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Offline KEN W

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I couldn't find any info on here about ageing venison before eating. Since beef is usually hung in coolers for up to 2 weeks, would this make venison better if the same was done? Anyone here do this?
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Ive heard it dose bit the whole deal is to have a cosistent temperature of somewhera likes 40 degrees. A wlk in cooler is best.  But on a slightly different take. You can age meat in the fridge simply by air sealing the steaks or chunks. And leave them in the fridge for 2 to 3 weeks or how wvee long yu want. But they have ro free of air.
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Good point. I can try putting the meat in vac bags for 10 to 14 days.
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I chop up A LOT of deer, so keep in mind...the longer you hang it, the more meat you loose.
But...if you have a really fat deer with a thick fat layer... you can age it.

See, hanging a beef is different than hanging a deer just because of the fat content.

If you decide to try and age a deer, pull the tenderloin out first... because that's the first thing you're going to loose. They'll shrivel up to nothing....
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Our local meat center, the Belgrade Meat Center, emphasizes not to dry age deer and bring it in as soon as possible. Same thing. They say, this is not beef and there is little to no benefit and in fact, you lose meat that way. Since we've started processing our own, we cut it up immediately.

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I've heard two different stories from butchers.
One said Beef has fat but Deer has tallow. It doesnt help to age Venison.
On Youtub there are some butchers called the "Bearded Butchers" and they say aging help Venison? 
I go with the faster you can cut it up and get it in the freezer the better.
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Leech, I enjoy watching the bearded butchers and last year my wife got me some of their seasonings for a Christmas gift. Good stuff but pricey. Anyway, one thing I learned from them as a relatively new home butcher/processor is unless you're talking cuts for grilling, don't get so concerned about the silverskin. It will grind just fine so long as long as there's not tons of it. Less meat wasted that way. Along those lines, the MeatEater taught me this year to cut off all that belly meat that covers the top of the ribs in big sheets and make rouladen out of it!

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I have always skinned the day shot. Easier to skin when warm. Cut out the inside tenderloin. Then let it hang overnight until the next day. Then bone it out.

Package the steaks and freeze. Freeze chunks of the hind quarter and package 5 lbs of trim for sausage meat and jerky and freeze.

I was just wondering if ageing steaks would make it better.
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Worth a shot! Ive heard lots of people say it works. Take a few nice cuts and try it
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I agree. You don't know if you don't try. My main concern would be doing it safely and at the right temp, etc.

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maybe once and only one steak or roast...  at first anyway.. 
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Yup.....will try a steak or 2 and vac seal. Put in the fridge for 10 days.
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I guess we're talking about 2 different things then.
Having meat in a vacuumed bag at a constant cooled temperature is alot different than hanging it out to age at constant cooled temperature.
I'm sorry, I guess I misunderstood what you were asking.
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Just two different proccesses, hanging to age properly needs conaistant temps. Some fluctuation is ok, but if you hi to low its not good, the cell  structure in the meat breaks down so fast its actually rotting, when a consistant tem is added, then the proccesses is slowed down, not an actual rot but a slow break down of cell stucture thus tenderizing and softening the meat
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Our uncle owned a small grocery store when we were young & all of us worked there early on. My brother was always behind the meat counter & he said the same thing Boar.
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I actually have a 17 lb prim rib in fridfe, been the 2 weeks now. Its just fine, air sealed
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Leech, I enjoy watching the bearded butchers and last year my wife got me some of their seasonings for a Christmas gift. Good stuff but pricey. Anyway, one thing I learned from them as a relatively new home butcher/processor is unless you're talking cuts for grilling, don't get so concerned about the silverskin. It will grind just fine so long as long as there's not tons of it. Less meat wasted that way. Along those lines, the MeatEater taught me this year to cut off all that belly meat that covers the top of the ribs in big sheets and make rouladen out of it!

Great idea for rouladen, and do try Osso Buco with the shanks.  :happy1:

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I always wondered about all of the silver skin.  Good to know Leech.  Thanks. 

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I always wondered about all of the silver skin.  Good to know Leech.  Thanks.

I think that was from Yellowstone above!   :happy1:
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Oops yes thanks YS

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Hey Yellowstone, you mentioned Belgrade meat locker. You from up that way ? Not far from you then and used to fish lake Johanna.
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 :confused: :confused: :doah: kinda looks likey venison is gonna be aged for a while. :pouty: :pouty: :doah:. Like on the hoof till next year. :undecided: :rotflmao:
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So yur having a waa waa burger with yur cries!!
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Yea.... So.... And your point is what exactly?? :scratch: :rotflmao: :mooning:
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Shot a buck a couple days ago. Not the biggest in the woods, but hadn't shot one since 2018. I vacuumed sealed some steaks and put in the fridge. Will see what it tastes like in 2 weeks. Not sure why the pic is sideways.
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if you click on the picture it shows up the correct way!!!!!!!! :happy1:
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Probably too late for most of us this year, but maybe something to remember for next...

The Hang-Time Timeline: How Long to Age Your Deer for the Tenderest Meat

A simple day-to-day guide to aging any-size deer on the meat pole, in any conditions

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I had my prime rib in the fridge for 3 weeks wen i opend it, it just started to turn, could smell just a hint of breck down, cut into steaks a froze it
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interesting, but I would never hang one over a few days myself...  just me... 

and Boar was that sealed from the processing plant??   I have done that too..  if sealed proper it can be done...  vac sealed all the way... 
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Venison is aged, at least a little. The process starts as soon as the deer is dead. But what makes aging different than decomposition? While the aging process is simply the breaking down of collagen (the tough, stringy part) and connective tissue in the meat by enzymes, true aging of meat can only take place in a controlled environment in order to give the enzymes time to break down connective tissue before bacteria causes the meat to rot.

The Environment
The most important part of that environment is temperature. Too cold, below 32 degrees Fahrenheit, and the enzymes stop working. To warm, above 40 degree Fahrenheit, and bacteria multiplies rapidly, causing spoilage and leading to conditions that could very easily cause food poisoning. To properly age venison, the temperature needs to remain between this 32- and 40-degree temperature range, or at least very close to it.

Next in importance when it comes to aging meat is moisture. The lower the humidity around the meat, the slower any bacteria will reproduce. All other things being equal, the lower humidity of the western U.S. will age meat outdoors better than the humid southeast, even in similar temperature ranges. Luckily, the humidity level in walk-in coolers and refrigerators normally runs on the low side, making them perfect for aging meat.

The final key in aging is time. While beef is often aged 21 days or longer, venison lacks the fat and connective tissue that make such a long age time viable. Over the years, I have tried various lengths of aging time. I have settled on two to seven days as the prime window for the highest-quality venison. Older bucks might benefit from a bit longer hang time, up to 14 days if conditions allow, simply because they have more muscle mass and connective tissue to break down.

For the hunter, there are three basic ways to age venison. The first, and simplest, is in a cooler on ice. Next comes dry aging, simply hanging the venison in the proper temperature range, be that outdoors, in a meat locker or inside a spare refrigerator. The final method is wet aging inside a vacuum sealed plastic bag either in a meat locker or refrigerator.

Regardless of the method used, the aging process should take a minimum of 24 hours after the harvest. During this 24 hour period, the meat undergoes the process of rigor mortis. Upon death, glycogen stored in the muscle begins to convert to lactic acid, thus lowering the pH of the meat. This causes the muscle fibers to shorten and contract, making them stiff and tough. Freezing or butchering during this process will lead to tough meat, regardless of how long the meat is frozen after butchering. After 24 hours, the lactic acid level begins to drop, the muscle fibers begin to loosen and the enzymes start to break down connective tissue. Regardless of the aging method used, hunters should hold off on butchering a full day for tender venison.

The Methods
Cooler Full of Ice: I admit; this is the one I use most often here in KY. Even during the November firearms season, it isn’t uncommon for temperatures to spike into the high 60’s or warmer. Since we butcher most of our venison ourselves, and I don’t have a walk in cooler (yet) that is way too warm for a long aging.

Start by adding a layer of ice to a cooler. Quarter the deer and remove backstraps and inside loins, layer the meat over the ice in the cooler and then cover the meat with additional ice. To prevent the meat from resting in a pool of water, I open the drain on the cooler and prop the opposite side a few inches into the air. This allows any melted ice to drain from the cooler, keeping the meat relatively dry. As long as the ice is refreshed as needed, venison can be aged up to a week in this manner. For younger deer, two to three days is usually sufficient.

Dry Aging: This is the method that pops into mind for most of us when we think about aging venison. To successfully dry age, the deer is hung in a spot where conditions are right for aging. This can be outdoors if weather allows, in a walk in cooler, or in a spare refrigerator.

Dry aging is most effective if the skin is removed before the process. That said, dry aging with the skin off leads to a thick layer of desiccated (dried out) meat that must be trimmed away before the meat is processed. I like my venison (especially the backstraps) way too much to throw any of it away. For that reason, when conditions allow me to dry age venison, I tend to do it with the skin on. I also remove the inside loins before aging, as they tend to dry out after hanging for a few days.

If you would like to dry age but don’t have access to a walk-in cooler, then a spare refrigerator will work. Remove all but the top rack and raise the remaining rack to its highest level. Remove the backstraps from the deer and place directly on the top rack. Next, remove all four quarters from the carcass and suspend them below the top rack, hanging them by wire or string tied to the rack itself. Venison aged this way can go a full two weeks before butchering, but there will be quite a bit of loss due to dried out meat. Three to five days seems to be the sweet spot for aging in this manner. This allows some break down of collagen and connective tissue, but minimalizes loss.

Wet Aging: While not as well-known as dry aging, wet aging is actually how a very large percentage of the meat found in grocery stores these days gets aged. Wet aging of meat is accomplished when large primal muscle groups are removed and vacuum sealed in plastic bags. The bags are then stored in a refrigerated area for a length of time. The plastic prevents drying of the meat and the vacuum seal helps to stop the growth of bacteria. While the venison is refrigerated, usually four to 12 days, the enzyme breakdown continues, making the meat both more tender and more flavorful than unaged venison. After the aging process, it can then be butchered down into table cuts and frozen.
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