C'mere Deer products

[Cody Gruchow]

How many of you use this product, i thought about it but i was caught in the middle between choosing if its baiting or not? whats everyone input on this is it baiting or not, or has anyone used this product and gotten results

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[Pegg]

I think the liquid is ok to use but you can not use the powder.  The powder has some stuff in it the makes it so you can not use it per the DNR. It is the same way with a few other products.

[HD]

I have used both the liquid and the powder form.

Not during hunting season.

I was asked to field test the product.

Deer are very attracted to it.

But, I feel that it's not very cost effective because of the high end price.


My 2 pennies


Hunter

[Cody Gruchow]

so the powder is illegal during the season if your hunting over it but the liquid is ok? i dont think the cost is to bad but i dont want to break any laws using it

[Mayfly]

so the powder is illegal during the season if your hunting over it but the liquid is ok?

I've never heard of that.....???


Bait
• Liquid scents, salt, and minerals are not considered bait, unless they
contain other foods defined below as bait.
• “Bait” is grain, fruit, vegetables, nuts, hay, or other food that is capable
of attracting or enticing deer and that has been transported and placed
by a person.
• This restriction does not apply to foods resulting from normal or accepted farming, forest management, wildlife food plantings, orchard management, or similar land management
activities.
• The restriction does not apply to a person hunting on their own property,
when the person has not participated in, been involved with, or
agreed to feeding wildlife on adjacent land owned by another person.
• Hunters are not allowed to use bait or hunt in the vicinity of bait that
the hunter knows about or has reason to know about or hunt in the
vicinity where bait has been placed within the previous ten days.

[HD]

The powder product is best used on a pile of grain such as corn, or so the package says.

So, yes, you can't hunt over it used in this manner.


Hunter

[Cody Gruchow]

ok what if you put it on a rotten log and on a side of a tree like the commercial shows how is that classified

[Mayfly]

ok what if you put it on a rotten log and on a side of a tree like the commercial shows how is that classified

I guess as long as the powder is not ground apples it should be ok...right?

• Liquid scents, salt, and minerals are not considered bait, unless they
contain other foods defined below as bait.
• “Bait” is grain, fruit, vegetables, nuts, hay, or other food that is capable
of attracting or enticing deer and that has been transported and placed
by a person.

[HD]

Cody, I don't remember off hand what the ingredient list is on the package.

But if you look at the product lable, (or go on their web site) and look at the information Tim posted.
If it has anything in there that pertains food, then that would be considered "bait"
(corn, apples, grains.....)


Hunter

[Cody Gruchow]

thats what i thought, thanks hunter, so by your feild tests which one worked better the power or liquid?

[HD]

I put the powder on a corn pile.
And the liquid on a grain block.
Had camera's on both sites.


I found that liked the powder better, they acually ate the dirt under the corn when it was gone.



Hunter

[Cody Gruchow]

well at the beginning of the season last year i heard about it so i went out and bought some and put it on a log, and i put the camera up and they attacked that area for 2 days, thats how i got the cam pic of the big buck

[HD]

I just had to do it the way they wanted, then they took the results.


Which did you use?




Hunter

[labs4me]

I'm almost positive the DNR considers this stuff as bait.  It has plant roots and extracts in it, thus the consideration as bait.  You may want to put a call into the local CO and get his take.  They don't actually list all the ingredients on the jugs, but I'm sure there have been memos sent out to the COs on how they are to determine the stuff as. 

I just shy away from products like this.  Pattern your deer and provide better habitat and your success will show.  This is just an attempt to 'cheapen up' the taking of deer.  Dump out the product and wait till they find it and then shoot one... it has nothing to do with learning your quarry or their habits and patterning a deer and then harvesting it.

Good Luck!

Ken

[Super Star!]

I'm almost positive the DNR considers this stuff as bait.  It has plant roots and extracts in it, thus the consideration as bait.  You may want to put a call into the local CO and get his take.  They don't actually list all the ingredients on the jugs, but I'm sure there have been memos sent out to the COs on how they are to determine the stuff as. 

I just shy away from products like this.  Pattern your deer and provide better habitat and your success will show.  This is just an attempt to 'cheapen up' the taking of deer.  Dump out the product and wait till they find it and then shoot one... it has nothing to do with learning your quarry or their habits and patterning a deer and then harvesting it.

Good Luck!

Ken

well said

[Cody Gruchow]

lol i was just wondering, i used the powder but i wasnt hunting the area just more of a photo oppurtunity, i do pattern my deer, i know exactly were they bed were they feed for both summer winter and fall.

[HD]

I agree with that statement.


Hunter

  You may want to put a call into the local CO and get his take.  They don't actually list all the ingredients on the jugs, but I'm sure there have been memos sent out to the COs on how they are to determine the stuff as. 

[bowhunter73]

 

I just shy away from products like this.  Pattern your deer and provide better habitat and your success will show.  This is just an attempt to 'cheapen up' the taking of deer.  Dump out the product and wait till they find it and then shoot one... it has nothing to do with learning your quarry or their habits and patterning a deer and then harvesting it.

Good Luck!

Ken

well said

 It is not always about shooting the deer over what ever it is you put out there. I for one feed the deer more during hunting season. For one reason to help keep the deer on my land for a longer, part of the day and more often. Not so, I can shoot them because I do not hunt near the feed. I do it to help the young deer from being shot by my (kill anything) neighbors If it has antlers they shoot it. And that does not help my QDM goals.

 They hunt there way and I hunt mine both legal as far as I know. What they do does not get me mad. But I just do what I do to help are deer and my hunting land.

[Cody Gruchow]

thank you bowhunter, yes i was curious about hunting by it, but mainly to draw some of these deer out of the cover