Vikes thread!

[Steve-o]

Yeah, the Vikes turned things around to get to .500, but does anyone REALLY think the window of opportunity is open for this team to make a deep play-off run?     I didn't think so.   

The front office has to say the right things...  "All options on the table, etc. etc. etc."  Let's hope they aren't' foolish enough to mortgage the future just to get a middling backup QB to close out this mediocre season. 

Unless, of course...  They are savvy enough to trade JJ for a bona fide QB1 under contract for the next couple of years.   

But that pipe dream ain't happening. 

[LPS]

I did think they were on a roll and could have made a nice run.  Everyone seems to have gelled greatly the last few weeks.   BUT they may now just seriously look for the QB of the future.  Who is another 35 mill a year QB we could get.  Or isn't that enough money anymore?

[Steve-o]

Cousins wasn't mobile to begin with.  If he comes back next year - with the 'hometown' discount because of the bad wheel and no other team willing to give him top dollar - maybe he could still be an effective pocket passer.  He always has been the guy that wants to prove his critics wrong.

[LPS]

His accuracy is his thing.  He is pretty darn accurate.

[Gunner55]

I did think they were on a roll and could have made a nice run.  Everyone seems to have gelled greatly the last few weeks.   BUT they may now just seriously look for the QB of the future.  Who is another 35 mill a year QB we could get.  Or isn't that enough money anymore?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/08/11/quarterbacks-highest-paid-2023-salary-rankings/70510339007/ 

[LPS]

I see that the Falcons are favored by 4.5 - 5 pts.  Man the Rams have really fallen.  GB is favored over them by 3

[Gunner55]

Any trades need to be completed by 3:00 today. One prospect, McCoy, is a FA however. A lot of opinions out there about what should/will happen & some even kind of make sense. https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/10/30/23939805/report-vikings-may-not-be-active-before-trade-deadline  They have their 1st practice of the week tomorrow, so they will have to decide who is the guy, at least for this week, by then.

[KEN W]

I don't think they will make a trade. Maybe sign a QB sitting on his couch at hoem.

[glenn57]

there sure is alot of blabberin about Winston  not sure about him??? his passing isnt all that good but he can run with the ball another threat. he's on the bench for a reason i guess!!!!

[LPS]

Other than the sexual assault and stealing issues he may not be a bad guy.

[Gunner55]

Other than the sexual assault and stealing issues he may not be a bad guy.

[FishThumper]

Current reports by various so called experts are saying the Vikings are not likely to do anything at QB before the trade deadline at 3:00 today. They also say that Hunter is not likely going anywhere.

[Steve-o]

Aren't blockbuster trades at the NFL pretty rare?   

It ain't the same as baseball where by the trade deadline, teams generally know if they should be buyers or sellers - and they are more apt to trade talent now for prospects down the road.  That really doesn't exist in the NFL.

[FishThumper]

Well the experts were wrong. They just made a trade for Josh Dobbs. Oh Yay !!! He was just benched is favor of a 5th round rookie QB

[FishThumper]

If nothing else he's a smart guy.
" An actual rocket scientist, Dobbs has had several internships with NASA. He earned a degree in aerospace engineering at Tennessee while also going 3-0 in bowl games as the Volunteers' quarterback. "

[glenn57]

i seen also they just sent Cleveland to the Jags.......Risner must be doing pretty good!!!

[Steve-o]

The Cardinals are trading Dobbs and a 2024 seventh-round pick to the Vikings in exchange for a 2024 sixth-rounder.

Dobbs being traded -- for the second time this year.  ...  The Cardinals gave up a fifth-round pick for Dobbs earlier this season but are getting a sixth in return eight games and little more than two months later.

So the Vikes are trading next to nothing to get another warm body in the QB room.   

I'm glad they didn't break the bank to go searching for something that isn't there.   

[Steve-o]

Vikings are now sending guard Ezra Cleveland to the Jacksonville Jaguars in exchange for a Day 3 pick in the 2023 NFL Draft.  A “Day 3” pick, which could be anything between the fourth and the seventh round.

Cleveland was the Vikings’ second-round pick in the 2020 NFL Draft, and until his recent foot injury had started 43 consecutive games for the Vikings at left guard. He missed the last two games with in-season free agent signing Dalton Risner stepping into his left guard spot.

So the Vikes are getting next to nothing (or maybe a little something more) for a second rounder who gave them 2+ years of service as a starter. 

But things change.  If Cleveland wasn't going to be part of the go-forward plan, better to get something for him rather than nothing - especially if he we only going to be a back-up the rest of the way.

[Gunner55]

A good share of Risner's deal was signing bonus, so Cleveland's salary for the season is more than double Risner's but Risner is about $1 million more of a cap hit. I don't know how or if that even played into it, but both are UFAs after this season.

[KEN W]

Lost in the chaos caused by the Vikings trading for quarterback Josh Dobbs and sending left guard Ezra Cleveland to Jacksonville on Tuesday was a little line from Ian Rapoport on NFL Network when he uttered the words "Justin Jefferson coming back sooner rather than later."

Could be for the New Orleans game following this Sunday's game

[Steve-o]

Good for the team.  Good for Jefferson.

I admit to wearing my MN "Defeatist" Sport Fan hat right now, but I don't see a clear path towards signing JJ next year.

I don't think he'll go into next season without a long term deal, i.e. holdout.  And if that it his play, will JJ demand a trade if the Vikes can't come to an agreement?

So recovering quickly and playing well is good for JJ's 'brand' and will help him in his quest to reset the $$$ bar for WR1 contracts.

[LPS]

I have been watching Jaren Hall highlights.  Here are his stats from 2022:  66% completions, 3171 yards passing, 31 TDs in the air, 6 int, 346 yards rushing, 3 rushing TDs.  I think he will fit right in with this group.  Perfect time for him too when things are looking good.

[Gunner55]

  Is there such a thing as a nerd? https://kdvr.com/sports/sports-illustrated/7f13099d/kirk-cousins-did-something-pretty-sweet-for-young-vikings-fans-day-after-se

[Gunner55]

  This might have something to do with why Cleveland is now in Jacksonville? https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/01/og-chris-reed-returns-to-minnesota-on-two-year-deal-with-vikings/

[LPS]

Ya they don't come much nicer than Kirk.  Class act.  Also good to see Reed coming here. 

[Steve-o]

This might have something to do with why Cleveland is now in Jacksonville? https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/01/og-chris-reed-returns-to-minnesota-on-two-year-deal-with-vikings/

How so?  That article is from 2022.  Is Reed even still on the roster?

[Gunner55]

   This 1 isn't https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/01/vikings-roster-moves-joejuan-williams-chris-reed/ NFI= Non-Football Injury.  https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/roster/_/name/min/minnesota-vikings

[Steve-o]

  This 1 isn't https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/01/vikings-roster-moves-joejuan-williams-chris-reed/ NFI= Non-Football Injury.  https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/roster/_/name/min/minnesota-vikings

"Reed was placed on the reserve/non-football injury list on Aug. 30 and seems to have recovered enough to return to practice for the Vikings. He'll provide depth on Minnesota's offensive line once he's able to suit up for games."

Maybe the NFL had that special non-football injury list all along, or maybe they invented it for they guys who didn't want to play during Covid - or maybe that was a different list.

Non-football injuries though...  could be anything from a skiing accident to maybe even a recovery program.  Either way, glad he is coming out of the woods.

[Gunner55]

  Some sort of foot injury, it says here https://www.vikings.com/news/falcons-week-9-injury-report He did participate in practice yday but it was just a walk-through.

[Gunner55]

I have been watching Jaren Hall highlights.  Here are his stats from 2022:  66% completions, 3171 yards passing, 31 TDs in the air, 6 int, 346 yards rushing, 3 rushing TDs.  I think he will fit right in with this group.  Perfect time for him too when things are looking good.

I was curious about Dobbs too, so I did some research & kind of liked what I found. This was 1 of the more interesting pcs I found.................https://www.vikings.com/news/5-things-to-know-new-qb-joshua-dobbs