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Offline Lee Borgersen

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  As Minnesota Fishing Starts,

            Guides And Charter Captains Are Left Out.
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Hundreds of thousands of anglers  hit Minnesota’s lakes and rivers Saturday for the general fishing opener, but they will be doing it without professional guides or charter captains leading the way.

Fishing guides and charter boats remain closed under the state’s COVID-19 regulations, not considered either essential or exempt from stay-at-home orders even as other businesses are allowed to open.

The closure means guides will miss the usually busy first week of the walleye season and, if the order holds through at least May 18 as expected, a second walleye fishing weekend. If the closure lasts through Memorial Day weekend, some guides say it will be financially devastating for their season.

Supporters have started a petition drive to convince Gov. Tim Walz to relax regulations to let guides go back to work, as he has for several other businesses over the past week. The online effort at Change.org had more than 5,000 signatures as of Thursday. Organizers have forwarded the effort to some state lawmakers and will try to get the attention of the governor’s office before Saturday, hoping for a last-minute reprieve.

AliceKae Wiese, co-owner of Remer-based Wheezy Outdoors with her husband, Justin, said the COVID-19 pandemic started hurting their business in April, when local governments shut down access to the early Rainy River walleye season to keep potentially infected tourists from flocking into the area to fish.


The Happy Hooker fleet of charter boats would normally be trolling on Lake Superior for trout and salmon by now. But all charter operations and guides in Minnesota are still shut down under the state’s COVID-19 regulations. Forum News Service



“That’s usually a very busy time for Justin and we lost a lot of trips with that,’’ she said. “Now, we’re going to lose opening weekend and the first week of the season, if not more. … It’s really making a dent in our family income.”


“It doesn’t make sense, or seem fair, that they encourage people to go fishing but then tell people who may not have a boat that they can’t go because guides can’t go,’’ Wiese said. “We know we can sanitize our boats and equipment. We know we can keep socially distanced on the water. We can screen our customers (for potential health issues.) We’ll wear masks if we have to. … I don’t think many other businesses would be as safe as we can be.”

The closure already has meant lost business for Duluth’s fleet of charter boats with the season open for most Lake Superior fish species nearly all year.

“We’d usually be out there in April, depending on when the ice goes out, and definitely in May. But not this year,’’ said Peter Dahl, Duluth’s longest-serving charter captain and co-owner of Happy Hooker Charters. ”People are anxious to do something outdoors. But we still can’t tell them when we can take them.”

Happy Hooker has six boats in its fleet. Dahl has been guiding on the big lake since 1976. He said some corporate charters already have canceled as businesses eliminate in-person events due to COVID-19. But he expects families and groups of friends to book trips as soon as they can, especially as the weather and Lake Superior warm up.

“If this goes into June, that’s going to hurt us pretty bad,’’ said Dahl, who serves as president of the Duluth Charter Fishing Guides Association. He figures there are about 16 charter operations in Duluth and several more in Superior.

Dahl said Happy Hooker has purchased special cleaning machines to disinfect their boats after every trip, and he said big fishing cruisers offer ample space for people to social distance.

The ban on guiding and chartering is frustrating because anglers have been encouraged to fish on their own or with people they know, to social distance and stay close to home. Guides say they can abide by social distancing and health safety precautions the same as all other anglers.

Wiese said the ban on guiding has been especially unfair because most guides are self-employed and aren’t eligible for unemployment benefits from the state.

“We did find out that we may be eligible for some pandemic assistance funds for small businesses. But we haven’t seen anything for sure yet,’’ Wiese said. “We’d rather be able to work.”

AliceKae Wiese, co-owner of Remer-based Wheezy Outdoors with her husband, Justin, said the COVID-19 pandemic started hurting their business in April, when local governments shut down access to the early Rainy River walleye season to keep potentially infected tourists from flocking into the area to fish.
« Last Edit: May 05/13/20, 08:12:32 AM by Lee Borgersen »
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I wondered about them.  Tough times for them for sure. 

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  :reporter;      JUST ANNOUNCED:

 Governor Tim Walz is now allowing fishing guides to work again with one or two people in the boat starting May 18 as part of the new Stay Safe Minnesota Order. MN-FISH has been pushing for Governor Tim Walz to allow this as fishing guides are a crucial part of the economic success of our state, especially in rural areas. We are appreciative Walz listened to our request. :happy1:
« Last Edit: May 05/15/20, 04:33:04 PM by Lee Borgersen »
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So like I kin just see dem big charter boats on L.Superior wit one er 2 people in da boat. :scratch:
Someone (#1 captain) has ta drive da boat and ya need a (#2 first mate) ta handle all da rigging lines. Dat makes 2 people :confused:

If one client is allowed??? would it even cover all da costs ta run da large boat, pay da first mate, and captains profit. :confused:  :bs:  :banghead:
« Last Edit: May 05/16/20, 06:54:28 AM by Lee Borgersen »
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Walz has the same problem every other state has. His state is burning through money and the sales tax revenue is way down. They are beginning to open the state back up not because the virus threat is over, but rather because we are going broke.

In the political game money trumps safety & welfare every time.
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Its a balancing act.  We all can't stay home forever.  We can't keep business shut down indefinitely.  We all have to work to make a living - even those in non-essential businesses.

Safety is a relative term.  There is no way to stop the spread of the virus.  And there is nothing that will keep you from getting it.

The best we can hope for is that people will act reasonably and responsibly as individuals as we move into the next phase of this pandemic.

Walz's initial take was the most reasonable approach.  Stay at home as much as possible while we reinforce the medical community to deal with this, then deal with this as best as we can.

And now its time to deal with our reality.

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Is this still with the 2 in the boat rule??? :scratch:

I signed up to get mnfish notification, but never donated any cash or membership fee.

Let's just say there has been some conversation on IDO that doesn't exactly speak highly of that group at this point.
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What is this IDO of what you speak?

No group has ever done less with more support.
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What is this IDO of what you speak?

No group has ever done less with more support.
I get the impression over there when that gets brought there comments of mnfish isn't of ...... Let's just they don't think they actually do much for the fisherman.
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Never heard of Mnfish. 

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Never heard of Mnfish.
                                                                                                                                           
Der da ones dat spawn wit da womenfish    :Fish:
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   :doah: :rotflmao:
« Last Edit: May 05/17/20, 09:15:02 AM by Lee Borgersen »
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Never heard of Mnfish.
its a group of fisherman like Schara and Winklemen and a bunch of tackle dealers that formed a group to promote fishing. kinda like a lobbyists. the guys that have joined or like me get there newsletters seem to think they aren't very active in there mission.
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