Hmong squirrel hunter

[Moving2thecountry]

I went out pheasant hunting today.  I didn't see any pheasants, but I got a rabbit.  Also got stuck.  A nice Hmong squirrel hunter helped me push my vehicle up the up an icy hill. 

He didn't get any squirrels.

[Moving2thecountry]

Where did you go to?

Prophel woods

[kenhuntin]

When I first saw this I could see the race flag rising but to set this post straight I have run into Hmong Hunters in the field and have always found them cordial. I applaud them on being such avid sportsman. We all need each other as only 9% of the U.S. population advocate the shooting sports. and 11% of the U.S. population aggressively support peta and the humane society. Funny story to add though: I was passing a Hmong hunter in Mora on an old log road and greeted him asking if he had bagged anything today. His reply was also no nothing but as he passed me he had a squirrel tail and tail feathers of a grouse protruding from his 1/2 full looking backpack. There are bad apples in every tree.

[Moving2thecountry]

This was my only encounter with a Hmong hunter in the field, though I once knew a Hmong hunter who gave me a form venison jerky--was salty but tasty.

[icebanger]

i have came across them several times from poaching fish to tresspasing on land i hunt on ...funny they never speak english when there breaking the law... i ran into one in mora that ended up being a real bad human being..i know it sounds raceists but i do not trust them to many bad encounters with them.....

[Moving2thecountry]

i have came across them several times from poaching fish to trespassing on land i hunt on ...funny they never speak English when there breaking the law... i ran into one in Mora that ended up being a real bad human being..i know it sounds racists but i do not trust them to many bad encounters with them.....

I've seen some Vietnamese taking bass before opener.  But my barber is Vietnamese....gives me a good haircut.

[Mayfly]

i have came across them several times from poaching fish to tresspasing on land i hunt on ...funny they never speak english when there breaking the law... i ran into one in mora that ended up being a real bad human being..i know it sounds raceists but i do not trust them to many bad encounters with them.....

Thats funny that you do not trust "them". There are a lot more people with your same skin color breaking hunting and fishing laws out there than there are people from different backgrounds than yourself.

I'm willing to bet you know nothing about "them", who there are, where they come from and what hunting and fishing means to them. I have a very good friend who is hmong and the amount of harrasment that he has to put up with out in the field is disgusting. The latest was a squirrel hunting outting with his Dad and brother They returned to their car to find four tires slashed. I could go on and on.....



Individuals listed have been convicted of violating Minnesota Game & Fish laws.

 http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/enforcement/revocations.html

[22lex]

i have came across them several times from poaching fish to tresspasing on land i hunt on ...funny they never speak english when there breaking the law... i ran into one in mora that ended up being a real bad human being..i know it sounds raceists but i do not trust them to many bad encounters with them.....

Thats funny that you do not trust "them". There are a lot more people with your same skin color breaking hunting and fishing laws out there than there are people from different backgrounds than yourself.

I'm willing to bet you know nothing about "them", who there are, where they come from and what hunting and fishing means to them. I have a very good friend who is hmong and the amount of harrasment that he has to put up with out in the field is disgusting. The latest was a squirrel hunting outting with his Dad and brother They returned to their car to find four tires slashed. I could go on and on.....



Individuals listed have been convicted of violating Minnesota Game & Fish laws.

 http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/enforcement/revocations.html

Great example Tim. Alot of non-Hmong names on there.

Not to jump off subject, but take a look down the list and it looks like Santa took a reindeer out of season. (Fred Claus)

[Woody]

Quote from Tim:

I'm willing to bet you know nothing about "them", who there are, where they come from and what hunting and fishing means to them.

Ask any Vietnam vet know worked with them and they'll likely tell you we owe them more than we can ever repay.  I didn't know much about them until I did a search and came up with this:
 
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Kenhuntin said it best "There are bad apples in every tree".

[Moving2thecountry]

Ask any Vietnam vet know worked with them and they'll likely tell you we owe them more than we can ever repay.  I didn't know much about them until I did a search and came up with this:
 

I know a VietNam vet who fought alongside the Hmong.  He said they were very brave--much more brave then the South Vietnamese

[Moving2thecountry]

I'm willing to bet you know nothing about "them", who there are, where they come from and what hunting and fishing means to them. I have a very good friend who is hmong and the amount of harrasment that he has to put up with out in the field is disgusting. The latest was a squirrel hunting outting with his Dad and brother They returned to their car to find four tires slashed. I could go on and on.....

It is infuriating when people treat all people from an ethnic group like that.  I've seen less shop clerks give preferential treatment to whites over Hmong, and that was bad enough.  Slashing tires is just too much. 

Stories like that make me wonder about what really happened to that Hmong hunter in Wisconsin.

[BiggA]

I'm willing to bet you know nothing about "them", who there are, where they come from and what hunting and fishing means to them. I have a very good friend who is hmong and the amount of harrasment that he has to put up with out in the field is disgusting. The latest was a squirrel hunting outting with his Dad and brother They returned to their car to find four tires slashed. I could go on and on.....

It is infuriating when people treat all people from an ethnic group like that.  I've seen less shop clerks give preferential treatment to whites over Hmong, and that was bad enough.  Slashing tires is just too much. 

Stories like that make me wonder about what really happened to that Hmong hunter in Wisconsin.

I hope I completely misinterperated that statement, but it almost sounds like you are justifying the murder of several fellow sportsman.   
What happened reguardless of what was said was just that murder.

[Auggie]

Ken said it best. Bad apples in EVERY bunch. I would have to add how ever that as long as someone can speak the English language and understand the law, they have every right to enjoy our outdoors. This should be a basic requirement before anyone is allowed to even become a citizen.

[Woody]

 

[icebanger]

ok i guess i chose my words wrong  looking back on what i said that i dont trust them now that i think about it i dont trust any hunter i dont know...i read this thread and started thinking back on things that have happened to me ...when i was a kid i used to fish the coon rapids dam every day. the worst thing that ever happened to me there was a hmong fisherman pulled a knife on me because i told him he could not keep the bass he was catching(the season was not open)..i went and told the park ranger and he got the cops out there and funny he could not speak english to the cops(he didnt have a problem talking to me)then he blamed the fish on his kids but i watched him catch them oh and he didnt  have a fishing license...so tim if you would like to hear more problems ive had hunting or fishing around hmong or any other so called sportsmen id love to tell you them im not judging all hmong i know there are bad apples in every race..oh and moving2thecountry i hope i took your post wrong ....i got to see said murder in action the year before he killed our fellow sportsmen and woman in wisc..he trespassed on my private land near mora breaking the law didnt mean crap to him...calling someone a name does not justify murder in cold blood...

[Moving2thecountry]

I'm willing to bet you know nothing about "them", who there are, where they come from and what hunting and fishing means to them. I have a very good friend who is hmong and the amount of harrasment that he has to put up with out in the field is disgusting. The latest was a squirrel hunting outting with his Dad and brother They returned to their car to find four tires slashed. I could go on and on.....

It is infuriating when people treat all people from an ethnic group like that.  I've seen less shop clerks give preferential treatment to whites over Hmong, and that was bad enough.  Slashing tires is just too much. 

Stories like that make me wonder about what really happened to that Hmong hunter in Wisconsin.

I hope I completely misinterperated that statement, but it almost sounds like you are justifying the murder of several fellow sportsman.   
What happened reguardless of what was said was just that murder.

I don't know what happened.  Killing somebody over words is certainly murder, whether or not they were sportsmen. 

Since a jury found him guilty, I guess I have to trust the system. 

But Tim's story and visceral loathing of Hmong makes me wonder if he was fired at first, in which case, it would be self defense.  Again, it's probably best to trust the jury who heard the evidence.

But Tim's story about slashing tires is just wrong. 

Anyway, my one experience with a lone Hmong hunter in the field is that he was a good Samaritan.  The land he hunted wasn't very good for squirrels, he probably will never come back, and yet he gave me a hand.  This doesn't make all Hmong good, but it shows that there are some good apples as well.

[Mayfly]

How about one time they were fishing from shore and a boat drove by slow and threw things at them and yelling who knows what at them....

What it comes down to is just treat people how you would expect to be treated and judge people as individuals.