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Offline Bufflehead

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 Tackle facing 6 gun charges
2 assault-style rifles seized; Smith unhappy with 'distraction'

By Susan Kuczka, Courtney Flynn and John Mullin
Tribune staff reporters
Published December 14, 2006, 11:34 PM CST


A cache of unregistered guns and assault rifles—some loaded—was found Thursday inside the home of Bears defensive tackle Terry "Tank" Johnson when Gurnee police raided his house while he was at Halas Hall preparing for Sunday's Tampa Bay game.

The news sent shock waves through Halas Hall, where coach Lovie Smith worried if it would be a distraction to the team's bid for a Super Bowl championship.







Johnson cannot be suspended by the team under the labor agreement, and punishment by the league—a fine and/or a suspension—likely would come only after a conviction, according to an NFL spokesman. But Smith could withhold playing time or make Johnson inactive if he believes it is necessary.

"I'm not going to discipline a guy until I find out what I'm supposed to be disciplining him for," Smith said Thursday.

Attempts to reach Johnson and his agent, Bill Heck, were unsuccessful.

Lake County authorities charged Johnson, 25, with six misdemeanor counts of unlawful possession of a weapon without a Firearm Owner's Identification card. The weapons seized during the raid included a .44 magnum Smith&Wesson revolver, a .50 caliber Desert Eagle handgun, a .45 caliber handgun, a .308 caliber Winchester rifle and two assault-style rifles—a Colt AR-15 and a .223 caliber.

The raid also resulted in the arrest of another man who was living in Johnson's home. Willie B. Posey, 26, was charged with felony possession of marijuana after police found more than 2 ounces of the illegal substance during the raid, authorities said. Posey is being held pending a bond hearing Friday.

Police said the raid was the result of an investigation that began Nov. 4 but declined to elaborate on what triggered the inquiry. Johnson's 25-year-old girlfriend and the couple's two children, ages 3 and 20 months, were at home during the raid, where some of the guns were in plain sight and "a lot" of ammunition was found, police said.

"As far as children being in danger … there were loaded weapons and some of them were accessible in the home," Gurnee Police Chief Robert Jones said. "So I think you could draw a conclusion there that yes, they were probably in danger."

If convicted of the charges, Johnson would face a fine. However, the charges could result in the revocation of his probation on a previous gun charge, authorities said.

Thursday's arrest was Johnson's third since the Bears picked him in the second round of the 2004 NFL draft out of the University of Washington.

Johnson posted a $100 bond, which was 10 percent of his $1,000 bond, Thursday night at the Gurnee Police Department after leaving team practice without commenting on the charges. He is scheduled to appear in court Jan. 9—only days before the Bears will play their first NFC playoff game at Soldier Field.

"Tank's really a good guy and he has worked so hard to do the right things," middle linebacker Brian Urlacher said. "… We'd really miss him if this ends up somehow in him being out. But the main thing is I just want him to be OK."

Smith expressed disappointment with what he called a "distraction" for his team as it prepares for Sunday's game at Soldier Field.

"I'm disappointed, of course, that something like this is coming up," Smith said. "We're constantly talking to our players about doing the right thing, and our players do the right thing most of the time."

The Bears already are without one starting defensive tackle because of Tommie Harris' ruptured hamstring that sent him to injured reserve for the remainder of the season. Johnson has 20 tackles and 3½ sacks this season.

What, if anything, the NFL may do in the Johnson situation remains to be seen. The league suspended cornerback Ricky Manning Jr. for the Nov. 26 game at New England because of a no-contest plea in a felony assault case, but the suspension came months after the incident.

The NFL typically waits until some resolution is reached in legal proceedings and discipline on the matter could stretch into next season.

"This will be reviewed under the terms of the personal-conduct policy … all the facts are relevant including a player's prior history," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said.

According to the language in the league's personal-conduct policy, Aiello explained the NFL is unlikely to suspend Johnson unless he is convicted.


Gurnee police and officers from the Northern Illinois Police Alarm System descended on the home about 11 a.m. with shields and armored vehicles, alarming neighbors, some of whom police had asked to evacuate the neighborhood.

An explosion was heard, rattling neighbors' homes, which police said was used as a diversionary tactic because of the threat of weapons being used during the raid.




"We knew there were weapons in the house … we also knew there were more than likely people in the house so we did not know what we would encounter," Jones said. "The officers took the necessary precautions for their safety and the safety of the neighborhood."

Johnson's previous skirmishes with the law appeared to have been resolved in March, when prosecutors dropped battery and resisting arrest charges.

Those charges had been filed against Johnson in February, when a police officer who scuffled with Johnson outside a Rush Street nightclub refused to proceed with the case, authorities said.

Johnson's February arrest also led to violation of probation charges being filed against him. He had been placed on 18 months' probation in November 2005 after he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor unlawful gun possession charge in Cook County, authorities said.

The violation of probation charges also were dismissed when the battery case was dropped, although new charges could be filed against Johnson because of his latest arrest, prosecutors said.


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"Lake County authorities charged Johnson, 25, with six misdemeanor counts of unlawful possession of a weapon without a Firearm Owner's Identification card."

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Now, I don't know what kinda a guy this player is

My question is about the
"FIREARM OWNER'S INDENTIFICATION CARD"

WTH is that?

Is this the beginning of the end of private gun ownership?

Glad I don't live in IL.

Raiding a person's house with armered cars, setting off explosives and taking guns any one of us could own right now.

Scary!


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Offline TNT

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  ???
OK KNUCKLEHEAD,
LIGHTEN UP will ya,
first off any reporter will research their unknowns before posting and frightening all others with the possibility of all of us being checked for guns. If you didn't know what the (FOID) was, research it,
it took me one minute to find out,  was as easy as type in,
IL. gun laws,
boom, there it all is,
IL. state law,
CHILD ACCESS PREVENTION_CAP
IL. state law holds gun owners responsible if they leave a gun easily accessible to a child.

LICENSE OR PERMIT TO PURCHASE.
IL. state law requires gun buyers to obtain a license (FOID) card prior to purchasing, the card is also required to own a firearm.

ASSAULT WEAPONS.
No state law on assault weapons in IL., but federal law does restrict some weapons.

it seems that you run and type and act like a panic monger here, apparently you read this and got in a frenzy and only some of the article sunk in, now go reread it,
the raid was the result of an investigation that began on Nov 4th, but they declined to elaborate on what set off the raid,  hmmmmm, flag one,
the raid resulted in the arrest of another man living in his home, on FELONY possesion of pot, hmmmmm flag two,
his previous skirmishes with the law were with battery and resisting arrest, along with unlawful gun possesion, hmmmmmm flag three, and four,
well if that isn't enough to check him out what do you need,

now in my book, loaded guns around young children,strike one, ???

doper living with you in your house with your young children, strike two, >:(

wanting to own and hold an assault weapon after being put on probation for unlawful gun possesion,he's out. :o

after reading this and a few other posts with the "whine" factor you put with them, it might be time to appoint you your god given MNO nick name,
AKA, KNUCKLEHEAD
TNT


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 ???  question, just a simple fact or logic, with all the firearms just in minnesota alone, what the chance of banning all guns from the legaly owned and registered guns? with out firearms to hunt with the state will lose more funding then they can realy account for ! i like there tallys for how much money they say that we each spend, do they ( the state d.n.r. realy know ) not likely! and as far as firearms and  child safty, it begins with adult firearms safty and training along with common sense . anyone that would put a child in danger with such a lack of sense should be banned from owning guns or even a pering knife. just my personal thoughts!!!!
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Offline Bufflehead

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Quote TNT

"OK KNUCKLEHEAD,
LIGHTEN UP will ya,"

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 If ya want to start with the name calling, take it to the PM's 

It was only a question about the ""FIREARM OWNER'S IDENTIFICATION CARD"


 I'm not for ANY! gun control acts...hold the owner/user responsible...not the gun!

 As long as you want to debate the rest of it

 Quote from the news clip
"Gurnee police and officers from the Northern Illinois Police Alarm System descended on the home about 11 a.m. with shields and armored vehicles, alarming neighbors, some of whom police had asked to evacuate the neighborhood.

An explosion was heard, rattling neighbor's homes, which police said was used as a diversionary tactic because of the threat of weapons being used during the raid."

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 I find these action's a little excess in my opinion .

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"Lake County authorities charged Johnson, 25, with six misdemeanor counts of unlawful possession of a weapon without a Firearm Owner's Identification card."
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 It took all this show of force, using explosives, armored cars, swat team, alarm company, Etc.

 For 6 misdemeanor charges, which only warrented $100.00 bond..not even a felonie

 He is a Pro Football player, not some terrest looking to blow up something or a crack house full of killers.

 This whole thing for me revolves around gun rights. Not about his pot smoking body guard or something else.

 Ya, loaded guns shouldn't be excessable to children..I agree with that but I think they could have just waited for him to arrive home and confronted him as he got out of his car. They could have showed him a search warrent and  myself, I believe most would have complied. If not, take him down and arrest him. Then search his home.

 I see no need to evacuate his neighbors, use flash grenades and storm the home with what looks like something from the news clips from the war going on in Bagdad Iraq.

 Scary to me, to see that much force being used on our own citizen's for such minor charges. Reminds me of Nazi raids you see on Discovery channel

 I just think it could have been handled in much better way myself.

 Looks more like a publicity stunt by some public official to get this on the front page of the news paper


 
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