I remember now,it was a video of a guy power loading his 12 or 14' boat with a manuel o/b in the back of his cargo van,I labeled it "glenn"...lol a while back on your thread about loading your boat on your trailer,something about replacing your trailer winch rope.
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I have a Helix 10 in the back of my boat and just got a Helix 7 ice unit. Came with two transducers and a case for ice fishing. Nice to have the maps in winter. I bought a Lakemaster chip 9.0, which is the most updated one, and it was $125. The ice unit was $800 but can be used year around so that was nice. The only problem is in winter it is slow to read if you want to just keep checking holes, other than that it's great. The 10 has side imaging which I still haven't figured out but I'm slowly getting into all the settings as there is a ton to figure out. The more I use it the more I like it. There are updates now and then which you can download off a smart phone, which I don't have, buy my son in law is a programmer so he does all of them for me. Buy the best as I hear those union guys made big bucks. :happy1:
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I have a Lowrance Hook Reveal 7 Triple Shot on my new boat. Love it and was easy to learn how to use. Has down imaging and side imaging. That is really cool. Has all of the lakes that I will ever be at already loaded in it or a chip in it.
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I have a Helix 10 in the back of my boat and just got a Helix 7 ice unit. Came with two transducers and a case for ice fishing. Nice to have the maps in winter. I bought a Lakemaster chip 9.0, which is the most updated one, and it was $125. The ice unit was $800 but can be used year around so that was nice. The only problem is in winter it is slow to read if you want to just keep checking holes, other than that it's great. The 10 has side imaging which I still haven't figured out but I'm slowly getting into all the settings as there is a ton to figure out. The more I use it the more I like it. There are updates now and then which you can download off a smart phone, which I don't have, buy my son in law is a programmer so he does all of them for me. Buy the best as I hear those union guys made big bucks. :happy1:
:happy1: that helix 10 must get good for finding cold beer!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Lowrance here, but I don't think you can go wrong with either. :happy1:
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A Lowrance HDS 7 is on my dash & we have a Hook 7 on the bow. We have the Navionocs regional chip that has URL, LOW, Winnie,..............................everything in this area in 1' contours.
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Lowrance went belly up & is now owned by Navico. They're a European company that has been doing salt water electronics for a real long time. The 5 pin blue connector on the Lowrance(~2005) had major issues & their CS sucked, that was the 1 of the leading causes of their bankruptcy is what I've read.
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A Lowrance HPS 7 is on my dash & we have a Hook 7 on the bow. We have the Navionocs regional chip that has URL, LOW, Winnie,..............................everything in this area in 1' contours.
i'd be cool with 1' contours. :happy1:
i talked to my buddy the other day, now i'm not sure if he is going to charge me 60 bucks or give it to me?????? but at 60 bucks, i'm buying. not sure if that chip has winnie on it or not??? i'm buying an older hummingbird locator for my stepdads boat that the chip will work in, going to put it in there until i get a new locator for my boat. the lakes i plan to hit with the stepdads boat i know well enough i wont need the chip, so no need for 2 chips!
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Lots of older chips out there as people update, not too hard to find a usable older 1 for < $50, if you wanted.
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A Lowrance HPS 7 is on my dash & we have a Hook 7 on the bow. We have the Navionocs regional chip that has URL, LOW, Winnie,..............................everything in this area in 1' contours.
i'd be cool with 1' contours. :happy1:
i talked to my buddy the other day, now i'm not sure if he is going to charge me 60 bucks or give it to me?????? but at 60 bucks, i'm buying. not sure if that chip has winnie on it or not??? i'm buying an older hummingbird locator for my stepdads boat that the chip will work in, going to put it in there until i get a new locator for my boat. the lakes i plan to hit with the stepdads boat i know well enough i wont need the chip, so no need for 2 chips!
glenn,you'll have winni in 1' contours,cutfoot souix as well.
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Lowrance Elite 12 TI2 on the front and Lowrance Elite 9 TI2 at the console. These along with a Lowrance Ghost trolling motor are connected together via a NMEA 2000 network. All units talk to each other and either unit can control the Ghost trolling motor. Once I got things setup this spring I haven't had any issues.
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Jeez, guys. I just look for boats that have big fish finders and anchor 20 yards off their bow. :rotflmao:
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Had to look, ours is actually the Lake Insight Pro V16 chip. Over 9000 lakes including 3000 with 1-3' contours as well as all of the lower 48 states on 1 card is what the box says.
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I have a similar setup to deadeye only Garmin. I have on the bow the Echomap UHD 93sv and on the console the Echomap ultra 106sv. Also, I have the Garmin Force trolling motor. All units are networked together.
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OK.......thinkin about upgrading my boat locator!!!!!! looking at a hummingbird with lake chip abilities. i just got back from Scheels. the 7 inch screen would be nice, but i dont think i want down or side imaging........that leaves me for the most part with the 5 inch screen.
my question.....do any of you have the down imaging? is it worth the extra 400 bucks to have that and the 7 inch screen?????? i just dont see the need for either imaging. :scratch: :scratch:
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There are several things to look at. 5 vs 7. The 5 is a very small screen. When running mapping in rough water it's tough to see. Also very hard to split the screen to run mapping and sonar. Often times I am looking for a spot on a spot. This might be a small gravel hole just a foot deeper or a small hump.
By splitting the screen you can see this on sonar and see where you are at on the map. Sonar will tell you how hard the spot on a spot is.
Side imaging is awesome when you see what is surrounding you. Do you have rocks on the bottom where FIS are hiding? Do you have spooky fish that you can't get over the top of?
If you want to know how deep the water is the 5 will tell you that. Can you see much more...not really.
Is the 7 worth $400 more...in my opinion yes. All depends on how much you rely on your electronics as a fish finding tool.
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I like knowing the depth first, but when I used my buddies that had the gps/lake chip knowing the lay of the lake ahead of me was awesome. It's all I really need. Or want. I can find fish!! :sleazy:
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Don't need much to fish those saber toothed snot rockets.
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I like knowing the depth first, but when I used my buddies that had the gps/lake chip knowing the lay of the lake ahead of me was awesome. It's all I really need. Or want. I can find fish!! :sleazy:
I just threw up.
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Absolutely worth it to go for the 7" screen in my book. What is $400 extra? You spend it and it is gone and you have a nice 7" screen that is fun to watch forever. You will never regret it.
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What model did you look at, glenn? :scratch: We have 2-7" Lowrance units on our boat, 1 on the bow & the other on the dash. With the zebra mussels here, the water can be really clear early season, so the fish are often pretty spooky. So, I've went to using my SideScan mode a lot more as conventional sonar where you go over top of them seems to spook them at times. The SideScan/SideImaging requires a 2nd, longer transducer which costs ~ $200 to replace, & that is part of the reason those units cost more. We've had ours 5-6 years now & I've found myself using the DownScan more the last couple seasons too.
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I have a Lowrance too. Must be just like Gunners. Like it. Hummingbirds are great too.
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It's a HDS-7 Gen3 on the dash & a Hook2-7 on the bow.
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Spend the extra money Glenn. You will be glad you did. I had Lawrence 7" on my old boat and liked that one. I have Helix 9 on the nes boat and really like that too. I am starting to use the side imaging some. You will start to use it if you have it.
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Make sure you are getting at least a gen3 or a gen4 is even better. In the last few years I have found myself using sidescan a lot more. I run Helix 9s. One is a gen 3 and the other two are gen4. The side imaging on the gen4 is much more defined.
I can find fish too!!!!!
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Cabelas has a sale on right now that has some of the 7s and 5s at the same price with free shipping.
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i'm thinkin guys!!!!!! :surrender: :surrender: :rotflmao: the last 24 hours thinkin i'll pass!!!!
if i do anything it might me the down imaging....and yea if i do pull the string it be the 7!!!!
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Cabelas has a sale on right now that has some of the 7s and 5s at the same price with free shipping.
Scenic did you happen to check how long this sale is going on for????/
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glenn-
It's been a while since I've searched for new sonar but from what I remember back when I was looking, Down Imaging (DI) is actually not that good...in fact, per my research, traditional 2D sonar was much better (much larger cone/view area). The problem with DI is that the cone (or lack thereof) is actually pathetically small compared to traditional 2D. The "only" thing DI gives is a pretty little pic of what's down there. To me, DI is all just a marketing scam. Learning to read 2D will be much more beneficial.
I'd spend (your money) on a much better 2D sonar with larger screen with no DI or get one with Side Imaging (SI). SI is very impressive and actually extremely beneficial for all types of fishing. I found soooo much structure with SI. It's absolutely fantastic for finding structure for walleyes and smallies, and great for finding schools of crappies. Obviously, the bigger the screen the better.
If I were you, I'd wait for pre-opener specials unless they are going on now. Lowrance was notorious for good deals come spring. Find a 7"+ SI unit. It doesn't need to be top-of-the-line.
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https://www.sportsmans.com/fishing-gear-supplies/marine-electronics/fish-finders/lowrance-hook-reveal-7x-tripleshot-fish-finder-chirp-sidescan-downscan-gps-plotter/p/1617938?channel=shopping&msclkid=2d7db35212661a1bb900d6aa9c5d51c5&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Bing%20-%20Shopping%20-%20Pmax%20-%20Fishing&utm_term=2328422030667138&utm_content=Fishing%20-%20Product%20Only
NOTE: I did not research this in depth but dang, for the price it looks like a great little unit. Mapping, SI, and CHIRP technology. I think Cabelas is running this at $399.
EDIT: This unit won't allow mapping...avoid the "X" unit. :thumbs:
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did a little googling on cabelas site......Glenn and Sue are taking a road trip wed!!!!!!! :happy1:
only real decision is deciding on side or down imaging......maybe side might have the edge?????????????
on a side note......i grabbed a sales flyer from FF......they had them on sale..in the flyer.......but aint got SH!T on shelves...... :confused: :crazy: who woulda thunk. :doofus:
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Just seen this...3/27/24.
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Just seen this...3/27/24.
:happy1: headed down wed.....should make it in time!!! :happy1:
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I have both Down imaging and side imaging on my Lowrance. Fun to explore with the side imaging. You can see a lot more with it.
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:scratch: This looks like a good deal to me, glenn. Especially, if you can get the $100 online rebate. https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/humminbird-helix-7-chirp-gps-g4-fish-finder-chartplotter?COBRANDED=RUMBOES_AD They got a few in Rogers the way it looks. I, myself, would make a point to ask about the rebate though. https://assets.basspro.com/image/upload/v1707514557/PDFs/rebate/rebate_Humminbird_Boating_Feb_Mar.pdf
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:scratch: This looks like a good deal to me, glenn. Especially, if you can get the $100 online rebate. https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/humminbird-helix-7-chirp-gps-g4-fish-finder-chartplotter?COBRANDED=RUMBOES_AD They got a few in Rogers the way it looks. I, myself, would make a point to ask about the rebate though. https://assets.basspro.com/image/upload/v1707514557/PDFs/rebate/rebate_Humminbird_Boating_Feb_Mar.pdf
:happy1: thats kinda the one i was eyeballing yesterday when i looked at there website!!!! :happy1:
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Isn't amazing how much technology you can get for a few hundred bucks these days!
Just think what the Navy was paying for that level detail and resolution for sonar and GPS and mapping technology just 30 to 40 years ago - literally millions and millions of dollars.
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I remember years ago I got a Garmin that was my first color locator. Man what a thrill that was to watch. So much more fun to watch.
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I remember years ago I got a Garmin that was my first color locator. Man what a thrill that was to watch. So much more fun to watch.
hell LPS, my first depth finder was a chunk of lead with a clip on the end you snapped on your hook and dropped it to the bottom......then did the arm length thing to figure out how deep it was!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
and later in life they used them for a roach clip! :rolleyes: so i've been told!!!!! :rotflmao:
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I bet you appreciated a decent roach clip didn't you? :sleazy:
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Isn't amazing how much technology you can get for a few hundred bucks these days!
I bought SI the second year it came out...I think I paid close to $1K for a 5" unit. :pouty:
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I bet you appreciated a decent roach clip didn't you? :sleazy:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: naw, wasnt into that.....beer was my choice of stupidity back then.
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OK I have a old Lowrance Ele-4 on my boat so I can get back to my spots and see the depth.
My neighbor just got a new 20' bass boat with 4-12" Lowrance HDS Pro Fish locators 2 on the bow and 2 at the wheel.
I'm thinking he has way more money and a way bigger penis then me! :surrender: :rotflmao:
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Isn't amazing how much technology you can get for a few hundred bucks these days!
I bought SI the second year it came out...I think I paid close to $1K for a 5" unit.
And I paid $3,500 for a 36" TV (right when 40"ers were starting to come out) because it was the biggest one that would still fit in my old "square" cabinet. Now you can pick up "little" screens like that for 100 bucks. That's how it goes.
AND, when we were done with it, we couldn't give that TV away to anyone, because everyone already had bigger, better sets themselves.
I still remember the days - before folks had a TV in every gathering room and bedroom in the house - that you felt lucky to get someone's hand-me-down TV.
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I remember in 1971 my Dad went and bought a Philco color TV before the Super Bowl. We are Vikes fans galore. We were so excited. I dreamt that night that there were about 100 knobs on the back of the TV and we had to adjust them all before the color was right. Was closer to a nightmare. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Well pulled the pin! :happy1: happy union retirement benefits to me
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Congrats Glenn. You will be happy you did!!! :happy1:
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from the time we walked up to the counter till it was paid for in the cart.........15 minutes. :happy1:
decided to go look at ammo.....and to my amassment they had my 220 grain shells!!!! so picked up 2 220's and a 1 80 for sighting in. 180's where 27 bucks and 220's were marked 41 bucks. rnag them up an he musta did a X 3....because the slip had them all for 27 bucks!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
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Looks good Glenn! I have no experience with helix units, just Lowrance. Does that have the long transducer also? We usually just run a split screen, down sonar and GPS for our way points. You'll have fun, maybe even take up walleye fishin now!! Ours for some reason really finds the sheepshead.. :scratch:
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i havent taken it out of the box yet.......i gotta get on there website to turn in the rebate also........i figure with the incoming snowmaggedden.....i'd have time in the next 4-5 days!!!! :happy1:
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Only deal with ours it's wired up to the main cranking battery, so every time we start up it flickers, which is no big deal. We're putting in another up front but that one will run off the trolling motor battery....maybe. we just might add another battery to the back.
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i added a second battery about 10 years ago!!!!!!
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Congrats Glenn. You will be happy you did!!! :happy1:
X2!! :happy1: :cool: From my earlier post https://assets.basspro.com/image/upload/v1707514557/PDFs/rebate/rebate_Humminbird_Boating_Feb_Mar.pdf, this 1 gives you the code & a phone # if you were to have problems. :rolleyes: It looks like you need your serial # & maybe a photocopy of your receipt to start the rebate here. https://www.humminbirdpromotions.com/US/#/home
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There is a learning curve to getting used to it. Watch as many videos about it that you can. They are fun and really help even if you only retain some of it. As you push buttons things will come back to you. Like a new phone. The more you use it the better you are at figuring it out.
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:scratch: Videos did nothing for me :doofus:, I had to just play with it. For that reason, I kept the the smaller book/user's manual in a Ziplock bag in the boat with me for the 1st couple seasons.
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Yes, I never get much from videos. You just have to play with it. It may take a while.
Nice unit Glenn, you’re going to love it!
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Well pulled the pin! :happy1: happy union retirement benefits to me
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Dang, now you have a bigger penis then me too! :pouty: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Well pulled the pin! :happy1: happy union retirement benefits to me
Which was more... :scratch: 3 boxes of Remington Core-Lokt Ammo :doah: or the Hummingbird Helix 7 G4 :confused:
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The helix, by alot.
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Nice things these days is you have the book, videos and the unit to play around with. I watched the videos and then went out and used the unit. As mentioned, the more you use it the more you will know what you are looking at.
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THREE boxes of shells?????? Poor shot? :sleazy: :sleazy: :happy1: :happy1:
Nice locator. :happy1:
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Awesome purchase...your gonna love CHIRP technology and SI!
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I didn't know you could hunt elephants by your cabin Glenn. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Awesome purchase...your gonna love CHIRP technology and SI!
I'm not even sure SI can help glenn find fish? :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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THREE boxes of shells?????? Poor shot? :sleazy: :sleazy: :happy1: :happy1:
Nice locator. :happy1:
:rotflmao: 180's to site scope in
220's to hunt with.......i have a hellova time finding them....so i'm hoarding!!! :sleazy:
lps.........since i started using them a deer or bear dont go very far before dropping dead......just the way i like it!!!!
Leech........ :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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220's to hunt with......
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I use a cane pole to find my rock pile.
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THREE boxes of shells?????? Poor shot? :sleazy: :sleazy: :happy1: :happy1:
Nice locator. :happy1:
:rotflmao: 180's to site scope in
220's to hunt with.......i have a hellova time finding them....so i'm hoarding!!! :sleazy:
lps.........since i started using them a deer or bear dont go very far before dropping dead......just the way i like it!!!!
Leech........ :mooning: :mooning: :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:scratch: You must not shoot very far if you are using one grain to site in and a different grain to hunt with. Wouldn't that throw your MOA out of whack at further distances? 40 grains is a big difference.
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Most I shoot for distance is 125 yards.. maybe.
I was told by a gun and ammo fanatic unless your shooting real long distance the only difference is bullet speed.
Been doing this 20 years, same as my brother with no issues
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Ok. Cool. Thanks.
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https://www.westmarine.com/garmin-echomap-uhd-74sv-chartplotter-fishfinder-combo-with-gt54-transducer-and-us-coastal-g3-charts-19822758.html
Just got this flyer in the mail today.
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So question before I start my locator project. The directions say/ suggest I mount the ducer on the starboard side because of less water turbulence.
My other locator was on the other side and I didn't have issues reading depth wide open. Is it really that big of a deal?? I want to do it right the first time. My point would be plugging up old holes.
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mine is on the port side, no issues for me...
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I've always ran them on the Starboard side as suggested. Have seen others mounted port side too so :confused:
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Mine is on the starboard side and always use a mounting board. Then you can silicone all around it and mount to the board. If you already have holes on the port side maybe you want to keep it there but cover those holes up with the white mounting board and then mount on that.
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You’ll void the warranty if you put it on the port side, you may even damage your boat?
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mine is a tiller so that is why it's mounted that way...
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mines a tiller too!!!!!
LPS.....it didnt come with a mounting board of any type!!!!
coopy.......why or how would it damage the boat?? my Lowrance ran fine as well as the boat did having it on the port side?????
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Just kidding you Glenn.
But as LPS suggested, you should purchase a plastic board to mount on your stern, then mount your transducer to that.
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what benefit will i get if i get one of these plastic board mounts? :scratch:
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Ours is just like the pic, I don't remember is your transducer long, and have side imaging? A board might help with rough roads then. If not I wouldn't worry about it.
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Ours is just like the pic, I don't remember is your transducer long, and have side imaging? A board might help with rough roads then. If not I wouldn't worry about it.
no not really. it might stick out a bit further them my old one, but not much!!!!!
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I don't have a pic of ours, but it's probably a 6" long transducer.
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nope nowhere's close to that!!!!
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The board just cleans it up so you aren't drilling hole in the boat everytime you switch equipment. They are about $20. Pretty standard anymore. But not mandatory
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You’ll void the warranty if you put it on the port side, you may even damage your boat?
Good one Coop LOLOL
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The board just cleans it up so you aren't drilling hole in the boat everytime you switch equipment. They are about $20. Pretty standard anymore. But not mandatory
i looked them up looks to me like you still screw that into the boat. this will be my last locator, so...........but i'm still thinkin. might check FF tomorrow for them,i gotta go to st cloud anyway my crossbow is finally done, wont hurt to put it on i guess.
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nope nowhere's close to that!!!!
If it is a bird and it is not noticeable long than you must have the high speed transducer and not the side scan. The units come with either. I run both.
As for the board. Yes it still goes into the boat but you put it on once. Put some silicone on the screws and behind the board. Running it on the starboard side has less turbulence.
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We have 2 transducers on our boat for our Lowrance too. A smaller puck style 1 for the regular sonar/ down scan & a narrower longer 1 for the side imaging.
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Scenic.......the locator has side and down imaging. i mainly wanted the chip, but got talked into this unit. its not much bigger then my old one.
and i decided to put it on the starboard side......may as well do what the instructions tell me!!!!!
only setback so far is when i went to put the chip in looks like they may have given me the wrong one. its to big wont fit in the locator..........could be operator error, but doubt it. fortunately my wife needs to go to Maple Grove for an appt Friday....so she's taking it with her!!!!
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Inside of the chip there is a micro chip that goes in your unit. They normally come with both sizes. Because your unit is a side image does not mean your transducer is. The side imaging ducers are pretty good sized.
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Inside of the chip there is a micro chip that goes in your unit. They normally come with both sizes. Because your unit is a side image does not mean your transducer is. The side imaging ducers are pretty good sized.
:happy1: thanks, i'll check it out!!!!!
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Info overload, to many options, cant decide, glenn, locator, electronics, cant decide.
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well the mystery of the chip has been solved!!!!!! :happy1: :rotflmao:
oh boar......... :pouty: :shocked: i've made more executive decisions this morning before you rolled outta bed!!!! :mooning: :mooning: :rotflmao:
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Yea like which way to wipe yur as's, front to back or back to front
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Glenns wish!! :rotflmao:
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Yea like which way to wipe yur as's, front to back or back to front
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :moon:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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well got the block in place, all hooked up. directions tell me to check it all out on a lake then out the final lock in place transom screw in...... so........not sure when but i'll get'er done!!!!
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Glenns wish!! :rotflmao:
the price of that spearing stuff just keeps getting higher!!!!!! :sleazy: :evil: :mooning: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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well got the block in place, all hooked up. directions tell me to check it all out on a lake then out the final lock in place transom screw in...... so........not sure when but i'll get'er done!!!!
Take a Pic of your transducer. Curious to know what you have.
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well got the block in place, all hooked up. directions tell me to check it all out on a lake then out the final lock in place transom screw in...... so........not sure when but i'll get'er done!!!!
Take a Pic of your transducer. Curious to know what you have.
i'll post it later today!!!!!
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Here it is. Question though, the instructions say something about not curling up the extra cord to much in one place, may cause interference??, any opinions?
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Now you need one of those things to hold the wire. Screw the wire holder to the top of that board. Do any coiling up in the well or in the boat somewhere.
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Jeez Glenn, you could have washed that rig a couple times at least. :bonk: :rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :happy1: :happy1:
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Be sure to coil them clockwise in the northern hemisphere and anti-clockwise in the southern and you won’t have any trouble.
Seriously, EMI from coiled cables isn't a problem until it is. If it was me - ignorant as I am - I'd be satisfied with making the loops as big as I could in the space I want to tuck the cord away and call it good. As long as y'er not coiling all the extra wire inside a soup can, y'er probably fine. But what do I know? :confused: That's right. Nothin. ;)
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Jeez Glenn, you could have washed that rig a couple times at least. :bonk: :rotflmao:
:rotflmao: :mooning: It's to busy fishing to clean. The inside is spick and span though! :happy1:
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:scratch: :doah: Except for ALL that slime!! ;) :rolleyes: :smiley:
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So looking at the transducer. It doesn't look like a side imaging ducer. Unless maybe they changed them recently. The side imaging ducer on my hummingbird is 5 to 6" long.
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That's what I thought too JB.
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Here it is. Question though, the instructions say something about not curling up the extra cord to much in one place, may cause interference??, any opinions?
Unless like mentioned, they changed these, I do not think that is a side image transducer. Almost looks more like a duel beam but hard to tell.
As for your excess cord I have not had an issue just loosely coiling it up and tucking it away. Just make your coil as big as you can to keep it separated as much as possible. You will also want to use a wire hanger or two to secure the cord tighter to your boat. If not it will damage your cord.
One thing I will say is that you need to redo your mount on this one. If you look at the attached picture you will see that the bottom snaps over the piece mounted to your boat. That center screw goes from top and bottom through both pieces.
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i thought so to. a friend told me that the bottom of the ducer should be level with the bottom of the boat, i got mine a little lower!!!! :scratch:
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i thought so to. a friend told me that the bottom of the ducer should be level with the bottom of the boat, i got mine a little lower!!!! :scratch:
Unbolt the transducer from the mount. Flip the entire mount over top to bottom. Re-bolt on the transducer. Then fold it shut and adjust it on your board and mark it out. Do this BEFORE you put in the screw from the face. Adjust it so your transducer is either level or just below the bottom of your boat. I run mine level.
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i thought so to. a friend told me that the bottom of the ducer should be level with the bottom of the boat, i got mine a little lower!!!! :scratch:
Unbolt the transducer from the mount. Flip the entire mount over top to bottom. Re-bolt on the transducer. Then fold it shut and adjust it on your board and mark it out. Do this BEFORE you put in the screw from the face. Adjust it so your transducer is either level or just below the bottom of your boat. I run mine level.
:happy1: :happy1: that might be a tomorrow afternoon project. maybe later today?????????
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i needed to clean up and organize the garage.......as i started i decided the best way was to get that transducer done......so now its done and everything put away. i forgot to take a picture...... wifey came home with groceries and beer! :happy1: tomorrow maybe.
its now located maybe a 1/2 inch lower then the boat bottom.
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That may be too much but you will have to see. If you throw a big rooster tail it is too low. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: I would shoot for 1/4". Someone here will know. Is this your first color locator? I still remember my first color one. Just loved to idle around and revisit my area.
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That may be too much but you will have to see. If you throw a big rooster tail it is too low. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: I would shoot for 1/4". Someone here will know. Is this your first color locator? I still remember my first color one. Just loved to idle around and revisit my area.
thats as high as it goes and aint changing it. :rotflmao: thought i had it more adjustable. :surrender: :pouty:
yep first colored one........getting a bit anxious to check it out. thinking after the rain goes away i'm gonna take it out on Grand lake near me to play with it. maybe dip a line????
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You may not even want to fish the first few times. Seriously. It will be so much fun to really see what is below you. :happy1: :happy1:
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Done ! :happy1:
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Done ! :happy1:
Just about done.... put a wire hanger on that transducer cord and attach it to your board. Looks like you need to tilt up the back of the transducer just at bit too. You want it flat to the water when you are sitting in the boat. It takes a bit to dial them in but worth the effort.
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If it look like this glenn yur golden
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Scenic, can you post a picture of what your referring to a wire hanger?? Think I know what they are, when I googled it all that came up was for hanging clothes on :confused: :rotflmao:
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It's just a little plastic loop with a screw hole. Black or white.
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Shoulda came and installed it for ya
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Bingo!!!
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Shoulda came and installed it for ya
:happy1: thought that's what they were!!!!!! i may have some laying around......not sure if it wouldnt be easier to just go buy some then look for them. i was hoping not to drill more holes in da boat.but up higher guess it wouldnt hurt!!!
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Dipnthe screw in silicone and zip them in. Do i have to tell yu how to do everything??
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Shoulda came and installed it for ya
:happy1: thought that's what they were!!!!!! i may have some laying around......not sure if it wouldnt be easier to just go buy some then look for them. i was hoping not to drill more holes in da boat.but up higher guess it wouldnt hurt!!!
Yes those are the ones. Put first one in your board and 1-2 higher. Like mentioned coat your screws with silicone and you will be good.
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That's going to be a pretty good bend in that cord, and i only MAYBE Have another 14 inches till it goes into the boat.
My biggest issue is I hot alit of extra cord and not sure where I can hide it :confused: :scratch:
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Hot alit?
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Loop it togethe and zip tie it in a noice little bundle
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Run the wire through one of the drain holes in the well. Coil it up inside the boat.
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Run the wire through one of the drain holes in the well. Coil it up inside the boat.
it is through the drain hole. later when i go out i'll post a couple pictures......for get some ideas.
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I never have figured out why they can't build it for the wire to come out the end closer to the boat. You just don't want it flopping back and forth.
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So here's a picture of the transducer and where the cable goes into the drain hole on the boat. It's exactly 12 inches from the top of the transducer to the hole. My concern is if I put a cord holder on the board it seem like quite a bend right at the transducer. Thinking just 1 about half way up.
Looking for opinions/ suggestions
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Here is all the extra cord. Currently kinda wrapped up laying there. 1 side is where my batteries go the other gas tank. Not sure I want them in either compartment because of vibration and rubbing. Any ideas?,,
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Cut off the excess and splice it back together
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Loolp it to gether, zip tie both ends and wrap it up in elec tape in a nice lil dundle
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Thats wer yu got the name blue tomato!! Yuve had 1 all along!!
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Thats wer yu got the name blue tomato!! Yuve had 1 all along!!
:tut: :tut: that wasnt me bucko.......dat was your pal dakids!!!!!! :happy1:
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So here's a picture of the transducer and where the cable goes into the drain hole on the boat. It's exactly 12 inches from the top of the transducer to the hole. My concern is if I put a cord holder on the board it seem like quite a bend right at the transducer. Thinking just 1 about half way up.
Looking for opinions/ suggestions
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So here's a picture of the transducer and where the cable goes into the drain hole on the boat. It's exactly 12 inches from the top of the transducer to the hole. My concern is if I put a cord holder on the board it seem like quite a bend right at the transducer. Thinking just 1 about half way up.
I would put one probably about where your paint starts.
As for storage of excess...maybe right under the unit compartment. That always is an issue.
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Kinda my thought with the cable holder to :happy1:
As farvas the excess, I wrapped it up and zip tied it together and currently have in just laying underneath the gas line and other cables... for now!
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:scratch: What about under that worn out carpet that goes across the back? :nerd: :evil: ;) :rolleyes: :smiley: