Is the safety on?

[Pulleye16]

Am I the only one confused by this? Mossberg MVP LC. Take a look at the photos and let me know which one you think the safety is ON vs OFF.  It might just be me but piss pour design.

[Steve-o]

Goodness knows that I'm no expert, but I always thought red=fire.

But on every lever/switch safety I have, you push the safety forward to fire.

That one does look confusing.

[LPS]

I would say when on red it is ready to fire.  So top pic no fire.  Bottom when on red means ready to fire. And like Steve said you usually move forward to fire.

[mike89]

agreeing with the boys... 

[Bobberineyes]

I'd hafta agree with red, mossberg has always been a little different with there safety's,  even on the shotguns being on top.

[roony]

red ur dead

[Steve-o]

Here is what Mossberg sez in their user manual...

To put the safety in the “ON” (SAFE) position, move the safety lever fully rearward.
The safety lever will now cover the red dot. The red dot is a training aid used to show
the direction of the “ON” (SAFE) position and should not be used as an indicator that
the safety is “ON” or “OFF” (Fig. 1 & 2).

So similar to the push button on my shotgun safety, when you push it, you can see red on the other side of the button, which means it is ready to fire.

I guess operators need to be trained to use the training aid.

[Boar]

Red is always fire

[Pulleye16]

So I’m not completely crazy…

Top pic is actually OFF safety and ready to fire
Bottom pic is safety is ON.

Drives me nuts. I usually have to dry fire it confirm as I don’t shoot this gun often. I think Mossbergs thinking is when it’s on the RED, it supposed to be covering it, then when you slide it forward (off red) you now expose the RED so it armed. Problem is, you can always see the RED.

Love the gun, but confuses my simple mind.

[glenn57]

havent bought a gun in years......when i have i always look where and how the saftety works.....personally i wouldnt buy that gun!!!!!

[Steve-o]

I've read positive reviews on Mossberg rifles and their pricepoint is a good entry level for long range precision shooting.

If Remington wants to get back in the game, there is a lot more competiton now compared to when they started to run the company into the ground.

[Leech~~]

Well all the years I was  a DNR gun safety instructor. "Red=FIRE" 😳

[Steve-o]

I don't disagree.  Poor design as you can see the red dot in both positions.  But now at least we know Mossberg's rationale.

If i otherwise liked the rifle, it wouldn't be a deal breaker.

[LPS]

Mossbergs make some very affordable guns without the fancy issues.  Great low priced and good quality guns. 

[HD]

Push forward... fire

[deadeye]

File off the red dot and put nail polish on the forward position.

[Pulleye16]

File off the red dot and put nail polish on the forward position.

Funny, I was thinking of doing something like that.

[Steve-o]

Here is another example of pretty much the same safety design.

Ourdoor Life published this article back in 2015.  :  Why I Don’t Use the Safety on My Rifles

I reckon most of us would disagree with his assertion, but the article contained this picture of a different rifle that seems to have the same safety configuration.  Forward = Fire, except in this rifle, the mechanical safety does a better job of covering the Red Dot = Hot indicator when the safety is ON.  Does anyone have a guess as to who make this rifle?



I do prefer when the mark the on and off positions with S and F whenever possible - like on this Remington 700.