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Angler debate: catch and release versus catch and drop in the grease
by Cory Yarmuth
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The entire aspect of catch and release versus catch and keep has been a hot topic among anglers. As a young angler, I would go out with my father and chase all types of species of fish. We kept these fish for the pan and would not think twice about keeping what we caught.
Growing up I was taught that my actions not only affected me and those around me, but could also the affect future. Learning this at an early age left an impression on me. A new world had been opened up and it soon became apparent that it was my duty to be a part of the conservation.
It was apparent that the times were changing and that a new type of angling was evolving. The catch-and-release angler in me was born. I do like to keep my share of fish for the pan, but a trip on the water does not necessarily mean that we are going to keep everything that makes it to the net.
There are people out there who are very aware of what it means to protect our fisheries and to keep the balance in check on certain bodies of water. However, sometimes they go about it in incorrect ways. Small fish are often let go and the larger ones are harvested because they have more meat. This works well on some bodies of water, however, it is important to keep the smaller fish and let the larger ones go. This will eliminate competition for food and allow larger fish to thrive and reproduce.
As a sportsman I was raised to utilize selective harvest when in the field. Keep only what you will use and don’t kill it if you don’t plan on eating it. Not everybody shares my views, however; I have learned to respect that.
Being within the law is one thing, but being within the thoughts of conservation is another. If we as fisherman do not do our due diligence and learn more about the impact that we have on the bodies of water that we fish, many of our local lakes could become devoid of any good fishing.
Think about it for a while and come up with your own rules and plans. What can you do to help promote selective harvest? Enjoy the outdoors and all that we have been given to use. Remember that it is a privilege and not a right.
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I actually almost exclusively catch and release, that's why I hate the tiny lure ya haveta use when ice fishing, because the gills and perch suck it down, and no matter how careful you are, ya haveta rip it out. Waldos and such, no. Not a prob, but those I eat. :laugh:
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I never understood catch and release when I was young. Now I do.
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Enough for a meal or 2 for me unless they are hurt so bad that they won't make it anyway. I haven't kept a walleye > 17" in a long time as they are pretty rare here. C & R a lot of panfish every week after they move shallow & start bitin in the fall
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C & R 90% of the time here too!! even spearing!! in other words I like to watch them more than anything!!
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I keep a limit of walleyes maybe once a year. Rarely keep fish. I just enjoy catching them. I have no problem with someone who wants to keep their limit but I do have a problem with people who catch there limit multiple times a week. Social media (Facebook) is the worst. Seeing pictures of limits everyday(somethings multiple limits 4x a week from some) that bothers me. I just think to myself geez even if 50% of the fishermen do that there won't be any left in a decade
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I fail to understand the debate. One buys a license if they want to catch fish, keep their limit and stay under their possession limit who am I to say. If they are following the law to each their own.
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I put every musky I catch in the bucket sleazy-422.gif
just kidding. I would have to agree if you buy a license and want to keep your limit all the power to ya. There are exceptions. Catching and keeping a pale of the elusive yet still catchable upper red lake crappies? There one of a kind and its nice to see some of them go back. We keep a few every year but hardly ever freeze fish. I would like to have a limit of walleye in the freezer when walleyes close to have a fish dinner in april though.
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ok heres a question. how many of you agree with freezer possession limit. if you have state allowed possession inyur freezer, you cant catch and keep any more of that species, till they are consumed or out of yur possession..so if yu catch a limit of waaleyes, freez the for later a month down the road, you decide to got ice fishing again, you still cant keep any walleyes.or if you plan a big fish fry for a family reunion, everyone has to brimg their own fish. if they have any.
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Cookie,In regards to your comment on red lake crappies,I fished url almost every weekend starting in 2000 before the word leaked,it was astounding the size of the crappies,infact it was hard to catch a crappie under 13's and these crappies were thick,15 slabs in a 5 gallon bucket was 3/4's full,all with the tails cureled up,I found that because these huge crappies were so thick they weren't the best eating,at least panfried,muddy tasting and mushy,so we rarely kept any back then,I was after a 18"er+ for the wall,never happened,stringer mount of 16"+ to 17"....what is your take,did you eat those biggin's back then? I think Rogers and Hudeck's were the only resorts at the time as well.
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ok heres a question. how many of you agree with freezer possession limit. if you have state allowed possession inyur freezer, you cant catch and keep any more of that species, till they are consumed or out of yur possession..so if yu catch a limit of waaleyes, freez the for later a month down the road, you decide to got ice fishing again, you still cant keep any walleyes.or if you plan a big fish fry for a family reunion, everyone has to brimg their own fish. if they have any.
It's goofy. Fat guys that eat fast get all the fish. Really! Catch, eat like pig, go back out.....Make a YTD LIMIT, like 50 fish in total for the season, Jan 1st to Dec 31st. Whatever numbers apply to different species, of course, like 100 sunfish, 50 crappies, 15 walleye, etc.
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ok heres a question. how many of you agree with freezer possession limit. if you have state allowed possession inyur freezer, you cant catch and keep any more of that species, till they are consumed or out of yur possession..so if yu catch a limit of waaleyes, freez the for later a month down the road, you decide to got ice fishing again, you still cant keep any walleyes.or if you plan a big fish fry for a family reunion, everyone has to brimg their own fish. if they have any.
Good rulle ONLY WISH it was ENFORCED!!!
An Ya boar I have in my time had more than possision>>Thats when the older folk I know that dont get out anymore get some fresh fish. Course Sandy is always liscensed for that overflow! Normalllly we kkeep one llimit.The lake were on is tuned in an we get what we want when we want.
Before the neck surgery I was out 3 times a day an Sandy was out at least evenings wit me.Sometimes we could have suppllied all the ole folks but kept it as ask an you'll receive
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ok heres a question. how many of you agree with freezer possession limit. if you have state allowed possession inyur freezer, you cant catch and keep any more of that species, till they are consumed or out of yur possession..so if yu catch a limit of waaleyes, freez the for later a month down the road, you decide to got ice fishing again, you still cant keep any walleyes.or if you plan a big fish fry for a family reunion, everyone has to brimg their own fish. if they have any.
It's goofy. Fat guys that eat fast get all the fish. Really! Catch, eat like pig, go back out.....Make a YTD LIMIT, like 50 fish in total for the season, Jan 1st to Dec 31st. Whatever numbers apply to different species, of course, like 100 sunfish, 50 crappies, 15 walleye, etc.
HEY YOU AULLDPHART!!! Dont denigrade us fatties!! How old are you? whats yer weight!!
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6'1, 239.....and over 59!!! ;D So, as Glenn would say: :moon: :rotflmao:
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6'1, 239.....and over 59!!! ;D So, as Glenn would say: :moon: :rotflmao:
HOD DANG Yer the same build as ole 57 smoking_a_joint-408.gif confused-3316.gif
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Who dat??!
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6'1, 239.....and over 59!!! ;D So, as Glenn would say: :moon: :rotflmao:
HOD DANG Yer the same build as ole 57 smoking_a_joint-408.gif confused-3316.gif
yea but I be WAyyyyy better lookin!!!!!!!!! hubba_hubba-404.gif hubba_hubba-404.gif :bow: :happy1: :happy1:
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HIM?!?!?! He's a LITTLE BUTTERBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He gotta stand on step-ladder to talk to me!! :doah:
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HIM?!?!?! He's a LITTLE BUTTERBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He gotta stand on step-ladder to talk to me!! :doah:
not only are you a sicko yer so full of :bs: :bs: :bs: i'd bet your eyes are dark brown!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :mad1: :mad1: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Whaddya talkin' 'bout willis? Yer shorter than me! And rounder! Stop taking' those drugs!! doofus-2124.gif
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by 3 inches and your 4 lbs lighter. tut_tut-3315.gif tut_tut-3315.gif
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My! You ARE a plump little feller!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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by 3 inches and your 4 lbs lighter. tut_tut-3315.gif tut_tut-3315.gif
Sounds like you two did a little sword fighting on your get together. :rotflmao:
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Naaa, we had a good time! In fact, he brought me some venny steaks that are thawing out for tomorrow! :tongue:
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My! You ARE a plump little feller!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Naaa, we had a good time! In fact, he brought me some venny steaks that are thawing out for tomorrow! :tongue:
suppose Del lent ya his soupde vergie thingy and your gonna boil them!!!!!!!!!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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No,no,no!!! Gonna sloooooow pan fry with lotsa onyums!!! Maybe some mushrooms!
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by 3 inches and your 4 lbs lighter. tut_tut-3315.gif tut_tut-3315.gif
I know gllenn and you fellers now have me confused?????
Heres some light humor for ya both! So who is talller gllenn by 3 or Reb by 3 Five ft one an a risen??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOx0iGkHGow
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ha! Me taller; Glenn plumper. ;)
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Hey Big bad Bruce, funny!
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I've been rolling the topic (you know, the one this thread is supposed to be about) around in my head and broke it down.
If one believes in catch and release for the reason of keeping certain fish populations up, then they believe that the fishing seasons and catch limits are inadequate as set by the Department of Environmental Conservation. It then begs the question, would you release a fish species that you like to eat (in my case trout) even if it meets the season and other criteria required by law?
Yes, I have released trout even though they were in season, and met the size and catch limits.
It occurred to me that even though the Environmental Conservation boys have determined the desired limits and have set the seasons for adequate fish population, and stock the waters with trout once a year, that in my opinion, the fisheries are still over-fished for trout.
I think the fisheries by me are overfished and not enough people are releasing their trout catch. If it's a legal catch, that's fine if they keep the fish, but there still aren't enough trout to go around.
I almost find it offensive that stocking is necessary. It would almost be more efficient if I went right to the hatchery, and they handed me two or so trout.
Just saying.
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I'm not pro or anti stocking but seems to me stocking is a program for putting fish in waters where the fish they stick don't naturally reproduce nor weren't part of that system to start out with. Now trout I have very little knowledge about so I won't comment on.
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C & R 90% of the time here too!! even spearing!! in other words I like to watch them more than anything!!
another spear chucker!!! Awesome!! I to look and release alot of nords.
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C & R 90% of the time here too!! even spearing!! in other words I like to watch them more than anything!!
another spear chucker!!! Awesome!! I to look and release alot of nords.
what's really fun is when you touch them with the spear!! Man do they fly out the area!!
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The only time I do that is when I got a little feller that think he has to have my live sucker minnow and won't let it alone. Otherwise there a cackle watching them goofy fish act like clowns! :shocked: :cheesy:
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that is true, do you belong to the MDAA by chance?
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that is true, do you belong to the MDAA by chance?
What's that? The Munchkin Development Association of America? :scratch: :rotflmao:
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Used to. Used to belong to alot of groups but would go broke belonging to all the organization of the critters I stalk. Didn't want to pick some over another so I dropped all of them.
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that is true, do you belong to the MDAA by chance?
What's that? The Munchkin Development Association of America? :scratch: :rotflmao:
you dipstick!! smoking_a_joint-408.gif :rotflmao: :oscar: :rotflmao:
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that is true, do you belong to the MDAA by chance?
What's that? The Munchkin Development Association of America? :scratch: :rotflmao:
you dipstick!! smoking_a_joint-408.gif :rotflmao: :oscar: :rotflmao:
now that is funny!!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Easy where you located? This referance led me to think yer outta state maybe a cannuck?>>Department of Environmental Conservation.
I disagree with stocking any fish not natural to the waters! I've read where trout were stocked (cant remember where?But a recent read) The stocked trout out competed the naturals and drove them to near extinction!!
Then in southern Minnesota stockin the states favorite walleye as a put an take fishery without ANY reproduction! Those lakes coulld be great panfish,Bass an nothern lakes but its so crazy that walleye fad!!! Ruin a fine fishery to have a EXPENSIVE fish stocked year after year!! All that $$ could make a different fishery a destination lake for he noneye worshipers!! DISCUSTING!!
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Huh? Reb said you lived on easy Street????
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I live here: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6142848,-73.5296608,11065m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6142848,-73.5296608,11065m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I've got eight local lakes within 15 minutes (all fished hard), and a state park within 25 minutes.
This is lakes region starts a half to my north: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4564338,-74.0424518,105235m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4564338,-74.0424518,105235m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I'm not taking a stand on anyone else catching and releasing. They can do what they want.
My beef is with the sportsmen that came before us, long before people thought about constraint.
They used to catch fish like this out of the local river routinely. They fished it out selling to restaurants. Now the fish are no more.
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I'm not taking a stand on anyone else catching and releasing. They can do what they want. I also dont mind C&R or fishfries. Its not really oldtimers my father uncles an granparents took everything! My gran dad an his father were commerical hunters an fishers,sent their game to Chicago for profit.Yah they stripped the lakes an streams of everything!! Kinda like today with instant notification of a good bite, The hoards show an stripe the lake!! Had it happen on the lake we live watched with horror!! The 2 to 3 llb crapie are no more and we caught em every spring off the dock from 2000 to 2008 in large numbers every evening!! when word got ot! Now to get a meal of 8-10 inch crappie takes us 2-3 evenings a fishin..Its still happening raping lakes!!
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Huh? Reb said you lived on easy Street????
He's a top secret government operative, and we worked together on the Rolling Thunder ops in years past. We're not really who you think we are at all. :cool:
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When did you get the new pool chairs? oh, and you've got a small patch of crabgrass there. I can take care of that for ya.
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:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :bonk: AWE GAWD!!!!!!!!!!!!! confused-3316.gif :oscar: :doah: :doah: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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by 3 inches and your 4 lbs lighter. tut_tut-3315.gif tut_tut-3315.gif
I know gllenn and you fellers now have me confused?????
Heres some light humor for ya both! So who is talller gllenn by 3 or Reb by 3 Five ft one an a risen??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOx0iGkHGow
OK Now onemore time who is taller an fatter?? Whos over 6ft tall.I been side by side wit Glenn an I am close to 6ft close 1 1/2 shy in my old shrunkin age!!
Heres another song fer Reb an Glenn till they actually give in and admit their both little blue people!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyTcYacSo7g