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Offline Fawkinnae

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Hey Griz what do you get for a weasel pelt?
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Not much. Try to sell them to taxi's, get a bit more that way. Last yr think some got about 6-7 bucks ave. With the fur market crash I'm guessing they may be down somewhat but I wouldn't expect it to be as much. Reason being from what I understand most weasel go to the novelty trade. Examples would be in dream catchers, along with hooped beaver hangings, indian head dress, etc. Not much for garments or trim.
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Not much. Try to sell them to taxi's, get a bit more that way. Last yr think some got about 6-7 bucks ave. With the fur market crash I'm guessing they may be down somewhat but I wouldn't expect it to be as much. Reason being from what I understand most weasel go to the novelty trade. Examples would be in dream catchers, along with hooped beaver hangings, indian head dress, etc. Not much for garments or trim.

I thought I saw something on tv that weasels are purchased for the hats/trim on the hats that the motionless soldiers out in front of buckingham palace wear?

Griz, is that true?
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Not sure, could be.
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Yesterday my run was a pleasant surprise. I'd expected to shovel out everyone of my boxes (due to high winds and light fluffy snow we've had as of late)but not a single one did I have to shovel out. Instead all the shoveling was to get my truck unstuck and I was in the middle of the road. Those north/south roads in the open were just brutal. Here's my buddy doing just that.


I'd actually expected to catch a couple weasel but that was it due to the cold as they don't like to move in it anymore than we do. Turns out I had my best run with 11, all were males cept one female.


Seems to me like moving the boxes around during the cold may help. I've been doing alot of that lately and the new locations have been out producing 75% to 7% catch ratio. Big difference in percentage.
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looks like you had a good day of trapping!
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That looks like a ton of fun! Can you give me a play by play on how you do this? From the sounds of it you don't just set the trap and come back later...
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 I'll give it a whirl.

 I'll start out with my boxes. I have been using rat traps but long springs can also be used but the box must be a bit wider to accomodate for the width of the trap. With the rat traps it lets you go 3 days between checks. With a long spring you are required by law to check them everyday.

I build them out of 1 x 4's and 3/8th plywood for the sides. You can use scrap lumber to save some money. The minimun size for inside dimentions would be 10" long x 3 1/2" wide x 5" high. You can make them bigger if you want but they must be at least that big to allow the trap to function properly and allow for easy baiting.

The front has a 2" hole with the bottom being 3" high. You can use a hole down to 1 1/2" but may have difficulty getting a frozen weasel out.


If you don't have a hole saw you could use a jig saw to cut a hole like this.

I may build some more boxes like this as a frozen weasel is easily removed. I would go with a hole that is only 1 3/4 wide and 3 inches up to the bottom.

The back I notched out the corners to allow air to flow through carying the scent of bait/lure further. Some prefer to bore another hole and cover with hardware cloth instead. They feel that it also lets the weasel feel like it's a tunnel rather than a box.


The lid is hinged just in front of the back piece as you can see from the third pic. From the fourth pic you can see I put the trap right up tight to the front and centered below the hole with the bait in the back.


For bait I have been useing liver mixed with anise oil. I have been salting it also for times when it gets really cold. Other good baits to use would be beaver, chicken and rabbit. The bait should be fresh and not tainted. I have also been useing lure but they can be caught without it. I just feel it helps me catch more especially in the colder weather.

Now for the most important aspect of trapping, no matter what your trapping is location. Also the hardest to explain so will use some pics to help. Keep in mind the number one prey for weasels are mice. Find places with lots of mice and you will find weasels.Once you find good habitat such as these places then you need to find the exact place to set up.

This location has some nice grassy cover. The culvert has open water which would make a poor place for a box, so I set up by the bush in front and have taken 3 in the last ten days here.


This spot I choose that uprooted tree for my location. There is no culvert here but the uprooted tree is a gate way for the weasel to get at an easy mouse. It also gives protection to my box from heavy amounts of snow. I have not got one here yet as my trap always has got a mouse or shrew. Most of them have been ate by a weasel after they have been caught.


This spot I shoveled down to the culvert an placed my box inside the culvert. That is what I like to do but not all habitat has a culvert. The reason I like culverts is
1. They protect my box from heavy amounts of snow.
2. They act as a funnel for weasel to get to the other side of the road rather than cross the road.
3. You are under the snow. Alot of a weasels time is spent under the snow chasing mice. In a culvert you are at the bottom. Can't run on snow above your box or beneath it.
4. It also enables me to locate tracks that would have otherwise been covered up by blowing snow
5. The only downfall to culverts is sometimes they blow shut and you need to shovel them out(extra work) But the trap still works as the weasel know the culvert is their and tunnel through snow to use them. I have made numeruos catches when I had to shovel out the culvert only to find a weasel in my trap. Sometimes up to 4 feet of snow over them. I believe they were under the snow and were going to use the culvert to get to the other side.
I only got one here but think I may have gotton more had I left it in place more than a few days.


This spot is another culvert I chose for a location. This one I usually need to shovel about a foot of snow to check. Have taken 4 at this location.


Here is another culvert location. This one requires little shoveling as the pic shows the wing on the plow goes right on top of and beyond the end of culvert. I have taken 7 here and my box is still there as the swamp is so big new weasel keep filling the vacant territory and over trapping is unlikely.

One important factor in trapping weasels is setting on sign. Locate some tracks and set as close to them as you can. You can't catch ghost weasels and the tracks are proof they are there. I have set up what I think are likely looking locations and caught weasels but not as many.

There are other sets such as a rat trap on a lath or nailed to a sapling with a baited trigger about 1 foot off the ground or a piece of 1 1/2 pvc pipe about 16" long wired to a tree with bait in the bottom that produce well I've heard in areas. I havn't yet tried them so am just speaking on what I have done. They would have the advantage of being able to handle heavier snows but also would require finding location where they would be on top of the snow. For my area there are plenty of culverts and feel a box in them is best. I am planning on trying the other methods out in certain situations in the near future.

With the cold we had last week it seemed moving to new locations has helped but seem to only catch one. Maybe that will change with warmer weather.

Hope this helps, If you have any ?'s just ask.
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Nice work Griz, thanks for all the pics and info.
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I think I'll have to build me some of them....
Looks like fun!


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That is what makes it so great. It's relatively simple, they aren't difficult to trap and are plentiful throughout most of the state. Getting set up to run a small line is not very expensive. Honestly I have more fun trapping the little ghosts than I do the more valuable critters.

As a side note if you gets started don't be surprised or upset if you see tracks just run by the box without paying any attention. It's like they got something in mind already an just run by. Next trip they will come by see the hole and smell the bait an just jump right in. I have had places where I found one had run by for over a week. I turned the box 90 degrees an whammo next trip had them.
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Nice work Griz, thanks for all the pics and info.

Well a picture says a thousand words an I type pretty slow with both fingers.
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Well a picture says a thousand words an I type pretty slow with both fingers.

so then you type like my dad!!!   :rotflmao:  When he writes an e-mail, he will ask my mom to write it, or cme over and ask me to write it for him.  He will literally stand behind and say what needs to be written. 

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Nope I type it myself or as my daughter says "hammer on the keyboard". It would be faster though to just have her do it as she can type as fast as I can talk.
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Makes more sense now, Thanks! For some reason I gathered that you would set the traps and call them in or something.... Not sure where I got that from... :bonk:
I've honestly never seen a weasel before. I've got family land about 30 miles NW of bainerd. Do you think I'd find them there? What kind of licenses do I need? Thanks.
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Hell Griz, you can type anyway you want...  you got seniority
here :rotflmao:
i type 1 finger and dont care about CAPS either ;D

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Makes more sense now, Thanks! For some reason I gathered that you would set the traps and call them in or something.... Not sure where I got that from... :bonk:
I've honestly never seen a weasel before. I've got family land about 30 miles NW of bainerd. Do you think I'd find them there? What kind of licenses do I need? Thanks.

Yes they should be near Brainard. All you need is a trappers lic.
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All this weasel news got me thinking. Great information and photos by the way Griz.

Anyway about 10 years ago at a garage sale I bought this old hunting magazine - The True Hunting Yearbook (1956) and it's got a story about weasels in it. I scanned the cover and the article. It's written by George Heinold. Check out the ads and the style of the magazine and the art - it really takes me back to when I was a kid. I hope that the article is readable.

Here's the cover.

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Article to follow shortly-technical difficulties.   :whistling:

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I think if you click on the attachment, and open with Windows Pictures & Fax viewer, you will be able to enlarge it enough to read.  I'm not 110% satisfied with this method, so I'll keep working on it.   ;)
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Let's try it this time: (if you're running Windows XP-you can enlarge to read the text-bottom right of your screen) Otherwise PM me, and I'll e-mail it to you.  :happy1:













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Woody thanks. Griz I was hoping to complement all the great stuff you have posted here. Hope I didn't muck things up in the process.
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I have a couple of ? Griz.

Do you worry about your own scent when you place and check the traps?
Do you have to put your name on the traps?
Does anybody mess with your traps?
Have you ever caught a different critter in these traps other than weasels,mice, and voles?
Are they always dead or have you caught one that is tougher than the rest?
Do you have to skin them before you sell or do the buyers do it?
When is the season?

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Doug ya didn't mess anything up.

I don't worry about my scent any, sometimes set the traps bare handed.
Yes I put my DNR # on the trap in perm marker on the bottom.
No person has messed with my boxes yet anyways. I have found a couple spots where people followed my tracks to look,I think out of curiousity.
Just mice voles an weasels.
They have all been dead when I found them.
I think you could sell them to a buyer without skinning. I will be putting mine up on boards so I can ship to canada.
They are open all yr in MN but they only have fur value when white.
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Had the opportunity to run the line with Griz today. Very educational. Here are a few pics from the day!














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looks like it was a very fun time!
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That looks like fun I bet yah learned a bit.  Hey Griz I'm from North of Atwater.  If you ever have room I'd love to tag along.
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That looks like fun I bet yah learned a bit.  Hey Griz I'm from North of Atwater.  If you ever have room I'd love to tag along.

I did. I can see where it would be addicting. Fun checking a trap and finding something in it. Kinda like winning the lottery or something... ;)

Looking forward to another round and a new animal.

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Tim you forgot to mention about the hawk we seen trying to get the weasel. Think the weasel got away this time.

Then about how we were following the CO who was looking at my boxes with weasel in them. Then he went an come around behind us. Got another at that spot too. That was right where the hawk comes in.

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