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Author Topic: Ted Williams Talks Obama, The NRA, Feral Cats And Sportsmen Vs Environmentalists  (Read 4611 times)

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Good article Doug....yes I consider myself a hunter/sportsman/conservationist....Kinda sad that isn't the way with all.  I learned to hunt reading the great outdoor writers in the past...  I thought to be a hunter you had to be conservationist...yeah I hate feral cats also! ;)

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Sorry Doug I could only read until I got to the  :bs: about global warming.  Which makes me question the validity of the rest of it.
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Sorry Doug I could only read until I got to the  :bs: about global warming.  Which makes me question the validity of the rest of it.

Dear General, what is it that you know that the worlds scientists don't know? By the way I hope you're right.
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Sorry Doug I could only read until I got to the  :bs: about global warming.  Which makes me question the validity of the rest of it.

Dear General, what is it that you know that the worlds scientists don't know? By the way I hope you're right.

You mean like these scientists?  Which are supposedly the leading scientists on the matter in favor of global warming.  Keep drinking the kool-aid my msnbc watching good friend.  ;)

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/06/23/global-warming-fabricated-by-nasa-and-noaa/
« Last Edit: December 12/02/15, 05:54:41 PM by The General »
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Sorry man I don't watch much msnbc. I like to say the truth is usually in the middle and there seems to be much concern in the middle. Like I said, I hope your right.
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   I am a proud denier.   Man being able to control climate is as big a farce as our current President.

GLOBAL WARMING (It's what I have been saying for years)

(CNSNews.com) -- As the United Nations gears up for its next international conference on climate change in Paris next month (COP 21), a scathing white paper released by a society of French mathematicians calls its fight against global warming "absurd" and "a costly and pointless crusade".

"You would probably have to go quite a long way back in human. . .history to find [such a] mad obsession," according to a translated summary of the document released in September by the Paris-based Société de Calcul Mathématique SA.

The mathematicians harshly criticized a "crusade [that] has invaded every area of activity and everyone's thinking," noting that "the battle [against] CO2 has become a national priority.

"How have we reached this point in a country that claims to be rational?" they ask, adding that mathematicians "do not believe in crusades. They look at facts, figures, comments and arguments."

"There is not a single fact, figure. . .[or] observation that leads us to conclude the world's climate is in any way 'disturbed," the paper states. "It is variable, as it has always been. . . . Modern methods are far from being able to accurately measure the planet's overall temperature even today, so measurements made 50 or 100 years ago are even less reliable."

Noting that concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) have "always" varied, the French mathematicians also said that after processing the raw data on hurricanes themselves, they verified that "they are no more frequent now than they have been in the past."

"We are being told that a temperature increase of more than 2 degrees C[elsius] by comparison with the beginning of the industrial age would have dramatic consequences and absolutely has to be prevented.

"When they hear this, people worry. Has there not already been an increase of 1.9 degrees C?

"Actually, no. The figures for the period 1995-2015 show an upward trend of about 1 degree C every hundred years! Of course, these figures, [which] contradict public policies, are never brought to public attention," the white paper stated.
The French mathematicians also said that the UN's climate models have failed to take into account natural phenomena that affects climate far more than human activity.

Human impact on the climate is "tiny, quite negligible in comparison with natural causes," they point out. "Human beings can do nothing about solar activity, the state of the oceans, the temperature of the Earth's magna, or the composition of the atmosphere."

Furthermore, the work done by the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) does not meet the basic standards set by reputable scientific journals because its "conclusions go [contrary] to observed facts; the figures used are deliberately chosen to support its conclusions (with no regard for the most basic scientific honesty); and the variability of natural phenomena is passed over without comment."

Even if there were such a thing as global warming, "then we should celebrate," the mathematicians said. "And if it does not exist, then we simply shall have to carry on switching on the central heating."

"French policy [on] CO2 is particularly stupid, since we are one of the countries with the cleanest industrial sector," the white paper pointed out, slamming "virtuous" policies that have resulted in a significant loss of industrial activity and the resultant loss of jobs that has left three million French unemployed even as global CO2 emissions continue to rise.

"If we were in France to stop all industrial activity (let's not talk about our intellectual activity, [which] ceased long ago), if we were to eradicate all traces of animal life, the composition of the atmosphere would not alter in any measurable, noticeable way," they said.

The authors also lamented the abandonment of "the adversarial principle" that distinguishes democracies from dictatorships:

"People who do not believe in global warming have been told to shut up. No public debate, no contradictory discourse. No articles in scientific journals. They simply have been told that the case is proven and it is time to take action. . . We are simply required to keep quiet and do what we are told. No second opinion is permitted."

"It is on the debris of the fundamental principles of the law and of democracy that this white paper has been written."
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Sorry man I don't watch much msnbc. I like to say the truth is usually in the middle and there seems to be much concern in the middle. Like I said, I hope your right.

Maybe if everyone was forced to read the article I posted they would realize they are being fooled by a 20billion dollar industry based on falsifying data and scare tactics.  However with a biased liberal media pushing the democratic agenda that will never happen.  In the mean time I'm ok with cows producing methane because I love a good T-Bone.
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Doug I have to ask.  If just as many scientists believe in global warming as those that don't why do you take one side over the other?  Just to show I'm not trying to bait you in ill give you my reasons besides who's pockets are getting greased as to which side I take.

In my 39 years I don't see any changes.  Some winters we get a lot of snow some not some much.  However just a few years ago was the first time I ever needed an extension on my auger for the lakes around here in my 25 years of ice fishing.  Every year I fill my 500 gallon propane tank some time in February and then top it off in August.  Some springs seem to be around long into June.  Some it seems to be 90 in May.  Some summers are drought years and crops are burning up in August.  Some summers, like this one, Farmers had a bumper crop.  If the words man made global warming were never uttered no one would think any different would they?

Plus the ones screaming global warming at the top of the mountain seem to be the ones who's actions speak the exact opposite the most like Al Gore and Obama.  I wonder if Mr. Williams drives an electric car powered off his windmill?  Runs his house and all electrical needs from wind or solar power?  I see he's not using a sailboat out fishing or a boat with just an electric motor.  I know what I'd bet my money on.
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A couple thoughts.
1. Yes I have seen lots of ice on the lakes in some of the recent years

2. The information that I read about regarding the erosion and melting of the worlds glaciers and the melting of ice in Antarctica seem fairly extraordinary. Seems reasonable to think that might be a reason for concern and certainly a reason to pay attention.

3. We seem to live in a world right now where it difficult to tell who is providing us with facts. Most information seems to be served through a filter. Someone has a point of view and then cherry picks information that supports their thesis. To a degree we are all guilty of it. I try to expose myself to a lot of different points of view and process it the best I can. It harder than hell though because there is a lot of misinformation to sort through.

4. I pretty much discount any source that says either only conservative views are the truth or only liberal views are correct. (There goes FOX and there goes msnbc). They both are incapable of being critical of themselves or I should say the point of view they represent. I liked this article because of some of the distinctions he made instead of saying one side is good or bad (name calling).
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Thoughtfully put.

I agree with points 1 and 3 100%.  Point 2 again there are articles both ways stating they are actually growing.  Which forces me to rely on point number 1. 
Point 4 I was only joking about your infatuation with Chris Matthews  :happy1:

What I can't stand though are these guys and gals not practicing what they preach.  I don't really know if Mr. Williams does or not but I doubt it in regards to global warming and as important he makes it out to be.
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    With the age of the earth being around 4.5 billion years old, recent life time memories would not even amount to a drop of piss in the ocean as far as trends go.  No one disputes the planets weather patterns cycle.   Minnesota was once a giant glacier.  Thinking we can regulate the number of hurricanes by what car we drive is more than insanity to me.  Being good stewards of your surroundings is wise and beneficial.  Forcing regulations and hardships on people under the guise of immanent doom is despicable.
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