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I know Cody posted what he read/heard correctly about removing the 30 cent gas tax and replacing it with a mileage tax.  But me knowing what I know about government that didn't seem right.  I'm thinking to myself no government ever seems to get rid of a tax once they have it and I was right.  The Democrats want to keep the 30 cent tax and add on the mileage tax.  I'm not saying any one party is better than the other as they both seem to keep growing government, but come on people wake up and stop voting for the democrats. Isn't giving half of the money I make back to the government enough?

A tax per mile? Americans should not allow GPS tracking of cars, trucks
By Tammy Bruce

Published December 29, 2014
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Editor's note: The following column first appeared in The Washington Times.

Watch out — as the new year approaches the powers-that-be always unleash a new hoard of laws, rules and regulations. Already, we're seeing another Orwellian idea re-emerge from its musty cave: The notion that drivers should pay an additional tax (they'll call it a fee) based on how many miles you drive.



Causing a stir as far back as in 2001 when Oregon noticed that more fuel-efficient cars would impact gas tax revenue, politicians began to scramble to figure out how to use your driving as an excuse to take whatever money you have left in your wallet.

At least 18 states are now considering bills to do just this, and Oregon has initiated a pilot program. CBS News reports, "The Oregon pilot programs seeks to demonstrate whether a per-mile tax is a practical possibility. The state is finding 5,000 volunteers to pay 1.5-cents-per-mile tax instead of the 30 cents-per-gallon gas tax. Devices will report their mileage to the state.

It's not just fairness that is at issue, it's also about privacy. I contend this is a double-whammy by the government, which always wants to control two things: your money and your life.
Other states are trying smaller pilot projects, including Nevada, Washington, Minnesota and California. The U.S. Senate passed a bill calling for a $90 million pilot project involving 10,000 cars. But the House leadership killed the bill after complaints from rural lawmakers that such a tax would unfairly penalize their constituents, who tend to drive farther than city drivers."

It's not just fairness that is at issue, it's also about privacy. I contend this is a double-whammy by the government, which always wants to control two things: your money and your life.

As local, state and the federal government get bigger and, consequently, more incompetent, they see the average citizen as more of a threat. There are two ways to control that threat: eliminate disposable income, which funds your personal freedom, including political activities. The other is to condition you into accepting a complete elimination of your personal privacy and allowing the government to know when and where you go at all times.

Consider this: The programs being suggested or tested to track your mileage involve installing a GPS tracking device to determine not just how far you go, but which roads you use, how fast you go, and whether or not you're a "good" driver, i.e., how fast you come up to stops.

The notion of GPS tracking of drivers should disturb everyone and should be rejected as an unacceptable, even Kafkaesque, attempt of government to establish a fascist system of surveillance and control.

The whining of politicians that they're running out of highway repair funds is also rather ridiculous considering the money spent on that very issue through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, also known as the Crap Sandwich. Tens of billions of dollars were allocated for projects such as road and bridge repair, yet we're now being told that, well, we need road and bridge repair.

In addition to Oregon, California is considering a mileage "fee" plan as well. Here again, as The Los Angeles Times reports, "Millions of vehicles also would have to be equipped with odometer readers, smartphone applications or global positioning technology that would transmit data to state officials or a contractor, who would then bill owners for the miles traveled. Privacy advocates are especially concerned that — in this era of data mining and well-publicized credit card breaches — the technology could be used to learn not only how far people go, but when and where."

You think? One of the more silly claims is a mileage fee would replace the gas tax. Jonathan Gruber must have assured someone that we're stupid. We all know, once a tax is implemented, it is never removed.

It also seems, once politicians get their hands on our money, there is no restriction or common sense used on how to spend it. Before we hike taxes and use mandatory, constant monitoring of the individual to apply that tax, how about eliminating the wasteful spending of politicians?

The Government Accountability Office has just released a report stating that eliminating unnecessary duplication within various departments could save hundreds of millions of dollars annually. Information Week reminds us of Sen. Tom Coburn's "Wastebook 2014": "Some examples of wasteful spending in Coburn's report include more than $8,000 that the DOD spent on helicopter parts, which actually cost less than $500; Department of Justice's (DOJ) Criminal Division paying $544,338 for a premium LinkedIn account; and the National Science Foundation's (NSF) $202,000 investment to study why Wikipedia is sexist."

In a story titled, "The outrage of wasteful government spending," Newsday reports Medicare is considered "a "high risk program" because an estimated $44 billion of its 2012 payouts were improper."

These are just a few examples, but are an important reminder of the sea of government corruption and incompetence in which we are all drowning. Now these very same people spend a great deal of their time figuring out how to take more of our money and freedom.

The new year of 2015 could be one in which the citizen could accomplish a great deal. At the top of our "to do" list should be a reminder to make sure our state and federal representatives know tracking and taxing us like a government-owned beast of burden is unequivocally unacceptable.


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  :cheerleader:  Gas at $1.50 a gallon coming soon as prices plummet.

 
 :coffee: .......
For the first time since 2009, the national average for a gallon of regular gasoline will drop below the $2 mark.

 

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yea, I'll believe that when I actually see it!!!!!!!!

I'm with Glenn.  There will be some bug that gets hit by a wind turbine or any other catastrophe to use as an excuse.
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well I done seen it. gas down under 2 bucks. several stations on university ave in Fridley.........1.99-9!!!!!!
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    Understanding lower Oil Prices :scratch:                                                                                                                  

       OPEC Is Ready to Rumble training-087 Over Saudi Output 

Pressure is building on Saudi Arabia to rein in its oil output after a year of pumping full tilt, setting up the most contentious OPEC meeting in years.


A year ago, the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries surprised markets with a Saudi-led strategy of keeping output high to win market share and squeeze presumably weaker rivals in the U.S. and elsewhere out of the market.

But with those rivals proving resilient and prices falling to new lows, members including Iran have decided the effort was a failure and are preparing to press Saudi Arabia directly to pull back on production at the group’s meeting this week.

Discontent is even building inside Saudi Arabia over the strategy. Still, the oil-rich kingdom isn’t likely to relent NO!  :surrender: —in part because it is wary of rising Iranian output as sanctions are lifted. The result is likely to be a continued standoff that keeps the market glutted and prices weak.

“The global surplus still exists and there is still a strong possibility that oil prices can retest the lows made during the downturn,” said Dominick Chirichella, an analyst at the Energy Management Institute in New York, in a note last week.

Tensions within OPEC have mounted training-087 as Saudi Arabia contributes to a global glut of oil with record production levels. :happy1: Crude prices, weighed down by the oversupply, have averaged $56 a barrel in 2015, down from $97 in 2014, gutting the finances of OPEC members such as Venezuela, Algeria and Angola and threatening their ability to keep up production.

This week, Iran is expected to demand that Saudi Arabia cut back from production levels of more than 10 million barrels a day.

“At the next OPEC meeting, [Iran oil minister :fudd: Bijan Zanganeh] will urge Saudi to reduce its production,” :moon: Ali Kardor, head of investment at the state-run National Iranian Oil Co., told The Wall Street Journal on Saturday.

Mr. Zanganeh and the Iranian oil ministry couldn’t be reached for comment.

Venezuela, Nigeria and Angola are also expected to force discussions over production cuts.

Saudi Arabia, which long acted as swing producer supporting the market when necessary with output cuts, has signaled it won’t alter course. Its new approach is a long-term strategy designed to force out supplies from non-OPEC producers thought to need higher prices to keep pumping, :happy1: such as those getting crude from deepwater projects and oil sands.

Privately, Saudi officials acknowledge they too have been distressed :taz: by the persistence of low oil prices, which has forced the kingdom to spend down some of its reserves of hard currency. They are considering their options “because there is a growing discontent in the kingdom about the low oil price,” said an oil official from a Persian Gulf country.

But Saudi Arabia is unlikely to consider cutting until June 2016 at the earliest, when Iran’s ability to return to the market and the effect on prices becomes clear, analysts and officials say. Answers to questions about demand, especially surrounding an economic slowdown in China, the world’s biggest consumer of energy, will also be clearer then.

“It will be likely a heated meeting,” training-087 said an OPEC delegate from a Persian Gulf country. “But OPEC will not change course unless there is a commitment from the main non-OPEC producers to cut.”

Saudi officials didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Analysts say the kingdom likely has enough of a financial cushion to weather the low oil prices for now.

The most likely outcome of the meeting, OPEC delegates have said, is an increase in the group’s production target to about 31 million barrels a day, up from 30 million barrels a day, to accommodate the re-induction of Indonesia to the group—a move that won’t change the world’s supply-demand balance.

Persian Gulf oil officials have said they want stable prices between $60 and $80 a barrel, without price spikes back up to levels that support high-cost producers.

Achieving that balance is difficult, analysts say. Overall, global investment in exploration and production has fallen by 20% this year, reaching levels last seen in 2011, according to the International Energy Agency. American production has declined almost half a million barrels a day since April, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. U.S. output averaged 9.1 million barrels a day in October.

A huge, unmanaged fall in non-OPEC production could set up a “shooting themselves in the foot scenario” in which prices spike more than the kingdom wants, Norway’s DNB Bank ASA said in a note last week.

On the other hand, DNB said, producers such as BP PLC, Royal Dutch Shell PLC and others say they have reduced the costs of their operations to be profitable at lower prices. That could usher in a period of prices below what Saudi Arabia wants.

“If all these companies succeed, the normalized oil price may be even lower,” DNB said.

U.S. crude for January delivery settled at $41.71 a barrel Friday on the New York Mercantile Exchange, while Brent crude, the global benchmark, ended at $44.86 a barrel.

Another factor keeping prices low, analysts say, is the price war that has broken out among OPEC members. Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are offering to pay for the shipping and even insurance on deliveries for customers in Asia, where the competition has been particularly fierce. The competition has also spread to Europe.

That outlook is testing OPEC’s most vulnerable members.

Venezuela, which has some of the world’s largest crude reserves and depends on oil for about 95% of its annual government revenue, has seen production fall by about 350,000 barrels a day since 2008, to about 2.6 million barrels a day, according to a recent study by the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University.

Angola was forced to slash its 2015 budget by a quarter.

“No one is happy with the current situation,” said a Persian Gulf country official. “The lower oil prices are lasting longer than initially expected and everyone wants the price to bounce back up soon.”

 :reporter; ........"And Now You Know The Rest Of The Story" :happy1:
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What ticks me off it, the lower gas prices are in the middle of winter when I don't have anywhere to go  :doah:
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Don't be :cry: babys'. Enjoy the prices while you can :happy1:

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Don't be :cry: babys'. Enjoy the prices while you can :happy1:


this coming from a guy dats probably got his hand in da cookie jar!!!!!!!!! in the most corrupt state of the union!!!!!!!!!! lol!
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Don't be :cry: babys'. Enjoy the prices while you can :happy1:



Don't comingle your words :doah:
this coming from a guy dats probably got his hand in da cookie jar!!!!!!!!! in the most corrupt state unions of the unionstate!!!!!!!!!! lol!
                             
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yea, I'll believe that when I actually see it!!!!!!!!

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   Don't look now Glenn but............. :doah:

    $1.50 gasoline is here, and $1 could be next  :cheerleader:

12/1/15

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Gas prices are plunging around the country, with the national average falling in 24 out of the past 30 days, according to AAA. The price of a gallon of regular now stands at $2.04 nationally, down 14¢ compared to one month ago and 74¢ lower than this time last year. In early 2015, the national average dropped near the $2 mark but never crossed it. But AAA and others anticipate that we’ll dip below the $2 threshold within a matter of days.

Many gas stations are already well below that watermark. “Nearly two-thirds of the nation’s 130,000 gas stations now are selling that gasoline for under $2/gallon, a remarkable change from a year ago, when 0% of stations were under $2,” GasBuddy reported this week. Drivers in Michigan, Missouri, and Ohio are paying the nation’s lowest prices, with averages of about $1.80 to $1.82 per gallon. At the same time, gas stations in pricier states are keeping the average above $2 for the time being.

In some extraordinary cases, the price of a gallon of regular is much lower than that—like under $1.50. Several gas stations in parts of Texas are posting prices of $1.40 to $1.45 per gallon, according to GasBuddy. CNN reported on Monday that the nation’s cheapest gas is being pumped out of a Sam’s Club gas station in Lafayette, Indiana, where a gallon of regular costs an astonishingly cheap $1.39.

Prices are likely to get cheaper still, as earlier forecasts have called for fuel costs to keep dropping at least through the end of the year. Last week, a 24/7 Wall St. story noted that a range of factors, including increased oil refinery output, low gas taxes, and cheap oil prices due to a global surplus, “could drive the price toward $1 in some states.”

Drivers in the Midwest and Gulf states are the ones most likely to see gas prices continue to plunge and perhaps even reach the $1 mark in the weeks and months ahead. But no matter where you live, gas prices have gotten much cheaper this fall. For example, a gallon of regular is $2.38 today in Alaska, on average, compared to $3.51 a year ago. The average per-gallon price in California is now $2.70, down more than $1 compared to July.
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yea....yea.. here in the frozen tundra its back up to 2.09. crooks!!!!!!
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yea....yea.. here in the frozen tundra its back up to 2.09. crooks!!!!!!

Must be a union station.  Still a $1.94 here ;)
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yea....yea.. here in the frozen tundra its back up to 2.09. crooks!!!!!!

Must be a union station.  Still a $1.94 here ;)
naw more like a station probably owned or gas supplied by the koch brothers. must need more cash to funnel to the republicans!!!!!!! ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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$1.93

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                   Save on gas! Just leave for work a little earlier.

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Save on gas! Just leave for work a little earlier.

                                  $200 OFF this week :happy1:

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That store is 12 miles out of my way.  Was 2.09 in my home town. Big time Republican town always pushing by local. Filled in red wing for 1.99.
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Na the $2.09 station gets its gas from the same supplier but the union n run gas station will just try and make others believe there gas is better hence the price increase.  ;)
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Na, them gas station employees are the ones trying to get to 15 bucks per hour so they can be union! ;)
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Na, them gas station employees are the ones trying to get to 15 bucks per hour so they can be union! ;)

A bit :offtopic: .....But a quick reply that Glenn may appreciate:

Judge dismisses lawsuit against Scott Walker over minimum wage.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/judge-dismisses-lawsuit-against-scott-walker-over-minimum-wage-b99626372z1-359590001.html
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I wish he was our governor  :happy1:
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I wish he was our governor  :happy1:
wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills first!!; ;) :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: he's just fine where he is at. :happy1:
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OPEC Unity Shattered as Saudi-Led Policy Leads to No Limits  :happy1:



OPEC abandoned all pretense this week of acting as a cartel. It’s now every member for itself. :moon:


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At a chaotic meeting Friday in Vienna that was expected to last four hours but expanded to nearly seven, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries tossed aside the idea of limiting production to control prices. Instead, it went all in for the one-year-old Saudi Arabia-led policy of pumping, pumping, pumping until rivals -- external, such as Russia and U.S. shale drillers, as well as internal -- are squeezed out of market share.

“Lots of people said that OPEC was dead; OPEC itself just confirmed it,” Jamie Webster, a Washington-based oil analyst for IHS Inc., said in Vienna.

OPEC has set a production target almost without interruption since 1982, though member countries often ignored it and pumped well above it. The ceiling of 30 million barrels a day, in place since 2011 and now abandoned as too rigid, is no exception. OPEC output has outstripped it for 18 consecutive months, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Now the organization says it will keep pumping as much as it does now -- about 31.5 million barrels a day -- effectively endorsing limitless output.

The oversupply has sent the price of Brent, a global oil benchmark, to a six-year low, triggering the worst slump in the energy sector since the 2008 world financial crisis. It’s cut the profits of major oil companies such as Exxon Mobil Corp. and BP Plc in half while crude-rich countries such as Mexico and Russia have watched their currencies plunge and their coffers shrink.

On Friday, there was no talk of even setting a production target that member countries could then disregard.

‘It’s Ceilingless’


“Effectively, it’s ceilingless,” said Iranian Oil Minister Bijan Namdar Zanganeh. “Everyone does whatever they want.”


Emmanuel Ibe Kachikwu, the Nigerian minister, reinforced the message, saying the market shouldn’t worry about the “semantics” of targets or real production.

“We aren’t going to go back to a cartel and work against the customers -- that time has passed,” said United Arab Emirates Minister Suhail Al Mazrouei.

Most of the market “doesn’t have any ceiling,” Iraqi Oil Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi told reporters. “Americans don’t have any ceiling. Russians don’t have any ceiling. Why should OPEC have a ceiling?”

The prospect of OPEC, which accounts for roughly 40 percent of the world’s oil production, taking U.S. TV personality Sarah Palin’s advice to “drill, baby, drill” sent crude prices further downward. The U.S. benchmark dropped 5.7 percent between 8:14 a.m. and 9:06 a.m. New York time on Friday, hovering around $40 a barrel the rest of the session. On June 30, 2014, the price was $105.37 a barrel.

The oversupply is likely to continue in the new year. Iran, for years under sanctions related to its nuclear program, has promised to lift its production to as much as 4 million barrels a day by the end of 2016, up from about 3.3 million barrels a day currently.

Acrimonious End


The meeting on Friday at times looked as if it might be headed to an acrimonious end, similar to a gathering in June 2011 when OPEC was unable to agree on policy and ministers openly attacked each other. At the time, Saudi Arabian Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi said he personally had had one of his “worst-ever” meetings.


No official would go that far to describe this conference, yet when ministers and delegates left the OPEC building, near the iconic Vienna State Opera house, they were speechless and grim. Within an hour, some of the them, including representatives of Saudi Arabia and Iran, were heading to the airport. Al-Naimi said he was traveling to Paris to take part in climate-change talks. Delegates from Venezuela, which pushed hard to cut the old ceiling by about five percent, would only say OPEC “didn’t decide anything,” a sign of the deep frustration with the new policies in the cash-strapped South American country.

Officials nonetheless did their best to conceal any division. Asked what arguments, if any, went on inside the small meeting room where OPEC ministers seclude themselves without the presence of aides, Iran’s Zanganeh simply said, “There were discussions.”

That was most likely polite understatement, as Iran’s rival, Saudi Arabia, carried the day. This time around, OPEC didn’t look like the group that American diplomat Henry Kissinger once described as able to blackmail national economies and whole industries. Instead, it looked like they might have spent the last few days bullying each other.



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