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Offline nontypicalhunter

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7:00 am. yesterday morning I was standing on my deck, cup of coffee and a smoke. I look off across my little field to the frozen creek and see an animal running down the ice. I think hmmmm that's odd looking. It's dark brown, runs just like a weasle/mink, has a tail that looks to be about a foot and a half long and bushy. I stand there for about 10 minutes watching this animal run around out there (about 80 yards away) and when it ran past a bush I realized it stood not quite knee high to me at it's back. I'm 5'8". Needless to say, the door damn near came off the hinges when I blasted into the house to get the wife out there for a second opinion. She came out and watched this "creature" for another 10 minutes with me and she says "Holy s**t, that's a ********, isn't it?" I told her there was no doubt in my mind what it was. Being "johnny on the spot" the camera was sitting right inside the door and I didn't even grab it. I have plenty of trail cams out right now with one over a fawn carcass. Tomorrow night I will be making the rounds checking the cameras and praying for a photo of this animal. So, what do you think we saw out there? I know the DNR says, what I am positive I watched out there, doesn't exsist here anymore.

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My brother in law was farming in North Dakota 10 years ago and had a wolverine right next to his tractor.  I know the old retired Big game biologist in ND was asking him about wolverines in ND and he said on two different ariel deer surveys he had seen them.   So thats my guess.

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Well I would have said river otter without knowing exactly where you were standing - except for the bushy tail.
The only other animal that size, that moves like a weasel/otter, with a bushy tail would be a wolverine. So where were you standing? Where is home? I guess it could have been a wolverine. Interesting that both you and your wife came to the same conclusion because I think most people wouldn't have a clue.
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first....some clarification.....what were you smoking.....
2ndly......aprils fools by chance.....
3rd.....what did you SEE
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If it was a wolverine you are a lucky man. I just watched a documentary on wolverines and man are they rare! They are even rare where they have the largest populations. I guess that they are just hard to see, sneaky little suckers but incredible animals!! A buddy had had a couple spottings on his land in near Sandstone. They do exist and are here but in small numbers which makes it that much more harder to see them or to even know they exist here.

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From the DNR:

Wolverine

Wolverines (Gulo gulo) have large feet and long claws, and look like small bears. In fact, because of its strong odor and bearlike appearance, American Indians once called the wolverine "skunk bear."

In North America, wolverines range throughout the forests and tundra of Canada and Alaska. At one time wolverines inhabited Minnesota's wilderness, but we don't know how many lived there. Wolverines are hard to find because they roam very large, remote territories ranging up to 566 square miles. Perhaps they were never more common in Minnesota than they are today. The last record of this species in Minnesota was a specimen taken in 1899 in Itasca County.

The wolverine is a good tree climber and eats just about anything, from cranberries to carrion. Gulo is Latin for glutton: Like other weasel family members, the wolverine has a big appetite. It protects its food stores by marking the food with a musk odor to keep away other carnivores.

Although not much bigger than a medium-size dog, the wolverine is ferocious. Its natural enemy is the wolf.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/young_naturalists/weasels/index.html

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I would say it was a Fisher. We have a family of Fisher's up north where I hunt and your description is pretty close to that.
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this also from the minn dnr
Q. When was a wolverine last sighted in the wild in Minnesota?
Joyce and Walt Johnson
Big Lake

A. The last validated report of a wild wolverine in Minnesota was around 1920, according to DNR furbearer specialist Conrad Christianson. There have been a couple of sightings since then of animals that escaped from a zoo or game farm. To learn more, see "The Slinky, Stinky Weasel Family" in the May-June 2003 Minnesota Conservation Volunteer.
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Swany is probably right - bushy tail. I would still like to know where this happened?
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I agree, the Fisher's I've seen fit your description alsmot to a T. However, it could have been a large Pine Marten, I highly doubt it especially that size. I'm going with Fisher though. :coffee:  I have seen a wolverine out in the wild one time and it was slower moving and the colors didn't match those you were describing. It was also a little stout and slower moving.
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Latin Name Gulo gulo 
Conservation Status Vulnerable
Location  Canada, NW USA, N Europe, N Asia & E Asia
Colour Brown
Length 65 - 105 cms (26 - 41 inches)
Tail  17 - 26 cms (6.5 - 10 inches) ........please take note of this item and the one described in original post...
Weight 8 - 14 Kgs (18 - 31 lbs)
Life Expectancy  7 - 12 Yrs
 
okay im off the furry critter issue sighting
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Fisher

The fisher (Martes pennanti) is a medium-sized mammal native to North America. It is a member of the Mustelid family, commonly referred to as the weasel family. The fisher is closely related to but larger than the American Marten (Martes americana). The fisher is a forest-dwelling creature whose range covers much of the boreal forest in Canada to the northern fringes of the United States.[2] Names derived from aboriginal languages include pekan, pequam, and wejack. It is also sometimes erroneously referred to as the fisher cat.

Males and females are similar in appearance but the males are larger in size. Males are between 90 to 120 centimetres (35–47 in) in length and weigh between 3.5 to 5 kilograms (8–11 lb). Females measure 75 to 95 centimetres (30–37 in) and weigh between 2 to 2.5 kilograms (4–6 lb).[3] The fur of the fisher varies seasonally, being denser and glossier in the winter. During the summer the colors become more mottled as the fur goes through a molting cycle. Fishers prefer to hunt in full forest. While they are agile climbers most of their time is spent on the forest floor. They also prefer to forage where there is a lot of fallen dead wood on the forest floor. Fishers are omnivorous and will feed on a wide variety of small animals and occasionally fruits and mushrooms. They show a preference for the snowshoe hare and are one of the few predators able to hunt porcupine.[4] Despite their name, fishers seldom eat fish

Have included some fisher photos that I found online.

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Wolverine

Looking like as if a weasel has grown into a small bear, the wolverine is not much larger than say a Cocker Spaniel or a Beagle – but that can be deceptive. Wolverines are highly territorial and have the muscular strength to defend it. In fact, although weighing just about 13 kg, it is said that the wolverine has the ability of defending its food from wolf packs, cougars, and grizzly bears. They are thought to be the strongest animal amongst mammals, relative to their size. Given below are some more fascinating facts about the wolverine.

Although the wolverine may look like a small sized bear, it actually is the largest species of the weasel family. Its fur is brownish-black in color with light brown strips along the sides. It is dense and long, and resists water, which is what helps the wolverine tolerate the cold and frost of the environment it inhabits.

Some of the other physical features of the wolverine include a stocky build, with powerful limbs, a large head, a short tail and small ears. Its feet are equipped with pads, which enable it to traverse through heavy snow, and it also has large claws.

Basically solitary, the wolverine requires a lot of space to roam, and have been known to journey 24 kilometers, or 15 miles, a day looking for food. As a matter of fact, some animals have been tracked over the snow for 60-80 kilometers.

They pursue caribou herds when they migrate, feeding off the carcasses that bears and wolves leave behind, using their strong jaws to crush the bones. Because of their requirement for large ranges of habitat, wolverines can be found in the remote regions of the tundra, taiga, and boreal forests in the northern parts of North America, Asia, and Europe. In fact, they have a penchant for areas that are uninhabited by humans.

Similar to other weasels, the wolverine by nature is curious, daring, and tough. It is an omnivorous animal, feeding on a wide variety of food. In the summer, it will eat berries, edible roots, and various plants, although that is only a small part of its diet. Being tenacious predators, they will travel great distances to get its main food, meat.

While smaller sized prey, like rodents and rabbits, is easy fare for the wolverine, if given the opportunity it will set upon animals that are much larger in size, like deer and caribou, if they are injured or weak. And as has been mentioned above, they are also opportunistic feeders that eat animals which have been killed by other predatory animals, like caribou, deer, and elk. In fact, eating carrion helps them to survive the winter, when food can be scarce. They even dig into the snow to find and eat hibernating animals.

The wolverine is basically a terrestrial animal, however they are very good at climbing trees and are also powerful swimmers. They have great stamina and use a fast lope to travel great distances without breaking for rest.

Although mainly nocturnal animals, if the wolverine finds itself in regions of extended darkness or daylight, it will change to a pattern of being awake for 4 hours and sleeping for 4 hours. Like the bear, the wolverine has poor eyesight, although its hearing and sense of smell are very good.

Male wolverines use their scent glands to mark out their territory, sometimes even marking their caches of food. They are thought to be polygamous and hence share their territory with a number of females. Although wolverines are solitary animals, members of the family do play with each other.

Female wolverines dig underground in order to give birth to their young, which usually are 2 to 3 at a time, either in early spring or late winter. Sometimes the young will live with their mother until they are two years of age, when they mature enough to reproduce themselves.

In the past, wolverines were hunted by trappers in North America for their beautiful coat, which was used as a lining for parkas. However, this is not as common these days, with the wolverine being given protective status in several regions.

Have included a few wolverine photos that I found online.

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I deer hunt by Upper Red Lake and a couple years ago I am pretty sure I saw a wolverine walk by while I was in a stand.  It seemed larger than a fisher.  It was growling as it went by. 

 :scratch:

I didn't have a camera with.  You can never be sure, but from what I have seen of wolverines vs fishers, I am leaning towards it being a wolverine.  We are not too far south of Canada way up there and wolverines are known to be up there in Canada. eh?
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Ill go with a Badger... since it hasnt been guessed yet!   :happy1:

-- doesnt really fit the description, but hey, ill give it a shot!

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Ill go with a Badger... since it hasnt been guessed yet!   :happy1:

-- doesnt really fit the description, but hey, ill give it a shot!

Well I guess I'll go with a komodo dragon because that hasn't been guessed yet either.
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Ill go with a Badger... since it hasnt been guessed yet!   :happy1:

-- doesnt really fit the description, but hey, ill give it a shot!

We I guess I'll go with a komodo dragon because that hasn't been guessed yet either.

LOL  :Clap:

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 :rotflmao:  :rotflmao:

FUNNY DOUG!  I think Komodo dragon is a good guess.... but their tail is a little longer than what was explained. DUHHHH!
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I'll guess a..... a.... a... beavecoon! (You would have to watch icarly to know what I'm talking about)  :rotflmao:
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I'll guess a..... a.... a... beavecoon! (You would have to watch icarly to know what I'm talking about)  :rotflmao:

You watch icarly??

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I think he does! :rotflmao:

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I think he does! :rotflmao:

randy

That would sure be a bad joke if he was kidding.... Its a lose-lose at this point!    :cheerleader:

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I'll guess a..... a.... a... beavecoon! (You would have to watch icarly to know what I'm talking about)  :rotflmao:


Funny you say that. Christmas past here we were all sitting opening gifts and my 9 year old daughter and 11 year old son proceed to tell my inlaws that there are "beavcoons" running all over out here, they HAVE seen them! I asked the same thing, what the heck is a beavcoon? Of course I was informed when I had to sit down with them and watch Icarly exactly what a "beavcoon" was.


I also thought it was a fisher, but this animal had some size to it compared to a fisher. I am 100% convinced, as is my wife, that it was a wolverine. You have no clue how bad I was I would have been thinking and grabbed the dang camera. I will be heading out tonight or in the morning to fetch my camers and I hope maybe I got lucky and have it on film.

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I'll guess a..... a.... a... beavecoon! (You would have to watch icarly to know what I'm talking about)  :rotflmao:

You watch icarly??

 :rotflmao: My son told me to guess that...  :rotflmao: ....No,....I don't...  ;D

Besides....what day is it? DA !!!!
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I also thought it was a fisher, but this animal had some size to it compared to a fisher. I am 100% convinced, as is my wife, that it was a wolverine. You have no clue how bad I was I would have been thinking and grabbed the dang camera. I will be heading out tonight or in the morning to fetch my camers and I hope maybe I got lucky and have it on film.

That would be very cool!  :happy1:

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Beavecoon....

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i saw one last deer season i did not now what it was it looked like a cat / pharit it came out of a slue was black with brown patches

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MNO must watch it too!


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MNO must watch it too!


randy

A couple times... not enough to know what a beavecoon was though. I have an almost 6 year old daughter who like to try and watch that show.

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I can say I never heard of it or the show...

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