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Author Topic: Had land surveyed last year  (Read 2930 times)

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Offline HUNTER2

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Found out the neighbors big stand was on my land. There used to be a fence there years ago, whitch has been gone for quite awhile. He thinks that should be the line. I said he could hunt in it and he got pissed and said I don't need your permission to hunt on my own land. I went out there by the stand a couple days ago and saw he ripped my no hunting sign and the survey marker out. He has a attitude that would piss anybody off. Called sheriff and somone was supposed to come out and nobody showed.
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   Start a Journal right now.  Document every phone call date and time.  Take pictures with date stamps.  Idiots like this do not listen to reason. :sorry: 
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Offline lentz

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thats terrible.

the people who hunt behind us had there land resurvayed and gained 25 acers to a neighbor behind them which was good for them but they still cant get a  :Deer:. but the bad thing is that we lost one of our stands. the border by mouth when my grandpa sold it was the middle of the swamp but the stand is on there land about 30 yards  :cry: but we just have to deal with it.

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Hunter2, how much did it cost you to have it surveyed?

I believe you could go after him for the cost if you can prove he removed the marker.
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Offline HUNTER2

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The whole thing boils down to the liability if somone gets hurt in the stand. The surveryor said he would have to come out draw a map with GPS and then I would have to get a lawyer.
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Yup, your right. If someone gets hurt on your property, they could come after you.
And another reason I also ask how much it costs, is, I'm looking to have mine surveyed as well.
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Offline beeker

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you may be protected under this law...

Landowner Liability (Minn. Stat. 604A.20-604.27)
An owner who gives written or oral permission for the use of the land
for recreational purposes without charge does not, by that action:
• extend any assurance that the land is safe for any purpose,
• confer upon the person the legal status of an invitee or licensee to
whom a duty of care is owed, or
• assume responsibility for or incur liability for any injury to the
person or property caused by an act or omission of the person.

since your land is posted (except where he took the sign down) you would be either protected by the above law. or by the fact that they were then treespasing.

on a different note. for our land this year we went to a site called terra serve? and found the corner GPS locations and then used a pair of garmins to find em. they were about where we thought for the front 2, but the back 2 we were way off.  then we stood one on each corner and calculated the distance between em to match to the front to verify the footage of the 40 acres.
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Offline HUNTER2

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Talked to County attorney yesterday. He said someone can still sue you if they get hurt on your property. He said I should hire an attorney for the civil suit. First I have to pay the surveyor again to come map the property with the stand on it, then hire an attorney to send them a letter. If they still don't believe it is my land, then it goes to court.
« Last Edit: November 11/17/11, 08:45:20 AM by HUNTER2 »
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Offline nontypicalhunter

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Having the same problems with a guy that live down the road from me. There is a 40 acre field next to my place we both have permission to hunt and his mentality is "Everything I can see, I can hunt". I comfronted him when he drove his 6 wheeler thru my back yard at dinner time. His response to me when asked what the hell he was doing was, and I quote, "Well, you property is not posted so anyone can go on it anytime they want." So I posted it and again he went joy riding thru my land, when confronted again, he was kind enough to point out that I signed and dated the signs BUT did not have my phone number on the sign so technically it wasn't legally posted. I put my number on the signs and gave him a warning that if his 4 wheeler or 6 wheeler came on my land again that he would be leaving without them. I as I'm sure everybody else does, do everything I can to get along with my neighbors, but some people have to push the limits and I don't understand why. If you know where the line is DON'T CROSS IT and everyone will get along.

Offline Randy Kaar

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I guess I am lucky, All my neighbors up at the property are great! I can hunt on their properties
when I want. My 10 acres are a birthing ground for deer and they really dont want us to hunt it.
So all included I have over 400 acres on different properties to hunt. If I need help they will be there
for sure! Or if I need a bobcat to use, I got it. Hell I am in heaven there! Sucks when you have probs with the neighbor for sure...

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Offline wildlifeminnesota

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 I been hunt a 40 acres for 6 years now, the neighbors is a older guy in a home, and has two guys that hunt this land of 80. these two guys bow hunt next to the 40 I hunt and come rifle they hunt the back 40. have had no problems in tell this year,  opening day that night I shot a doe as it was on the 40 I hunt but it was going under the line. just after I see both guys walking back up the road.

So I get out of my stand and put my gun down and turn on and flashlight and walk over where I shot it did no see blood so I know where the deer when and I cross the line without my gun and walk 50 yards and seen blood so I mark it and stared to walk back to the line. I was going to go get help and more light and go over to the guys and let them know what was up. But before I could get back to the line I trun and had see the two guys with there truck at the end of the field, so I trun back around and was now walk to them. as 10 more yards from where I mark the one dot of blood there was the deer. I walk down to talk to them, The first thing that come out of one of the guy mouth was who the  :censored: are you and I here  :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

you should ask he said, I try to tell him I was on my way back to talk with him but all I here was  :censored: :censored: :censored:

After 5 minn listing to  :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: I told him that I was making sure I have a good sign that it was a good hit that I was heading back to talk with him and get help,

Now it would have take me 30 to 45 min to walk all the way around to talk with them guys but it was 5 minn after I shot the deer they was on there way down,  :scratch: I think some poeple just overreact and fly off the hand.

Later I was talking with my father law that own the 40 I hunt on. He told me that a week ago he was out doing some thing with the backhoe and he look and that same guy was in his bow stand and had this bow drawn back and had it pointed at him,

Now that I put it all together My father law bust this hunt and that what piss him off. My father law said he did not see him there in tell he was looking at him with his bow pull back. Now I myself did not see it so I did not bring it up.

I told the guy I was planing on going over to talk with him and that I just want to make sure I had good resin to go back to look and that I was  :sorry: 

Now I know I made all the right chose.

       

Offline beeker

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some of these stories are the things that make my stomach ache. we have been lucky where I hunt. personally a verbal warning should be all it should ever take to keep someone off your land.

here is some of the law from the reg book. I bolded a part that makes his argument about posting BS.

Always ask permission before entering private land. Any entry onto the private property of another without permission is considered trespass. Landowners may be able to pursue court action against trespassers whether the property is posted or not. If you are caught
trespassing, you may be issued a citation and assessed a fine under civil penalties, and repeat violators can lose their license or registration. Or, if you are convicted of violating trespass laws under criminal procedures, you may lose your hunting privileges for up to two years, lose hunting
equipment, and be subject to fines and possibly a jail sentence. All DNR conservation officers
and all other licensed peace officers enforce trespass laws and may issue a citation to a person who trespasses in violation of the law or who removes a sign without authorization. A summary
of the Minnesota Outdoor Recreation Trespass Law begins below.
« Last Edit: November 11/17/11, 09:43:01 PM by beeker »
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Offline wildlifeminnesota

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I have all so been luck in tell this year so thing do change,

By the time we walk away we did shake hand and he ask me if I need  :help: holing a leg and a light I told him that it was ok and I grab the deer and pull it back to the 40 I was hunting on and that was the end of it, I did not gut it on his land or the owner land.  Like I said he was piss at my father law and he dose not hunt.

Some time you have to talk with people and not get piss off as this could make for pissing mach, As that the last thing I want!!!