Price of pulp

[Mr Harry]

  Was wondering what the price of pulp is now for aspen.  Is there a market for ash or cedar?  What do you think the future holds for this market?

[jigglestick]

well mr harry, I am selling my pulp trailer.
I have had enough.
the market like every other market has been so f***ed up by the big producers overbidding the stumpage and partly this is the mills faults as well, for backing them at the auction to bid high as they needed to go to get the stumpage.
then when the bottom falls out of the end product market, guess what!

now we have a bunch of contract loggers holding a contract to log stands of timber that they can not possibly recover their stumpage costs, let alone the cost of producing wood delivered to the mills.
they end up cutting their losses by going delinquent on their contract and loosing their substantial downpayment towards the stumpage.

the trickle down effect of this is HUGE.
but the big producers and mills only see with blinders.
they look to their proffits and nobody else.
if you were fortunate enough to not have been stung by having your timber cut and then not have been able to get paid, then count yourself as one of the lucky ones.

there are still mills taking timber, but the ones that are now have the producers right where they want them. this is when they will prosper, being able to control the incoming timber costs.
the producers are pretty much at their mercy.

keep in mind to that your land has a value besides timber value.
recreational lands are going for a nice price, and the joy of having a nice stand of timber to hunt in and walk through have a value of it's own.

if you were looking to cash in on some stumpage sale off your property, you can check around with some of the boise loggers. they are still taking wood, off and on, but in my oppinion, if you do not need to, I would wait it out.

things are bound to get better.

I can get you the number of a guy from northhome who cuts for boise if you feel the need.

a ray of hope? sure, those who heat with fire wood, are seeing the market for that loosen up now that potlatch is no longer gobling up all the ash, maple and birch that comes along with a sale.

good luck!

[Mr Harry]

  I have been told that we have up to ten years before the aspen will start dying, so we have time to wait, and maybe we won't sell any, just keep our trees to ourselves....time will tell.