block funds/climate change

[Lee Borgersen]

.... Rep. Cravaack: Cut climate change education funds

WASHINGTON - U.S. Rep. Chip Cravaack is leading a Republican effort in the House to block funding for a climate change initiative that provides money to education programs around the nation, including at Carleton College in Northfield and the Como Zoo and Conservatory in St. Paul.

  here's the full story......................
http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/150877165.html

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[Fawkinnae]

I think he's an idiot who for some reason decided he knows more about science than a scientist.

[kenhuntin]

I will expound on this in a different way. Everyone has some sort of religion. The climate change religion folks and supposed scientists of which most are now conceding fault in their reports. cannot predict the high and low temperature that will occur tomorrow. If there are greenhouse gases enrobing the earth then would that not also filter out the rays from the sun inturn making the earth cooler from it's shade? How did the earth recover from being encased in ice? Global temperatures are not increasing and factual recordings actually show minute cooling globally.
I probably should not use the term global because the global warming religion people had to change the name of their religion to climate change because global warming is unsubstantiated.
Now any weather event is hearby a direct cause of whatever the hell climate change is.

[DDSBYDAY]

  Strongly agree!!!  Cut all funding to climate change.   It's a mechanism to create fear and raise revenue.  I agree with Ken 100%.  A false religion is a good way to look at it. 

[The General]

My question has always been "What is the temperature supposed to be?".  My biggest problem with funding something like this is that only one side of the story gets taught.  In this case the side of "Oh my God we are killing the earth" is the side getting preached.  Teach both points of view and then let people make up their own minds.  I'm sure the Government isn't giving money to fund the Scientists and education programs who say it's all a big hoax.

[Fawkinnae]

My question has always been "What is the temperature supposed to be?".  My biggest problem with funding something like this is that only one side of the story gets taught.  In this case the side of "Oh my God we are killing the earth" is the side getting preached.  Teach both points of view and then let people make up their own minds.  I'm sure the Government isn't giving money to fund the Scientists and education programs who say it's all a big hoax.

I believe the best science does not come with a bias. That's what science is, it's based on a scientific method. If there is a flaw in the method, eventually that will be identified. It's pretty obvious something is happening, whats being disputed is the consequences. But to ignore the whole thing would be crazy. Funding comes from lots of sources and some of those sources have an agenda. Frankly I hope that the consequences of climate change are far less series than the range of possibilities. 
But I would prefer to err on the side of caution, I don't see a down side to cleaner air and water.

[The General]

Whoo Hoo finally a topic of interest for the old Fawk Boy.   

I agree the Earth's temp has been changing up and down for it's entire life.  What leads you to believe you have anything to do with it or that you can change it?


Of course cleaner air and water is great homie, I wouldn't want you diving off the side of the boat in anything less.

[Fawkinnae]

Whoo Hoo finally a topic of interest for the old Fawk Boy.   
I agree the Earth's temp has been changing up and down for it's entire life.  What leads you to believe you have anything to do with it or that you can change it?
Of course cleaner air and water is great homie, I wouldn't want you diving off the side of the boat in anything less.

Yes but what is unique about the current trends in temp are the RATES OF CHANGE. I'm smart enough to know that I don't know more about climate change than a climate scientist.

How destructive or if we can do anything to change it? That I don't know.
And get this - I believe in evolution too.   

[The General]

Whoo Hoo finally a topic of interest for the old Fawk Boy.   
I agree the Earth's temp has been changing up and down for it's entire life.  What leads you to believe you have anything to do with it or that you can change it?
Of course cleaner air and water is great homie, I wouldn't want you diving off the side of the boat in anything less.

Yes but what is unique about the current trends in temp are the RATES OF CHANGE. I'm smart enough to know that I don't know more about climate change than a climate scientist.

How destructive or if we can do anything to change it? That I don't know.
And get this - I believe in evolution too.   

For every one climate scientist you can find that says it's a big deal I can find one that says it's not.  So whcih one should we believe?  Please don't tell me the one funded by Gore 

[Fawkinnae]

Actually it's more like 90% to 10%. And the 10% are funded by Fox News.

[The General]

So Fawk i just have to ask.  Back when the sailors where going to sail off the end of the Earth would you have been a believer?  How about The Earth as the center of the Universe?  Those where scientific consensus of the time.  
 
Well believe it or not, I'm guessing the news travels faster now than it did then. If I was some poor peasant in Europe I doubt very much that I would have had a clue what the scientists of the day were thinking. I probably would have trusted the guy who thought the cold I had should be treated by letting a leech suck on my arm for a while. Pretty hard to put myself back in that time.

And then of course you had to be careful what you said, wouldn't want to be burned as a witch or warlock.

[The General]

Dang Homie now your modifying my posts as yours.  At least you could have left a cold beer.