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Offline glenn57

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so i'll start it out. in menards ad today they have 11 pack of off brand garden seeds on sale for 99 cents. what are some opinions on success with these type of off brands vs like Northrup or other more common brand seeds???

personally I'd pay more up front for a name brand seed that I have had past success with then taking a chance on a cheapo generic seed. I want results if I am going to go thru the effort.
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Cant catch fish so you resort to gardening. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:  i stick with seed dealers. Ive had luck with off brand and not so much luck. Wallmart seems to out out seeds that they didnt sell last year. Or the year before.
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Boar...... :censored: :bonk: :bonk:. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:first off wouldn't go to Walmart if they gave there seeds away. And what grows in that god forsaken country you live in?? :scratch: Sasquatch??
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On a serious note my game plan is probably to stay with what I feel most comfortable with. Seed companies I have had luck with. I have had OK luck with buying bulk seed from the local hardware store. I plan on growing a lot more seasonings this year to.
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 OH MAN any seed sold retail has to have at least>>?Jeeze I forgot?? 92-95% germination rate.Google it I'm most likly close but wrong!! Friggin rules government set!! I could make big $$$$ sellin my seed :happy1:

 We just came from da big M got 20 packs of that seed at 35 cents a pack Then some Burpee seeds. Didnt see the sale till we got home and read the paper! sale starts tomorrow Feb 1st.
 Startin seed inside is a craft,Gotta have soil temp,sunlight and dark within reason of what seed yer sproutin!! Then to keep it growing and not gettin spindly is another craft in itself! Move plants to a east window less sun and heat makes em grow slower with lots a root development .
 March 1st I start my seed this year. 6 weeks for maters,then they get planted outside in the wall-o-water enclosers,Yep Mid april I'll have maters by july 4th to 8th. Peppers start same time but stay inside till May 1st then the wall-o-water enclosers go off the maters and on the peppers outside in the garden.
 Get the cheap seeds, I know you Union fellers cant afford the good stuff.
 Stop on by for some excellent Hungarian sweet pepper seed,Stuff that cant be found in the US easily cause of the germination rate!!! Got some heirloom mater seed also iffin yah want some. Blah Blah ramble ramble on an on hahaha :moon: :scratch:
 
 Glenn 57 what seasonings are you planning on??Salt and  Pepper? Lemon pepper. Lowreys seasoning salt?
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All those and Cajun too! :moon: :moon:
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All those and Cajun too! :moon: :moon:
Well gramps if you dont bring that Union shalali (Louisville slugger) along an scare me 1/2 to death!!! I'll have maters and peppers for you,You to Derrick>>(cant remember yer handle here!!) I'll be starting 6 of each mater  12 varities and 6 of each pepper 8 varities with lots of hungarians.I only need 2 of each mater and peppers with the exception of the hungarians,I'll start at least 24-30 and plant 18 of them.The rest as usual I give away as for friends and trades for area gardeners who I have traded with for bout 12-13 years.
 Just checked my seeds.Glenn before you buy check me out I have to unload some I have way to many packs!!
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dang I just seen this. I am set with seeds. only thing left is the trip to a green house.
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                    GROWING TOGETHER:

 Gardening truisms increase success with growing
 'Be careful with that pencil or you'll put an eye out."
"And never run with scissors."

These are truly wise words. Gardening has its own truisms that increase our success with all things green and growing. These "rules to grow by" can be passed along as gardening wisdom from one generation to the next.

 
Did I hear someone say they don't have a green thumb? Never true. The first rule of gardening defines a green thumb as simply providing a plant's needs through instinct, experience or education. And we can all do that.

Tried-and-true gardening wisdom includes the following:

Houseplants

• More indoor plants are killed by overwatering (meaning too frequently) than any other cause.

• When watering a potted plant, always apply enough to wet the entire soil ball.

• Never let a potted plant stand in water more than a few minutes once soil is moistened.

• Clay pots are more forgiving of watering errors than plastic because they breathe.

• Flowering plants will bloom quicker if slightly pot bound.

• When trying to decide pot size, don't let plants flounder in a too-large pot.

Lawn care

• Three inches is the optimum mowing height for healthy turf.

• Deep, less-frequent watering promotes healthy, deep roots. Frequent, shallow watering causes shallow, less-developed root systems.

• If lawnmower clippings are allowed to filter back into the lawn, their nutrient level equals one fertilizer application per season.

• Broadleaf lawn weed killers that don't harm grass can kill or damage shrubs, flowers and vegetables if vapors drift onto non-target plants.

Trees and shrubs

• Fast-growing trees are usually shorter lived than slow-growing types. There's a place for both.

• Overgrown deciduous (leafy) shrubs can be rejuvenated by cutting back to 6 inches above ground level before spring growth begins. Not so with evergreens.

• Most deciduous pruning is best done in early spring before "bud break."

• Prune evergreens in May and June.

• To determine proper tree planting depth, the widened flare between trunk and roots should be visible above soil level.

• The "feeder" roots of a tree are much closer to the canopy's drip line than to the trunk.

Fruit trees

• Most apple trees require five to seven years from planting until full production, depending on variety.

• Apples require cross-pollination from a different apple variety to set fruit. Ornamental crabs will work, or a neighbor's apple tree, providing it's a different type.

Annual flowers

• Another name for annual flowers is bedding plants.

• Annual flowers that grow quickly enough to direct seed into outdoor soil include zinnia, cosmos, nasturtium and four o'clock. Most others require pre-started transplants.

• Annuals will continue blooming longer if spent flowers are "deadheaded" before they set seed.

Perennial flowers

• Some types are long-lived; others persist only a few years.

• Perennials that bloom in spring and early summer are best divided in fall. Conversely, those that bloom in late summer or fall are best divided in spring.

• The greatest challenge with perennial flower beds is usually weed control.

• Peony tops should be removed in the fall for disease sanitation.

• Hosta, daylily, and iris tops are best cut back in fall. They're too mushy by springtime.

• Other than those mentioned, most perennials will survive winter better if tops are left intact and cut back in springtime.

Vegetable gardening

• Soil is ready to work in spring if a handful, when squeezed into a ball, crumbles apart easily rather than staying in a mudball.

• Overhead sprinkling can spread disease organisms by splashing water. Ground watering and soaker hoses are better.

• Morning watering is preferred because evening water can cause foliage to remain wet all night, increasing disease chances.

• New plantings of rhubarb and asparagus should be allowed to grow two full seasons, and harvesting can begin the third.

• Stop harvesting rhubarb by July 4. This allows plants to replenish vigor during the season's last half.

• Asparagus tops are best left on over winter and removed in early spring.

• The number of days to maturity on a tomato variety tag is from the date of transplanting plants to the garden, not the days from seeding.

• Clear plastic warms soil faster than black plastic, when used as a soil mulch to speed growth of heat-loving crops like melons.

• If radishes grow into all tops and no bottoms, they usually weren't thinned early enough, or the weather was too warm. Plant earlier and thin plants to an inch or more apart.

• Don't sneeze with your eyes open, or your eyeballs will fly out of their sockets. That has little to do with gardening, and I'm not sure of its accuracy. I just wanted to see if you were still paying attention. :rotflmao:
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Hoping to get the garden tilled up this week. Anyone else got anything planted?
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Hey general. You get them spuds planted good Friday??!?
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Hoping to get the garden tilled up this week. Anyone else got anything planted?
HAHaha I been going to for 3 weeks now!! Just today I got the tiller out an fired.Tomorrow I will till a row plant tatters till a row and more tatters.Cant run the tiller for the 2 hours it takes for the gardens YET, so I'm doin piece work.GOTTA GET dem tatters onions and root veggies in this week!!
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Nothing going in here yet.  I haven't even looked at the garden.  I'm thinking of taking the snow blower off tonight and putting the tiller on.  I have to get some fertilizer first.  I've never been a big believer in getting things planted early.  If I'm done buy the middle of May it always works out in the end.  Dew I know a guy that could help you out  ;)
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hey dew like the general said I know a guy that can give ya a hand to. and don't be so dang blasted stubborn!!!!!!!! :bow: :bow: :banghead: :banghead: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Dew I know a guy that could help you out  ;)
  General Thank you so much for stopping by with your tiller ready to go!!  Glenn I had to turn him down,I NEED to get myself moving after 10 full months of only leaving the house for Dr.appts and sitting all day for those 10 months.
 I got to start slow.The little I did yesterday felt good more so than the Phys Ther. I'm doing. Little at a time  should pick up to back to where I was?
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hey no problem!!!!!!!!!
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MASTER GARDENERS: Some fun (and some problems) with potatoes :doah:
 
When growing potatoes, one is likely to generally have success; however, a few problems can occur. One thing that I like about potatoes is that even when I have had some problems, I was still able to harvest a good amount of edible potatoes.

 
Potatoes can be planted about two to four weeks before the last frost of the spring, although I have planted them a little bit after that and still did fairly well with them.

If choosing potatoes, look for certified seed potatoes. Avoid grocery store potatoes we buy for eating. They have often been treated to stop sprouting, allowing the potatoes to have a longer shelf life. To simplify your planting of potatoes, try to find seed potatoes that are about egg sized; then you can ignore cutting them into sections of two or three eyes and hardening them off for a day or two before planting.

There are a number of ways to plant potatoes, but one method is to plant them about a foot apart and 6 inches deep, filling in the trench. After a couple of rows of leaves have appeared, cover up the lower level of stems with a small hill of soil. Although potatoes like about one inch of water a week, hilling the potatoes helps shed excess water. The hilling also encourages the covered stems to develop more roots that can develop into extra potatoes.

Here are some of the problems I have had: :popcorn:

. Potato bugs: These are black and orange striped beetles that eat the leaves of the plants. Simply pick them off every day or two as you see them and throw them into a small bucket of soapy water, which seems to kill them rapidly. Their eggs are found in bright yellow clusters on the leaves and larvae are orange hump-backed grubs. I found the simplest way to get rid of the eggs is to simply pick the leaves that they are on.

. Black dots on potatoes and stems (black scurf or rhizoctonia): This is a common fungus that becomes a problem in cool, wet soils. These potatoes are edible, preferably with the black dots scrubbed off prior to cooking the potatoes.

. White dots on potatoes: The potato lenticels (the "nostril" of your potato) have grown too large due to too much water. The short-term solution is to simply rinse them in water and let them air dry until the pores have shrunk, then prepare them as you prefer. Storage life could be shortened.

. Hollow heart: The middle of the potato is hollow, due to generally inconsistent growing conditions. These potatoes can be eaten, but I prefer to cut out the ugly part.

. Potatoes, tomatoes and peppers are fairly closely related and share problematic issues. It is best to rotate these three plants each year. If space allows it, these related plants should be planted in the same area only about every three years.

There is a very large variety of potatoes, with a wide variety of growing, storage, and taste characteristics. The typical potatoes that most people use are red or russet or white. Your local retailers have a basic variety of good seed potatoes, but if you are into experimenting with what you grow, you might want to find a good online retailer with blue potatoes, purple potatoes, red fleshed potatoes, fingerling potatoes, baby potatoes, early season potatoes, mid- and late-season potatoes, gold potatoes, and butterball potatoes, to name a few. It can be fun to experiment.

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ROUNDUP QUESTION>>>>>>> will it do its duty with the temps as it is??? got some day lilies to dispose of so we can replace them with other species !!!!
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ROUNDUP QUESTION>>>>>>> will it do its duty with the temps as it is??? got some day lilies to dispose of so we can replace them with other species !!!!

If they are green and growing, yes it will work.
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ROUNDUP QUESTION>>>>>>> will it do its duty with the temps as it is??? got some day lilies to dispose of so we can replace them with other species !!!!
As long as the plants are green it will work.Might take a few weeks to kill the whole root system, just because its not real warm where the plant is rapidly growing. You may have stragglers up next year. They are a rhyzome plant hard to kill the whole rhyzome.Kinda like horseraddish but not that hardy!! Right now that plant is putting all its energy into the sprouting of the flower,After it bloome is the time to kill when the plant starts storing energy for next year.
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 After some thought Why remove em?? Plant the perennials right in with em,Spring color then the summer color from what perennial?
 Any way if you want total kill wait till the flower pedals start to drop then poison when the plant is storing next years sugars.
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theres to many we think theres to many andI don't like them. we got some from a friend of my wifes and she was told they were IRIS! wrong! :banghead: :banghead:

on the other hand my winter onions are coming along nicely!!!!!! :happy1: :happy1:
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The taters are in

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The taters are in
What kind did you plant?I got a large icecream bucket full of yukon gold< cut an ready to plant.Need a few more?

 An yah know they were spose to be in by good friday!! Arent Fridays always good for the 9 to 5er union workin stiff??Well maybe for the union Reps cause the real workers start at 7AM
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Man am I behind in my garden but its so dry here... not sure if I should go to all the work, looks like a drought in the making.  Got my martin house cleaned tonight and back up.  Next is plowing and rototilling the vegetable garden.  But the walleyes are bitn...

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Man am I behind in my garden but its so dry here... not sure if I should go to all the work, looks like a drought in the making.  Got my martin house cleaned tonight and back up.  Next is plowing and rototilling the vegetable garden.  But the walleyes are bitn...
Dry everywhere!! The martins?? You rent  to illegal aliens from south a the border?? Got snow there?? Plow the garden?? you in that fishin contest?? Better get them fish while you can!!I' ll bestarting soon an ya better get the easy ones
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Our tiller won't cooperate so goes to shop tomorrow. Ma is not going to be happy. And I mean my mother!
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The taters are in
What kind did you plant?I got a large icecream bucket full of yukon gold< cut an ready to plant.Need a few more?

 An yah know they were spose to be in by good friday!! Arent Fridays always good for the 9 to 5er union workin stiff??Well maybe for the union Reps cause the real workers start at 7AM

We plant yukons and reds.  Last year with four rows I have 80 or so gallons of potatoes.  So this year we went down to three rows.  I also have left over of both that I planted.  Thanks though
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Our tiller won't cooperate so goes to shop tomorrow. Ma is not going to be happy. And I mean my mother!
I have contact with a chinese rep for tillers, Rep.Won Hung Lo is a responsible feller! If yer Ma is pissed and needs it now. I can recommend him and PM you a phone #.
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