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Offline Lee Borgersen

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:fishing: Anglers adjusting to Minnesota’s new northern pike zones.

August 27, 2018  by:  Javier Serna   

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St. Paul — Minnesota’s new northern pike zone regulations are on their maiden voyage, having began with this year’s open-water season. But it could take more than a decade before the desired effects will be seen.


While there’s been skepticism :scratch: expressed from people who don’t believe the regulations will work as intended (increase the size structure and/or reduce the number of pike in certain lakes), the general attitude among anglers is a bit more optimistic.

“I have heard from some people that are OK with it and from some people that don’t really understand it, but I think overall, it’s been pretty well accepted,” said John Underhill, co-chair of the Minnesota Muskie and Pike Alliance. “Most people are hopeful that it will work, especially on those lakes that are having problems (with too many small pike). On the lakes that are already OK, it probably won’t make a big difference. But most lakes have a pike issue. They have been pounded for 100 years.”

Rather than a statewide rule, the new zones attempt to take into account the factors affecting pike populations in three different parts of the state. The regulations are tailored for the conditions in each zone.

Under the new rules, there are north-central, northeast, and south zones.

In the north-central zone, there’s more of an issue with an overabundance of smaller, “hammer-handle” pike – fish that are so numerous that the population becomes stunted, but also can impact other species, such as walleyes. The majority of the state falls within this category, where anglers may keep 10 pike, but not more than two greater than 26 inches. All pike between 22 and 26 inches must be released. Spearers in this zone may take one fish in the protected slot or two larger than 26 inches.

“Most people think it’s only about pike,” Underhill said. “It’s going to help pike, but it’s also going to help (the stocking of) walleyes.”

Brad Parsons, the Minnesota DNR’s Fisheries chief, :police: agreed that high numbers of small pike can hurt walleye-stocking efforts.

“When you’re dealing with an abundant, small pike population, walleye stocking is more challenging,” Parsons said. “They’re feeding on the same things that walleyes and bass are feeding on: yellow perch.”

Pike also have been known to feed on small walleyes. And Don Pereira, the recently retired fisheries chief, said when discussing a new walleye-stocking regimen that will rely more on fry than fingerlings that the use of fingerlings could be evaluated on an individual-lake basis where pike numbers respond to the new pike zone changes in the future.

But Parsons cautioned that it could take a while before the effects are seen, particularly in this zone, where there’s the most to gain.

“If you think about it, when we have done special regulations in the past, we have them in place for 10 years before we expect to see changes,” he said. “And we recognize that not every lake is going to benefit from this. I think it’s a matter of patience and people taking advantage of the opportunity to harvest more smaller fish.”

At Fishermen’s Village on Deer Lake in Otter Tail County, resort owner Dave Thompson said he’s had only one customer complain about having to release a fish inside the protected slot.

“I told him I think it’s a positive change overall,” Thompson said. “People are able to take more fish home, but just have to release a few fish in the middle.”

Thompson said he’s not seeing many of his customers actually keep 10 fish.

“Very few take their limit,” he said. “Most just want to take a few fish home.”

The other two zones are a bit more restrictive.

In the northeast zone, some large fish already exist thanks to lower fishing pressure. Here, anglers are able to keep two pike, with a protected slot of 30 to 40 inches. Only one fish over 40 inches is allowed, and spearers may only take one fish over 26 inches.

Parsons said the goal is not to create a top-heavy, trophy fishery, but to maintain the quality fisheries that exist in many lakes in this region.

In the south zone, the regulation is intended to increase pike abundance and improve the size of fish harvested. Anglers may keep two fish, with a minimum size limit of 24 inches.

“In the first year of anything new, there are questions,” Parsons said. “People want to make sure they’re doing the right thing.”

Attempts to find out how the new rules were being enforced by conservation officers were not answered as of press time, but typically, Minnesota DNR officers take an educational approach in the first year of a major rule change.
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I still think its STOOPID!!!!!!!! each lake is different and quite frankly how many people are really gonna keep that many snot rockets unless you like to pickle pike!!!  :pouty: :pouty:
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We Minnesotan fishermen are a tough lot to please.

On one hand we want simple regulations state-wide so there is no confusion.  But when the game fish population is out of whack on our favorite fishery, we want the DNR to step in with tailored management strategies.

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I don't. Too confusing. I prefer Mother Nature sort things out.
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Don't like it.  Very confusing.  Not many people will keep 10 snot rockets.
Anything that is free is worth saving up for.

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Its actually quite simple. Ya I agree lots of nortens we've caught that we usually keep have to be released, so be it. Like Glenn mentioned every lake IS different,  ours has a lack of little guys but lots of bigger ones... Keep the ruler handy. He's just miffed for harpooning reasons.. :mooning:

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What if Boar wrote the laws?  :scratch:   :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

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What if Boar wrote the laws?  :scratch:   :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

might have some common sense if he did....
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Ture, btu ya wuldo half trolbue reedin' 'em...... :rotflmao:

Just funnin' ya Boar-ski. Glenn said ta do it.

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Do your part to keep the pike population under control. Always take your full limit. If you don't want to clean or eat them, give them to bear baiters or feed them to the cats.  :fishing: :Fish: :fishing: :Fish: :fishing:

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Isn't that wanton waste, a violation?   

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That's just plain foolish. Keep taking fish you don't want?  That's an unethical sportsman tactic.

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Yes, but lets say for the sake of argument that you think your lake has too many hammer handles and you and your neighbors feel it is the best interest of the lake ecology to take as many out as legally possible.  You may disagree with the ethics of this sceanrio, but is this plausible scenario legal?

Here is what the regulations say.

"If you catch a fish and you don't intend to use it for anything, you must return it immediately back into the water alive. You cannot purposely waste a fish by leaving it, or any usable portion of it, on the ice, on the bank, or by intentionally killing it and returning it back into the water."

The first part of kind of vague.  It seems you could use a fish for anything.  I don't know what you'd do with a fish besides eat it, but in a pinch I suppose you claim you were going to fertilize your garden with them.

It would be fine if they simply said you can't waste a fish, but they went on to be very specific - waste by leaving it on the ice, bank, or water.

The DNR seems to be fine with you taking fish you don't intend to eat as long as your don't leave them on the lake or shore (and don't exceed your limits).







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97A.031 WANTON WASTE.
Unless expressly allowed, a person may not wantonly waste or destroy a usable part of a protected wild animal.

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97A.031 WANTON WASTE.
Unless expressly allowed, a person may not wantonly waste or destroy a usable part of a protected wild animal.
i've seen people clean fish that should of been fined for that!!!!!!!!! :confused: :pouty: :pouty: :doah: UFFDA!!!!!!!
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