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Offline Outdoors Junkie

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I was surfing the internet today and ran across this great aticle I thought I would share with everyone.

Goose Calling
By T.R. Michels, Trinity Mountain Outdoors

     One of the biggest misconceptions in goose calling is that geese on the ground call to geese in the air to come down to feed. Based on his years of research Dr. Cooper says geese do not call to other geese to come down and feed. Therefore, you cannot call to geese in the air to come down and feed. This doesn?t mean that calling will not attract geese, but it is not what the calling of the geese on the ground is meant to do.

Think While You Are Calling
     When you are calling geese remember that the geese on the ground or water do not call to the geese in the air to join them. They pay little attention to the geese in the air until it looks as if the geese in the air are going to land within the space occupied by the feeding flock. When the feeding flock does call they are actually threatening the flying flock, letting them know that if they land in or near the feeding flock and its food source they will be attacked. Some hunters refer to this threatening call as the Double Cluck Call. The Double Cluck is call should be loud and aggressive, getting faster as the flying flock approaches. Meanwhile the geese in the air are performing the fast ?Here I am, where are you?? Contact Call as they prepare to land. These two calls together are what flying geese are accustomed to hearing as they approach a feeding flock. It may be that the louder, more aggravated the calling is, the more the geese in the air want to land!

     When large numbers of geese are feeding there is a lot of squabbling over the best food places. Some geese perform the threat call, some the contact call and others the feeding gabble. There are the deep sounds of the males, the higher sounds of the females, and the broken voices of the young. All these sounds occur together and make up the sound of a feeding flock of geese. If you are trying to simulate the sound of a feeding flock of geese you need to use all the sounds; the loud aggressive threat call, the softer contact call and the still softer but deeper feeding gabble. Once the geese get close you can begin using the landing call the ?fast cluck? as I call it. This is the sound of landing geese and may tell the flying flock that other geese are landing and give them a sense of security.

     When you are calling, think of both the mood and action of the goose that would be making the call, then imitate it. Remember you are not calling to the geese, but trying to simulate the sound of feeding and flying geese under specific conditions. The best way to understand geese, and goose calling, is to know what each call sounds like and what it means. The best way to do this is to find someplace where you can watch and listen to geese. Watch the action of the geese as they

call, and watch the reaction of the other geese to the calling. Many hunters listen but they don?t observe. If you don?t know what the geese are doing, or don?t understand, then you may misinterpret the call. Pay close attention to the action of the geese while they call and you can learn.

     When you are hunting geese pay close attention to the pitch and the length of the individual notes of the calls of the geese. Different species and even subspecies of geese make different sounds. If your call is too low or too high, tune it, or use a different call. While all geese may respond to the sounds of most goose calls, there are times when a particular species or subspecies may not respond to the call you are using. If the geese you are hunting use a slow quick call, and you are blowing a long, drawn out call; they may not respond. When they don?t respond, listen to the geese, and then adjust the tempo, pitch, and length of the notes of your calling to match the calling of the geese. 

Calling Sequence
     When I first see a flock I start calling slow and loud to get their attention. As they get closer I begin the contact call of geese in flight, the ?Here I am, where are you?? I call more excitedly as they get close and I use the double cluck threat call. I change my hand position on the call to imitate the sound of many different geese. At the final approach, or if the geese look like they aren?t going to land, I imitate the fast cluck of landing geese. If the geese swing away from the decoys I use the comeback, a long, drawn out pleading cluck‑aaah, cluck‑aaah. I have heard geese make this sound when coming in slowly and unalarmed. It may work as a security call. If geese come to your call keep it up and don?t get excited. If they need more coaxing get more excited by using the double cluck and the fast cluck.

     The first time I used the fast cluck I had a flock come in and swing over the decoys three times. The lead gander just wasn?t sure and finally headed back to the lake. When he got about a quarter of a mile away I decided to try the fast clucking of landing geese. It was just I like had put a hook in the corner of his mouth and reeled him. He swung the flock around and brought them right in. If you aren?t willing to try new techniques and make mistakes, you aren?t going to learn.

     On windy days I use a goose flute or megaphone model that is loud, or use a call that has a high pitch. Normal calls don?t carry upwind on windy days, and you have to blow loud and often to get the attention of the geese. I have had goose flutes echo off silos in farm country and sound like an entire flock of geese. On days when there is limited visibility (fog, clouds, rain) call every few minutes. The only way the geese can find you if they can?t see your decoys, is by the sound of your call. Foggy days can be great. You call and hear nothing, then suddenly you hear geese and they appear out of nowhere. Usually they decoy because they can?t see anything that might spook them, and the security of another flock of geese is reassuring. With ?smart? geese, or at the end of a long season when geese are ?call shy,? you may want to quit calling altogether; use a different call than everyone else is using; or call softer, less often and use less or more decoys than anyone else.

Purchasing A Goose Call
     There are too many brands of goose calls on the market to mention; most of them work. Use your own personal preference of two or three calls; don?t rely on just one call. Be competent and comfortable with them. I don?t feel there is any one call that is superior to any other. Most of the good, more expensive calls work; well made inexpensive calls also work. Not all geese sound alike and neither do the calls. I don?t use fancy cocabola or laminated wood calls. To me a call is a tool to be used and it may get abused, nothing more. I am not a call collector other than I have many calls.

     For calling Giant Canada geese I use Haydel's H-81 Honker, the MH-00 Magnum Honker and the CA-01H Cocacrylic Honker. My personal favorite is the H-81 Honker, that I tune myself and sell in the Trinity Mountain Outdoor Products catalog. For smaller species of Canada geese I use Haydel's VTH-90 Variable Tone Honker, GF-88 Goose Flute and the BF-99 "Black Foot" Short Reed Canada Goose (which I also hand tune for Giant's and sell). For Snow geese and blue geese I use Haydel's B-81 Blue & Snow Goose call, the MSG-96 Magnum Snow Goose call and the SD-97 Snow Goose Diaphragm. For White-fronted Geese (Specklebellies) I use the CS-92 Cutdown Speck, the S-81 "Specklebelly" Goose and the XLS-83 Extra Loud "Specklebelly" Goose calls.

     My best advice on learning how to call is to get an instructional tape or CD from Haydels or an Ultimate Game Calling System CD-ROM, listen to it, and practice with several calls until you are comfortable with them. All of these products are available in the Trinity Mountain Outdoor Products catalog at the book of this book.

If you are interested in more goose hunting tips, or more goose biology and behavior, click on Trinity Mountain Outdoor News and T.R.'s Hunting Tips at www.TRMichels.com. If you have questions about  geese log on to the T.R.'s Tips message board. To find out how the waterfowl migration is progressing log to www.Waterfowl.com.

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I agree that loud calls are necessary on windy days.  I use a Sean Mann Eastern Shoreman for most of the calling I do, however, I just purchased a Buck Gardner Canadian Hammer II which is a short reed call which produces lower volume and a higher pitch. 

I my experience, the Eastern Shoreman has a wide range of tone and volume, however, I will play with the short reed call also. 

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I just picked up that same short reed call.  I'm getting better with it but it's still sounding sick.  It is way harder to learn then my Big River Flute.
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General,

You are correct in your observation.  The Buck Gardner Canadian Hammer II is a little quirky, however, in my little experience, it does not need as much air as a flute does.  I basically had to relearn to call with the Gardner call, and at times it still sounds like I'm stepping on our cat.  The hardest part of the exercise is getting the call to break consistently, and metering the air necessary to make it "break" takes some learning, especially when one has not used any other call for some time like I have. 

Like all other things, one needs to be smarter than the machine we operate.

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I was just going to post a Duck & Goose Article here, and low and behold, I find one of my own articles. For those of you who don't know any article on any website on the internt or anyplace else is probably copyrighted, and you may need permission to paste or publish it from the place you took it.

You also need to stat where it came from, and probably should state that it is or may be copyrighted. Otherwise you may get int rouble over Federal Copyright Law.

I also request that my contact information be published with every article - as was done here.

So - if you have questions - fire away.

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