Wolves?

[GRIZ]

A wolf season in the near future?  Drawing a tag by lottery seems like a great way to start.

I wouldn't expect it anytime soon. Reason is they already have licensed wolf controllers. If they would open it up on even a lottery system, they would not be able to control which animals were taken. I am just guessing that the DNR is not going to be too quick to open it up to the taking of them for sport. I'm sure that the taking of wolves would be based on the idea of culling out the most menacing individual wolves. If this makes any sense. If not I can explain it in more detail.

[GRIZ]

Also a reason I don't see much to change soon is Minnesota is the only state in the lower 48 where they were threatened before. The rest of the states they were endangered but not here. Now since nothing has really changed here I would not expect a "season"

The DNR at least at this point is not seeking for population management/controll. Like I mentioned earlier just culling menacing/damaging individuals. The wolf controlers/trappers seem to fill that niche for them.

I have looked into becomeing a wolf controller and it's not real difficult. You have to go through some classes/training which cost I believe $250. Must have trapping expierience(can't remember if it's 3 or 5 yrs) Seems to me theres something else but regardless you still wait for them to call and let you know what kind of damage is being done. Then if you do get the animal doing the damage you must turn it over to the DNR. Thats where I started to lose interest in it as I would like to keep the hide for a wall hanger.

So if your looking to get a trophy out of it may as well go Canada and buy a varmint lic. Think you can even chase them down with snowmobiles up there.

[kingfisher1]

Think you can even chase them down with snowmobiles up there.

Disturbing thought.  I'm not implying everyone does or would, but is that necessary?

[HD]

Think you can even chase them down with snowmobiles up there.

Disturbing thought.  I'm not implying everyone does or would, but is that necessary?

As soon as I read that, it looks like you just started a whole new debate.
I'm not sure about Canada's laws, but that does seem odd.

Hunter

[kenhuntin]

I know in Alberta a varmint license is about $12 U.S. and coyotes or kiyutes as they say up there and wolves are unlimited you may take as many as you want.

[JCAMERON]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr183lk-wQk&feature=related
Snowmobiles? Check this out.

[Go Big Red!]

I can see PETA having a field day with this one...

[dakids]

I might be wrong but I think that once they are taken off of the endangered species list people will just start to shoot them when they see them without fear of the huge fine.  The big fine probably stops most from shooting them.  If the big fine is gone there is not much of a deterant from just shooting them.

Does anybody know what the fines are now and what they will be for taking wolves without a lisence once they are delisted.

[Auggie]

A wolf season in the near future?  Drawing a tag by lottery seems like a great way to start.

I wouldn't expect it anytime soon. Reason is they already have licensed wolf controllers. If they would open it up on even a lottery system, they would not be able to control which animals were taken. I am just guessing that the DNR is not going to be too quick to open it up to the taking of them for sport. I'm sure that the taking of wolves would be based on the idea of culling out the most menacing individual wolves. If this makes any sense. If not I can explain it in more detail.

I agree Griz. The DNR is slow to change anything, right or wrong. But like Uncle Ted says, if you want to save an animal let hunters manage it. The hunters $ spent on tags and so on benefit the animals they pursue. Unless you have a government that robs from it to contribute to the general fund. Did I say that?

[Go Big Red!]

A wolf season in the near future?  Drawing a tag by lottery seems like a great way to start.

I wouldn't expect it anytime soon. Reason is they already have licensed wolf controllers. If they would open it up on even a lottery system, they would not be able to control which animals were taken. I am just guessing that the DNR is not going to be too quick to open it up to the taking of them for sport. I'm sure that the taking of wolves would be based on the idea of culling out the most menacing individual wolves. If this makes any sense. If not I can explain it in more detail.

I agree Griz. The DNR is slow to change anything, right or wrong. But like Uncle Ted says, if you want to save an animal let hunters manage it. The hunters $ spent on tags and so on benefit the animals they pursue. Unless you have a government that robs from it to contribute to the general fund. Did I say that?

Uncle Ted is my hero!!! 

I really and truly believe that some day we will have a lottery drawing for wolves.  Can you image the revenue generated for that?  New calls, new ammo, new camo, etc.  Look at what the lottery and management has done for turkeys.  Granted hunting a turkey is a trip, but a wolf?  You are literally hunting the next rung below humans on the food chain.

[GRIZ]

 I do see it in the future. If the population continues to rise. Not for about ten yrs. though.

Also like dakids mentioned people will maybe shoot them anyways. All that does is delay the length of time until a lottery system goes into place. Why because there wouldn't be an increase in population.

As far as the fines go. They will be the same as b4. They were threatened in MN b4 just like they are now. Nothing has changed in MN. It's the rest of the lower 48 where they went from endangered to threatened.

Minnesota has roughly half of the lower 48 wolf population. The eyes of the feds an the right wing peta nutcases are watching us. The DNR doesn't want to do anything drastic anytime soon. That is one of the reasons Wyoming wasn't included in the delisting, as they already had laws in place to reduce the wolf status right up there with the field mouse.(Open season shoot on site) Except for a trophy zone right around yellowstone park.

The DNR really can't do anything politically correct with the matter no matter what they do. So the safest thing is to do nothing.

It isn't done anyway. I expect more lawsuits to follow yet.