Rogue Snowmobilers Update!!!

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Here's the latest updated article with statements made by those arrested.  Sounds like these guys are real winners....


Suspect in Waupaca County deer slaughter says he ran down another on way home

Gannett Wisconsin Newspapers • January 17, 2009

   

WAUPACA — One of the three Weyauwega men charged with killing five deer by running them down with snowmobiles told a detective he ran down another deer on his way home and field dressed it for the meat.
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Rory Kuenzi, 24, made his initial appearance Friday on felony charges of mistreatment of animals and vehicle theft. He was held on a $25,000 cash bond.

His brother, Robby Kuenzi, 23, and Nicholas D. Hermes, 22, also are charged with multiple felony counts of mistreatment of animals. Robby Kuenzi also made his initial appearance today and was held on a $1,000 cash bond. Hermes appeared in court Thursday and was released on a $15,000 signature bond.

Rory Kuenzi, who also is the focus of an ongoing investigation into a 2004 hit-and-run crash that killed 20-year-old pedestrian Kevin McCoy, was interviewed Thursday by Waupaca County Sheriff’s Detective Sgt. John Mocadlo.

He told Mocadlo he hit two of the five deer that were found dead, and he did a “burn out” on one of the animals, according to the criminal complaint.

He also said he struck a deer in the back legs, jumped off his snowmobile and pinned it to the ground by sitting on it, then tied it by the neck to a tree with the help of his brother.

They intended to come back and kill the deer for its meat, Rory Kuenzi said, but decided later not to do so. The deer strangled itself trying to get free.

Kuenzi also told Mocadlo he stole the snowmobile he was riding when the deer were slaughtered, but ditched it in the woods when he and his brother became worried they were suspects in the deer killings. He also admitted to stealing ice fishing shanties with Hermes.

The slaughter has sparked outrage from snowmobilers, hunters and animal lovers, and rewards totaling more than $12,000 have been offered for information leading to the suspects or their convictions.

Investigators found three of the deer in a field Saturday about five miles south of Waupaca. A snowmobile had stopped atop one of them and ripped open its stomach, said Ted Dremel, a state Department of Natural Resources warden based in Waupaca County.

A fourth deer had broken legs and was euthanized. The fifth deer was dragged from the field and tied to a tree about 25 feet from a road. It strangled itself trying to get free.

The dead deer were two bucks and three does. One was a fawn.

Police, acting on tips, found the stolen snowmobile, near snowmobile trails in Mukwa. The sled was reported stolen Dec. 26 from outside the Kegles Bowling Center in Manawa.

Neither Nicholas Hermes nor Robby Kuenzi has a criminal record, according to online court records, though Robby Kuenzi was ticketed in 2003 for shining wild animals.

Rory Kuenzi was convicted in 2005 of substantial battery and sentenced to a year in prison on the conviction in December 2007 when his probation was revoked.
Each of the mistreatment of animal charges carries a maximum penalty of 3 1/2 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. Rory Kuenzi’s vehicle theft charge carries a maximum six years in prison and $10,000 fine.

[JCAMERON]

I would question a judge that wouldn't charge them to the fullest, and I pray that it happens. This sickens me!

[sandmannd]

I agree, this is a hanious crime and needs to be punished all the way to the fullest. The morans are PIGS!! and have no respect for what nature gives us.

[kingfisher1]

I agree as well.  They shouldbe punished with an upward punishment.

[finch]

f that noise.  turn them loose in an open field and let some enraged citizens get on snowmobiles and chase them down.  maybe make that one fella lay on the ground and do a "burn out" on his back.  but maybe I'm just too much of an 'eye for an eye' kinda guy.

[kingfisher1]

f that noise.  turn them loose in an open field and let some enraged citizens get on snowmobiles and chase them down.  maybe make that one fella lay on the ground and do a "burn out" on his back.  but maybe I'm just too much of an 'eye for an eye' kinda guy.

you're not the only one!   

[beeker]

how about we just castrate them ( tie the danglies to a sled and let sled take care em off) and ensure that in a few years they don't start popping out the next generation of government dependants.

[UncleDave]

These are some sick people.  Animals kill to survive.  These morons did it just for kicks and in a very cruel way.  The ONLY reason they MAY get a sentence compensatory to the crime is because this was made public.  Throw away the key!

[Jeremy (Yeti)]

Who ties up a deer to a tree? I can't believe some people, I think we should tie that guy to a tree and beat him with baseball bats.

[sjohnnie26]

I'm with Yeti and finch.  Eye for an Eye punishments would work well in this situation. 

[kingfisher1]

Who ties up a deer to a tree? I can't believe some people, I think we should tie that guy to a tree and beat him with baseball bats.

agreed!  Only we have to tie the rope around his neck so when he struggled to get away, he stangles himself like the deer did.  We'll tie him up and come back later to beat him though.......  That's only fair considering........

[jd mn/nd]

Any of you ever been on a farm? Ever been in the calf pen at feeding time? What does the calf do when the bottle is empty? Do you see where I am going with this? IF not I will be a bit more explicite, tie them up naked in the calf pen, when the bottle is empty the calf usually bunts it with their noses, I would imagine that about two weeks of that they would never do another damaging thing to any animal, otherwise we could tie them up behind the sleds by thier nads, and play crack the whip!!!!! Or better yet we can tie them up by thier necks like they did to the one deer and then take another rope and tie one end to the snowmobile and the other to thier "boys" and take off really fast with the sled!!!! One way or the other they would feel pain, I am sure it would only be on the end that was attached to the sled as apparently they have no brains. You just got to wonder what kind of parents raised idiots like this and then turned them loose in the world only to breed and raise more idiots!!! I think we should do the same to the parents that raised the idiots too!!!

[HUNTER2]

It sounds like they will be trouble there whole life. I'd say give them every year possible. Thing is, we have to pay to feed and house them also. Send them down to Arizona and that sherrif will take good care of them. We need more sherriff's like that.

[DroptineDC18]

I grew up in Manawa, WI(where the snowmobile was stolen from), which is very near where these punks were from.   Their town was our rivalry in everything.  Now I hate that town even more.  I say they need more punishment.  Or I like they eye for an eye idea that a lot of MNO posters are presenting.

[crue86]

 They should get every year in prison (MAX) that the judge can give. It seems they will never learn. Give NO time of for good behavior. Strip any benifit of EVER EVER EVER owning a snowmobile-atv-boat. And never let them have the privelage of ever hunting or fishing the rest of there lives. To do any harm to them would be just stooping to there behavior.

[kingfisher1]

They should get every year in prison (MAX) that the judge can give. It seems they will never learn. Give NO time of for good behavior. Strip any benifit of EVER EVER EVER owning a snowmobile-atv-boat. And never let them have the privelage of ever hunting or fishing the rest of there lives. To do any harm to them would be just stooping to there behavior.

If you are given jail or prison time in Wisconsin, you don't get time taken off for "good behavior."

you get 30 years, you serve 30 years.

[Big_D]

Hang 'em all...let God sort them out.

Unbelievable update!

[finch]

I don't really think the "violence will bring us down to their level" thing should fit this particular situation.  that is the ONLY way some people will learn, to suffer just like their victims did. 

anyone who disagrees should rethink calling themselves "sportsmen."

[crue86]

 Don't get me wrong My brother was murdered 8 years ago in a way that is similar to how these deer must have suffered and what went through my mind was'nt VERY nice, but in all reality if i would have acted how i felt it would have only put me in in the very same situation and worse than what these people have done. I would have been considered by law the same as them. And in MN good time is given (it shouldn't be) I do consider my self a sportsman even though this is how i feel. Just my opinion though

[finch]

this situation is just one example.  there are hundreds if not thousands of other animals poached/killed illegally all over.  this is different.  this is some punks who haven't grown out of their hellraising stage of their mid-teens, killing deer for the fun of it.  these are the same deer that we bust our asses in the fields making food plots for, managing other lands for, striving to keep their lands theirs.  but for this we say "let the law handle it, jail time will be good for them"

I realize an outdoors forum isn't the place to present this, but I think we need to make crimes like this MORE punishable than others.  as a fairly avid outdoorsman I am disgusted by this and just don't think that jail time and a fine is enough.  what happened to community service?  or prison farms?  things have changed from the past, and not for the better.  we need to get back to the roots our big tree of America is held up by.

anyone with me here?

[JCAMERON]

I'm there with ya finch. I do think that WE might be a little more upset about this particular situation because mostly all of us have reserved feelings towards these animals and the outdoors in general... Totally agreed though that certain crimes should be punished with hard a$$ work that the community can benefit from.