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[Gunner55]

Not to mention, Sano is the only player in MLB history to reach 1,000 strkeouts faster than Gallo. If I remember right Miggy was scheduled to make $14 mil this season. Gallo is a career .200 hitter & Sano's career avg is .234. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sanomi01.shtml

[Steve-o]

Not to mention, Sano is the only player in MLB history to reach 1,000 strkeouts faster than Gallo. If I remember right Miggy was scheduled to make $14 mil this season. Gallo is a career .200 hitter & Sano's career avg is .234. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sanomi01.shtml

So the Twins add another man to the roster who has been striking out almost 44% of the time over the past 3 years, the Twins save $4M in payroll, but lose .034 in replacement player batting average.   

[Gunner55]

  He is lefthanded & they can use another lefty in the lineup. Also, a decent glove man who can play either LF or RF.

[dutchboy]

In addition to being a good outfielder the Twins need a DH. What they didn't need was another guy who makes Sano look like a contact hitter.

There will need to be a corresponding move of trading one of the outfielders to make room for Gallo to have this make any sense at all.

[Steve-o]

What they didn't need was another guy who makes Sano look like a contact hitter.

[Gunner55]

 

In addition to being a good outfielder the Twins need a DH. What they didn't need was another guy who makes Sano look like a contact hitter.

There will need to be a corresponding move of trading one of the outfielders to make room for Gallo to have this make any sense at all.

Did you miss the part about Sano being the only 1 to have 1000 SOs faster than Gallo?                                   

[dutchboy]

Nope, but given the same amount of at bats Gallo will drive in more runs than Sano. He will play better over-all defense and he can run a bit. Make no mistake, there is a bunch of swing and miss in his game but if I have to have one of them i'll take Gallo over Sano.

[Gunner55]

  It looks like I might have to agree with you, db. He has averaged 600+ plate appearances a year, so he must be able to stay pretty healthy. He walks a lot too, 90/yr on avg, so he has a lifetime OPS near .800, & he's got 2 Gold Gloves in 20 & 21(RF). https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gallojo01.shtml

[Steve-o]

Carlos Correa signs with the Giants for $350M for 13 years.

Too much money. Royce Lewis will be better when he gets on the field.

Not so fast...

Why Carlos Correa spurned Giants for Mets in free agency

In a stunning turn of events, free agent Carlos Correa is headed to the New York Mets -- and not the San Francisco Giants.

The 28-year-old shortstop agreed to terms on a 12-year, $315 million deal with New York -- a week after coming to terms with the Giants on a historic 13-year, $350 million contract.

Wait ... what happened?!

The Giants' contract with the star shortstop fell apart after the team expressed concerns during the physical examination, prompting Correa to reopen his free agency and sign in the middle of the night with the Mets.

Didn't the Mets already spend a whole bunch of money this offseason? And don't they already have a shortstop?!

Sure do. Last year, Mets owner Steve Cohen signed Francisco Lindor to a 10-year, $341 million deal after trading for the star shortstop in 2020. Correa is expected to move to third base in New York to play alongside his friend and Team Puerto Rico teammate Lindor.

[dutchboy]

The battle for New York. Cohen & the Mets vs Steinbrenner & the Yankees. Be fun to watch for the next few years.

[Steve-o]

Yeah, the Giants wanted Judge and then Correa and got neither.   

Cohen has deep pockets.  The price of baseball keeps going up.

Last year, Mets owner Steve Cohen signed Francisco Lindor to a 10-year, $341 million deal after trading for the star shortstop in 2020. Correa is expected to move to third base in New York to play alongside his friend and Team Puerto Rico teammate Lindor.

And speaking of Steve Cohen ... when Cohen bought the Mets in November 2020, there was a belief around baseball that he could upend the system with his wealth. But this exceeds the expectations of even the most hopeful Mets fan. If Correa's deal is completed, the team's estimated payroll will be around $384 million. Based on that number, the Mets would owe an additional $111 million in luxury-tax payments. Their total payroll, as of now, is expected to be just shy of $500 million. In baseball history, no team has come within $150 million of that number.

Just this offseason, the Mets are adding Correa to a list of signings that includes starters Justin Verlander, Kodai Senga and Jose Quintana along with the re-signings of outfielder Brandon Nimmo and relievers Edwin Diaz and Adam Ottavino. Add in catcher Omar Narvaez and reliever David Robertson, and the Mets' total outlay this winter is $806.1 million.

As for Correa...

Correa is only 28, so he has several good years left and we saw how good he is in the clubhouse.  And if he is playing with good players he gets along with, it ought to be a scary good team.

But... he still has to pass the Met's physical.   

[KEN W]

Now that the fat kid is gone, I wonder who db will have to throw darts at this season?  https://sports.yahoo.com/joey-gallo-twins-reportedly-agree-000346665.html  Kind of surprised that him or Ken haven't already mentioned this move.

Just got home from Red Lake for the past 3 days.....no electricity, so no computer for 3 days.

[Gunner55]

  Think I 1st read about it last Friday, 12/16.

[glenn57]

  sounds like this Correa is having issues getting a secured contract due to some old injuries there finding in his physicals!!!!!!!!!

[LPS]

Yes something about an old leg injury repair.

[Gunner55]

  https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10059641-mlb-rumors-mets-concerned-with-carlos-correas-leg-injury-amid-315m-contract#:~:text=Correa%20suffered%20the%20injury%20to%20his

[glenn57]

  ok so i follow the Twins a little bit....... but why wasnt this an issue when he signed with the Twinkies???? maybe i just missed it, dont know. 

so now.........by him snubbing his nose at the Twins........he is having troubles finding a team that will take him!!!!!  serves him right!!!

[Gunner55]

  Another pc I read said the NYM still want him, but they want to re-do the original offer. Shorter deal and/or less $?

[dutchboy]

I think when it's all said and done Correa gets like 8 years with the last 2-3 years a team option. I think the dollars stay at around $28-30 million with maybe some bonuses for games or innings played. He will be very well paid as he should be.

[Steve-o]

ok so i follow the Twins a little bit....... but why wasnt this an issue when he signed with the Twinkies????

Remember how the Twins' Correa signing caught everyone off guard?  It was a great deal for both.  The Twins never make big long-term splash deals - so no one was surprised when it was a short contract - but were applauded for going after him.  For Correa's part, he needed a team where he could play and prove his health so he could chase the long term deal he wanted. 

But you have to believe that the Twins saw the same medicals, stayed out of the long term trap, and kept it to themselves.

[dutchboy]

ok so i follow the Twins a little bit....... but why wasnt this an issue when he signed with the Twinkies????

Remember how the Twins' Correa signing caught everyone off guard?  It was a great deal for both.  The Twins never make big long-term splash deals - so no one was surprised when it was a short contract - but were applauded for going after him.  For Correa's part, he needed a team where he could play and prove his health so he could chase the long term deal he wanted. 

But you have to believe that the Twins saw the same medicals, stayed out of the long term trap, and kept it to themselves.

Except it was reported the Twins offered Correa $285 million over 10 years. I'm not buying what the Twins are peddling at this point. There was no $285 offer UNLESS they knew what the Giant offer was and that Correa would take that. When it's all said and done the Twins will have Farmer as the starter and will battle for the central title until the Baldelli bullpen implodes from overuse again in August.

[Gunner55]

Correa & Lindor are friends from playing in the WBC for PR & that plays into Correa's wanting to play for the Mets, is what I read, & he may even move to 3rd base. He'll sign a deal much like db described above IMO.

[Steve-o]

Reports: Twins 'renewed contact' with Carlos Correa's agent

The plot thickens.

The Minnesota Twins have "renewed contact" with agent Scott Boras while the New York Mets continue to negotiate a deal for star shortstop Carlos Correa.

It's unclear how the Twins feel about the [ankle injury', but Heyman says the "unresolved issues" with the Mets have led Boras "to check in with other teams," and the Twins "were one of the teams in some contact with Boras."

[dutchboy]

When you think of "Diva's" in the sports world these "insiders" should immediately pop into mind. The guys like Rosenthal, Heyman, Bowden all throw mud against the wall to see what sticks. I wouldn't be surprised if Boris wasn't paying them.

I don't see Correa coming to the Twins on anything but a 1 year or like he did last year.

[Steve-o]

When you think of "Diva's" in the sports world these "insiders" should immediately pop into mind. The guys like Rosenthal, Heyman, Bowden all throw mud against the wall to see what sticks. I wouldn't be surprised if Boris wasn't paying them.

I don't see Correa coming to the Twins on anything but a 1 year or like he did last year.

They'd prolly take 'em back for the same money as he was going to make before he opted out.  Still, there is a part of me that hopes the offer him less - if it comes down to that.  I sure as h3!! wouldn't pay him more than his old contract.

[Steve-o]

Carlos Correa agrees to third free-agent deal amid injury concerns

Correa's deal reportedly worth $150 million less than Giants' and $115 million less than Mets' offer

Correa is set to rejoin the Minnesota Twins on a six-year, $200 million contract, ESPN reported Tuesday, pending the completion of a physical.

The Twins have yet to announce the deal.

[Gunner55]

 Seen it come across the TV ~ 4 today, so it must be official , 6 yrs/$200 mil with incentives of ~ $20. 

[dutchboy]

Guess I was wrong.

Flashing back to last off season Correa / Boris were after a 300 million contract.
Last year they got 35 million of that.
Today they got another 200 million.
There also are another 70 million in extensions & options in play.
Do the math.....no matter what or how, Boris did his job.

[Steve-o]

Guess I was wrong.

Flashing back to last off season Correa / Boris were after a 300 million contract.
Last year they got 35 million of that.
Today they got another 200 million.
There also are another 70 million in extensions & options in play.
Do the math.....no matter what or how, Boris did his job.

Yup...

Carlos Correa boomerangs to Twins after Giants, Mets nix deals

So Correa instead made a deal with the Twins. He agreed to a deal that fully guarantees $200M over the same six years and adds four more years at a potential additional $70M based on plate appearances. The Twins’ front-loaded arrangement was appealing...

The Mets also were willing to fully guarantee the first six years, but that would be at $157.5M, and they proposed new conditions Correa’s camp saw as more difficult to reach, involving not just plate appearances but time in the field. While the Mets’ newly reconfigured deal might still have been called a potential $315M for 12 years, the last six years, just like with the Twins deal, would have been less than fully guaranteed.

One difference in the Twins and Mets deals is that Correa will be paid at the rate of $33.33M by the Twins in the six guaranteed years while he would have been paid $26.25M in the Mets’ offer.

[Gunner55]

  https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/why-the-twins-were-smart-to-trade-2022-al-batting-champion-luiz-arraez/ar-AA16zKLG?ocid=msedgntp&cvi